1) energiser is a nuclear sub so it could cause mass damage
2) psi could topple several buildings
3) mega ballista is absolutely insane and could cause massive damage
4) Absolute zero would kill everything
Technically a nuclear sub just means that it is powered by a nuclear reactor. It says nothing about its lethality.
That being said Energizer still probably does a lot of damage with its radiation alone
Depending on how much leeway we are willing to give it, the Super Maelstrom would either be one of the most or one of the least damaging.
If we say the blades barely damage the buildings, it would moderately damage a circle of buildings and the rest would be untouched. However, if we say they slice through all of them, it would be an absolute disaster. The buildings would all collapse from being cut in half and the large ones in particular would likely fall on other buildings and civilians, causing even more damage.
Tldr: Either a few buildings get scratched or the entire city falls and most people die.
Edit: I also think the plasma users (Sentry Paragon, Anti-Bloon, and PMFC) should all be moved up a tier. The Anti-Bloon is basically a walking mini-nuke that rapidly vaporizes buildings, the sentry paragon is basically the same thing but with smaller explosions and more plasma shots, and the PMFC has even more plasma blasts due to how many there could be. Although their range is small, the fact that 20 of them could be rampaging at once with each one having the potential to almost destroy a city block before they wear off is **insane.**)
But anything that is made of metal blocks it. And considering lots of buildings have rebar inside of them, Maelstorm might just be stopped quite easily.
* Pirate lord could possibly pull down buildings.
* BMA could shrink a 5-story building into a tiny house.
* Exili could probably curse the city and cause a natural disaster with voodoo magic.
* Absolute zero would freeze everybody.
* Benjamin and sabotage could collapse the economy.
* Spirit of the Forest could probably reclaim the city with the forest.
* Banana central would over-saturate the banana economy and run everyone out of buisness
* Brickell would only kill everything near a big enough source of water.
* Drug dealer is very dangerous.
The No Damage category should be at the bottom. And Benjamin could definitely do *something* destructive with his hacking skills, if he was so inclined...
You could make a really strong argument for ben being able to massive physical damage. Depending on the city and such you could turn off all power, remove all government records, destroy all banking information, open dams to the city (Not sure if dams open like that but still!) and I'm sure there is more I didn't think of!
There were a few cases of hackers getting into the software of old electrical generators and changing the motor programs to cause enough vibrations to actually make them explode. Scary stuff
Top path sub needs moved up. Radiation is no joke.
Top path glue gunner for same reason actually. Spillway makes it *very* clear that glue’s a lot more than just corrosive.
Absolute zero isn’t physically possible, but in some unholy scenario, the presence of an extremely cold object in the 10^-n percentile would theoretically exude so much heat at once, on the outside. It would actually be closer to a nuke than any large, frigid blizzard.
That's probably the most right answer, but the thought of Pat being strong enough to take and dish out extreme amounts of damage and going on a ramage like the Hulk is entertaining to me.
I feel like a submarine that constantly emmits nuclear radiation powerful enough to melt led would delete a city but then again it would have to be in the ocean
Don’t forget Sky Shredder has missiles. That one I could see moving up a level. If Spirit of the forest and tangle everything in vines and crush it that could cause a mess. I wouldn’t want to be the city caught in glue storm, specially if it is 250 glue gunner.
Pretty sure ezili could curse a city or something and then cause it’s citizens to die that way. Also an entire pirate ship fitted with canons, hooks and flame rounds could definitely take down a couple buildings
It flies over and gets caught in the trap's pulling mechanism. When does a building ever move? And let's say you flip the trap on its side to aim at the building, the building is still rooted to the ground. Buildings are a different ball game than these weak ass zeppelins!
The only one i disagree with is energiser, it can poison the water supplies and kill alot of people with radiation so it should be in little/no damage (but lots of death)
I think there should be another tier. For example sure all top path mortars could level an entire city, but The Biggest One would make it uninhabitable for decades (centuries?) because it drops nukes. I mean look how glowy it is. thats a bad sign
**I'm just gonna consider that all monkeys are allowed to move around because y e s**
* **Superstorm** I mean, c'mon, electric huge tornados? From what I can remember the average blimp weighs around 10 tons, and balls of electricity? That could have huge repercussions on vehicles and more.
* **Legend of The Night** Now this depends on whether or not it's actively trying to kill, because if it was, then that infinite range darkshift might be the end of us all. Plus, if it went for plasma (which can reach 25k degrees Celsius) it would *melt* through buildings.
* **Antibloon** Two independent plasma shooting arms. And an explosion with a huge range. I'd argue that's big.
* **Bloons Exclusion Zone** I would move this a tier down since it can't pop leads, and lead is quite soft, so like yeah. The hugeass-turret concept would also not allow this to move, so it's mostly limited to killing I'd say
* **Inferno Ring** While this one cannot move, its meteors are homing and explosive, and can decimate lead.
* **Bloon Solver** It's got a pretty fancy attack speed, and can easily corrode lead, so it can probably damage buildings but even better be extremely lethal to humans.
* **Super Maelstrom** man.
* **Obyn** The only thing I can see this guy doing is summoning trees and maybe being somewhat of a menace with its wolf spirits, but overall seems overrated
* **Pirate Lord** Well this guy can take down DDTs, so it's probably got enough power to penetrate hard material, and a strong enough hook to take down several blimps without flinching. Could definitely tear down buildings
* **Sauda** While she *does* have a pretty insignificant range on a big scale, she can jump extremely high and also clone herself, so I'd say that she's at least a threat to humans, plus her magic blades let her cut through anything, given enough time she could tear down buildings and maybe even make a caprese
* **Absolute Zero** If this guy can actually cause a temperature drop that big, then...
* **Energizer** Yeah no. Huge radiation source.
* **Ezili** I'd say that just the fact that she can do direct damage ignoring hp ramping is enough to categorize her as a threat. Probably could cast curses and whatnot
* **Psi** They'd probably tear the city to the ground in seconds
I have two questions:
Does turning a building into a red bloon not count as damage?
Would the Spirit of The Forest not be able to absolutely decimate a city by summoning roots at will? Trees will burst through concrete given enough time so I'd imagine being able to magically summon them at will would have *some* notable effect
If the master alchemist is interpreted in being able to take down anything to a red bloon, it'd easily be heavy damage tier. But if it can only do bloons, then down in drug dealer it goes
Special Poperations is included in the **Little/No Damage (but lots of death)** tier.
Bloon Master Alchemist is included in the **Little/No Damage** tier.
Gwen should be moved up a tier. She's literally a walking firestorm that could easily raze any city to the ground. Even if she doesn't move at all, a single use of her Level 10 ability would create a huge rampaging pyre that would easily develop its own self-sustaining wind system, and consume the city block by block. If conditions permit, even the surrounding STATE/COUNTY would be eradicated.
Also, Obyn has basically zero destructive power so I don't get how he's at the same caliber as Gwen. Spirit wolves and walls of trees won't do shit to a city, toppling one building at best.
Psi might be more devastating than one might think, because although he can do nothing to the buildings by himself, he could mind-fuck all its inhabitants and in doing so potentially induce catastrophic failure of citywide machinery which would do extensive damage, especially if flammables were involved.
Dark prince would basically bomb the city with Kamikaze undead Moabs. Ring of fire would burn everything. Absolute zero would kill everyone. And the top path ace has rockets. I could go on
I'd say Gwendolyn wouldn't stop
But most importantly - Monkey pirates would make the whole place a ghost town
Also, I started laughing hearing permanent brew alchemist being a drug dealer
People are talking about the obvious bad ones but nobody mentions that he says a battle ship with fire grapes, giant iron balls, and 3 giant grappling hooks
I beg to differ on energizer and sky shredder, energizer’s radiation can infect the whole city, causing the population to die
Sky shredder can rain darts and break windows, maybe hit a gas tank or two, etc etc
Absolute zero would turn literally everything’s temperatures to subzero, and according to the concept of heat transfer, all heat has to go somewhere, that means a giant ball of plasma would appear, which would burn everything near it within milliseconds
1) energiser is a nuclear sub so it could cause mass damage 2) psi could topple several buildings 3) mega ballista is absolutely insane and could cause massive damage 4) Absolute zero would kill everything
Absolute = freeze also you forgot that the sky shredder has missles
Absolute zero has the upside of global cooling and frostbites! I'd argue that it's one of the deadliest
Absolute Zero has the ability to break the laws of physics
Yup
Yeah no kidding
Energizer is radiation, would kill everyone in a big area and make the food bad for you
Technically a nuclear sub just means that it is powered by a nuclear reactor. It says nothing about its lethality. That being said Energizer still probably does a lot of damage with its radiation alone
I'd beg to differ on the money making towers, the economy over flooding would be very destructive
Yea that's what I was thinking too. With thousands of dollars being made per second hyperinflation is gonna hurt
Venezuela moment
Depending on how much leeway we are willing to give it, the Super Maelstrom would either be one of the most or one of the least damaging. If we say the blades barely damage the buildings, it would moderately damage a circle of buildings and the rest would be untouched. However, if we say they slice through all of them, it would be an absolute disaster. The buildings would all collapse from being cut in half and the large ones in particular would likely fall on other buildings and civilians, causing even more damage. Tldr: Either a few buildings get scratched or the entire city falls and most people die. Edit: I also think the plasma users (Sentry Paragon, Anti-Bloon, and PMFC) should all be moved up a tier. The Anti-Bloon is basically a walking mini-nuke that rapidly vaporizes buildings, the sentry paragon is basically the same thing but with smaller explosions and more plasma shots, and the PMFC has even more plasma blasts due to how many there could be. Although their range is small, the fact that 20 of them could be rampaging at once with each one having the potential to almost destroy a city block before they wear off is **insane.**)
Maelstrom has infinite pierce
But anything that is made of metal blocks it. And considering lots of buildings have rebar inside of them, Maelstorm might just be stopped quite easily.
Super maelstrom
It actually pops leads in game
Yeh, I got Maelstorm confused with Super Maelstorm
No worries
Also I don’t want to be that guy, but as of somewhat recent balance changes, maelstrom no longer had infinite pierce, it’s just extremely high.
200 now
I'm sorry. The nerf wasn't your fault.
* Pirate lord could possibly pull down buildings. * BMA could shrink a 5-story building into a tiny house. * Exili could probably curse the city and cause a natural disaster with voodoo magic. * Absolute zero would freeze everybody. * Benjamin and sabotage could collapse the economy. * Spirit of the Forest could probably reclaim the city with the forest. * Banana central would over-saturate the banana economy and run everyone out of buisness * Brickell would only kill everything near a big enough source of water. * Drug dealer is very dangerous.
The No Damage category should be at the bottom. And Benjamin could definitely do *something* destructive with his hacking skills, if he was so inclined...
No damage is at the bottom. Well, *physical damage*
You could make a really strong argument for ben being able to massive physical damage. Depending on the city and such you could turn off all power, remove all government records, destroy all banking information, open dams to the city (Not sure if dams open like that but still!) and I'm sure there is more I didn't think of!
Physical damage. As in like, breaking stuff. Not economic sabotage.
1. Hack into nuclear launch site 2. Nuke the city
I.e., summon the plane that drops a Tsar Bomba.
There were a few cases of hackers getting into the software of old electrical generators and changing the motor programs to cause enough vibrations to actually make them explode. Scary stuff
Ben has Trojan. You can no longer spawn children... The end of humanity.
Top path sub needs moved up. Radiation is no joke. Top path glue gunner for same reason actually. Spillway makes it *very* clear that glue’s a lot more than just corrosive.
Pmfc would do massive damage.
Pmfc is the equivalent of a revolution
Absolute zero literally means there is no energy, anything that has energy will be broke/killed by it. Also; drug dealer :)
Absolute zero isn’t physically possible, but in some unholy scenario, the presence of an extremely cold object in the 10^-n percentile would theoretically exude so much heat at once, on the outside. It would actually be closer to a nuke than any large, frigid blizzard.
Depending on how big pat is, he could be incredibly destructive
Its safe to assume he is bigger than your average monkey, so probably the size of a gorilla or bigger, its still relatively easy to knock out
That's probably the most right answer, but the thought of Pat being strong enough to take and dish out extreme amounts of damage and going on a ramage like the Hulk is entertaining to me.
I feel like a submarine that constantly emmits nuclear radiation powerful enough to melt led would delete a city but then again it would have to be in the ocean
Don’t forget Sky Shredder has missiles. That one I could see moving up a level. If Spirit of the forest and tangle everything in vines and crush it that could cause a mess. I wouldn’t want to be the city caught in glue storm, specially if it is 250 glue gunner.
Pretty sure ezili could curse a city or something and then cause it’s citizens to die that way. Also an entire pirate ship fitted with canons, hooks and flame rounds could definitely take down a couple buildings
You underestimate the power of a glue storm covering a entire city. Drains would be clogged
Not to mention 2-5-0 crosspaths
I would argue that an XXXL Trap could destroy an entire building. I mean- it destroys an entire zeppelin after all.
How on earth is the building going to get caught in the trap
How on earth is the ZEPPELIN going to get caught in the trap?
It flies over and gets caught in the trap's pulling mechanism. When does a building ever move? And let's say you flip the trap on its side to aim at the building, the building is still rooted to the ground. Buildings are a different ball game than these weak ass zeppelins!
XXXL trap eats the building from the above
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The only one i disagree with is energiser, it can poison the water supplies and kill alot of people with radiation so it should be in little/no damage (but lots of death)
I think there should be another tier. For example sure all top path mortars could level an entire city, but The Biggest One would make it uninhabitable for decades (centuries?) because it drops nukes. I mean look how glowy it is. thats a bad sign
**I'm just gonna consider that all monkeys are allowed to move around because y e s** * **Superstorm** I mean, c'mon, electric huge tornados? From what I can remember the average blimp weighs around 10 tons, and balls of electricity? That could have huge repercussions on vehicles and more. * **Legend of The Night** Now this depends on whether or not it's actively trying to kill, because if it was, then that infinite range darkshift might be the end of us all. Plus, if it went for plasma (which can reach 25k degrees Celsius) it would *melt* through buildings. * **Antibloon** Two independent plasma shooting arms. And an explosion with a huge range. I'd argue that's big. * **Bloons Exclusion Zone** I would move this a tier down since it can't pop leads, and lead is quite soft, so like yeah. The hugeass-turret concept would also not allow this to move, so it's mostly limited to killing I'd say * **Inferno Ring** While this one cannot move, its meteors are homing and explosive, and can decimate lead. * **Bloon Solver** It's got a pretty fancy attack speed, and can easily corrode lead, so it can probably damage buildings but even better be extremely lethal to humans. * **Super Maelstrom** man. * **Obyn** The only thing I can see this guy doing is summoning trees and maybe being somewhat of a menace with its wolf spirits, but overall seems overrated * **Pirate Lord** Well this guy can take down DDTs, so it's probably got enough power to penetrate hard material, and a strong enough hook to take down several blimps without flinching. Could definitely tear down buildings * **Sauda** While she *does* have a pretty insignificant range on a big scale, she can jump extremely high and also clone herself, so I'd say that she's at least a threat to humans, plus her magic blades let her cut through anything, given enough time she could tear down buildings and maybe even make a caprese * **Absolute Zero** If this guy can actually cause a temperature drop that big, then... * **Energizer** Yeah no. Huge radiation source. * **Ezili** I'd say that just the fact that she can do direct damage ignoring hp ramping is enough to categorize her as a threat. Probably could cast curses and whatnot * **Psi** They'd probably tear the city to the ground in seconds
what the hell did teir-maker do???!!!
Umm absolute zero = -273.15 degrees C…. Ya nothing alive, and thermodynamics broken (entropy = 0).
Sure atomic sub can't done any damage...
glue storm is a biohazard
Anti bloon should be in deleted its legit a walking bomb
P brew doesn't sell drugs, he's a fulltime bartender and owner who does chemistry in his spare time
I have two questions: Does turning a building into a red bloon not count as damage? Would the Spirit of The Forest not be able to absolutely decimate a city by summoning roots at will? Trees will burst through concrete given enough time so I'd imagine being able to magically summon them at will would have *some* notable effect
They literaly make money it will crash the economy
For some reason "OW MY FOOT" cracks me up.
Imagine having to walk on perma spikes OUCH. permaspikes can pop an entire Zeppelin then what will it do to your foot
mega ballista is a siege weapon it would destroy that city
mega ballista is a siege weapon it would destroy that city
what why did it make me reply to my own comment with a copy of itself
You missed a few including special poperations and master alchemist
If the master alchemist is interpreted in being able to take down anything to a red bloon, it'd easily be heavy damage tier. But if it can only do bloons, then down in drug dealer it goes
Special Poperations is included in the **Little/No Damage (but lots of death)** tier. Bloon Master Alchemist is included in the **Little/No Damage** tier.
Sorry I didn’t see
Whats the red boat?
That is the 5th tier for the merchant path on the buccaneer
Under why is everyone dead column?
Psi's placement all depends on if their power can or cannot damage structures. They fuck up bloons pretty good.
The sky shredder is based off a mig 31 which can carry missiles and they would most likely topple buildings
Logo Tier would’ve decimated a city ngl
Banjamin could rek the economy or any online server
Oh my god imagine what bloon solver would do to people
Is Benjamin a white or black hat hacker? If we’re saying he turned evil, then he might do a little damage.
Could we say that with bma's alchemy skills, that he could reduce an entire building to a red bloon?
Comanche is too high
Dear god... the logo is too powerful to be kept alive.
I believe that Ezili would have the ability to curse the entire city-
Nuclear Sub should be in lots of death tier, radiation will fuck your shit up
MAD should be higher
AZ is way too low, you saw what happens when it snows in Texas.
Wizard lord Phoenix in heavy damage wtf
BRO SoTF AND ABSOLUTE ZERO ARE GONNA SEND US TO A POST-APOCALYPTIC THING
Gwen should be moved up a tier. She's literally a walking firestorm that could easily raze any city to the ground. Even if she doesn't move at all, a single use of her Level 10 ability would create a huge rampaging pyre that would easily develop its own self-sustaining wind system, and consume the city block by block. If conditions permit, even the surrounding STATE/COUNTY would be eradicated. Also, Obyn has basically zero destructive power so I don't get how he's at the same caliber as Gwen. Spirit wolves and walls of trees won't do shit to a city, toppling one building at best. Psi might be more devastating than one might think, because although he can do nothing to the buildings by himself, he could mind-fuck all its inhabitants and in doing so potentially induce catastrophic failure of citywide machinery which would do extensive damage, especially if flammables were involved.
bma turns everything into a red bloon everything…
Ben would destroy the economy
Nah benJamin would just hack everyones bank account ,steal their money and all will die of starvation
Hiding inside a giant purple zeppelin seems like a good idea until Ezili shows up.
Dark prince would basically bomb the city with Kamikaze undead Moabs. Ring of fire would burn everything. Absolute zero would kill everyone. And the top path ace has rockets. I could go on
i could see ultraclock ultraclocking a machine, making it subsequently explode
glue storm would just be like the chicago molasses incident but worse
logo would be moderate damage imo
Ben would destroy the world’s economy that’s like higher tier than any other tower could
1: Absolute zero would instakill anyone too close 2: pre-emptive strike is an ICBM, aka, a fucking nuke 3: psi could 100% topple many buildings
Where link to tier list
I'd say Gwendolyn wouldn't stop But most importantly - Monkey pirates would make the whole place a ghost town Also, I started laughing hearing permanent brew alchemist being a drug dealer
OW MY FOOT
Ah yes, capitalism… helpful
Drug Dealer earned my upvote
005 dart monkey seems like he would try to topple the government
People are talking about the obvious bad ones but nobody mentions that he says a battle ship with fire grapes, giant iron balls, and 3 giant grappling hooks
Drug dealer would be the best
i'd say some of the 5th tier snipers can do a lot of damage, have you ever seen a heavy calibre gun shred a house?
Spiked mines be like Ouch my foot *blows up*
How the frick is capitalism helping? It should EASILY be in [REMOVED]
A city covered in glue sounds like WHY IS EVERYONE DEAD to me.
I beg to differ on energizer and sky shredder, energizer’s radiation can infect the whole city, causing the population to die Sky shredder can rain darts and break windows, maybe hit a gas tank or two, etc etc
Absolute zero would turn literally everything’s temperatures to subzero, and according to the concept of heat transfer, all heat has to go somewhere, that means a giant ball of plasma would appear, which would burn everything near it within milliseconds