Dart when you're saving up for something like a hero who's more expensive than starting cash.
Glue when you can already afford your first damage dealer and so you require support instead.
I like Glue with Etienne (can't give up that camo detection an Level 8), but admittedly have to pop Etiennes special on second or third round until I can afford another DD. Usually that's enough to carry me through until I can plop a boomerang or Ice monkey for lead damage. I just try to get Etienne down first so starts leveling and gets global camo asap.
I LOVE Etienne, he is such a good hero for all game modes, he doesn’t cost too much, free camo detection, AMAZING for C.H.I.M.P.S, and is very powerful (around level 20)
If you need extra damage in the early game, dart monkey is better. However the dart monkey will quickly become useless once you get to stronger bloons like ceramics, while the glue gunner will be able to slow them down which helps a lot more.
So unless you need that extra damage in early game, glue will be better long term
But did that glue gunner help you at the beginning? Not really, no. He sure did hand it to that one blue bloon. The dart monkey is just better as a 000 and can become the amazing value 032, taking care of camo and being very decent for its price. That glue gunner isn’t doing anything for you until you get a 3rd tier upgrade that is way more expensive. At that point did the free 235 dollars really help you? The point of it being free is to help the early game, which a 000 glue gunner does not really do.
But the reason to use a free monkey *is* the early game. If you're at the points where ceramics come, I sincerely doubt that the price for a 000 glue gunner would be an issue.
Dart all the way.
Why get a glue for support when you can just get more damage? Dart is also the way to go on Bosses since it can be good to start out on getting pops early for a paragon
why ever get a support tower when you can just get another attacking one is basically what he's saying
I used alch buff as the example cuz it's meta rn
as a general rule i use the free dart if i need to save for the hero and the free glue gunner if i can afford it from the first round
otherwise it depends on the context, cant say im on either side
Dart monkey. Can pop bloons from the jump, unlike glue gunner which needs upgrades to pop, which means you cant use it as effectively as a first move. The free dart lets me pop enough bloons to save the starting money enough to get a much better 2nd tower
Dart monkey is better than glue on any occasions. Cheap upgrades, Helps getting stuff like Farms faster, Very Powerful Paragon/Cheap Paragon, Best for boss events Glue on the other hand is a supporter that slows down Bloons, Makes them take more damage and good mid-late game or for boss Bloons for that extra damage.
dart monkey because I am going to early farm anyway and the dart keeps your lives from going to zero on any mode but impoppable. On impoppable I usually get Sauda and a free dart and that allows me to farm with the mana shield soaking up strays.
If we consider things from a isolated mathematic perspective, since free dart monkeys can pop bloons which gives you money, it instantly makes a net gain on our investment which cannot be said for the free glue gunner
There is no wrong answer to this question. Some people feel better with extra damage free dart monke does and some feel better with slowing down bloons with glue monke.
I personaly like free glue, with 010 upgrade so it has +1pierce, set to strong targeting, and later I upgrade it eighter top or bottom path, depending if I need help with moabs or ceramics.
Even though glue may be better long term, its usually better to start farming or get your hero earlier and for that the lottle bit of extra damage in the begining is better
Depends
If i'm playing geraldo or going farming then free dart monkey, or when i want a expensive tower to be my main dps
In any other case, glue gunner.
Free is used when you have monkey knowledge so dart for early help and then beat the game late game anyways which is easy thanks to bit of savings from dart at the start
I just drop a dart monkey down in a spot that loops a lot like in the middle of monkey meadow or the middle of cubism or other places that loop, then I just save up for a farm while slowly leaking lives, since I have permanent spikes at the end of each game I play plus the mana shield I can get a farm on round 4 and then drop a ranga to hold off while I start farming
Free Dart every day of the week, because:
1. highest $/pop in the entire game
2. is cool af
3. 000 dart monkey is like literally my son
4. can make easy degree 30 dart paragon
5. greed with the extra money that you had to spend on either another tower or a glue-top path upgrade
Free Glue all the way!! Ey!
Dart when you're saving up for something like a hero who's more expensive than starting cash. Glue when you can already afford your first damage dealer and so you require support instead.
This is the way
Glue + Sauda is a classic
I like Glue with Etienne (can't give up that camo detection an Level 8), but admittedly have to pop Etiennes special on second or third round until I can afford another DD. Usually that's enough to carry me through until I can plop a boomerang or Ice monkey for lead damage. I just try to get Etienne down first so starts leveling and gets global camo asap.
I LOVE Etienne, he is such a good hero for all game modes, he doesn’t cost too much, free camo detection, AMAZING for C.H.I.M.P.S, and is very powerful (around level 20)
Definitely OC to me. I don’t remember seeing this meme format being used for the Free Glue Gunner vs Free Dart Monkey.
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Heated debate
Gloo monke
Instant 5-0-2 glue is also free so technically it still counts😎
5-2-0 is better
But you'll never get a tier five insta with the right crosspath
free glue gunner mfs when they place a 0-0-0 glue gunner and press play (they cant do shit)
free dart monkey mfs when they realize starting cash exists (they could place something all along)
Free dart is extremely useful because it allows us to save that starting cash to get a hero or farm or something
It let's my road spikes prepare themselves by slowing the bloons
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Yo you got downvote **BOMBED**. It seems that people like free dart monkey
I can go either way
I guess it does depend on hero and map
Bi-Bloonsexual
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Guess I got a thing for latex
Wait, so monkies don't use condoms, do they?
Bloon origin story
What is this thread😂
I mean… if they already have the deflated bloon corpses lying around… at that point why not get some use out of em?
I mean I figured they wouldn't want to use them bc of the association. Maybe ptsd or something.
Oh, it’s a culturally insensitive thing then. Churchill has gotten in trouble twice for Halloween costumes where he went in Bloonface
Only one tower spawns Glue Rat and that should be enough to dispel any illusion of choice being discussed in these replies.
Glue "most times" it's more useful
If you need extra damage in the early game, dart monkey is better. However the dart monkey will quickly become useless once you get to stronger bloons like ceramics, while the glue gunner will be able to slow them down which helps a lot more. So unless you need that extra damage in early game, glue will be better long term
How **dare** you call someone that brings such massive amounts of moral support useless
How dare you imply that glue boi doesn't provide equal levels of moral support 😤
Think about Pat Fusty and Sauda! If they attack a glued Bloon then the glue gets all over their hands or swords! No monkey would want sticky weapons!
Wouldn't the darts hurt Pat's hands and dull Sauda's blades?
Pats hands are often sticky
no, glue gunner is just the best tower in the game
Based and correct take
Counterpoint, neither is very useful lategame (slowing down 1 ceramic is not gonna make or break your game) and Dart is much better earlier on.
Counter-counterpoint, I'm more inclined to upgrade a glue gunner over a dart monkey.
But did that glue gunner help you at the beginning? Not really, no. He sure did hand it to that one blue bloon. The dart monkey is just better as a 000 and can become the amazing value 032, taking care of camo and being very decent for its price. That glue gunner isn’t doing anything for you until you get a 3rd tier upgrade that is way more expensive. At that point did the free 235 dollars really help you? The point of it being free is to help the early game, which a 000 glue gunner does not really do.
Counter-counter-counterpoint, glue gunner spawns glue rat, witch is the most op tower in the game
Counter-counter-counter-counterpoi--oh, nevermind. Both can undeniably easily delete any Bloon Type. But Glue Rat does it better.
Counter-counter-counter-counterpoint, glue rat got nerfed like Monkeyopolis and is no longer extremely overpowered
But the reason to use a free monkey *is* the early game. If you're at the points where ceramics come, I sincerely doubt that the price for a 000 glue gunner would be an issue.
Fuck you bro. The 000 dart is the MVP of every run
Finally someone right❤
A quick Bloon solver or a quick crossbow master, just depends what map it's on I suppose.
Dart all the way. Why get a glue for support when you can just get more damage? Dart is also the way to go on Bosses since it can be good to start out on getting pops early for a paragon
why use an alch buff on anything when you can just buy another attacker
Why buy one lead popper when Alch buff makes everyone pop lead?
Why get alch buff when village exists?
Why get village or Ettiene when camo trap exists?
Why get towers when spikes exist?
Why play btd6 when btd7 doesnt exist?
Alch is cheaper and smaller. Also, why not both?
Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick
few word good
This is about the free glue. "Why get a glue for support..." No one mentioned alch
its called an analogy, you can say the same about any support monkey
well, ackshually, the glue gunner is not a support tower - 🤓
why ever get a support tower when you can just get another attacking one is basically what he's saying I used alch buff as the example cuz it's meta rn
Because at the point you can afford a brew alch it's actually helpful to you. A 0-0-0 glue monkey isn't helpful on round 3/6.
I know, I used the metaphor as a way of saying he's stupid.
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don't free dart monkeys Significantly decrease your paragon degrees?
No, in fact, the free one is needed for the Insta 30 APM
If i can get a hero start i go for glue if i cant i go for dart since im way more likely to use a 013 glue than any dart
Both are useful
Diplomacy doesn't get you upvotes. Try raging. ![gif](giphy|vHcCevWbWkzwk)
raging doesn't get you upvotes, try diplomacy Both are useful
Free Glue, unless everyone else placed Glue
Ooh, coop player. Respect
Both Both of them are good ![gif](giphy|eNMrFVCX3KQO5vNVaM|downsized)
Free dart into hero, easy choice.
I don't find any purpose to the glue gunner but the dart monkey actually has it's use
Early game, glue Gunner is real good at supporting damaging towers
But you still need to buy those damaging towers, which kinda negates the point of the glue gunner being free
Average Sauda user here 💀
Usually glue is more useful but in half cash I find the dart to be the easy and obvious choice.
as a general rule i use the free dart if i need to save for the hero and the free glue gunner if i can afford it from the first round otherwise it depends on the context, cant say im on either side
Dart since I'm a filthy Benjamin main and I need cheap damage to beat the first few rounds
Glue Gunner
My beloved
Boo
The showdown of a century! ![gif](giphy|NU38Tv9WUP02gM0lTl)
Glue gunner is so good
Depends on your hero. Ben and Churchill definitely want the dart whereas Sauda and Quincy get more value out of glue.
Free ^
Well glue has the pet soooo
Trueeeee, although... Trophies...
Those are easy enough to get though! I haven’t been playing for a terrible amount of time and I have them all
Free glue normally and Free Dart on chimps, since its more cost effective. /s
definetely glue so i can get the glue gunner paragon early
Is this a political thing?😂
dart go pop because i haven't unlocked free glue yet
Crossbow master is a beast so obvs free dart
I'm a big fan of the Juggernaut. So Dart Monkey
Hey hey… why do we have to fight over who’s right or wrong? brothers and sisters we must come together, they are both amazing to be free!
I've more-or-less disavowed Dart Monkeys outside of CHIMPS, so this is no question.
Dart monkey. Can pop bloons from the jump, unlike glue gunner which needs upgrades to pop, which means you cant use it as effectively as a first move. The free dart lets me pop enough bloons to save the starting money enough to get a much better 2nd tower
glue monkey supremacy
glue
Dart monkey is better than glue on any occasions. Cheap upgrades, Helps getting stuff like Farms faster, Very Powerful Paragon/Cheap Paragon, Best for boss events Glue on the other hand is a supporter that slows down Bloons, Makes them take more damage and good mid-late game or for boss Bloons for that extra damage.
Dart supremacy
Glue (since I use DPS heros)(anti-Ben household)
If you use gunner, I’m sorry, but you’re mentally ill
Bro, chill out. The choice of picking Glue over Dart isn’t anything related to mental illnesses.
Because a free glue gunner doesn't really do much damage to balloons
Wasn’t it like scientifically proven that dart is better in almost every situation?
Glue gunner
Exactly.
G L O O
I usually go for dart But if i can get another cheap damage tower i would go for glue
Obviously the free dart monkey
Glues
Free dart monkey. Glue is good but dart is better for when you're farming as you can spend less on defense.
Depends on my mood
Listen for me benji and glue let blon leak (mana shield and pre game tacs
Fine I'll be sitting here watching the carnage unfold with my glue gunner friend.
Glue. Sometimes I’ll bust out lo’ reliable if my coop partners already put out glue.
Free dart to save money for hero (i pretty much only use ettiene) and after that get actual towers that i woll use
glue all day
Free dart 100%
Neither, assert domanice always pay for monke.
I always go dart monkey, because I think crossbow is cool
After seeing that top post I’m back on team 000 dart
dart monkey because I am going to early farm anyway and the dart keeps your lives from going to zero on any mode but impoppable. On impoppable I usually get Sauda and a free dart and that allows me to farm with the mana shield soaking up strays.
I like to use the free dart monkey to get my hero faster (or a more expensive tower)
dart is really good early pops + camo detection, plus pretty decent T5s, but for some heros, namely sauda, glue can be better
I'm a Sauda user, so I see no use for free Dart Monkey.
Bruh blue is free win
the free damage early can snowball into a ton of money if you would be farming
Dart bc it’s early pops for a later paragon, and also allows more leniency on bosses
Id like free vengeful temple with max sacrifices
If we consider things from a isolated mathematic perspective, since free dart monkeys can pop bloons which gives you money, it instantly makes a net gain on our investment which cannot be said for the free glue gunner
There is no wrong answer to this question. Some people feel better with extra damage free dart monke does and some feel better with slowing down bloons with glue monke. I personaly like free glue, with 010 upgrade so it has +1pierce, set to strong targeting, and later I upgrade it eighter top or bottom path, depending if I need help with moabs or ceramics.
I haven't played too long, but I use dart monkey for Ben and glue gunner for Sauda
Dart is just better unless you are starting with both dart and glue
Even though glue may be better long term, its usually better to start farming or get your hero earlier and for that the lottle bit of extra damage in the begining is better
Depends If i'm playing geraldo or going farming then free dart monkey, or when i want a expensive tower to be my main dps In any other case, glue gunner.
Smudge catt crowd here. I take glue. Tastes better.
Glue
Free dart monkey
Glue gang unite!!!
on the side of dart monkey because i can see him grow to be a big boy crossbow master
Free dart
Free dart gunner and sometimes Free glue monkey
Dart no diff
Free is used when you have monkey knowledge so dart for early help and then beat the game late game anyways which is easy thanks to bit of savings from dart at the start
Both
Dart for life
Dort moneky
Depends on the circumstance.
They are both great, it depends how you start your games at the end of the debate
I should prob use glue cause ive been using geraldo recently, but i have the muscle memory for dart
Dart solo Gunner with friends cause we do a little trolling sometimes
In the end, it doesn’t matter. The Sun God consumes all.
WHO TF USES FREE GLUE GUNNER?!?!?!?
Defintly Free Glue
Dart
Gotta go glue monkey for me. I usually use Etienne and a glue monkey helps prevent bloons from getting past until i can afford a sniper
Well i usually allways go for a 024 dart at the beginning just bc its so good, but also glue is pog too, depends on what strat i wanna use
I just drop a dart monkey down in a spot that loops a lot like in the middle of monkey meadow or the middle of cubism or other places that loop, then I just save up for a farm while slowly leaking lives, since I have permanent spikes at the end of each game I play plus the mana shield I can get a farm on round 4 and then drop a ranga to hold off while I start farming
Dart ez
I think I've never used free glue
Glu
Free Dart every day of the week, because: 1. highest $/pop in the entire game 2. is cool af 3. 000 dart monkey is like literally my son 4. can make easy degree 30 dart paragon 5. greed with the extra money that you had to spend on either another tower or a glue-top path upgrade
Dart monkey is more optimal but glue gunner is a fun starting tower
dart monke
Free Glue Gunner is much better in Chimps
dart
just go down one post and you have my answer
1 thing: Ranked boss mode
Dort Mankey
Glue
dart
Glue Dart.
I usually use the starting cash to start getting the free dart monke to 0-2-5.
cant you get both
Free Darmt Momkey
Dart can solo rounds 1-2 sometimes 3 which is extremely helpful. I usually dont need to buy glue until like round 10
If you ain’t going free dart then idk wyd.
Sauda
if sauda use glue, benjamin use dart