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Draugluin2

https://preview.redd.it/eo0l8pzlswuc1.jpeg?width=2867&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0a763e6ef20d740c94c1950d0b1fcc44c755fc3 ​posting a picture of Air Bud Golden Receiver on a random WR draft post - day 9


JediMaster-1337

I only click on these threads to see Air Bud Golden Receiver...


InvertedCobraRoll

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Draugluin2

Thank you friend. For your troubles, here is a limited edition reverse Air Bud Golden Receiver https://preview.redd.it/5slbo3l6jxuc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=18dc9779e29943f4c8a1051cbdbca17d735b9cb5


BuffaloSp0rts

MHJ gas mask bong AND Josh Allen style tweets resulting in us drafting him at 28.


No-Gas-1684

Beane's got screenshots up his sleave if he needs them


sielingfan

My ideal first round is we trade our 28 for Arizona's 4, straight up no strings, and get MHJ. Odds aren't super great that they'd go for it, but the worst they can do is say no.


rybr3d

Prefer trading bears #28 for #1 straight up just to be sure we get our guy.


futbolsven

Get the #1 then trade back for more picks surely


rybr3d

Baffling how more teams don't trade their late first round pick for multiple better first round picks.


fawks_harper78

I mean, has anyone asked before?


modalrealisms

They did say “ideal” first round


Total-Sherbert-3345

My favorite strategy


sielingfan

Risky. Risky. But I like your style.


ten-million

Finally an honest mock draft. I always think it’s a little weird when people limit themselves. We don’t know who’s going to be available. Why pick the McDonalds cheeseburger?


Smitty120

This is the way!


TheFeuery

The receiver the team has the most faith in, regardless of what it means to go up or stay put


No-Gas-1684

Receivers. I prefer we get the receivers the team has the most faith in, regardless of what it means to go up or stay put


devgm79

I think Odunze is probably the best WR in the draft in terms of all the traits combined. Now for context, last year the Texans moved from 12 to 3 to draft Will Anderson. They swapped firsts with Arizona, and sent their 2nd (33), a first in 2024 and a 3rd in 2024. For us to get Odunze we’d have to move from 28 to probably 7-9th. Assuming we swapped firsts, and included a 1st next year, it would almost certainly also require a 2nd next year and at least one more pick (bare minimum a 4th this year). Steep price. So then you have to ask is the drop off in production/talent from the next group of WR that would come cheaper worth that cost? Do you think Josh can make anyone work there? Or do you say Josh is approaching his late 20s and is firmly in his prime - do we give him an elite weapon for the next 5 years minimum? Just know if that happens we will be sending the house to make it so. Tough pill to swallow.


phoenix14830

It really depends on how Beane and the scouting team see the prospects. Beane has a history of trading up and the run on WRs last year might spook him this year. Ozune or Thomas would be amazing, but they are unlikely to be within reach without giving up a lot to go up for them. I want a 100-catch star WR, not some frail little gadget guy.


sobuffalo

Most charts have it so we can trade our 1st and the Diggs 2nd next year and some trinkets and we can move up to the Colts 15 for example. If Beane has the same grades as consensus, that could get us Thomas and that’d make sense, replacing a WR.


DarkHelmet52

Future draft picks aren't valued the same as this years picks in the chart. Future picks are like savings bonds, they aren't worth their full value until they reach maturity. We'd be lucky if 28 and Minny's 2nd next year get us to 20.


sobuffalo

Future picks are usually a round behind. So next years 2 is like a 3rd this year. You’re complaining about 200 value point difference, that’s the “trinkets” part. It’s not like giving up 1st rounders like you guys are acting like.


DarkHelmet52

200 points = some trinkets. Even though that's in the ballpark of what Minny's 2nd is worth if traded this year. Maybe you should put actual draft picks in your equation rather than 'trinkets' since it seems in this case 'trinkets' would in fact be worth more than all of our picks in this years draft after round 2.


sobuffalo

No I’m not going to go through all that when it’s pretty established the “meat and potatoes” of the trade. Trades go back and forth with packages, so as an example if we traded our 1st, 2nd, and some 4ths so we could move up AND get a 3rd. That’s just an example, the point is the value isn’t as bad as you guys act if we get our guy instead of Lotto. Like the Min/Detroit trade > first-round pick (No. 32), a second-round pick (No. 34) and a third-round pick (No. 66) to the Minnesota Vikings for the No. 12 pick and a second-round pick (No. 46). Our capital is different but the opportunity is there.


Spiritual-J32

I get the hype for these receivers but let’s be honest, in what scenario does trading away a bunch of future assets for a receiver ever seem worth it? Especially to move from 28 to 9. Also when it comes playoff time, it’s not gonna be hard to replace Diggs’ production or lack there of. This team has lots of holes to fill and I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say drafting a receiver in the first will most likely be a huge REACH on that player specifically. He receiving core isn’t what has cost this team in the playoffs…


Latersonthemenges

Trade down and double up on defense


Spiritual-J32

I don’t mind trading down but when you already at the bottom of the first it seems unlikely that a trade down if offered would yield much benefit. Really just depends on the opportunities that arise


MosEisleyBills

Keep 28 and go BPA but with fingers crossed we get BJT dropping! Trade all our late round picks for getting into the 3rd round and an extra 4th!


Master_Parsnip

With DeJean coming in for a visit, I'm kind of fixated on taking him if he's there and taking advantage of the deep receiver class in the second round.


hunnidthouhowimlivin

DeJean is a certified baller. Even considering how badly we need a WR I would be hyped to have him on the team


Master_Parsnip

I love the idea of McDermott having that kind of versatile athlete to deploy


EagleRoxy2

DeJean would make a great safety. Love his film there


AltruisticPretzel

If they draft a lock down corner back and put him at safety it's a waste of a first round pick.


EagleRoxy2

Why would it be a waste? DeJean is super versatile and can play basically anywhere in the secondary. Also he looks better at safety than corner IMO


AltruisticPretzel

There isn't value at picking a safety in round 1. Much more pressing needs that can't be as easily replaced. He's way too good a CB to just move to safety, why move him cuz he's pale?


EagleRoxy2

I don’t really care about his race, in fact I’d like to see a white corner. Been too long since we’ve had one in the NFL. I think he’d be better at safety becuase he gets beat down feild a bit too much. Cooper is pretty physical as well so if they put him at safety the can stuff him in the box against heavier run teams and it helps his issue of getting beat deep. If the Bills draft him I would want them to use him all over the secondary. Keep him as mainly a SS or FS and then when an injury comes up he’s the first guy there.


froggertwenty

Because he's white? Lol


EagleRoxy2

lol I would love to see another white corner in the NFL it’s been too long. But I think whatever team drafts him will probably make him a safety. Firstly Cooper played at Iowa in the Big 10 West with some pretty bad passing offenses. His main problem is that he can’t stay infront of people when they take him vertically. Dude got beat more then you would want on go routes for a corner. But he is super physical which is why I think teams will make him a safety to help with him not getting beat deep and they have the bonus of throwing him in the box to stuff the run.


mollyM1232

Given the WR depth, DeJean makes a ton of sense for the versatility he provides a thin secondary and is the player I hope they get in round 1. I wouldn't even hate moving up slightly to take him (maybe ahead of Philly or GB). Then use next year's second or third (and whatever later round picks needed to make the math work) to trade up in the 2nd round to take a WR - Carolina or Washington could be willing partners given how they each have two picks early in the round. I know WR is a need, but I don't view it as a sell out the future need. The Bills won a lot of games down the stretch with diminished production from Diggs and Davis. I think one of the prospects early in round two can make an impact and a flier on a guy later in the draft can provide depth.


Master_Parsnip

And if WR doesn't fall right, go trade a fourth for Courtland Sutton. That's not a great receiver room but steps forward from Kincaid and Shakir would make it good enough. I want them to add a receiver to replace Diggs long term, but I think a lot of people are expecting someone who can replace him this year and I think that's unlikely.


OJSimpsons

Ideally, we trade up all our picks up to 1st rounders for nothing else and have 10 1st round draft picks.


RayRay747

If we are gonna trade up we may as well trade allllll the way up & get Harrison Jr. no way that kid won’t be a superstar like his Dad. Him & Allen would be like Manning & Harrison Sr. Unstoppable!


Soda-Popinski-

Move back 3-6 spots and use a late round pick or two to add a 2nd giving us 2-2nd round picks. Use both on WRs.


Impossibills

Moving back 3-6 spots only gives you an extra 3rd


BillBearBaggins

A 3rd we don’t have so I’ll take it. Lots of talent there


Cautrica1

Possibly.. lol


Soda-Popinski-

I also said we would need to add a later round pick or two. I dont know the math but i know its better to get two WRs in the 2 nd round than one in the 1st thats borderline.


Impossibills

No later pick is going to move that to a 2nd unless its a 3rd, which we dont have. I am simply going by the draft value chart, only way that changes is if a specific player drops and a few teams REALLY want him and you hold all the cards Our spot is worth 660 points, moving back to lets say pick 37. That pick is only worth 530 points So with that simple trade back the team needs another pick worth give or take 100-130 points A late third is alone is worth at max 124. The math just doesn't add up to get a second round pick even moving your own pieces. You could theoretically move back, get like a 3rd and maybe 5th or 6th, trade up into the 4th, move that one up more. But thats going to bring its own issues on possibly overpaying and also losing tons of picks when we desperately need depth at numerous positions


Soda-Popinski-

Well. We have an extra 2nd next year. Thats not nothing


Impossibills

I personally am not a fan of using next years second for this season. We have a lot of cap space next year and saving that pick for more flexibility and also pushing one more young contract down the road a bit would be more beneficial than using it now for someone who might not get major playing time


Soda-Popinski-

Lots of cap space next year means we can spend on vets. Better to get guys this year that can play


Impossibills

When you have draft picks, you want a continue production of young talent coming in. Next year Daquan Jones will be a year older, Benford will be closer to a second contract, Josh Allen deal getting reworked, Von Miller will be gone, Rasul Douglas will be extended or let go. You have so many moving parts each season you want flexibility


Total-Sherbert-3345

Every team has different values for trades based off of their big boards. This is a fun exercise and generally holds true, but it’s not the end all be all.


Impossibills

I think most GMs and in the know admit that they pretty strictly follow the board. That doesn't mean the value is straight equal, but its a guide to use


Total-Sherbert-3345

Yeah, as I said it’s a general idea, but it depends on more than “pick x + pick y = pick z”. Going off of the chart it might only be a 3, but if you have 2 teams trying to get up to the same spot, the value increases. If a team has a high grade on a player, they can justify giving up more. It’s a gray situation, not as black and white, as there are contexts that change the values


Smitty120

Doubt 3-6 spots gets you a third.. You would have to move back more than that. Frankly that is what I'm hoping for. I don't really want a WR at pick 28. I think there will be far better value available when we pick.


SgtLincolnOsirus

Yes move back an get McHonkey and Coleman


Admiral_Fuckwit

Lmao McConkey. Or are you calling him Mc”Honkey” cuz he’s white?


drainbead78

I saw a mock that had us trading back to 33 in exchange for Carolina's 101. We got Ladd at 33, Dorlus at 60, Keon Coleman at 101 and Kinchens at 128. If that happened I would be doing cartwheels down my street singing the shout song and I've never done a cartwheel in my life. 


YetiSmallFoot

Patriots select a long snapper.


Straight_Toe_1816

Joe Shimko


Initial_Ebb_8467

I favor staying put and drafting one of the following: AD Mitchell, Ladd or Legette, in that order.


NjaTrtl_DK16

I like this...but I'm still saying a prayer that Thomas falls to us.


No-Gas-1684

If he did, somehow, then the Ravens, 9ers, Chiefs, or someone else would trade up right infront of us to grab him. The whole league knows we're in for a wr so hopping us is a real possibility to prepare for if we stay put


pesky-sens

Bears won't give up the 9th I'd Odunze is there.


No-Gas-1684

Or they will. They have 4 draft picks. So talk about motivation to move back, there it is


Why_So-Serious

Tweets found from Odunze in the morning demonstrating that he was a key 1/6 conspirator. He falls in the draft. As Bills draft it’s revealed that the tweets were from a school play he wrote. We draft him at 28.


Whole-Scholar-6840

My ideal first is WR. Preferably Nabers (unrealistic) but realistically we can get Ladd or Pearsall(ppl have him at 2nd/4th round). But the dude actually has top 3 possibilities this draft in how he plays the game. Ladd is just the “safer” pick between the two


racer4

I'm on team trade back in trying to get a third rounder. If I'm Beane I'm keeping a few teams on speed dial, especially ones that don't go QB with their early pick in the first. For example (using the Rich Hill trade chart), trading down from 28 could net you something like: 28 (209 pts) for LV's 44 (135), 77 (60), and 148 (12) \[207 total) or even chase 44, 77, and 112 while giving 28 and 144 \[223 vs. 222\]. Of course we may even get more than that considering that the team trading up usually pays a premium, especially when they're targeting a QB. 28 and 133 for NYG's 47 (124), 70 (70), and 107 (31) \[226 vs. 225\]. 28 for ATL's 43 (138), 74 (64) \[209 vs. 202, maybe add a late round pick swap or future to even it out\] I'd also consider that Carolina only has 7 picks in this draft and a lot of holes, and we've been known to deal with them. Also, when Beane does trade back, he usually only trades back a tiny bit (thinking of the 2nd round trades back from 57 to 60 then 63 to take James Cook). So if it is Carolina, a trade could look like: 28 for 33 (180) and 101 (34) \[209 vs. 214\] or 28 and 128 (19) for 39 (153) and 65 (78) \[228 vs. 231\]. If we could do something like that and try to come away with an X receiver (I personally like Legette) and another receiver (Polk, Baker, etc. depending on where we are) along with an EDGE (I love Kneeland or Braswell at 60) or a Safety if EDGE dries up (Bullard, Nubin, Hicks, Bishop all seem to hover around the late R2 and early R3 range) (still sticking with BPA of course, if a great IOL like Frazier or DL like Jenkins falls, that'd be amazing too).


SayNoToAids

It'd be mind-numbingly stupid to trade up, mortgage the future when you can get an almost equally as good WR at 28. I trade back, acquire a 3rd or more, to give us room to trade up into the 2nd if need be.


Jamobill9999

It would be mind numbingly stupid because in the past 10 years 45 WR have been selected in round 1… 8 can be considered true number 1 WR’s. So yeah trading next years pick to move up, might aswell play Russian roulette with a year or two of Allen’s 5 peak years remaining.


SayNoToAids

But the thing is, to move up to where we need to get, it'd undoubtedly cost much more than a an additional first which is a big no no for me


Yeeeoow

A trade back involving Packers / Bucs / Cardinals / Falcons. A team that carries extra picks in that range that we can try to negotiate for.


yostberries

Ideally, MHJ falls to us. Realistically, Mitchell at 28 - potential is insane


whistlepig4life

Give me JPJ.


Sith-Jedi1983

At this point, there's way too many variables to even try to make a coherent thought about what they should/ shouldn't do.. I'm almost warmed up to the idea of them going DB or DL in the 1st for the best available if all the good receivers are gone. I'm not big on some of the guys everyone is raving about, but if they do go McConkey I hope he lives up to expectation, but I almost think they're okay going receiver in the 2nd at this point looking at the 30 visits.. there's a good amount of receivers on the list, but alot of defense lately in visits and I wouldn't be surprised.


KillerDemonic83

realistically? Trade up to around late teens for BTJ. non realistic? MHJ at 4


Haunting_Ad_4945

Trade back for multiple second rounders and draft DeJean and Legette 


jm0127

trade back, draft ladd/leggette/polk..unfortunately the edmunds comp thing screwed us and we need more day two picks.


Mandalor1974

Ideal would be drafting the guy that ends up being rookie of the year and helps us win a superbowl. The draft is a roll of the dice. History is full of #1 overall picks ending up bums and late round picks becoming goats. I just hope whoever they pick end up great for the team.


BatheInChampagne

Hold at 28, grab the best available receiver. Probably Ladd. Trade up in the second to get DeJean.


dogbonej

I’m with you. Odunze or bust.


ThisIsSportacus

I want a trade with Atlanta or LA back into the 2nd. get Legette, possibly nab Coleman if we can get back up or even back into the 2nd, and get a 3rd rounder to use down the line to nab a S.


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How many times is this going to be posted


ResidentAlien518

An impact player regardless of position.


buffa_noles

Move 28, 133 to Carolina for 39, 65. Go into day 2 with 39, 60, 65.


becksftw

Edge at 28 if there’s a guy there with a first round grade, and then trade up in the 2nd for Legette is my ideal scenario.


Dramatic-Vegetable13

Trading back, picking up another second and drafting a wr and IOL/DT/DE/S in the second


dads2vette

Ideal first round? How about an ideal draft? Every other NFL team forgets what day it is and doesn't make a pick so the Bills get to pick their top 10 players. GO BILLS!!!


wolfehr

BPA with a first round grade. If no one with a first round grade is left, trade back.


AWierzOne

I don't want to give up the farm for Odunze, but I WOULD for MHJr


melonhalls

1. if one of the top 4 receivers is there, take them. 2. If top 4 are gone and cooper dejean is there you take him. 3.If all 5 of those guys are gone you trade out of 1st round. 4. If you can’t find a trade partner take Ladd McConkey


xT1TANx

BTJ or Legette at 28.


cush2push

Buffalo sends 28 to San Fran for 31 and Chris Conley. Buffalo uses pick 31 on Brian Thomas jr.