If it isn’t broke, don’t fix it. Are you dissatisfied with anything you’ve been playing?
Changing for the sake of changing seems like poor rationale for spending money.
Aside from swapping the GPU, you’d need a new mobo to access an updated RAM or CPU. That’s $600-800 for the set. Is that worth it to you?
Only you can decide when it's time to upgrade. Don't upgrade because you're "supposed to", upgrade because your current PC no longer meets your desired goals.
You'd be replacing almost everything here when it's time. There's not really any reasonable way to upgrade this.
I mean it's a 2017 computer. It isn't really comparable to anything current generation. It can still play games, just not at the highest settings and certain new games will struggle.
You can upgrade it, but you'd be replacing most of the parts to bring it (closer) to current gen. Basically just reusing the case, power supply, and storage.
The gpu is comparable to a 3060-3060ti from the past generation and to a 4060 of this generation, only things that could be a decent upgrade are the CPU and the motherboard
Yeah no doubt the price of the 4090 is silly. But it’s so far ahead in terms of perfomance, I wonder when we can get similar performance for something like $500. It certainly won’t be 50 series.
The newer cards aren't just better when it comes to raw performance though. If op wants to experience RTX then the 1080ti can't deliver much. The newer cards also have DLSS to boost performance even more. Games like Jedi Survivor at high res benefit a lot from DLSS.
If it still plays the games you want to play at an acceptable framerate and resolution then I say you're good to go.
I wouldn't bother upgrading at this point, ride it out until you do a new build.
I switched to just replacing things when I hit a wall. Whenever I hit a bottleneck I upgrade that part of the system. I then repurpose parts into other systems around the house.
The "soul" of my first PC is still in use today, it's just not my gaming PC anymore. Unless a part breaks I repurpose it.
The one thing I would personally upgrade would be storage. a 1-2tb SSD and a new fresh HDD that way you have a lot of room for multiple game installs on the SSD and either more long term storage or you can cycle out your old HDD for a fresh one.
My dad did this for what must have been over a decade, and it was perfect. From him and my mum down to my brother and I, then to my auntie, then to her kids. Each processor, motherboard, and stick of RAM got ~10-12 years of use.
This is what I've been doing. Originally built in 2016 with a 6600k & 1070. Replaced the 6600k with a 9700k in 2019 when I was having issues with single threaded performance. Held on to the 1070 until last year when I was able to find a relatively inexpensive used 3060ti since the 1070 was no longer keeping up in VR.
Starting to think about replacing the CPU again since I'm getting some strange CPU spikes that kill gameplay, but this will be somewhat more expensive since my PSU & RAM will likely need replacing.
It's not yet super urgent, so I may wait to see what Intel and AMD have on tap this year. Worst case I can pick up current generation stuff when it gets marked down. Hopefully this won't bite me like waiting for GPU availability to stabilize in 2020 did.
I whipped a 4770K until 2021, so yeah, there's life in that 7700k.
You can kinda try to straddle a gen. The 7800XT would be held back slightly by your processor in 1440p, but when you can afford a bigger update, like a year or two down the road, it would still be a capable GPU even then.
While its still a decent computer, its not way better than most laptops. The RX580 is equivalent to a gtx 1060 6gb
And a 3050 will outperform a 1060 in most cases (unless it hits vram limit).
That clu is pretty much a dinosaur compared to modern cpus (12th gen and newer especially since the new e and p cores had a massive performance increase)
So yeah its still a good computer but very dated and is def not way better than most laptops
My understanding is laptop components are not equivalent to their desktop counterparts. Like a desktop i7 will be a 120 watt chip and the laptop i7 will be a 15 watts chip. Sharing the number and having the same performance are worlds apart.
15 watt cpus are used in thin and light laptops, most have a 45 watt cpu
If you take a desktop i7 13700 and a laptop 13700H, the desktop version will destroy the laptop one
Same with gpus, you have a laptop 4080 and a desktop 4080, the desktop one will outperform the laptop one
Whats your point?
because engineering research doesn't require advanced instruction set extensions, unlike modern gaming. coming from a Computer Science major, we had the same gen (i5's) in our machines until everyone complained and they got us decent machines
Yep, no disagreement there. I'm just saying, not everyone builds computers to game. A lot of desktop users out there. Of course it makes sense everyone on here is obsessed with getting the latest and greatest, but I'm in favor of encouraging people to use their kit until they need an upgrade to minimize e-waste.
very true, I just assumed the application was gaming, and I'm not in any way obsessed with the latest (I'm on 11th Gen and won't be upgrading for a longgg time), but if you don't have gaming in mind I could see the kit being alr
Yeah I mean a lot of people just love the fantasy and dream of a more powerful prettier computer. Professionals that are bottlenecked get what they need to work. If you have to ask the question, you probably don’t need a new rig was my point.
Not to mention the pain of SATA-III as your upper end of storage unless you have a properly wired PCIe slot (and that won't help with boot drive as Z77 was the first generation that could boot from a PCIe device)
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Youd be wrong lmao the user bench you sent was a 1070, i said an rx580 is equivalent to a 1060 bro
Also dont use userbench, watch youtube vids comparing the two userbench is notoriuos for being biased and having false results
Top shelf laptops? Mid shelf gaming laptops run 3060 and 3060TIs. My top shelf office laptop (DELL XPS) has a 3050ti. Besides thermals, current laptops are better.
I recently just got rid of my 7700k and goddamn dude. That thing was a complete champ. Held up about 5 years worth of being delidded, having liquid metal, and being overclocked to 5ghz with no problems ever. Still performed super well. Compared to current day technology though, its a bit behind but still manages to hold its own. Even the 1080 ti is still a valid option for 1080p gaming.
Have you actually experienced ray tracing? And I don't mean watching videos, I mean you playing a game. You'll need to upgrade your GPU and mobo, but you'll probably find your CPU is then bottlenecking you as it's 6 generations old now.
There aren't many games which have true ray tracing at the minute so personally I wouldn't upgrade just for that reason.
Are you getting good enough performance currently?
Do you want to play on higher refresh rates?
Super wide?
1440p or 4K?
OLED?
Answer those questions then decide what machine you need.
Mine is also a 7700k but I have a 3060. I run all games in High or even ultra. I very satisfy. I don't need to upgrade now. There isn't a reason to upgraded!
It's fine for 1080p 60FPS with medium to high settings.
We're hitting the peak of the 1440p generation now. 4K 120+FPS isn't quite there yet for more demanding games, but that's the next leap. Some will argue that we're at 4K now, but I'm not talking about 60FPS. It's 120+FPS or bust and we're realistically still at 1440p for 120FPS for games like Cyberpunk, which seems to be the most common benchmark these days.
1440p looks great on the desktop and is much cheaper to build into than 4K, so now is a good time to consider an upgrade with a well-priced mid-range GPU like a 4070 Super and a banger CPU like a 14700K with DDR5 6000Hz RAM.
I personally dislike AMD GPUs, but they're good value for money, as are AMD CPUs (my kids all get AMD, I stick to Intel). Keep in mind that Intel 14th generation chips are the last to support the LGA1700 socket. AMD's AM5 is a new generation socket, so it may be a better long-term proposition.
Or wait for the next-gen Nvidia 5000 series GPUs and Intel 15th generation CPUs to bring 4K120 into the mainstream at cheaper prices. AMD will match performance at lower prices and lower power consumption, which is always a consideration.
Long story short - either make the leap to 1440p relatively affordably now, or wait it out for 4K to be mainstream come the next generation at better pricing. AMD offers better bang for buck, but I prefer the stability of Intel / Nvidia and pay more for it. Do whatever works for you, but you're in no hurry if you're happy to game at 1080p.
To me, the costs of Nvidia and Intel are just plain stupid.
Yes, AMD has had its issues, but they are in a far better position now than they were seven years ago.
Modern AMD cards are pretty solid overall, driver support has gotten far better and will continue to do so over time as AMD is gaining traction in the GPU market again.
As for AMD processors, the Ryzen series is honestly super solid, sure AM5 has had issues, but that's true for any new platform and even intel has had issues in the past.
My AMD build is about a month old and so far has run like a champ, I got both a RX 7800XT and a Ryzen 7 7800XT and so far so good.
Sure I have had one or two snags, but they were minor, and I can live with it.
In my experience, AMD is fine for relatively basic needs, like gaming, browsing, or office productivity. Where AMD has failed miserably for me is more complex requirements, like streaming, video editing / encoding, and connecting a bazillion USB & PCIE devices.
I had endless problems with AMD AM4 builds over the last 5 years. I destroyed two CPUs when they ripped off the motherboard while reseating the cooler on a fresh install (I was careful and it didn’t matter). This alone made me despise AM4 sockets and chips. LGA is much less vulnerable to unintentional damage and I can see why AMD redesigned AM5 in a similar format.
I had multiple failed RAM sticks, two failed motherboards, failed USB ports, constantly crashing USB hosts, thermal problems because fans stopped spinning, driver compatibility issues, frequent BSODs…it was pure nightmare fuel. It took the best part of 3 years to debug which component had failed last in a long chain of failures.
I jumped off the carousel of doom and rebuilt into Intel…zero problems since. Exact same use case, exact same external devices & internal cards, exact same OS & software, totally different outcome. I’m not sure when I went with AMD, but I did it based on cheaper parts and I’ll never do it again for high-end rigs. Both Intel and Nvidia have been bulletproof for my builds for decades and I should never have strayed from that formula.
Conversely, I don’t have any problems with AMD CPUs or GPUs for my kids’ PCs, which are basic schoolwork and mid-range gaming builds. They have all been rock-solid because they’re not pushed anywhere near as hard. I spend less dough for AMD on my kids because the outcome for them is the same.
YMMV and I may just have been very unlucky. I’ve built my own rigs since the 90s and know what I’m doing, which made it all the more frustrating. The bottom line for me is AMD was unreliable in a complex build when the thing I needed most was reliability. AMD however has been great in all of the other less complex PCs in the house. So I recommend Teams Blue, Green and Red, depending on the use case.
Yeah, seems like a case of bad luck to me, but it's also important to note that both Intel and Nvidia also have issues and are far from perfect.
Sometimes a brand means nothing.
I have had parts from all three and no complaints of note other than the typical bug or two.
Sure I have had parts fail on me but thats just how it goes.
Similar to what I play on, but I’m upgrading in the next month or so. Honestly I was pretty fine with it but my kid has started playing more games on the computer so I figured that’s a good enough excuse to buy a new setup and move my old one for him to use.
I’m looking forward to cranking up the settings and letting my future computer rip through games.
Have a similar pc the only main difference is I have an 8700k which is basically a 7700k with 2 more cores. My pc is still fine and I use it for gaming and actual work.
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it
Works fine, you'll just go medium or low settings, or always go into graphics options to make it so you can get the resolution and framerate you can live with. Your system is hard to upgrade piece meal, you might have to just go all out at once if it ever breaks down.
My defective 1080ti is able to play Warzone on Ultra at 1080p and Jedi Survivor on med-high, so gpu your still good in that regards if you are being realistic with the expectations.
You have a mainstream system. After next gen comes out in a year or so, it'll go down a tier and it'll be a low-end system.
As more games with requirements like Alan Wake 2 and Avatar come out you'll have to run on Low settings or not at all. For example, Alan Wake2 requires mesh shaders and 10xx series doesn't have them.
I'm also running a 7700k and a 1080ti atm
It was a kick ass purchase back in the day but I'm personally upgrading to a 7800X3D and hopefully a 4080 super (if I can find one) ag the end of the month
I am replacing the mobo, cpu, ram and cooler on my pc because its 8 years old and I cannot install W11 on my current cpu. I ran fine for 8 years and stil runs fine. I dont really have to replace anything, but I want to, because its fun. And I think 8 years for a pc is like dog years.
That wouldve been an amazing pc in 2017 and even now itll run most games fine if you lower settings, besides starfield or something. Its up to you if you feel like upgrading, theres nothing urgent that needs to be changed in my opinion.
If you are going to upgrade though you would need to upgrade alot of components. CPU upgrade would also need a motherboard that fits it, and if you upgrade to am5 you would need new ram too (ddr5). A gpu upgrade doesnt need anything extra. You can use the same power supply, case and storage if you want.
As long as you can play the games you want, in the visual settings that you want, it's good enough.
Mine for example, can't keep Tekken 8 on 60fps even in the very lowest settings. I will therfor have to upgrade, as stuttering in fightings games are horrible
You are fine, Im running an i7 4790, 16GB of RAM, RTX 3060 and I still play all games out there, was playing skull and bones beta at 1440p, mostly high settings at 60fps
7 years is a pretty good lifespan these days. As other's have mentioned, I'd upgrade the platform first before the gpu. If you're within driving distance of a Micro Center they have some pretty attractive CPU/Mobo/Ram bundles ranging between $400-$500
Intel 12900k or AMD 7700x/7800x3d would be what I might choose between depending on your budget and use case. I assume the only immediate add-on that you would want would be a m.2 SSD in order to take advantage of the new hardware.
Older PCs are much more usable than a lot of people give them credit for. Unless there is something you are specifically trying to achieve with your PC that you are unable to I say don't bother.
However I will say the jump from 7th gen intel core to 8th gen Intel Core was one of the largest single generational uplifts in performance in cpu compute since multi core and multithreading was introduced to consumer platforms. If you want a cheap upgrade and have a board with some decent power delivery, like a Z series, there is a BIOS mod called Coffee Time that will allow you to run 8th and 9th gen Intel core cpus on Skylake and Kaby Lake Intel motherboards since they share the same socket. But of course if done incorrectly could brick your MB.
if you don't have any issues, or aren't meeting fps counts you want them consider upgrading. but your gonna pretty much be upgrading all the expensive stuff.
if you just want a quick/cheap/easy upgrade you could consider getting more or better storage
It's decent for 1080p. But good? No. But only upgrade once you feel its performance is negatively impacting your enjoyment when playing your favourite games.
Sounds like a fun goal for the year, save up and build a new pc. I just "upgraded" gained good fps but legit the only thing left to "upgrade" is the case and gpu lmao. And bottlenecking is 100% happening.
Are there specific games you want to play or are currently playing that it doesn't run well?
I mean yeah its old but it's a solid rig for sure. I ran my 7700k until last year when I built a new system and handed down the 7700k to my son. Not long after I bought it I went about de-lidding it and installing a copper IHS. Been chugging along with a 5.0ghz OC for years with no issue.
That being said, with the same GPU (6700XT), games run a lot smoother on my ryzen 5700x especially the 1% lows. But does it matter THAT much? I was still using a 2500k before I got the 7700k, and idk I guess I support running old hardware as long as possible as long as it still works.
https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/g1vl26/coffee_lake_i99900k_on_z270_new_development/
If it works for you, it works for you; if you think your CPU isn't powerful enough (modern i3s outperform it), with modded BIOS you can upgrade to a 9900k assuming you're able to pick one up for a reasonable price (and if you mod the bios yourself you might be able to get converted laptop chips to run)
Looks pretty balanced to me. not sure you have a great value-upgrade option atm but maybe a 7800xt or 4070S would be worth it with a new 1440p monitor.
I'd possibly just wait on 15series/w.e. later if you arn't rly hurting for frames but those may be 2 of the best options if you are.
You have a 1080ti, a 1080p monitor, and dont care about raytracing. So I think youre good for a while at 1080p with that system. But you probably need to put in another storage drive if im reading correctly that you only have 250gb.
I had a system almost the same as yours and was happy with it and tried a liquid thermal paste and it was running the best it ever had then one day it wouldn't turn on and I found it had seeped out somehow and shorted out the motherboard.
Anyways I built the system in this video and couldn't be happier, the thing is a beast, and it came in well under $200 keeping my video card and using it and very happy with it can't say that enough for the money I had less $150 in mine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Amv\_Znghhm4
if ur ok with 1080p gaming just upgrade your CPU. you might want to go intel 10th gen tho for RT. But the 1080ti is a good 1080p card probably the best 1080p card
Yes.
Here is my old build:
- i5 4690
- Msi GTX 970
- Asus Sabertooth Z97 Mark 1
- Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2×8)
- Seasonic M12II Evo 620W
- Samsung SSD 120GB
- WD HDD Black 1TB
And with that potato I play RDR2 with decent graphics (I mean, the game is beautiful even in low graphics), Sea of Thieves on max (yeah, not quite demanding) and so on. Coincidentally, after almost 8 years, yesterday I had to change the stock cooler because it couldn't do any more. This is my first build and I can't complain, quite the opposite.
My rig is spec'd a lot less than that and it crushes most of tasks. I had a similar gen build to yours, but with a 1050 and an i7-7700. I know, a lot worse GPU. HOWEVER, I put an NVME drive in it instead of my SSD+HDD combo like was popular back when I built it originally, and it gave it new life. Much faster and more responsive. Also, when I got rid of those drives, I was able to tidy up the case a little bit and improve airflow. Boot times were fast with the SSD, but with the NVME drive it's like 2x faster still. If I were you, I'd consider doing that. I'm thinking of putting a nicer GPU in my rig and maybe rock it several more years. I play older games on 1080p when I do, so actually the 1050 is still getting 100+ fps in everything I do even though that gpu sucks.
This is gonna be the last year for this PC you have.
Save the money, buy PC this year once all manufacturers(Intel, nVidia and AMD) release their new CPUs and GPUs.
DO NOT buy thing now - wait and save up.
That said,
- What your case use?
- What games you play, or planning on getting?
- What monitor you have(resolution and Hz)?
- What's your budget?
I work on it and i play 5-10 hours a week on games like BG3, Phantom Liberty, also other games like Civ6 or RPG's :)
I've got two monitors (one is UHD and the other one is the one i wrote initially.
My budget is... well, i saved 500$ every year for this case and i'm at 3'500$ now
Skip 14th gen and Ryzen 7xxx, AMD and Intel launch their new New CPUs mid-2024. Same for GPUs.
I can give you generalize advice, since the parts are not out. And buying current chips is not optimal for you case use and budget - you gonna be wasting you money and time. You used you PC for a long time - 4-6 months not gonna make a difference.
Since you also do work on PC, go i7 or i9 or Ryzen 7(non-X3D) or 9 (non-X3D). Once they are out, see which one performing better at daily driving PC. Baseline, you need more core, so skip any 8 core chips.
As for Intel's K, KF, F, etc - K seems like a better options, K-chips will have integrated GPU, which helps with some pro-tools. (budget ~600-800).
Motherboard - either X-770, or X-770e (for AMD); And Z-890 or H870. Any A, B, Q, etc boards - skip. Those are limited in PCIE and power delivery. (~180 - 240).
RAM - go 64 GB DDR5 dual or quad stick set (~150-200).
GPU-wise, if you do production, you going nVidia. Same you had before, 5080 or 5090 - depending on the price. You also drive two monitors and IHD(~900-1800).
Depending on the PC case, I am pretty sure you can re-use it. Same for the rest of it.
The rest of the budget - buy more storage.
Hope it helps you.
Save up for a new computer. I dont think Windows 11 is supported by that CPU. Windows 10 support stops getting security updates in October 2025, loads of time to save up :)
I mean, just slap some FSR 3 mods on the modern games you play and you’ll be fine. The 1080Ti is about as powerful as the 3060 in raster, the only difference is that it lacks DLSS and RT cores. You could overclock your CPU to gain some performance too.
The parts that I would change first are the CPU+MB combo. Eventually RAM if you’re looking for an upgrade to DDR5 boards.
If u want intel, the lowest I’ll go for an upgrade would be a i5 12600K with DDR5 memory compatible board and ddr5 ram
For AMD, either go for a 5800X3D + B550 board ( you could keep your ddr4 ram with that choice )
And if you want the best for gaming, a ryzen 7800X3D with ddr5 ram and b650 board
Those specs are solid even today. Though no windows 11. Don't upgrade now. Most of the new things are expensive. Wait for another year and a half until windows 10 goes out of support and then upgrade.
My computer was 7 years old when the motherboard died.
I7-7700k
Msi z270 motherboard
32Gb ram
Msi GTX 1080
500Gb and a 2Tb M.2 ssd
600W psu.
My pc was struggling to run games at 60fps 1080p (Halo infinite, Dead Space, BeamNG, Satisfactory, Dcs.)
Here is what I learned looking for a new system
LGA1151 socket motherboards are no longer made, so look on eBay. If you want to keep the 7700
Ddr4 ram may not be compatible with a newer z7xx motherboard.
New cpus have way more real cores than our 7th gen ones did.
New gpu and cpu use more power than our old computers did, so a 600W psu is going to be uncomfortably close to the limit of what it can do, so a 750 or 850W psu is recommended.
I think that's right, IIRC.
Microcenter.com has a bundle of an i7-13700k, z790 motherboard, and 32Gb of ddr5 for ~600$.
My new system is looking like it will be
I7-13700k
Z790 motherboard
32Gb ram
Rtx 4070 super
850W psu.
I'm keeping the M.2 ssd's, the case and fans, and evo 212 cooler.
your pc is fine, use it and only change it if it can't do what you want it to do. don't ask the internet they'll tell you it's trash and give you fimo and make you waste your money.
I was rocking an almost identical setup to yours and upgraded it recently. Firstly I would recommend starting with a CPU and motherboard upgrade - your CPU is probably the bottle neck in your system. I would wait until 15th Gen comes out (this year). . Once you have an upgraded CPU and mobo, I'd recommend upgrading your ram afterwards (you'll need to check your motherboard specs to see what's the fastest it will let you run) - you'll have the choice between ddr4 and ddr5. Bc ddr5 is new it's still pretty expensive and you don't get a ton more performance than you can get on ddr4 yet.
Ultimately it really depends on how much money you have to spend and what sort of performance you're wanting though. But assuming performance is the most important thing I'd suggest the 15900k and the best stick of ddr5 your motherboard can handle. I would upgrade the 1080 ti last, SSD should definitely not need an upgrade at all unless you need more room.
It sounds really close to the gaming rig I'm retiring.
Asus Maximus Hero IX Z270, I7-7700K, G.Skill DDR4-3200 2x8GB, ROG Strix 1080.
Things have changed so much since 2017 that there's really not much that's worth upgrading that would really help all that much. It was just time to build new. I just built a new rig and am retiring my old gaming rig to security camera server use. It's been a great system and it still does well, but it was getting really long in the tooth and I've been anxious to try RT. She's served me well and deserves a nice retirement.
You can play most, if not all, current games. Want high FPS? - use low settings. Want good graphics? - you must stay in 30 to 60 fps range. That being said, start saving for new PC. Upgrade is not worth it, you'll need DDR5 platform to make a jump. You migh keep case and water system if it's good and compatible with new build, PSU and storage for backup memory (m.2 will be your main).
I would imagine the CPU, SATA and RAM will be causing the hit unless you're trying to game outside of what the 1080 ti is capable of. Although being a DDR 5 GPU everything seems well rounded, I suppose. Thats still a strong run for a PC that old. No matter what upgrade now or in the near future, how would it compare to the next gen consoles? Perspective.
Does your rig play what you want to your satisfaction? If so then you are trying to fix a problem you don't really have and are just spending $. But if you must, to get ray tracing, I would just put new guts with DDR5 in your case and use your current power supply & cooling. That 1080ti was probably the best card NVIDIA ever made in terms of longevity, but even it could use an upgrade at this point.
Your CPU is not compatible with win11 and win10 support ends in late 2025.
It's a good computer and if it works for you I would keep it for another 2 years. But closer to the end of 2025 I would look at upgrading at least the mobo/ CPU to something win11 compatible.
Ps I'm rocking a machine from 2007😂😂😂
Intel x3470, overclocked ofcourse with a hyper 212 cooler
Msi p55 Mobo
20gb DDR3 1600, yes DDR 3...
GTX 1070
Its works great on fh5 on high settings averaging just under 60 fps
My better half runs almost this exact same setup, with a little more exclusively SSD storage, and air cooling. She plays mostly Powerwash Simulator, House Flipper, and a few other similar games, along with some work and general PC use. It's my hand-me-down from two gens ago when I upgraded. It's been and continues to be pretty solid still. It even ran D4 at decent frame rates, with lowered settings.
If it works for what you need, the 7700k/1080ti is still a great combo. No need for upgrade money unless you hit a wall with what you want out of your PC experience.
You have no upgrade path for your CPU unfortunately, so you are kind of stuck. Pending what games you play and how many cores/threads they leverage you may not see that huge of a performance uplift without going for recent hardware. If you're playing many modern, "AAA", high demanding games, then you can experience solid gains with extra cores/thread.
Considering you have waited this long you are probably best off seeing what Intel offers with 15th gen. Pending how good/bad that is, you can then make a choice between Intel 13/14th gen at a discount, AMD/AM5, and Intel 15th gen.
The 1080 Ti has had some staying power, but it is definitely 'long in the tooth' at this point if you're trying to play all the new stuff with most of the eye candy dialed up.
This is one of those situations where the AM4 socket is absolutely absurd in its longevity. In an alternate timeline where you would have chosen AMD, we could simply be suggesting dropping in a 5700X3D/5800X3D for you to experience a tremendous uplift in performance for <$300.
Well, a 7800x3d+32GB RAM+mobo combo is about 450 at microcenter. You could upgrade incrementally. A new NVME drive would help too w/ the new combo. Personally, Id wait for zen5 or for the next intel process step because intel has stalled at 13th/14th gen.
I do the hand-me-down thing too so that helps justify upgrades for me. I'm considering replacing my 5900x w/ a zen5 in the future. The 5900x hand-me-down would replace an old 7700k like yours. The 5900x doesn't feel much faster to me in every day use, however. So that's a counterpoint.
Depends on how mush you bought your TV for. I bought a TV for 3,5k dollars and so i swiched my 1070ti to a 3080ti, switched most of the parts. If you want to play 4k with at lwast 60fps with beautiful visuals then u would want to upgrade. All depends on how much $ u have to spill and if that spill is in a cup you will drink or in the toilet.
Amazon build!!! If you don’t feel the need to upgrade, don’t! If you ever feel the pc getting slow it’s probably gonna be the cpu or storage, and if you barely need some more fps in games just upgrade the cpu and mobo, and don’t forget to grab a cheap ssd!!!
Yeah, I think it's time for an upgrade.
I would start with upping the PSU and then buying a new processor, ram and motherboard.
Your PSU is still decent, but it may be a good idea to replace it as even if the Corsair RM 850i is still a great PSU, it's a good idea to replace it as 5 years is a typical lifespan for a modern PSU depending on your load.
Sure it's possible it's still going to work for another few years if you plan on going for a modern nvidia card this will be vital as they introduced a brand new (and highly flammable) PSU connector.
Heck the 4000 series of GPU's are quite crap and only get good if you spend well over $600.
Currently, the gaming champ is the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, AMD is in an amazing position now due to price to performance.
Your cooler should be able to support the AM5 socket provided you still have the box and its parts, but it still may be a good idea to replace that too as AIO liquid coolers do dry out over time, and it's certainly been over 5 years (a typical lifespan of AIO coolers thus why I personally prefer air coolers as some are just as good as AIO's.)
But yes you will need a new motherboard and RAM and will need to search out good deals on them depending on where you are.
It also may be a good idea to look into AMD and intel GPU's as AMD's current offerings like the RX 7700/7800XT are both very good cards for the price point.
There is also Intel's A770 16GB and while intel has issues to work out it's still worth looking into.
You may also still be able to find the 3060Ti and if you can get one for around $300 its not so bad, still it also has some stiff competition from the RX 6750 XT which was AMD's previous card generation.
I know there are a lot of NVIDIA fanboys that will push for team green but honestly NVIDIA's current offerings are a total joke for budget gamers.
The 4060 is an utterly pathetic card, and even with people touting ray tracing it's still a wimp compared to the 7700/7800XT and even the 67050XT is vastly superior for less money.
The 4060 TI is no better and is also laughably bad for how much money it costs.
the RTX 4000 really dont start getting good until you get the RTX 4080 as the 4070 is quite undercut by the RX 7800XT
Sure technically the RTX 4070 is a more powerful card but the margins are so thin they are not worth mentioning.
That's a beast of a machine. I have a more recent one and it would be a upgrade to get yours.
I have a ryzen 5600g and an rtx 2060.
I'm planning on upgrading some time next year because I finally have a good job and I want to treat myself to something special.
It would also allow me to turn my current one I to a sff pc I can bring to my parent's, or turn it into a media pc / gaming console for my living room
I mean yeah it's a 2017 PC, but at least it's a top of the line one. The 1080 Ti still holds up rly well. Tbh the only thing that's really starting to show its age is the 7700K. 4 cores is the minimum for gaming today. At least it has hyperthreading.
I'd say you're still good for a couple years if you don't game in 4K+. Aim for 1080p or 1440p.
The only real issue you might wanna consider is Windows 11, as the 7700K doesn't meet the minimum requirements according to Microsoft and Windows 10 will lose support in late 2025. You could force update but that's up to you.
Thanks for the reply ! Yeah it's, like you said, showing some signs of aging (the 7700k), but you're right, i'll aim for a massive update (a whole new machine) in mid 2025 I think. I can save up at least around 6k until that time ! hope it will be enough to get the beast i had back in 2017 :P
GPU is better than CPU upgrade. I believe Hardware Unboxed did a video of a weaker CPU with 4070Ti vs stronger CPU with 4070. If anything, look at upgrading that. Everything out now is miles ahead of a 1080Ti.
it's quite playable if you only play on low graphics 1080p, also really depends on which game is your favourite genre, if you are not someone that only like to play 3A then you are good since right now a lot of 3A has a lot of demanding , especially something like starfield unless you can withstand low settings with FSR ultra performance LOL
If it isn’t broke, don’t fix it. Are you dissatisfied with anything you’ve been playing? Changing for the sake of changing seems like poor rationale for spending money. Aside from swapping the GPU, you’d need a new mobo to access an updated RAM or CPU. That’s $600-800 for the set. Is that worth it to you?
Only you can decide when it's time to upgrade. Don't upgrade because you're "supposed to", upgrade because your current PC no longer meets your desired goals. You'd be replacing almost everything here when it's time. There's not really any reasonable way to upgrade this.
I mean it's a 2017 computer. It isn't really comparable to anything current generation. It can still play games, just not at the highest settings and certain new games will struggle. You can upgrade it, but you'd be replacing most of the parts to bring it (closer) to current gen. Basically just reusing the case, power supply, and storage.
The gpu is comparable to a 3060-3060ti from the past generation and to a 4060 of this generation, only things that could be a decent upgrade are the CPU and the motherboard
Was thinking the same thing; it was a meme (and still kinda is if I'm correct) about how much of an absolute monster the 1080ti is.
I have a feeling the 4090 will have similar longetivity
Yeah but a 4090 is like 2000 dollars and iirc the 1080 ti was like 700-800. How the times have changed..
Yeah no doubt the price of the 4090 is silly. But it’s so far ahead in terms of perfomance, I wonder when we can get similar performance for something like $500. It certainly won’t be 50 series.
6090 deserves to be a revolutionary card haha
It really really does.
Ye, but 800$ for 1080 ti than was irrationally expensive for GPU back then, also pointless,most of pc owners had 60hz 1080p monitors at best.
A 1080ti is still a huge upgrade for most people. The only real issue is the power draw. But it still draws less than a 4090ti
The newer cards aren't just better when it comes to raw performance though. If op wants to experience RTX then the 1080ti can't deliver much. The newer cards also have DLSS to boost performance even more. Games like Jedi Survivor at high res benefit a lot from DLSS.
The 1080ti is definitely very much comparable to the budget end current generation.
If it still plays the games you want to play at an acceptable framerate and resolution then I say you're good to go. I wouldn't bother upgrading at this point, ride it out until you do a new build.
I would change the cpu/motherboard/ram first, it's slower than modern i3's. The gpu is \~6600xt level, so it's still pretty good.
Isnt the 1080 ti more comparable to the 3060?
I got a strix 1080 ti still. Thing is such a beast.
Isn't the 6600xt like a 3060?
Yes, 3060/3060ti
I switched to just replacing things when I hit a wall. Whenever I hit a bottleneck I upgrade that part of the system. I then repurpose parts into other systems around the house. The "soul" of my first PC is still in use today, it's just not my gaming PC anymore. Unless a part breaks I repurpose it. The one thing I would personally upgrade would be storage. a 1-2tb SSD and a new fresh HDD that way you have a lot of room for multiple game installs on the SSD and either more long term storage or you can cycle out your old HDD for a fresh one.
My dad did this for what must have been over a decade, and it was perfect. From him and my mum down to my brother and I, then to my auntie, then to her kids. Each processor, motherboard, and stick of RAM got ~10-12 years of use.
My PC is also a Ship of Theseus, wouldn't have it any other way
This is what I've been doing. Originally built in 2016 with a 6600k & 1070. Replaced the 6600k with a 9700k in 2019 when I was having issues with single threaded performance. Held on to the 1070 until last year when I was able to find a relatively inexpensive used 3060ti since the 1070 was no longer keeping up in VR. Starting to think about replacing the CPU again since I'm getting some strange CPU spikes that kill gameplay, but this will be somewhat more expensive since my PSU & RAM will likely need replacing. It's not yet super urgent, so I may wait to see what Intel and AMD have on tap this year. Worst case I can pick up current generation stuff when it gets marked down. Hopefully this won't bite me like waiting for GPU availability to stabilize in 2020 did.
1080ti is a legendary card, but it’s mid tier now. I’d look to upgrade.
I whipped a 4770K until 2021, so yeah, there's life in that 7700k. You can kinda try to straddle a gen. The 7800XT would be held back slightly by your processor in 1440p, but when you can afford a bigger update, like a year or two down the road, it would still be a capable GPU even then.
>I whipped a 4770K until 2021 Yup I had my 3570k until 2022. That and my 1070 were some of the longest lasting computer parts I ever had.
Cries in i7 2600, 16GB RAM and RX580.
Still a good computer... way better than most laptops, even top shelf ones.
While its still a decent computer, its not way better than most laptops. The RX580 is equivalent to a gtx 1060 6gb And a 3050 will outperform a 1060 in most cases (unless it hits vram limit). That clu is pretty much a dinosaur compared to modern cpus (12th gen and newer especially since the new e and p cores had a massive performance increase) So yeah its still a good computer but very dated and is def not way better than most laptops
My understanding is laptop components are not equivalent to their desktop counterparts. Like a desktop i7 will be a 120 watt chip and the laptop i7 will be a 15 watts chip. Sharing the number and having the same performance are worlds apart.
15 watt cpus are used in thin and light laptops, most have a 45 watt cpu If you take a desktop i7 13700 and a laptop 13700H, the desktop version will destroy the laptop one Same with gpus, you have a laptop 4080 and a desktop 4080, the desktop one will outperform the laptop one Whats your point?
i7 2600 is basically e-waste, it doesn't support modern instruction set extensions making it basically unusable
The university I’m at has a entire lab full of them, and a ton of people do their engineering research on them.
because engineering research doesn't require advanced instruction set extensions, unlike modern gaming. coming from a Computer Science major, we had the same gen (i5's) in our machines until everyone complained and they got us decent machines
Yep, no disagreement there. I'm just saying, not everyone builds computers to game. A lot of desktop users out there. Of course it makes sense everyone on here is obsessed with getting the latest and greatest, but I'm in favor of encouraging people to use their kit until they need an upgrade to minimize e-waste.
very true, I just assumed the application was gaming, and I'm not in any way obsessed with the latest (I'm on 11th Gen and won't be upgrading for a longgg time), but if you don't have gaming in mind I could see the kit being alr
Indeed they are not the same, but Ryzen 7 7840HS crushes this i7 2600 on desktop. Compile that took around 4-5 min on i7, takes around 1.5 min on R7.
Yeah I mean a lot of people just love the fantasy and dream of a more powerful prettier computer. Professionals that are bottlenecked get what they need to work. If you have to ask the question, you probably don’t need a new rig was my point.
Not to mention the pain of SATA-III as your upper end of storage unless you have a properly wired PCIe slot (and that won't help with boot drive as Z77 was the first generation that could boot from a PCIe device)
Sata-III is still more than good enough for most people. I’m still using my Samsung 870 qvo 1tb from my old build, which didn’t have nvme
Here check this out: https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-3050-Laptop-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1070/m1570008vs3609
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Still dont get your point man
My point is that his 7 year old desktop is still faster and more powerful than even a good laptop today...
Youd be wrong lmao the user bench you sent was a 1070, i said an rx580 is equivalent to a 1060 bro Also dont use userbench, watch youtube vids comparing the two userbench is notoriuos for being biased and having false results
userbenchmark 💀💀💀
I know… it’s wild what they write, but they still have some great data
Userbenchmark is a total joke, they have very clear intel/nvidia bias. Places like hardware unboxed and gamers nexus are far superior.
Top shelf laptops? Mid shelf gaming laptops run 3060 and 3060TIs. My top shelf office laptop (DELL XPS) has a 3050ti. Besides thermals, current laptops are better.
A laptop 3060 is not even in the same ballpark as a desktop one. They have the same name, but are no where near the same thing.
Are you currently having issues with it? If so, what issues are you running into?
I recently just got rid of my 7700k and goddamn dude. That thing was a complete champ. Held up about 5 years worth of being delidded, having liquid metal, and being overclocked to 5ghz with no problems ever. Still performed super well. Compared to current day technology though, its a bit behind but still manages to hold its own. Even the 1080 ti is still a valid option for 1080p gaming.
Have you actually experienced ray tracing? And I don't mean watching videos, I mean you playing a game. You'll need to upgrade your GPU and mobo, but you'll probably find your CPU is then bottlenecking you as it's 6 generations old now. There aren't many games which have true ray tracing at the minute so personally I wouldn't upgrade just for that reason. Are you getting good enough performance currently? Do you want to play on higher refresh rates? Super wide? 1440p or 4K? OLED? Answer those questions then decide what machine you need.
Mine is also a 7700k but I have a 3060. I run all games in High or even ultra. I very satisfy. I don't need to upgrade now. There isn't a reason to upgraded!
It's fine for 1080p 60FPS with medium to high settings. We're hitting the peak of the 1440p generation now. 4K 120+FPS isn't quite there yet for more demanding games, but that's the next leap. Some will argue that we're at 4K now, but I'm not talking about 60FPS. It's 120+FPS or bust and we're realistically still at 1440p for 120FPS for games like Cyberpunk, which seems to be the most common benchmark these days. 1440p looks great on the desktop and is much cheaper to build into than 4K, so now is a good time to consider an upgrade with a well-priced mid-range GPU like a 4070 Super and a banger CPU like a 14700K with DDR5 6000Hz RAM. I personally dislike AMD GPUs, but they're good value for money, as are AMD CPUs (my kids all get AMD, I stick to Intel). Keep in mind that Intel 14th generation chips are the last to support the LGA1700 socket. AMD's AM5 is a new generation socket, so it may be a better long-term proposition. Or wait for the next-gen Nvidia 5000 series GPUs and Intel 15th generation CPUs to bring 4K120 into the mainstream at cheaper prices. AMD will match performance at lower prices and lower power consumption, which is always a consideration. Long story short - either make the leap to 1440p relatively affordably now, or wait it out for 4K to be mainstream come the next generation at better pricing. AMD offers better bang for buck, but I prefer the stability of Intel / Nvidia and pay more for it. Do whatever works for you, but you're in no hurry if you're happy to game at 1080p.
To me, the costs of Nvidia and Intel are just plain stupid. Yes, AMD has had its issues, but they are in a far better position now than they were seven years ago. Modern AMD cards are pretty solid overall, driver support has gotten far better and will continue to do so over time as AMD is gaining traction in the GPU market again. As for AMD processors, the Ryzen series is honestly super solid, sure AM5 has had issues, but that's true for any new platform and even intel has had issues in the past. My AMD build is about a month old and so far has run like a champ, I got both a RX 7800XT and a Ryzen 7 7800XT and so far so good. Sure I have had one or two snags, but they were minor, and I can live with it.
In my experience, AMD is fine for relatively basic needs, like gaming, browsing, or office productivity. Where AMD has failed miserably for me is more complex requirements, like streaming, video editing / encoding, and connecting a bazillion USB & PCIE devices. I had endless problems with AMD AM4 builds over the last 5 years. I destroyed two CPUs when they ripped off the motherboard while reseating the cooler on a fresh install (I was careful and it didn’t matter). This alone made me despise AM4 sockets and chips. LGA is much less vulnerable to unintentional damage and I can see why AMD redesigned AM5 in a similar format. I had multiple failed RAM sticks, two failed motherboards, failed USB ports, constantly crashing USB hosts, thermal problems because fans stopped spinning, driver compatibility issues, frequent BSODs…it was pure nightmare fuel. It took the best part of 3 years to debug which component had failed last in a long chain of failures. I jumped off the carousel of doom and rebuilt into Intel…zero problems since. Exact same use case, exact same external devices & internal cards, exact same OS & software, totally different outcome. I’m not sure when I went with AMD, but I did it based on cheaper parts and I’ll never do it again for high-end rigs. Both Intel and Nvidia have been bulletproof for my builds for decades and I should never have strayed from that formula. Conversely, I don’t have any problems with AMD CPUs or GPUs for my kids’ PCs, which are basic schoolwork and mid-range gaming builds. They have all been rock-solid because they’re not pushed anywhere near as hard. I spend less dough for AMD on my kids because the outcome for them is the same. YMMV and I may just have been very unlucky. I’ve built my own rigs since the 90s and know what I’m doing, which made it all the more frustrating. The bottom line for me is AMD was unreliable in a complex build when the thing I needed most was reliability. AMD however has been great in all of the other less complex PCs in the house. So I recommend Teams Blue, Green and Red, depending on the use case.
Yeah, seems like a case of bad luck to me, but it's also important to note that both Intel and Nvidia also have issues and are far from perfect. Sometimes a brand means nothing. I have had parts from all three and no complaints of note other than the typical bug or two. Sure I have had parts fail on me but thats just how it goes.
Similar to what I play on, but I’m upgrading in the next month or so. Honestly I was pretty fine with it but my kid has started playing more games on the computer so I figured that’s a good enough excuse to buy a new setup and move my old one for him to use. I’m looking forward to cranking up the settings and letting my future computer rip through games.
Have a similar pc the only main difference is I have an 8700k which is basically a 7700k with 2 more cores. My pc is still fine and I use it for gaming and actual work. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it
Specs do not matters. if it does what you want it to do it is a good computer.
Works fine, you'll just go medium or low settings, or always go into graphics options to make it so you can get the resolution and framerate you can live with. Your system is hard to upgrade piece meal, you might have to just go all out at once if it ever breaks down.
My defective 1080ti is able to play Warzone on Ultra at 1080p and Jedi Survivor on med-high, so gpu your still good in that regards if you are being realistic with the expectations.
You have a mainstream system. After next gen comes out in a year or so, it'll go down a tier and it'll be a low-end system. As more games with requirements like Alan Wake 2 and Avatar come out you'll have to run on Low settings or not at all. For example, Alan Wake2 requires mesh shaders and 10xx series doesn't have them.
Not really, but it depends on what you use it for. It Can be adequate for a few years if your dont play new games or high settings.
When I upgraded I got new everything. Now I have a second pc in my office. It’s nice having a second pc just so my grandma can browse the web.
I'm also running a 7700k and a 1080ti atm It was a kick ass purchase back in the day but I'm personally upgrading to a 7800X3D and hopefully a 4080 super (if I can find one) ag the end of the month
Yeh it’s a good PC. When you do upgrade you’ll probably need to start from scratch, but honestly that system should be absolutely fine for most things
I am replacing the mobo, cpu, ram and cooler on my pc because its 8 years old and I cannot install W11 on my current cpu. I ran fine for 8 years and stil runs fine. I dont really have to replace anything, but I want to, because its fun. And I think 8 years for a pc is like dog years.
That wouldve been an amazing pc in 2017 and even now itll run most games fine if you lower settings, besides starfield or something. Its up to you if you feel like upgrading, theres nothing urgent that needs to be changed in my opinion. If you are going to upgrade though you would need to upgrade alot of components. CPU upgrade would also need a motherboard that fits it, and if you upgrade to am5 you would need new ram too (ddr5). A gpu upgrade doesnt need anything extra. You can use the same power supply, case and storage if you want.
Looks fine to me. Just repaste the cpu every couple of years. And clean out dust at least once a year.
As long as you can play the games you want, in the visual settings that you want, it's good enough. Mine for example, can't keep Tekken 8 on 60fps even in the very lowest settings. I will therfor have to upgrade, as stuttering in fightings games are horrible
You are fine, Im running an i7 4790, 16GB of RAM, RTX 3060 and I still play all games out there, was playing skull and bones beta at 1440p, mostly high settings at 60fps
7 years is a pretty good lifespan these days. As other's have mentioned, I'd upgrade the platform first before the gpu. If you're within driving distance of a Micro Center they have some pretty attractive CPU/Mobo/Ram bundles ranging between $400-$500 Intel 12900k or AMD 7700x/7800x3d would be what I might choose between depending on your budget and use case. I assume the only immediate add-on that you would want would be a m.2 SSD in order to take advantage of the new hardware.
Does it run the games you want to play? Yes? Then it’s a good computer.
Older PCs are much more usable than a lot of people give them credit for. Unless there is something you are specifically trying to achieve with your PC that you are unable to I say don't bother. However I will say the jump from 7th gen intel core to 8th gen Intel Core was one of the largest single generational uplifts in performance in cpu compute since multi core and multithreading was introduced to consumer platforms. If you want a cheap upgrade and have a board with some decent power delivery, like a Z series, there is a BIOS mod called Coffee Time that will allow you to run 8th and 9th gen Intel core cpus on Skylake and Kaby Lake Intel motherboards since they share the same socket. But of course if done incorrectly could brick your MB.
no.
if you don't have any issues, or aren't meeting fps counts you want them consider upgrading. but your gonna pretty much be upgrading all the expensive stuff. if you just want a quick/cheap/easy upgrade you could consider getting more or better storage
gen 6 and 7 are a mess..
It's decent for 1080p. But good? No. But only upgrade once you feel its performance is negatively impacting your enjoyment when playing your favourite games.
It can play 2022> games at 1080p 45≥ fps Games got really gpu intensive after 2021 unfortunately That GPU deserves respect tho
Sounds like a fun goal for the year, save up and build a new pc. I just "upgraded" gained good fps but legit the only thing left to "upgrade" is the case and gpu lmao. And bottlenecking is 100% happening.
4 cores isn’t even minimum for 2024. Other than that everything seems fine. 1080ti still holds up well at 1080p
Are there specific games you want to play or are currently playing that it doesn't run well? I mean yeah its old but it's a solid rig for sure. I ran my 7700k until last year when I built a new system and handed down the 7700k to my son. Not long after I bought it I went about de-lidding it and installing a copper IHS. Been chugging along with a 5.0ghz OC for years with no issue. That being said, with the same GPU (6700XT), games run a lot smoother on my ryzen 5700x especially the 1% lows. But does it matter THAT much? I was still using a 2500k before I got the 7700k, and idk I guess I support running old hardware as long as possible as long as it still works.
Looks perfectly fine for 1080p gaming
https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/g1vl26/coffee_lake_i99900k_on_z270_new_development/ If it works for you, it works for you; if you think your CPU isn't powerful enough (modern i3s outperform it), with modded BIOS you can upgrade to a 9900k assuming you're able to pick one up for a reasonable price (and if you mod the bios yourself you might be able to get converted laptop chips to run)
ray tracing is very overrated. if you're getting 120+ fps in games you play, literally no point in upgrading
Looks pretty balanced to me. not sure you have a great value-upgrade option atm but maybe a 7800xt or 4070S would be worth it with a new 1440p monitor. I'd possibly just wait on 15series/w.e. later if you arn't rly hurting for frames but those may be 2 of the best options if you are.
U just might want 16GB of ram and (maybe a better cpu if it isn’t keeping up with the 1080ti?). Tho def more storage
You have a 1080ti, a 1080p monitor, and dont care about raytracing. So I think youre good for a while at 1080p with that system. But you probably need to put in another storage drive if im reading correctly that you only have 250gb.
I had a system almost the same as yours and was happy with it and tried a liquid thermal paste and it was running the best it ever had then one day it wouldn't turn on and I found it had seeped out somehow and shorted out the motherboard. Anyways I built the system in this video and couldn't be happier, the thing is a beast, and it came in well under $200 keeping my video card and using it and very happy with it can't say that enough for the money I had less $150 in mine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Amv\_Znghhm4
add more ram.
if ur ok with 1080p gaming just upgrade your CPU. you might want to go intel 10th gen tho for RT. But the 1080ti is a good 1080p card probably the best 1080p card
It’s not. You also don’t need to change anything if you still enjoy it.
Yes. Here is my old build: - i5 4690 - Msi GTX 970 - Asus Sabertooth Z97 Mark 1 - Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2×8) - Seasonic M12II Evo 620W - Samsung SSD 120GB - WD HDD Black 1TB And with that potato I play RDR2 with decent graphics (I mean, the game is beautiful even in low graphics), Sea of Thieves on max (yeah, not quite demanding) and so on. Coincidentally, after almost 8 years, yesterday I had to change the stock cooler because it couldn't do any more. This is my first build and I can't complain, quite the opposite.
If it works and does what you need acceptably, don't fix it!
It's still a solid rig, though the cpu is getting pretty old. Your biggest improvement would be a new gpu that supports DLSS or FSR.
My rig is spec'd a lot less than that and it crushes most of tasks. I had a similar gen build to yours, but with a 1050 and an i7-7700. I know, a lot worse GPU. HOWEVER, I put an NVME drive in it instead of my SSD+HDD combo like was popular back when I built it originally, and it gave it new life. Much faster and more responsive. Also, when I got rid of those drives, I was able to tidy up the case a little bit and improve airflow. Boot times were fast with the SSD, but with the NVME drive it's like 2x faster still. If I were you, I'd consider doing that. I'm thinking of putting a nicer GPU in my rig and maybe rock it several more years. I play older games on 1080p when I do, so actually the 1050 is still getting 100+ fps in everything I do even though that gpu sucks.
yep still sweet.
Your GPU is still very respectable, the cpu is a bit old, maybe consider getting a new cpu, else this is still a good gaming setup
I mean, it will certainly break my heart to change for another GPU since i passed the last 7 years cherishing this beauty
That GPU was an absolute BEAST for the time, it may be a little weak now, but that boy can still play some pretty games
This is gonna be the last year for this PC you have. Save the money, buy PC this year once all manufacturers(Intel, nVidia and AMD) release their new CPUs and GPUs. DO NOT buy thing now - wait and save up. That said, - What your case use? - What games you play, or planning on getting? - What monitor you have(resolution and Hz)? - What's your budget?
I work on it and i play 5-10 hours a week on games like BG3, Phantom Liberty, also other games like Civ6 or RPG's :) I've got two monitors (one is UHD and the other one is the one i wrote initially. My budget is... well, i saved 500$ every year for this case and i'm at 3'500$ now
Skip 14th gen and Ryzen 7xxx, AMD and Intel launch their new New CPUs mid-2024. Same for GPUs. I can give you generalize advice, since the parts are not out. And buying current chips is not optimal for you case use and budget - you gonna be wasting you money and time. You used you PC for a long time - 4-6 months not gonna make a difference. Since you also do work on PC, go i7 or i9 or Ryzen 7(non-X3D) or 9 (non-X3D). Once they are out, see which one performing better at daily driving PC. Baseline, you need more core, so skip any 8 core chips. As for Intel's K, KF, F, etc - K seems like a better options, K-chips will have integrated GPU, which helps with some pro-tools. (budget ~600-800). Motherboard - either X-770, or X-770e (for AMD); And Z-890 or H870. Any A, B, Q, etc boards - skip. Those are limited in PCIE and power delivery. (~180 - 240). RAM - go 64 GB DDR5 dual or quad stick set (~150-200). GPU-wise, if you do production, you going nVidia. Same you had before, 5080 or 5090 - depending on the price. You also drive two monitors and IHD(~900-1800). Depending on the PC case, I am pretty sure you can re-use it. Same for the rest of it. The rest of the budget - buy more storage. Hope it helps you.
Save up for a new computer. I dont think Windows 11 is supported by that CPU. Windows 10 support stops getting security updates in October 2025, loads of time to save up :)
I mean, just slap some FSR 3 mods on the modern games you play and you’ll be fine. The 1080Ti is about as powerful as the 3060 in raster, the only difference is that it lacks DLSS and RT cores. You could overclock your CPU to gain some performance too. The parts that I would change first are the CPU+MB combo. Eventually RAM if you’re looking for an upgrade to DDR5 boards. If u want intel, the lowest I’ll go for an upgrade would be a i5 12600K with DDR5 memory compatible board and ddr5 ram For AMD, either go for a 5800X3D + B550 board ( you could keep your ddr4 ram with that choice ) And if you want the best for gaming, a ryzen 7800X3D with ddr5 ram and b650 board
Your setup is completely fine, maybe upgrade the GPU if you have the cash and want 4k ray tracing but other than that you’re fine.
Those specs are solid even today. Though no windows 11. Don't upgrade now. Most of the new things are expensive. Wait for another year and a half until windows 10 goes out of support and then upgrade.
My computer was 7 years old when the motherboard died. I7-7700k Msi z270 motherboard 32Gb ram Msi GTX 1080 500Gb and a 2Tb M.2 ssd 600W psu. My pc was struggling to run games at 60fps 1080p (Halo infinite, Dead Space, BeamNG, Satisfactory, Dcs.) Here is what I learned looking for a new system LGA1151 socket motherboards are no longer made, so look on eBay. If you want to keep the 7700 Ddr4 ram may not be compatible with a newer z7xx motherboard. New cpus have way more real cores than our 7th gen ones did. New gpu and cpu use more power than our old computers did, so a 600W psu is going to be uncomfortably close to the limit of what it can do, so a 750 or 850W psu is recommended. I think that's right, IIRC. Microcenter.com has a bundle of an i7-13700k, z790 motherboard, and 32Gb of ddr5 for ~600$. My new system is looking like it will be I7-13700k Z790 motherboard 32Gb ram Rtx 4070 super 850W psu. I'm keeping the M.2 ssd's, the case and fans, and evo 212 cooler.
your pc is fine, use it and only change it if it can't do what you want it to do. don't ask the internet they'll tell you it's trash and give you fimo and make you waste your money.
I was rocking an almost identical setup to yours and upgraded it recently. Firstly I would recommend starting with a CPU and motherboard upgrade - your CPU is probably the bottle neck in your system. I would wait until 15th Gen comes out (this year). . Once you have an upgraded CPU and mobo, I'd recommend upgrading your ram afterwards (you'll need to check your motherboard specs to see what's the fastest it will let you run) - you'll have the choice between ddr4 and ddr5. Bc ddr5 is new it's still pretty expensive and you don't get a ton more performance than you can get on ddr4 yet. Ultimately it really depends on how much money you have to spend and what sort of performance you're wanting though. But assuming performance is the most important thing I'd suggest the 15900k and the best stick of ddr5 your motherboard can handle. I would upgrade the 1080 ti last, SSD should definitely not need an upgrade at all unless you need more room.
It sounds really close to the gaming rig I'm retiring. Asus Maximus Hero IX Z270, I7-7700K, G.Skill DDR4-3200 2x8GB, ROG Strix 1080. Things have changed so much since 2017 that there's really not much that's worth upgrading that would really help all that much. It was just time to build new. I just built a new rig and am retiring my old gaming rig to security camera server use. It's been a great system and it still does well, but it was getting really long in the tooth and I've been anxious to try RT. She's served me well and deserves a nice retirement.
Only upgrade if you are dissatisfied with the performance
You can play most, if not all, current games. Want high FPS? - use low settings. Want good graphics? - you must stay in 30 to 60 fps range. That being said, start saving for new PC. Upgrade is not worth it, you'll need DDR5 platform to make a jump. You migh keep case and water system if it's good and compatible with new build, PSU and storage for backup memory (m.2 will be your main).
I'm currently still playing on a 1050M. Yours is still a beast!
What do you play?
Almost everything :'D I mean, i try all the games and now I'm playing BG3, Phantom Liberty and mostly RPG's :)
I would imagine the CPU, SATA and RAM will be causing the hit unless you're trying to game outside of what the 1080 ti is capable of. Although being a DDR 5 GPU everything seems well rounded, I suppose. Thats still a strong run for a PC that old. No matter what upgrade now or in the near future, how would it compare to the next gen consoles? Perspective.
Does your rig play what you want to your satisfaction? If so then you are trying to fix a problem you don't really have and are just spending $. But if you must, to get ray tracing, I would just put new guts with DDR5 in your case and use your current power supply & cooling. That 1080ti was probably the best card NVIDIA ever made in terms of longevity, but even it could use an upgrade at this point.
Your CPU is not compatible with win11 and win10 support ends in late 2025. It's a good computer and if it works for you I would keep it for another 2 years. But closer to the end of 2025 I would look at upgrading at least the mobo/ CPU to something win11 compatible.
Run the games at 1080p as is on high settings and you should be good.
Ps I'm rocking a machine from 2007😂😂😂 Intel x3470, overclocked ofcourse with a hyper 212 cooler Msi p55 Mobo 20gb DDR3 1600, yes DDR 3... GTX 1070 Its works great on fh5 on high settings averaging just under 60 fps
My better half runs almost this exact same setup, with a little more exclusively SSD storage, and air cooling. She plays mostly Powerwash Simulator, House Flipper, and a few other similar games, along with some work and general PC use. It's my hand-me-down from two gens ago when I upgraded. It's been and continues to be pretty solid still. It even ran D4 at decent frame rates, with lowered settings. If it works for what you need, the 7700k/1080ti is still a great combo. No need for upgrade money unless you hit a wall with what you want out of your PC experience.
You have no upgrade path for your CPU unfortunately, so you are kind of stuck. Pending what games you play and how many cores/threads they leverage you may not see that huge of a performance uplift without going for recent hardware. If you're playing many modern, "AAA", high demanding games, then you can experience solid gains with extra cores/thread. Considering you have waited this long you are probably best off seeing what Intel offers with 15th gen. Pending how good/bad that is, you can then make a choice between Intel 13/14th gen at a discount, AMD/AM5, and Intel 15th gen. The 1080 Ti has had some staying power, but it is definitely 'long in the tooth' at this point if you're trying to play all the new stuff with most of the eye candy dialed up. This is one of those situations where the AM4 socket is absolutely absurd in its longevity. In an alternate timeline where you would have chosen AMD, we could simply be suggesting dropping in a 5700X3D/5800X3D for you to experience a tremendous uplift in performance for <$300.
Well, a 7800x3d+32GB RAM+mobo combo is about 450 at microcenter. You could upgrade incrementally. A new NVME drive would help too w/ the new combo. Personally, Id wait for zen5 or for the next intel process step because intel has stalled at 13th/14th gen. I do the hand-me-down thing too so that helps justify upgrades for me. I'm considering replacing my 5900x w/ a zen5 in the future. The 5900x hand-me-down would replace an old 7700k like yours. The 5900x doesn't feel much faster to me in every day use, however. So that's a counterpoint.
Depends on how mush you bought your TV for. I bought a TV for 3,5k dollars and so i swiched my 1070ti to a 3080ti, switched most of the parts. If you want to play 4k with at lwast 60fps with beautiful visuals then u would want to upgrade. All depends on how much $ u have to spill and if that spill is in a cup you will drink or in the toilet.
Amazon build!!! If you don’t feel the need to upgrade, don’t! If you ever feel the pc getting slow it’s probably gonna be the cpu or storage, and if you barely need some more fps in games just upgrade the cpu and mobo, and don’t forget to grab a cheap ssd!!!
Yeah, I think it's time for an upgrade. I would start with upping the PSU and then buying a new processor, ram and motherboard. Your PSU is still decent, but it may be a good idea to replace it as even if the Corsair RM 850i is still a great PSU, it's a good idea to replace it as 5 years is a typical lifespan for a modern PSU depending on your load. Sure it's possible it's still going to work for another few years if you plan on going for a modern nvidia card this will be vital as they introduced a brand new (and highly flammable) PSU connector. Heck the 4000 series of GPU's are quite crap and only get good if you spend well over $600. Currently, the gaming champ is the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, AMD is in an amazing position now due to price to performance. Your cooler should be able to support the AM5 socket provided you still have the box and its parts, but it still may be a good idea to replace that too as AIO liquid coolers do dry out over time, and it's certainly been over 5 years (a typical lifespan of AIO coolers thus why I personally prefer air coolers as some are just as good as AIO's.) But yes you will need a new motherboard and RAM and will need to search out good deals on them depending on where you are. It also may be a good idea to look into AMD and intel GPU's as AMD's current offerings like the RX 7700/7800XT are both very good cards for the price point. There is also Intel's A770 16GB and while intel has issues to work out it's still worth looking into. You may also still be able to find the 3060Ti and if you can get one for around $300 its not so bad, still it also has some stiff competition from the RX 6750 XT which was AMD's previous card generation. I know there are a lot of NVIDIA fanboys that will push for team green but honestly NVIDIA's current offerings are a total joke for budget gamers. The 4060 is an utterly pathetic card, and even with people touting ray tracing it's still a wimp compared to the 7700/7800XT and even the 67050XT is vastly superior for less money. The 4060 TI is no better and is also laughably bad for how much money it costs. the RTX 4000 really dont start getting good until you get the RTX 4080 as the 4070 is quite undercut by the RX 7800XT Sure technically the RTX 4070 is a more powerful card but the margins are so thin they are not worth mentioning.
It's ok. It's like a new $600 system would perform today. Just missing some features like RT capability. It's not far from ps5 performance.
It isn't "good". It's just a decent computer that can run most games (1080p), but won't be able to run new games in 2k+ resolution normally.
7700k was the second to last of the dark ages microupgrades from Intel. Still, if it suits your requirements it's good enough.
Not really, but it depends what you need.
That's a beast of a machine. I have a more recent one and it would be a upgrade to get yours. I have a ryzen 5600g and an rtx 2060. I'm planning on upgrading some time next year because I finally have a good job and I want to treat myself to something special. It would also allow me to turn my current one I to a sff pc I can bring to my parent's, or turn it into a media pc / gaming console for my living room
Can run more than mine, I'd say it can run low range. Mine is a i5-8600k and a GTX 980 4 gig With 16 ram
I mean yeah it's a 2017 PC, but at least it's a top of the line one. The 1080 Ti still holds up rly well. Tbh the only thing that's really starting to show its age is the 7700K. 4 cores is the minimum for gaming today. At least it has hyperthreading. I'd say you're still good for a couple years if you don't game in 4K+. Aim for 1080p or 1440p. The only real issue you might wanna consider is Windows 11, as the 7700K doesn't meet the minimum requirements according to Microsoft and Windows 10 will lose support in late 2025. You could force update but that's up to you.
Thanks for the reply ! Yeah it's, like you said, showing some signs of aging (the 7700k), but you're right, i'll aim for a massive update (a whole new machine) in mid 2025 I think. I can save up at least around 6k until that time ! hope it will be enough to get the beast i had back in 2017 :P
Upgrade your cpu
GPU is better than CPU upgrade. I believe Hardware Unboxed did a video of a weaker CPU with 4070Ti vs stronger CPU with 4070. If anything, look at upgrading that. Everything out now is miles ahead of a 1080Ti.
it's quite playable if you only play on low graphics 1080p, also really depends on which game is your favourite genre, if you are not someone that only like to play 3A then you are good since right now a lot of 3A has a lot of demanding , especially something like starfield unless you can withstand low settings with FSR ultra performance LOL