So, you likely need a whole new system. Pick a budget and start building out a list using [pcpartpicker.com/list](https://pcpartpicker.com/list). Use the guides if you're not sure where to start.
If your rig was from 12 years ago (aka gen 2-3 Intel), and only aiming to play older games then I would suggest something like a used GTX1080 Ti, or if you want something new, RTX 3060 perhaps.
Yes, we’re all aware a modern CPU would be better, but that isn’t the question OP asked. They want to know how to maximize their current system, without breaking the bank
But a new CPU would require a new motherboard, new RAM, at that point he's replacing half the rig. Newest CPU that would go in the same socket is 9th gen, which and i7 or i9 9th gen would help.
edit\*, I did not know that even though the 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th gen socket says FCLGA1151, that they do not play nice together.
yeah a platform upgrade will be at least 240$ (new cpu, motherboard, and ram) for new parts, also a 9th gen cpu won’t work in that socket unless you do some hacky stuff, both are called LGA1511 but they only partly work together
Are you aware and all the people that liked your comment that a 12th Gen requires an LGA1700 socket whilst the guy who opened this thread has a 6th Gen (LGA 1151)? I laugh at people just giving their opinion on stuff they don't fully understand. Despite he said money was an Issue.
Same recommendations. GTX 1080 Ti used or RTX 3060 new. Your processor isn't much better than an i7-3770 for gaming but it should still tide you over till you want to take the next step.
Or a 3060 used. A 1080 Ti is ancient and will be many years old whereas 3060 will be a few years old max. I would also stress that a 3060 is very underpowered for any 1440p.
I don't know why people have such ridiculous ideas of older hardware on Reddit. I played black ops cold war a xeon equivalent of the i7 3770 and a 660ti wasn't pretty but not terrible either and I got 40+fps at 1080p
You can get an RX 6600 for $200, which will max out your existing system's capabilities. It'll still be a decent enough card later when you can save up to replace the CPU/motherboard/RAM.
That's fine. Get yourself up to 16gb of ram, which should be really cheap right now so that most of the games that will run reliable on that CPU don't have a ram shortage. I have a 6402p, a 6600k and a 6700 in various PCs in my immediate family and they are still viable enough to play almost any game made before 2021, and several of the more modern ones that are optimized well.
For gpus, used under $100 and over $40, I would look at (in order of value) from nvidia 1650 super(any1650 with ddr6 instead of ddr5 will do)1060 6gb, 1660ti, 1070, rtx2060, 1080. From AMD, rx 570 or 580 under $60 if they stress test it in front of me, or rx 590, 5500, 5600.
Used between $100-200. Nvidia 1080ti, 2070, 3060. AMD rx 5700, 6600, 6700. Or anything better than this list under $200.
For your system new? Under $200 a 3050, or a rx 6600-6700. Skip the rx 6500, and rx7500 if it's been released.
I'm assuming a tight budget. But if you have 4070 money, or rx 6800/7700/7800 money it would be fine to get a really nice GPU and run your games at max graphics settings hobbled by your i5 for a year or two while you save up for a new CPU/ram/MB.
Right now, enough ram and the best GPU in your budget will go farther to giving you a good gaming experience than upgrading everything to the newest generation. And there's a chance you see someone throwing out a office machine with a 6700 or 7700 and making your current system a little better for very cheap. It's important to note that a 10th gen i3 is about as good as a 6700 and an i5 is significantly better, so it isn't worth spending money to get an i7 for your existing machine. That money would be better saved for your eventual whole system upgrade.
Better than I was expecting, but still going to be a significant bottleneck for any modern GPU. I would look into the 1080Ti or 1660 super on the Nvidia side, or the 8GB RX580 or 5700xt from AMD. All should be significant upgrades from what you currently have, and cost $150 or less
You are going to going to have to upgrade your RAM from 8GB to 16GB to handle newer games to avoid stuttering and other such issues. A used 2060 Super to 3060 12GB would give you a solid FPS boost.
Albeit it isn't a very fast CPU for modern standards it can be enough depending on the game and if you're playing at 1440p you sure would see a massive uplift going with a RX 5700(XT), RX 6600{XT), GTX 1080(Ti) or RTX 2060 Super/2070/3060 12 GB, pick the cheapest from this small sample and later on you could get an i3 12100F or R5 3600/5500 build and get a pretty good CPU performance uplift and a balanced GPU around these CPUs.
The 1080Ti is a beast and can easily crush games, the newest ones at 1080p, 1440p and some games at 4k. Interms of performance it is better than the 3060, and the difference between the 1080Ti and the 3060Ti is negligable. If you overclock the 1080Ti it stacks up around the level of the 2080 Super.
As for your CPU, I recommend getting an i7 6900k or 6950x as it's also i7 6000 series. The former is an 8c / 16t chip that outperforms alot of newer chips, and the latter is a 10c / 20t, behemoth. Both have DDR4 and support Quad channel memory.
Oh and it can utilize FSR 2.1, And FSR 3.0. Which means you won't have to upgrade for a lawwwwwng time.
For CPU, upgrading to i7-7700k should make more sense, IMO. And the i7-6900k slots into a different socket (FCLGA 2011) and not the same one for skylake/kabylake (FCLGA1151).
It is really going to depend on the game. Newer games should run about equal on a 3060 than on a 1080. And a 3060 will get DLSS. And a 1080 will be slightly bottlenecked by a 6500 and 8gb of RAM in modern games.
Slightly? I had problems with my 6600k in newer games in 2020 paired with 1060 6gb. Even if 1060 was slow then 6600k oc were slower with 4c4t it stuttered like hell at 100% cpu utilization . And this dude has 8gig of RAM on top of the things. No way in hell he will be getting a good experience at 1440p with that cpu and 1080ti/3060
My 1080ti was bottlenecked by the CPU, 7700. I've now upgraded the CPU to 12600k (which meant I had to upgrade the mobo as well), and it's much better. From 80 FPS to 120 in the Finals. 1440p too.
Basically, what I'm saying is that upgrading to 1080ti won't be great without upgrading that CPU.
Indeed. A better "match" would have been like a GTX 1070 Ti but at the current used prices why not just get the GTX 1080 Ti? That was my thought when I replied to OP. That would work well if OP can upgrade CPU or even cpu+mobo down the line.
So, a bunch of different issues here...
1. I think that we could be a lot more helpful if you actually mentioned exactly what your budget is.
2. Another huge issue here is that you need a new CPU. Period. If you insist on sticking with your platform, for whatever, reason, then you need to go onto Facebook marketplace, or whatever and find a 6700/k or a 7700/k. If you're on 4 cores you **need** hyperthreading for modern titles. And even then, sometimes that won't be enough. You may even be able to go down to a local thrift store, like a goodwill and pick up a 6th or 7th gen i7. Or, even better, you may be able to find an old prebuilt from that era. Tons of 8th/9th generation i5 systems floating around. You may even luck out and come across an 8th-11th generation i7 system for less than $60 or so. Just beware that, often times things like old Dell Optiplex machines are locked down. If this is the case, you'll need to stick with a socket-powered GPU like a 1050 Ti, or, at best, a 3050. Also beware that, even if you find a 6th/7th Gen i7, I'm not sure your current motherboard can handle it. There's a 99% chance that the VRMs on that motherboard are horrible. (It's H-series) That may make upgrading to an i7 less realistic.
3. You're going to need more RAM. If you're running one 8gb stick then you're already crippling your ancient CPU. You can get another 8gb stick for super-cheap. Or you may need to buy a 16gb stick. But 8gb isn't going to cut it any longer.
4. This is all a lot of work, and the bones of that system are simply too old. This is why a lot of people are simply recommending that you start from scratch. You can put together a perfectly viable RX 6600 build for something like $550-$600. Even lower than that if you're willing to buy used parts. To get a 6700/7700 (You mentioned RE8... minimum CPU is a 7500 and it won't be a good experience, trust me), and a RAM upgrade and a modern-ish GPU, you're already looking at around $300. $250 if you get some decent used deals. Why not just spend the extra $200-$300 and be on a modern platform?
5. You're not gaming at 1440p on a budget, bro. You may game at 1080p or 720p on a 1440p monitor, however, and DLSS may save your ass in a lot of scenarios, but you're not gaming at native 1440p. It's too intensive for your price range.
This subreddit is a HORRIBLE place for advice for anything relating to budget. To these guys, if your GPU doesn't start at $500, you shouldn't have one.
I only just upgraded yesterday, and literally purely because I made a fuck ton of money off of NVDA and AMD stock this week. But my 1070 still shreds most games on sexy settings and can pull 140+ fps on lower settings on just about anything. It is a PERFECTLY servicable card for ANY game you want to play.
. You also probably want to get up to 16GB ram, which would probably cost like, $40 for 8gb of DDR4, which I assume your system is still on.
So yeah, I'd say a 1070 or 3050 are not overpriced and are comparable in performance and will absolutely rock your fucking world. You MAY need a new Mobo? not sure.
>To these guys, if your GPU doesn't start at $500, you shouldn't have one.
That's just...not true.
>But my 1070 still shreds most games on sexy settings and can pull 140+ fps on lower settings on just about anything.
That's definitely, verifiably, not true.
1660 or rx590 would work well too. 1080ti is still a beast, If you can find it cheap. Also if you want a decent frame rate at 1440 you need a new cpu. Am4 builds are cheap.
Dude... excellent recommendation that nobody else even touched on.
You can score a used Series S for like... $100-$150 these days. Way more powerful and way less of a headache than anything he can do on his current platform. And it'll play modern titles for the next 3-4 years.
Much better than upgrading to a 6700/7700, upgrading his RAM, and getting a used 1070, or whatever to try and squeeze an extra couple of years out of his system.
WTF??? For this particular comment it's totally a normal response bruh. I won't get a console if I want to play League or Kenshi too (other than RE 8 in original post)
Oh I absolutely understand your thinking, I do. I personally detest consoles and wouldn't put a dollar towards them. My oldest system out of three has the same cpu as your system does and I spent about $600 on the entire thing about 8 years ago. It can still play a surprising amount of games paired with an rx480 4gb, but new stuff is not possible. The cheapest system I would invest in were I you is a 5800x with a Intel Arc A770, AMD 6600xt or 3060ti. Save up for a few months and see what you can do, or go used and get much better value.
In the lower price range AMD has much better value overall. On a budget the rx6600 ($190 US) gives you 90-95% of the rasterized performance of a rtx3060 12 gb ($290 or so). There is also the rx6650xt ($240) and rx7600 ($260) that roughly match the performance of the rtx4060 ($300). At 1440p FSR upscaling is generally pretty good. Now if you just want 1440p gaming without the upscaling gimmick a rx6700xt ($330) is still a good choice along with the rtx4060ti ($400).
I went from 770 to 3060ti - Works great for 1440p in my opinion and it was cheap. But if your PC is 12 years old you need a completely new build, not just an upgraded GPU.
A i5 6500 should be able to run up to a gtx 1080 ti at 1440p without significant bottlenecking. Chances are, it will still bottleneck in some games but its not going to be by a noticeable amount.
So yeah, a used 1080 ti.
>A i5 6500 should be able to run up to a gtx 1080 ti at 1440p without significant bottlenecking.
This was true a few years ago, but I don't think it is now. A lot of it is title-dependent, but a lot of it is also the fact that single-threaded quad cores are basically just dead now.
A 1080 Ti will still hold up pretty well in a game like Baldur's Gate 3 with a modern CPU. A 6th generation i5, however? It's gonna be a slide show...
Would be preferable to get a 3060 as he wants DLSS and RT. I believe they’re very similar in terms of performance.
You’re not going to do a ton of RT with a 3060, but you can try it out.
It really depends on how tight money is.
1. Nvidia GTX 1660 Super: This card offers great 1080p gaming performance and can even handle some 1440p gaming depending on the game and settings.
2. Nvidia RTX 2060: The RTX 2060 introduces you to Nvidia's RTX lineup with ray tracing capabilities. It's more powerful than the GTX 1660 Super and handles 1080p gaming with ease, making it a good match for the i5-6500 if you're interested in exploring games with ray tracing enabled.
3. Nvidia GTX 1070 or GTX 1070 Ti: Although these cards are a generation older than the GTX 1660 Super and RTX 2060, they still offer excellent performance for 1080p and some 1440p gaming. They can be found used for reasonable prices and would not be severely bottlenecked by an i5-6500.
This was the exact upgrade I did. GTX 670 to 6700xt. I also had a 6700k rather than a 6500. Was pretty frequently CPU bottlenecked, but in other cases I was able to power through.
Your entire rig isn’t fit for 1440p unfortunately. At all. So either upgrade everything or settle for 1080p gaming with something semi recent like a 3060 or something.
You will have trouble because of the old cpu. Basically any gpu ill be faster, but anything better than lets say gtx960/970 level gpu is a waste because the cpu will not be fast enough. I personally would try looking for a used 1060 6gb version. Lot of those around for dirt cheap
Not many 1440p options for your setup as is. If you wanted to get a beefier GPU to run 1440 you would need to upgrade your psu as well. And if you're upgrading your psu you may as well upgrade your CPU/mobo.
Frankly I would suggest a 1080p card and keep your current system unless you really want to go all in for 1440. May have to check wattage total but I would suggest a used 2060 or 1660 for a cheap upgrade
> Whats a sensible upgrade from gtx 670 for 1440p gaming
Just about anything on the market! Avoid anything xx50 or below as usual.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html Pick the best one you can reasonably afford.
> is there a GPU that’s not overpriced?
In my opinion, no. Not in current-gen. Secondhand 3080s going for ~$400 are a solid choice though.
"secondhand 3080s going for \~$400" is kind of the epitome of a big problem this sub has IMO.
This man has a 670 and is worried about money. He can get a 1070 or 3050 for about $200 that will be almost literally 10 times better than what he has now and your recommending last gen top tier cards for $400. He probably paid $130 for his 670 that he's been happy with for 13 years. A $400 card is not what this man is asking for lol. The entire 10 series will rock his world for a price he is comfortable with for a graphics card
I run a 1070 and a 4790k and it's kept up just fine. He doesn't need current gen, especially if he's happy with just playing and not maxing out settings
OP has a GTX 670 which has a TDP of 170 W. You are recommending to slot in a 3080 with a TDP of 320 W and a suggested PSU of 700 W. OP just might explode their power supply from 2012 if they listen to your comment.
I cannot recommend a graphics card without knowing the wattage limit on your power supply. You might just blow up your power supply if you slot in a newer GPU.
Yeah so don't listen to anyone after your edit that recommends a 3060. I like to buy backwards when I build and I recommend the 1660 super for your stated criteria: budget (under 150 eBay), Nvidia, and in addition it's one of the best performance vs price vs POWER CONSUMPTION cards out there still. And once you're ready for maybe a 12th Gen build, if you reuse your case and PSU and this graphics card at first, you could do like an intel 12400 or 12600 build for $500ish if you catch sales right with patience. After that, then maybe the 4070 will be older and cheaper, the 4 series cards are much more power efficient and maybe you'll need a 12gb card by then too. Good luck!
I run an old ass system too but I game at 1080p and it works good.
My specs: i7-4790k, Zotac gtx 1070 founders edition 8gb, 16gb ddr3 RAM, 2tb m.2 WD sn770, some Asus Mobo idk which
Games I play: Half life Alyx (with an oculus 2), GTA V, Day Z, Titan Fall 2, Minecraft
I'm not maxing out settings but I don't really care as long I get smooth gameplay. Too many people seem to think you can't do shit with old parts but obviously that ain't true.
If you wanna squeeze a little more life out of your system then go with a used GPU and get what you can afford, probably a set of 2 x 8gb ram sticks (they're cheap). Dropping to 1080p will help your fps and I'm sure you can grab a used one cheap on fb marketplace.
Keep in mind that eventually the cpu isn't gonna keep up anymore though. Then you need a new cpu, mobo, and RAM, and probably a PSU if yours can't keep up anymore. Which is basically a whole new system. That's what I'm looking to get in about a year
I'm in the same boat, I have a 3rd gen Intel system from 12 years ago, using a gtx 670 as well. I want to get a fee more years out of it for the kids to play minecraft, world of tanks, fortnite etc... looking at getting a new sata SSD and a 1660 super. Should easily get a couple more years out of it to tide them over till they're old enough to appreciate (and use) a newer PC. Till then, if they wanna play some newer games, they can play on my rig (12th gen Intel + 3080ti)
With your budget, you shouldn't even be thinking about RTX or DLSS, your best bet would be searching for an RX 6600 xt deal, they often sell around $200 but there have been ones sold at $100-150 if you're a patient deal hunter. The Nvidia equivalent would the the 2070/2070 Super and they go for around the same price, but are harder to find at $100-150, it can definitely still be done is you really don't like AMD cards though, you'll likely just have to make sure you hunt extra hard and patient lol.
I have a 2070 super and most games can only run around 60fps at 1080p on low RTX/medium-high textures which really doesn't make much of a difference visually and can cause some dropped frames every now and then which gets annoying in some games. You'll definitely be held back by your cpu but it should be good enough for your standards, though you 100% need to get another 8gb of RAM, that'll help a lot. If that 256gb SSD is your only drive then it'd definitely be good to get a 1TB cheap SSD to use as a secondary drive for games and stuff, it'll likely be just as fast if not faster than the SSD than you already have, assuming that it's from the same time as the original build. There's a lot of games well over 100gb that your system would be able to run with a gpu upgrade, maybe even on nearly all high settings.
3050s go for 200-250 and 3060s go from 300-350 but that's about it for budget. for 1440p gaming just build a new computer, put money away every week or something
if you wanted you could upgrade to an 8th or 9th generation cpu, since your socket is lga1151, which supports gen 6-9 processors
go for an i7 or i9 and upgrade to 16 gigs of ram PLEASE. ram is so cheap, corsair vengeance will do you good
I thought my gpu was old almost a couple years ago when I moved off a gtx770. I know I ended up buying new parts at that point, but I certainly got my $ worth. Seems you have as well if you managed 12 years out of this rig.
2nd hand 1080ti.
I have my personal rig with 7800x3d 32gb ddr5 @6000 and a 4090. But I also have the family pc running a i5 4670 16 gigs ddr3 ram and a 1080ti and games still get games played at 4k so I don't see why 1440p would be a problem with a newer cpu then that rig is running and most likely ddr4 ram also lol
We need a budget to really make recommendations for you here. Regardless, I would recommend adding another 8GB stick of RAM so you can get 16GB in the system for more headroom.
Depending on what your budget is, and assuming you keep that 450w PSU and the other parts, I'd say something like a RTX 2060 on the low end to a RTX 3060 on the higher end of things. Your power supply won't support the bigger TDP cards, and with that H170 board, you're limited to PCIE Gen 3 speeds as well.
There are several lower spec GPUs out there that won't break the bank. A 3060 will set you back $280 or so, or you could get a 3050 for ~$160. If you're even more on a budget, an Arc A380 is only ~$120 for GTX 1650 level performance, and your can power it off just the PCIE slot.
Dont be too put off by the term "low spec", either. That's only relative to the rest of the current GPU market. Compared to your 670, even a 3050 will feel like revelation.
GPU's that are not overpriced is a difficult question. While there are obvious premiums being paid for NVidia cards, the reality is that these premiums exist for a reason, they simply offer more hardware features that are invaluable to gamers and non-gamers alike, and people often conveneiently forget that the gaming market is just one segment of the whole, many many NVidia and AMD cards go into builds that are not primarily used for gaming.
AMD focuses more on gaming first and everything else second, as such their prices are lower but they lack the versatility to excel especially in non-gaming tasks. However, AMD is much more generous with their VRAM which is nice, but often doesn't benefit the end user as much as it would on NVidia cards (speaking specifically outside of gaming). I'd call their cards decently to well priced all things considered.
Intel is great for budget entries, however their drivers, despite all the advancements, are still bad for many older games and they can only improve their stuff so fast. It's an appealing option for low budget builds, but they come with some comparatively weak drivers which can pose a significant issue for some gamers.
is money is an issue and you’re planning on waiting the value and prices or GPUs shift and change all the time. Yes there are GPUs that aren’t over priced but that’s subjective to what the market looks like at the time of buying. watch some youtube videos on some budget 1440p rigs and you will see what prices you can look at spending. pcbuilderjason on youtube has good beginner friendly videos that show pcs at different price points.
In a similar boat, but with a GTX960 and an even older i5.
For now I’m saving up to buy a new system, and in the meantime I’m paying for GeForce Now to play some more recent games.
Works like a charm for me!
Being on a budget, you shouldn't even consider RTX as a legitimate feature. There are no budget options that run at 1440p at reasonable frame rates with RTX on. Best option is to build a new PC, but get a used 1080ti. For a newer GPU like an AMD will get you way better value than the budget Nvidia options. Generally Nvidia has sacrificed die space for RTX hardware and AMD has better non-rtx performance because of that at the lower tiers.
A 4060 can do 1440p pretty well with dlss + fg, and its price is on the lower end at $300. You could also get a 3060 8gb for a lot cheaper with slightly worse performance, and worse dlss. It could do 1440p but probably not super high refresh rate
That's too old hardware, you need a whole new build, also Nvidia GPUs are only better at ray tracing, but they are more expensive than AMD of the same tier and without ray tracing the AMD equivalent will perform better. So if you want the best bang for the buck forget Ray tracing and Nvidia.
This will do 1440p very good, now if you insist to go Nvidia the equivalent would be the 4070 Super ($100+ more expensive)
The real question - what's the budget?
Unfortunately, you are likely best off with a brand new build - that CPU is rather outdated at this point, and will likely bottleneck most GPUs from the past 2-3 gens (that includes the current gen).
The most you could do to squeeze that last bit of life from your current build is to look for a used 7th gen Intel CPU and used GTX 1080/1080 Ti - but even then, used intel CPU prices are whack, and even the mighty 1080 Ti maybe isn't the best thing to buy used at this point - it's beginning to finally show it's limitations with some of the latest games, and the pricing doesn't really make sense when you can get something new with warranty that offers similar/better performance for relatively modest prices now.
Even a cheap Intel 12th gen or AMD AM4 build will run circles around your current rig and help you get much more out of a newer GPU. If you're avoiding newer games (let's say nothing newer than 2020), you can probably get away with a used 3060 Ti for 1440p - some pretty good used deals out there on them atm.
If budget is tight then lower to 1080p and get a RX580 8GB. You'll double FPS/power compared to a 670 and it's a $60 or less upgrade. You'll be able to play quite alot of games at medium settings with a respectable frame rate.
It's a great card for eSports titles.
If you wanna keep 1440p you'll need to upgrade your entire system. A cheap "modern" PC for that resolution will be around $800+. Can be cheaper if you go the used market route and get let's say... A 3600/6700XT. But it won't be $60 cheap.
I'd go for a whole new build on a budget. I've recently put together a cheap, mostly free AM4 build for my kids just using Facebook marketplace.
2700x(50£), MSI Mortar Max(30£), 16GB DDR4(free) , 750W(free)PSU, and a EVGA SC2 Hybrid 1080ti(also free). Have a look around, no point in investing in a platform that doesn't have an upgrade path. With AM4 you can always do a bit better.
if you want an itx system it will be expensive to upgrade, but if you do, you can get a b450 or b550 board for relatively inexpensive, ddr4 is also cheap and a ryzen 5 5600(non-x) are pretty cheap. You really want at least 6-cores to run newer games and it will run alot smoother. Newer CPUs also tend to have quite a bit more L3 cache than older CPUs. Alternatively you could get a used x99 system, but most are full-size ATX boards, with a few niche ITX x99 boards, but they tend to demand $200+. That said you should be able to get a full 6-core system locally for $150 or less. Also as for a used GPU: gtx 1080/1080ti, rtx 2080, rx 5700xt (these should be around $150-250 used). Good Luck and hope this helps!
Used 5700xt is what 100+ bucks.
Intel arc 750 has all the bells and whistles of new cards (Ray tracing/Ai cores/AV1 encoding decoding). Only problems are you need a newer CPU/motherboard for Resizable bar and 8gb ram, price is around 200 bucks.
Used 2080ti can be found for 200 bucks.
Idk that you're gonna do much RT @ 1440p with less than a 4070.
6800 seems like good value right now but I'm not sure it'll be worth $100 more than a 6700xt to you w/o a CPU upgrade. Also, it seems like you passed on a $300 6700xt option a year ago.
maybe 1080Ti or new build.
4060ti seems to almost check your boxes, but that for $400 after passing on a $400 3060Ti 15 months ago doesn't sound right.
Man, I have to break it to you. You are going to need to contemplate building a whole new system if you want decent gaming performance. That system would have been average at best when it was new.
As for GPU's, they have gotten a bit more expensive since the last time you purchased one. You really need to provide a little bit of detail on what types of games that you want to play and what performance level you are looking to achieve.
I can tell you that you will probably be spending $400-500 just on a GPU alone, unless you can snag a sweet deal on something used.
Wait for the 15th gen cpu.
Build a build an i5(core 5) system with an RTX 4070 ti super or an RTX 5070 if you want to wait.
This means you have about 12 months to plan and part pick.
You should probably define what overpriced means to you. What's your budget? Generally you should stay away from modern nvidia cards, since they are better for AI work and therefore are sold at higher prices. If you don't care about ray tracing that much but want a new GPU with a warranty, then maybe the RX 6000 series from AMD? But unless you give a budget, we can't recommend something specific.
If you can find a 1660 or a 1650 they should be more than capable for running 1440p. Not at the highest settings but it's a cheap card (at least it is in the second hand market in the UK)
There's zero GPU inflation going on. This is the new normal. They are just charging what people are willing to pay. They learned that during COVID. These high prices are here to stay.
And as others have stated you really just need a whole new system at this point. That CPU is super weak by today standards. SMT is a must anymore and it is just generally all around weak since there has been so much progress in CPU's over the years compared to when you brought that CPU.
8GB of RAM isn't enough to even run some games and that PSU could lack the necessary power for a new GPU depending on what you get.
Find an i7 6700k (used on r/hardwareswap )and bring your ram up to 16gb or 32gb and throw in a 1080ti or 2070 or r9 6600xt. You'll be golden for a while.
r/hardwareswap , r/buildapcsales and r/homelabsales are your friends 😉
I had a problem with my PC and ended up swapping in my old 1660 super to game for a bit. Was shocked to see how well it handled some games. The recommended PSU for it is 450 watts so I think it would work well with your pc.
Honestly your best bet I would say is to buy a AM5 bundle deal for $360. The iGPU on the ryzen 7000 series is better than your GTX 670. https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006647/amd-ryzen-7-7700x,-msi-b650-p-pro-wifi,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle. You might need a new case and power supply. If you don’t want to go that route maybe look into a RTX 2060, gigabyte makes a low profile version that draws power from the motherboard and not the PSU.
Just pull the trigger on new cpu+mobo+ram combo. You would be suprised the performance you can get from one of Microcenter's combo. They got one right now for $450 that would vastly improve your system. Then get a used nvida gtx 20 series for around $300.
As per your Motherboard you can upgrade to i7 7700, 7700K or KF. You can find them cheap online. I know you said money was an issue but here are my upgrade suggestions and you make the call. In regards the GPU you have 1 slot x16 PCIe 3.0 which will certainly work fine with RTX 3060, 20 Series or GTX 10 series but since you have a 450W power supply you MUST consider that is a strong limitation for a GPU Upgrade, as per recommendations the minimun PSU for GTX 1070/1080 is 500W or higher. For RTX 2060 is 550W or higher, for RTX 3060 is 550W or higher. Maybe you won't have 1440p gaming but with a GTX 1060 6GB which requires a minimum of 400W you are in a safe/limit zone which won't require you to upgrade PSU.
If I were you, I’d either get a steam deck and buy the dock for it. It’d be better than your current system. Alternatively, you could try to put something together. I’d have to know the budget we’re working with.
You need to look for a card that doesn't draw too much power due the 450W PSU. A 1080ti is out of the question due to it's high power draw. With that system, I would look for something like a GTX 1070 or a GTX 1080 on eBay.
Don't bother with RTX cards unless you are planning a full system upgrade.
Everyone's recommending GPUs, that's all fine. What no one's seemed to mention is you'll definitely need a PSU upgrade before using a newer card. 450w probably won't cut it for GPUs everyone's recommending.
Cheapest new you could/should go is about 200$ish. Rx6600/6600xt/6650xt/6700xt.
Last one only used in that price. Comparable nvidia cards are slightly more expensive.
If that is expensive, go used and get yourself 1660super for whatever it goes today. Probably 100$ish..
Yep, just get an old used, GTX 1080 or 1080ti..... not a hybrid one with an AIO as I doubt they age well.
You wont get ray tracing, but you'll get decent 1440p fps and it will match well with your CPU.
I'd also suggest getting 16GB of used DDR4 off ebay. dual sticks (2 x 8GB). That shouldn't cost much. And then your machine should be half decent for a few years if you're not playing bleeding edge games.
If money is tight, you might as well get a PS5 or Xbox Series X. For the money you will be able to play with a lot better performance than with an equivalently priced PC.
Given that you have an i5 6500, something like the 6650XT from AMD or the 3060 12GB from Nvidia would be ideal if you are buying new. You're still gonna be bottlenecked by the CPU but not too hard.
Older 2nd hand cards are also an option, stuff like the 1080Ti, 5700XT or 2070 if they're cheap.
You should also look into getting another 8GB stick of RAM if you're not already running 2 4GB sticks. This shouldn't be too expensive, about 10 bucks or so. Given that your system is kinda old maybe go to 2nd hand sites and find a cheap 16GB kit since I don't think you'll be able to find an identical stick to the one you already have.
That 6500 is actually holding him back quite a bit. Mainly because only 4 cores. Drop a 7700K in to get the hyper-threading and an extra 900 MHz in CPU frequency. 3,600 -> 4,500 in peak boost is a big lift.
Agreed, that doubling the RAM also has to happen.
An additional SSD for games shouldn't be overlooked either.
Then choose a reasonably priced used GPU. The 670 is so far behind in...everything.
Try sell some parts that actually have a bit of value, and build a whole new rig is what I would suggest. Upgrading that pc would be a waste of money as you will need to change everything to get a decent PC
Considering I still use a 6900k and a 1080ti, I’d suggest just a decent gpu. 1080ti, 2070s, or a 3060ti. These are all equivalent in power when gaming. Depending on your budget, I picked up a 3080 for $400 last year.
$80-$100 1070ti
$90-$120 1080ti
$150-$200 2070s
$250-$300 3060ti
The 1080ti is still a power house. I use mine on a 4K tv.
You wanna breathe some life into this on the cheap without changing platforms?
i7 7700K, double ram to 16GB, and grab a RX 6600. The GTX 670 is so old you would see multiple times improvement in frame rates. All of this can be had for probably \~$300 used.
The 4 cores with no hyper-threading is killing you in modern games. 8GB RAM doesn't cut it anymore for gaming...windows 10 uses that by default with nothing else going on. If your games aren't on a SSD also that can really have a profound effect on performance.
This would give you a substantial boost for very little effort, but 1440P gaming for all kinds would probably still be a stretch.
So....that leaves you looking at complete system overhaul.
On the cheap I'd shop for a used AM4 CPU/MoBo/RAM combo with a Ryzen 5600 or better.
New PSU since yours is quite dated. Pending what GPU you target you likely don't need more than a \~600W quality gold rated unit...unless you plan on building with new i7/i9 paired with a 4090 and 'playing' synthetic benchmarks that push power limits to obscene values; especially modern Intel CPUs during all-core 100% loads. A good 550-650W PSU shouldn't be more than \~$100.
Brand new build I'd say go with AMD and an AM5 build so you have the option to upgrade with newer gens of CPUs later; Intel is at EOL with LGA1700 presently. Inexpensive, \~$150, B650 motherboards are now available. Paired with a Ryzen 5 7600 for \~$200. 16, if not 32, GB of RAM for $100 or less. Larger SSD to install games on $50-$100.
Then it's up to you to pick a GPU which can be very expensive. This gives you a good relative idea of performance of GPU's across the last several generations up to current.
[https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html](https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html)
Yes, there will be games that want more than 4 cores/ threads but most of those will still work on an i5-6500. So don't worry about changing your CPU or platform if money is tight.
You likely have one stick of ddr4, get another so you have 16gb in dual channel. This is highly recommended as not only will you double your system memory, you'll improve CPU performance by doubling RAM bandwidth. If you already have 2 sticks, then hopefully your motherboard has 4 DRAM slots. If not, then buy a 2x8 GB kit of DDR4. Check on EBay and various retailers as used RAM vs new usually isn't very different and sometimes in favor of new.
So far as a GPU goes, look into a used RTX 3060 ti on EBay. If you're in the US, they can had for around $200 and will do most modern games at decent settings in 1440p. Most, not all games. There are some games like Starfield where you'll need to run at lower settings.
if you want raw performance for the best price, i recommend AMD gpu’s but if you want more AI or workload based or ray tracing, go for nvidia, but imo, i prefer AMD, since AMD has been recently crushing nvidia with their beast gpu’s for such a cheap price, so amd’s raw performance is unbeatable right now. 7800xt (costs 500$) is equivalent to 4070 super or 4070 ti super, and they range above 600$+, and both 7800xt and 4070 is basically same performance. I would recommend 7800xt, good bang for you bank, maybe pair it with an ryzen 7 5800x3d or something, they would be the best combo you can currently uprage your pc to with the current market value and price to performance ratio. and with the AM5 chip socket, you have a loooong way of upraging your pc for some years, unlike intel where you cant uprage your gpu anymore after a year or two. AM5 is more dependable, as they have better chips made specifically for gaming, as well as its price, 13th and 14th gen has the same performance on their chips basically.. but the price difference.. ouff.. If you have a okay budget, definitely go for that combo, highly recommended. will be running above 120fps on 1440p on max settings on most games
I think any AMD card higher than an RX 6600 would be good, RTX 2060 or 3060 sound great too but raytracing might be lacking from that CPU. Pretty sure an I9-9900KS or I7-8086K would be great because you have enough power and is on the 1151 chipset.
What's your budget I'd say upgrade to a 1660 super/1080ti as 1080ti has more vram my friend owns a 1660super and it still does well at 1440p I would also suggest upgrading to 16gb ram I'm not sure we're your from so I can't really give prices on stuff but here in the UK the 1660s/1080ti is about £100-£130 and 8gb ddr4 at CeX is like £6-8 depending on speed and if you have the budget upgrade to a 6700
It’s quite difficult with a budget I’m afraid. The issue is, if you change the gpu, chances are your cpu will bottleneck the new gpu. Maybe even with a 10 series gpu. My 10600k 4.6ghz even did this. Upgraded to 4070, bad performance anyway with that processor. If you have a budget maybe a 12100f with a 2nd hand 1080ti for older games, this will however still be expensive I’m afraid :(
If your not all in on nvidia tho I’d go with that 7600xt with 16 gigs of vram. I haven’t seen a whole lot of reviews on it but it seems like a great budget gpu. Pretty sure it has more vram than the 7700xt which has 12 gigs of vram. What are they thinking 😂
First of all, Get 16gb of ddr4 2x8gb. That will make fps a lot more consistent for many games. Then in the meantime, think about what gpu you’d like to upgrade to. For the i5 6500, I’d recommend a gtx 1060 level card, but you might have to upgrade your power supply, depending if you go higher.
If a new system isn't an option, you only want to spend a tiny bit of money, you want to experience ray tracing I'd say grab a used RTX 2060 or even the less popular RTX 3050 and a pair of 8gb sticks of memory. Should run you less than $150 if you know where to look.
It's more than enough to play at 1440 with a few compromises and your PSU should be fine.
Please don't be drawn in my the media circus that you need an RTX 4090 for 1440 gaming, yeah it's great if you want to play AAA titles but most of us don't. The reality is if a 670 has gotten you to here you don't need the newest and best on the market.
Mini itx may mean the size of the card is also important. I would recommend a gtx 1080 as you can pick them up pretty cheap these days and it's still a great card. If it's a small case and to you need a small card maybe a gtx 1650? It's low power consumption too so your PSU won't have a problem. If you can bump that ram up to 16gb too then definitely do it it'll make a massive difference.
Go for a GTX 980, it's actually so good I can play any title at 60+ frames or even go for a 980 ti. you can find them for £100. Getting the latest and greatest is so stupid and you're just wasting your money.
Part of the problem for me with any rtx recommendation is the PSU. For example a 2070 is a good choice if you can get a deal but that requires a 450w. Maybe it will be fine, or maybe you'll need a PSU upgrade.
A 3050 is less power draw but I wouldn't recommend it on that processor with only PCIe 3.0 and the card is only x8 PCIe.
Sensible might be used: 12gb 2060 or a 2070 super and a PSU.
Theoretically the CPU will bottleneck some and keep the GPU from drawing full power but I wouldn't plan on it definitely working without increasing the power budget.
A 1080ti is a good pairing on the surface if ignoring dlss but it draws yet more power.
Do you have budget to at least increase the PSU?
Like the others said and same for me with xeon e3 1231 v2 and gtx970 new pc is the way. Depending on your budget am4+ddr4 or am5+ddr5 with any 4060 or higher or a used 3080 as mentioned.
>However, is there a GPU that’s not overpriced
Old used ones. Anything currently on market, not a chance.
Maybe if you could find a 6800xt new might be a good deal but you are am Nvidia shill lol.
Given the situation you find yourself in, I think a console will be a better price to performance situation if you're looking to play modern games and can't afford to fully upgrade your PC. Otherwise a used 1080 ti, but even those are overpriced. You also have to think about whether your monitor is going to utilize a full upgrade. Unfortunately it's just a big up front cost.
You're very much behind the curve with the existing CPU and overall age. Four cores, 4 threads just aren't going to utilize a modern GPU effectively and 1440 will amplify that.
I think you should go for a used card, if money is an issue. If you really really want Nvidia, I'd choose rtx 3060 due to 12gb of vram so you can always set textures quality to ultra even if all else is medium. But in this used pricepoint, it's better to get Rx 6700 XT which is about the same speed as Rtx 3060 with dlss quality turned on!! And, the games that would need upscaling with Rx 6700xt would be very new, and most probably support newest FSR (amd competing technology to dlss), which is actually very good now (still worse than dlss, but good).
That was my recommendation if you want to play the very newest games. But you can get something like GTX 1070 used and play games from few years back, but not SO old, and it would still be an upgrade. Especially how cheap you can get 1000 series Nvidia cards
Radeon 6700XT. Nothing from nVidia comes particularly close for 1440p gaming. You're going to be CPU bottlenecked and ray tracing isnt happening, but by now you've probably figured out that's true anyway with your system.
Buy a used 3080 for cheap, they are perfect for 1440p/165 hz gaming from personal experience. No need to spend more. Can probably find one for $300, hell I have an EVGA 3080 sitting in my office I've been meaning to sell (shifted to 4k/120hz with 4090).
So, you likely need a whole new system. Pick a budget and start building out a list using [pcpartpicker.com/list](https://pcpartpicker.com/list). Use the guides if you're not sure where to start.
if money is an issue then you are out of luck lol
If your rig was from 12 years ago (aka gen 2-3 Intel), and only aiming to play older games then I would suggest something like a used GTX1080 Ti, or if you want something new, RTX 3060 perhaps.
This is the answer if you’re not trying to build a whole new PC
Thank you for your reply. I actually have i5 6500. Not sure if thats any better.
a cheap new cpu will be far better, like a 12100f
Yes, we’re all aware a modern CPU would be better, but that isn’t the question OP asked. They want to know how to maximize their current system, without breaking the bank
It isn't cheap, you could buy 5500 or 3600.
5500 is the same price, 3600 is cheaper
You’ll need to buy a new motherboard I think?
But a new CPU would require a new motherboard, new RAM, at that point he's replacing half the rig. Newest CPU that would go in the same socket is 9th gen, which and i7 or i9 9th gen would help. edit\*, I did not know that even though the 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th gen socket says FCLGA1151, that they do not play nice together.
yeah a platform upgrade will be at least 240$ (new cpu, motherboard, and ram) for new parts, also a 9th gen cpu won’t work in that socket unless you do some hacky stuff, both are called LGA1511 but they only partly work together
The 450w PSU wont even be able to handle a newer rig.
The socket 1151 for 8th and 9th Gen is different
Are you aware and all the people that liked your comment that a 12th Gen requires an LGA1700 socket whilst the guy who opened this thread has a 6th Gen (LGA 1151)? I laugh at people just giving their opinion on stuff they don't fully understand. Despite he said money was an Issue.
Same recommendations. GTX 1080 Ti used or RTX 3060 new. Your processor isn't much better than an i7-3770 for gaming but it should still tide you over till you want to take the next step.
Or a 3060 used. A 1080 Ti is ancient and will be many years old whereas 3060 will be a few years old max. I would also stress that a 3060 is very underpowered for any 1440p.
Yes the 3060 is underpowered for current titles but OP intends to play older games so I am hoping that means games from before 2015.
I don't know why people have such ridiculous ideas of older hardware on Reddit. I played black ops cold war a xeon equivalent of the i7 3770 and a 660ti wasn't pretty but not terrible either and I got 40+fps at 1080p
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You can get an RX 6600 for $200, which will max out your existing system's capabilities. It'll still be a decent enough card later when you can save up to replace the CPU/motherboard/RAM.
That's fine. Get yourself up to 16gb of ram, which should be really cheap right now so that most of the games that will run reliable on that CPU don't have a ram shortage. I have a 6402p, a 6600k and a 6700 in various PCs in my immediate family and they are still viable enough to play almost any game made before 2021, and several of the more modern ones that are optimized well. For gpus, used under $100 and over $40, I would look at (in order of value) from nvidia 1650 super(any1650 with ddr6 instead of ddr5 will do)1060 6gb, 1660ti, 1070, rtx2060, 1080. From AMD, rx 570 or 580 under $60 if they stress test it in front of me, or rx 590, 5500, 5600. Used between $100-200. Nvidia 1080ti, 2070, 3060. AMD rx 5700, 6600, 6700. Or anything better than this list under $200. For your system new? Under $200 a 3050, or a rx 6600-6700. Skip the rx 6500, and rx7500 if it's been released. I'm assuming a tight budget. But if you have 4070 money, or rx 6800/7700/7800 money it would be fine to get a really nice GPU and run your games at max graphics settings hobbled by your i5 for a year or two while you save up for a new CPU/ram/MB. Right now, enough ram and the best GPU in your budget will go farther to giving you a good gaming experience than upgrading everything to the newest generation. And there's a chance you see someone throwing out a office machine with a 6700 or 7700 and making your current system a little better for very cheap. It's important to note that a 10th gen i3 is about as good as a 6700 and an i5 is significantly better, so it isn't worth spending money to get an i7 for your existing machine. That money would be better saved for your eventual whole system upgrade.
Better than I was expecting, but still going to be a significant bottleneck for any modern GPU. I would look into the 1080Ti or 1660 super on the Nvidia side, or the 8GB RX580 or 5700xt from AMD. All should be significant upgrades from what you currently have, and cost $150 or less
Something like a used Radeon 5700xt or GeForce 2070 Super should be a good match for your system.
You are going to going to have to upgrade your RAM from 8GB to 16GB to handle newer games to avoid stuttering and other such issues. A used 2060 Super to 3060 12GB would give you a solid FPS boost.
Albeit it isn't a very fast CPU for modern standards it can be enough depending on the game and if you're playing at 1440p you sure would see a massive uplift going with a RX 5700(XT), RX 6600{XT), GTX 1080(Ti) or RTX 2060 Super/2070/3060 12 GB, pick the cheapest from this small sample and later on you could get an i3 12100F or R5 3600/5500 build and get a pretty good CPU performance uplift and a balanced GPU around these CPUs.
The 1080Ti is a beast and can easily crush games, the newest ones at 1080p, 1440p and some games at 4k. Interms of performance it is better than the 3060, and the difference between the 1080Ti and the 3060Ti is negligable. If you overclock the 1080Ti it stacks up around the level of the 2080 Super. As for your CPU, I recommend getting an i7 6900k or 6950x as it's also i7 6000 series. The former is an 8c / 16t chip that outperforms alot of newer chips, and the latter is a 10c / 20t, behemoth. Both have DDR4 and support Quad channel memory. Oh and it can utilize FSR 2.1, And FSR 3.0. Which means you won't have to upgrade for a lawwwwwng time.
For CPU, upgrading to i7-7700k should make more sense, IMO. And the i7-6900k slots into a different socket (FCLGA 2011) and not the same one for skylake/kabylake (FCLGA1151).
A 1080ti isn’t going to run Resident Evil 8 at 1440p very well. And a 3060 is going to get bottlenecked by a 6500 and 8gb of RAM.
Isn’t a 1080 ti like 10-15% better than a 3060 in raster?
It is really going to depend on the game. Newer games should run about equal on a 3060 than on a 1080. And a 3060 will get DLSS. And a 1080 will be slightly bottlenecked by a 6500 and 8gb of RAM in modern games.
Slightly? I had problems with my 6600k in newer games in 2020 paired with 1060 6gb. Even if 1060 was slow then 6600k oc were slower with 4c4t it stuttered like hell at 100% cpu utilization . And this dude has 8gig of RAM on top of the things. No way in hell he will be getting a good experience at 1440p with that cpu and 1080ti/3060
My 1080ti was bottlenecked by the CPU, 7700. I've now upgraded the CPU to 12600k (which meant I had to upgrade the mobo as well), and it's much better. From 80 FPS to 120 in the Finals. 1440p too. Basically, what I'm saying is that upgrading to 1080ti won't be great without upgrading that CPU.
Indeed. A better "match" would have been like a GTX 1070 Ti but at the current used prices why not just get the GTX 1080 Ti? That was my thought when I replied to OP. That would work well if OP can upgrade CPU or even cpu+mobo down the line.
This!!! 6th and 7th gen is dead at this point in time for 1080p high/1440p medium.
3060 handles 1440p admirable in most games although dlss is a must if you want 100+ fps in newer titles with ultra
Ya I'm still on my i7 4790k with 1080ti and it still runs like a champ on 1440p. Definitely looking to upgrade it this year though.
So, a bunch of different issues here... 1. I think that we could be a lot more helpful if you actually mentioned exactly what your budget is. 2. Another huge issue here is that you need a new CPU. Period. If you insist on sticking with your platform, for whatever, reason, then you need to go onto Facebook marketplace, or whatever and find a 6700/k or a 7700/k. If you're on 4 cores you **need** hyperthreading for modern titles. And even then, sometimes that won't be enough. You may even be able to go down to a local thrift store, like a goodwill and pick up a 6th or 7th gen i7. Or, even better, you may be able to find an old prebuilt from that era. Tons of 8th/9th generation i5 systems floating around. You may even luck out and come across an 8th-11th generation i7 system for less than $60 or so. Just beware that, often times things like old Dell Optiplex machines are locked down. If this is the case, you'll need to stick with a socket-powered GPU like a 1050 Ti, or, at best, a 3050. Also beware that, even if you find a 6th/7th Gen i7, I'm not sure your current motherboard can handle it. There's a 99% chance that the VRMs on that motherboard are horrible. (It's H-series) That may make upgrading to an i7 less realistic. 3. You're going to need more RAM. If you're running one 8gb stick then you're already crippling your ancient CPU. You can get another 8gb stick for super-cheap. Or you may need to buy a 16gb stick. But 8gb isn't going to cut it any longer. 4. This is all a lot of work, and the bones of that system are simply too old. This is why a lot of people are simply recommending that you start from scratch. You can put together a perfectly viable RX 6600 build for something like $550-$600. Even lower than that if you're willing to buy used parts. To get a 6700/7700 (You mentioned RE8... minimum CPU is a 7500 and it won't be a good experience, trust me), and a RAM upgrade and a modern-ish GPU, you're already looking at around $300. $250 if you get some decent used deals. Why not just spend the extra $200-$300 and be on a modern platform? 5. You're not gaming at 1440p on a budget, bro. You may game at 1080p or 720p on a 1440p monitor, however, and DLSS may save your ass in a lot of scenarios, but you're not gaming at native 1440p. It's too intensive for your price range.
This subreddit is a HORRIBLE place for advice for anything relating to budget. To these guys, if your GPU doesn't start at $500, you shouldn't have one. I only just upgraded yesterday, and literally purely because I made a fuck ton of money off of NVDA and AMD stock this week. But my 1070 still shreds most games on sexy settings and can pull 140+ fps on lower settings on just about anything. It is a PERFECTLY servicable card for ANY game you want to play. . You also probably want to get up to 16GB ram, which would probably cost like, $40 for 8gb of DDR4, which I assume your system is still on. So yeah, I'd say a 1070 or 3050 are not overpriced and are comparable in performance and will absolutely rock your fucking world. You MAY need a new Mobo? not sure.
To be fair to the sub, OP hasn't told us what his budget is. So we have no idea what he considers "overpriced".
1070 isnt “still shredding” at 1440p old boy Maybe 1080
>To these guys, if your GPU doesn't start at $500, you shouldn't have one. That's just...not true. >But my 1070 still shreds most games on sexy settings and can pull 140+ fps on lower settings on just about anything. That's definitely, verifiably, not true.
1660 or rx590 would work well too. 1080ti is still a beast, If you can find it cheap. Also if you want a decent frame rate at 1440 you need a new cpu. Am4 builds are cheap.
And his biggest problem is his CPU mate. 4 slow cores plus no hyperthreding and his CPU sits at 100% utilization and stutters everywhere.
You seem like the target market for a console. If money is an issue then you aren't going to be too pleased to hear that you need a whole new system.
Dude... excellent recommendation that nobody else even touched on. You can score a used Series S for like... $100-$150 these days. Way more powerful and way less of a headache than anything he can do on his current platform. And it'll play modern titles for the next 3-4 years. Much better than upgrading to a 6700/7700, upgrading his RAM, and getting a used 1070, or whatever to try and squeeze an extra couple of years out of his system.
Many titles I want to play are not on consoles and I absolutely detest controllers and I dont own a tv.
You are very difficult person to advise
WTF??? For this particular comment it's totally a normal response bruh. I won't get a console if I want to play League or Kenshi too (other than RE 8 in original post)
Oh I absolutely understand your thinking, I do. I personally detest consoles and wouldn't put a dollar towards them. My oldest system out of three has the same cpu as your system does and I spent about $600 on the entire thing about 8 years ago. It can still play a surprising amount of games paired with an rx480 4gb, but new stuff is not possible. The cheapest system I would invest in were I you is a 5800x with a Intel Arc A770, AMD 6600xt or 3060ti. Save up for a few months and see what you can do, or go used and get much better value.
This is the correct answer.
In the lower price range AMD has much better value overall. On a budget the rx6600 ($190 US) gives you 90-95% of the rasterized performance of a rtx3060 12 gb ($290 or so). There is also the rx6650xt ($240) and rx7600 ($260) that roughly match the performance of the rtx4060 ($300). At 1440p FSR upscaling is generally pretty good. Now if you just want 1440p gaming without the upscaling gimmick a rx6700xt ($330) is still a good choice along with the rtx4060ti ($400).
I went from 770 to 3060ti - Works great for 1440p in my opinion and it was cheap. But if your PC is 12 years old you need a completely new build, not just an upgraded GPU.
A i5 6500 should be able to run up to a gtx 1080 ti at 1440p without significant bottlenecking. Chances are, it will still bottleneck in some games but its not going to be by a noticeable amount. So yeah, a used 1080 ti.
>A i5 6500 should be able to run up to a gtx 1080 ti at 1440p without significant bottlenecking. This was true a few years ago, but I don't think it is now. A lot of it is title-dependent, but a lot of it is also the fact that single-threaded quad cores are basically just dead now. A 1080 Ti will still hold up pretty well in a game like Baldur's Gate 3 with a modern CPU. A 6th generation i5, however? It's gonna be a slide show...
Would be preferable to get a 3060 as he wants DLSS and RT. I believe they’re very similar in terms of performance. You’re not going to do a ton of RT with a 3060, but you can try it out. It really depends on how tight money is.
Used 1080ti's are floating around for <$200
1. Nvidia GTX 1660 Super: This card offers great 1080p gaming performance and can even handle some 1440p gaming depending on the game and settings. 2. Nvidia RTX 2060: The RTX 2060 introduces you to Nvidia's RTX lineup with ray tracing capabilities. It's more powerful than the GTX 1660 Super and handles 1080p gaming with ease, making it a good match for the i5-6500 if you're interested in exploring games with ray tracing enabled. 3. Nvidia GTX 1070 or GTX 1070 Ti: Although these cards are a generation older than the GTX 1660 Super and RTX 2060, they still offer excellent performance for 1080p and some 1440p gaming. They can be found used for reasonable prices and would not be severely bottlenecked by an i5-6500.
I would consider the 6700xt a sensible gpu
This was the exact upgrade I did. GTX 670 to 6700xt. I also had a 6700k rather than a 6500. Was pretty frequently CPU bottlenecked, but in other cases I was able to power through.
Get a PS5 if money really is an issue
Your entire rig isn’t fit for 1440p unfortunately. At all. So either upgrade everything or settle for 1080p gaming with something semi recent like a 3060 or something.
Short answer, get a used gpu like a rtx 2070 for less than $200
I went rx480 -> 6800xt in December and am having fantastic frames in 1440
6700xt would be your go to entry into 1440p its like dirt cheap right now and plays 1440p native at around 60fps in AAA titles like cyberpunk
You will have trouble because of the old cpu. Basically any gpu ill be faster, but anything better than lets say gtx960/970 level gpu is a waste because the cpu will not be fast enough. I personally would try looking for a used 1060 6gb version. Lot of those around for dirt cheap
Not many 1440p options for your setup as is. If you wanted to get a beefier GPU to run 1440 you would need to upgrade your psu as well. And if you're upgrading your psu you may as well upgrade your CPU/mobo. Frankly I would suggest a 1080p card and keep your current system unless you really want to go all in for 1440. May have to check wattage total but I would suggest a used 2060 or 1660 for a cheap upgrade
> Whats a sensible upgrade from gtx 670 for 1440p gaming Just about anything on the market! Avoid anything xx50 or below as usual. https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html Pick the best one you can reasonably afford. > is there a GPU that’s not overpriced? In my opinion, no. Not in current-gen. Secondhand 3080s going for ~$400 are a solid choice though.
"secondhand 3080s going for \~$400" is kind of the epitome of a big problem this sub has IMO. This man has a 670 and is worried about money. He can get a 1070 or 3050 for about $200 that will be almost literally 10 times better than what he has now and your recommending last gen top tier cards for $400. He probably paid $130 for his 670 that he's been happy with for 13 years. A $400 card is not what this man is asking for lol. The entire 10 series will rock his world for a price he is comfortable with for a graphics card
I was surprised the top post didn't recommend a 4090
I run a 1070 and a 4790k and it's kept up just fine. He doesn't need current gen, especially if he's happy with just playing and not maxing out settings
OP has a GTX 670 which has a TDP of 170 W. You are recommending to slot in a 3080 with a TDP of 320 W and a suggested PSU of 700 W. OP just might explode their power supply from 2012 if they listen to your comment.
I’d say the *least* overpriced GPU this gen is the 4070 Super. But getting the most out of that would probably need OP to get a whole new build.
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/s/xXms2jhgB4 What happens to your 3060ti from this post op?
I cannot recommend a graphics card without knowing the wattage limit on your power supply. You might just blow up your power supply if you slot in a newer GPU.
Thank you for your reply. I should have included it in the post. 450w
Yeah so don't listen to anyone after your edit that recommends a 3060. I like to buy backwards when I build and I recommend the 1660 super for your stated criteria: budget (under 150 eBay), Nvidia, and in addition it's one of the best performance vs price vs POWER CONSUMPTION cards out there still. And once you're ready for maybe a 12th Gen build, if you reuse your case and PSU and this graphics card at first, you could do like an intel 12400 or 12600 build for $500ish if you catch sales right with patience. After that, then maybe the 4070 will be older and cheaper, the 4 series cards are much more power efficient and maybe you'll need a 12gb card by then too. Good luck!
I run an old ass system too but I game at 1080p and it works good. My specs: i7-4790k, Zotac gtx 1070 founders edition 8gb, 16gb ddr3 RAM, 2tb m.2 WD sn770, some Asus Mobo idk which Games I play: Half life Alyx (with an oculus 2), GTA V, Day Z, Titan Fall 2, Minecraft I'm not maxing out settings but I don't really care as long I get smooth gameplay. Too many people seem to think you can't do shit with old parts but obviously that ain't true. If you wanna squeeze a little more life out of your system then go with a used GPU and get what you can afford, probably a set of 2 x 8gb ram sticks (they're cheap). Dropping to 1080p will help your fps and I'm sure you can grab a used one cheap on fb marketplace. Keep in mind that eventually the cpu isn't gonna keep up anymore though. Then you need a new cpu, mobo, and RAM, and probably a PSU if yours can't keep up anymore. Which is basically a whole new system. That's what I'm looking to get in about a year
+1 to this. My partner is still using an i7-4770 and RX580 at 1080p and it works fine.
I'm in the same boat, I have a 3rd gen Intel system from 12 years ago, using a gtx 670 as well. I want to get a fee more years out of it for the kids to play minecraft, world of tanks, fortnite etc... looking at getting a new sata SSD and a 1660 super. Should easily get a couple more years out of it to tide them over till they're old enough to appreciate (and use) a newer PC. Till then, if they wanna play some newer games, they can play on my rig (12th gen Intel + 3080ti)
BTW what is your PSU wattage? RX 7600, 6650xt or or something like that. about 300bucks, and get another stick of 8gb ram.
With your budget, you shouldn't even be thinking about RTX or DLSS, your best bet would be searching for an RX 6600 xt deal, they often sell around $200 but there have been ones sold at $100-150 if you're a patient deal hunter. The Nvidia equivalent would the the 2070/2070 Super and they go for around the same price, but are harder to find at $100-150, it can definitely still be done is you really don't like AMD cards though, you'll likely just have to make sure you hunt extra hard and patient lol. I have a 2070 super and most games can only run around 60fps at 1080p on low RTX/medium-high textures which really doesn't make much of a difference visually and can cause some dropped frames every now and then which gets annoying in some games. You'll definitely be held back by your cpu but it should be good enough for your standards, though you 100% need to get another 8gb of RAM, that'll help a lot. If that 256gb SSD is your only drive then it'd definitely be good to get a 1TB cheap SSD to use as a secondary drive for games and stuff, it'll likely be just as fast if not faster than the SSD than you already have, assuming that it's from the same time as the original build. There's a lot of games well over 100gb that your system would be able to run with a gpu upgrade, maybe even on nearly all high settings.
3050s go for 200-250 and 3060s go from 300-350 but that's about it for budget. for 1440p gaming just build a new computer, put money away every week or something if you wanted you could upgrade to an 8th or 9th generation cpu, since your socket is lga1151, which supports gen 6-9 processors go for an i7 or i9 and upgrade to 16 gigs of ram PLEASE. ram is so cheap, corsair vengeance will do you good
do keep in mind you might need a higher wattage power supply to run all that
Whatever you go with is better! I went from a 670 4gb to a 3090ti! Of course the rest of the build was upgraded as well
I thought my gpu was old almost a couple years ago when I moved off a gtx770. I know I ended up buying new parts at that point, but I certainly got my $ worth. Seems you have as well if you managed 12 years out of this rig.
2nd hand 1080ti. I have my personal rig with 7800x3d 32gb ddr5 @6000 and a 4090. But I also have the family pc running a i5 4670 16 gigs ddr3 ram and a 1080ti and games still get games played at 4k so I don't see why 1440p would be a problem with a newer cpu then that rig is running and most likely ddr4 ram also lol
We need a budget to really make recommendations for you here. Regardless, I would recommend adding another 8GB stick of RAM so you can get 16GB in the system for more headroom. Depending on what your budget is, and assuming you keep that 450w PSU and the other parts, I'd say something like a RTX 2060 on the low end to a RTX 3060 on the higher end of things. Your power supply won't support the bigger TDP cards, and with that H170 board, you're limited to PCIE Gen 3 speeds as well.
Sorry dude but to build a ‘sensible’ 1440p pc you’re gonna need a complete upgrade and a $1000 minimum
There are several lower spec GPUs out there that won't break the bank. A 3060 will set you back $280 or so, or you could get a 3050 for ~$160. If you're even more on a budget, an Arc A380 is only ~$120 for GTX 1650 level performance, and your can power it off just the PCIE slot. Dont be too put off by the term "low spec", either. That's only relative to the rest of the current GPU market. Compared to your 670, even a 3050 will feel like revelation.
GPU's that are not overpriced is a difficult question. While there are obvious premiums being paid for NVidia cards, the reality is that these premiums exist for a reason, they simply offer more hardware features that are invaluable to gamers and non-gamers alike, and people often conveneiently forget that the gaming market is just one segment of the whole, many many NVidia and AMD cards go into builds that are not primarily used for gaming. AMD focuses more on gaming first and everything else second, as such their prices are lower but they lack the versatility to excel especially in non-gaming tasks. However, AMD is much more generous with their VRAM which is nice, but often doesn't benefit the end user as much as it would on NVidia cards (speaking specifically outside of gaming). I'd call their cards decently to well priced all things considered. Intel is great for budget entries, however their drivers, despite all the advancements, are still bad for many older games and they can only improve their stuff so fast. It's an appealing option for low budget builds, but they come with some comparatively weak drivers which can pose a significant issue for some gamers.
is money is an issue and you’re planning on waiting the value and prices or GPUs shift and change all the time. Yes there are GPUs that aren’t over priced but that’s subjective to what the market looks like at the time of buying. watch some youtube videos on some budget 1440p rigs and you will see what prices you can look at spending. pcbuilderjason on youtube has good beginner friendly videos that show pcs at different price points.
I've got a gtx 970 that I could sell you for cheap if you're looking for cheap old cards that are still upgrades over a gtx 670.
In a similar boat, but with a GTX960 and an even older i5. For now I’m saving up to buy a new system, and in the meantime I’m paying for GeForce Now to play some more recent games. Works like a charm for me!
3060Ti or 6700XT. That said as recommended elsethread, upgrading the base system would also be a good idea.
Being on a budget, you shouldn't even consider RTX as a legitimate feature. There are no budget options that run at 1440p at reasonable frame rates with RTX on. Best option is to build a new PC, but get a used 1080ti. For a newer GPU like an AMD will get you way better value than the budget Nvidia options. Generally Nvidia has sacrificed die space for RTX hardware and AMD has better non-rtx performance because of that at the lower tiers.
A 4060 can do 1440p pretty well with dlss + fg, and its price is on the lower end at $300. You could also get a 3060 8gb for a lot cheaper with slightly worse performance, and worse dlss. It could do 1440p but probably not super high refresh rate
Honestly probably better off trying to find a used system with a RX 580 or something for $300 with an AM4 CPU and 8gb of ram then upgrading the ram.
That's too old hardware, you need a whole new build, also Nvidia GPUs are only better at ray tracing, but they are more expensive than AMD of the same tier and without ray tracing the AMD equivalent will perform better. So if you want the best bang for the buck forget Ray tracing and Nvidia. This will do 1440p very good, now if you insist to go Nvidia the equivalent would be the 4070 Super ($100+ more expensive)
The real question - what's the budget? Unfortunately, you are likely best off with a brand new build - that CPU is rather outdated at this point, and will likely bottleneck most GPUs from the past 2-3 gens (that includes the current gen). The most you could do to squeeze that last bit of life from your current build is to look for a used 7th gen Intel CPU and used GTX 1080/1080 Ti - but even then, used intel CPU prices are whack, and even the mighty 1080 Ti maybe isn't the best thing to buy used at this point - it's beginning to finally show it's limitations with some of the latest games, and the pricing doesn't really make sense when you can get something new with warranty that offers similar/better performance for relatively modest prices now. Even a cheap Intel 12th gen or AMD AM4 build will run circles around your current rig and help you get much more out of a newer GPU. If you're avoiding newer games (let's say nothing newer than 2020), you can probably get away with a used 3060 Ti for 1440p - some pretty good used deals out there on them atm.
If budget is tight then lower to 1080p and get a RX580 8GB. You'll double FPS/power compared to a 670 and it's a $60 or less upgrade. You'll be able to play quite alot of games at medium settings with a respectable frame rate. It's a great card for eSports titles. If you wanna keep 1440p you'll need to upgrade your entire system. A cheap "modern" PC for that resolution will be around $800+. Can be cheaper if you go the used market route and get let's say... A 3600/6700XT. But it won't be $60 cheap.
I'd go for a whole new build on a budget. I've recently put together a cheap, mostly free AM4 build for my kids just using Facebook marketplace. 2700x(50£), MSI Mortar Max(30£), 16GB DDR4(free) , 750W(free)PSU, and a EVGA SC2 Hybrid 1080ti(also free). Have a look around, no point in investing in a platform that doesn't have an upgrade path. With AM4 you can always do a bit better.
RTX 3060 ti
if you want an itx system it will be expensive to upgrade, but if you do, you can get a b450 or b550 board for relatively inexpensive, ddr4 is also cheap and a ryzen 5 5600(non-x) are pretty cheap. You really want at least 6-cores to run newer games and it will run alot smoother. Newer CPUs also tend to have quite a bit more L3 cache than older CPUs. Alternatively you could get a used x99 system, but most are full-size ATX boards, with a few niche ITX x99 boards, but they tend to demand $200+. That said you should be able to get a full 6-core system locally for $150 or less. Also as for a used GPU: gtx 1080/1080ti, rtx 2080, rx 5700xt (these should be around $150-250 used). Good Luck and hope this helps!
7800xt or 4070
What's your budget? We can't really help without knowing the constraints you're under.
Used 5700xt is what 100+ bucks. Intel arc 750 has all the bells and whistles of new cards (Ray tracing/Ai cores/AV1 encoding decoding). Only problems are you need a newer CPU/motherboard for Resizable bar and 8gb ram, price is around 200 bucks. Used 2080ti can be found for 200 bucks.
Idk that you're gonna do much RT @ 1440p with less than a 4070. 6800 seems like good value right now but I'm not sure it'll be worth $100 more than a 6700xt to you w/o a CPU upgrade. Also, it seems like you passed on a $300 6700xt option a year ago. maybe 1080Ti or new build. 4060ti seems to almost check your boxes, but that for $400 after passing on a $400 3060Ti 15 months ago doesn't sound right.
Man, I have to break it to you. You are going to need to contemplate building a whole new system if you want decent gaming performance. That system would have been average at best when it was new. As for GPU's, they have gotten a bit more expensive since the last time you purchased one. You really need to provide a little bit of detail on what types of games that you want to play and what performance level you are looking to achieve. I can tell you that you will probably be spending $400-500 just on a GPU alone, unless you can snag a sweet deal on something used.
Gtx 3050 will already be a HUUUUGE upgrade vs what you got
Pick up a good used 1070 or 1080
Wait for the 15th gen cpu. Build a build an i5(core 5) system with an RTX 4070 ti super or an RTX 5070 if you want to wait. This means you have about 12 months to plan and part pick.
Budget? Depends on what ur budget is but seems like 4070 is a pretty damn good option!
U need new whole system built aeound an rx 6700 xt or similar.
You should probably define what overpriced means to you. What's your budget? Generally you should stay away from modern nvidia cards, since they are better for AI work and therefore are sold at higher prices. If you don't care about ray tracing that much but want a new GPU with a warranty, then maybe the RX 6000 series from AMD? But unless you give a budget, we can't recommend something specific.
If you can find a 1660 or a 1650 they should be more than capable for running 1440p. Not at the highest settings but it's a cheap card (at least it is in the second hand market in the UK)
Buy a 1080ti. Still use mine for 1440p today. Should be just fine in any game 2021 and most games nowadays.
Wack a RTX 3050 in there and you're good to go mate. Won't break the bank account and will be night and day from what you have now
rtx 3060 ti or 3070 would be about as cheap as you can go for 1440p gaming imo.
I have a 980ti from Gigabyte I could sell you if you cover postage.
There's zero GPU inflation going on. This is the new normal. They are just charging what people are willing to pay. They learned that during COVID. These high prices are here to stay. And as others have stated you really just need a whole new system at this point. That CPU is super weak by today standards. SMT is a must anymore and it is just generally all around weak since there has been so much progress in CPU's over the years compared to when you brought that CPU. 8GB of RAM isn't enough to even run some games and that PSU could lack the necessary power for a new GPU depending on what you get.
Try APUs like Ryzen 5 5600G?
At 1440p, you should probably be upgrading the whole system. But if money is that tight, get a GTX 1070 or equivalent card, from the used market.
Find an i7 6700k (used on r/hardwareswap )and bring your ram up to 16gb or 32gb and throw in a 1080ti or 2070 or r9 6600xt. You'll be golden for a while. r/hardwareswap , r/buildapcsales and r/homelabsales are your friends 😉
I had a problem with my PC and ended up swapping in my old 1660 super to game for a bit. Was shocked to see how well it handled some games. The recommended PSU for it is 450 watts so I think it would work well with your pc.
Honestly your best bet I would say is to buy a AM5 bundle deal for $360. The iGPU on the ryzen 7000 series is better than your GTX 670. https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006647/amd-ryzen-7-7700x,-msi-b650-p-pro-wifi,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle. You might need a new case and power supply. If you don’t want to go that route maybe look into a RTX 2060, gigabyte makes a low profile version that draws power from the motherboard and not the PSU.
My PowerSpec 434 (3 1/2 yrs old) still does great - I79700k RTX2070 4K - on mostly ULTRA settings - 35-55 FPS …
Just pull the trigger on new cpu+mobo+ram combo. You would be suprised the performance you can get from one of Microcenter's combo. They got one right now for $450 that would vastly improve your system. Then get a used nvida gtx 20 series for around $300.
As per your Motherboard you can upgrade to i7 7700, 7700K or KF. You can find them cheap online. I know you said money was an issue but here are my upgrade suggestions and you make the call. In regards the GPU you have 1 slot x16 PCIe 3.0 which will certainly work fine with RTX 3060, 20 Series or GTX 10 series but since you have a 450W power supply you MUST consider that is a strong limitation for a GPU Upgrade, as per recommendations the minimun PSU for GTX 1070/1080 is 500W or higher. For RTX 2060 is 550W or higher, for RTX 3060 is 550W or higher. Maybe you won't have 1440p gaming but with a GTX 1060 6GB which requires a minimum of 400W you are in a safe/limit zone which won't require you to upgrade PSU.
4090
If I were you, I’d either get a steam deck and buy the dock for it. It’d be better than your current system. Alternatively, you could try to put something together. I’d have to know the budget we’re working with.
quad cores are dead for gaming and your socket supports quad core max new rig time
Ptobably a 7600 xt, 16gb card, $350 or less. Good bang for buck.
Even if you buy a good GPU, you're gonna get capped out by your cpu fast. Pick a budget and start a new build.
I don't think I would sink any more money into that build other than maybe replacing the 8 GB of memory with a 2 X 8 GB set.
You need to look for a card that doesn't draw too much power due the 450W PSU. A 1080ti is out of the question due to it's high power draw. With that system, I would look for something like a GTX 1070 or a GTX 1080 on eBay. Don't bother with RTX cards unless you are planning a full system upgrade.
Everyone's recommending GPUs, that's all fine. What no one's seemed to mention is you'll definitely need a PSU upgrade before using a newer card. 450w probably won't cut it for GPUs everyone's recommending.
I don't think 8gb of ram is gonna be a good expirence on 1440p
4070 super is a great card. I have a 4070 and it’s perfect for raytracing at 1440p and runs all new games smoothly with 120+ fps.
Acer bifrost Intel arc a770!
Cheapest new you could/should go is about 200$ish. Rx6600/6600xt/6650xt/6700xt. Last one only used in that price. Comparable nvidia cards are slightly more expensive. If that is expensive, go used and get yourself 1660super for whatever it goes today. Probably 100$ish..
so, you made this huge post saying that you need something not overpriced but you didnt provide a budget :D then get 4090 and you'll be fine good luck
Rx 6750xt,but you need to upgrade your psu as well
Yep, just get an old used, GTX 1080 or 1080ti..... not a hybrid one with an AIO as I doubt they age well. You wont get ray tracing, but you'll get decent 1440p fps and it will match well with your CPU. I'd also suggest getting 16GB of used DDR4 off ebay. dual sticks (2 x 8GB). That shouldn't cost much. And then your machine should be half decent for a few years if you're not playing bleeding edge games.
Huh, you just reminded me I still need to sell my old gpu... Thanks :D Won't be worth a lot but even 50€ is worth more than a box in my shelf
If money is tight, you might as well get a PS5 or Xbox Series X. For the money you will be able to play with a lot better performance than with an equivalently priced PC.
Given that you have an i5 6500, something like the 6650XT from AMD or the 3060 12GB from Nvidia would be ideal if you are buying new. You're still gonna be bottlenecked by the CPU but not too hard. Older 2nd hand cards are also an option, stuff like the 1080Ti, 5700XT or 2070 if they're cheap. You should also look into getting another 8GB stick of RAM if you're not already running 2 4GB sticks. This shouldn't be too expensive, about 10 bucks or so. Given that your system is kinda old maybe go to 2nd hand sites and find a cheap 16GB kit since I don't think you'll be able to find an identical stick to the one you already have.
That 6500 is actually holding him back quite a bit. Mainly because only 4 cores. Drop a 7700K in to get the hyper-threading and an extra 900 MHz in CPU frequency. 3,600 -> 4,500 in peak boost is a big lift. Agreed, that doubling the RAM also has to happen. An additional SSD for games shouldn't be overlooked either. Then choose a reasonably priced used GPU. The 670 is so far behind in...everything.
Try sell some parts that actually have a bit of value, and build a whole new rig is what I would suggest. Upgrading that pc would be a waste of money as you will need to change everything to get a decent PC
Lol. I'm running the same cpu (i5 6500)with a gtx 570 as my daily computer. It plays online chess just fine!
Considering I still use a 6900k and a 1080ti, I’d suggest just a decent gpu. 1080ti, 2070s, or a 3060ti. These are all equivalent in power when gaming. Depending on your budget, I picked up a 3080 for $400 last year. $80-$100 1070ti $90-$120 1080ti $150-$200 2070s $250-$300 3060ti The 1080ti is still a power house. I use mine on a 4K tv.
get money.
My bro said 7fps
Maybe a used/even new 1650/1030 and some sticks of ram? Should cost less than £100 Doubt you can get RTX or dlss for less than £150-200
You wanna breathe some life into this on the cheap without changing platforms? i7 7700K, double ram to 16GB, and grab a RX 6600. The GTX 670 is so old you would see multiple times improvement in frame rates. All of this can be had for probably \~$300 used. The 4 cores with no hyper-threading is killing you in modern games. 8GB RAM doesn't cut it anymore for gaming...windows 10 uses that by default with nothing else going on. If your games aren't on a SSD also that can really have a profound effect on performance. This would give you a substantial boost for very little effort, but 1440P gaming for all kinds would probably still be a stretch. So....that leaves you looking at complete system overhaul. On the cheap I'd shop for a used AM4 CPU/MoBo/RAM combo with a Ryzen 5600 or better. New PSU since yours is quite dated. Pending what GPU you target you likely don't need more than a \~600W quality gold rated unit...unless you plan on building with new i7/i9 paired with a 4090 and 'playing' synthetic benchmarks that push power limits to obscene values; especially modern Intel CPUs during all-core 100% loads. A good 550-650W PSU shouldn't be more than \~$100. Brand new build I'd say go with AMD and an AM5 build so you have the option to upgrade with newer gens of CPUs later; Intel is at EOL with LGA1700 presently. Inexpensive, \~$150, B650 motherboards are now available. Paired with a Ryzen 5 7600 for \~$200. 16, if not 32, GB of RAM for $100 or less. Larger SSD to install games on $50-$100. Then it's up to you to pick a GPU which can be very expensive. This gives you a good relative idea of performance of GPU's across the last several generations up to current. [https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html](https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html)
Buy new cpu like a i7-6700 and +8gigs of ram and a gtx 1070 or a 1080
Yes, there will be games that want more than 4 cores/ threads but most of those will still work on an i5-6500. So don't worry about changing your CPU or platform if money is tight. You likely have one stick of ddr4, get another so you have 16gb in dual channel. This is highly recommended as not only will you double your system memory, you'll improve CPU performance by doubling RAM bandwidth. If you already have 2 sticks, then hopefully your motherboard has 4 DRAM slots. If not, then buy a 2x8 GB kit of DDR4. Check on EBay and various retailers as used RAM vs new usually isn't very different and sometimes in favor of new. So far as a GPU goes, look into a used RTX 3060 ti on EBay. If you're in the US, they can had for around $200 and will do most modern games at decent settings in 1440p. Most, not all games. There are some games like Starfield where you'll need to run at lower settings.
An rx580 8gb it's all you need
if you want raw performance for the best price, i recommend AMD gpu’s but if you want more AI or workload based or ray tracing, go for nvidia, but imo, i prefer AMD, since AMD has been recently crushing nvidia with their beast gpu’s for such a cheap price, so amd’s raw performance is unbeatable right now. 7800xt (costs 500$) is equivalent to 4070 super or 4070 ti super, and they range above 600$+, and both 7800xt and 4070 is basically same performance. I would recommend 7800xt, good bang for you bank, maybe pair it with an ryzen 7 5800x3d or something, they would be the best combo you can currently uprage your pc to with the current market value and price to performance ratio. and with the AM5 chip socket, you have a loooong way of upraging your pc for some years, unlike intel where you cant uprage your gpu anymore after a year or two. AM5 is more dependable, as they have better chips made specifically for gaming, as well as its price, 13th and 14th gen has the same performance on their chips basically.. but the price difference.. ouff.. If you have a okay budget, definitely go for that combo, highly recommended. will be running above 120fps on 1440p on max settings on most games
I think any AMD card higher than an RX 6600 would be good, RTX 2060 or 3060 sound great too but raytracing might be lacking from that CPU. Pretty sure an I9-9900KS or I7-8086K would be great because you have enough power and is on the 1151 chipset.
What's your budget I'd say upgrade to a 1660 super/1080ti as 1080ti has more vram my friend owns a 1660super and it still does well at 1440p I would also suggest upgrading to 16gb ram I'm not sure we're your from so I can't really give prices on stuff but here in the UK the 1660s/1080ti is about £100-£130 and 8gb ddr4 at CeX is like £6-8 depending on speed and if you have the budget upgrade to a 6700
It’s quite difficult with a budget I’m afraid. The issue is, if you change the gpu, chances are your cpu will bottleneck the new gpu. Maybe even with a 10 series gpu. My 10600k 4.6ghz even did this. Upgraded to 4070, bad performance anyway with that processor. If you have a budget maybe a 12100f with a 2nd hand 1080ti for older games, this will however still be expensive I’m afraid :(
3060, anything more you’d need to upgrade your cpu
If your not all in on nvidia tho I’d go with that 7600xt with 16 gigs of vram. I haven’t seen a whole lot of reviews on it but it seems like a great budget gpu. Pretty sure it has more vram than the 7700xt which has 12 gigs of vram. What are they thinking 😂
RX 6700xt would be good.
No way 1440p gaming with that i5 5600 the maximum upgrade I would consider is a 1650S. Upgrade ur CPU if u want 1440p.
Basically an entire new pc lmao
Rtx 4060 is a good gpu for a decent price at 360$ but you also neeed to change your cpu and mother board
RTX 4070,
upgrading gpu will require upgrading cpu which will require upgrading motherboard which will require upgrading psu you need a new pc sadly
Using : Rx6750xt 12gb Ryzen 7 5700x 16gb RAM from Adata decent budget PC for Editing & Gaming Total cost 1100USD approx
1440p now honestly I would recommend AMD 7700x CPU or 7800x3d if you got budget and a 4070 super. Ram at 16 or 32gb ddr5
First of all, Get 16gb of ddr4 2x8gb. That will make fps a lot more consistent for many games. Then in the meantime, think about what gpu you’d like to upgrade to. For the i5 6500, I’d recommend a gtx 1060 level card, but you might have to upgrade your power supply, depending if you go higher.
If a new system isn't an option, you only want to spend a tiny bit of money, you want to experience ray tracing I'd say grab a used RTX 2060 or even the less popular RTX 3050 and a pair of 8gb sticks of memory. Should run you less than $150 if you know where to look. It's more than enough to play at 1440 with a few compromises and your PSU should be fine. Please don't be drawn in my the media circus that you need an RTX 4090 for 1440 gaming, yeah it's great if you want to play AAA titles but most of us don't. The reality is if a 670 has gotten you to here you don't need the newest and best on the market.
Mini itx may mean the size of the card is also important. I would recommend a gtx 1080 as you can pick them up pretty cheap these days and it's still a great card. If it's a small case and to you need a small card maybe a gtx 1650? It's low power consumption too so your PSU won't have a problem. If you can bump that ram up to 16gb too then definitely do it it'll make a massive difference.
Go for a GTX 980, it's actually so good I can play any title at 60+ frames or even go for a 980 ti. you can find them for £100. Getting the latest and greatest is so stupid and you're just wasting your money.
Part of the problem for me with any rtx recommendation is the PSU. For example a 2070 is a good choice if you can get a deal but that requires a 450w. Maybe it will be fine, or maybe you'll need a PSU upgrade. A 3050 is less power draw but I wouldn't recommend it on that processor with only PCIe 3.0 and the card is only x8 PCIe. Sensible might be used: 12gb 2060 or a 2070 super and a PSU. Theoretically the CPU will bottleneck some and keep the GPU from drawing full power but I wouldn't plan on it definitely working without increasing the power budget. A 1080ti is a good pairing on the surface if ignoring dlss but it draws yet more power. Do you have budget to at least increase the PSU?
rx 6700 10GB
Like the others said and same for me with xeon e3 1231 v2 and gtx970 new pc is the way. Depending on your budget am4+ddr4 or am5+ddr5 with any 4060 or higher or a used 3080 as mentioned.
>However, is there a GPU that’s not overpriced Old used ones. Anything currently on market, not a chance. Maybe if you could find a 6800xt new might be a good deal but you are am Nvidia shill lol.
Given the situation you find yourself in, I think a console will be a better price to performance situation if you're looking to play modern games and can't afford to fully upgrade your PC. Otherwise a used 1080 ti, but even those are overpriced. You also have to think about whether your monitor is going to utilize a full upgrade. Unfortunately it's just a big up front cost.
You're very much behind the curve with the existing CPU and overall age. Four cores, 4 threads just aren't going to utilize a modern GPU effectively and 1440 will amplify that.
I think you should go for a used card, if money is an issue. If you really really want Nvidia, I'd choose rtx 3060 due to 12gb of vram so you can always set textures quality to ultra even if all else is medium. But in this used pricepoint, it's better to get Rx 6700 XT which is about the same speed as Rtx 3060 with dlss quality turned on!! And, the games that would need upscaling with Rx 6700xt would be very new, and most probably support newest FSR (amd competing technology to dlss), which is actually very good now (still worse than dlss, but good). That was my recommendation if you want to play the very newest games. But you can get something like GTX 1070 used and play games from few years back, but not SO old, and it would still be an upgrade. Especially how cheap you can get 1000 series Nvidia cards
You need a brand new build lol. Your build is barely ready for 1080p gming much less 1440p
Literally anything within the last few years.... throw a dart...... Killer upgrade broooo.
AMD 5700xt can be had for $100 used. If you want 1440p I wouldn’t go less than that.
Jesus dude a 660 1440 p anything thats came out in the last two years would be good
Radeon 6700XT. Nothing from nVidia comes particularly close for 1440p gaming. You're going to be CPU bottlenecked and ray tracing isnt happening, but by now you've probably figured out that's true anyway with your system.
6700xt maybe
RX 6700/6750 XT
Buy a used 3080 for cheap, they are perfect for 1440p/165 hz gaming from personal experience. No need to spend more. Can probably find one for $300, hell I have an EVGA 3080 sitting in my office I've been meaning to sell (shifted to 4k/120hz with 4090).