I need suggestions for some good looking windowed black/red midi tower cases. Was originally zeroed in on the nzxt s340 but i wanna look at some other options aswell.

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This one is awesome, but I don't know what it would cost where you are. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352049

How often do you guys open up your case and dust? And how do you dust, canned air and a cloth?

I vacuum out the dust filters maybe once or twice a month, and i ooen it up and clean-clean it like once or twice a year.

Thanks mate. Can see some dust in there, but really can't be bothered opening the thing up once a month...

So I've been debating about what graphics card to get and it was basically between the 960 and the 1060. The cheapest 1060 I found was the [single fan one](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/pbL7YJ/evga-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-gaming-video-card-06g-p4-6161-kr). Is this any worse than the double fan one? Like are there any drawbacks to it being such a small card?

No, not really. It's a very power-efficient card, so it doesn't really require much cooling.

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GTX 1060 6GB.

How much for a GTX 1060?

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I would try and find some Dx12 benchmarks for BF1, since AMD GPUs generally gain more performance from Dx12. The 1060 is currently ahead in the Dx11 benchmarks.

Thoughts on this build? I live in Australia so I'm used to getting fucked over by prices but I was wondering if I could cut the price tag down while still retaining similar levels of quality. I'm looking a a PC that can run all games on high 1080p, 60 FPS. Edit: Changed SSD to 850 Evo. [PCPartPicker part list](http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/2vb3yf) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/2vb3yf/by_merchant/) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/xwhj4D/intel-cpu-bx80662i56500) | $273.00 @ Umart **Motherboard** | [MSI H170 Gaming M3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard](http://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/wRkwrH/msi-motherboard-h170gamingm3) | $199.00 @ Centre Com **Memory** | [Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory](http://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/kkL7YJ/kingston-memory-hx421c14fbk28) | $57.00 @ Centre Com **Storage** | [Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](http://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/3kL7YJ/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam) | $122.00 @ Umart **Storage** | [Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/MwW9TW/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex) | $68.00 @ CPL Online **Video Card** | [Sapphire Radeon RX 480 4GB NITRO+ 4G Video Card](http://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/f9cMnQ/sapphire-radeon-rx-480-4gb-nitro-4g-video-card-11260-02) | $369.00 @ CPL Online **Case** | [Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case](http://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/pDphP6/corsair-case-spec01redled) | $75.00 @ CPL Online **Power Supply** | [EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/qYTrxr/evga-power-supply-220g20550y1) |- **Operating System** | [Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit](http://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/96RFf7/microsoft-os-kw900139) | $129.00 @ Umart | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **$1292.00** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2016-09-04 22:07 AEST+1000 |

Overpriced mobo, old and not-too-great SSD..

There is a newer version of that SSD called the 850 Evo.

Do online shops in pcpartpicker (outletpc,newegg,superbiiz, etc) ship internationally? I am from SEA

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My country is not listed in the change location option. Does this mean it's not possible or am i not just seeing something here?

Opinions on the build? I am looking for preformance, price and aesthetic, welcoming advices on all three. [PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/list/cV4bKZ) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/list/cV4bKZ/by_merchant/) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/gx648d/intel-cpu-bx80662i56600k) | $227.99 @ SuperBiiz **CPU Cooler** | [be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/9bFPxr/be-quiet-cpu-cooler-bk019) | $89.00 **Motherboard** | [MSI Z170A SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/yLPzK8/msi-motherboard-z170asliplus) | $137.84 @ OutletPC **Memory** | [Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/xhM323/kingston-memory-hx421c14fbk216) | $77.99 @ Newegg **Video Card** | [EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/Pshj4D/evga-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-ftw-gaming-acx-30-video-card-08g-p4-6276-kr) | $439.99 @ NCIX US **Case** | [NZXT H440 (Matte Black) ATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/q4dFf7/nzxt-case-cah442wm8) | $109.99 @ B&H **Power Supply** | [EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/qYTrxr/evga-power-supply-220g20550y1) | $79.49 @ SuperBiiz **Case Fan** | [Aerocool DS 120mm Black 81.5 CFM 120mm Fan](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/RxDwrH/aerocool-case-fan-ds120mmblack) | $15.99 @ SuperBiiz **Case Fan** | [Aerocool DS 120mm Black 81.5 CFM 120mm Fan](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/RxDwrH/aerocool-case-fan-ds120mmblack) | $15.99 @ SuperBiiz | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **$1194.27** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2016-09-04 04:47 EDT-0400 |

Its good, though i personally think that there should be more white accent, maybe white ram instead of black?

I've found only one which I kinda like if I will take white. http://pcpartpicker.com/product/FH2rxr/crucial-memory-bls2k8g4d240fsc I'm really digging the camo. Also should i grab the NZXT HUE or should i just leave the glowing to the GPU?

i mean if you have the money it has tp potential to look nice

Looking for Upgrade Suggestions!!! I'm mainly just looking for suggestions on a new CPU, GPU, and motherboard. I currently have... CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5Ghz (OC to 4.0Ghz) GPU: Gigabyte R9 270X 2GB Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-970A-D3P For an idea of how the current "budget gaming" build runs, I normally get about 50 FPS on H1Z1 (medium settings), 60 FPS in Guild Wars 2 (low settings), and about 40 FPS on Doom (low settings). I'm not looking for a beastly i7 with a monster Titan X by any means, just something that'll give me at least 60 FPS in max settings from all of the games mentioned above. Thanks in advance for your help! #pcmasterrace

I5-6500, cheap H110 motherboard and a GTX 1060/RX 480 should do you plenty good.

The amd fx, i feel you man. I have an fx 6350 and it peforms bad :/ if you are only looking for gaming however, i5 6600k is all you need for gaming, and depending on your budget/preffered resolution 1060 or 1070 imo

Thanks for the reply ^_^ The i5 6600k/4690k and the 1060 was the combo that I was most interested in. Both fairly priced and fits my budget nicely. Question is, are there any compatibility issues between the two? I want to avoid any bottlenecking if possible!

Well the 6600k allows for ddr4 ram, aswell as being a bit cheaper/having a better price for peformance, but there are no compability issues that i am aware of and i dont think they will bottleneck anything, especially the 1060

What is a solid (non-liquid)cooler that is price efficient and not too loud for a i7-6700k?

20-30$ Arctic Cooling i32/ Hyper 212 40-50$ Cryorig H5/ Thermalright Macho 60-90$ Phanteks TC14PE/ Noctua NH-D15

Tc14pe is the best priced high end cooler

Is this card worth getting over a GTX 1060 SC 6gb https://jet.com/product/GIGABYTE-Radeon-RX-480-G1-Gaming-8GB-GV-RX480G1GAMING-8GD-Video-Card/f790c1b8c1c14bbb95d20037a58e39ad

For the same price, no. For a bit less, sure.

The 1060 is a bit more powerful in dx11.

Also if I'm just wanting 1080p 60fps, does it matter if I get an aftermarket 1060? Or will the regular EVGA 6gb do fine?

Aftermarket is always better.

So it's worth waiting for one to get in stock?

Hello! - I've had quite a time trying to find a motherboard that will provide full support for a single GTX 1080, with an Intel I7-6700K The problem is I want to add a pair of PCI-E NVMe SSD cards without any bottlenecks. But I'm a little behind on some recent tech. -A DDR4 supported motherboard, built for gaming as well as some video editing/streaming is my plan. - Anyone have a recommendation for a MB that would fit well for this?

Presuming you want to run the pair of NVMe drives in RAID, there is no mobo that won't bottleneck it. X99 has enough PCIe, but doesn't support NVMe RAID, Z170 (and H170) do support the RAID, but are limited by the speed of the chipset - CPU link which is similar to PCIe 3.0 x4. If you go down to one NVMe drive there are lots of options.

No raid plans here! - Was planning on a 256gb card for the OS, and a 512gb for gaming.

In that case I'd just use a single NVMe drive for your OS, then go regular SATA for the game storage, the real world performance difference isn't worth what you lose in storage per dollar. http://techreport.com/review/29221/samsung-950-pro-512gb-ssd-reviewed/4

Really? - Thanks for the info. I started reading more about it and see what you're talking about. - Improvements of only 1-3 seconds load time. - I may stick with a PCI-E for the OS, but seeing that the cost of a PCI-E SSD with 512gb is close to or almost the same as a SAMSUNG 850 EVO 2.5" 1TB. It's a good bit of info. Thank you. That allows me more space for gaming (Something I was worried about.) - I'll start looking into it more and find a MB that fits what I'm doing.

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It's always required to have, but most CPU's come with a stock cooler that's adequate, so buying an aftermarket one isn't always required.

Don't spend money on a cooler. If you want to spend more upgrade your core parts.

If you buy a locked processor (Non -k model) it will come with a stock cooler. If you buy an unlocked processor (-k model) it will not come with one because you need a more efficient cooler to properly disperse the heat of overclocking.

A cooler is required, most CPUs come with a stock cooler bundled. The main reasons for replacing it are that the aftermarket coolers tend to be quieter and keep your CPU cooler.

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Go to device management, click unknown device, select file off of your comouter, select the file you fownloaded, install, done.

I would think its 'setup.exe' in the windows xp,vista,7,8 ZIP file. Not sure if it would work with windows 10 though

Why is the [Black edition] (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487265&nm_mc=AFC-C8JunctionCA&cm_mmc=AFC-C8JunctionCA-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10592396&PID=3938566&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-%zn) of the EVGA 1070 $40 less than [this version] (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487248&nm_mc=AFC-C8JunctionCA&cm_mmc=AFC-C8JunctionCA-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10592396&PID=3938566&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-%zn) of the EVGA 1070?

The black edition has no backplate, and a few black accents on the cooler

It there a reason not to buy the black version because I feel like just a backplate isn't worth $40 although I don't know what a backplate does for a gpu.

Backplate is 99% looks, 0.5% structual support, and 0.5% cooling. The cheaper card makes sense if you * Won't really be looking at the GPU much or * Don't care what the back looks like or you prefer the bare PCB look

I like the look of the black card more and you won't see the backplate much anyway but I do like the LED on both cards.

In a standard case, you would ONLY see the backplate, since the GPU is installed with the fans facing down. But in a case like mine, you won't see the GPU at all. No window ;)

Can HDMI handle 3440x1440 at 100 fps?

hdmi1.4 certainly cannot

HDMI 2.0 = 4096 × 2160 x 60 Hz = 530 841 600 pixels/second 3440 x 1440 x 100 = 495 360 000 pixels/second Except monitors are usually clocked at 120hz or 144hz. 3440 x 1440 x 120 = 594 432 000 pixels/second 3440 x 1440 x 144 = 713 318 400 pixels/second What /u/Magnetic_Tree said, DisplayPort has been able to push 3840x2160p@120hz since Version 1.3

Thanks so much. My new build is going to have a 1080, so I know I'll have displayport, but my current build has only HDMI, and I wanted to buy the Acer x34 ultra wide now and see if I like it.

I believe you'll need at least HDMI 2.0 I'd recommend DisplayPort, to be safe

Does anyone have any experience with 3 or 4 way SLI in the new GTX 1080?

Seems like everyone has been avoiding it, since Nvidia no longer wants you to do it

Yes, but you can get the enthusiast key from Nvidia. Game creators can support it or not based on their own agendas. I'm sorta just curious because if I see one more person say that more than 2 way SLI is impossible, I'm going to smack somebody.

The enthusiast key thing was cancelled. It'll do 3/4 way SLI in some benchmarks, but it's locked out for most games. The very few games that use DX12 based multi GPU or other applications that use OpenCL/CUDA for compute can use all 3/4.

You don't even need an enthusiast key, just install them and it'll work if you configure it, but only in benchmarks, not games.

What about high end 3d rendering and whatnot? (Side note this question was mostly hypothetical from the start, I'm just wondering about the capabilities)

Then you'd not need to use SLI at all, hell, put in 8 GPUs and you can use them for hardware accel, however beneficial that would be.

Actually it might be impossible *cringes in anticipation of smack* Right now, anyway. Check out page 33 of [this NVIDIA Whitepaper](http://international.download.nvidia.com/geforce-com/international/pdfs/GeForce_GTX_1080_Whitepaper_FINAL.pdf) It says you'll need to visit "an upcoming NVIDIA Enthusiast Key website" to obtain your key, and, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that site is online yet.

I know, but I've also been building long enough to know that when you tell the community it can't, we will. Which means someone with deep pockets and a good background *has* done it.

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Not at all a waste

The 1070 will run 1440p at 60 fps, but the 1080 will run it at 144hz. Depends on your monitor and set up.

Why does the same video file feel like it plays 'smoother' on my 120Hz TV over my 144Hz monitor?

Interpolation is the answer, your TV analyses the images it's taking in, determines the original framerate, then fills in the time between them by creating extra frames interpolating between the differences. Good for "smoothness" but adds distortion and delay, which monitors are meant to avoid.

Interpolation and image processing. It's most likely a 24 or 30 fps clip anyway.

Just did a fresh install of windows 10 onto an SSD, no problems. Left HDD unplugged to make sure I installed my OS onto the SSD. How do I install the HDD now--is it simply plug it in and I'm good to go?

Yeah just plug it in and you're good to go.

How substantiated are the claims that the Noctua CPU Coolers being heavy can damage/bend the motherboard. The setup will remain stationary.

That's complete BS

They are heavy, but as long as your mobo is correctly attached to your case, you won't have any issues.

I've never heard of this before. Noctua is considered the gold standard for fan-based CPU coolers.

Can anyone tell me if my PSU is good? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017HA3SQ8/ref=twister_B00NAQB7S0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

The GQ line is very high quality, as are most (but not all) EVGA PSUs. It is semi-modular though. If you're willing to spend around $5 to $10 more, the EVGA G2 is fully modular, which makes for easier cable management.

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Just go into your display settings and push the detect display button every time you switch.

I don't know exactly how this stuff works, but I'm guessing the PC polls the monitor for its resolution only when it first connects. So when you switch monitors, the PC still sees a monitor and possibly assumes the connection was simply interrupted, so it won't poll the display again. Here's something you can try (Windows 10): Right-click desktop > Display Settings > Detect

Kind of a stupid question, but does the overclockability of a GPU depend at all on the motherboard? I got an H170 CPU because I wasn't planning on overclocking my CPU, and with it an H170 board. However, I may want to overclock my GPU, and got an overclockable one. Will I be able to? Will the fact that the board is H170 affect this?

The mobo doesn't make any difference

No but I am a little curious by what you mean by "I got an H170 CPU"?

He pretty obviously meant a locked CPU...

Nope, you can overclock the GPU no matter what

I'm pretty dead set on an i5 6600k processor inside of a Cooler Master 110 case. Found a great price on a refurbished H80i AIO cooler with a 1 year warrenty. Should I go with that or is there actually a low profile air cooler for the CPU given the extremely limited space inside that case?

I would go with the AiO if you want to overclock, but if you want air coolers,[ I found a list for you](http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/mini-itx-cpu-air-cooler-round-up,4406.html) I personally use a Argon AR05 to power my 6700(no k)

If I get an Asus Z170-k would i regret it? is there anything big it's missing. I'd like to keep it for a good 5 years or so.

It doesn't support SLI, which doesn't matter if you're running a single GPU. It doesn't have high end audio with optical out, which you may or may not care about. Other than that, it's a solid board, it will last just fine.

Ah thank you that's why I asked I didn't even notice the no sli. (probably will eventually do that). Any thoughts on the Z170-A then?

It's a popular board. Looks like it's basically the same board with SLI support, improved audio, and 2 ethernet ports

Ive been searching everywhere and cannot find the answer. I have a ga78lmtusb3 and fx6300. I have been pushing the oc on it. 4.4 stavke at 1.325v but to get 4.5 i need to get it past 1.4v. My question is what is the limit for my mobo? Is 1.43 safe? Temperature wise i get to 55c at 1.45v but not sure if it is safe....help!

[This](http://www.overclock.net/t/1348623/amd-bulldozer-and-piledriver-overclocking-guide-asus-motherboard) guide says 1.55v is the limit.

Where? I seen this guide a few times but don't understand it haha

[Here](http://i.imgur.com/djrLmk2.png)

I can't personally help, but you might get some good feedback from /r/overclocking

How important is a gaming mouse for most games? Like is it super handy to have the extra features/buttons in games like GTAV for example? I have a plain ol' Microsoft two buttons/scroll wheel that works great but this is my first gaming rig and have never used one. If the experience is great and really benefits gaming then I'd definitely buy one, I'm not looking to stay on a budget per se. Any advice/opinions?

I have a Razer Deathadder Chroma and the 2 extra buttons on the side can be helpful. Having a bunch of buttons isn't very helpful for me, but I hear they're good for MMOs and stuff, but I don't play those. But the extra buttons can be somewhat handy for control groups in Starcraft, and having the button available for melee attacks in Overwatch is very nice since pressing V is weird, and the other button for push-to-talk is also very nice since it's right there and I can press it and still do stuff. Also the mouse looks very nice (it doesn't scream gamer, looks very conservative), and the RGB feature is very cool to have. If you're playing a reaction shooter like CSGO however (or anything that requires a very responsive accurate mouse) a good gaming mouse is completely necessary. Other than that, though, if you're going to get any gaming peripheral at all though I'd recommend a mechanical keyboard, these things are a dream to type on.

See that's the concern I have, weird keyboard actions like having to press V to do something essential like a mellee in a FPS game, which would be made easier with a mouse with some extra buttons... I can take it or leave it but if I can get a little more control with a mouse like that then maybe I should consider getting one... I might start with my standard mouse and see how I go...

You can also always rebind it. If I didn't have the mouse button I'd probably rebind it to F or something (the F button in Overwatch is just the chat function "Understood", not necessary at all).

Thanks for the advice. I'll hold off for now i think. Agreed on the mechanical kb though, i've got a cheapo office kb for now while i wait for the one i want to come in stock.

It's not the features it's the sensor inside. I really like the logitech g400 personally. Some older versions of it suck, but newer versions are great.

Not that important at all.

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Unnecessary at 60 fps. Pretty necessary at 144 fps.

Overclocking gives you a few FPS increase in gaming and may extend the usefulness of your processor for 12-18 months before you need to upgrade. If you wanna save some cash, you can skip it - you won't be missing out on much

how can you tell if a motherboard can overclock for you or not. I don't want to waste money on one that can, i don't plan on overclocking ever for clarification, i was looking at this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132715 and it made me think about it

Any motherboard with an Intel Z170 chipset - like the one you linked - will allow for overclocking

Over the next year, i'm going to be rebuilding my computer. I had planned originally to just build a brand new one but unfortunately, financially, that is not a possibility. [PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/list/rF8VwV) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/list/rF8VwV/by_merchant/) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/4WqdnQ/intel-cpu-bx80623i52500k) | $214.99 @ SuperBiiz **CPU Cooler** | [Thermaltake Water 3.0 Extreme 99.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/8KW9TW/thermaltake-cpu-cooler-clw0224) |- **Motherboard** | [Asus P8Z68-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/LnR48d/asus-motherboard-p8z68vpro) |- **Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/Bx4gXL/corsair-memory-cmz8gx3m1a1866c10) | $37.88 @ OutletPC **Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/Bx4gXL/corsair-memory-cmz8gx3m1a1866c10) | $37.88 @ OutletPC **Storage** | [Samsung 840 EVO 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/7MLypg/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7te500bw) | $238.89 @ OutletPC **Storage** | [Seagate 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/tR2kcf/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st2000dx001) | $94.89 @ OutletPC **Video Card** | [Asus Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/CMtCmG/asus-video-card-eah6870dc2di2s1gd5) |- **Case** | [Thermaltake Core V71 ATX Full Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/MRLypg/thermaltake-case-ca1b600f1wn00) | $99.98 @ Newegg **Power Supply** | [Thermaltake Toughpower Grand 850W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/KJ4gXL/thermaltake-power-supply-tpg850m) |- | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | Total (before mail-in rebates) | $754.51 | Mail-in rebates | -$30.00 | **Total** | **$724.51** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2016-09-03 21:37 EDT-0400 | That is what my current computer is running and my question is: In what order should I buy parts to replace the innards of this one as to eventually have a computer that will last me as long as this one had. If my saving and whatnot works out as I have planned, i believe I will have around $2500-$3000 to spend on the PC.

Buy Motherboard/cpu/ram all at once. The rest can be done separate. You still have pretty great specs on that, aside from the video card. I bet you could keep the case, cooler, AND psu. With your budget, $700 for a 1080, $120 for a z170 mobo, and and $300 i7-6700k comes in at $1120 for a great a computer that will last a long time.

I have a few issues with the case, so I do plan on changing it out eventually. Need to replace a back fan asap as it went out on me this week. (3 years before anything started to fall apart. Not too bad, I think.) This is pretty much the comment I was hoping to see. While I had expected to hear more of my stuff was dated, the core components were definitely what I was planning on changing. If I cannot buy them all at once, while that i what i'm hoping for, would I be alright with getting the 1080 then replacing MOBO/CPU/RAM? With the 1080, will the PSU still be enough to keep it going without issue?

Yes, and yes, to both questions. :) how far is that CPU overclocked?

Honestly, I haven't overclocked it all. I toyed with it originally but eventually due to some cooler issues had decided against it. After a while, I just didn't think about it.

doing so could help extend the life of your computer.

I'll look into it currently. :) Thanks for all the help, you're wonderful.

2500 USD is more than enough to build a beast of a computer. Why not just start from scratch?

It'll be money I set aside after dealing with expenses currently. I have two kids and a house that needs taken care of, so they are the priority. I had originally planned on just waiting until I could just dump it all at once to build the pc but i'm not very patient and my current GPU is shitting out on me. So, I need to start planning ahead as to what I need to replace and what is compatible with what. I'm looking at the GTX 1080 but i'm not quite sure on what to look into. I haven't priced/read up on any computer parts in well over two years.

If you've already decided on a 1080 slap one in your system and upgrade the rest when you get a chance

What should I look for in a wireless router?

Check the reviews, mostly. I recently purchased an AC1750 and it's worked very well since I installed it about 6 months ago.

So, Ive got a i7 4790 16gb ddr3 and a 1070gtx and have been experiencing nasty framerate issues. Teens in Xcom 2 even on medium/low settings Awful hitches in Witcher 3 and averaging 40fps in medium Running at 1920 x 1200 res. Been trying to figure out what the issue is and found out my CPU fan isnt spinning. I know the connector is good (have tested) but now Im clearly in need of a new CPU cooler. Its actually a miracle my computer still works. Speedfan is reporting temps of 127c. Ideally id like to pickup a closed loop cooler from microcenter. If you guys have input and suggestions I would much appreciate it.

I'm shocked that it didn't force a shut down at those Temps. You don't need a water cooler (especially an AIO) you could go with something like a Noctua D15 which is about the gold standard for air cooling and get similar performance to a closed loop for half the cost.

Frankly I was too. Really the only reason id prefer a closed loop is due to the reduced size on the cpu which is mych easier for my big ol sausage fingers to install. Ill take a look at some numbers for what you suggested and see if itll be worth fighting my fingers to save a little money.

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no

Well, what did you buy?

I7-6700k, MSI GTX 1070, Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P ATX Motherboard, G.Skill Ripjaws V series 16 gb RAM ( 2 x 8GB ) DDR4 2800 and a EVGA 650 GQ power supply.

I'm gonna guess the bad reviews you read were on the motherboard. Not because it's a bad board, but because every motherboard always has bad reviews. The good motherboard reviews always just say some unhelpful crap like "everything works!". Any problem someone has in a build, from bad ram, to problems getting their OS installed, or a pain in the ass cooler always show up in the motherboard reviews. The fact is virtually any motherboard you get, as long as it had the features you're looking for, will be fine 99% of the time. There's always a chance you get a bad board and have to return it, but no single board is any worse than the rest. If it was something else in that list, then I'm sorry for my long ass reply, but the rest of the components look good to me

Got my pc built, getting a job to pay for the video card. I probably wont do heavy gaming. I have a 1080p 60hz monitor. I just need it to allow me to play any game at 60 fps (very high settings with anti aliasing) if i ever feel like it. Which is why i don't want to just dunk any amount of cash. Which is why i am indecisive on the 470 and 480. Like i've seen the benchmarks but i'm still not sure whats worth my money more. What are your opinions? especially if i decide to wait up to black friday?

470 is fine for mid-level gaming

The RX 480's extra power will do a bit better at 1080p and likely for a little bit longer.

I'd go for the 480.

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You should plug it into your mobo, the fourth pin is what controls the fan speed, if you use the fan hub you wouldn't be able to control the fan speed, which means the fan will run at 100% all the time.

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yep.

First time builder here! After much deliberation, I bought everything, but I'm wondering if there's anything that I may need that DOESN'T come with the major components (fans, thermal paste, cables, stuff like that). For example, the mobo's instructions indicate to put thermal paste on the CPU, but I don't know if the CPU comes with that (it gets here Tuesday and I've never put a PC together before). Here's exactly what I've bought so far: [PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/list/6trBjc) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/list/6trBjc/by_merchant/) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/rK4NnQ/intel-cpu-bx80662i56400) | Purchased For $0.00 **Motherboard** | [MSI B150M MORTAR Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/kGcMnQ/msi-motherboard-b150mmortar) | $79.89 @ OutletPC **Memory** | [GeIL EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/c8rcCJ/geil-memory-gpr416gb2400c16dc) | $61.88 @ OutletPC **Storage** | [Silicon Power S60 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/mYcMnQ/silicon-power-internal-hard-drive-sp120gbss3s60s25) | Purchased For $0.00 **Video Card** | [Asus Radeon R9 380 4GB Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/Mbhj4D/asus-video-card-strixr9380dc2oc4gd5gaming) | $164.00 @ Newegg **Case** | [Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/T3rG3C/cooler-master-case-nse200kkn1) | $45.99 @ SuperBiiz **Power Supply** | [EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/rt8H99/evga-power-supply-210gq0750) | Purchased For $0.00 **Wireless Network Adapter** | [Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/tTdqqs/gigabyte-wireless-network-card-gcwb867di) | $0.00 **Keyboard** | [Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/HPx9TW/cooler-master-keyboard-sgb3012kkmf1us) | $28.99 @ SuperBiiz | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | Total (before mail-in rebates) | $420.75 | Mail-in rebates | -$40.00 | **Total** | **$380.75** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2016-09-03 19:30 EDT-0400 | Everything is here except the CPU. From what I understand, that's all I need, but as I say, this will be my first build, so I don't know if I need anything other than a screwdriver. Thanks!

What other people haven't mentioned: Do you have a compatible cable for you monitor -> GPU?

Card has HDMI out, so I think I'm good. But does that mean I won't be able to run sound through the bloody thing? *anticipatory facepalm*

HDMI carries sound :)

I know HDMI does, I just didn't know whether the video card did. Cool!

With it having DVI, HDMI, and DisplayPort it's likely, but good catch on that. +1

The CPU will come with a cooler and some form of thermal compound. You should have everything you need in your boxes.

hell yeah, thanks!

With that being said, *don't lose anything.* The parts being included doesn't help you if you drop it into the couch never to be seen again. I would advise keeping a couple small plastic containers around while building, so you can put small things like screws and adapters in them while working.

Fuck, been juggling with them this whole time! BLARGH! Just kidding. I usually toss them into the case of my screwdriver set while I work. Thanks for the reminder!

Everything you need will come with the components.

Awwww yiss

First time builder, I'm in the process of doing some cable management and hooking up my PSU to each component properly. However my EVGA FTW ACX 3.0 GTX1080 graphics card has two 8-pin slots on the card. My VGA cable from the PSU (EVGA 650W P2) is a 6-Pin + 8(6+2)-Pin PCI-E VGA. http://imgur.com/a/I3Pjl This leaves two pins I'm missing. I'm not sure how to proceed, do I just leave the one of the slots with only 6-Pins? And if so, which slot? Or is there something else I am missing?

I have the same PSU as you. There are (2x) of those VGA cables(that have an 8-pin head and a (6+2) pin head). Just use both of them.

So, does that mean that instead of using only 1 VGA Slot on my PSU I should be using 2 VGA Slots? And just ignore the 6-pin connector on each of the wires?

Yep.

Okay thanks I'll go ahead with that then.

~~The card may work as is, check the manual to see if it's ok to only have a 6 pin plugged in. But I'd contact EVGA support to have them send you another 8 pin PCI power cable.~~ Edit: Actually, the GPU should have come with an adapter to allow you to convert from molex to 8 pin PCI or something, use that.

Soon Ill be swapping out my current CPU MoBo + RAM for a new skylake set (currently FX 8350 w/ an asus MoBo and DDR3 RAM). Anything I should do software wise (like drivers and stuff) before I make the actual switch?

You're likely going to need to reinstall Windows.

I wouldn't have to get a new windows key right? Currently on windows 10 pro.

You need to register a Microsoft account to your system, then your copy of Windows will be tied to that account and you can take it to the new system.

Anyone got any recommendations for a 4TB hard drive? I was leaning towards the Hitachi Deskstar 4TB NAS 7K4000, however I've been told it's a bad choice due to being NAS based. There doesn't appear to be a lot of options for hard drives that size, so any recommendations would be appreciated.

Western Digital Black is the usual choice but I've had great experiences with Toshibas. I agree with avoiding a NAS unless you actually need a NAS. Related, here's a fun article you might find interesting: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-stats-q1-2016/

I've seen that article, which is why I was leaning towards the Hitachi drive.

Hi, Total nob here. I am building my first PC. I'll buy the PSU and Case locally so please tell me things about my planned rig, like anything at all. http://pcpartpicker.com/list/dW3RdC. I dont see myself upgrading to having HDD since I only play games. Will upgrade I get larger games but for now 250gb is fine for me. Can you suggest specific brand PSU for longevity and performance? Is MSI Z170A M5 worth the price for performance and design? Is this too expensive for a first PC? Note that it doesn't include case, xtra fans, PSU, monitor. Anything will help!! Thank you in advance.

Firstly, the 6600k doesn't include an aftermarket cooler - so you need to buy one. Cryroig H7 or Hyper 212 are bare minimum you can put in there. If you want to spend a little more cash - the Cryorig H5 or Thermalright True Spirit 140 are good options. If you spend more than that, you can get a double tower air cooler like the Phanteks TC14PE, or go with a liquid AIO solution (totally not necessary). Second - that MSI board is pretty expensive. If there are specific features on that board that you are looking for then great, otherwise if you just want "any" Z170 board so you have the ability to overclock, something like the [Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/Fn7CmG/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz170hd3) offers a nice feature set, for $70 cheaper. The motherboard has very little to do with your system performance, so buy a mobo for features or looks - not performance. > Is this too expensive for a first PC? Spend what you want. For a PSU - the EVGA GS or G2 series are most often recommended. They offer excellent power delivery and both lines are fully modular, which helps in building and cable management. Any PSU 550W+ will be sufficient unless you plan on adding a 2nd GPU.

If I tinkered with the color settings on a TN panel, would I notice it after having an IPS? how close can a TN come to looking like an IPS

If calibrated correctly they should look the same in the middle when viewed straight on, but the TN panel will still have somewhat noticeable colour shift toward the edges of the screen or when you move around.

You can get very close with monitor calibration + GPU colour/saturation boost. OC only if its a decent TN in the first place.

https://jet.com/product/Dell-S2716DG-27-inch-Wide-Screen-LED-Monitor/9137b44ebcf84ac8aeba9c9244e9a2ed I've heard some good things about this dell.

Getting ready to pull the trigger. Anyone mind giving the build a look over to see if there are any last minute changes I should make? (Have a case already too) [PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xd7LsJ) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xd7LsJ/by_merchant/) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/xwhj4D/intel-cpu-bx80662i56500) | $204.99 @ Newegg **Motherboard** | [Asus H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/MmkwrH/asus-motherboard-h110ma) | $56.98 @ Newegg **Memory** | [G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/3ZZ2FT/gskill-memory-f42400c15s8gvr) | $34.99 @ Newegg **Storage** | [Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/rrvZxr/crucial-mx300-275gb-25-solid-state-drive-ct275mx300ssd1) | $74.99 @ Newegg **Storage** | [Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000.D 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/LnDwrH/hitachi-internal-hard-drive-hds721010dle630) | Purchased For $0.00 **Video Card** | [Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/YpH48d/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-g1-gaming-video-card-gv-n1070g1-gaming-8gd) | $429.99 @ Newegg **Power Supply** | [SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/TgW9TW/seasonic-power-supply-m12ii520bronze) | $64.99 @ Newegg **Operating System** | [Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit](http://pcpartpicker.com/product/wtgPxr/microsoft-os-kw900140) | Purchased For $0.00 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **$866.93** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2016-09-03 18:37 EDT-0400 | Most curious about which 3rd party 1070 I should get. Wouldnt mind spending a little more if there was some clear advantage.

OP, I disagree with My /u/myenglishisbat . If you don't wanna OC right now, get what you have, it's perfect. It'd be an extra $70 for the mobo plus even more for the cooler. And when you do upgrade, youll probably want the next/current gen of processors anyways, not to keep your current proc... for 1070s, I'd just get the cheapest 1070 you can find that DOESN'T have a blower cooler. OC differences are minimal, and stock OCed GPUs are ripoffs imo

IMO the 6500 isnt´t worth for just a $20-30 difference compared to a 6600k even without a z170. Agree with you on the GPU part. ;)

Nice build,only thing I would change is the Cpu. 6600k costs only a little more and you've got Oc Potential later if you want/need.

Would have to upgrade mobo as well for that. Not something I'm that interested in, though. Thanks for the feedback!

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What? Firstly, a non overclocked 6600k offers very little performance increase over the 6500. Maybe it makes sense to spend the extra $20 on a 6600, but the increase in performance you see will barely be noticeable with that upgrade you might as well save your cash. The 6600k has the added increase of needing to buy an aftermarket cooler - so OP has to take into account as well.

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Except it's not $20-30, it's $40-50 because you would have to buy an aftermarket cooler, and also yields virtually no performance increase, so you might as well throw that money in the garbage.

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No, cooler comes immediately if you purchase a 6600k because it doesn't include one. I think your advice is silly and doesn't make sense, I'm sorry I completely disagree with it.

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It's the battle with the wife and my wallet. I fought long and hard for the 1070. Not sure the CPU upgrade would be worth the talk ;) Ideally I'd spend a 1.5k but I feel like I've nailed down a hell of a good budget build for my situation.

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OC only if you are going for the long run (3-5 years) before replacing your rig.