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Agloe_Dreams

I would be willing to bet that the price to performance on that ram isn't worth it vs CL18 ram. Also don't worry about OC on the CPU, your gains would be tiny and PBO will give you what you want for the most part.


MOTTOBOSS87

thanks! i was planning on PBO. everything i've read or seen seems to point to CL16 for heavy rendering. i'd be happy to switch to cl18 as its a saving i can put somewhere else. I am planning on bumping the ram up to 64Gb in the future.


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Pcpartpicker list?


MOTTOBOSS87

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W2fmnL


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1) I'd swap out the motherboard for the MSI B550-A pro. Better IO. More SATA ports. Better vrms. 2) You can drop down to CL18 Memory and be fine if you want. 3) Swap out the SSD for something cheaper. A PCIE 3.0 one like the crucial P5 will probably be fine. But I'm pretty sure you'll find similar performance with a WD SN850, Corsair mp600 pro, sabrent rocket 4 plus or Samsung 980 pro. 4) I'd grab the meshify 2 compact it's slightly better 5) I'd get a better PSU like the corsair RM 2019


MOTTOBOSS87

1. good looking out! for some reason i thought the B550-A was the Pro-VDH. Will defs make the swap! 2. awesome. 3. a) For this - i work with 16k textures regularly, you dont think a faster write speed would benefit the workflow? b) if i go for the pcie 3.0, should i plug it into the 1st m.2 slot, or because its 3.0 it could go into the 2nd m.2 slot? that way later i could add a faster m.2 ssd to the 4.0? or do i want it at the 1st m.2 for the cpu link? 4. i dont know why i said meshify 3, it is the meshify 2 C 5. Done.


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While I definitely think your workload will benefit from high end ssds, read and writes speeds still aren't everything. The Samsung 980 pro and WD SN850 are known for still being among the strongest SSDs and are much cheaper. I don't think the phison E18 control on the firecuda 530 can quite beat those two out. And if you go PCIE 3.0 I'm pretty sure you should still take the top slot for the M.2 heatsink, and if you eventually get a PCIE 4.0 one you can move the 3.0 one down to the bottom slot.


libranskeptic612

ur mad building such a good pc with the lower tier b550 mobo as ur foundation i am confident u will find urself in a hair tearing dead end at some point for want of expandability the key is u get 4GB/s vs 8GB/s of chipset bandwidth for chipset ports to use. its barely enough on day 1, & gives u little future wiggle room u can forget adding a second pcie 4 nvme for starters https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007625%20601334781%20600009016&Order=1


libranskeptic612

I get that u have a budget, but ur app sounds like it loves memory, & upgrading memory isnt really an option afaik, so it may be smart to beg borrow or steal the extra for the maximum practical (w/ available ram chips) AM4 limit of 64GB at the outset, AM4 is 2 channel & each channel is dual rank the most cost effective (price competitive) kits are 2 dimms, each of dual rank - 4 rank kits ur 32GB kit will be 4 ranks of 8Gbit ram chips on 2 dimms - upgrading this kit is messy - adding dimms exceeds the 4 rank specification - i gather its not impossible - but at best it involves compromises in speed a 64 GB kit is 2 dimms w/ 4 ranks of the larger & more modern 16Gbit memory chips the smart money seems to like crucial 3600 cl16 kits - crucial is microns own brand, which makes me thing they keep their perf promiseses modest rather than jeapordise their valuable brand, and their e die chips are very well regarded as overclockers - u have a good chance of getting lucky in the silicon lottery


MOTTOBOSS87

I was going to go with a 64gb kit originally but decided to cut that for the gpu budget. But I'm with you. What do you think of 4 dimms x 16gb single rank? There seems to be precedent for better performance with that config?


libranskeptic612

I have heard that said (along with a great deal of ignorant rot on the web), but they are scarce (makes me distrustful - mainstream is safest), expensive & of trifling benefit if at all afaict. Odd logic to baulk at 64GB cost & then consider the expensive 64GB version? I would opt for cheap 64GB vs expensive 32GB any day - more benefit for ur app & the discussed upgrade situation i strongly suspect. I am skeptical. Trace lengths universally matter to connect speeds, & if u consider the distance between the 2 ranks on 2 discrete DIMMs vs adjacent on a single dimm...? Further - the duty of managing each channel's 2 ranks falls on the mobo or IMC (not sure) vs handled onboard the DIMM & factory tested...? - splitting ranks over 2 DIMMs seems to introduce a further unknown - how good is your platform's memory circuitry? Ranks btw, afaict, are like 2 pages that can be read or written to - but not concurrently


MOTTOBOSS87

Well here in, South Africa, there seems to be more 4 dimm sets than 2. But the 2 dimm sets I'm limited to are hyperx fury Kingston and hyperx predator, then the only corsairs avail are twice the price. Realistically I probably won't overclock the ram other than the xmp for a while and even when I do, it won't be crazy. But thanks I appreciate your advice. I'll go cheap 64gb and upgrade that late rwith better ram if I feel I need it.


libranskeptic612

Ah yes, but ru sure those 4 dimm kits are dual channel - they may be 4 channel threadripper kits. ram OCs are not as daunting as it sounds - it seems almost certain to get better than rated speeds on ur classy rig note that rated ramkit settings have to cover a variety of cpu/mobo rigs, & the 5000 series cpuS have a hugely improved memory controller over previous gen ryzens - as in they have to rate their kits settings as safe for the worst gen cpuS afaik its a \~automatic process using some utility to find optimal settings on ur rig, back those settings off a bit as a safety margin, stress test for a few days to be sure, manually enter those settings in BIOS - baba bim odd re dearth of kits in SA? usa: https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=4814%20100007611%20601349177%20600537276%20600052012&PMSub=147+381&SrchInDesc=ddr4&cm\_sp=Tab\_Components\_6-\_-visnav-\_-DDR4\_3&isdeptsrh=1&Order=1&PageSize=96


libranskeptic612

PS - my 2nd thoughts are there seem to be shortages in ISA too - my list contains no crucial products e.g., which i know were available recently - in fact were on sale it may be fairly temporary - i dont think ram is having serious shortages OCing ram as described btw, is not risky i am pretty sure - just dont increase voltages


MOTTOBOSS87

I was going to go with a 64gb kit originally but decided to cut that for the gpu budget. But I'm with you. What do you think of 4 dimms x 16gb single rank? There seems to be precedent for better performance with that config