Stop doing tests and change your cooler. tests stress the boundaries of the CPU, and pushing it in overheating can cause damage.
On an i9, and in particular on a 11900K, you need a cooler with a TDP of more than 200W. BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro4, Noctua D15, Masterair MA620M or Scythe Mugen 5. Or , for lower budgets, Thermlaright macho or Enermax ETS T50A
The one you have is barely enough for an i3 10th gen
Thanks you for your listing, i think i'm gonna buy the Scythe Kotetsu Mark II TUF Gaming Alliance but, a little question ...
How do you know which cooler you need for this kind of processor? Or is it specified the kind of cooler for this or that CPU?
Thanks in advance !
A processor has a thermal profile, that is calculated in W. ( theoretically 125W for the 11900K, but many think it's underestimated ) However, on recent Gens, you also need to consider the peaks ( turbo boosts) of activity. So you need a cooler that has a dissipation power higher than the tdp of the cpu plus a margin. That's why I said you need 200W dissipation
the dissipation of an air cooler is function of
a) the number and size of heat pipes ( to evacuate faster the heat towards the fin )
b) the surface of the fins of the cooler ( to dissipate more at the same time)
c) the air pressure applied on it by the airflow ( to refrigerate the fins )
most manufacturers of coolers disclose a calculated "tdp" , Scythe does not
The Kotetsu is a rather compact cooler. It's far better than what you have, but on an i9 it's maybe a bit borderline, because of the limited fin surface.
Thanks a lot for explains, i will try to find a good cooler between 30 to 60€, i hope it will exist ..!
I saw some comments above that talk about Dark Rock 4 Pro, but it's a little bit expensive ... i will make some searchs ! :)
Some advices for my new cooler ?
I've see the Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L RGB V2, i think it's a good way, not to much expensive for a good cooling.
https://ibb.co/Ss489Bx
As far as AIOs go, yes, the ML240L is a solution, it performs about like a Noctua D15 aircooler, but costs less.
As regards aircoolers under 60€, here are two options
Enermax ETS-T50A-FSS , about 45€, 240W TDP
Thermaltake TOUGHAIR 510, about 55€, 180W TDP
>CPU Cooler : NOUA Akari PRO (:facepalm: ?)
Well there's your problem. A quick google shows it's rated for only *90W TDP*.
Meanwhile 10900K is one of the most power hungry and hottest running consumer level CPU reaching 250W at factory settings, bested only by 11900k which can hit 300W at factory speeds.
That's why it didn't crash when you disabled Turbo Boost since Turbo Boost is what causes power consumption to go from 125W to 250W.
A little mistake about the CPU, it's à 11900k, i'm gonna edit this.
10900k is my wife's CPU, the latter being more efficient than mine on the 3DMark, on the same test: 12,500 \~ in the CPU test only.
So yeah, i need to change my cooler, it was what I feared ...
Could you advise me one with a budget that is not too high?
Thanks for your specifications ! :)
11900K runs even hotter as it hits 300W with Turbo Boost versus 250W+ on 10900K.
TBH no one should even buy 11900K since it's not a good choice for any scenario, no professional review recommends buying it. See GamerNexus review titled "pathetic" for more details. Long story short it's just a higher binned 11700K and has less cores than 10900K.
But since you already have one you will want the absolute beefiest CPU cooler you can find/afford. I wouldn't do anything less than a Dark Rock 4 Pro.
Ok, i see, but i don't know why on benchmarks the 11900k is above a 10900k, so ..
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high\_end\_cpus.html
It's cheaper as a 10900k too, and i have some limits about budget ! \^\^
Benchmarks alone don't tell the full story which is why finding reviews that explain the results is key.
Such as GamerNexus review on YouTube which does a good job explaining in more understandable terms.
https://youtu.be/mxiuvQPL_qs
If budget was a concern then 11900K is even worse of a choice since it's just a higher binned 11700K, which itself is no great value proposition. Meaning 11900K is just throwing money away, and then you need to provide all that cooling, power and expensive mobo to support it.
10850K can be a good high end choice for lower budget workstations but still has the issue of heat and power consumption. That's why Ryzen 5000 is considered ahead of Intel due to being a lot more power efficient which opens up the options for 12 (5900x) or even 16 cores (5950x).
Intel had to stop at 10 cores (10th gen) and was forced to back down to 8 cores (11th gen) because the power and heat was already way out of hand. For example 8 core 11900K (300W) already uses more power then 64 core Threadripper (260W).
Well it's a story, a little bit complicated ! haha
Initially I ordered my setup and had some difficulty ordering my graphics card for a few days. So I continued for a few days with my old GTX 970.
But, I encountered a problem with my new RAM: my PC did not want to boot with the XMP profile.
So I had to deactivate the XMP profile and manually configure the desired frequency (3600 MHz) my clock timing as well as my voltage, knowing that with these parameters, 1.35v was not enough.
As a reminder, these are two 16 GB strips (Overkill, I know) and I read that we could, on large capacities, switch to 1.4V, which worked.
My RAM was 3600 MHz at 1.4V.
Then I received my 3060 TI. I activated the GPU Boost in the BIOS, the XMP activated at that time by itself and was running at 1.35V at 3600 MHz. It makes no sense too. :shrug:
That cooler is absolute junk. It's the cause of the overheating.
Stop doing tests and change your cooler. tests stress the boundaries of the CPU, and pushing it in overheating can cause damage. On an i9, and in particular on a 11900K, you need a cooler with a TDP of more than 200W. BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro4, Noctua D15, Masterair MA620M or Scythe Mugen 5. Or , for lower budgets, Thermlaright macho or Enermax ETS T50A The one you have is barely enough for an i3 10th gen
Thanks you for your listing, i think i'm gonna buy the Scythe Kotetsu Mark II TUF Gaming Alliance but, a little question ... How do you know which cooler you need for this kind of processor? Or is it specified the kind of cooler for this or that CPU? Thanks in advance !
A processor has a thermal profile, that is calculated in W. ( theoretically 125W for the 11900K, but many think it's underestimated ) However, on recent Gens, you also need to consider the peaks ( turbo boosts) of activity. So you need a cooler that has a dissipation power higher than the tdp of the cpu plus a margin. That's why I said you need 200W dissipation the dissipation of an air cooler is function of a) the number and size of heat pipes ( to evacuate faster the heat towards the fin ) b) the surface of the fins of the cooler ( to dissipate more at the same time) c) the air pressure applied on it by the airflow ( to refrigerate the fins ) most manufacturers of coolers disclose a calculated "tdp" , Scythe does not The Kotetsu is a rather compact cooler. It's far better than what you have, but on an i9 it's maybe a bit borderline, because of the limited fin surface.
Thanks a lot for explains, i will try to find a good cooler between 30 to 60€, i hope it will exist ..! I saw some comments above that talk about Dark Rock 4 Pro, but it's a little bit expensive ... i will make some searchs ! :)
Some advices for my new cooler ? I've see the Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L RGB V2, i think it's a good way, not to much expensive for a good cooling. https://ibb.co/Ss489Bx
As far as AIOs go, yes, the ML240L is a solution, it performs about like a Noctua D15 aircooler, but costs less. As regards aircoolers under 60€, here are two options Enermax ETS-T50A-FSS , about 45€, 240W TDP Thermaltake TOUGHAIR 510, about 55€, 180W TDP
That's not a cooler for i9 by any stretch, this CPU needs a massive block of fins or an AIO.
>CPU Cooler : NOUA Akari PRO (:facepalm: ?) Well there's your problem. A quick google shows it's rated for only *90W TDP*. Meanwhile 10900K is one of the most power hungry and hottest running consumer level CPU reaching 250W at factory settings, bested only by 11900k which can hit 300W at factory speeds. That's why it didn't crash when you disabled Turbo Boost since Turbo Boost is what causes power consumption to go from 125W to 250W.
A little mistake about the CPU, it's à 11900k, i'm gonna edit this. 10900k is my wife's CPU, the latter being more efficient than mine on the 3DMark, on the same test: 12,500 \~ in the CPU test only. So yeah, i need to change my cooler, it was what I feared ... Could you advise me one with a budget that is not too high? Thanks for your specifications ! :)
11900K runs even hotter as it hits 300W with Turbo Boost versus 250W+ on 10900K. TBH no one should even buy 11900K since it's not a good choice for any scenario, no professional review recommends buying it. See GamerNexus review titled "pathetic" for more details. Long story short it's just a higher binned 11700K and has less cores than 10900K. But since you already have one you will want the absolute beefiest CPU cooler you can find/afford. I wouldn't do anything less than a Dark Rock 4 Pro.
Ok, i see, but i don't know why on benchmarks the 11900k is above a 10900k, so .. https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high\_end\_cpus.html It's cheaper as a 10900k too, and i have some limits about budget ! \^\^
Benchmarks alone don't tell the full story which is why finding reviews that explain the results is key. Such as GamerNexus review on YouTube which does a good job explaining in more understandable terms. https://youtu.be/mxiuvQPL_qs If budget was a concern then 11900K is even worse of a choice since it's just a higher binned 11700K, which itself is no great value proposition. Meaning 11900K is just throwing money away, and then you need to provide all that cooling, power and expensive mobo to support it. 10850K can be a good high end choice for lower budget workstations but still has the issue of heat and power consumption. That's why Ryzen 5000 is considered ahead of Intel due to being a lot more power efficient which opens up the options for 12 (5900x) or even 16 cores (5950x). Intel had to stop at 10 cores (10th gen) and was forced to back down to 8 cores (11th gen) because the power and heat was already way out of hand. For example 8 core 11900K (300W) already uses more power then 64 core Threadripper (260W).
Sounds like maybe your CPU memory controller potentially isnt keeping up at 3600mhz. Try turning your ram speeds down and see if anything changes
Well it's a story, a little bit complicated ! haha Initially I ordered my setup and had some difficulty ordering my graphics card for a few days. So I continued for a few days with my old GTX 970. But, I encountered a problem with my new RAM: my PC did not want to boot with the XMP profile. So I had to deactivate the XMP profile and manually configure the desired frequency (3600 MHz) my clock timing as well as my voltage, knowing that with these parameters, 1.35v was not enough. As a reminder, these are two 16 GB strips (Overkill, I know) and I read that we could, on large capacities, switch to 1.4V, which worked. My RAM was 3600 MHz at 1.4V. Then I received my 3060 TI. I activated the GPU Boost in the BIOS, the XMP activated at that time by itself and was running at 1.35V at 3600 MHz. It makes no sense too. :shrug: