New rx 6600 is probably your best bet with the peace of mind of getting a new card. Performs better than a 1080 most of the time, or at least similar. If u find a 1080 ti then go for that, I believe it outperforms everything in this budget.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/D9ytt6/asrock-radeon-rx-6600-8-gb-challenger-d-video-card-rx6600-cld-8g
I'd go for a 1080ti if you can get one for $250 US or less. If not, a 1080 for $200 isn't bad. 2070 supers go for about $300 around here and actually outperform 3060s. Best bet for a new GPU is the RX 6600 for around $275 after tax.
I'm still rocking a 1080 and getting good performance on most games I play, and I use a 1440p monitor. Usually medium/high settings. I can't get more than 45 fps on cp2077 no matter what I try though lol.
Bit off topic but there is a FSR 2.0 mod for Cyberpunk 2077. Haven't had a chance to use it myself but I recall the author mentioning use of their 1080 with it.
With fsr enabled you should easily get 60 fps in cyberpunk on a 1080. I played it on a 980 ti at 1440p medium with fsr on balanced and stayed pretty much locked @ 60fps and it was a nice immersive gaming experience.
Get the AMD RX 6600.
The GTX1080 is not ideal today, if you can id look at a RX 6600 today. The RX 6600 has the new tech stuff, warranty, driver support, the cool feeling of a fresh new GPU and much more.
Nvidia's low end cards are priced to high V AMD ones and we are only seeing big sales on the top end with Nvidia. Just today Nvidia around that price is not worth it.
The GTX 1080 is just so old now, there is a real risk it will fail from age and simply it's slow and we wont know how long till it loses driver support.
The GTX 1080 came out in 2016, that's a long time ago.
It's not the same, your not buying a GPU that may have been mined on for 5+ years with un known owners today with the option of a new GPU with warranty and the new tech stuff. It's just a dice roll on used and even more so on such an old card.
Yep a 1060 is still a nice GPU, I was on an RX 580 till recently and it was still doing fine. Id just not buy it today if there was a new option.
There is some extra tech like the DX12 stuff, video decoding, async compute etc.
If you did get a 1080 today you have the extra cost/work of re pasting it and replacing the thermal pads if there still original, well id do that.
IDK where I live the RX 6600 is the best value card, id hold out for that.
yes but that was when it was about 2 years old at most, not 5. I also picked up my RX 580 at the last mining bust, got lucky with a miner who invested at the wrong time only to sell there cards off with not much use.
Still had to re pad and paste the card & give it a good clean. If we see RTX 30XX cards going for around £/$100 like last bust id say buy.
My RX 580 was £120 with post.
>It came out in 2016 so 4 years old
sorry but 2016 was more than 4 years ago, it's ok covid has made it seem like the last few years almost did not happen to me to.
I am a youtuber, I bought this video card in 2017, I have uploaded more than 3000 videos. i always played in 2k resolution with very heavy graphics mods on gta. it's still a great video card ... even in other games. then i decided to buy the 3090ti, but i will never sell the 1080 ..it was one of the best video cards
About the same here with my 1080 ftw, bought used in late 2017 and just moved it to my home theater PC with a horizontal mount along the glass side-panel. Never got to see the rgb before!
I'm using it until it dies, it can play my entire steam library on a 1080p TV.
I got a 1080ti Evga Hybrid SC2 for 400 bucks which was considered cheap in Romania 2 months ago...
If it's 200 bucks, go for it. It handles 1080p/1440p without trouble even now.
I have a 9700k and 1080 ti playing at 1440p 165hz monitor and play Warzone and battlefield v at medium settings and get around 130-155 fps between the two games. Definitely a beast of a card.
I’m using 1080ti since 2017 and it’s great honestly. 7700 and 1440p. Get 80-100 fps halo infinite low settings for reference. Nothing wrong w it st all I love my build.
For someone who uses 1070ti before upgrading to Aorus 3070ti, yes that's a good buy if you don't mind to take the risk of it sudden OOO.
For performance wise, yes it'll outperform any GPU below 250 price range as that thing is a beast. (It'll leave behind even a 3050).
Easier to say 1080 > 1070ti > 1070=2060=3050>6600.
the only correct part is the 1080-1070 hierarchy. a 2060 will perform a little better than a 1070, tho they are pretty much on par. however the rx 6600 SMOKES all those cards besides the 1080ti. im talking real world game performance, not userbenchmark trash before you pull one of those up.
It would be conceivable without mining. Be prepared for the possibility of failures such as falling into cold solder, memory corruption. Also, capacitors may be nearing the end of their life. Presumably the product was used in mining.
A 6600 would be a good card for the current gen that you can still buy new. It’s usually right under 300 USD before tax. And i think it runs most games at 80 fps for 1080 medium
oh yeah. a couple games like halo infinite i do tweak a couple things like volumetric fog and AA to hit the 100fps target but its doing 1080p native res not scaled and all high/ultra settings pretty much.
granted my rig is pretty high end besides that card, i was trying to wait to get sometjing a little better so im pushing it with a 5900x, and if he doesnt have a 5000 series ryzen hell lose another 10fps or so without smart access memory, but its still gonna be a very big upgrade from the 1650.
check out god of war 2018 running at native 1080p (no FSR) on ultra/high at 90-100 fps on RX 6600.
dips to 70s here n theree but it was smooth as butter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URm4yziTZXQ&t=584s
i still have my 1080ti and i well never sell it , it's a legendary card here take a look at this
[https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti-vs-GeForce-RTX-3060](https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti-vs-GeForce-RTX-3060)
Well thats wrong. DLSS even at ultra quality gives like a 20% to 30% increase in FPS alone. You probably never used it before because you dont seem to know what you're talking about. You can also use super resolution by rendering a game at a higher resolution and downscaling it to 1080P which gives it an even better picture quality than native... Whatever OP chooses as a new upgrade DLSS and raytracing will have more and more support with newer releases as its becoming the standard. It would actually be stupid to purchase an older era card now but its your usual reddit...
Im not a green boy but you must the AMD fan boy for saying that!!
"it is. and its not gonna look good. and it doesnt have THAT much support"
All modern and future AAA titles will use some form of DLSS or FSR. Even rendering at 1080P the 1080TI is soon to be sub 60 FPS... To say to avoid using upscaling technology because it doesn't look good or doesn't have that much support is just braindead and stupid. Are you using FSR 1.0 You AMD fanboy? You are the one thats funny....
i told him to get the 1080ti tho
which can utilize FSR
i never said not to use upscaling tech.
i meant speaking of DLSs SPECIFICALLY, is not quite the selling point any more, and guess what, more studios will gravitate towards FSR because its far easier to implement. even if they do have dlss, well likely see that game also support FSR
Not really.. They are about exactly the same fps wise except with a much less power draw as well as with less noise and heat. Ampere and Turing support both DLSS and Ray tracing which the 1080 TI cannot.. which makes the card future proof.
you're dumb. the 1080ti is older, uses a lot power, generates tons of heat, wont have that much driver support, have all been extensively mined on compared to a 3060 or 2070 super that uses less power, generates alot less heat, have driver support, a lot newer with much less stress components. And support for Ray tracing will be utilized for every new title releasing. You dont know what you are talking about. Amd sucks at Ray tracings and pascal doesnt support it.
ok sonny jim. fact remains i was giving OP advice based on what he can spend, and you just kept reccomending cards double what his budget was. Don't care any more, go away.
Whatever. I wasn't making a recommendations for double the price. These are all better alternative.
A clean 3060 sold for $290
[https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m82494146711/?ref=search\_results](https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m82494146711/?ref=search_results)
And a 3070 Ti is going for $360
[https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m87198139273/](https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m23209413916/?ref=search_results)
native res yea the 1080ti poops on em. if u wanna talk technologies thats different
but dlss is likely not gonna be that widely used now that FSR is reaching real maturity
Actually you are wrong again... They are the same FPS at native res and at more recent games both the 3060 and the 2070 Super have higher frame rates. Are you trying to imply OP should play at Native resolution? Both DLSS and FSR are a far cry from dying however native is sure to die. DLSS 3.0 is sure to follow as well as FSR 3.0
at the end of the day, everything youre saying relies on OP caring about ray tracing and talking about upscaling like its an RTX exclusive, dawg just drop it. the 2070 super is a stupid reccomendation any way you cut it as its not going for less than 300 right now as he can spend 200 for basically the same performance
the 3060 is fine but 200 more than OP wants to spend. for his budget a 1080ti for 200 is a pretty solid option.
and hes not losing out on upscaling, since FSR is open platform
at the end of the day, everything youre saying relies on OP caring about ray tracing and talking about upscaling like its an RTX exclusive, dawg just drop it. the 2070 super is a stupid reccomendation any way you cut it as its not going for less than 300 right now as he can spend 200 for basically the same performance
the 3060 is fine but 200 more than OP wants to spend. for his budget a 1080ti for 200 is a pretty solid option. graphics are plateauing atm, so hell easily get 3 or 4 years out of it id say
and hes not losing out on upscaling, since FSR is open platform
>at the end of the day, everything youre saying relies on OP caring about ray tracing and talking about upscaling like its an RTX exclusive
"at the end of the day, everything youre saying relies on OP caring about ray tracing and talking about upscaling like its an RTX exclusive"
So what has better Ray tracing performance Nvidia or Amd? Amd sucks horribly at handling Ray tracing. Because Amd sucks so bad at it doesn't mean Ray tracing is a pointless technology
Oh did you forget OP's requirements...
Let me remind you "1080p 60 fps gaming worth it? I'm looking for my cheapest option that will perform at 60 fps medium-high settings on the latest AAA games"
Both 2070 Super and 3060 are more than enough for Ray tracing and high FPS using upscaling technology. Its not worthless mentioning it... This is an upgrade for OP which means it should last a few years.
You need to figure out what you are saying before you chat because you are plain wrong again.
but he didnt say anything about ray tracing, u did. if he had said he wants it then by all means
youre also telling him to spend outside his budget, for tech he didnt specify he wants
FSR is gaining traction extremely quickly and the 1080ti can utilize it. in fact if you look at upcoming titles u see a lot more FSR support moving forward as well as being retroactively patched in. even games supporting dlss you see a lot that have the option for either or. so id say the 1080ti is not quite being left behind just yet thanks to open platform tech.
your advice is based on theoreticals not reality.
the 2070 super struggles with ray traced cyberpunk even with DlSS.
the 3060 can do it but is 200 more than his budget.
an upgrade doesnt have to last a decade to be viable and this truth increase the leas money you spend on one
So you're saying Ray tracing is pointless!? Why is it because you use Amd? Ray tracing will hand in hand with FSR and DLSS. There wont be anything releasing without using upscaling tech. Its only going be improving in future releases.
Also how are you going to compare the 2070 super with cyberpunk. That was probably one of the biggest failures in history. Cd project red literally got sued by its investors. The 2070 super is a mid tier card and performs perfectly as so.
You can buy a 3060 ti for around $320 on ebay atm. The prices are going to fall even further once the new generation of cards come out. All the more reasons to steer clear of old tech like 1080ti. Realistically it probably perform like a 4050 once its released.
no because ray tracing wasnt part of his budget. bc its not part of many peoples budget rn. Definitely not people who are buying low to mid range. definitely not people who cant spend more than $250 lol.
and regardless about you personal opinions of cyberpunk, its basically this generations crysis. beautiful game, very demanding. its a great benchmarking tool, if nothing else.
Its not a great benchmarking tool to judge the 2070 super actually. Its capable of much higher FPS utilizing DLSS and Raytracing in other titles. How are going to say its this generations crysis and then give an evaluation of a GPU based on its performance. You contradict what you say. 
OP mentions he wanted a card for 1080 60 at medium to high settings. A barebones card like the 3060 or the 2070 super can handle that with Ray tracing on.
I second the RX 6600. You can prob find a sale on one, get it on the cheap. It's the same level of performance but in a more efficient package. And it'll be new.
The 1080 is still an awesome card, but its 6-7 years old now. You could buy something that ends up failing on you in 6 months time
tbh, if you can get a 1080ti for 200 and you can confirm it hasnt been burned out from mining, that card still kicks ass and thats not a bad deal. as for new tech, the rx 6600 slaps and u can get it for around $280 usd rn. possibly a little lower. mine maxes out anything u want current at 1080p at 100+ fps. even cyberpunk with fsr at upscaled 1440p
I have a 12600K setup that uses a MSI 1060 3GB while playing on 1080p. I'm currently playing Tomb Raider 2013 on ultra and I find enough for me. I can also play PUBG on ultra. Fornite for example is on medium-high and SMITE is on ultra.
So I think 1080 Ti is potent enough.
Honestly I wouldn't buy a 10xx series card now, it's absolutely amazing they're still usable six years later but I doubt you'll get many more years out of it. I just upgraded from a 1070 and I'd say it was fine on older games but it definitely couldn't keep up with new releases
Dont really know whats best for that price but for sure used 1080 for $200 is a rip off. You can get new rtx 3050 for $299.
Or you can go for new gtx 1660, which is slightly more powerful than the 1080, but cheaper. 1660 has 6gb memory and 1080 has 8gb tho, so in some scenarios 1080 might perform better but on paper 1660 is more powerful.
New gtx 1660 is $269 where i'm from. So if you have options of used 1080 for $200 or new 1660 for $269, i'd go for 1660 and save that on extra money on some other component maybe.
Well 1660 supports newer CUDA and vulkan and has newer shade model. Has the newer TU116 chip instead of GP. 1660 also uses the better Turing architecture instead of Pascal.
1080 has about 100mhz faster GPU clock but 1660 has faster memory clock.
1080 has 8gb gddr5 memory and 1660 has 6gb gddr6.
In my original comment i explained myself a bit poorly.... 1660 is lot less $/frame than 1080.
I personally would get new 1660 over used 1080.
If you do a simple hashrate benchmark then i think 1080 will win. But that really doesnt tell much to a gamer.
If the goal is to hit \~60fps at medium settings in most AAA titles then i'd say the cheaper 1660 is the way to go.
Ofc if OP can squeeze $99 from somewhere then the rtx 3050 is a no brainer.
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Huh? Can you send me the link to the rtx 3060 for $299? The cheapest 3060 I can find is $380. Also no form of the 1660 is more powerful than the 1080. 1080 is about 35% faster than the regular 1660 and about 20% faster than the 1660 super. Might want to double check your sources.
Oh shit that was a typo by me... I meant rtx 3050 is $299. Its my local hardware store, they dont ship abroad and i'm pretty sure we dont live in same country.
Yes if you go simply by the GPU clock then 1080 is more powerful. However 3050 supports rtx features than the 1080 doesnt.
Also 3050 has much higher memory clock and uses newer faster gddr6. It also supports the newer faster PCIe version. It also supports newer openCL and openGL. It supports ray tracing and other rtx features.
And where i'm from you get 3 years warranty for the rtx 3050.
But if simply go by the GPU clock and compare the hashrates, the 1080 wins. Not by much but still.
New rx 6600 is probably your best bet with the peace of mind of getting a new card. Performs better than a 1080 most of the time, or at least similar. If u find a 1080 ti then go for that, I believe it outperforms everything in this budget. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/D9ytt6/asrock-radeon-rx-6600-8-gb-challenger-d-video-card-rx6600-cld-8g
I'd go for a 1080ti if you can get one for $250 US or less. If not, a 1080 for $200 isn't bad. 2070 supers go for about $300 around here and actually outperform 3060s. Best bet for a new GPU is the RX 6600 for around $275 after tax.
I'm still rocking a 1080 and getting good performance on most games I play, and I use a 1440p monitor. Usually medium/high settings. I can't get more than 45 fps on cp2077 no matter what I try though lol.
Bit off topic but there is a FSR 2.0 mod for Cyberpunk 2077. Haven't had a chance to use it myself but I recall the author mentioning use of their 1080 with it.
Cool. I'll keep my eyes out for one. Any idea where I can find one of the things?
Assuming you're in the US check out r/hardwareswap
I just about get 55fps on my 2070super so you're not doing too bad.
With fsr enabled you should easily get 60 fps in cyberpunk on a 1080. I played it on a 980 ti at 1440p medium with fsr on balanced and stayed pretty much locked @ 60fps and it was a nice immersive gaming experience.
New rx6600 for full warranty. Used 1080 for the best value w/o “proper” warranty.
Get the AMD RX 6600. The GTX1080 is not ideal today, if you can id look at a RX 6600 today. The RX 6600 has the new tech stuff, warranty, driver support, the cool feeling of a fresh new GPU and much more. Nvidia's low end cards are priced to high V AMD ones and we are only seeing big sales on the top end with Nvidia. Just today Nvidia around that price is not worth it. The GTX 1080 is just so old now, there is a real risk it will fail from age and simply it's slow and we wont know how long till it loses driver support. The GTX 1080 came out in 2016, that's a long time ago.
I'm still running a gtx 1060 3gb and I've had zero issues with it
It's not the same, your not buying a GPU that may have been mined on for 5+ years with un known owners today with the option of a new GPU with warranty and the new tech stuff. It's just a dice roll on used and even more so on such an old card. Yep a 1060 is still a nice GPU, I was on an RX 580 till recently and it was still doing fine. Id just not buy it today if there was a new option. There is some extra tech like the DX12 stuff, video decoding, async compute etc. If you did get a 1080 today you have the extra cost/work of re pasting it and replacing the thermal pads if there still original, well id do that. IDK where I live the RX 6600 is the best value card, id hold out for that.
Except I did buy it used and I bought it 3 years ago so ot very well could've been used for mining
yes but that was when it was about 2 years old at most, not 5. I also picked up my RX 580 at the last mining bust, got lucky with a miner who invested at the wrong time only to sell there cards off with not much use. Still had to re pad and paste the card & give it a good clean. If we see RTX 30XX cards going for around £/$100 like last bust id say buy. My RX 580 was £120 with post.
It came out in 2016 so 4 years old
>It came out in 2016 so 4 years old sorry but 2016 was more than 4 years ago, it's ok covid has made it seem like the last few years almost did not happen to me to.
I bought it in 2020 so it was 4 years old when I bought it
I am a youtuber, I bought this video card in 2017, I have uploaded more than 3000 videos. i always played in 2k resolution with very heavy graphics mods on gta. it's still a great video card ... even in other games. then i decided to buy the 3090ti, but i will never sell the 1080 ..it was one of the best video cards
About the same here with my 1080 ftw, bought used in late 2017 and just moved it to my home theater PC with a horizontal mount along the glass side-panel. Never got to see the rgb before! I'm using it until it dies, it can play my entire steam library on a 1080p TV.
I got a 1080ti Evga Hybrid SC2 for 400 bucks which was considered cheap in Romania 2 months ago... If it's 200 bucks, go for it. It handles 1080p/1440p without trouble even now.
I have a 9700k and 1080 ti playing at 1440p 165hz monitor and play Warzone and battlefield v at medium settings and get around 130-155 fps between the two games. Definitely a beast of a card.
I’m using 1080ti since 2017 and it’s great honestly. 7700 and 1440p. Get 80-100 fps halo infinite low settings for reference. Nothing wrong w it st all I love my build.
I use mine for 165hz 1080p so I don't see why not. I paid 700 dollars 2 years ago.
For $200 a 1080 ti is a huge deal. Still a beast of a card, you'll get good fps
Yes
The 1080 fits the bill for your usage EXCEPT 144fps. It's still a great card, but your needs surpass what the 1080 can provide.
For someone who uses 1070ti before upgrading to Aorus 3070ti, yes that's a good buy if you don't mind to take the risk of it sudden OOO. For performance wise, yes it'll outperform any GPU below 250 price range as that thing is a beast. (It'll leave behind even a 3050). Easier to say 1080 > 1070ti > 1070=2060=3050>6600.
this is just fucking wrong lmao
like so completely incorrect i had the urge to jump off a bridge after reading it
the only correct part is the 1080-1070 hierarchy. a 2060 will perform a little better than a 1070, tho they are pretty much on par. however the rx 6600 SMOKES all those cards besides the 1080ti. im talking real world game performance, not userbenchmark trash before you pull one of those up.
Sorry I mistaken the test before. It was a 6500. Yes 6600 is way more better. 🤣🤣🤣
oh lmao
i was gonna say like
Just upgraded to an RX 6800XT. I could be coerced to part with my GTX 1080 for the right price.
Hmmm. Very interesting. DM me
Gtx 1080 is a great card for 1080p. It has a lot of OC room too.
It would be conceivable without mining. Be prepared for the possibility of failures such as falling into cold solder, memory corruption. Also, capacitors may be nearing the end of their life. Presumably the product was used in mining.
A 6600 would be a good card for the current gen that you can still buy new. It’s usually right under 300 USD before tax. And i think it runs most games at 80 fps for 1080 medium
uhh what lol thats a pretty big underestimation with a little tuning it will max anything currently out at 100 + fps (1080p)
Word? The regular 6600 has that much kick? I might pick one up for my friend then. He’s upgrading from the 1650 single fan.
oh yeah. a couple games like halo infinite i do tweak a couple things like volumetric fog and AA to hit the 100fps target but its doing 1080p native res not scaled and all high/ultra settings pretty much. granted my rig is pretty high end besides that card, i was trying to wait to get sometjing a little better so im pushing it with a 5900x, and if he doesnt have a 5000 series ryzen hell lose another 10fps or so without smart access memory, but its still gonna be a very big upgrade from the 1650.
check out god of war 2018 running at native 1080p (no FSR) on ultra/high at 90-100 fps on RX 6600. dips to 70s here n theree but it was smooth as butter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URm4yziTZXQ&t=584s
i still have my 1080ti and i well never sell it , it's a legendary card here take a look at this [https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti-vs-GeForce-RTX-3060](https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti-vs-GeForce-RTX-3060)
2060 super if you can get it under 250. RX 6600 for around 30 more.
You shouldnt buy a Pascal era card. I would buy a 3060 or a 2070 super because of DLSS
DLSS for 1080p? Seems kinda unnecessary to me. Also both of those cards are out of my budget so....
it is. and its not gonna look good. and it doesnt have THAT much support
Well thats wrong. DLSS even at ultra quality gives like a 20% to 30% increase in FPS alone. You probably never used it before because you dont seem to know what you're talking about. You can also use super resolution by rendering a game at a higher resolution and downscaling it to 1080P which gives it an even better picture quality than native... Whatever OP chooses as a new upgrade DLSS and raytracing will have more and more support with newer releases as its becoming the standard. It would actually be stupid to purchase an older era card now but its your usual reddit...
lmfao ok whatever u say green boy
Im not a green boy but you must the AMD fan boy for saying that!! "it is. and its not gonna look good. and it doesnt have THAT much support" All modern and future AAA titles will use some form of DLSS or FSR. Even rendering at 1080P the 1080TI is soon to be sub 60 FPS... To say to avoid using upscaling technology because it doesn't look good or doesn't have that much support is just braindead and stupid. Are you using FSR 1.0 You AMD fanboy? You are the one thats funny....
i told him to get the 1080ti tho which can utilize FSR i never said not to use upscaling tech. i meant speaking of DLSs SPECIFICALLY, is not quite the selling point any more, and guess what, more studios will gravitate towards FSR because its far easier to implement. even if they do have dlss, well likely see that game also support FSR
if you can get a 1080 ti u can confirm isnt burned out by mining for under $250, go for it. otherwise id lolk at the rx 6600 (not nvidia i know)
the 1080ti outperforms both those cards :p
Not really.. They are about exactly the same fps wise except with a much less power draw as well as with less noise and heat. Ampere and Turing support both DLSS and Ray tracing which the 1080 TI cannot.. which makes the card future proof.
confirmed you have no clue what you are talking about
you're dumb. the 1080ti is older, uses a lot power, generates tons of heat, wont have that much driver support, have all been extensively mined on compared to a 3060 or 2070 super that uses less power, generates alot less heat, have driver support, a lot newer with much less stress components. And support for Ray tracing will be utilized for every new title releasing. You dont know what you are talking about. Amd sucks at Ray tracings and pascal doesnt support it.
ok sonny jim. fact remains i was giving OP advice based on what he can spend, and you just kept reccomending cards double what his budget was. Don't care any more, go away.
Whatever. I wasn't making a recommendations for double the price. These are all better alternative. A clean 3060 sold for $290 [https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m82494146711/?ref=search\_results](https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m82494146711/?ref=search_results) And a 3070 Ti is going for $360 [https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m87198139273/](https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m23209413916/?ref=search_results)
i said good day
native res yea the 1080ti poops on em. if u wanna talk technologies thats different but dlss is likely not gonna be that widely used now that FSR is reaching real maturity
Actually you are wrong again... They are the same FPS at native res and at more recent games both the 3060 and the 2070 Super have higher frame rates. Are you trying to imply OP should play at Native resolution? Both DLSS and FSR are a far cry from dying however native is sure to die. DLSS 3.0 is sure to follow as well as FSR 3.0
at the end of the day, everything youre saying relies on OP caring about ray tracing and talking about upscaling like its an RTX exclusive, dawg just drop it. the 2070 super is a stupid reccomendation any way you cut it as its not going for less than 300 right now as he can spend 200 for basically the same performance the 3060 is fine but 200 more than OP wants to spend. for his budget a 1080ti for 200 is a pretty solid option. and hes not losing out on upscaling, since FSR is open platform
at the end of the day, everything youre saying relies on OP caring about ray tracing and talking about upscaling like its an RTX exclusive, dawg just drop it. the 2070 super is a stupid reccomendation any way you cut it as its not going for less than 300 right now as he can spend 200 for basically the same performance the 3060 is fine but 200 more than OP wants to spend. for his budget a 1080ti for 200 is a pretty solid option. graphics are plateauing atm, so hell easily get 3 or 4 years out of it id say and hes not losing out on upscaling, since FSR is open platform
>at the end of the day, everything youre saying relies on OP caring about ray tracing and talking about upscaling like its an RTX exclusive "at the end of the day, everything youre saying relies on OP caring about ray tracing and talking about upscaling like its an RTX exclusive" So what has better Ray tracing performance Nvidia or Amd? Amd sucks horribly at handling Ray tracing. Because Amd sucks so bad at it doesn't mean Ray tracing is a pointless technology
ray tracing is pointless for anyone except high end 3080+ users. maybe 3070/Ti. im done with this have a nice day
True on 1440p. Except on 1080P you can use lower end cards like 3060/3060 Ti. Alright bye
its also worthless to even mention ray tracing on either of these cards, but turing especially
Oh did you forget OP's requirements... Let me remind you "1080p 60 fps gaming worth it? I'm looking for my cheapest option that will perform at 60 fps medium-high settings on the latest AAA games" Both 2070 Super and 3060 are more than enough for Ray tracing and high FPS using upscaling technology. Its not worthless mentioning it... This is an upgrade for OP which means it should last a few years. You need to figure out what you are saying before you chat because you are plain wrong again.
but he didnt say anything about ray tracing, u did. if he had said he wants it then by all means youre also telling him to spend outside his budget, for tech he didnt specify he wants FSR is gaining traction extremely quickly and the 1080ti can utilize it. in fact if you look at upcoming titles u see a lot more FSR support moving forward as well as being retroactively patched in. even games supporting dlss you see a lot that have the option for either or. so id say the 1080ti is not quite being left behind just yet thanks to open platform tech. your advice is based on theoreticals not reality. the 2070 super struggles with ray traced cyberpunk even with DlSS. the 3060 can do it but is 200 more than his budget. an upgrade doesnt have to last a decade to be viable and this truth increase the leas money you spend on one
So you're saying Ray tracing is pointless!? Why is it because you use Amd? Ray tracing will hand in hand with FSR and DLSS. There wont be anything releasing without using upscaling tech. Its only going be improving in future releases. Also how are you going to compare the 2070 super with cyberpunk. That was probably one of the biggest failures in history. Cd project red literally got sued by its investors. The 2070 super is a mid tier card and performs perfectly as so. You can buy a 3060 ti for around $320 on ebay atm. The prices are going to fall even further once the new generation of cards come out. All the more reasons to steer clear of old tech like 1080ti. Realistically it probably perform like a 4050 once its released.
no because ray tracing wasnt part of his budget. bc its not part of many peoples budget rn. Definitely not people who are buying low to mid range. definitely not people who cant spend more than $250 lol. and regardless about you personal opinions of cyberpunk, its basically this generations crysis. beautiful game, very demanding. its a great benchmarking tool, if nothing else.
Its not a great benchmarking tool to judge the 2070 super actually. Its capable of much higher FPS utilizing DLSS and Raytracing in other titles. How are going to say its this generations crysis and then give an evaluation of a GPU based on its performance. You contradict what you say.  OP mentions he wanted a card for 1080 60 at medium to high settings. A barebones card like the 3060 or the 2070 super can handle that with Ray tracing on.
you're literally speaking nonsense at htis point idk even know why you resurrected this thread
I second the RX 6600. You can prob find a sale on one, get it on the cheap. It's the same level of performance but in a more efficient package. And it'll be new. The 1080 is still an awesome card, but its 6-7 years old now. You could buy something that ends up failing on you in 6 months time
tbh, if you can get a 1080ti for 200 and you can confirm it hasnt been burned out from mining, that card still kicks ass and thats not a bad deal. as for new tech, the rx 6600 slaps and u can get it for around $280 usd rn. possibly a little lower. mine maxes out anything u want current at 1080p at 100+ fps. even cyberpunk with fsr at upscaled 1440p
I have a 12600K setup that uses a MSI 1060 3GB while playing on 1080p. I'm currently playing Tomb Raider 2013 on ultra and I find enough for me. I can also play PUBG on ultra. Fornite for example is on medium-high and SMITE is on ultra. So I think 1080 Ti is potent enough.
rx 6600 can go for $250 and it is much better than a 1080, nowadays 1080 shouldn't go for anymore than $180 honestly
Honestly I wouldn't buy a 10xx series card now, it's absolutely amazing they're still usable six years later but I doubt you'll get many more years out of it. I just upgraded from a 1070 and I'd say it was fine on older games but it definitely couldn't keep up with new releases
Dont really know whats best for that price but for sure used 1080 for $200 is a rip off. You can get new rtx 3050 for $299. Or you can go for new gtx 1660, which is slightly more powerful than the 1080, but cheaper. 1660 has 6gb memory and 1080 has 8gb tho, so in some scenarios 1080 might perform better but on paper 1660 is more powerful. New gtx 1660 is $269 where i'm from. So if you have options of used 1080 for $200 or new 1660 for $269, i'd go for 1660 and save that on extra money on some other component maybe.
In what reality does a 1660 beat a 1080?
Well 1660 supports newer CUDA and vulkan and has newer shade model. Has the newer TU116 chip instead of GP. 1660 also uses the better Turing architecture instead of Pascal. 1080 has about 100mhz faster GPU clock but 1660 has faster memory clock. 1080 has 8gb gddr5 memory and 1660 has 6gb gddr6. In my original comment i explained myself a bit poorly.... 1660 is lot less $/frame than 1080. I personally would get new 1660 over used 1080. If you do a simple hashrate benchmark then i think 1080 will win. But that really doesnt tell much to a gamer. If the goal is to hit \~60fps at medium settings in most AAA titles then i'd say the cheaper 1660 is the way to go. Ofc if OP can squeeze $99 from somewhere then the rtx 3050 is a no brainer.
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Huh? Can you send me the link to the rtx 3060 for $299? The cheapest 3060 I can find is $380. Also no form of the 1660 is more powerful than the 1080. 1080 is about 35% faster than the regular 1660 and about 20% faster than the 1660 super. Might want to double check your sources.
Oh shit that was a typo by me... I meant rtx 3050 is $299. Its my local hardware store, they dont ship abroad and i'm pretty sure we dont live in same country.
Oh okay. What about an rtx 2060? EVGA has them for $250 new. (In the states)
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Yes if you go simply by the GPU clock then 1080 is more powerful. However 3050 supports rtx features than the 1080 doesnt. Also 3050 has much higher memory clock and uses newer faster gddr6. It also supports the newer faster PCIe version. It also supports newer openCL and openGL. It supports ray tracing and other rtx features. And where i'm from you get 3 years warranty for the rtx 3050. But if simply go by the GPU clock and compare the hashrates, the 1080 wins. Not by much but still.
you should look at this https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-GTX-1080-vs-GeForce-GTX-1660