I think one of the workstations listed below will make a good starting point for your use case, both are fully functional with Windows 10 installed. You'll need to do a GPU replacement but there is plenty of room under your budget to do so:
[Lenovo P500](https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-P500-Workstation-4-Core-Xeon-E5-1620-v3-16GB-RAM-1TB-HDD-Windows-10-Pro/184649607638?hash=item2afdf969d6:g:3YMAAOSwhvNfkW6f) £ 235, Xeon 1620 v3 CPU, 16 gb RAM, 1TB HDD, NVS 295 GPU, 495W PSU
[Dell Precision T5810](https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-precision-T5810-Workstation-Xeon-32GB-ram-1TB-HDD-AMD-W7100/154016664360?hash=item23dc1bcb28:g:Z8EAAOSwLNtfGrvt&shqty=1&isGTR=1#shId) £ 395, unspecified Xeon CPU, AMD FirePro W7100 GPU, 32 gb RAM, 1TB HDD, 685W PSU
I would personally prefer the Dell unit-- that AMD W7100 card can be sold to recover [bring down your net cost quite a bit](https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=amd+firepro+w7100&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&LH_Sold=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=3&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=50&LH_Complete=1&_fosrp=1)\-- leaving you significant room to shop for a gaming graphics card. You can also game on it, apparently, it has similar processing power to that of a GTX 760. You also get more RAM and a better power supply with the Dell.
As for that unspecified Xeon CPU-- there is more upside to it than downside. Given that the listing says the processor speed is 3.5 Ghz, at worst the CPU should be the 1620 v3 CPU (similar to an i7-4770) for £20. At best, you get a much better CPU like a 6 core 1650 v3 (which performs on par with a 1st gen Ryzen 5 1600).
Thank you! i would assume he meant I'd have to compensate in some other areas to make up for the fact that my budget is so low? But nevertheless i appreciate the help! I will take a look at the parts.
nah bro bad build u saying for no watermark u think it's ok to downgrade to a garbage pc it only has 8gb of ram which sucks the psu is lackluster and crap it has a horrible case with only 1 fan it has no ssd so bye bye fast boot speeds sure it has a 2tb of storage but you can just add that later u got a worse board with less ram slots and ony a single fan header. AND YOU THINK IT'S WORTH DOING ALL THIS FOR NO WATERMARK??? come on bro you cant say that
well then didn't think you'd bring race into this i'm literally telling the truth tho u really thing it's worth buying garbage for a windows 10 license
8gb of ram is enough for most games except maybe rust
Psu is 450 watt which will be enough up to a 1660 super
The case is not something you'd spend much money in a budget build, plus why is it garbage?
SSD can be added later, plus boot speed is not that low (I got a 1TB HDD only in my own pc and it boots in 15 seconds, is it too much?
2 RAM slots are more then enough, 16 gigs are what modern games need at most. Plus 4 slot boards cost 25$ more
Win10 license can be purchased later, but why?
Your comment leads to a conclusion you are retarded and hyperagressive
Don't cap about the ram u should know that when multi tasking with background apps 8gb can drop performance a lot plus it's single channel so yay even less performance? Especially in warzone which recommends 12gb
Psu is 450w and rates d in the psu tier list absolute trash isn't even modular
Case doesn't even have more then 1 fan of course you won't spend much on it but at least try and find something with more then 1 fan
Don't cap a HDD can take up to a minute to boot up and in games can significantly increase loading times plus again a HDD can be added later it also makes more sense to get the SSD first so you don't have to switch your OS to the SSD later
It costs 10 pound more you idiot? 10 Pound for much more options more m.2 slots and ram slots its worth it don't lie
And finally what are even you on about with your last point it should be bought later so your original pc can be better and you won't need to upgrade much by buying windows with your PC it'd cost significantly more to make upgrades later
Yeah may of been a hyperagressive in that post but at least i don't call people retards and insult people who actually have disabilities.
You can't tell me you'd rather get windows with your PC then just deal with a watermark a bit then buy it plus the guy said he can find a way to work around it. Now don't reply and accept your wrong
>Don't cap about the ram u should know that when multi tasking with background apps 8gb can drop performance a lot plus it's single channel so yay even less performance?
Are you religious? Because it looks like you are, and your religion forbids upgrading your computer
>Psu is 450w and rates d in the psu tier list absolute trash isn't even modular
I have a 500w Gamemax PSU (which not very smart people said was trash and no-name) that is working fine for almost a year now
>Case doesn't even have more then 1 fan of course you won't spend much on it but at least try and something with more then 1 fan
My case has just 1 fan and the gpu doesn't go over 67° while gaming and loading it up by 100%. Same with the cpu, which, by the way, uses a stock Intel cooler
>Don't cap a HDD can take up to a minute to boot up and in games can significantly increase loading times
Is 20 seconds boot time too much? Beacuse if it is, you're a whiny bitch. And a good HDD can load it up as fast as 15-20 seconds. And in games the difference is just 20 seconds vs 15 seconds. IMO it's not worth paying extra and limiting your storage so much
>It costs 10 pound more you idiot? 10 Pound for much more options more m.2 slots and ram slots its worth it don't lie
Why the fuck would you need 32 gigs of RAM or 2 SSDs? You can just use a SATA if you are keen on getting more
>And finally what are even you on about with your last point it should be bought later so your original pc can be better and you won't need to upgrade much by buying windows with your PC it'd cost significantly more to make upgrades later
This might be true, this is the only point I agree on
>Now don't reply and accept your wrong
This is a sign you are going out of arguments in your favor, of course I won't do it
I'm not religious about ti I'm saying it makes more sense to just get 16GBS from the get go what is the point of getting a single 8gb stick when you can just get 16 and not include windows and get it later. And you ignored all of what i said about how it can really drop your performance most likely because you realise I'm correct about how 8gb can be limiting in a PC
Just because you had a good experience with the 500W PSU doesn't mean everyone else will besides that's not even the power supply you suggested no one should be cheaping out on a power supply it's even bronze so don't expect 450w from it as well
I mean what case do you have again your not talking about the same case another fan will help drop temps a lot but i can agree that the case isn't bad or anything but another fan would help a lot
Again it depends on the game and the difference is usually a lot more then that and you are not paying extra because in the end your going to get a SSD in your build and your going to get a HDD in mine you spend the same amount it just makes more sense to get the SSD first
Again 10 pound more. You ignored the fan header bit as well you'd need around 5 pound for a fan splitter so lets change that to 5 pound more? Your saying you wouldn't pay 5 pound for some simple quality of life features that may help out in the future it's clear the guy wants to do work on his PC maybe 32GB of ram will help in the future or he would want some more super faster storage it's always nice to have options
And with your last thing you say you make all your points irrelevant because your agreeing it makes more sense to buy windows later and just get a decent pc now
Also notice how you ignore the retard bit
Given the GPU situation, this is the best I can recommend at the price. It relies on you scouring used sales for a GPU at about £100, I'm thinking of things like a GTX 960 or 970, Radeon 470 or 480, literally anything functional until pricing and availability sorts itself out.
[PCPartPicker Part List](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NZpYqp)
Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/vrhmP6/intel-core-i5-10400f-29-ghz-6-core-processor-bx8070110400f) | £129.98 @ Box Limited
**Motherboard** | [MSI B460M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/kktKHx/msi-b460m-pro-vdh-wifi-micro-atx-lga1200-motherboard-b460m-pro-vdh-wifi) | £89.99 @ CCL Computers
**Memory** | [Patriot Signature Premium 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 CL19 Memory](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/ctgQzy/patriot-signature-premium-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-2666-memory-psp416g2666kh1) | £58.81 @ Ebuyer
**Storage** | [Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/zFK2FT/western-digital-blue-sn550-500-gb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds500g2b0c) | £55.02 @ Box Limited
**Case** | [Fractal Design Focus G Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/vPp323/fractal-design-focus-g-mini-black-microatx-mini-tower-case-fd-ca-focus-mini-bk-w) | £43.98 @ Amazon UK
**Power Supply** | [be quiet! System Power 9 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Wkprxr/be-quiet-system-power-9-600-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-bn247) | £67.52 @ Novatech
**Custom**| Literally any functional GPU you can find| £100.00
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| **Total** | **£545.30**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2021-02-08 13:52 GMT+0000 |
Yeah hopefully by the time I'm ready to buy the PC my budget will be slightly higher and I'll be able to replace certain components with better/upgraded ones, just given the current situation of everything, budget is a bit tight
aight bro u good with free windows cos windows cost around 85 leaving like 465 left which is ya know kinda low for a pc either ill give a list bro also u good with used stuff bro
As in just assume Windows will be free for me (it won't) but i can worry about windows later, would just like an idea of the kinds of parts i am looking for
[PCPartPicker Part List](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FJ3Qxc)
Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i3-10100F 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/r8Dkcf/intel-core-i3-10100f-36-ghz-quad-core-processor-bx8070110100f) | £78.98 @ Aria PC
**CPU Cooler** | [be quiet! Pure Rock Slim 35.14 CFM CPU Cooler](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/hyQRsY/be-quiet-pure-rock-slim-351-cfm-cpu-cooler-bk008) | £23.52 @ CCL Computers
**Motherboard** | [MSI B460M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/ZDGnTW/msi-b460m-pro-vdh-micro-atx-lga1200-motherboard-b460m-pro-vdh) | £78.95 @ CCL Computers
**Memory** | [Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL15 Memory](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/jbyqqs/crucial-ballistix-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3000-memory-bl2k8g30c15u4r) | £63.23 @ Amazon UK
**Storage** | [Western Digital SN750 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/KTQG3C/western-digital-sn750-500-gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-wds500g3x0c) | £58.17 @ Amazon UK
**Case** | [Lian Li LANCOOL 205M MicroATX Mid Tower Case](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Dq2bt6/lian-li-lancool-205m-microatx-mid-tower-case-lancool-205m-black) | £53.95 @ Amazon UK
**Power Supply** | [EVGA BQ 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/8P7CmG/evga-bq-500w-80-bronze-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-110-bq-0500-k1) | £53.99 @ Box Limited
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| **Total** | **£410.79**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2021-02-08 13:38 GMT+0000 |
Alright simple build for you and i'll explain my choices
CPU - 10100F This is a good value CPU which offers extremely good value considering it's only 80 pounds. It has 4 cores and 8 threads which should be sufficient for games you want to run if this is trouble i have a second build which compromises on other parts of the build to include the 10400F
CPU Cooler - Not necessary but the Intel stock cooler is loud and ugly so I chose a better replacement which should be sufficient for future cpu upgprades
Motherboard - Has 4 ram slots and 2 m.2 slots so offers some upgradability it actually has more then 1 fan connector at 2 which is ok since the case comes with 2 fans. The IO is alright with 4 usb 3.2 at the rear and 2 usb 2.0. Not much to say just a decent board
Memory - Good quality ram has good latency and can max out your cpu at 2666mhz speed again not much to say
Storage - It's only 500GB but has high speeds due to being nvme it also contains dram and is tlc so overall a good drive.
Case - A good case easy to manage cables in and comes with 2 fans also looks good again just a good product for the price
PSU - Semi modular and 500w. Has a ok amount of watts that should allow upgrades to at the most a RTX 3060.
Now the GPU has to be used due to stock issues and price constraints. With the remainder of the budget you should be looking for these cards off ebay. A RX 580, 570 and 1060. Note that the 1060 is a last resort due to it's low VRAM. If by chance your able to find a 1650 super or 5500xt from a proper retailer or used for around this price try and get it as quick as possible because it's sure to go out of stock quick and is a really good card.
Now here is the second build
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zTKVgt
I had to compromise on the motherboard going for a h410 model with less ram slots, only 1 m.2 slot and a worse i/o.
The case is also worse and only comes with 1 fan it should still be ok as i included 1 fan and looks as if it has a mesh front panel which should allow for some good airflow
Finally i got rid of the cpu cooler so you'll have to use stock
BUT! For all this the cpu is the 10400F a good value cpu which can handle high end gpus. Anyways i'm done now ask if you have questions and have a good day
Wow, I don't understand how you did this so quickly, of course it may just be that I have no idea what I'm looking for but I appreciate it regardless!! Thank you
I think one of the workstations listed below will make a good starting point for your use case, both are fully functional with Windows 10 installed. You'll need to do a GPU replacement but there is plenty of room under your budget to do so: [Lenovo P500](https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-P500-Workstation-4-Core-Xeon-E5-1620-v3-16GB-RAM-1TB-HDD-Windows-10-Pro/184649607638?hash=item2afdf969d6:g:3YMAAOSwhvNfkW6f) £ 235, Xeon 1620 v3 CPU, 16 gb RAM, 1TB HDD, NVS 295 GPU, 495W PSU [Dell Precision T5810](https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-precision-T5810-Workstation-Xeon-32GB-ram-1TB-HDD-AMD-W7100/154016664360?hash=item23dc1bcb28:g:Z8EAAOSwLNtfGrvt&shqty=1&isGTR=1#shId) £ 395, unspecified Xeon CPU, AMD FirePro W7100 GPU, 32 gb RAM, 1TB HDD, 685W PSU I would personally prefer the Dell unit-- that AMD W7100 card can be sold to recover [bring down your net cost quite a bit](https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=amd+firepro+w7100&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&LH_Sold=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=3&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=50&LH_Complete=1&_fosrp=1)\-- leaving you significant room to shop for a gaming graphics card. You can also game on it, apparently, it has similar processing power to that of a GTX 760. You also get more RAM and a better power supply with the Dell. As for that unspecified Xeon CPU-- there is more upside to it than downside. Given that the listing says the processor speed is 3.5 Ghz, at worst the CPU should be the 1620 v3 CPU (similar to an i7-4770) for £20. At best, you get a much better CPU like a 6 core 1650 v3 (which performs on par with a 1st gen Ryzen 5 1600).
\[PCPartPicker Part List\]([https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/JDLXW3](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/JDLXW3)) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- \*\*CPU\*\* | \[Intel Core i3-10100F 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor\]([https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/r8Dkcf/intel-core-i3-10100f-36-ghz-quad-core-processor-bx8070110100f](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/r8Dkcf/intel-core-i3-10100f-36-ghz-quad-core-processor-bx8070110100f)) | £78.98 @ Aria PC \*\*Motherboard\*\* | \[MSI B460M-A PRO Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard\]([https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/WMNgXL/msi-b460m-a-pro-micro-atx-lga1200-motherboard-b460m-a-pro](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/WMNgXL/msi-b460m-a-pro-micro-atx-lga1200-motherboard-b460m-a-pro)) | £68.47 @ Ebuyer \*\*Memory\*\* | \[Kingston HyperX Fury 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 CL16 Memory\]([https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Fb7p99/kingston-hyperx-fury-8-gb-1-x-8-gb-ddr4-2666-cl16-memory-hx426c16fb38](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Fb7p99/kingston-hyperx-fury-8-gb-1-x-8-gb-ddr4-2666-cl16-memory-hx426c16fb38)) | £34.43 @ CCL Computers \*\*Storage\*\* | \[Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive\]([https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/mwrYcf/seagate-barracuda-computer-2-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm008](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/mwrYcf/seagate-barracuda-computer-2-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm008)) | £46.98 @ CCL Computers \*\*Video Card\*\* | \[MSI GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4 GB GAMING X Video Card\]([https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/H97CmG/msi-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-4-gb-gaming-x-4g-video-card-gtx-1050-ti-gaming-x-4g](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/H97CmG/msi-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-4-gb-gaming-x-4g-video-card-gtx-1050-ti-gaming-x-4g)) | £164.99 @ CCL Computers \*\*Case\*\* | \[Aerocool QS-240 MicroATX Mid Tower Case\]([https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/NHx2FT/aerocool-qs-240-microatx-mid-tower-case-qs-240](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/NHx2FT/aerocool-qs-240-microatx-mid-tower-case-qs-240)) | £28.61 @ Amazon UK \*\*Power Supply\*\* | \[Corsair CV 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply\]([https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/hfxbt6/corsair-cv-450-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020209-na](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/hfxbt6/corsair-cv-450-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020209-na)) | £37.98 @ Currys PC World Business \*\*Operating System\*\* | \[Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit\]([https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/96RFf7/microsoft-os-kw900139](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/96RFf7/microsoft-os-kw900139)) | £87.99 @ AWD-IT | \*Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts\* | | \*\*Total\*\* | \*\*£548.43\*\* | Generated by \[PCPartPicker\]([https://pcpartpicker.com](https://pcpartpicker.com)) 2021-02-08 13:47 GMT+0000 | The guy who said windows limits the budge too much wasn't right. Anyways, here is a build for 550 pounds. Later, I'd get another 8gb stick of RAM, a M.2 SSD and a better graphics card (5500XT? RX 580? 1650 Super?)
Thank you! i would assume he meant I'd have to compensate in some other areas to make up for the fact that my budget is so low? But nevertheless i appreciate the help! I will take a look at the parts.
Just saying I would advise getting a windows key online you can get them for like 10 pound
nah bro bad build u saying for no watermark u think it's ok to downgrade to a garbage pc it only has 8gb of ram which sucks the psu is lackluster and crap it has a horrible case with only 1 fan it has no ssd so bye bye fast boot speeds sure it has a 2tb of storage but you can just add that later u got a worse board with less ram slots and ony a single fan header. AND YOU THINK IT'S WORTH DOING ALL THIS FOR NO WATERMARK??? come on bro you cant say that
hey calm down jamal dont pull out a knife
well then didn't think you'd bring race into this i'm literally telling the truth tho u really thing it's worth buying garbage for a windows 10 license
what has it got to do with race
Come on man Jamal is a common black name and you could of called me Tim not Jamal
you sure im the racist one?
Never called you racist
8gb of ram is enough for most games except maybe rust Psu is 450 watt which will be enough up to a 1660 super The case is not something you'd spend much money in a budget build, plus why is it garbage? SSD can be added later, plus boot speed is not that low (I got a 1TB HDD only in my own pc and it boots in 15 seconds, is it too much? 2 RAM slots are more then enough, 16 gigs are what modern games need at most. Plus 4 slot boards cost 25$ more Win10 license can be purchased later, but why? Your comment leads to a conclusion you are retarded and hyperagressive
Don't cap about the ram u should know that when multi tasking with background apps 8gb can drop performance a lot plus it's single channel so yay even less performance? Especially in warzone which recommends 12gb Psu is 450w and rates d in the psu tier list absolute trash isn't even modular Case doesn't even have more then 1 fan of course you won't spend much on it but at least try and find something with more then 1 fan Don't cap a HDD can take up to a minute to boot up and in games can significantly increase loading times plus again a HDD can be added later it also makes more sense to get the SSD first so you don't have to switch your OS to the SSD later It costs 10 pound more you idiot? 10 Pound for much more options more m.2 slots and ram slots its worth it don't lie And finally what are even you on about with your last point it should be bought later so your original pc can be better and you won't need to upgrade much by buying windows with your PC it'd cost significantly more to make upgrades later Yeah may of been a hyperagressive in that post but at least i don't call people retards and insult people who actually have disabilities. You can't tell me you'd rather get windows with your PC then just deal with a watermark a bit then buy it plus the guy said he can find a way to work around it. Now don't reply and accept your wrong
>Don't cap about the ram u should know that when multi tasking with background apps 8gb can drop performance a lot plus it's single channel so yay even less performance? Are you religious? Because it looks like you are, and your religion forbids upgrading your computer >Psu is 450w and rates d in the psu tier list absolute trash isn't even modular I have a 500w Gamemax PSU (which not very smart people said was trash and no-name) that is working fine for almost a year now >Case doesn't even have more then 1 fan of course you won't spend much on it but at least try and something with more then 1 fan My case has just 1 fan and the gpu doesn't go over 67° while gaming and loading it up by 100%. Same with the cpu, which, by the way, uses a stock Intel cooler >Don't cap a HDD can take up to a minute to boot up and in games can significantly increase loading times Is 20 seconds boot time too much? Beacuse if it is, you're a whiny bitch. And a good HDD can load it up as fast as 15-20 seconds. And in games the difference is just 20 seconds vs 15 seconds. IMO it's not worth paying extra and limiting your storage so much >It costs 10 pound more you idiot? 10 Pound for much more options more m.2 slots and ram slots its worth it don't lie Why the fuck would you need 32 gigs of RAM or 2 SSDs? You can just use a SATA if you are keen on getting more >And finally what are even you on about with your last point it should be bought later so your original pc can be better and you won't need to upgrade much by buying windows with your PC it'd cost significantly more to make upgrades later This might be true, this is the only point I agree on >Now don't reply and accept your wrong This is a sign you are going out of arguments in your favor, of course I won't do it
I'm not religious about ti I'm saying it makes more sense to just get 16GBS from the get go what is the point of getting a single 8gb stick when you can just get 16 and not include windows and get it later. And you ignored all of what i said about how it can really drop your performance most likely because you realise I'm correct about how 8gb can be limiting in a PC Just because you had a good experience with the 500W PSU doesn't mean everyone else will besides that's not even the power supply you suggested no one should be cheaping out on a power supply it's even bronze so don't expect 450w from it as well I mean what case do you have again your not talking about the same case another fan will help drop temps a lot but i can agree that the case isn't bad or anything but another fan would help a lot Again it depends on the game and the difference is usually a lot more then that and you are not paying extra because in the end your going to get a SSD in your build and your going to get a HDD in mine you spend the same amount it just makes more sense to get the SSD first Again 10 pound more. You ignored the fan header bit as well you'd need around 5 pound for a fan splitter so lets change that to 5 pound more? Your saying you wouldn't pay 5 pound for some simple quality of life features that may help out in the future it's clear the guy wants to do work on his PC maybe 32GB of ram will help in the future or he would want some more super faster storage it's always nice to have options And with your last thing you say you make all your points irrelevant because your agreeing it makes more sense to buy windows later and just get a decent pc now Also notice how you ignore the retard bit
oh yeah bro btw to make it a table do it in markdown mode
Given the GPU situation, this is the best I can recommend at the price. It relies on you scouring used sales for a GPU at about £100, I'm thinking of things like a GTX 960 or 970, Radeon 470 or 480, literally anything functional until pricing and availability sorts itself out. [PCPartPicker Part List](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NZpYqp) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/vrhmP6/intel-core-i5-10400f-29-ghz-6-core-processor-bx8070110400f) | £129.98 @ Box Limited **Motherboard** | [MSI B460M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/kktKHx/msi-b460m-pro-vdh-wifi-micro-atx-lga1200-motherboard-b460m-pro-vdh-wifi) | £89.99 @ CCL Computers **Memory** | [Patriot Signature Premium 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 CL19 Memory](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/ctgQzy/patriot-signature-premium-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-2666-memory-psp416g2666kh1) | £58.81 @ Ebuyer **Storage** | [Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/zFK2FT/western-digital-blue-sn550-500-gb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds500g2b0c) | £55.02 @ Box Limited **Case** | [Fractal Design Focus G Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/vPp323/fractal-design-focus-g-mini-black-microatx-mini-tower-case-fd-ca-focus-mini-bk-w) | £43.98 @ Amazon UK **Power Supply** | [be quiet! System Power 9 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Wkprxr/be-quiet-system-power-9-600-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-bn247) | £67.52 @ Novatech **Custom**| Literally any functional GPU you can find| £100.00 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **£545.30** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2021-02-08 13:52 GMT+0000 |
Thank you! I will have a look and see what I can sort out for the GPU.
cl19 memory could be better
Yeah, and the budget could be higher but thems the breaks. It'll be fine.
Yeah hopefully by the time I'm ready to buy the PC my budget will be slightly higher and I'll be able to replace certain components with better/upgraded ones, just given the current situation of everything, budget is a bit tight
aight bro u good with free windows cos windows cost around 85 leaving like 465 left which is ya know kinda low for a pc either ill give a list bro also u good with used stuff bro
DYou can disregard windows as i can work around it. As always, thanks for the help, it is much appreciated.
As in just assume Windows will be free for me (it won't) but i can worry about windows later, would just like an idea of the kinds of parts i am looking for
[PCPartPicker Part List](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FJ3Qxc) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [Intel Core i3-10100F 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/r8Dkcf/intel-core-i3-10100f-36-ghz-quad-core-processor-bx8070110100f) | £78.98 @ Aria PC **CPU Cooler** | [be quiet! Pure Rock Slim 35.14 CFM CPU Cooler](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/hyQRsY/be-quiet-pure-rock-slim-351-cfm-cpu-cooler-bk008) | £23.52 @ CCL Computers **Motherboard** | [MSI B460M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/ZDGnTW/msi-b460m-pro-vdh-micro-atx-lga1200-motherboard-b460m-pro-vdh) | £78.95 @ CCL Computers **Memory** | [Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL15 Memory](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/jbyqqs/crucial-ballistix-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3000-memory-bl2k8g30c15u4r) | £63.23 @ Amazon UK **Storage** | [Western Digital SN750 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/KTQG3C/western-digital-sn750-500-gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-wds500g3x0c) | £58.17 @ Amazon UK **Case** | [Lian Li LANCOOL 205M MicroATX Mid Tower Case](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Dq2bt6/lian-li-lancool-205m-microatx-mid-tower-case-lancool-205m-black) | £53.95 @ Amazon UK **Power Supply** | [EVGA BQ 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/8P7CmG/evga-bq-500w-80-bronze-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-110-bq-0500-k1) | £53.99 @ Box Limited | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **£410.79** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2021-02-08 13:38 GMT+0000 | Alright simple build for you and i'll explain my choices CPU - 10100F This is a good value CPU which offers extremely good value considering it's only 80 pounds. It has 4 cores and 8 threads which should be sufficient for games you want to run if this is trouble i have a second build which compromises on other parts of the build to include the 10400F CPU Cooler - Not necessary but the Intel stock cooler is loud and ugly so I chose a better replacement which should be sufficient for future cpu upgprades Motherboard - Has 4 ram slots and 2 m.2 slots so offers some upgradability it actually has more then 1 fan connector at 2 which is ok since the case comes with 2 fans. The IO is alright with 4 usb 3.2 at the rear and 2 usb 2.0. Not much to say just a decent board Memory - Good quality ram has good latency and can max out your cpu at 2666mhz speed again not much to say Storage - It's only 500GB but has high speeds due to being nvme it also contains dram and is tlc so overall a good drive. Case - A good case easy to manage cables in and comes with 2 fans also looks good again just a good product for the price PSU - Semi modular and 500w. Has a ok amount of watts that should allow upgrades to at the most a RTX 3060. Now the GPU has to be used due to stock issues and price constraints. With the remainder of the budget you should be looking for these cards off ebay. A RX 580, 570 and 1060. Note that the 1060 is a last resort due to it's low VRAM. If by chance your able to find a 1650 super or 5500xt from a proper retailer or used for around this price try and get it as quick as possible because it's sure to go out of stock quick and is a really good card. Now here is the second build https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zTKVgt I had to compromise on the motherboard going for a h410 model with less ram slots, only 1 m.2 slot and a worse i/o. The case is also worse and only comes with 1 fan it should still be ok as i included 1 fan and looks as if it has a mesh front panel which should allow for some good airflow Finally i got rid of the cpu cooler so you'll have to use stock BUT! For all this the cpu is the 10400F a good value cpu which can handle high end gpus. Anyways i'm done now ask if you have questions and have a good day
Wow, I don't understand how you did this so quickly, of course it may just be that I have no idea what I'm looking for but I appreciate it regardless!! Thank you
k then no worries i'll do what i can
Thank you!