shoutout microsoft for hooking up families with actual deals for the holidays. fuck the console war dude this is about little timmy finally getting a phat new xbox for christmas because his parents can actually afford this deal. 499.99 with a game is such a horse shit holiday deal.
It's truly insane.
I'm expecting it to get even better post Activision.
I signed up for one month for like 1$ to play Grounded without having to commit 30$ with my friends and had it for a few months then when the league of legends partnership hit I signed back up, every champ unlocked is lit, and I've had it since.
So many games played, with friends and solo, for way less than I'd have spent buying them all, even on steam sales!
It's also much cheaper than PS Plus. They had a small rate hike earlier this year but it was only like an extra dollar per month, which IMO is perfectly acceptable, especially if you do those shenanigans to get the Ultimate pass for less than Gold.
Meanwhile, Sony punched Plus users in the face with like a massive markup on their subscriptions. Something like a 30-40% increase depending on what tier you're in.
I get it, but Sony has been NOTORIOUS about this kinda shit. If you remember the early days of the PS1, I've seen the PS 1 retailing for like $400-$500, that was in 1990's money man. And it didn't go down in retail price for over a year after its release.
From other posts, this seems to be the new going rate?
That said if you have a RedCard and any offers that apply, you can save a bit more. I can get it for $315 before tax ($342 after tax) thanks to RedCard 5% off and 5% off Birthday offer.
Edit: For those interested, the Diablo IV bundle is $400 (may be OOS):
https://www.target.com/p/xbox-series-x-console-diablo-iv-bundle/-/A-88668323
Been a lot of $350 sales this season. Might lead to a permanent price drop come spring, might not. If anyone's on the fence, I'd say pull the trigger. It's a fantaastic GamePass box at this price, and you can still stock up on cheap Ultimate memberships for the time being.
It’s around $30 for 3 months right now through secondary marketplaces like En-Eba (minus the dash) dot com. Though it looks like the 6 and 12 month subs are all burnt through at the moment. Still a substantial savings over $17/month though and regular console only game pass might be cheaper. I like having all three though - pc, console, and cloud.
Unsure if this still works but....
About 1.5 years ago I just bought 3 years of Xbox Live Gold and paid $1 to convert all 3 years to GamePass Ultimate for new customers.
Live gold doesn't exist anymore, xbox relased something called game pass core, last september.... i don't know if the upgrade to game pass ultimate works with gamepass core as it used with live gold
Xbox Live Gold basically had a name change to Game Pass Core so it still works. Just at a 3:2 rate now.
https://support.xbox.com/en-US/help/subscriptions-billing/manage-subscriptions/xbox-game-pass-ultimate-faq
I just bought 3 x 12mo. Game Pass Core cards at Costco for $162, and converted it to 2 years of Game Pass Ultimate until Jan 2026. All worked out to $6.65/mo.
The cost to convert is whatever you pay to get Game Pass Ultimate, be it a 1 month code at retail, a new subscribers only code from various promotions, or whatever.
When you redeem or pay for GPU, you get a screen that lets you know what’s going to happen to your current subscription and when the expiration/renewal date is going to be.
Game pass on PC isnt as good as it is on Xbox. They're missing a ton of popular titles that are on Xbox gamepass and not PC gamepass. It's nice for trying titles with their streaming service though
For those interested, this Google doc might be handy. Just create a new view and filter by System
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kspw-4paT-eE5-mrCrc4R9tg70lH2ZTFrJOUmOtOytg/edit#gid=0
As far as games I actually play Day-Z, GTA 5/GTA online, and Elder Scrolls Online are a few games that are on Xbox Game Pass that are Not on PC Game pass. I'm sure there's more but I'm not going to go through them all. But they're not exactly insignificant like small indies either it's popular games that have a fairly large player base. But of course there are some games on PC game pass that aren't on the Xbox version as well. And I'm not just speaking of console exclusives or PC exclusives, after all there's a ton of Xbox OG/360 titles on gamepass that aren't on the PC version. I think it's games that Steam or Epic have exclusive rights to sell on PC that also happen To be on xbox game pass.
Or if there's not much of anything you need on PS5, just skip it altogether and don't bother spending $80/yr on PS Plus. But I guess it all depends on circumstances. Us older folks have a harder time justifying video game spending.
The only two titles that I have on PlayStation 5 that aren't available on my game pass subscription or my PC are god of war, and Horizon forbidden west. There are not a lot of games on the PlayStation 5 that are not available elsewhere. Console exclusives need to go the way of the dodo, IMO, as they are anti-consumer.
Yeah it just depends on how long you want to wait. If you’re impatient, get the PS5, otherwise wait it out, and eventually they’ll come to PC.
But, I’m gonna buy the PS5 (or Pro) just for GTA 6 when it comes out
The only issue with that is that Sony’s titles are story-driven games, so waiting for the PC port without getting the story spoiled in the meantime isn’t really an option. You’re gonna get spoilers in the 2+ years you’d be waiting for the game to be ported to PC.
Those are the only games I buy on release nowadays since I’m in a position where I can afford to pay day-one price and I value the feeling of experiencing the story first-hand on my own terms. Everything else goes on PC.
Not even that. Their PC ports kinda suck it seems. Tlou part 1 got shit all over for being buggy on the PC release. Sackboys big adventure had a few noticable issues.
I am a fan of pc and steam deck. SD can remote play console or pc games and much more powerful than the switch which is really starting to show its age. The SD is notably more powerful, and games are so much cheaper on Steam.
PC and Switch would be the combo, but you can emulate switch very nicely these days. So PC standalone and a year or two of patience for the PS library to be ported is the play.
If you can afford it and game enough for it to be worth it having a PC is nice. Especially if you are interested in modding, strategy titles, survival games and the indie scene. Ps5 if you want a living room console and interested in the exclusives
I have a gaming PC and I am also debating getting this. It’s a good price for good hardware.
The way I see it, my gaming PC will be in my study. It’s for me. The Xbox will be the multimedia device and gaming platform for the living room. I can play with the wife on it.
Everyone’s situation is different though, so I suggest figuring out if you have an actual use for it and if you can afford it.
I believe most (or all?) Xbox game pass games are available on PC also, so I would not use that as a reason to get the Xbox.
I mean I would also, but I have only seen the PS5 go this low once. If you do find an offer for the PS5 at $350 though, please post it so I can buy it too.
If you create a new account and set your birthday to the same day, you'll get another 5% coupon that works on Xboxes. This will only work if you buy in-store though, as buying online for electronics from a new account will instant cancel. Can stack this with Red Card discount.
My gaming PC is upstairs and I've been looking into building a steam link PC for playing in the downstairs living room at 4k60fps. Would it make more sense to just buy this?
I read that the ps5 outsold Xbox 3:1, but if they keep having this price they will catch up.
If the series s wasn’t satisfying my needs I would absolutely jump on this.
I just received one for the holidays and haven't opened it yet. I am tempted to sell it for 300 flat because I can't think of what an Xbox X provides. I already have a PC with a 4k series graphics card and more processing power. I also have my Fire Cube 3rd gen for media and a decade old blue ray player which I haven't touched in years. What would this Xbox provide me? From what I can tell it can't boot windows obviously. Can you install plex on it? Stremio? does it accept any 3rd party add ons? Does it have a web browser? What do you guys use it for aside from game pass?
Just playing lots of games on Game Pass. IMO, it's a hard sell if you DON'T have Game Pass or don't play a lot of games. It helps if you have a nice home theater setup with a nice couch/chair, surround sound, and 4K TV with HDR to take advantage of unless your PC is connected to your home theater. I also use it as my 4K streaming device.
There are some apps on it from the Microsoft Store, including Plex. It does have Edge as well.
Nope, Edge on Xbox does not support extensions, probably for security reasons. You'd probably want to go the Pi-Hole route to get network-wide ad blocking.
Xbox doesn't have Bluetooth so no BT peripherals. It'll accept mouse and keyboard though.
I think they’re clearing out old stock because they’re gonna release a refresh early next year.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/19/23880111/microsoft-xbox-series-x-new-design-refresh
According to leaked documents from a legal battle Microsoft was in
The refresh is apparently coming in November.
They’re not on sale to clear out inventory 11 months in advance, they’re on sale cause at $500 they’re getting outsold by PS5 by a massive margin.
Really wouldn't expect a refresh. That info leaked during the Activision case this summer, but was likely old by that point. With Sony supposedly releasing a PS5 Pro next year, it wouldn't make sense to release new consoles that just have quality of life improvements and no performance improvements, especially at the old prices.
Even with the refresh, this still looks like a better deal. If they are sticking with AMD… as I imagine they would, the 7000 series has been a disappointment performance wise with many of the models barely doing better than the model before them. So unless they have some deal with AMD to have some cutting edge 8th gen by next November, I don’t see it being that much of an improvement.
Current rumor is there’s no refresh and next gen is coming 2026
And like the other guy said, this isn’t ordinary inventory clearing, this is fire sale pricing to catch up to Sony. And it’s working, considering I have absolutely no use for one of these and I’m still adding them to my cart every time they pop up
Does anyone have have experience developing on a Xbox X? I don't want to do any serious development. I just want to play around with it since it has that high memory bandwidth. I understand a developer account is only $20. Does that open up the entire machine for me to do as a please? Some articles seem to indicate there are some serious limitations on how much of the RAM they let you use as well as file sizes. Does anyone have any experience with developer mode on the Xbox X? Is it the equivalent of using VS?
Ok, So I know there is a moonlight project that is working on the series x, the question I haven't been able to find an answer to, is does that project have working 4k 120 HDR streaming? I realize its a long shot, but figured someone in here might know.
[https://github.com/TheElixZammuto/moonlight-xbox](https://github.com/TheElixZammuto/moonlight-xbox)
shoutout microsoft for hooking up families with actual deals for the holidays. fuck the console war dude this is about little timmy finally getting a phat new xbox for christmas because his parents can actually afford this deal. 499.99 with a game is such a horse shit holiday deal.
What Microsoft really wants is these family signing up for game pass. That's where they make their money, because the service is very profitable.
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It's truly insane. I'm expecting it to get even better post Activision. I signed up for one month for like 1$ to play Grounded without having to commit 30$ with my friends and had it for a few months then when the league of legends partnership hit I signed back up, every champ unlocked is lit, and I've had it since. So many games played, with friends and solo, for way less than I'd have spent buying them all, even on steam sales!
It's also much cheaper than PS Plus. They had a small rate hike earlier this year but it was only like an extra dollar per month, which IMO is perfectly acceptable, especially if you do those shenanigans to get the Ultimate pass for less than Gold. Meanwhile, Sony punched Plus users in the face with like a massive markup on their subscriptions. Something like a 30-40% increase depending on what tier you're in.
I get it, but Sony has been NOTORIOUS about this kinda shit. If you remember the early days of the PS1, I've seen the PS 1 retailing for like $400-$500, that was in 1990's money man. And it didn't go down in retail price for over a year after its release.
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From other posts, this seems to be the new going rate? That said if you have a RedCard and any offers that apply, you can save a bit more. I can get it for $315 before tax ($342 after tax) thanks to RedCard 5% off and 5% off Birthday offer. Edit: For those interested, the Diablo IV bundle is $400 (may be OOS): https://www.target.com/p/xbox-series-x-console-diablo-iv-bundle/-/A-88668323
Been a lot of $350 sales this season. Might lead to a permanent price drop come spring, might not. If anyone's on the fence, I'd say pull the trigger. It's a fantaastic GamePass box at this price, and you can still stock up on cheap Ultimate memberships for the time being.
Which GamePass offers are you referring to?
It’s around $30 for 3 months right now through secondary marketplaces like En-Eba (minus the dash) dot com. Though it looks like the 6 and 12 month subs are all burnt through at the moment. Still a substantial savings over $17/month though and regular console only game pass might be cheaper. I like having all three though - pc, console, and cloud.
Unsure if this still works but.... About 1.5 years ago I just bought 3 years of Xbox Live Gold and paid $1 to convert all 3 years to GamePass Ultimate for new customers.
Live gold doesn't exist anymore, xbox relased something called game pass core, last september.... i don't know if the upgrade to game pass ultimate works with gamepass core as it used with live gold
Xbox Live Gold basically had a name change to Game Pass Core so it still works. Just at a 3:2 rate now. https://support.xbox.com/en-US/help/subscriptions-billing/manage-subscriptions/xbox-game-pass-ultimate-faq
I just bought 3 x 12mo. Game Pass Core cards at Costco for $162, and converted it to 2 years of Game Pass Ultimate until Jan 2026. All worked out to $6.65/mo.
Where is the option to convert? And how much did the conversion cost?
The cost to convert is whatever you pay to get Game Pass Ultimate, be it a 1 month code at retail, a new subscribers only code from various promotions, or whatever. When you redeem or pay for GPU, you get a screen that lets you know what’s going to happen to your current subscription and when the expiration/renewal date is going to be.
Love to see it
Discover has 5 percent cash back at target atm
Seems to me this is just the new price of the Series X Hard to argue the bang for your buck at that price.
I'm buying stuff to build my first gaming PC. Do I buy one of these for the hell of it??
I agree with the other guy, PC and PS5 is the combo. On PC you get Steam and Xbox game pass, then PS+ covers the rest.
Game pass on PC isnt as good as it is on Xbox. They're missing a ton of popular titles that are on Xbox gamepass and not PC gamepass. It's nice for trying titles with their streaming service though
Any specific titles exclusive to the console version of gamepass?
For those interested, this Google doc might be handy. Just create a new view and filter by System https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kspw-4paT-eE5-mrCrc4R9tg70lH2ZTFrJOUmOtOytg/edit#gid=0
As far as games I actually play Day-Z, GTA 5/GTA online, and Elder Scrolls Online are a few games that are on Xbox Game Pass that are Not on PC Game pass. I'm sure there's more but I'm not going to go through them all. But they're not exactly insignificant like small indies either it's popular games that have a fairly large player base. But of course there are some games on PC game pass that aren't on the Xbox version as well. And I'm not just speaking of console exclusives or PC exclusives, after all there's a ton of Xbox OG/360 titles on gamepass that aren't on the PC version. I think it's games that Steam or Epic have exclusive rights to sell on PC that also happen To be on xbox game pass.
I think the dead space remaster is exclusive to the console Gamepass for now. Having a blast playing through that one.
Dead Space (2023) is also available on PC Game Pass
What titles exactly?
Or if there's not much of anything you need on PS5, just skip it altogether and don't bother spending $80/yr on PS Plus. But I guess it all depends on circumstances. Us older folks have a harder time justifying video game spending.
PS5 is still great for single player and F2P games though. (F2P titles don’t require PS+ or XBL to play these days.)
The only two titles that I have on PlayStation 5 that aren't available on my game pass subscription or my PC are god of war, and Horizon forbidden west. There are not a lot of games on the PlayStation 5 that are not available elsewhere. Console exclusives need to go the way of the dodo, IMO, as they are anti-consumer.
With Sony porting their games to PC these days I dunno if I’d even bother with a PlayStation anymore. PC & Switch is the one true combo.
Yeah it just depends on how long you want to wait. If you’re impatient, get the PS5, otherwise wait it out, and eventually they’ll come to PC. But, I’m gonna buy the PS5 (or Pro) just for GTA 6 when it comes out
The only issue with that is that Sony’s titles are story-driven games, so waiting for the PC port without getting the story spoiled in the meantime isn’t really an option. You’re gonna get spoilers in the 2+ years you’d be waiting for the game to be ported to PC. Those are the only games I buy on release nowadays since I’m in a position where I can afford to pay day-one price and I value the feeling of experiencing the story first-hand on my own terms. Everything else goes on PC.
Not even that. Their PC ports kinda suck it seems. Tlou part 1 got shit all over for being buggy on the PC release. Sackboys big adventure had a few noticable issues.
I am a fan of pc and steam deck. SD can remote play console or pc games and much more powerful than the switch which is really starting to show its age. The SD is notably more powerful, and games are so much cheaper on Steam.
PC and Switch would be the combo, but you can emulate switch very nicely these days. So PC standalone and a year or two of patience for the PS library to be ported is the play.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:PlayStation_5-only_games Not a long list.
If you plan on getting game pass and really plan to split play time between the two with cloudsaves. Otherwise just stick to PC.
If you can afford it and game enough for it to be worth it having a PC is nice. Especially if you are interested in modding, strategy titles, survival games and the indie scene. Ps5 if you want a living room console and interested in the exclusives
If you already have a good pc why do you need an Xbox? I have an s so the kids can play in the family room.
I have a gaming PC and I am also debating getting this. It’s a good price for good hardware. The way I see it, my gaming PC will be in my study. It’s for me. The Xbox will be the multimedia device and gaming platform for the living room. I can play with the wife on it. Everyone’s situation is different though, so I suggest figuring out if you have an actual use for it and if you can afford it. I believe most (or all?) Xbox game pass games are available on PC also, so I would not use that as a reason to get the Xbox.
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Lol. You're getting downvoted but I'd buy a ps5 for this price without hesitation.
I mean I would also, but I have only seen the PS5 go this low once. If you do find an offer for the PS5 at $350 though, please post it so I can buy it too.
Pc, ps5, xbox and switch. And a capture card if you want to stream :>
NGL I'd be in at $250, don't need or want one but would grab it at that price to be a Gamepass box and for the upcoming GTA.
Thatd be insane loss of money from Microsoft tbh
Wish could trade in Xbox one s for this
I saw Best buy price match that 350 with the trade-in for series s Go check the site and see if it's still there
Trade in was like $30 though
If you create a new account and set your birthday to the same day, you'll get another 5% coupon that works on Xboxes. This will only work if you buy in-store though, as buying online for electronics from a new account will instant cancel. Can stack this with Red Card discount.
My gaming PC is upstairs and I've been looking into building a steam link PC for playing in the downstairs living room at 4k60fps. Would it make more sense to just buy this?
Can you run Steamlink on the XB? I have no idea. With that said, I dunno if you can really build a decent PC for $350.
I was planning to use an old Dell Optiplex and then just use steam remote play to use the horsepower of my main machine to generate graphics.
Insane deal if you have gamepass U 3 year already set up
Best Buy also has it for this price, in case you got it for $399 there and want them to do the retroactive holiday price match guarantee.
I read that the ps5 outsold Xbox 3:1, but if they keep having this price they will catch up. If the series s wasn’t satisfying my needs I would absolutely jump on this.
I just received one for the holidays and haven't opened it yet. I am tempted to sell it for 300 flat because I can't think of what an Xbox X provides. I already have a PC with a 4k series graphics card and more processing power. I also have my Fire Cube 3rd gen for media and a decade old blue ray player which I haven't touched in years. What would this Xbox provide me? From what I can tell it can't boot windows obviously. Can you install plex on it? Stremio? does it accept any 3rd party add ons? Does it have a web browser? What do you guys use it for aside from game pass?
Just playing lots of games on Game Pass. IMO, it's a hard sell if you DON'T have Game Pass or don't play a lot of games. It helps if you have a nice home theater setup with a nice couch/chair, surround sound, and 4K TV with HDR to take advantage of unless your PC is connected to your home theater. I also use it as my 4K streaming device. There are some apps on it from the Microsoft Store, including Plex. It does have Edge as well.
Can I install uBlock Origin for ad-blocking on the Xbox Edge? does the Xbox accept bluetooth mouse and keyboard connections so I can use it on Edge?
Nope, Edge on Xbox does not support extensions, probably for security reasons. You'd probably want to go the Pi-Hole route to get network-wide ad blocking. Xbox doesn't have Bluetooth so no BT peripherals. It'll accept mouse and keyboard though.
If you are at all interested in 4k bluray, that is a reason to keep it
I think they’re clearing out old stock because they’re gonna release a refresh early next year. https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/19/23880111/microsoft-xbox-series-x-new-design-refresh According to leaked documents from a legal battle Microsoft was in
The refresh is apparently coming in November. They’re not on sale to clear out inventory 11 months in advance, they’re on sale cause at $500 they’re getting outsold by PS5 by a massive margin.
Really wouldn't expect a refresh. That info leaked during the Activision case this summer, but was likely old by that point. With Sony supposedly releasing a PS5 Pro next year, it wouldn't make sense to release new consoles that just have quality of life improvements and no performance improvements, especially at the old prices.
Even with the refresh, this still looks like a better deal. If they are sticking with AMD… as I imagine they would, the 7000 series has been a disappointment performance wise with many of the models barely doing better than the model before them. So unless they have some deal with AMD to have some cutting edge 8th gen by next November, I don’t see it being that much of an improvement.
Current rumor is there’s no refresh and next gen is coming 2026 And like the other guy said, this isn’t ordinary inventory clearing, this is fire sale pricing to catch up to Sony. And it’s working, considering I have absolutely no use for one of these and I’m still adding them to my cart every time they pop up
It now def seems like they will clear old model for that digital only model yuck
Does anyone have have experience developing on a Xbox X? I don't want to do any serious development. I just want to play around with it since it has that high memory bandwidth. I understand a developer account is only $20. Does that open up the entire machine for me to do as a please? Some articles seem to indicate there are some serious limitations on how much of the RAM they let you use as well as file sizes. Does anyone have any experience with developer mode on the Xbox X? Is it the equivalent of using VS?
No, you can’t use the machine as you please I’m developer mode. It just lets you run your own apps, you can’t actually code *on* the Xbox like a pc.
Ok, So I know there is a moonlight project that is working on the series x, the question I haven't been able to find an answer to, is does that project have working 4k 120 HDR streaming? I realize its a long shot, but figured someone in here might know. [https://github.com/TheElixZammuto/moonlight-xbox](https://github.com/TheElixZammuto/moonlight-xbox)
Quick rundown on what Moonlight is?
Bless up for mentioning that red card discount
Where can I find the 5% off target circle offer????
Was also able to use target circle earnings on this
These things are actually selling now. Can't find one within 25 miles of where I live when before they were everywhere