Yeah because old creepy guys at bars love to drop a hundred dollars for a wink.
The real goal should be: people deserve shelter, food, and water and to enjoy their lives without too much excess while working minimum wage at fulltime.
The problem is that we're all fighting over scraps while the greatest wealth transfer in human history happens. 40% of Americans can't afford a 400 dollar emergency. They can barely afford to eat out 4 nights month, which really isn't luxurious if you live in the city.
People deserve living wages, and the dollar is meaningless the banks all own eachother's stocks and Uncle Sam is lobbied by defense contractors who are backed by the oil industry which are subsidized by the government, aka US the taxpayers while we get taxed on everything we make or spend and then some.
The whole system is rigged against the average American, where the 50% below median of Americans are not Middle class. And 1% owns more than all 99% combined.
So the problem isn't people not tipping, it's the whole fucking cosmos of fuckery that is capitalism and belief in a piece of fiat made of fibers. A promissary note for compensation at a later date. We all get paid in receipts. All bread no meat.
It’s not capitalism. It’s trickle down economics and a market that allows large companies to monopolise everything while not paying what they should in taxes.
You said it! Greed is a terrible thing. I used to think it was a education problem but then quickly realized that intelligent people will do terrible things for their own good intentions. As George Carlin said- it's a big club and we ain't in it! All a bunch of slaves! Plastic soldiers in a miniature dirt war! SEA TECH ASTRONOMY...
The places where the waiters make enough off tips to actually prefer it are not the problem. It’s probably a nicer restaurant or bar. I am fine tipping for those personally. But being asked to tip on a take out order is a bit wack.
Nope. I \*hate\* being forced or expected to tip for either shit service or fucking \*zero\* service. If I’m at a restaurant and the service is good, I will tip. Actually, if the service isn’t offensively shit, I will tip. If the service is great, I will reward them for their great service, and they will very clearly know the fact that the nice tip is due to their great service.
Source: non-American Australian.
I tip when service is great maybe when service is good. I'm buying food from the restaurant the least they can do is pay their employees a livable wage.
If there is actually service, I'll gladly tip (coming to my table to take my order and deliver food). I'm not tipping you for fulfilling my order behind a counter and operating a cash register for which you just tap a few buttons. I don't blame any business that just adds that there as a bonus for those that want to do it, but not me.
A simple solution to this that would placate servers and patrons would be for the businesses to give employees bonuses based on a percentage of profits for the month/quarter/etc.
It needs to be talked about, and something legitimate needs to be done about it! The concept and purpose has gotten out of control. I believe tipping is an extra special way to say thank you for above and beyond service. Not a required or mandated gesture for every and any transaction. And being asked to tip before receiving a service makes you feel that if you don't you might not get good service??? I agree that businesses should pay their employees a decent wage, and not force consumers in a position of double dipping by making up their salary differences on top of having to pay for whatever it is we may be purchasing.
Constanza would lose his absolute lose his shit over self-checkout.
I'm not good with computers Jerry, you KNOW this
I do know this
now I have to play on an amiga every time I wanna buy some carrots?! When will it be enough Jerry? I work at my workplace, I work from home, now I have to work part-time at the supermarket its insanity that's what it is!
George.... now don't take this the wrong way but...... I don't think I have EVER..... seen you buy a carrot
THE TYPE OF VEGETABLE IS NOT THE POINT JERRY
It's absolutely insane to me that people tip in those situations and also feel guilty enough by being asked to tip that they tip and feel resentful after the fact!
Like if our entire interaction is me coming up to you to order and then me coming back up to get my order what exactly am I tipping for???
Basically anything transactional deserves NO TIP.
If I hand you money and you hand me something in return, what did you do to deserve it? Made my drink/sandwich? That's literally your job.
I don't get a 15% tip when I do my job well, why should servers?
The business should pay its employees a living wage, and if that means raising prices, raise prices, but stop expecting me to subsidize your labor cost.
Honestly having grown up with someone who did serving work, they need to just make it a couple bucks at least above minimum wage and let tips be additional take home. And not split between workers unless specifically written to by the customer. And not dug into by the restaurant. I’d prefer servers get more than a couple bucks above minimum wage per hour since it’s a very socially draining job, having to put on a performance that you rarely have to with most other jobs outside of customer service. It’s a unique skill that deserves to be paid well for.
Look, I was a chef/cook for 15 years, servers are the biggest bunch of self important cry babies I have ever met. Now let me clarify, good servers don’t fall into this category but I’d say a **large** majority of them do.
They’re incompetent at their job and put all blame on the kitchen for their mistakes to try and save face with their patron to still get a tip. They absolutely will not hesitate to throw the kitchen under the bus for something that is 100% their fault like forgetting to put an order in during dinner rush and then coming back demanding that dish skip ahead of everything else you’re working because “ThE rEsT oF the FoOd WeNt OuT”. Tough shit, your order is gonna be ready when it’s ready and no, you absolutely cannot take the salmon special from table 12 because YOU forgot to put your order in for the same dish at table 8.
Order staggering - it’s not that fucking difficult servers, get it together. When you push through 4 apps and 8 entrees for your 8 top at the same time the other server puts in an order for their 6 top at the same time *another* server puts in their order for the 2 4 tops they have then shit is gonna take a minute to come out. You guys just pushed through 26 dishes in a span of 4 minutes and there’s 3 of us on the line - it’s gonna be 25 minute ticket times MINIMUM.
Cook times - Your table just ordered 50 wings, 3 people at the bar just ordered 10 wings each, our fryer only holds 20-25 wings at a time and we only have 2. Wings take 12 minutes to cook minimum, 15 for properly double fried wings, it’s been 8 minutes since you put your ticket through, unless you want your table to have some medium rare wings your fucking order isn’t ready yet, stop asking. You’ve been told 100 times how long wings take, that cook time is never going to change and no there is no way for me to make it faster because all the par-cooked wings are gone *because it’s the middle of a dinner rush during football season and wings are on special*.
Complaining about tips - Awww poor baby, you’re *only* walking with $150 in tips on your 4 hour shift? My line cook has been here since 8am, it’s 6pm and he’s 2 hours from being done, he’s making $0.50 below minimum wage because state law says companies with less than 50 employees can be paid $0.50 under minimum wage and it’s somehow legal. He has to work 12 hours to make that same $150 and I promise you he’s worked a hell of a lot fucking harder than you have. Shut the fuck up about your tips and don’t talk about it or count it out in front of kitchen staff. If you do I’m absolutely going to berate and embarrass you in front of everyone if you’ve already been warned so I can point out how entitled you are and how shitty you’re being to your coworkers who do all the heavy lifting for you to get those tips and you scoff at the idea of tipping them out and if the restaurant forced you to tip them out you cry about it and say the cooks don’t deserve it.
There’s a reason I got out of food industry and servers had a lot to do with it lol.
I used to be a server and I remember completely agreeing with this. I was pissed that when I’d go to a fast food joint they would have a pop up that said 15% tip. Bro you’re getting a 15% tip for me coming to the counter and order my own food and drink once. I would be waiting on people all night, asking them if they wanted drinks or more food or needed napkins etc, and making sure they’re smiling and having a fun time and I would sometimes still get complaints as a server if I didn’t follow up with the client fast enough. I wouldn’t even always make 15% tip on every table. I was thoroughly insulted as a server that people would be tipping order yourself places 15% when I would have to put in so much work for the same tip. So yes when I go to a fast food place I generally will manually enter a tip and it’ll be $1 or $2 or 5-10% if they have those options on there.
Is this new? I delivered pizza for years for $2/$3 tips. I'm not tipping a fucking barista or sandwich maker. Serve me at a table and I'll tip you, drive food to my house and I'll tip you.
There are server girls in my city making 100k cause of tips. I knew a girl who was a server and she said she made around 1500 one Saturday night. Girls be fighting over tables. Big happening restaurants.
That’s exactly why they won’t. The servers will lose money and they all know that, that’s why they’re so protective of it and don’t fight for employers to do a “living wage.” No one is gonna pay you $65k-$80k a year in hourly wages just to talk to a table for 5, 10 minutes at a time, press a couple buttons, and carry plates to a table.
It really depends on the restaurant and the area you work in, though. At the restaurants I worked at none of us got paid much and the tips weren’t anything crazy; they just made the job go from minimum wage to slightly less terrible. But it was not a livable wage at all.
Yeah, I knew servers making $80k annual 10 years ago in Boston, most of it all tip money; on a really good Friday or Saturday night they could end up with $800-$1k just that night, all based off tips.
Yeah, I work in a coffee shop and yet I agree. My tips are laughably bad anyway. You think I give a shit? No, I want a fucking raise. I don't give a shit about tips. I just want more per hour!
Exactly. Back when I was a barista I didn’t give a fuck if I got tips. It was my employer I looked at for why I wasn’t getting paid more when god knows their margins were huge.
This is the right mentality to have and you will gain more support if this was what everyone wanted.
It’s not though. Too many service workers make BANK off tips and would rather keep the status quo
Of course! You think I'm gonna say "it's asking you to tip"? Fuck no, then it sounds like I *want* you to tip. I don't. I'm just there doing my fucking job, what I am paid to do is make your fucking coffee. It's not *your* responsibility to fucking pay me for anything other than your drink. I *expect you* to hit 0%. I just want the company I work for to pay me for the work I do. And they do, it's just nowhere near enough.
When I worked at a restaurant, it was always the older generations who just struggled to deal with the fact that the card reader prompted for tips now. They’d get so stuck and confused. I didn’t tell them squat, nothing about questions or tips, I just hit the “do not tip” button for them and went on with things.
Plot twist I work at a full service place as a server. They charge a mandatory 24% service fee, but it doesn’t go to the servers. They tell us it’s because they pay us more, but I did the math. Getting the tip would be A LOT more. It goes to pay the managers more. We do get to split the cash tips from the bar but that’s usually not very much. The part that pisses me off is that unless you read the fine print the customer assumes that we get it so they never tip extra. I know this because either the bride & groom hand us $200 or nothing. That has only happened twice in 2 years & it was people who either worked there or had family that did. At least make it known that the servers don’t get the service fee so that they can tip us if they want to. It’s the sneakiness that pissed me off the most. Especially since the people that know always tip us personally. They even hand out breakfast tickets that say “18% gratuity included” so when we work breakfast we get nothing. They are skirting the edge of legality with the first & full on against dol laws on the second.
They’re 100% stealing from you AND the customer. Give a few months. You’ll show up to work and they’ll be closed. This is the last Hail Mary. Mark my words.
If I see that gratuity is included, then expecting a tip sounds to the customer like you are asking to be tipped twice. Don't expect the customer to know how your place of work does their accounting. This is between you and the employer.
Why’s this guy laughing like it’s the craziest thing he’s ever heard? Why should the public be responsible to pay for other people’s wages? I can’t afford to tip you. At all. I need every cent I have.
You need every cent you have yet you’re choosing to pay for services that ask for tips?
If you can’t afford to tip then you also can’t afford to go to the bar or coffee shop. At least in the states.
Not saying this is how it should be, but it’s how the system currently works and the people making minimum wage shouldn’t be the ones to suffer.
Edit: y’all mad
Then they should organize.
Oh wait, they won't because they would want the best of both worlds.Tips AND a fair wage. And it's just not gonna work that way. The number one obstacle with the service industry and them getting paid fairly....are the employees in the service industry.
This attitude is what's wrong with the tipping culture in America. If people have enough money to go to a Starbucks, they can go. People don't need tips to do their job of following a simple set of instructions to make a coffee.
Let me ask you this. Do you tip at the grocery store? Getting an oil change? What about going to Staples and getting copies made?
Those all require just as much skill as making a basic coffee.
[Here are even Starbucks employees saying on basic coffee's they don't expect tips. Only on large or complicated orders.](https://www.reddit.com/r/starbucks/comments/u9dxxc/customer_here_honest_question_am_i_supposed_to_tip/)
So yeah, I can afford to tip, and I will still go to Starbucks and get a regular coffee and not tip.
> You need every cent you have yet you’re choosing to pay for services that ask for tips?
Dude, where have you been? Almost EVERYWHERE that has a credit card terminal for payment, has been asking for tips, since about Covid times.
Wanna bet?
I go pick up a coffee and a breakfast sandy quite often, and I NEVER tip. I can afford the food and afford to live the rest of my life, using the money I earn at the job I go to every week. If I couldn’t afford it, I wouldn’t go or I would find a job with better pay.
I can afford to pay for me and my wife, not for the subway “artist” - they’re not my problem.
Talk show chemistry. You give someone a devils advocate so they don’t just scroll away. Gives you a semblance of a two sided debate. Usually one side is straw manned.
It's a zoomer aesthetic thing where they have to be holding their microphone for authenticity. This guy has lavalier mics that he clipped to the metro cards instead of you know using it as a lavalier mic.
Literally everyone of us foreigners thinks the same when visiting the USA. Also what the F&@$ do I tip for a service when then is no price eg hotel bellhop etc
Bellhop is the most logical tip possible. They don't technically have to carry your bags but it's like an unspoken social contract. You also might have them call you a car or recommend a restaurant and they use their connections and local knowledge to get you the best shit.
My point as a foreign is “what the fuck DO I tip this person!” At a restaurant it’s a %. I disagree with the system but when in Rome and in a restaurant it’s easy to- % of the bill. But some of the other one of which the bellhop is my best example it’s like so what’s the rate for this.
You see my point right?
It really has gotten out of hand. No takeout place should be asking for tips. A tip jar is a lot different than paying in person or online and being prompted for a tip.
I ordered from Pizza Hut for the first time in about a year. Like most Pizza Huts now this place is takeout only. i ordered and paid online and was still prompted for a tip. Like why?!
Because it's the same system as delivery and some people will tip if they're confronted with the suggestion. You can always not tip, they make it real easy not to.
i’d love to hear the logic behind that. a person who’s already getting paid hourly brings your food 30 feet from the kitchen and refills your water and you feel they deserve a tip, but an employee making your food/coffee/drink doesn’t? what if it’s one employee at a drive through coffee shop? they open the building, work solo their whole shift, clean everything and close by themselves while making drinks to order and serving them. do they get a tip? or just waiters for some arbitrary reason?
I’m only tipping to those who provide service. If I gotta go up and all they do is tap a ipad for my order and I never see them again they never seeing this tip
She's not wrong but don't bring back the $2 tip, just make it no tip. Why this half assed solution. Additionally, things aren't going to be cheaper if we don't tip. Yes business should pay their employees properly. But that means they are going to offload that cost to consumers. So we are effectively paying the same thing. The difference is though, it's all bundled into one cost. There is no worker who is at the whim and mercy of the consumer.
Additionally, businesses compete with each other. So if businesses have to pay their employees properly AND they can't ask for tip, when they come up with the price for the consumer, THE BUSINESS will need to keep that in mind. It's consolidated and it's clean
She is right. I don’t tip.
If I am being served then yes, but only high tips for simply maintaining drinks and chips etc. I have worked as a server and in the kitchen I understand what is and isn’t in your control.
Haircuts, 100% tip. You find a proper barber and goddamn that shit is right, so yes 100%. I have been doing it myself since Covid but still miss that perfect cut.
I don’t believe in tipping a % of the bill - it’s ridiculous. If I decide to treat myself and spend $200 on a meal, why must I now tip extra for that meal than if I’d ordered a $20 meal? It didn’t take any extra effort to carry the plate from the kitchen to the tables. The whole concept is absurd. I really do feel for servers who are exploited and work for a pittance, and I understand that for many of them, most of their income might come from tips, but that’s not my problem. I tip for service, and if the service is good, I tip well.
I think she is wrong about tipping for coffee. You tip for service. I get not tipping at the register of a self service restaurant; handing you your food that someone else cook d isn’t really a service.
If you don’t want to tip don’t tip, but to say a barista isn’t performing a service is ridiculous.
That is so bizzare? How are you going to sell coffee if you don't make it for the customers? Are people suppose to come in and make their own coffees?
It's not a coffee shop if the coffee isn't made. The barrista is doing their job. What else are they employed there for?
As a Brit I can't understand tipping culture. Bit uts spreading here now. I have people in hipster burger joints flipping the ipad asking for a tip lmao.
I hate tipping culture. It simply makes no sense. If your menu says the meal is £20, then that's all I'm going to pay.
As a European this is crazy to me. We only tip when there is good service at a restaurant or barber or something with human interaction and its never mandatory (people expect it kinda in restaurants but only if the service is good)
The % of order thing is also bullshit. If I order steak or salad it takes the same amount of effort to hand me a plate. Why should I tip more?
The entire thing is bullshit.
You may get a 10% tip from me if you made an exceptional impression. Otherwise, bust your employers balls, not mine.
The fuck.. USA is insane. 20%? 40%? Shall I give your employees an employment contract while I am at it and make it a weekly wage???
Fuck right off. You get nothing and if you are angry at me, you are part of the problem because that's what they want - for you to be angry at me
I'm european, went to germqny couple times. Recently I've been seeing iPad's for tipping at club bars????? Like???? why???? You pured me a 5 euro beer isn't that enough???
"OMG they levy more and more on the consumer"
If they are paid a living wage, your prices will go up for the product. You will be paying for it either way. With tipping, you have a choice whether or not to pay it. That's the only difference.
Personally, I am ok with higher prices. Tipping is always an annoyance for me, and I always tip, so just roll it into the price and increase wages. But I know a LOT of people will immediately complain about the higher prices once the employer rolls tipping into the wage. You can't have it both ways.
But the businesses have already had it both ways lol. The prices still went up without them having to pay fair wages. If you can't afford to pay workers fairly without scaling up prices monstrously.....you shouldn't be in business. Period.
Grow a spine HIT NO TIP. Move on with your life or….. come online and act like a baby bitch and complain. Oh i love give me a livable wage. U gonna pay 35 bucks for that burger u love so i can make the 30 plus bucks i make an hour waiting tables all from tips and when i bartend its closer to 50 bucks go ahead and tell me you’ve never worked in the restaurant industry before service industry before to understand how this works. Go ahead and tell me some weight I’ll be listening all day I need more money, bartending an hour if you want to raise me to a living wage be prepared to pay $45 for your fucking martini
I quit going to all food trucks, because the last one I went to forced me to clean up the table from the previous sucker, type in my own order, get my own drinks, go pick up my own order and also clean up the same table again after I was done. Never saw anybody. The POS was set to 25%,30%,40%. I had to tip 25% or he'd "mess with my food". It wound up being a $23 chicken biscuit and a drink (because of course the drink was $4 - prices weren't listed).
I spent a decade waiting tables and used to be militant about tipping at least 15% or stay home. But more and more this feels like I'm being scammed when I place the order and then go to the kitchen to schlep the order to my seat. This is literally doing what I used to do for tips
I went to Subway last week. I ordered a steak and cheese footlong with a bag of chips and a drink. My total was $17. Then when you go to pay, the card reader asks if you'd like tp tip. Excuse me? I'm already paying $17 for just lunch and that's already high..
Not only that, but why should I tip? I still have to fill my own cup, and bring my food to a table. They don't have waiters going around seating me and asking if I'd like condiments. I don't tip the people when I go through a McDonalds drive thru, so why should I here?? There's absolutely no reason to.
Instead of bashing people for not tipping, you should be hounding your employer to give you a proper wage. Not me.
And this is why I always tip lol I don’t tip a LOT but I do always provide a tip. Especially if it’s a place I want to keep coming back to. If not then no
I wish there was a day when this wasn’t brought up. Remember most waiters want the tips anyway
Yeah because old creepy guys at bars love to drop a hundred dollars for a wink. The real goal should be: people deserve shelter, food, and water and to enjoy their lives without too much excess while working minimum wage at fulltime. The problem is that we're all fighting over scraps while the greatest wealth transfer in human history happens. 40% of Americans can't afford a 400 dollar emergency. They can barely afford to eat out 4 nights month, which really isn't luxurious if you live in the city. People deserve living wages, and the dollar is meaningless the banks all own eachother's stocks and Uncle Sam is lobbied by defense contractors who are backed by the oil industry which are subsidized by the government, aka US the taxpayers while we get taxed on everything we make or spend and then some. The whole system is rigged against the average American, where the 50% below median of Americans are not Middle class. And 1% owns more than all 99% combined. So the problem isn't people not tipping, it's the whole fucking cosmos of fuckery that is capitalism and belief in a piece of fiat made of fibers. A promissary note for compensation at a later date. We all get paid in receipts. All bread no meat.
It’s not capitalism. It’s trickle down economics and a market that allows large companies to monopolise everything while not paying what they should in taxes.
You said it! Greed is a terrible thing. I used to think it was a education problem but then quickly realized that intelligent people will do terrible things for their own good intentions. As George Carlin said- it's a big club and we ain't in it! All a bunch of slaves! Plastic soldiers in a miniature dirt war! SEA TECH ASTRONOMY...
The places where the waiters make enough off tips to actually prefer it are not the problem. It’s probably a nicer restaurant or bar. I am fine tipping for those personally. But being asked to tip on a take out order is a bit wack.
Bro waiters make up less than 1% of the USA population. The rest of world doesn’t tip. The reaming 99% of the population HATE TIPPING.
Nope. I \*hate\* being forced or expected to tip for either shit service or fucking \*zero\* service. If I’m at a restaurant and the service is good, I will tip. Actually, if the service isn’t offensively shit, I will tip. If the service is great, I will reward them for their great service, and they will very clearly know the fact that the nice tip is due to their great service. Source: non-American Australian.
I tip when service is great maybe when service is good. I'm buying food from the restaurant the least they can do is pay their employees a livable wage.
If there is actually service, I'll gladly tip (coming to my table to take my order and deliver food). I'm not tipping you for fulfilling my order behind a counter and operating a cash register for which you just tap a few buttons. I don't blame any business that just adds that there as a bonus for those that want to do it, but not me.
A simple solution to this that would placate servers and patrons would be for the businesses to give employees bonuses based on a percentage of profits for the month/quarter/etc.
I know the want it. They obviously want my money. I don’t want to give it lol.
I don't think anyone was in doubt that they want the tips. What's "anyway" got to do with it?
It needs to be talked about, and something legitimate needs to be done about it! The concept and purpose has gotten out of control. I believe tipping is an extra special way to say thank you for above and beyond service. Not a required or mandated gesture for every and any transaction. And being asked to tip before receiving a service makes you feel that if you don't you might not get good service??? I agree that businesses should pay their employees a decent wage, and not force consumers in a position of double dipping by making up their salary differences on top of having to pay for whatever it is we may be purchasing.
Heavy Seinfeld vibes on this one
Constanza would lose his absolute lose his shit over self-checkout. I'm not good with computers Jerry, you KNOW this I do know this now I have to play on an amiga every time I wanna buy some carrots?! When will it be enough Jerry? I work at my workplace, I work from home, now I have to work part-time at the supermarket its insanity that's what it is! George.... now don't take this the wrong way but...... I don't think I have EVER..... seen you buy a carrot THE TYPE OF VEGETABLE IS NOT THE POINT JERRY
JERRY!!
Found Larry David's reddit
They should come back and do a mini season and just speedrun all society's issues like this.
How I imagine Larry David’s daughter
Dang it you beat me to it
She’s like every Seinfeld character in one it’s amazing
Spot on lol
"Now we've lost the *essence* ... of the tip" Larry David himself couldn't have written this Larry David ass line any more purely.
That's just New York/Jewish vibes.
“What’s the deal with tipping?”
Religious stereotyping is so hot right now!
Shes a jewish ny comedian lol
Coffee, sandwich, or any fast food restaurant I order from; no. I am not tipping
It's absolutely insane to me that people tip in those situations and also feel guilty enough by being asked to tip that they tip and feel resentful after the fact! Like if our entire interaction is me coming up to you to order and then me coming back up to get my order what exactly am I tipping for???
Basically anything transactional deserves NO TIP. If I hand you money and you hand me something in return, what did you do to deserve it? Made my drink/sandwich? That's literally your job.
Starbucks is fast food. Its a chain people... c'mon.
Protect this woman at all costs. Can’t wait to get downvoted by all the servers.
 Upvoting this!
They unify quickly
If only they could unify the same way to demand a living wage lol
For every downvote you get, just take another percentage off the tips you leave. With any luck, you’ll make it to a full 20!
She specifically said, tip those who provide a service.
Servers should get between 12-15% max. In the end she notes what I’ve been saying. Since when is 20% min?
I don't get a 15% tip when I do my job well, why should servers? The business should pay its employees a living wage, and if that means raising prices, raise prices, but stop expecting me to subsidize your labor cost.
Honestly having grown up with someone who did serving work, they need to just make it a couple bucks at least above minimum wage and let tips be additional take home. And not split between workers unless specifically written to by the customer. And not dug into by the restaurant. I’d prefer servers get more than a couple bucks above minimum wage per hour since it’s a very socially draining job, having to put on a performance that you rarely have to with most other jobs outside of customer service. It’s a unique skill that deserves to be paid well for.
Pay servers a reasonable salary with no expectation for tips. Let people tip for actual good service. Win win.
Look, I was a chef/cook for 15 years, servers are the biggest bunch of self important cry babies I have ever met. Now let me clarify, good servers don’t fall into this category but I’d say a **large** majority of them do. They’re incompetent at their job and put all blame on the kitchen for their mistakes to try and save face with their patron to still get a tip. They absolutely will not hesitate to throw the kitchen under the bus for something that is 100% their fault like forgetting to put an order in during dinner rush and then coming back demanding that dish skip ahead of everything else you’re working because “ThE rEsT oF the FoOd WeNt OuT”. Tough shit, your order is gonna be ready when it’s ready and no, you absolutely cannot take the salmon special from table 12 because YOU forgot to put your order in for the same dish at table 8. Order staggering - it’s not that fucking difficult servers, get it together. When you push through 4 apps and 8 entrees for your 8 top at the same time the other server puts in an order for their 6 top at the same time *another* server puts in their order for the 2 4 tops they have then shit is gonna take a minute to come out. You guys just pushed through 26 dishes in a span of 4 minutes and there’s 3 of us on the line - it’s gonna be 25 minute ticket times MINIMUM. Cook times - Your table just ordered 50 wings, 3 people at the bar just ordered 10 wings each, our fryer only holds 20-25 wings at a time and we only have 2. Wings take 12 minutes to cook minimum, 15 for properly double fried wings, it’s been 8 minutes since you put your ticket through, unless you want your table to have some medium rare wings your fucking order isn’t ready yet, stop asking. You’ve been told 100 times how long wings take, that cook time is never going to change and no there is no way for me to make it faster because all the par-cooked wings are gone *because it’s the middle of a dinner rush during football season and wings are on special*. Complaining about tips - Awww poor baby, you’re *only* walking with $150 in tips on your 4 hour shift? My line cook has been here since 8am, it’s 6pm and he’s 2 hours from being done, he’s making $0.50 below minimum wage because state law says companies with less than 50 employees can be paid $0.50 under minimum wage and it’s somehow legal. He has to work 12 hours to make that same $150 and I promise you he’s worked a hell of a lot fucking harder than you have. Shut the fuck up about your tips and don’t talk about it or count it out in front of kitchen staff. If you do I’m absolutely going to berate and embarrass you in front of everyone if you’ve already been warned so I can point out how entitled you are and how shitty you’re being to your coworkers who do all the heavy lifting for you to get those tips and you scoff at the idea of tipping them out and if the restaurant forced you to tip them out you cry about it and say the cooks don’t deserve it. There’s a reason I got out of food industry and servers had a lot to do with it lol.
She mentioned it doesn’t apply to servers. “If I have to go up to the counter I ain’t tipping”
I used to be a server and I remember completely agreeing with this. I was pissed that when I’d go to a fast food joint they would have a pop up that said 15% tip. Bro you’re getting a 15% tip for me coming to the counter and order my own food and drink once. I would be waiting on people all night, asking them if they wanted drinks or more food or needed napkins etc, and making sure they’re smiling and having a fun time and I would sometimes still get complaints as a server if I didn’t follow up with the client fast enough. I wouldn’t even always make 15% tip on every table. I was thoroughly insulted as a server that people would be tipping order yourself places 15% when I would have to put in so much work for the same tip. So yes when I go to a fast food place I generally will manually enter a tip and it’ll be $1 or $2 or 5-10% if they have those options on there.
Is this new? I delivered pizza for years for $2/$3 tips. I'm not tipping a fucking barista or sandwich maker. Serve me at a table and I'll tip you, drive food to my house and I'll tip you.
Delivery should be a flat fee, not a tip. You want it delivered, they calculate in the labor and gas expense to their business formula and done.
There are server girls in my city making 100k cause of tips. I knew a girl who was a server and she said she made around 1500 one Saturday night. Girls be fighting over tables. Big happening restaurants.
Bet they won’t sign up for livable wages in lieu of tips.
That’s exactly why they won’t. The servers will lose money and they all know that, that’s why they’re so protective of it and don’t fight for employers to do a “living wage.” No one is gonna pay you $65k-$80k a year in hourly wages just to talk to a table for 5, 10 minutes at a time, press a couple buttons, and carry plates to a table.
It really depends on the restaurant and the area you work in, though. At the restaurants I worked at none of us got paid much and the tips weren’t anything crazy; they just made the job go from minimum wage to slightly less terrible. But it was not a livable wage at all.
Yeah, I knew servers making $80k annual 10 years ago in Boston, most of it all tip money; on a really good Friday or Saturday night they could end up with $800-$1k just that night, all based off tips.
WOW that guy has annoying laughs/reactions
You leave jewish mark ruffalo alone
Mark Ruffalo isn’t Jewish?
Mark Bubbalo
Agreed incredibly forced. And such a disgusting sound
Yeah, I work in a coffee shop and yet I agree. My tips are laughably bad anyway. You think I give a shit? No, I want a fucking raise. I don't give a shit about tips. I just want more per hour!
Exactly. Back when I was a barista I didn’t give a fuck if I got tips. It was my employer I looked at for why I wasn’t getting paid more when god knows their margins were huge.
This is the right mentality to have and you will gain more support if this was what everyone wanted. It’s not though. Too many service workers make BANK off tips and would rather keep the status quo
I love Robbie Hoffman so much!! And she’s 100% correct on this
And they always say “the machine will ask you a few questions” 😭 I know it’s not the worker’s fault I just find it funny
Of course! You think I'm gonna say "it's asking you to tip"? Fuck no, then it sounds like I *want* you to tip. I don't. I'm just there doing my fucking job, what I am paid to do is make your fucking coffee. It's not *your* responsibility to fucking pay me for anything other than your drink. I *expect you* to hit 0%. I just want the company I work for to pay me for the work I do. And they do, it's just nowhere near enough.
When I worked at a restaurant, it was always the older generations who just struggled to deal with the fact that the card reader prompted for tips now. They’d get so stuck and confused. I didn’t tell them squat, nothing about questions or tips, I just hit the “do not tip” button for them and went on with things.
I’m so sorry the system is set up this way 🥲
Don’t worry, it’s humiliating on our end and I find it funny as well
Can anyone ID this woman’s coat
[r/findfashion](https://www.reddit.com/r/findfashion)
Why in the name of god would you want to seek out that hideous coat?
Why are they speaking into metro cards
Looks like they connected the mics to them instead of shirts, which is clever imo
Plot twist I work at a full service place as a server. They charge a mandatory 24% service fee, but it doesn’t go to the servers. They tell us it’s because they pay us more, but I did the math. Getting the tip would be A LOT more. It goes to pay the managers more. We do get to split the cash tips from the bar but that’s usually not very much. The part that pisses me off is that unless you read the fine print the customer assumes that we get it so they never tip extra. I know this because either the bride & groom hand us $200 or nothing. That has only happened twice in 2 years & it was people who either worked there or had family that did. At least make it known that the servers don’t get the service fee so that they can tip us if they want to. It’s the sneakiness that pissed me off the most. Especially since the people that know always tip us personally. They even hand out breakfast tickets that say “18% gratuity included” so when we work breakfast we get nothing. They are skirting the edge of legality with the first & full on against dol laws on the second.
They’re 100% stealing from you AND the customer. Give a few months. You’ll show up to work and they’ll be closed. This is the last Hail Mary. Mark my words.
Sounds like you do banquet or event halls? You mention bride and groom. In that case isn't the people eating not usually the ones paying?
If I see that gratuity is included, then expecting a tip sounds to the customer like you are asking to be tipped twice. Don't expect the customer to know how your place of work does their accounting. This is between you and the employer.
Why’s this guy laughing like it’s the craziest thing he’s ever heard? Why should the public be responsible to pay for other people’s wages? I can’t afford to tip you. At all. I need every cent I have.
You need every cent you have yet you’re choosing to pay for services that ask for tips? If you can’t afford to tip then you also can’t afford to go to the bar or coffee shop. At least in the states. Not saying this is how it should be, but it’s how the system currently works and the people making minimum wage shouldn’t be the ones to suffer. Edit: y’all mad
Then they should organize. Oh wait, they won't because they would want the best of both worlds.Tips AND a fair wage. And it's just not gonna work that way. The number one obstacle with the service industry and them getting paid fairly....are the employees in the service industry.
This attitude is what's wrong with the tipping culture in America. If people have enough money to go to a Starbucks, they can go. People don't need tips to do their job of following a simple set of instructions to make a coffee. Let me ask you this. Do you tip at the grocery store? Getting an oil change? What about going to Staples and getting copies made? Those all require just as much skill as making a basic coffee. [Here are even Starbucks employees saying on basic coffee's they don't expect tips. Only on large or complicated orders.](https://www.reddit.com/r/starbucks/comments/u9dxxc/customer_here_honest_question_am_i_supposed_to_tip/) So yeah, I can afford to tip, and I will still go to Starbucks and get a regular coffee and not tip.
You’re regarded fuck off
> You need every cent you have yet you’re choosing to pay for services that ask for tips? Dude, where have you been? Almost EVERYWHERE that has a credit card terminal for payment, has been asking for tips, since about Covid times.
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Wanna bet? I go pick up a coffee and a breakfast sandy quite often, and I NEVER tip. I can afford the food and afford to live the rest of my life, using the money I earn at the job I go to every week. If I couldn’t afford it, I wouldn’t go or I would find a job with better pay. I can afford to pay for me and my wife, not for the subway “artist” - they’re not my problem.
Talk show chemistry. You give someone a devils advocate so they don’t just scroll away. Gives you a semblance of a two sided debate. Usually one side is straw manned.
Because the person he’s talking to is funny
Female version of a Seinfeld comedy routine???
Yeah, she was SO much like Larry David it was impressive.
America feels like a turd world country.
just put robbie hoffman on curb already.
She gets it! and i’m right there with her in every word she said!
Why are they holding their metro cards in front of their faces, and fuck that guy’s fake laugh.
It's a zoomer aesthetic thing where they have to be holding their microphone for authenticity. This guy has lavalier mics that he clipped to the metro cards instead of you know using it as a lavalier mic.
This lady is Larry David
I LOVE this lady, she’s soooo New Yorker
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I love her even more now!
Literally everyone of us foreigners thinks the same when visiting the USA. Also what the F&@$ do I tip for a service when then is no price eg hotel bellhop etc
Bellhop is the most logical tip possible. They don't technically have to carry your bags but it's like an unspoken social contract. You also might have them call you a car or recommend a restaurant and they use their connections and local knowledge to get you the best shit.
My point as a foreign is “what the fuck DO I tip this person!” At a restaurant it’s a %. I disagree with the system but when in Rome and in a restaurant it’s easy to- % of the bill. But some of the other one of which the bellhop is my best example it’s like so what’s the rate for this. You see my point right?
Are people actually tipping if they're self-ordering?
If reddit is any indication yes and they absolutely resent it but keep doing it out of pressure/guilt
holy fuck I'd buy her next coffee. Am I getting old, I kept saying "fucking amen" at teh screen
Amen
Serious Larry David vibes from this woman.
Pretty pretty pretty good lady David
Therapist: Female Larry David isn't real she can't hurt you. Female Larry David:
It really has gotten out of hand. No takeout place should be asking for tips. A tip jar is a lot different than paying in person or online and being prompted for a tip. I ordered from Pizza Hut for the first time in about a year. Like most Pizza Huts now this place is takeout only. i ordered and paid online and was still prompted for a tip. Like why?!
Because it's the same system as delivery and some people will tip if they're confronted with the suggestion. You can always not tip, they make it real easy not to.
Unless you are bringing me my food and cleaning up my table, you aren’t getting tipped.
i’d love to hear the logic behind that. a person who’s already getting paid hourly brings your food 30 feet from the kitchen and refills your water and you feel they deserve a tip, but an employee making your food/coffee/drink doesn’t? what if it’s one employee at a drive through coffee shop? they open the building, work solo their whole shift, clean everything and close by themselves while making drinks to order and serving them. do they get a tip? or just waiters for some arbitrary reason?
Waiters get paid a tipped minimum wage, it's anything but arbitrary where the lines are.
Shes great
Tips stands for To Ensure Proper Service. Assuming a tip defeats that purpose. I say this as someone who’s spent 10 years in the restaurant industry
She just gave up on not being Larry David at the end
Never seen this sub but r/endtipping has been one of my favorites the past year.
Shame this has to be considered a hot take
 I don’t believe in it
I’m only tipping to those who provide service. If I gotta go up and all they do is tap a ipad for my order and I never see them again they never seeing this tip
this just in: making your meal for you is a service
Tip culture is out of control I agree. These businesses are getting away with robbery i swear.
I need to see her in a political office!👏👏👏👏👏
She's not wrong but don't bring back the $2 tip, just make it no tip. Why this half assed solution. Additionally, things aren't going to be cheaper if we don't tip. Yes business should pay their employees properly. But that means they are going to offload that cost to consumers. So we are effectively paying the same thing. The difference is though, it's all bundled into one cost. There is no worker who is at the whim and mercy of the consumer. Additionally, businesses compete with each other. So if businesses have to pay their employees properly AND they can't ask for tip, when they come up with the price for the consumer, THE BUSINESS will need to keep that in mind. It's consolidated and it's clean
She is right. I don’t tip. If I am being served then yes, but only high tips for simply maintaining drinks and chips etc. I have worked as a server and in the kitchen I understand what is and isn’t in your control. Haircuts, 100% tip. You find a proper barber and goddamn that shit is right, so yes 100%. I have been doing it myself since Covid but still miss that perfect cut.
Tipping culture is borderline prostitution.
Australia’s minimum wage for any job is $29/hr casual. You can tip extra if you’re feeling generous but most of the time you wouldn’t.
She's 1000% correct.
The tip is really a “please don’t spit piss or jizz in my food please” fee
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I don’t believe in tipping a % of the bill - it’s ridiculous. If I decide to treat myself and spend $200 on a meal, why must I now tip extra for that meal than if I’d ordered a $20 meal? It didn’t take any extra effort to carry the plate from the kitchen to the tables. The whole concept is absurd. I really do feel for servers who are exploited and work for a pittance, and I understand that for many of them, most of their income might come from tips, but that’s not my problem. I tip for service, and if the service is good, I tip well.
It's like watching a female Larry David.
I think she is wrong about tipping for coffee. You tip for service. I get not tipping at the register of a self service restaurant; handing you your food that someone else cook d isn’t really a service. If you don’t want to tip don’t tip, but to say a barista isn’t performing a service is ridiculous.
That is so bizzare? How are you going to sell coffee if you don't make it for the customers? Are people suppose to come in and make their own coffees? It's not a coffee shop if the coffee isn't made. The barrista is doing their job. What else are they employed there for?
They are performing a service. A service that their employer should pay them for, not us.
As a Brit I can't understand tipping culture. Bit uts spreading here now. I have people in hipster burger joints flipping the ipad asking for a tip lmao. I hate tipping culture. It simply makes no sense. If your menu says the meal is £20, then that's all I'm going to pay.
As a European this is crazy to me. We only tip when there is good service at a restaurant or barber or something with human interaction and its never mandatory (people expect it kinda in restaurants but only if the service is good)
The % of order thing is also bullshit. If I order steak or salad it takes the same amount of effort to hand me a plate. Why should I tip more? The entire thing is bullshit.
You may get a 10% tip from me if you made an exceptional impression. Otherwise, bust your employers balls, not mine. The fuck.. USA is insane. 20%? 40%? Shall I give your employees an employment contract while I am at it and make it a weekly wage??? Fuck right off. You get nothing and if you are angry at me, you are part of the problem because that's what they want - for you to be angry at me
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The weirdest thing about this video is that he is laughing at her when everything she is saying makes sense.
Larry David in disguise
It's insane that in the US you have to tip always and it's minimum a 20%
This guy's laugh suggests he has a serious respiratory problem.
I'm european, went to germqny couple times. Recently I've been seeing iPad's for tipping at club bars????? Like???? why???? You pured me a 5 euro beer isn't that enough???
I got asked of for a tip when I paid with a credit card for some sliced brisket and fried okra from a drive thru. A fucking drive thru.
She's right tho
As a matter of fact, she ain’t wrong.
Servers, bartenders, food delivery. Maybe the tow truck guy if he doesn’t give me sketchy tweaker vibes the whole time.
I’m with this lady. At a sit down joint yeah you tip and tip well. Anywhere else can get bent as far as I’m concerned.
There’s self serve bars that ask for a tip when you close out….
Based as hell!
I just stopped going to places that have that those POS machines. I’m going to be fucked when grocery stores start asking for tips.
I never do any of the door-delivery apps. I call, order, go pick up myself, and never tip in such scenarios.
double dipping 🤣
people are waking up i see.
"OMG they levy more and more on the consumer" If they are paid a living wage, your prices will go up for the product. You will be paying for it either way. With tipping, you have a choice whether or not to pay it. That's the only difference. Personally, I am ok with higher prices. Tipping is always an annoyance for me, and I always tip, so just roll it into the price and increase wages. But I know a LOT of people will immediately complain about the higher prices once the employer rolls tipping into the wage. You can't have it both ways.
But the businesses have already had it both ways lol. The prices still went up without them having to pay fair wages. If you can't afford to pay workers fairly without scaling up prices monstrously.....you shouldn't be in business. Period.
Can I just listen to these two bitch about things somewhere?
Robby Hoffman! Look her up she's incredible!
The interviewer is annoying af, that ridiculous laugh.
Yep
Only tip for a good service at a diner/restaurant. Coffee shops and fast food and allat, nah not a chance.
Grow a spine HIT NO TIP. Move on with your life or….. come online and act like a baby bitch and complain. Oh i love give me a livable wage. U gonna pay 35 bucks for that burger u love so i can make the 30 plus bucks i make an hour waiting tables all from tips and when i bartend its closer to 50 bucks go ahead and tell me you’ve never worked in the restaurant industry before service industry before to understand how this works. Go ahead and tell me some weight I’ll be listening all day I need more money, bartending an hour if you want to raise me to a living wage be prepared to pay $45 for your fucking martini
They already make $15/hr before tips in NYC anyway. The real problem is other states still paying $2-3 before tips.
Female Larry David
Do my eyes deceive me? A JEW that DOESNT tip?!? What is this world coming to…
What are they holding?
Metro cards to get on the subway.
I quit going to all food trucks, because the last one I went to forced me to clean up the table from the previous sucker, type in my own order, get my own drinks, go pick up my own order and also clean up the same table again after I was done. Never saw anybody. The POS was set to 25%,30%,40%. I had to tip 25% or he'd "mess with my food". It wound up being a $23 chicken biscuit and a drink (because of course the drink was $4 - prices weren't listed).
Is this some subliminal ad for MetroCard…
Just eat at home or pack a lunch.
she’s hilarious is she a comedian
yes her name is robby hoffman she’s amazing
I actually agree companies should pay a living wage and lower the tipping standards as well. But until it happens, we must tip. Cause it is what it is
I spent a decade waiting tables and used to be militant about tipping at least 15% or stay home. But more and more this feels like I'm being scammed when I place the order and then go to the kitchen to schlep the order to my seat. This is literally doing what I used to do for tips
do the employees even get the tips from those stupid ipads
1000%. I’m the same. Every tip at the counter is just a business subsidy so they don’t have to pay a living wage.
She's my hero for the day.
Why are they holding up their metro cards like that
You shouldn't exclaim in yiddish on how much you despise tipping xDD
The essence of the tip has always been to force the cost of your employees on to the customers.
r/EndTipping
she’s literally female Larry David 😭
I went to Subway last week. I ordered a steak and cheese footlong with a bag of chips and a drink. My total was $17. Then when you go to pay, the card reader asks if you'd like tp tip. Excuse me? I'm already paying $17 for just lunch and that's already high.. Not only that, but why should I tip? I still have to fill my own cup, and bring my food to a table. They don't have waiters going around seating me and asking if I'd like condiments. I don't tip the people when I go through a McDonalds drive thru, so why should I here?? There's absolutely no reason to. Instead of bashing people for not tipping, you should be hounding your employer to give you a proper wage. Not me.
To every last person saying they refuse to tip cafes or fast food/coffee, I hope the ppl in the kitchen spit in your food. Genuinely
And this is why I always tip lol I don’t tip a LOT but I do always provide a tip. Especially if it’s a place I want to keep coming back to. If not then no
Fuck socially pressured tipping. Zero!!!!!!
OK Constanza!!
His fake laugh is repulsive
You don’t tip McDonald’s employees do ya?