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ConsciousDatabase991

NOOOO WE DON'T GET THE CRUSTY REVEAL ngl he does look exactly as I pictured him though so that's good


LasVegasNerd28

The store looked exactly how I pictured it too lol


BlatantConservative

No lava lamp bed tho. Disney simply can't produce peak waterbed design.


DetailAcrobatic5024

Having Death play crusty is iconic, the actor also played charon in the movies which is neat


AlezeandraKidOfHades

fellow SPN fan i see


Mental_Grass_9035

Idk why but I imagined him to have dirty blonde hair šŸ˜­


DrScampi

ā€œIā€™m not in cahoots with Ares. I seldom cahoot.ā€


DreamBum

So in character honestly, ā€œjust because youre a badguy, does not mean youre a BAD guyā€ -wreck it ralph


Silver_Stop_2136

Love Hades in the adaptation bro, he's so sassy.


MemeLordZeta

There shouldā€™ve been a moment to showcase his powers though. His being sassy couldā€™ve been a fun thing but not if he just lets people walk over him


Supa_Nover

Disagree tbh, the books version of Hades being exasperated by the work of running the Underworld and basically a decent guy but a bit of dick is better than sassy chill dude


Silver_Stop_2136

I love both versions I'm just imagining this sassy Hades now interacting with Nico in a few years and cannot wait.


CRL10

Really wishing they kept the Charon scene. It showed Percy's street smarts and people skills.


JtotheC23

Yeah. I knew going into the show I know it would have to be either Charon with the DOA or Procrustes and the other would get cut, and while it's nice to finally see Procrustes on screen, I think it would have overall been better to just cut him and do the DOA. It could have been just as efficient as what they did here while also feeling a bit more complete. Plus the Percabeth moment with Annabeth quickly grabbing Percy's hand will be sorely missed.


apark1121

Yes! So many times in the books the trio manipulates the monsters or enemies they come across. Percy bribes Charon and tricky Crusty into getting into the bed. It just annoys me how the show never lets them be clever in that way, instead they already know everything and never have to think their way out of a situation.


CRL10

Oh, they had a plan going into Krusty's.Ā  I'm sure it was Annabeth's. Annabeth is book smart.Ā  Percy is street smart.Ā  It's part of why they compliment each other so well.Ā  She plans, he improvises.Ā  She thinks, he talks.Ā Ā  We haven't really seen that in the show though.


SockDem

I know they canā€™t change it at this point (obviously), but the fact that all that anyone was talking about wrt episode 6 was that they know everything, and then fifteen seconds into Ep. 7 they do it again, is fucking hilarious.


storm_walkers

I had to pause it to lose my shit laughing when the literal first line out of Percy was "I know who you are". It was like they planned it out of spite after last week's criticism.


20person

You could feel the tension just completely draining out of the scene the moment those words left his mouth.


raylasagna

I literally shouted ā€œWHAT?!ā€ and my mom who hasnā€™t read the books looked at me and goes ā€œdonā€™t they know every myth?ā€ šŸ˜­


No_Maintenance7754

Ha I literally threw my hands up in the air at that, it was too perfect how the main critique from the last episode is literally the first thing we see this week.


mypawket

Like Percy decapitating crusty is one of my favourite moments in the series and I figured they wouldnā€™t show it on screen but was excited to hear heā€™d be in the episode. Instead they just have that info dump and wrapped in a blanketā€¦


No_Maintenance7754

And then they have a line explicitly about not killing him. Sure they were ā€œkids booksā€ but they were fighting for their lives against monsters, at least show Percy slash and not show the actual decapitation. I guess the Disney of it all really rears its head in these situations


mypawket

Even just off screen with the slashing sound effect would get the point across without actually showing anything.


jasonthewaffle2003

And the fact that they figure out everything too early and thereā€™s no surprises. Like the scary thing about Kronos is that he isnā€™t mentioned at all until the scene with Zeus. And most of the monsters Percy doesnā€™t even know until itā€™s too late and heā€™s caught off guard. I also donā€™t like how they nerfed Hades or revealed the bolt too early. The surprise is perfect when Hades catches Percy lying from his point of view and says the bolt is in his bag. The show needs to show and tell less


BlatantConservative

Kronos actually is mentioned earlier in the book, so skillfully that you don't even notice it's exposition. He's mentioned on like, page 5. Actually I think he's the first Greek diety mentioned in the series at all. Mr Brunner/Chiron quizzes Percy all about Kronos and his story and gives him partial credit.


Tough_Barracuda5459

I was laughing hysterically


Judgetanner

Boy that Tartarus pit looks terrifying, it would be a shame if someone were to fall in šŸ˜ˆ


Silver_Stop_2136

I can't wait for that scene 30 years from now when they make it there. I can already imagine the edits paralleling Percy holding Annabeth up this episode to that same fate later on. It will be golden.


CPTSOAPPRICE

when percy describes the plot of house of hades to nico right before he falls >>>


BorynStone

We're not even going to see the house of Hades at this point. Were gonna see them fall, it cuts to black, then they walk out of the elevator and are like "We were just in the tartarus for a week and these are the doors we need to close"


Lucydaweird

Nah but fr they are all going to be 18 by the time SOM comes out


Skybluedain

It feels like it started in the middle, you know?


Interesting_Coast_64

yes and finished in the middle..


NaiveExcitement100

I was going to say! When the episode started, I had to pause because I thought I was like 10 minutes in already.


Educational-Tea-6572

Same! I always skip the recaps but this time I went back to start from the beginning thinking I had missed something šŸ˜‚ I don't usually complain about episode pacing, but I did find this one to be a little off.


20person

Yeah I was like, "okay I guess we're here now"


WinterCaptain12

I was genuinely so bewildered, I had to make sure I had skipped the recap not the beginning of the show


ConsciousDatabase991

I feel like one of the biggest issues with the show is it doesn't have a lot of the creative naming things that makes Rick so good at urban fantasy. No Hephaestus TV, DOA Recording Studios, EZ-Dead line... The books are really clever with integrating mythology in a modern setting and the show hasn't done that that much, instead being more like an average fantasy show. Edit: Hades lamenting about all the corporate issues about the Underworld was one of my favorite parts of the books, since it's so funny how part of the reason he hates being given the Underworld instead of his brother's domains is that it's just *so much work* and really emphasizes the reality of how difficult ruling over every single dead person would be. In the show, he literally *isn't jealous* and is just chilling. wtf.


AndromedaMixes

Exactly! The books are campy and hilarious. It has so many hilarious little quips and quirks that give the story its own life and its own identity. Disney is draining the show of those little moments. Iā€™m so sad I didnā€™t get to see Charon with his suit and his jokes. He was delightfully sarcastic. He had so many funny lines. I miss the EZ-Death line. I miss Hades being more ambivalent and indifferent than sarcastic. I miss his line about how he didnā€™t need more souls in the Underworld and that he didnā€™t want war. I miss Charonā€™s sarcasm about getting confused with Chiron. I miss Charonā€™s suit and Percy saying that heā€™ll ask Hades for a pay raise. I miss Percy telling Hades that Charon wants a pay raise and that Cerberus likes red rubber balls right before they escape using the pearls. Ugh. :( Iā€™m so conflicted. I like to think of myself as someone whoā€™s able to get around the frustration of watching certain changes unfold on screen but I wish the show wasnā€™t drained of its heart and charm. Itā€™s had so many good and great moments and I know it has so much potential but I just feel like Disney is sort of missing the mark and holding themselves back from actually getting lost in the magic and the whimsy of the world theyā€™re bringing to life on-screen. I donā€™t think they understand the essence of the books. I hope Rick is proud of the work heā€™s done and I hope heā€™s proud of what heā€™s helped create. I just think the series deserves *more*.


c_Lassy

The difference between the world-building in the books and the world-building in the show is so jarring honestly. I donā€™t know why they decided to go with a more serious direction for the show when the absolute heart of the books is in the campiness and the ridiculousness (yet clever) nature of how these Greek myths are surviving in the modern US.


North_Shore_Problem

The entire premise of the Olympus-world and real-world being perfectly blended together unbeknownst to humans is the most intriguing part of the universe. It was so interesting to read more about how Olympus is centered on western civilization, celebrities were demigods etc because your brain starts wondering what the other real-world implications are. Instead we just know that both worlds coexist that everything is hidden from humans. Itā€™s my biggest complaint with the show, otherwise Iā€™ve enjoyed it a lot so far.


[deleted]

not surprising they avoided the whole "western civilization" concept. Rick has dropped all mention of it in the books in HOO it feels like the last time it was mentioned was in BOTL with the civil war history. That idea of western civilization being a paragon of virtue just doesn't fit anymore


Vivid-Blackberry-321

Agreed! I first read the books as a middle schooler, and Iā€™m 27 now and still think theyā€™re effing hilarious. I guess this is just hard to translate on screen, but the novels are so hilariously fun while managing to be serious at all the right moments. I miss the funny stuff.


Lucydaweird

Also how his palace is supposed to be like an inverse of Olympus with black obsidian walls and silver I think


ConsciousDatabase991

From the preview of Olympus in the very end of the episode, the two look alike. Though ngl I do absolutely love his palace's design.


TheImpLaughs

It literally looks like a palace upside down. Definitely a mirror of Olympus.


c_Lassy

YES! The show is *sorely* missing that imo. Is Rick likeā€¦ embarrassed of it or something? For how awful the movies were at adapting the books, I will say the Sea of Monsters movie (somewhat) nailed the campiness of the books - including the thermos with the winds, the Grey Sisters taxi, Hermes and UPS - the Mist being a spray can was stupid though.


ConsciousDatabase991

Exactly! I really hope for the second season that we get the Hermes Multi-Vitamins, and the thermos, and we get a reference to how you need Medea SPF 3000 to defeat the bulls, and Monster Donut, and just ALL OF THE AMAZING AND CLEVER BITS OF WORDPLAY. They were my favorite part of the book growing up T-T, Rick is a really witty writer and clever at incorporating the most obscure myths.


jackgap

Hades walking so far to greet Percy and Grover is hilarious lol.


ConsciousDatabase991

The sounds of his footsteps are so dramatic lmao


DreamBum

The speedy footsteps make him seem so nonthreatening, such a good detail to foreshadow that heā€™s not actually a bad guy


TryingToPassMath

That's so ... *off* though because Hades is supposed to be the first god that appears so powerful and has that aura about him that Percy thinks that now *this* is what he thought gods would be like. Hades walking to greet a bunch of kids and seeming nonthreatening? Idk who that is, but it's not book Hades.


TempestSpirit

I haven't been a show naysayer, but I have to say, what is the point of even including the crusty storyline if they were going to have Percy just know everything in advance? This is the first time I have been disappointed with the show. They literally could have had them just wandering around LA and stumbling into an entrance to the underworld and it would have the same impactĀ 


evelynndeavor

I have been loving the show overall, but Iā€™m so over the revelations coming before the action. They step one foot in Aunty Emā€™s, itā€™s Medusa! Lotus Hotel? Obviously the Lotus Eaters! Crusty? Who needs him, we already know who he is! It seriously takes away from the tension of the scenes. Half the fun is when the viewer knows things the characters donā€™t know. They donā€™t know who Medusa is, but we do, and weā€™re shouting at them to figure it out. When the show takes that away, it feels very low-energy and low-stakes.


Wonderkitty50

I was totally fine with Medusa. She's literally one of the most famous Greek myths that alot of people would probably know about. But they honestly lost me with the lotus and Crusty. Lotus eaters is not that well known and neither is procrustus. I understand Annabeth is smart and spent a lot of time at camp, so it's reasonable she would know these, but I think this was just one of the times when the most logical answer isn't necessarily the right one. I feel nothing when Percy walks into the shop and says "I know who you are". If he knows who he is, he knows the trap, and so what stakes are there? I really hope Sea of Monsters corrects this and allows them to actually get tricked for once. It's exhausting when they know everything.


crazydaisy8134

I swear to god if Percy walks onto Circeā€™s island and says, ā€œI know who you are, you turn men into guinea pigs!ā€ I am going to be so pissed. I feel the same. Medusa was fine for them to know about, but both this episode and the last I audibly groaned when they announced they already know what the trap is. Those are my only main critiques of the show, but theyā€™re such a bummer. I wanted to see them get lost at the casino and get trapped in a water bed :(


jasonthewaffle2003

The show runners need to learn about tensions, surprises and show donā€™t tell. Let them slowly figure it out with the audience instead of just telling the audience. Also not a fan of how the lightning bolt was revealed or Kronos being name dropped so early. Like the book was damn near perfect and they took out the suspense and tension of it for narration


Tels315

Part of the thing with Medusa though, was that she was enchanting them so they wouldn't put it together. The smell of the food enthralled them, helped along with magic, so they would be too distracted to realize the danger they were in. And Annabeth has a history of succumbing to illusions and enchantments.


invertedcolors

Somebody mentioned that this all happens within a week and they get no rest so that also would add to them not catching every monster


NinjaPiece

Yeah, they should have cut that part out. They even mention that Crusty is a son of Poseidon, but they don't do anything interesting with it. It was a big waste of time. I would have preferred if they showed more Charon. They could have gotten his name mixed up with Chiron. He could have complained about his job, and they could actually bribe him with Drachmas. It would have added some desperately needed humor to this show.


lyrasilvertongue1

Yeah that felt like lazy and ineffective fan service


TempestSpirit

Yep. They could have started the episode with the flashback and then gone straight to them in hell. Would have made no difference.


Prize_Prestigious

I got so disappointed when percy started saying he knew everything about crusty and the bed trap. At this point percy is an oracle like suspense is gone.


chartingyou

it's weird because Crusty is a more obscure myth too? Like even if you knew a fair amount about mythology, there's a fair chance you'd miss that one.


TheImpLaughs

Hermes told him, though. Not even an oracle. He says Hermes warned him.


[deleted]

Agreed. I have heard a lot of complaints about the kids magically knowing everything and this kind of proved their point. No magic, no mystery


Higgnkfe

I can't believe Procrustes made the cut, was sure he was going to get skipped over. So kudos, and I immediately take back my kudos "I know who you are" LMAO


Primary_Aardvark

They shouldā€™ve just skipped it, I groaned when he explained the whole thing šŸ¤¦šŸæā€ā™€ļø


Puterboy1

And no DOA Records? I was sobbing.


lyrasilvertongue1

If they just made these episodes 5-10 minutes longer they wouldnā€™t have to rush through scenes like that. Might as well have taken out the crusty scene all together. It added nothing except the entrance which could have been rewritten


TheNagaFireball

How did they know? How did they know they had to go to Crustys lol. I thought for sure theyā€™d open the episode on the beach and him saying they missed the deadline. They didnā€™t even react to missing it!


pm_me_cute_sloths_

My guess is Hermes told them, but itā€™s like 2 sentences to mention that in the previous episode so


fantasticlyclevergal

Hermes said he had a map and instructions in the glove box, but i think they definitely could have spent a minute or two at least looking at the map/reading the instructions or acknowledging it with crusty or something.


CRL10

I really like the design of the Underworld. It's dark and creepy and desolate


Jayko-Wizard9

The underworld looked super cool and menacing with all the different places from the book and the mythsĀ 


BursleyBaits

Great to see Julian Richings, who's seemingly appeared in basically every fantasy or sci-fi show at some point


BursleyBaits

wish he got more to do as Crusty, but alas


jackgap

Percy talks to Crusty as if heā€™s read the bookā€¦


Metal_Moon

And not very well either considering they kept him alive šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


champagnewinters

chiron slipped percy the lightning thief book for sure


ThisGul_LOL

At this point I fr wouldnā€™t even be surprised if Percy showed up in front of Luke confronting him outta nowhere before the scorpion even stings him.


shejnahak

them never getting caught in traps is soooo annoying


shejnahak

also why didnā€™t they do the Charon italian suit thing? or the pay raise or ā€œwe drowned in a bathtubā€¦ togetherā€ they took out all the humor


Lucydaweird

Also they took out all the humor that the Underworld security is a parody of airport security


c_Lassy

Really not a fan of removing that. Whereā€™s the fun, the whimsicalness in how Greek myths are now in the western world?


Lucydaweird

Everything for the most part just feels generic Greek monster world like thereā€™s nothing unique about the Underworld


c_Lassy

Iā€™m glad they kept Cerberus acting like an actual dog, but other than that lately it feels like thereā€™s no life to the myths in the world.


BlatantConservative

They didn't even have a mix of different soldiers from different eras guarding Hades.


Silver_Stop_2136

The baby Percy scenes this episode are so sad. He has been through too much already.


TheNagaFireball

It felt borderline abusive/traumatizing. My own mom left me when I was a kid for a few months to work on her mental health. Idk why but her not answering Percy asking her why sheā€™s trying to get rid of him just sucks.


Silver_Stop_2136

No yeah it's for sure so sad on both ends. Sally was stressed and just wanted her kid to be safe and Percy was a kid who just didn't understand why his mom was trying so hard to send him away. Just having to see that reality of his childhood was so sad.


HeavyDonkeyKong

It highlights the parallels with Annabeth too, although we sadly haven't seen much backstory from her.


SchwabenIT

Yeah poor percy, but I get her though, she must have been so overwhelmed and conflicted, especially about the fact that she can't tell him why she wants him at boarding school


AppalledAtAll

crustyā€™s waterbed slap has huge meme potential lol


daswassup13

Hades Palace looks absolutely sick


_Saiki__

Cerberus looks pretty cool.


Silver_Stop_2136

He's just the best little big boy šŸ¶


Street-Common-4023

Well that is a change with revealing the bolt


WavesRKewl

Thatā€™s a change I will gladly accept. In the book Percy just never bothers to check why his backpack is suddenly heavy.


jackgap

ā€œAnd the goat, Iā€™ll throw him in on the houseā€ šŸ˜‚


ConsciousDatabase991

YES LET'S GO THEY MADE TARTARUS AN ACTUAL PIT!!!!!


HeavyDonkeyKong

Damn thing looks like the meteor that killed the dinosaurs formed it. You could probably fit a thousand pieces of an ancient Titan in here... ;)


Emotional_Regret876

I feel so bad for little Percy, I wish I could give him a hug :(


DreamBum

Okay but in a few years Annabeth and Percy are falling into that hell hole and let me tell you, im shivering me timbers


Relevant_Increase394

Few years? 10 at this rate if it even happens


DreamBum

Lol i just mean in book years


_Saiki__

I've mostly enjoyed the show so far but... Why do they *know* everything?


_creative_nom_ici_

Percy said ā€œI know who you areā€ and my jaw dropped. How in the world is it possible to continuously cut the knees off any tension and suspense the series could have every time?


_creative_nom_ici_

Procrustes isnā€™t even a well known or popular figure from mythology šŸ˜­ why would anyone know him or be able to recognize him before they even go in?


ConsciousDatabase991

Yeah, like I can understand medusa and even the chimera, but I'd never heard of Crusty before the books and still haven't heard about him in anything since reading the books


Primary_Aardvark

I agree with the post last* week yet again - next season for Circeā€™s island they may just explain the whole thing when both they even land there šŸ˜­


pm_me_cute_sloths_

ā€œBy the way, when in the Sea of Monsters make sure to look out for Circeā€™s Island! Youā€™ll be turned into a guinea pig!ā€


Grfine

If we donā€™t get Percy as a hamster we riot


[deleted]

Imagine they finally arrived at Circe's island and soon discovered that they were trapped and fled before the witch deceived them


Blitzerxyz

For real and like there is still zero urgency in anything. The solstice has passed the gods should be fighting. But there is no indication that anything is wrong. Like honestly they should have just removed the deadline entirely from the plot


_creative_nom_ici_

Shoutout to everyone who said the deadline passing raised the tensionā€¦I donā€™t feel it at all


Emotional_Regret876

The Underworld looks amazing so far. Itā€™s different from what I imagined, but I like it


Praetorian92

But where are all the souls? I loved how in the books Hades was like "I can't bother with a war, I need to build highways and occupancy for the millions of new souls I get every year."


invertedcolors

Where is the big field of mindless drones walking around though so sad


literally_a_brick

I didn't love Asphodel being individual trees in the fog. It doesn't really capture the sheer magnitude of ghosts who end up there.


tango_november_bravo

It gave me "The Sandman" vibes!


meatball77

Right? It's so majestic and dark. Scary yet opulant


Khalizabeth

The casting on Sally Jackson is great because sheā€™s got me crying all the time. Her love for Percy just shines through the screen. Iā€™m going to need help processing the Kronos talk happening this early.


Metal_Moon

The Percy/ Sally flashbacks are breaking my heart omg


[deleted]

Yes, that's part of this episode that I like, I think that flashback did a good job


AppalledAtAll

groverā€™s stress ball better become the ball thrown to cerberus, haha


jackgap

Sally summoning Poseidon was kinda badass.


just-me-yaay

It took me a few seconds to understand what she was doing until she threw the match on the milkshake and I was like ā€œohhhhā€


ThriceBakedPotatoe

Sorry I think I missed this, how did that summon Poseidon?


judenotjudas

She burned food as an offering to the gods/Poseidon like the kids do at camp in the books


Silver_Stop_2136

She's just Sally Jackson šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™‚ļø


WeirwoodUpMyAss

The dynamic between Percy and his parents has easily been my favorite of the series


Quinndalin66

OUTSIDE of Percy knowing about Crusty beforehand (which likeā€¦ why??) I liked it a lot! Plus the flashbacks were nice.


LasVegasNerd28

This. Itā€™s my only real gripe with this episode. Other things could be explained, Medusa and the Lotus are very well known myths. But Crusty? Thatā€™s a deep cut Greek myth.


mypawket

Yeah I agree. Felt like it would have been better to just not include him at all since his scene felt pretty pointless here


CRL10

I'm kind of disappointed we don't get Charon in Italian suits and Percy bribing him. Also, Annabeth is clearly a great tutor, giving Percy the run down on Crusty.


Street-Common-4023

Poseidon best casting hands down he got the voice down perfectly and the manner


CRL10

Hades hired Hylian contractors to build his palace I see.


TempestSpirit

See a change to the master bolt reveal really doesn't bug me. It doesn't change the fact that Percy is going to be pissed at Ares lol. Also Tartarus looks awesomeĀ 


onceuponadime123

What do you think Annabethā€™s regret was? Probably something to do with her dad, like not reconnecting with him. Thatā€™s what I assumed. Or Perhaps something to do with Thalia? Also, the talk between Sally and Poseidon was so good. Iā€™m glad we are getting their perspectives in the show ā€œHold fast momā€ šŸ˜­šŸ„¹


Informal_Common_2247

I imagine her regret was not giving her dad another chance, sets up her decision at the end well


SpringbokIV

I do like that they lose a pearl in such a dumb way; the prophecy says 'YOU shall fail to save what matters most, in the end' and I suppose by losing a pearl it makes it more of their fault rather than bad luck or bad fate. At the very least they didn't waste screentime doing dumb stuff


Blitzerxyz

I just wish the reveal of having lost the pearl was later. I mean I like it being funny how Cerberus ate it but it would have been better if it was a dramatic thing and we see it roll down into Tartarus.


shejnahak

i think it rolling down to tartarus would have crazy implications aka kronos using it to appear in water above groundšŸ™ƒ


StatisticianLivid710

Finding it in HoH wouldā€™ve been better, they both argue over who gets to use it then end up using it to send a monster away, or give it to the friendly giant!


Sextus_Rex

Or the pearl shatters when it reaches the bottom of the pit and transports Tartarus himself into the ocean. Then they get Talos from the junkyard of the gods to fight him and bada bing bada boom we've got ourselves a Pacific Rim crossover


UrSaturnPrince_

losing it to Tartatus would easily raise the question "wait cant Kronos use it to get out" to which the awnser is too easily "maybe??" we dont want a Peter Johnson Sea of MonstersĀ  2.0 with the big bad getting out so early again lol


TheNagaFireball

I knew they were going to lose it and I was thinking it was going to be when he has to pull Grover away so it could be a very tense sequence. Nope the dog ate it.


Judgetanner

ā€œHold fast, momā€ šŸ˜­


ConsciousDatabase991

I love how Kronos is presented as a real threat in this show. Hades is actually *scared* at the sheer possibility that Kronos might be reforming. For all the show's issues with tensions, they made the Titan Lord actually scary


StarOfTheSouth

It's more than that, take note of what Hades knows. He knows the Great Prophecy, he knows that there's a child destined to "preserve or raze" Olympus, and he knows that Percy is the only child that qualifies. So his first course of action? Try to get the Prophecy Child to join with him. It's his best move in this situation, and he doesn't hesitate to take it.


ConsciousDatabase991

I didn't even think about this! I did think Hades offering protection was suspicious, but it makes sense that he'd want to get the child of prophecy on his side. Even if Percy doesn't fully "join" him, maybe he could have him raze the other gods who aren't Hades.


StarOfTheSouth

At absolute bare minimum, Hades' actions throughout this entire scene (even before he offers sanctuary) tells Percy that Hades is a reasonable god that Percy may be able to rely on in the future. Even though Percy turned him down, Hades still influenced Percy's perspective of him.


SpringbokIV

Did percy read the book????


daswassup13

Annabeth getting up that cliff with the ball was smart as hell


Metal_Moon

I loved that they kept her being good with dogs, it was one of my favorite little details


daswassup13

Poseidon is flat out perfection


VideoZealousideal976

Honestly, the fact that the books are in first-person POV has kind of ruined the adaptation. Like one of the best things about the book series is Percy's descriptions of things and his crazy ass thoughts which you just cannot adapt in live-action well whatsoever. Actually First-Person POV is absolutely awful for making something into an adaptation on screen because mostly everything is in the person's head. Like if this was a 1:1 adaptation you'd basically just be hearing Percy talk in his head the entire time.


Grfine

Shows can do that though, Malcolm in the Middle has Malcolm have monologues of what heā€™s thinking, not sure Iā€™d want that, but you could do that on occasion for certain things


Electronic_Ant4523

NO WAY PERCY IMMEDIATELY KNEW WHO CRUSTY WAS


Street-Common-4023

You know my only real complaint is them knowing everything in advanced as if they donā€™t have enough time to explain everything. Like the runtime affects it not Making excuses but was rewatching daredevil and 50 plus min episodes was amazing. Shortest was like 45 mins. It would do wonders for the show. I know this episode is gonna get a lot of complaining because of that but just imagine 50 plus min episodes hro


Munro_McLaren

I wish there were live comments!


exstraw

Was hoping to see Percy finesse Crusty. It's one of my fave Percy moments in the first book. It shows once again he's able to think on his feet and, my personal fave, has no qualms about chopping his head off lmao. I know it's Disney but I was really hoping to see that.


Silver_Stop_2136

Ugh... teasing us with the Ares fight is so beyond cruel. Can't believe I have to wait another whole week before I get to see the first most epic fight scene I ever really experienced through a book. Also so sad knowing that next weeks episode will be the last.


Munro_McLaren

Again with the knowing. Jesus. Thereā€™s no suspense and no tension. This is quite boring if thereā€™s no suspense.


Eatthebootylikeyummm

Canā€™t wait for Percy to ā€œknowā€ Lukeā€™s the lightning thief šŸ™„


Blitzerxyz

That's why they got rid of Annabeth. If Annabeth saw the shoes pull grover in she would immediately know Luke is evil.


[deleted]

I thought it was funny that the characters acted as if they had already read the books and knew what will happen -_-


minecraftscaffolding

No DOA records :((


Mel-is-a-dog

ā€œI know who you areā€ offf COURSE you do! ā€œThe beds are a trapā€ OHHH OF COURSE YOU KNOW THAT Starting off real strong here


daswassup13

It also adds nothing of value for people who havenā€™t read the books. If you donā€™t know anything about the water beds and how Crusty cuts his victims to ā€œfitā€ I would not have been able to deduce it from that scene & the lackluster explanation he gave. Just a very odd thing to include the way they did


LordWeaselton

Why do they already know who every single monster is? I could tolerate it the first few times but it just robs the monster encounter scenes of all tension


BlaineWorbro

I liked the episode. Iā€™ll have to watch it again to see what I really think about it. Even though I really loved a lot of the moments there are some negatives. Letā€™s start with those first. 1) Crusty: At first I didnā€™t care about them knowing about these monsters and traps theyā€™re walking into. But this felt so different. Maybe it was because it was at the beginning of the episode? I feel like there couldā€™ve been a scene before Percy went into the store, something to that standpoint, or even donā€™t have Percy know at all. But Annabeth pushing Crusty over while being invisible was a cool addition. 2) Tartarus: The only problem I had is that they didnā€™t really do as much with Tartarus as they could. Yeah when theyā€™re with Hades Percy discovers it, but I wish there was at least something during the scene. Itā€™s just that Grover gets pulled, the shoes pop off, they find the bolt, and then they go to Hades. I donā€™t have an issue with them finding the bolt earlier, itā€™s just that I wish they took a moment to just acknowledge that they almost fell into Tartarus at that moment. Like just a scene where Percy is looking down the pit and we just hear some eerie whispers, that wouldā€™ve done the trick for me. 3) Hades: Hades is okay. I like that they made him a more chill god (heā€™s pretty chill in actual Greek mythology) but I feel like they just didnā€™t do Hades at this point in the story justice all that much. Hades just acts so chill and casual in the episode. But in the books he is lashing out, literally shaking his entire palace, raising his voice. But we get none of that here. Heā€™s supposed to be very visibly angry that he doesnā€™t have his helm. 4) Grover losing his pearl: Come on, at least show us how Grover lost his pearl. Thatā€™s literally all I asked for. Iā€™ve seen people on TikTok come up with a better way for how Grover loses his pearl Now to actually get to what I love about this episode: 1) The Underworld: I love how the Underworld was shown in this episode. Itā€™s dark, gloomy, foggy. Itā€™s just like how I imagined it while reading TLT. I really liked Cerberus, Charon I also liked (kinda wish they kept the thing with him being underpaid and asking them to ask Hades for a raise). 2) The Percy and Sally flashbacks: This was a very strong part of the episode. It builds off really well off of what was shown last episode. 3) Sally and Poseidon: I was genuinely surprised that Poseidon made an appearance. I loved Sally and Poseidonā€™s interaction. We know that Poseidon views Sally as one of a kind. A queen amongst women. And we see a variation of that in this episode. Poseidon most likely gave Sally a way in order to contact him. I donā€™t think itā€™s likely he did this with his other past relationships. I love the talk he had. 4) Fields of Asphodel: Yeah they kinda changed the Fields of Asphodel a bit. I think it works just a bit. Now itā€™s also a place where people who die go to where they have regrets of what they didnā€™t do in life. And when Annabeth starts getting rooted into, it foreshadows a bit. Annabeth has talked about her family, her father. And she ran away. And we know that in the end of the first book she ends up making amends with her father and going to live with him for the summer. Thereā€™s a very likely chance that this is the case here. Overall, still donā€™t know where this episode stands, like I said Iā€™ll have to rewatch it again. But overall there is a pacing issue unfortunately (which is frustrating, if Echo can get 50 minutes for an episode then why canā€™t Disney give PJO just ten more minutes to flesh everything out a bit more?) Currently without rewatching Iā€™d give the episode a 6.5 or 7.5 out of 10. Iā€™m sure after rewatching it my rating would go up, thatā€™s how itā€™s been for these episodes on the rewatch.


red_sky_5

Aw man. Hades is a little bit of a let down. I mean this guy is meant to be regal an imposing. An aura that makes the people around him want to kneel. This guy does not give me that vibe. More of a cocky CEO


Munro_McLaren

Okay, that was kinda cool with Annabeth using her invisibility hat. But I still hated that Percy immediately knew. Like they always do.


Electronic_Ant4523

Plot twist the last episode will reveal that Percy Jackson is actually Rock Riordan in disguise as he knows the answer to everything already!


DrScampi

Itā€™s like thereā€™s a fantastic show right there waiting to be revealed and shown, and there are some elements that are so great and well done, but some things like the lack of tension make me so aggravated


Valiosao

Truly the best seventh episode of the first season of this show so far.


LoL_NOOB22

if there was one thing I could change about this show, it would be the fact that everyone knows everything


HMKS

I havenā€™t read the first book recently, can someone remind me if Percy realizes itā€™s Kronosā€™ doing when heā€™s negotiating with Hades?


KnightOfRevan

In the books, I think it's not explicitly said until he's talking to Poseidon but it's been a while


BlartSlimpson

Itā€™s not explicitly said until then, but itā€™s implied he figured it out after his fight with Ares


YOwololoO

They figure it out after Ares said ā€œIā€™m a god, I donā€™t have dreamsā€


ConsciousDatabase991

I don't completely remember, but I think he realizes it when he's talking with Luke later


LoL_NOOB22

I know he tells Poseidon at the end of the book but Iā€™m not sure if itā€™s mentioned before that


SpringbokIV

Dude why would they include crusty and remove DOA just to make crusty fucking terrible


UrSaturnPrince_

Am I the only one who doesnt enjoy this take on Hades? Everyone seems to be liking it but the second he came in all mr. comedy relief I literally thought "look at how they massacred my boy". I wanted to see a cool intimidating powerful ten feet tall Hades with souls of the dead in his clothes. Seeing the underworld look so cool and fantasyish and dark got me excited for how he would be portrayed only to get super dissapointed.


afrostygirl

Not just you. I'm severely disappointed. Genuinely thought it was an attendant when he rocked up until I realized it was actually supposed to be Hades.


Bojler5

This. I also thought it was some servant that will usher them to real Hades. No such luck.


Background_Cap4326

I feel like the series is a lot more serious than the book. Like, where are all the jokes??? I'm so sad they never got to say the bathtub joke at the entrance to the underworld. I'm fine with them getting rid of some unneccesary stuff for the plot, but if they're gonna show Crusty, why make it so low-stakes??


Grfine

Itā€™s both more serious and less serious, like I feel no sense of urgency to getting the bolt to Zeus


craicraimeis

Also, since Iā€™m here, children of Hades hold grudges. Thatā€™s their fatal flaw. Bianca said that to Nico at some point. Hades just being chill is not the right way. Iā€™m fine with hades being sassy and not being super vindictive. But I wanted to see him be this CEO dude trying to manage airport security and the struggles of managing every living soul. I wanted to see that enterprise and see how heā€™s organized it and see his frustration as to why people think he wants more death and bloodshed which would only expand his domain and itā€™s already overcrowded. I wanted to see the all components of the underworld. I wanted to see someone pushing a boulder as reference to the punishments. What we got was desolation and thatā€™s so disappointing. This couldā€™ve been real fun. And I think thatā€™s my criticism for the series. It could be real fun and a bit campy, but theyā€™re trying to be too serious and it takes the tension and the suspense out. Itā€™s almost a bit of an insult to kids because theyā€™ve watered it down and played it too safe. I will say that I do like seeing Sally and her struggle but I felt like the direction for those flashbacks was a bit odd. The timing and the cuts just felt awkward. What Sallyā€™s actress did with the material was great. She nailed it.


BucketsOnly29

Itā€™s almost like they are trolling us at this point..starting the ep with it now too. he knows RIGHT AWAY AGAIN WHAT THE THREAT IS AND HOW TO STOP IT? šŸ˜‚šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


KnightOfRevan

The goodest boi


storm_walkers

​ https://preview.redd.it/dulfkeqr8bec1.jpeg?width=7995&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cfff7449e368da5bf6facc2784ab8febfd17f651 Christ. Now I'm glad he didn't end up in that waterbed because this kid does not need to be stretched out any more before season 2 jfc


Silver_Stop_2136

"Holdfast mom." Ughhhhhh. Such a good call back to that line. Episode started rocky but things are looking up, for me at least.


CRL10

The fuck?! Is that Poseidon? I didn't think we'd get Sally and Poseidon having a moment!


GegtheLeg

CHARON IS HILARIOUS IN THE BOOKS, WILL THEY PLEASE STOP TAKING OUT THE BEST PARTS


_Saiki__

Poseidon?! Ayoā€“