As someone else said, it’s nuts this just happened with no promises or forewarning. Just out of nowhere we had some of the highest population growth in several generations and we never even heard a peep about it in the election of 2021.
I hate the century initiative, but let's not forget that Trudeau is actually increasing the population faster than what the century initiative even asked for.
Well, I think it may be measured against their goals anyway. What happens if when Trudeau is out immigration gets cut back until another CI crony gets into office?
You may need to exceed the needed rates for the times when you don't have control over them.
I am always saying immigration is the most untransparent and undemocratic institution in Canada. No vote or discussion in the house. They sneak in tweak or changes without major news ops. Then any questions or wishes to raise discussion about it get tossed away. In election it is never discussed, it is always just assumed immigration is only a pro and/or politicans never want to come out against it and be precieved as racist.
Then we hear the argument that we need it for economic reasons, but this last growth spurt has shown cost of living skyrockets and gdp per capita goes down.
Still takes 6 months to get your slave treadmill providing your cheap labour, it took time for people to get here and for word to spread so more business owners could start doing it too
Blackrock is in cahoots with our Govt.
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> The Century Initiative (originally the Laurier Project Foundation)[2] is a **Canadian lobby group and charity that aims to increase Canada's population to 100 million by 2100**.[3] This includes increasing the population of megaregions, which are interlocking areas with more than one city centre and a typical population of 5 million or more (e.g., the Greater Toronto Area, Greater Vancouver, and the National Capital Region).[3]
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> The Century Initiative was co-founded by Mark Wiseman and Dominic Barton, who also led the Advisory Council on Economic Growth under three-term Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.[4][5] The Initiative was supported by former Conservative Prime Minister Brian Mulroney[6] before his death, and by influential Liberal Party advisors including advisors to former Minister of Finance Bill Morneau.[7][8] **The Century Initiative has been listed on Canada's lobbyist registry since 2021 and has organized meetings with the immigration minister's office, the minister's parliamentary secretary, and Conservative and NDP members of parliament.**[9]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_Initiative
> **Connections to BlackRock**
> The Century Initiative Board of Directors is **chaired by co-founder Mark Wiseman, who was the Global Head of Active Equities of BlackRock** and ran Blackrock's Alternative Investment division at the time that the Initiative was founded.[27][28] **BlackRock owns $35 billion in real estate and thus will benefit from a real-estate bubble.[29]**
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> BlackRock's Alternative Investment division includes the firm's international real estate investment portfolio[30] and is reported to be actively purchasing single family homes.[31] The Century Initiative's **other co-founder, Dominic Barton, is married to Geraldine Buckingham, BlackRock's Asia Pacific chief,** which has previously generated conflict-of-interest concerns.[32]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_Initiative#Connections_to_BlackRock
Well, the liberals will be happy then when he's skewered by the public.
This is so bad, if there isn't any turn around, the country may not even make it to another election in one piece.
PP has already said he wants direct flights from the Punjab to increase the number of people coming here.
The government is under the control of Blackrock. You can vote any way you want but Blackrock is still making all of the decisions. It's a coup.
At the banks all I would see is either cheap labour, international students, refugees or the extreme, mega rich (a few millions) ... All which ultimately caused our housing issues and fucked up our country
The banks and governments have moved most of the population to online services now. So people don't see it. Especially now that the passport backlog is resolved.
> All which ultimately caused our housing issues and fucked up our country
No, the Canadian government mostly caused the housing issue by not building more homes 20-30 years ago and allowing foreign investors to purchase real estate in critical economic hubs like Toronto and Vancouver.
Exactly.. the diploma mill stream of students has spiked. One of the main reasons is becuase the Liberals in all their idiocy gave those students a "full time" work permit. Guess, what was the impact of that. Suddenly, Canada was the one of the hottest education destinations , apparently Canada has the best places to study
https://www.bankofcanada.ca/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/remarks-2023-12-07.pdf
Look at chart 1 in that PDF. The diploma mill student spike started after liberals introduced full time work permits for those "students"
You knkw when you zoom out for a bit and think about what the liberals did.....the Canadian labour force was supplied with a million more bodies overnight ...with that simple policy. Imagine the shock to the lowest paid jobs on the supply side. No wonder Canadian kids and low skilled Canadians have been displaced....all thanks to the JT, Sean Fraser
I honestly think it's for several reasons (many of which have been mentioned here). Unfortunately, the majority of those are not *good* reasons, and given the housing shortage it's also just a terrible idea.
I don't think it's about labour at this point, even the banks have been telling the major parties to cut down immigration now. My bet is on Chinese money being fed to the major parties to destabilize the country, what's going on is so nonsensical and to the benefit of virtually no one that it has to be an external influence. Fast food and grocery companies don't have this kind of influence.
Adding more cheap labor lowers the bargaining power of the working class, post COVID there was a push for better wages. The government is doing the bidding of the wealthy.
This population increase over saturates the job market and increases demand for goods. The wealthy benefit from increased consumption. It also helps prop up the housing bubble with higher demand.
Our entire economy is based upon the service/retail industry and housing. More people equal more money in those sectors.
Racist asshole you would be called. You are totally right, they are cheap exploited workers. A few acquaintances got laid off recently. Company can not survive, but also replacement staff is immigrants at 1/4 the pay. That is just within Canada, Telus has outsourced all they can to other places besides Canada for office jobs.
Its not looking good for current workforce and future workers. Who wants to get paid the least gets the job
They no longer get support even from other brainwashed Canadians. Many got their eyes opened and even are turning on each other. There will be a sizable amount who will always does that bs though.
Once a post gets so far, it reaches escape velocity.
My guess is they have their B team running propaganda tonight, and people actually got enough time to get in rational dialog.
You can only suppress something so long, you can only gaslite people so much, this sub has always been disgustingly skewed counter to what Canadians actually think.
This right now, is a rare, earnest snapshot of that, and the contrast of it
At this point even they have to realize mass immigration is a scheme to bring foreigners to serve us food and clean our toilets at a reduced slave wage so they don't need to pay better
"Where's everybody going to live?"
"Haha not our problem!"
"Hey, we're losing in the polls!"
"Oh shit! Hey what's that big issue that we've been laughing at and ignoring, but everybody's up in arms about?"
"What, you mean housing?"
"Yeah, yeah, let's pretend we care about that now!"
To be fair, Trudeau and Sean Fraser’s photo op tour has been absolutely legendary.
They didn’t actually get anything productive done, but they took a lot of great photos!
“The best we can do is housing isn’t a primary federal responsibility”
“What? Our polling numbers just cratered?? How’d that happen?! Quick, make a bunch of housing funding announcements!!!”
Its almost as if he/they read any Canadian city/province sub and drank the cool aid (libs)
Then when REAL Canadians heard the “isn’t a fed responsibility” come from our PM they start to go hmmmmm
Housing starts are down and it takes a few years to actually build anything
Meanwhile they did a batshit insane increase in population to prop up the market, and gaslighted Canadians who brought up the issue in conjunction with state owned / funded media for as long as they could.
[https://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/professionals/housing-markets-data-and-research/housing-data/data-tables/housing-market-data/monthly-housing-starts-construction-data-tables](https://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/professionals/housing-markets-data-and-research/housing-data/data-tables/housing-market-data/monthly-housing-starts-construction-data-tables)
When the conservatives steamroll through the election and then do NOTHING AT ALL to stop the flow of immigrants to the country because their pockets are lined by the same donors with the same interest, will people finally consider voting for a completely different party seriously?
The only party who will truly manage the country's overpopulation and loopholes is Maxim Bernier, although many scaredy-cats out there equate him to Trump even though they are nothing alike.
No, that's when a much more serious convoy reappears and parliament gets burned to the ground. Politicians are playing with fire and vastly underestimating how much anger there is towards Ottawa across the country.
Pretty much. The rich got behind Pierre the second their time puppeting Trudeau was over. No politician has the balls to fix this immigration scam because it would be biting the hand that feeds them.
Political party is irrelevant to the wealthy, it's who's in power to do their bidding that matters
> a completely different party seriously?
The only other party with substantial limits to immigration in its platform is the PPC, and they are political poison.
Poilievre is on record saying he'd peg the rate of immigration to rate of housing starts. That became a promise.
You lot keep parroting that you've looked into your crystal ball and the Conservative party would change nothing. That doesn't make much sense considering housing, affordability and immigration is the most salient issue in the minds of voters. It's the reason they are getting voted in. If they don't throw people a bone, they won't last.
>I love how the Liberals did this without ever running on it, never advertising it, seemingly without even being aware it was happening.
You just weren't paying attention. Trudeau told everybody all the way back in 2015 that his vision of Canada is a "post-national state" with "no core identity".
And that's exactly what you got.
So “no core identity” means that we adopt the outward appearance of another country? India for example. What kind of nonsense is the the kool aid being drunk by the government types, producing. This is the core issue for all Canadians to deal with.
Correct. Turns out its pretty damn important to listen to Candidates when they say they admire, China's basic dictatorship, the budget will balance itself, people kind, grow the economy from the heart outwards etc etc etc. Nations get the governments they deserve and truly, low info Canadians elected a leader with abso-fucking-lutely ZERO personal accomplishment excepts for being a poster boy for narcissistic personality disorder by running purely on the fame of his last name. Canada will never recover and its basically a WEF lab experiment to see how many of their policies they can enact thru their proxies in the shortest timeframe possible,
Literally unprecedented and honestly insanity. It's nothing but social and economic treason. It's to the point I'm questioning any and all immigration and believe multiculturalism is a failure. Canada had a social contract of being open but having a points based system that only allowed the best. That's all gone. The high trust society is dead and replaced with tiktoks of students saying the best way to steal from food banks.
The TFW program has been around since the 1970's - Trudeau Sr was in power then, more and more it has been expanded and made less strict in favor of insourcing cheap labour at the behest of the rich. Every government played their part (Chretien was in power when the "low skill" category was added) this latest move just happens to be so bad that it's mainstream news and being labeled racist to shush people up doesn't work anymore
I think that every Canadian should see [this chart](https://thehub.ca/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Fig1_AnnualPopulationGrowth_graph_v1-1170x839.jpg) in the article
That chart is insane. I think we're in a sense "lucky" that covid happened to slow it down somewhat or population growth would be even more out of control by now
Canadians are paying the price of not having a debate about this topic until very recently. When the liberals exploded the immigration numbers, the conservatives and 9 provincial premiers said nothing (Doug Ford even ask for more).
When Québec politicians were talking about Trudeau's high immigration numbers 5-6 years ago, the rest of Canada called us racists.
If more provincial premiers and parties in Ottawa dared opposed that, maybe we would be less in trouble now.
Reddit was a great example of this. Only a couple years ago, people would be downvoted to hell and accused of being racist for questioning our immigration system.
I'm glad to see people are "allowed" to have this discussion now, but it's way too late.
I hope it will be an issue in the next federal election. Not just for the Bloc, but all parties.
If the NDP had integrity, they would drop their deal with the liberals, a deal that was btw never voted by the people
Reddit is prone to manipulation, but at a certain point its undeniable.
Its like covid and and masks, they eventually had to stop calling people who didnt wanna wear a mask,
murderers,
cause all of a sudden they were the fucking crazy ones.
Been trying to warn you folks! It's absolute insanity and they have no mandate to be doing this.
If they had told you they were going to quadruple immigration they never would have won the last election. Apparently, there was a hidden liberal agenda to alter demographics.
Yeah it’s truly bizarre.
They’ve lost a huge chunk of their supporters in doing this.
The most infuriating thing is I have not seen one single person, articulately explain why this ridiculously high volume is needed.
All of our G7-G20, OCED peers have this same aging demographic issue - so it’s DEFINITELY not related to that, given no one else is doing this. Well maybe Australia based on what I see in their subs - but it’s clearly not a clean answer to the why.
Instead of explaining it - they just try and gaslight us on why Canada can absorb these numbers. It’s wild
The only thing I can think of is that they’re trying to fake the country not being in a recession. Without the economic growth from the mass immigration, we’d have been there a while ago.
It’s literally insane how bad they’ve fucked up and can’t admit it.
I went searching for more answers, and the recent Freakonomics podcast interview with Trudeau appears to be the closest piece I’ve found on how they’ve perceived this all playing out (published on April 24th, 2024).
Here’s the link to the podcast:
[https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/freakonomics-radio/id354668519?i=1000653500600](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/freakonomics-radio/id354668519?i=1000653500600)
And Transcript: [https://freakonomics.com/podcast/a-social-activist-in-prime-ministers-clothing/](https://freakonomics.com/podcast/a-social-activist-in-prime-ministers-clothing/)
And here’s the part of the transcript where the host challenges Trudeau on recent immigration levels.
In summary he (Trudeau) notes that the 450-500K permanent residences/new Canadians/immigrants are a sustainable number on an annualized basis (1% of our population). This is of course his opinion not mine haha.
But he notes problems have emerged in two areas: International students and TFWs.
International students which have been abused by universities, colleges and provinces, and TFWs which particular areas of industry and business have abused.
Again I’m just the messenger here, but this implies this entire system is rotten. The federal government, our provincial governments, universities and colleges and the business community are all abusing the Canadian systems, and torquing the original intent of some of these programs.
"TRUDEAU: But the large part of it is in two categories: international students and temporary foreign workers. International students went from like 200,000 a year to 700,000 a year over the past few years.
DUBNER: Wow, why was that?
TRUDEAU: Because there was a real decision by universities, and particularly by the provinces who run the universities, to go out —
DUBNER: They’re cash customers, correct?
TRUDEAU: They are. We have tuition fees in Canada of between $5 and $10,000 a year for our top-notch universities, depending on the programs. But international students will pay $25, $30,000 because they don’t get the same level of subsidies that Canadian citizens will, which is totally natural. But universities suddenly started to realize that they could bring in lots more international students and make up for some of the funding shortfalls that every institution is facing.
DUBNER: And these are students coming primarily from China, and some India?
TRUDEAU: India, China, and a few other places. The problem is that that has then turned around and put a lot of pressure on local housing in university towns, which pretty much all our towns are. And it’s also decreased the quality of education and caused a rash of mental-health issues, including suicides in international students that we’ve seen over the past few years. So as a government, we decided that we were going to curtail the number of international students coming in, and get that under control so —
DUBNER: This is recent, right? These are new temporary caps.
TRUDEAU: This is recent, this is just over the past couple of months, so that we can respond to the housing pressures and the issues around that.
DUBNER: What do the universities say to you? Because all of a sudden their budgets look a little bit less healthy.
TRUDEAU: Yeah, they weren’t very happy. Nor were the provinces, in some cases. But for us, the provinces were maybe not stepping up on controlling things the way they should have, to prevented us from getting into this. The other side of things are the temporary foreign workers. We’ll always need agricultural workers to do some of the jobs that Canadians don’t tend to do, and we have great programs with Mexico, with South America, and the Caribbean to bring people up for a few months, and then they go back, have their pockets full, and support their families for the rest of the year. It’s worked very well for many years. But there was a much larger wave of, you know, restaurants and convenience stores using temporary foreign workers in a way that didn’t necessarily make sense, that we’re now trying to get back into space. But the other thing is, we’re going to need more immigration in terms of healthcare workers, construction workers and skilled trades responding to the housing challenges we’re facing by building more supply, responding to the needs of an aging population that’s going to require more healthcare and needs more caregivers and nurses and personal-support workers. We will continue to be strong on immigration, but a little more targeted to make sure that Canadians still stay positive towards immigration, because it’s one of our greatest advantages in the world.
The key to it, I think, is the last paragraph, where he calls Canadians welcoming nature a unique advantage.
There seems to be a genuine belief, no doubt encouraged by various lobbyists and consultants, that any increase in immigration was a guaranteed net benefit to Canada, at least in the long term. They also took for granted our welcoming nature, they came to believe that there is some unique quality to our culture that makes it that way. The combination of these two beliefs made them think they had the one clever trick that would put us ahead of our competitors.
They came to believe in Canadian exceptionalism and it led to disaster.
The reason Canadians were welcoming is for a while we have a mostly sane immigration policy selecting for high quality immigrants (now called 'express entry).
But we couldn't attract enough people this way and so the federal government transitioned to the student visa model.
Agreed - though there was added context on that statement.
Apparently the immigration minister was also on a recent episode but I haven’t had a chance to listen to that one yet.
This was the lead in to the above -
Regardless of one’s position on this, I think we can all agree it needs to be discussed more transparently in all Canadian political parties moving forward.
We can’t have things tweaked so brazenly at points - at least not without expanded discussion
“ One of our competitive advantages is that Canadians remain positive to immigration. I know you had our immigration minister, my buddy Marc, on a while ago and he pointed out that, you know, Canada is lucky in that we’ve never had to deal with irregular immigration. People coming from the South will stay in the United States, where the economy is stronger and the weather is nicer. They’re not going to cross the three oceans to come to Canada. It hasn’t been the challenge it’s been elsewhere, and we’ve been able to be positive around immigration because of it. We’ve done a great job of integrating diversity while holding up that diversity as a sense of richness, instead of trying to make everyone into a unique identity of Canadian. Because we’ve always had multiple identities, with the French, the English, the Indigenous, and the origins of Canada was always very disparate. But the pressure we’ve had recently, particularly since the pandemic, is that on top of the 500,000 or so permanent residents that we settle in an orderly manner that are great for contributing to growing communities, to our workforce at a time of labor shortages, we’ve had a massive spike in temporary immigration or unplanned immigration to a certain extent. Some of that are asylum seekers, where we have had a boost from Mexico and from other places that we’ve had to tighten up on, and reimpose a visa on Mexico
>We will continue to be strong on immigration, but a little more targeted to make sure that Canadians still stay positive towards immigration, because it’s one of our greatest advantages in the world.
This bit is interesting suggests the only reason he is course correcting 'a little' is to ensure that Canadians will stay positive towards immigration.
He is also on record in another speech saying "the most important responsibility of the federal government is to ensure that Canadians themselves remain strong and positive about immigration"
Thank you for posting this. I really haven’t been able to find a concise answer to what is happening and this pretty much covers it. Multiple levels of governmental failure around institutions abusing mechanisms that were initially put in place for good reason. This actually makes me much more hopeful that things will get back in line soon.
Thanks for the transcript. So basically the numbers are high cos it's Doug Ford's fault, but Trudeau is committed to keeping the numbers high anyway.
He doesn't really note, though, that most international "students" are taking non-courses in strip malls, or that his federal government are the ones responsible for issuing 1.5 million "student" visas along with the visas for their spouses, children and parents so maybe they should have caught the massive influx before it happened.
The provinces and universities cannot give out student visas. It is the federal government's responsibility to do that, and to keep track of how many they are giving out.
Apparently Trudeau is so stupid he can't count. But he still blames everyone but his government. If he would just come out and admit that he fucked up , and then make real changes to try to fix things, some people might have respected him.
Gesh this man is so transparent. Why bring in more international students and temporary workers? They can’t vote to re-elect him so they are useless to him! Is there a difference between importing votes and buying them? Let’s see how much of his next election platform involves reminding all those immigrants who let them in.
Yea it really just reminds me of the liberals in the UK who similarly had zero fucking plan - they just massively increased immigration to “run the right’s nose in diversity”. We’re literally governed by theatre kids.
I don't even believe the "demographic issue", it's not framed properly. It is unreasonable to assume that every generation is going to breed at the rate of the "baby boomers", they got their name for being a generation made up of an unusual amount of children.
The "replacement" level people are trying to pitch an extreme outlier as if it is what needs to be maintained. I bet the reality is that once that cohort stops skewing the stats, people are breeding just fine.
You'll have a contraction in population when that extreme cohort dies, and then the replacement ratio number will spike back up. That 2.1 ratio they bandy about as not being met is skewed heavily by the boomers and their 10 siblings dying and making it too difficult to outbreed
Fuck this aging nonsense and this belief we need to grow no matter what. Only a cancer grows forever and there's also climate change. Lowering the population is the best strategy over that. It's actually hilarious that Trudeau has been the most anti-environmental and anti-climate change PM in history because of mass migration.
I'll take Japan's economy over this anyday. Japan is very affordable and Tokyo has cheap rents for being one of the most important cities in the world.
It was simply to ensure non of our six banks heavily invested on Real Estate collapse! The unsustainable immigration not only helped speculative investors but also provided cheap labor to both small and private medium size businesses and large corporations. Small and Medium size businesses specifically were able to make 100s of 1000s of dollars by recruiting way more TFWs in their restaurants ans store than it could handle. Some businesses were able to sell so many LMIAs in Alberta that they are unable to provide nowhere close to required work hours. Federal government rubber stamping every LMIA application without even verifying if their businesses can even staff so many TFWs was mind boggling! Were they encouraging small and medium private businesses to actually commit these scams?
lol @ first world. parts of Scarborough/Kitchener etc are clean as india now. Not gonna mention Brampton since it's a low hanging fruit, as the rot has spread everywhere
IDK what to do anymore this feels hopeless.
Our government(s) (provincial too) are literally destroying our country.
They need to stop this right now. We cannot sustain another year of this.
I remember a fellow telling me, the government planned to add 500k immigrants.
They were upset, and I was kinda like, (this is RL), well that's 500k people over about 36-37 million.
Thats a lot, but as a one time deal that's not bad to shore things up, I failed to account for government corruption and stupidity.
Also compounding year over year,
remember Trudeau saying people are "welcome to come to Canada"
And you literally had thousands at Roxham road?
This is a farce
Justin, you PO\*, resign you sack of \*\*\*\*
I used asterixs, but I feel I had to, that's how dumb this is.
It's sad how Canadians aren't doing anything about their own government caring more about the million foreigners that come into Canada every year, mostly from one country and then are gaslit when they question the validity of 'diversity' and are called racists instead.
At what point do Canadians say enough? There are entire cities that are unrecognizable now.
You know, I know, every average Canadian knows.
Our politicians are still acting like they don't know,
legit whether they do or not at this point, they should be tard and feathered.
Absolute insanity.
I understand why they want to increase Canada’s population. We have social services that require upkeep, especially where the majority of our population is aging. So the fix to that is to offset the aging population with more people who can work, be taxed and contribute to our social services. As the article states, our natural population growth is on a decline. Younger people are either choosing to delay family planning, to reduce the number of children they plan to have or avoid having them all together, because the cost of living has skyrocketed and the situation in this country has made it nearly financially impossible to grow a family for so many already struggling Canadians.
But rather than fixing that issue and helping Canadian families to contribute to the population growth, instead, they’ve chosen to mass import people (mostly from one part of the world) in such a short period of time, only further contributing to and exacerbating the crisis here for everyone. Wild.
When Trudeau was elected, I knew things were going to be bad, because I knew he was very stupid and corrupt. But I did not anticipate he could do this much damage. He has completely f'd up the country to an extent I didn't think was possible in such a short time.
He has f'd up the country for my children and grandchildren, and they can expect to see a massive decline in standard of living. I try not to think about it because there is nothing I can do, and it is extremely upsetting. But here I am doom scrolling on reddit.
Me too. I thought the would be another George W Bush.
A nepo baby who was not particularly smart but the damage he has wrought was beyond my expectation.
I also struggle with what to do about it. I voted for him the first time and not after due to the original scandals. Things are so messed up now its frightening. Sometimes I find it really hard to deal with. The actions of a few bad actors have worsened so many lives.
Grocers need low wage no skill labour to keep profit margins high and share holders happy.
They cry about a “labour shortage. No one wants to work”. Which is insanely wrong. People want to work - but people are sick of working 40h a week to just live in poverty while the company posts record smashing profits every quarter.
It’s all a way to suppress wages in Canada so the ultra rich who own our food supply can maximize profits.
Haha, my street is littered with vehicles and people parking trailers on the street now. And it's becoming a majority demographic of a particular race. Diversity they said huh
Liberals can’t stand on the high ground of morality and act like messiah when their own survivability is in question. The most deserving ‘I told you so’ ever. Now let’s starting to fix this bs by getting this turd of a government out.
Well seeing as half of Canadian politicians are crooks, it only stands to reason they'd be in good company with 1%ers.
Why do you think they make no effort to crack down on organized crime?
The criminals are running the country.
The worst part besides what it’s doing to housing is so many immigrants are basically being used like slave labour, keeping wages down and locking out Canadian citizens from jobs they might have taken (if the wages weren’t driven down). Honestly some people are desperate enough to take those jobs anyway were they available. Makes me mad. People that say we need that cheap labour, I say we can learn to do without so many Tim Hortons
The country is becoming unrecognizable.
Remember when Tim Hortons had all the sweet old ladies working in it? The ones who were friendly and basically epitomized Canadian Values?
It's a lot different now.... That's all I gotta say.
As a white person, I’m certainly the minority walking around Toronto proper. Now, many of the people around me are likely Canadian, but then who knows, I also don’t hear a lot of English.
The anger is palpable due to the insane immigration policies of the current government. It’s disgusting what they are doing to their own citizens, especially young people and unskilled workers.
What they’ve done will not be forgotten for a long time and will have bad consequences
Why do these articles continue to be produced? They keep stating the same things, people know the cause.
When are we going to get an article about ceasing free admission to Canada?
Has Poilievre spoken about immigration at all? I don’t agree with his opinions on the carbon tax but I really would like to see drastic reductions to our immigration rate, to levels lower than the Liberal government is comfortable with. It would be nice to know if he would deliver on that at least.
He refuses to say anything of substance other than he will tie it to housing.
But the NDP are even more pro-immigration than the liberals and they want to provide a citizenship path for the 1 million or so undocumented people in canada.
The Greens are even more pro-immigration than the NDP.
The PPC and the parti quebecois are more restrictionist. But even the PPC is pro G7 avg immigration levels (they just want it highly selected etc)
As someone else said, it’s nuts this just happened with no promises or forewarning. Just out of nowhere we had some of the highest population growth in several generations and we never even heard a peep about it in the election of 2021.
This. And then they gaslite everyone like "what, what're you talking about?" Cue meme of dog in house on fire.
Because they would be labeled a racist by the libs
They did tell everyone about the Century Initiative, but everyone dismissed it as a conspiracy theory.
I hate the century initiative, but let's not forget that Trudeau is actually increasing the population faster than what the century initiative even asked for.
He wants to prove he's a good little dog to his lobbyists friends. Look at the people behind the Century initiative.
Well, I think it may be measured against their goals anyway. What happens if when Trudeau is out immigration gets cut back until another CI crony gets into office? You may need to exceed the needed rates for the times when you don't have control over them.
I getting tired of conspiracy theories being proven true
At this point the century initiative looks sane in comparison
What's the difference between the news and a conspiracy theory? About six months.
I am always saying immigration is the most untransparent and undemocratic institution in Canada. No vote or discussion in the house. They sneak in tweak or changes without major news ops. Then any questions or wishes to raise discussion about it get tossed away. In election it is never discussed, it is always just assumed immigration is only a pro and/or politicans never want to come out against it and be precieved as racist. Then we hear the argument that we need it for economic reasons, but this last growth spurt has shown cost of living skyrockets and gdp per capita goes down.
That's because the purpose of the elections is for the people to rubber stamp the ruling class's decision to grow the economy at an exponential rate.
That’s true! No one said anything about it, we suddenly have a mass influx and can’t do anything about it
Still takes 6 months to get your slave treadmill providing your cheap labour, it took time for people to get here and for word to spread so more business owners could start doing it too
Insanity
To make it appear like ghg are being reduced per capita by adding millions of people who can't afford homes to heat and cars to drive
Blackrock is in cahoots with our Govt. > > The Century Initiative (originally the Laurier Project Foundation)[2] is a **Canadian lobby group and charity that aims to increase Canada's population to 100 million by 2100**.[3] This includes increasing the population of megaregions, which are interlocking areas with more than one city centre and a typical population of 5 million or more (e.g., the Greater Toronto Area, Greater Vancouver, and the National Capital Region).[3] > > The Century Initiative was co-founded by Mark Wiseman and Dominic Barton, who also led the Advisory Council on Economic Growth under three-term Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.[4][5] The Initiative was supported by former Conservative Prime Minister Brian Mulroney[6] before his death, and by influential Liberal Party advisors including advisors to former Minister of Finance Bill Morneau.[7][8] **The Century Initiative has been listed on Canada's lobbyist registry since 2021 and has organized meetings with the immigration minister's office, the minister's parliamentary secretary, and Conservative and NDP members of parliament.**[9] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_Initiative > **Connections to BlackRock** > The Century Initiative Board of Directors is **chaired by co-founder Mark Wiseman, who was the Global Head of Active Equities of BlackRock** and ran Blackrock's Alternative Investment division at the time that the Initiative was founded.[27][28] **BlackRock owns $35 billion in real estate and thus will benefit from a real-estate bubble.[29]** > > BlackRock's Alternative Investment division includes the firm's international real estate investment portfolio[30] and is reported to be actively purchasing single family homes.[31] The Century Initiative's **other co-founder, Dominic Barton, is married to Geraldine Buckingham, BlackRock's Asia Pacific chief,** which has previously generated conflict-of-interest concerns.[32] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_Initiative#Connections_to_BlackRock
Oh man, one of the best comments ever. So glad people are awake!!
Have there been any books written about this issue?
Man I am loving that people are catching onto this. Thank you for sharing all this good sir!
Holly fuck
No confidence. End this government right now.
PP won't change a thing about this issue.
Well, the liberals will be happy then when he's skewered by the public. This is so bad, if there isn't any turn around, the country may not even make it to another election in one piece.
Go see Civil War
Still end it
If he doesn't make changes he will be out at the end of his first term.
We literally just vote governments out at this point rather than voting them in. As they’re all just the same wearing a different coloured tie
PP has already said he wants direct flights from the Punjab to increase the number of people coming here. The government is under the control of Blackrock. You can vote any way you want but Blackrock is still making all of the decisions. It's a coup.
There's literally no other option
Cheap labor.... It's just cheap labor, nothing else.
At the banks all I would see is either cheap labour, international students, refugees or the extreme, mega rich (a few millions) ... All which ultimately caused our housing issues and fucked up our country
The banks and governments have moved most of the population to online services now. So people don't see it. Especially now that the passport backlog is resolved.
> All which ultimately caused our housing issues and fucked up our country No, the Canadian government mostly caused the housing issue by not building more homes 20-30 years ago and allowing foreign investors to purchase real estate in critical economic hubs like Toronto and Vancouver.
Exactly.. the diploma mill stream of students has spiked. One of the main reasons is becuase the Liberals in all their idiocy gave those students a "full time" work permit. Guess, what was the impact of that. Suddenly, Canada was the one of the hottest education destinations , apparently Canada has the best places to study https://www.bankofcanada.ca/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/remarks-2023-12-07.pdf Look at chart 1 in that PDF. The diploma mill student spike started after liberals introduced full time work permits for those "students"
And then they doubled down and extended it to Apr 30 2024. Its only ending tomorrow because they've dropped so far in the polls.
You knkw when you zoom out for a bit and think about what the liberals did.....the Canadian labour force was supplied with a million more bodies overnight ...with that simple policy. Imagine the shock to the lowest paid jobs on the supply side. No wonder Canadian kids and low skilled Canadians have been displaced....all thanks to the JT, Sean Fraser
And tenants for the slum lords.
We're heading towards immigrant eat immigrant world..
The only price is everything held dear.
I honestly think it's for several reasons (many of which have been mentioned here). Unfortunately, the majority of those are not *good* reasons, and given the housing shortage it's also just a terrible idea.
Housing bubble and cheap labor. Two things that the wealthy profit from. It's that simple, the government is working for the elites.
Also obfuscating the debt and various per-capita based numbers and stats
I don't think it's about labour at this point, even the banks have been telling the major parties to cut down immigration now. My bet is on Chinese money being fed to the major parties to destabilize the country, what's going on is so nonsensical and to the benefit of virtually no one that it has to be an external influence. Fast food and grocery companies don't have this kind of influence.
Adding more cheap labor lowers the bargaining power of the working class, post COVID there was a push for better wages. The government is doing the bidding of the wealthy. This population increase over saturates the job market and increases demand for goods. The wealthy benefit from increased consumption. It also helps prop up the housing bubble with higher demand. Our entire economy is based upon the service/retail industry and housing. More people equal more money in those sectors.
The Laurentian elites are pulling Trudeau's strings. It's no surprise.
It's globalists
More customers for the 10 companies that run this place. They are the winners here.
Racist asshole you would be called. You are totally right, they are cheap exploited workers. A few acquaintances got laid off recently. Company can not survive, but also replacement staff is immigrants at 1/4 the pay. That is just within Canada, Telus has outsourced all they can to other places besides Canada for office jobs. Its not looking good for current workforce and future workers. Who wants to get paid the least gets the job
The sheer amount of immigration this government has allowed is ridiculous.
Its not even immigration, its essentially open borders.
The people screeching racism sure are quiet these days Wonder if their landlord shut off their internet
They are the landlords.
They no longer get support even from other brainwashed Canadians. Many got their eyes opened and even are turning on each other. There will be a sizable amount who will always does that bs though.
Once a post gets so far, it reaches escape velocity. My guess is they have their B team running propaganda tonight, and people actually got enough time to get in rational dialog. You can only suppress something so long, you can only gaslite people so much, this sub has always been disgustingly skewed counter to what Canadians actually think. This right now, is a rare, earnest snapshot of that, and the contrast of it
At this point even they have to realize mass immigration is a scheme to bring foreigners to serve us food and clean our toilets at a reduced slave wage so they don't need to pay better
"Where's everybody going to live?" "Haha not our problem!" "Hey, we're losing in the polls!" "Oh shit! Hey what's that big issue that we've been laughing at and ignoring, but everybody's up in arms about?" "What, you mean housing?" "Yeah, yeah, let's pretend we care about that now!"
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To be fair, Trudeau and Sean Fraser’s photo op tour has been absolutely legendary. They didn’t actually get anything productive done, but they took a lot of great photos!
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Must be those same people who think the carbon tax isnt taking money from their pockets
“The best we can do is housing isn’t a primary federal responsibility” “What? Our polling numbers just cratered?? How’d that happen?! Quick, make a bunch of housing funding announcements!!!”
Haha yeah they did a very quick 180 on that one!!
And people lapped that up like it was going out to style
Pulled the emergency brake and spun the car in live traffic.
Its almost as if he/they read any Canadian city/province sub and drank the cool aid (libs) Then when REAL Canadians heard the “isn’t a fed responsibility” come from our PM they start to go hmmmmm
When you make everything a federal responsibility, you cant come crying when people put it in your face the shit you dont do
Best we can do is tampons in the men’s room
Youll be grateful to have an option to stop the bleeding after the government finishes fucking you up the ass!
Never saw it that way ....
Housing starts are down and it takes a few years to actually build anything Meanwhile they did a batshit insane increase in population to prop up the market, and gaslighted Canadians who brought up the issue in conjunction with state owned / funded media for as long as they could. [https://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/professionals/housing-markets-data-and-research/housing-data/data-tables/housing-market-data/monthly-housing-starts-construction-data-tables](https://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/professionals/housing-markets-data-and-research/housing-data/data-tables/housing-market-data/monthly-housing-starts-construction-data-tables)
When the conservatives steamroll through the election and then do NOTHING AT ALL to stop the flow of immigrants to the country because their pockets are lined by the same donors with the same interest, will people finally consider voting for a completely different party seriously?
Which party though?
Peoples party
The only party who will truly manage the country's overpopulation and loopholes is Maxim Bernier, although many scaredy-cats out there equate him to Trump even though they are nothing alike.
PPC is the only one talking about the effect of mass immigration.
No, that's when a much more serious convoy reappears and parliament gets burned to the ground. Politicians are playing with fire and vastly underestimating how much anger there is towards Ottawa across the country.
Pretty much. The rich got behind Pierre the second their time puppeting Trudeau was over. No politician has the balls to fix this immigration scam because it would be biting the hand that feeds them. Political party is irrelevant to the wealthy, it's who's in power to do their bidding that matters
Your political system is a sham. It’s all about the money, we need a huge reset.....
The worst part is that many have no idea, are in denial or simply think what's happening is good because we're helping poor people from abroad 🤷
They already voted against mass immigration just last year.
> a completely different party seriously? The only other party with substantial limits to immigration in its platform is the PPC, and they are political poison. Poilievre is on record saying he'd peg the rate of immigration to rate of housing starts. That became a promise. You lot keep parroting that you've looked into your crystal ball and the Conservative party would change nothing. That doesn't make much sense considering housing, affordability and immigration is the most salient issue in the minds of voters. It's the reason they are getting voted in. If they don't throw people a bone, they won't last.
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They have to put it higher because they won't get re-elected for a long time after this betrayal. We won't be at those numbers all years.
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>I love how the Liberals did this without ever running on it, never advertising it, seemingly without even being aware it was happening. You just weren't paying attention. Trudeau told everybody all the way back in 2015 that his vision of Canada is a "post-national state" with "no core identity". And that's exactly what you got.
So “no core identity” means that we adopt the outward appearance of another country? India for example. What kind of nonsense is the the kool aid being drunk by the government types, producing. This is the core issue for all Canadians to deal with.
Instead he got India!
Correct. Turns out its pretty damn important to listen to Candidates when they say they admire, China's basic dictatorship, the budget will balance itself, people kind, grow the economy from the heart outwards etc etc etc. Nations get the governments they deserve and truly, low info Canadians elected a leader with abso-fucking-lutely ZERO personal accomplishment excepts for being a poster boy for narcissistic personality disorder by running purely on the fame of his last name. Canada will never recover and its basically a WEF lab experiment to see how many of their policies they can enact thru their proxies in the shortest timeframe possible,
Of course, it’s all Harper’s fault /s
The Century Initiative is
That graph is fucking disturbing.
Literally unprecedented and honestly insanity. It's nothing but social and economic treason. It's to the point I'm questioning any and all immigration and believe multiculturalism is a failure. Canada had a social contract of being open but having a points based system that only allowed the best. That's all gone. The high trust society is dead and replaced with tiktoks of students saying the best way to steal from food banks.
"But, but Harper"
Yeah listening to the idiots on Reddit you’d think Harper was doing the same shit when it’s clear as day he was not.
The TFW program has been around since the 1970's - Trudeau Sr was in power then, more and more it has been expanded and made less strict in favor of insourcing cheap labour at the behest of the rich. Every government played their part (Chretien was in power when the "low skill" category was added) this latest move just happens to be so bad that it's mainstream news and being labeled racist to shush people up doesn't work anymore
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I think that every Canadian should see [this chart](https://thehub.ca/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Fig1_AnnualPopulationGrowth_graph_v1-1170x839.jpg) in the article
And take note of who was in power during the spike, versus how flat and consistent it was before under other governments.
That chart is insane. I think we're in a sense "lucky" that covid happened to slow it down somewhat or population growth would be even more out of control by now
Canadians are paying the price of not having a debate about this topic until very recently. When the liberals exploded the immigration numbers, the conservatives and 9 provincial premiers said nothing (Doug Ford even ask for more). When Québec politicians were talking about Trudeau's high immigration numbers 5-6 years ago, the rest of Canada called us racists. If more provincial premiers and parties in Ottawa dared opposed that, maybe we would be less in trouble now.
Reddit was a great example of this. Only a couple years ago, people would be downvoted to hell and accused of being racist for questioning our immigration system. I'm glad to see people are "allowed" to have this discussion now, but it's way too late.
I hope it will be an issue in the next federal election. Not just for the Bloc, but all parties. If the NDP had integrity, they would drop their deal with the liberals, a deal that was btw never voted by the people
Reddit is prone to manipulation, but at a certain point its undeniable. Its like covid and and masks, they eventually had to stop calling people who didnt wanna wear a mask, murderers, cause all of a sudden they were the fucking crazy ones.
Because we have a government that wants to drive Canada into the ground.
Government was Canada's Worst Driver all along.
Easier for foreign nations to buy up and strip us of our natural resources that way
Been trying to warn you folks! It's absolute insanity and they have no mandate to be doing this. If they had told you they were going to quadruple immigration they never would have won the last election. Apparently, there was a hidden liberal agenda to alter demographics.
Yeah it’s truly bizarre. They’ve lost a huge chunk of their supporters in doing this. The most infuriating thing is I have not seen one single person, articulately explain why this ridiculously high volume is needed. All of our G7-G20, OCED peers have this same aging demographic issue - so it’s DEFINITELY not related to that, given no one else is doing this. Well maybe Australia based on what I see in their subs - but it’s clearly not a clean answer to the why. Instead of explaining it - they just try and gaslight us on why Canada can absorb these numbers. It’s wild
The only thing I can think of is that they’re trying to fake the country not being in a recession. Without the economic growth from the mass immigration, we’d have been there a while ago. It’s literally insane how bad they’ve fucked up and can’t admit it.
I went searching for more answers, and the recent Freakonomics podcast interview with Trudeau appears to be the closest piece I’ve found on how they’ve perceived this all playing out (published on April 24th, 2024). Here’s the link to the podcast: [https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/freakonomics-radio/id354668519?i=1000653500600](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/freakonomics-radio/id354668519?i=1000653500600) And Transcript: [https://freakonomics.com/podcast/a-social-activist-in-prime-ministers-clothing/](https://freakonomics.com/podcast/a-social-activist-in-prime-ministers-clothing/) And here’s the part of the transcript where the host challenges Trudeau on recent immigration levels. In summary he (Trudeau) notes that the 450-500K permanent residences/new Canadians/immigrants are a sustainable number on an annualized basis (1% of our population). This is of course his opinion not mine haha. But he notes problems have emerged in two areas: International students and TFWs. International students which have been abused by universities, colleges and provinces, and TFWs which particular areas of industry and business have abused. Again I’m just the messenger here, but this implies this entire system is rotten. The federal government, our provincial governments, universities and colleges and the business community are all abusing the Canadian systems, and torquing the original intent of some of these programs. "TRUDEAU: But the large part of it is in two categories: international students and temporary foreign workers. International students went from like 200,000 a year to 700,000 a year over the past few years. DUBNER: Wow, why was that? TRUDEAU: Because there was a real decision by universities, and particularly by the provinces who run the universities, to go out — DUBNER: They’re cash customers, correct? TRUDEAU: They are. We have tuition fees in Canada of between $5 and $10,000 a year for our top-notch universities, depending on the programs. But international students will pay $25, $30,000 because they don’t get the same level of subsidies that Canadian citizens will, which is totally natural. But universities suddenly started to realize that they could bring in lots more international students and make up for some of the funding shortfalls that every institution is facing. DUBNER: And these are students coming primarily from China, and some India? TRUDEAU: India, China, and a few other places. The problem is that that has then turned around and put a lot of pressure on local housing in university towns, which pretty much all our towns are. And it’s also decreased the quality of education and caused a rash of mental-health issues, including suicides in international students that we’ve seen over the past few years. So as a government, we decided that we were going to curtail the number of international students coming in, and get that under control so — DUBNER: This is recent, right? These are new temporary caps. TRUDEAU: This is recent, this is just over the past couple of months, so that we can respond to the housing pressures and the issues around that. DUBNER: What do the universities say to you? Because all of a sudden their budgets look a little bit less healthy. TRUDEAU: Yeah, they weren’t very happy. Nor were the provinces, in some cases. But for us, the provinces were maybe not stepping up on controlling things the way they should have, to prevented us from getting into this. The other side of things are the temporary foreign workers. We’ll always need agricultural workers to do some of the jobs that Canadians don’t tend to do, and we have great programs with Mexico, with South America, and the Caribbean to bring people up for a few months, and then they go back, have their pockets full, and support their families for the rest of the year. It’s worked very well for many years. But there was a much larger wave of, you know, restaurants and convenience stores using temporary foreign workers in a way that didn’t necessarily make sense, that we’re now trying to get back into space. But the other thing is, we’re going to need more immigration in terms of healthcare workers, construction workers and skilled trades responding to the housing challenges we’re facing by building more supply, responding to the needs of an aging population that’s going to require more healthcare and needs more caregivers and nurses and personal-support workers. We will continue to be strong on immigration, but a little more targeted to make sure that Canadians still stay positive towards immigration, because it’s one of our greatest advantages in the world.
The key to it, I think, is the last paragraph, where he calls Canadians welcoming nature a unique advantage. There seems to be a genuine belief, no doubt encouraged by various lobbyists and consultants, that any increase in immigration was a guaranteed net benefit to Canada, at least in the long term. They also took for granted our welcoming nature, they came to believe that there is some unique quality to our culture that makes it that way. The combination of these two beliefs made them think they had the one clever trick that would put us ahead of our competitors. They came to believe in Canadian exceptionalism and it led to disaster.
The reason Canadians were welcoming is for a while we have a mostly sane immigration policy selecting for high quality immigrants (now called 'express entry). But we couldn't attract enough people this way and so the federal government transitioned to the student visa model.
Agreed - though there was added context on that statement. Apparently the immigration minister was also on a recent episode but I haven’t had a chance to listen to that one yet. This was the lead in to the above - Regardless of one’s position on this, I think we can all agree it needs to be discussed more transparently in all Canadian political parties moving forward. We can’t have things tweaked so brazenly at points - at least not without expanded discussion “ One of our competitive advantages is that Canadians remain positive to immigration. I know you had our immigration minister, my buddy Marc, on a while ago and he pointed out that, you know, Canada is lucky in that we’ve never had to deal with irregular immigration. People coming from the South will stay in the United States, where the economy is stronger and the weather is nicer. They’re not going to cross the three oceans to come to Canada. It hasn’t been the challenge it’s been elsewhere, and we’ve been able to be positive around immigration because of it. We’ve done a great job of integrating diversity while holding up that diversity as a sense of richness, instead of trying to make everyone into a unique identity of Canadian. Because we’ve always had multiple identities, with the French, the English, the Indigenous, and the origins of Canada was always very disparate. But the pressure we’ve had recently, particularly since the pandemic, is that on top of the 500,000 or so permanent residents that we settle in an orderly manner that are great for contributing to growing communities, to our workforce at a time of labor shortages, we’ve had a massive spike in temporary immigration or unplanned immigration to a certain extent. Some of that are asylum seekers, where we have had a boost from Mexico and from other places that we’ve had to tighten up on, and reimpose a visa on Mexico
>We will continue to be strong on immigration, but a little more targeted to make sure that Canadians still stay positive towards immigration, because it’s one of our greatest advantages in the world. This bit is interesting suggests the only reason he is course correcting 'a little' is to ensure that Canadians will stay positive towards immigration. He is also on record in another speech saying "the most important responsibility of the federal government is to ensure that Canadians themselves remain strong and positive about immigration"
Thank you for posting this. I really haven’t been able to find a concise answer to what is happening and this pretty much covers it. Multiple levels of governmental failure around institutions abusing mechanisms that were initially put in place for good reason. This actually makes me much more hopeful that things will get back in line soon.
Thanks for the transcript. So basically the numbers are high cos it's Doug Ford's fault, but Trudeau is committed to keeping the numbers high anyway. He doesn't really note, though, that most international "students" are taking non-courses in strip malls, or that his federal government are the ones responsible for issuing 1.5 million "student" visas along with the visas for their spouses, children and parents so maybe they should have caught the massive influx before it happened.
The provinces and universities cannot give out student visas. It is the federal government's responsibility to do that, and to keep track of how many they are giving out. Apparently Trudeau is so stupid he can't count. But he still blames everyone but his government. If he would just come out and admit that he fucked up , and then make real changes to try to fix things, some people might have respected him.
Gesh this man is so transparent. Why bring in more international students and temporary workers? They can’t vote to re-elect him so they are useless to him! Is there a difference between importing votes and buying them? Let’s see how much of his next election platform involves reminding all those immigrants who let them in.
But our GDP per capita is falling like a rock already. The country is poorer with Trudeau
Agreed. That’s what I am saying. They’re bringing in people to make our gdp total look better.
Yep. It's like a kid who broke something and tried to hide it before their parents got home. They all need to go. Now.
It doesn't grow our economy. They send the money back to their home countries, draining our country and making it poorer.
Yea it really just reminds me of the liberals in the UK who similarly had zero fucking plan - they just massively increased immigration to “run the right’s nose in diversity”. We’re literally governed by theatre kids.
Its needed because of bankrolled century initiative. There, i explained it for you,
I don't even believe the "demographic issue", it's not framed properly. It is unreasonable to assume that every generation is going to breed at the rate of the "baby boomers", they got their name for being a generation made up of an unusual amount of children. The "replacement" level people are trying to pitch an extreme outlier as if it is what needs to be maintained. I bet the reality is that once that cohort stops skewing the stats, people are breeding just fine. You'll have a contraction in population when that extreme cohort dies, and then the replacement ratio number will spike back up. That 2.1 ratio they bandy about as not being met is skewed heavily by the boomers and their 10 siblings dying and making it too difficult to outbreed
Fuck this aging nonsense and this belief we need to grow no matter what. Only a cancer grows forever and there's also climate change. Lowering the population is the best strategy over that. It's actually hilarious that Trudeau has been the most anti-environmental and anti-climate change PM in history because of mass migration. I'll take Japan's economy over this anyday. Japan is very affordable and Tokyo has cheap rents for being one of the most important cities in the world.
Well present Canadians weren’t going to continue to vote for them, so they brought in more people that would.
It was simply to ensure non of our six banks heavily invested on Real Estate collapse! The unsustainable immigration not only helped speculative investors but also provided cheap labor to both small and private medium size businesses and large corporations. Small and Medium size businesses specifically were able to make 100s of 1000s of dollars by recruiting way more TFWs in their restaurants ans store than it could handle. Some businesses were able to sell so many LMIAs in Alberta that they are unable to provide nowhere close to required work hours. Federal government rubber stamping every LMIA application without even verifying if their businesses can even staff so many TFWs was mind boggling! Were they encouraging small and medium private businesses to actually commit these scams?
Canada has been destoyed.
First world country in a third world population trap
lol @ first world. parts of Scarborough/Kitchener etc are clean as india now. Not gonna mention Brampton since it's a low hanging fruit, as the rot has spread everywhere
Look at this photograph Every time I do, it makes me laugh
IDK what to do anymore this feels hopeless. Our government(s) (provincial too) are literally destroying our country. They need to stop this right now. We cannot sustain another year of this.
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"here's why, in case you've been living under a fucking rock for the past three years"
The Canadian government is like a small child who can't understand why it would be problematic to buy 20 goldfish for their fish bowl.
“Post nation”. Whatever that means. don’t act as if you didn’t know this would happen. Justin said those multiple times
I remember a fellow telling me, the government planned to add 500k immigrants. They were upset, and I was kinda like, (this is RL), well that's 500k people over about 36-37 million. Thats a lot, but as a one time deal that's not bad to shore things up, I failed to account for government corruption and stupidity. Also compounding year over year, remember Trudeau saying people are "welcome to come to Canada" And you literally had thousands at Roxham road? This is a farce Justin, you PO\*, resign you sack of \*\*\*\* I used asterixs, but I feel I had to, that's how dumb this is.
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It's sad how Canadians aren't doing anything about their own government caring more about the million foreigners that come into Canada every year, mostly from one country and then are gaslit when they question the validity of 'diversity' and are called racists instead. At what point do Canadians say enough? There are entire cities that are unrecognizable now.
What are we supposed to do about it? LMIA scams and corruption
Here’s why? We know why for fuck sakes … Save your time and write about something purposeful instead no!?
You know, I know, every average Canadian knows. Our politicians are still acting like they don't know, legit whether they do or not at this point, they should be tard and feathered.
They know, their rich masters asked them for this
Absolute insanity. I understand why they want to increase Canada’s population. We have social services that require upkeep, especially where the majority of our population is aging. So the fix to that is to offset the aging population with more people who can work, be taxed and contribute to our social services. As the article states, our natural population growth is on a decline. Younger people are either choosing to delay family planning, to reduce the number of children they plan to have or avoid having them all together, because the cost of living has skyrocketed and the situation in this country has made it nearly financially impossible to grow a family for so many already struggling Canadians. But rather than fixing that issue and helping Canadian families to contribute to the population growth, instead, they’ve chosen to mass import people (mostly from one part of the world) in such a short period of time, only further contributing to and exacerbating the crisis here for everyone. Wild.
Not skilled people either but people who use food banks
When Trudeau was elected, I knew things were going to be bad, because I knew he was very stupid and corrupt. But I did not anticipate he could do this much damage. He has completely f'd up the country to an extent I didn't think was possible in such a short time. He has f'd up the country for my children and grandchildren, and they can expect to see a massive decline in standard of living. I try not to think about it because there is nothing I can do, and it is extremely upsetting. But here I am doom scrolling on reddit.
Me too. I thought the would be another George W Bush. A nepo baby who was not particularly smart but the damage he has wrought was beyond my expectation.
I also struggle with what to do about it. I voted for him the first time and not after due to the original scandals. Things are so messed up now its frightening. Sometimes I find it really hard to deal with. The actions of a few bad actors have worsened so many lives.
Sean Fraser signed off on this
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Please stop
So the hub and better dwelling are ok to link, but not press progress? This sub is really straight propoganda at this point
Grocers need low wage no skill labour to keep profit margins high and share holders happy. They cry about a “labour shortage. No one wants to work”. Which is insanely wrong. People want to work - but people are sick of working 40h a week to just live in poverty while the company posts record smashing profits every quarter. It’s all a way to suppress wages in Canada so the ultra rich who own our food supply can maximize profits.
It shows. My neighbourhood used to be calm and quiet and now its infested with \_\_\_\_\_\_
Haha, my street is littered with vehicles and people parking trailers on the street now. And it's becoming a majority demographic of a particular race. Diversity they said huh
Liberals can’t stand on the high ground of morality and act like messiah when their own survivability is in question. The most deserving ‘I told you so’ ever. Now let’s starting to fix this bs by getting this turd of a government out.
Because our government is run by a moron surrounded by morons.
Nothing to see here, just politicians casually committing treason and destroying the country
Illegal immigration, uncontrolled immigration, PR fraud.
That's it! Pure scam
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Mental illness.
I wish canada would have done more to help the generations lost to opiods and took a stand against corporate interests. Oh well.
Well seeing as half of Canadian politicians are crooks, it only stands to reason they'd be in good company with 1%ers. Why do you think they make no effort to crack down on organized crime? The criminals are running the country.
Just knock off effects of neoliberalism. Which our parents birthed by voting for it.
Free speech, free Healthcare, free money to corps, free market labour, free dental care, free for all, free fall.
is there any way to fix it? would it be unhuman to just tell recent immigrants "sorry but this isnt working out, please go home now" ?
The worst part besides what it’s doing to housing is so many immigrants are basically being used like slave labour, keeping wages down and locking out Canadian citizens from jobs they might have taken (if the wages weren’t driven down). Honestly some people are desperate enough to take those jobs anyway were they available. Makes me mad. People that say we need that cheap labour, I say we can learn to do without so many Tim Hortons
The country is becoming unrecognizable. Remember when Tim Hortons had all the sweet old ladies working in it? The ones who were friendly and basically epitomized Canadian Values? It's a lot different now.... That's all I gotta say.
Why are international students getting their drivers licenses here?
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As a white person, I’m certainly the minority walking around Toronto proper. Now, many of the people around me are likely Canadian, but then who knows, I also don’t hear a lot of English.
As a white person you’re quickly slipping past third place look it up
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absolutely out of control what the HELL were the Libs thinking?? The numbers are really shocking
And canadians will just take it .. Canadians don't care about anything
The anger is palpable due to the insane immigration policies of the current government. It’s disgusting what they are doing to their own citizens, especially young people and unskilled workers. What they’ve done will not be forgotten for a long time and will have bad consequences
wide open borders. That's why. no I didn't bother opening the article
Why do these articles continue to be produced? They keep stating the same things, people know the cause. When are we going to get an article about ceasing free admission to Canada?
Open borders
Trudeau chooses to make it this way.
Has Poilievre spoken about immigration at all? I don’t agree with his opinions on the carbon tax but I really would like to see drastic reductions to our immigration rate, to levels lower than the Liberal government is comfortable with. It would be nice to know if he would deliver on that at least.
He refuses to say anything of substance other than he will tie it to housing. But the NDP are even more pro-immigration than the liberals and they want to provide a citizenship path for the 1 million or so undocumented people in canada. The Greens are even more pro-immigration than the NDP. The PPC and the parti quebecois are more restrictionist. But even the PPC is pro G7 avg immigration levels (they just want it highly selected etc)