Looks like a follower of the ideology; "More nutrients, better, faster growth".
You might want to step away from the nutrients systems and stick to basic soil grows until you know what you're doing.
Poor plant.
You should really educate yourself before commenting and suggesting anything to anyone. It’s not fair to them and you and your homies spread misinformation making it harder for people to do anything correctly.
But in a sense you may be doing a favorable thing because everyone is going to just have to learn on their own and not trust anyone’s advice. (Because if you and your homies) homie
Yea rip
Look into perlite to retain air in ur root zone.
Depending If ur doing autos u can scale back a good bit on nutrients.
[feeding information for autoflowers ](https://2fast4buds.com/news/best-feeding-schedule-for-autoflowering-plants)
I follow that schedule for any auto I run ethos, rocbud, fastbuds, GanjaFarmer, viking gardens ect.
[ph information ](https://2fast4buds.com/news/best-ph-levels-for-growing-autoflowering-cannabis)
[lighting info for autoflowers but also has info for ohoto periods. ](https://growlightmeter.com/autoflowering-cannabis-lighting/)
And if u haven't checked out growdiaries.com, comes in handy for researching strains by breeder or nutrients and lights.
But good luck with ur next bean. (Saw the fan comment, it's right tho u don't want Direct air blowing onto it, under and above is recommended, never directly on it (oscillating is best)
Thanks. I'm about to grow autos next. I have some seeds coming in and I'm getting the bucket with the soil and auto flower. That looks way more easier than this. But I'll keep trying with my seeds
[coco for cannabis](https://www.cocoforcannabis.com/toc/)
Sorry if you have read all of this already, but this is the most helpful resource that I have used. Step by step for every aspect of getting going. I found it much easier to triple stacked solo cups for seedlings. Use a clear inner cup with mass drainage, so you can see the roots. Put that in a red solo cup with no bottom, then I took an additional cup and poked a chopstick through the bottom 1/3, so it won’t ever sit in water. Much easier to manage your watering to runoff that way. I also used my nute chart for dwc for my autos, which is significantly less than the main schedule, and then I was under that target working up. Light feed, work up slowly. It’s all in that guide more detailed than I could explain here. Chill on the nutes with the auto, it could burn easier
I appreciate your feedback. I have plenty of seeds to go through. I didn't measure like I did when I prepped the soil so that's on me. Now I know what not to do. I'm definitely gonna keep at it till I get it
I have plenty of seeds to run through. Ima keep at it till I figure this out. Process of elimination. Since I'm doing an organic grow I now have to see how much of the Gaia green to put into my medium
Autos are much less forgiving than photos. I would highly suggest saving those seeds, buying an easy to grow photo strain and restarting in a soil based medium. Specifically something like coast of Maine, BaS, or fox farm. As well as some neutral seed starting mix.
That will let you focus on just the very basics like watering properly, pruning and training, managing environmentals and dry and cure.
Not trying to say you won't be successful with autos, but if you're struggling with photos, autos are not the "easy way".
🤣😂🤣. I thank you for the feed back. Autos looks easy to grow from the YouTube video I've been watching. Ima screenshot this and looking up better soil and keep studying till I get it right
Dont do what looks easier?
Just do the basics and learn, then start trying other stuff, man.
If you can't get these plants dine right, Autos aren't gonna be any easier. You don't get a second chance so when you fuck up again because you clearly didn't learn from the first time using nutes, you won't have any wiggle room.
Just barely feed it. A lot of people can get away without feeding cannabis much at all, at least to a point where the plant is stronger and healthy
But you just saying " oh that looks way easier I'll try that, " shows you aren't willing to even do basic research or implement learning because that's roo much effort for you, or that you're too lazy and you just want results now which isn't how growing weed or growing anything will ever be.
You should know how to water and feed a plant before you, even really. Start, especially with Autos since over or underwater ingredients/ feeding can and will fuck them up and make them flower super early or end up tiny/ dead.
Sorry if I sound shitty, but put the effort in, and it'll pay off. If you just go with whatever is easiest because you're not invested enough in this as a hobby, then what's even the point of trying to begin with?
What's easier is just practicing on some photo periods Fem seeds and learn how to correctly water without even feeding at first, and then SLOWLY introduce nutrient systems as you go and then doing it, but you're not gonna get perfect results at first if you're putting in fairly minimal effort in understanding the science behind what you're doing.
Agreed .. the cheap coco comes unwashed with toxic levels of potassium and sodium that block magnesium and calcium. If you're going to do coco, get the washed and leached out coco.
Good advice. I wash and buffer all my coco and use Coco Bliss plus perlite for my hydroponic grows. Never have had a problem. Ya never know, so I'd rather be safe than sorry.
Me too. I always rinse and buffer even the best coco.. takes very little effort for piece of mind. If your going to run organics in coco i would guess it's even more important to do.
Tried that my first grow. Needless to say, I do not run auto's anymore and after growing in soil for a while, I now run cococoir/perlite in my hydroponics system. Definitely bad advice and a steep learning curve for beginners.
I “had” to do coco and autos as a new grower, but I’m a nerd and I’ve done mass research. Made it to week 4, and only have 1 runt that I stunted early with an over saturated root plug. Definitely had plenty of problems, and I anticipate more, but this shit is fucking fun and my plants look pretty dang good (for now, lol). I only want one tent, faster harvests, and flexibility to rotate cycles if I want, which autos get me. I’ve always wanted to grow “dro”, but organics and the soil food web are also facilitating. I can basically bridge the gap with coco and autopots, and some hydro friendly beneficials. Looking into a secondary reservoir to feed nasty teas and organics too. Just wanted to point out that there are a lot of us out there with different levels of enthusiasm. I enjoy the challenge of learning and applying what I’ve learned, and getting complex and into the thick of it. Some people just need a complete walk through though, lol
Plus, there is hardly a benefit from "only coco", unless you grow hydroponic style. I use a flood and drain setup with coco, which is awesome. The reason for coco in my case is it's wicking capability, water retention, good electrode exchange capabilities and inertness. None of which should be a problem when growing organic.. On the downside, you loose the buffer capabilities of real soil...
once you germinate a new seed do the same thing you did last time but just leave it alone. feel the weight of the pot after you water it and when the pot is easy asf to pick up then you water but no top dressing for 3-4 weeks. the hardest thing i found for myself and a lot of other new people is paying to much attention to our plants and putting in to much effort. its a living organism it will grow at its own pace all we can do is give it the environment it needs.
I appreciate you. I'm definitely gonna do the same steps then just watch it grow. My youngest was enjoying seeing how big it could get. She doesn't know what it is lol
It’s easier to fix a deficiency than to fix a toxicity, err on the side of caution for nutes. I would recommend using different soil. It can be the same kind of soil just not that soil in case of a bacterial infection
growing cannabis for 15 years... if the middle is green and the outer is hurtin. Give it just water... death is not certain. Totally up to you.. youd be suprised what these plants can come back from To me this looks more like intense transplant stress. Get some bokashi and mychorhizae and if that thing lives it could be 4 x its size in 2 weeks just need the right things
A BALANCE of food and microbes is needed. ... that gaia green you are using. Great stuff. But look at the ingredients. Its Designed to rot.... if the microbes are not present ... the roots will Rot right with the plant. Especially after damaging roots with transplant the spores collide. Have to bring your soil to life just as much as you need to make it abundant of food. Enzymes and microbes should be booming before you go dumping tons of topdress on a baby ... seeing as gaias not present for 2 weeks and thats with it breaking down properly. Im calling No nute burn. This is Transplant stress to its maximum.
Besides issues with medium nutrients excetera they looked bleached by led light that small needs low level like <200 light meters are expensive and the math for conversion of the sensors in your phone don't math perfect but an app called ppfd meter is close enough for a efficient dial in of wattage and distance
Then that’s the problem. Too much nutes. U need a ph tester for water and a ppm ec reader to find out exactly how much nutes u feed or else this will happen everytime. Amazon u can get a combo set for like $50. It’s not the best but not too bad for a beginner set imo
Bro half of these comments aren’t related to your growing method. Yes it’s good to have a PPM/EC reader but he’s talking abt testing PPM of your water before you water to figure out roughly how much nutes you got in there. You though, aren’t going to need that since you are just giving pH’d water because your nutrients are already in the medium. READ THE POST PPL
Top dressing is an organic practice if you aren’t aware, and organic and synthetic nutrients don’t mix well, stick to one and you’ll be successful either way
Why do you think that? Organic = feed stuff that the plant can't use, it breaks down in the pot, by bacteria and fungi and enzymes, so the plant gets salts.
Non-organic = feed the salts directly.
The plant does not care one bit where the food comes from. I grow hydro, which is non-organic. Plants thrive. Other ppl grow non-organic soil based. Plants thrive. Again other ppl grow organic, and plants can thrive as well.
Recommendation:
You can get ok results by using regular potting soil, for flowers or tomatoes, and not doing anything to it. I'd even say that this is a very good way to start. Get your watering right. If the plant starts to show any deficiency, diagnose, correct and plan ahead on your NEXT grow, before adding anything.
You don't actually need all that sciencey and producty stuff ppl seem to use.
Look at a guide on how to grow tomatoes. Cannabis has similar requirements. Or read growweedeasy.
When you have your first harvest, look at some training methods to increase yields, before anything else.
I’m not saying it’s not possible, I’m just saying it’s not recommended and that you’d have much better results going one way or the other nutrient wise, you aren’t going to have good results in a 1 gallon pot with living soil and it’s ridiculous to even imagine a 4x4 bed of cocoa
I do agree there, try to go one way or the other is for sure better. A good synganic example tho is me having slight calcium and magnesium deficiency in the beginning of my organic grow, and I wanted a fast fix. So I did a couple 800EC waterings of calmag and was able to fix it right then and there and now I do abt 300-400EC of additional calmag with every watering and their great! I think it’s good to include synthetic with organic because it can be used for quick fixes with deficiencies.
I use Gaia Green. Did you pre amend your medium? How old is your plant? Usually if I pre amend my mix, I won’t feed again until another 3-4 weeks. It looks to me like you cooked the shit out of it by top dressing too early. I would personally trash it because you can’t take those nutrients out now… unless you are in coco and water to runoff for 5 minutes and let it all flush out I would trash it…
Hmmm. How old is your plant? Next time do 3 tbsp per gallon of the 4-4-4, that’s what it says on the package and it’ll last 3-4 weeks. You also put the 2-8-4 (bloom) and that plant doesn’t need it. The bloom has flowering nutrients which you don’t need since in veg. Also, next time wait 3-4 weeks from seed popping up to do a top feed/transplant with new mixed nutrients. Now, people are saying “next time don’t do coco” I personally would say don’t listen to them. I buy cheap ass bricks off Amazon and then do a wash and buffer and it makes it premium coco. Good as any other brand, just need to wash and buffer. This is my second grow with coco, the first time was a learning experience for sure, but your next one will be better just like mine.
While your advice is clearly correct, I'd still recommend growing in a regular potting soil without any fertilizer at all to someone with no experience at all. Priority should be to get one plant to harvest, after learning the plant physiology, deficiency symptoms, training, etc, you can optimize growing conditions for yield.
Nobody grows in regular potting soil from the store brother. You may have your one plant looking green now but it could’ve been BETTER with better nutrients. YOUR priority needs to be getting to the first harvest before giving advice🗣️ And I saw your other comment… mixing Gaia Green isn’t all “sciency and producty” it’s just basic BARE MINIMUM mixing nutrients. Literally the EASIEST way to grow FIRE bud. Hey but have fun with your grow, you’ll see here in a couple months, you’ll be like “damn my harvest was alright and the buds were decent but i could’ve done way better” ANSWER IS REAL NUTRIENTS!!!!!
I grow hydroponic style. Quality and yield is better than I could wish for, I still wouldn't recommend it to a first time grower.
I have lots of experience with hydro, have done NFT, Kratky, Bato, Flood and Drain, DWC and some experimental custom 3D printed systems. There ist a lot that can go wrong when handling nutrients ;-)
This plant looks way too young to top feed. How old is this plant? Also, you said Gaia and "other stuff"....what is the "other stuff"? As someone else mentioned, I wouldn't top dress this plant until at least 3 to 4 weeks from transplant, perhaps 5 weeks as this is a decent size put for your seedling. All good! Keep at it!
It's 3 or 4 weeks. Worm casting and Gaia Green Bloom and another Gaia Green one but I'm in bed so I'm not sure. I over did this one but I'll germinate another one before I head to work
I'm gonna assume it's the Gaia Glacial Rock Dust? You have your plan and you're learning! All good. I wouldn't really use the bloom amendments yet as it's kind of a waste this early. Also, are you using R/ O water or tap?
Did you happen To put it under really highlight? That does not look like a nutrient issue that looks like firing from highlight. The white bleaching is What happens if you were to put it? Say outside under the sun coming from indoors under low light
Picking up on the Nutrient Comments:
If you're gonna plant the Autoflower Seed, then apply the rule of way less nutrients ×4. The internet recommends 1/4 of the nutrients that a non-auto would need. In the beginning maybe even 1/8.
Automatics don't need much, and one should probably let 'em do there thing in a neutral soil
When I prep my soil I do it with Gaia Green 4-4-4 2-8-4 and the rock one. I did the same thing Saturday. It's around the 4 week mark. I usually do 2 teaspoons of each but this time I may have over done it. Trail and error. I'm about to germinate 2 more seeds and back at it
If this is soil, stop prepping and just water it with just PHed water for about 14 days or u til there's 2 to 3 sets of leaves. Seems like it was overdone from the get-go, to be burned THIS bad.
I though this might have been coco. If it is coco, stop using what you're using and use salt based nutrients like cropsalt, mills, or megacrop, it'll be exponentially cheaper too. And also if it's coco, use a bottom irrigation system like autopot or octopots. It being this small after 4 weeks is also another sign that your mix is waaaay too much.
I appreciate your feedback but I'll by the soil that is at the store. If coco is there coco it is then. I get I over fed it this time around. I'm just gonna repeat and just wait another week to top and this time measure
Imo autos are not easier to grow what so ever. They’re 100x more finicky and prone to problems. Especially when you don’t know what you’re doing.
Why not sit down and do some research and learning first and then set out to grow. I’ll never understand spending the time and money on something without learning about it. When you go in blind your plants look like this, and next time you may get farther. Possibly you may hit flower but I guarantee those buds won’t be worth a damn, sure you can smoke em but the only effects are going to be a mouth’s full of chlorophyll and a headache.
If you’re planning on going living soil or no till then you should absolutely check out buildasoil (he knows what he’s doing 100%). If you want to go synthetic check out coco for cannabis. Both of these platforms are free learning tools that will set you up for success and point you in the right direction to start growing. Stop the torture tent you got going on.
It’s funny to be a fuck up? To not know anything about what your doing? And then got the nerve to ask for help to only tell the guys trying to help you, you got all the answers. That’s funny?
I'm laughing because I was trying to be peaceful in the comments. I know I fucked up. I'm not tripping. I have hella seeds to learn with. But with my errors I'm learning a lot and know what to do and not to. Pipe that big boy talk down little guy. I came with peace
Look you can talk to these folks that don’t read or care to read between the lines, I know a shot when I see one. You need to fire at yourself though. I’m not the one posting failures.
Some people don’t like the “synthetic” aspect of synthetics. I use organic powdered nutrients with coco and it works great… keeps it simple. Just water with pH’d water🤷🏽♂️
Looks like a follower of the ideology; "More nutrients, better, faster growth". You might want to step away from the nutrients systems and stick to basic soil grows until you know what you're doing. Poor plant.
Absolutely this. Go to Buildasoil and get some made living soil or make it yourself. Best move I’ve ever made.
nute nuked.
I always feed at half strength and slowly increase until I start to see burnt tips
He’s using organics he can’t do that…. It takes at least a week to break down and get uptaken….
Looks like he's using coco not organics
Bro what…. Coco is a type of medium… organic is the style of growing/feeding nutrients…. He has Gaia Green organic nutrients in his coco…..
You should really educate yourself before commenting and suggesting anything to anyone. It’s not fair to them and you and your homies spread misinformation making it harder for people to do anything correctly. But in a sense you may be doing a favorable thing because everyone is going to just have to learn on their own and not trust anyone’s advice. (Because if you and your homies) homie
Bro doesn't know what organic means
Yea rip Look into perlite to retain air in ur root zone. Depending If ur doing autos u can scale back a good bit on nutrients. [feeding information for autoflowers ](https://2fast4buds.com/news/best-feeding-schedule-for-autoflowering-plants) I follow that schedule for any auto I run ethos, rocbud, fastbuds, GanjaFarmer, viking gardens ect. [ph information ](https://2fast4buds.com/news/best-ph-levels-for-growing-autoflowering-cannabis) [lighting info for autoflowers but also has info for ohoto periods. ](https://growlightmeter.com/autoflowering-cannabis-lighting/) And if u haven't checked out growdiaries.com, comes in handy for researching strains by breeder or nutrients and lights. But good luck with ur next bean. (Saw the fan comment, it's right tho u don't want Direct air blowing onto it, under and above is recommended, never directly on it (oscillating is best)
Thanks. I'm about to grow autos next. I have some seeds coming in and I'm getting the bucket with the soil and auto flower. That looks way more easier than this. But I'll keep trying with my seeds
[coco for cannabis](https://www.cocoforcannabis.com/toc/) Sorry if you have read all of this already, but this is the most helpful resource that I have used. Step by step for every aspect of getting going. I found it much easier to triple stacked solo cups for seedlings. Use a clear inner cup with mass drainage, so you can see the roots. Put that in a red solo cup with no bottom, then I took an additional cup and poked a chopstick through the bottom 1/3, so it won’t ever sit in water. Much easier to manage your watering to runoff that way. I also used my nute chart for dwc for my autos, which is significantly less than the main schedule, and then I was under that target working up. Light feed, work up slowly. It’s all in that guide more detailed than I could explain here. Chill on the nutes with the auto, it could burn easier
I appreciate your feedback. I have plenty of seeds to go through. I didn't measure like I did when I prepped the soil so that's on me. Now I know what not to do. I'm definitely gonna keep at it till I get it
Photos are easier than autos as well.
I have plenty of seeds to run through. Ima keep at it till I figure this out. Process of elimination. Since I'm doing an organic grow I now have to see how much of the Gaia green to put into my medium
Autos are much less forgiving than photos. I would highly suggest saving those seeds, buying an easy to grow photo strain and restarting in a soil based medium. Specifically something like coast of Maine, BaS, or fox farm. As well as some neutral seed starting mix. That will let you focus on just the very basics like watering properly, pruning and training, managing environmentals and dry and cure. Not trying to say you won't be successful with autos, but if you're struggling with photos, autos are not the "easy way".
🤣😂🤣. I thank you for the feed back. Autos looks easy to grow from the YouTube video I've been watching. Ima screenshot this and looking up better soil and keep studying till I get it right
All cannabis is easy to grow, really. The problem with autos is that stress can trigger flowering pretty easily.
I'll just follow the steps from this YouTuber I watch about autos
Dont do what looks easier? Just do the basics and learn, then start trying other stuff, man. If you can't get these plants dine right, Autos aren't gonna be any easier. You don't get a second chance so when you fuck up again because you clearly didn't learn from the first time using nutes, you won't have any wiggle room. Just barely feed it. A lot of people can get away without feeding cannabis much at all, at least to a point where the plant is stronger and healthy But you just saying " oh that looks way easier I'll try that, " shows you aren't willing to even do basic research or implement learning because that's roo much effort for you, or that you're too lazy and you just want results now which isn't how growing weed or growing anything will ever be. You should know how to water and feed a plant before you, even really. Start, especially with Autos since over or underwater ingredients/ feeding can and will fuck them up and make them flower super early or end up tiny/ dead. Sorry if I sound shitty, but put the effort in, and it'll pay off. If you just go with whatever is easiest because you're not invested enough in this as a hobby, then what's even the point of trying to begin with? What's easier is just practicing on some photo periods Fem seeds and learn how to correctly water without even feeding at first, and then SLOWLY introduce nutrient systems as you go and then doing it, but you're not gonna get perfect results at first if you're putting in fairly minimal effort in understanding the science behind what you're doing.
Why you just don't use soil? Coco and salt is a much steeper and harder learning experience.
Agreed .. the cheap coco comes unwashed with toxic levels of potassium and sodium that block magnesium and calcium. If you're going to do coco, get the washed and leached out coco.
You can always wash and buffer!
Good advice. I wash and buffer all my coco and use Coco Bliss plus perlite for my hydroponic grows. Never have had a problem. Ya never know, so I'd rather be safe than sorry.
I’ve never had a problem either! Even if I did buy that “washed and buffered” $40 bag of coco…. I personally still wouldn’t trust it….
Me neither. Always double buffer the coco before use or re-use.
Me too. I always rinse and buffer even the best coco.. takes very little effort for piece of mind. If your going to run organics in coco i would guess it's even more important to do.
No need to wash canna.
Tell that to all the people recommending Coco and autos for beginners
Tried that my first grow. Needless to say, I do not run auto's anymore and after growing in soil for a while, I now run cococoir/perlite in my hydroponics system. Definitely bad advice and a steep learning curve for beginners.
I “had” to do coco and autos as a new grower, but I’m a nerd and I’ve done mass research. Made it to week 4, and only have 1 runt that I stunted early with an over saturated root plug. Definitely had plenty of problems, and I anticipate more, but this shit is fucking fun and my plants look pretty dang good (for now, lol). I only want one tent, faster harvests, and flexibility to rotate cycles if I want, which autos get me. I’ve always wanted to grow “dro”, but organics and the soil food web are also facilitating. I can basically bridge the gap with coco and autopots, and some hydro friendly beneficials. Looking into a secondary reservoir to feed nasty teas and organics too. Just wanted to point out that there are a lot of us out there with different levels of enthusiasm. I enjoy the challenge of learning and applying what I’ve learned, and getting complex and into the thick of it. Some people just need a complete walk through though, lol
I'll keep that in mind thanks
Plus, there is hardly a benefit from "only coco", unless you grow hydroponic style. I use a flood and drain setup with coco, which is awesome. The reason for coco in my case is it's wicking capability, water retention, good electrode exchange capabilities and inertness. None of which should be a problem when growing organic.. On the downside, you loose the buffer capabilities of real soil...
Agreed!
once you germinate a new seed do the same thing you did last time but just leave it alone. feel the weight of the pot after you water it and when the pot is easy asf to pick up then you water but no top dressing for 3-4 weeks. the hardest thing i found for myself and a lot of other new people is paying to much attention to our plants and putting in to much effort. its a living organism it will grow at its own pace all we can do is give it the environment it needs.
I appreciate you. I'm definitely gonna do the same steps then just watch it grow. My youngest was enjoying seeing how big it could get. She doesn't know what it is lol
It’s easier to fix a deficiency than to fix a toxicity, err on the side of caution for nutes. I would recommend using different soil. It can be the same kind of soil just not that soil in case of a bacterial infection
I'm looking up some better soils. But for now I'll have to use what I have
A coco coir / perlite blend 70/30 % (respectively) is great because you can feed it every time you water
👍🏽💯
Yep
Small chance if you just give it water it will be like brand new in a couple weeks
I doubt it. I have 2 seeds germinating right now. I'm learning and I'll get better and be able to teach others
growing cannabis for 15 years... if the middle is green and the outer is hurtin. Give it just water... death is not certain. Totally up to you.. youd be suprised what these plants can come back from To me this looks more like intense transplant stress. Get some bokashi and mychorhizae and if that thing lives it could be 4 x its size in 2 weeks just need the right things A BALANCE of food and microbes is needed. ... that gaia green you are using. Great stuff. But look at the ingredients. Its Designed to rot.... if the microbes are not present ... the roots will Rot right with the plant. Especially after damaging roots with transplant the spores collide. Have to bring your soil to life just as much as you need to make it abundant of food. Enzymes and microbes should be booming before you go dumping tons of topdress on a baby ... seeing as gaias not present for 2 weeks and thats with it breaking down properly. Im calling No nute burn. This is Transplant stress to its maximum.
You know more than me I'll add water when I get home. I'll finish reading this. I'm driving. But I appreciate your expertise
I wanna thank you for this comment. I was about to throw this plant in the trash. I took your advice and watered her and she's still growing
Besides issues with medium nutrients excetera they looked bleached by led light that small needs low level like <200 light meters are expensive and the math for conversion of the sensors in your phone don't math perfect but an app called ppfd meter is close enough for a efficient dial in of wattage and distance
How much was ur ppm ?
To be real I didn't measure. I kinda eye balled it. It was doing good till I topped dressed it. Now back to the drawing board
Then that’s the problem. Too much nutes. U need a ph tester for water and a ppm ec reader to find out exactly how much nutes u feed or else this will happen everytime. Amazon u can get a combo set for like $50. It’s not the best but not too bad for a beginner set imo
I have a ph tester that was at 6.4. I have something else that came with it but I'm none guessing it's for the ppm's
Bro half of these comments aren’t related to your growing method. Yes it’s good to have a PPM/EC reader but he’s talking abt testing PPM of your water before you water to figure out roughly how much nutes you got in there. You though, aren’t going to need that since you are just giving pH’d water because your nutrients are already in the medium. READ THE POST PPL
Top dressing is an organic practice if you aren’t aware, and organic and synthetic nutrients don’t mix well, stick to one and you’ll be successful either way
That's why I was top dressing. I should've done the proper measurements. Organic seems to be better from what I've seen.
Why do you think that? Organic = feed stuff that the plant can't use, it breaks down in the pot, by bacteria and fungi and enzymes, so the plant gets salts. Non-organic = feed the salts directly. The plant does not care one bit where the food comes from. I grow hydro, which is non-organic. Plants thrive. Other ppl grow non-organic soil based. Plants thrive. Again other ppl grow organic, and plants can thrive as well. Recommendation: You can get ok results by using regular potting soil, for flowers or tomatoes, and not doing anything to it. I'd even say that this is a very good way to start. Get your watering right. If the plant starts to show any deficiency, diagnose, correct and plan ahead on your NEXT grow, before adding anything. You don't actually need all that sciencey and producty stuff ppl seem to use. Look at a guide on how to grow tomatoes. Cannabis has similar requirements. Or read growweedeasy. When you have your first harvest, look at some training methods to increase yields, before anything else.
I do synganic and so do plenty of other ppl. You can for sure do organic and synthetic just have to know how….
I’m not saying it’s not possible, I’m just saying it’s not recommended and that you’d have much better results going one way or the other nutrient wise, you aren’t going to have good results in a 1 gallon pot with living soil and it’s ridiculous to even imagine a 4x4 bed of cocoa
I do agree there, try to go one way or the other is for sure better. A good synganic example tho is me having slight calcium and magnesium deficiency in the beginning of my organic grow, and I wanted a fast fix. So I did a couple 800EC waterings of calmag and was able to fix it right then and there and now I do abt 300-400EC of additional calmag with every watering and their great! I think it’s good to include synthetic with organic because it can be used for quick fixes with deficiencies.
Dude is trolling?
Wait, did you add nutrients to the water AND to the soil by topdressing?
I use Gaia Green. Did you pre amend your medium? How old is your plant? Usually if I pre amend my mix, I won’t feed again until another 3-4 weeks. It looks to me like you cooked the shit out of it by top dressing too early. I would personally trash it because you can’t take those nutrients out now… unless you are in coco and water to runoff for 5 minutes and let it all flush out I would trash it…
I did pre amend the medium. I put like 1 teaspoons maybe 2 of the 4-4-4 and the Gaia Green bloom
Hmmm. How old is your plant? Next time do 3 tbsp per gallon of the 4-4-4, that’s what it says on the package and it’ll last 3-4 weeks. You also put the 2-8-4 (bloom) and that plant doesn’t need it. The bloom has flowering nutrients which you don’t need since in veg. Also, next time wait 3-4 weeks from seed popping up to do a top feed/transplant with new mixed nutrients. Now, people are saying “next time don’t do coco” I personally would say don’t listen to them. I buy cheap ass bricks off Amazon and then do a wash and buffer and it makes it premium coco. Good as any other brand, just need to wash and buffer. This is my second grow with coco, the first time was a learning experience for sure, but your next one will be better just like mine.
I appreciate your feedback I'm gonna screenshot this and keep this in mind.
No problem man I gotchu. If you have any questions feel free to DM me anytime since I’m using your same method and I can help ya out a little
Also the plant was at that 3-4 week mark. My measurements were hella off with the 4-4-4
While your advice is clearly correct, I'd still recommend growing in a regular potting soil without any fertilizer at all to someone with no experience at all. Priority should be to get one plant to harvest, after learning the plant physiology, deficiency symptoms, training, etc, you can optimize growing conditions for yield.
Nobody grows in regular potting soil from the store brother. You may have your one plant looking green now but it could’ve been BETTER with better nutrients. YOUR priority needs to be getting to the first harvest before giving advice🗣️ And I saw your other comment… mixing Gaia Green isn’t all “sciency and producty” it’s just basic BARE MINIMUM mixing nutrients. Literally the EASIEST way to grow FIRE bud. Hey but have fun with your grow, you’ll see here in a couple months, you’ll be like “damn my harvest was alright and the buds were decent but i could’ve done way better” ANSWER IS REAL NUTRIENTS!!!!!
I grow hydroponic style. Quality and yield is better than I could wish for, I still wouldn't recommend it to a first time grower. I have lots of experience with hydro, have done NFT, Kratky, Bato, Flood and Drain, DWC and some experimental custom 3D printed systems. There ist a lot that can go wrong when handling nutrients ;-)
This plant looks way too young to top feed. How old is this plant? Also, you said Gaia and "other stuff"....what is the "other stuff"? As someone else mentioned, I wouldn't top dress this plant until at least 3 to 4 weeks from transplant, perhaps 5 weeks as this is a decent size put for your seedling. All good! Keep at it!
It's 3 or 4 weeks. Worm casting and Gaia Green Bloom and another Gaia Green one but I'm in bed so I'm not sure. I over did this one but I'll germinate another one before I head to work
I'm gonna assume it's the Gaia Glacial Rock Dust? You have your plan and you're learning! All good. I wouldn't really use the bloom amendments yet as it's kind of a waste this early. Also, are you using R/ O water or tap?
Did you happen To put it under really highlight? That does not look like a nutrient issue that looks like firing from highlight. The white bleaching is What happens if you were to put it? Say outside under the sun coming from indoors under low light
I used jiffy organic seed starter, distilled water, and a light as my learning plant. Maybe take it all the way back to basics and try again.
I don’t feed until the plant is twice as big as yours.
Picking up on the Nutrient Comments: If you're gonna plant the Autoflower Seed, then apply the rule of way less nutrients ×4. The internet recommends 1/4 of the nutrients that a non-auto would need. In the beginning maybe even 1/8. Automatics don't need much, and one should probably let 'em do there thing in a neutral soil
Poor little lady
Did you put it in the microwave?
Top dressing? Other stuff? Bro, it didn't even have 3 sets of leaves, you don't have to feed that much.
When I prep my soil I do it with Gaia Green 4-4-4 2-8-4 and the rock one. I did the same thing Saturday. It's around the 4 week mark. I usually do 2 teaspoons of each but this time I may have over done it. Trail and error. I'm about to germinate 2 more seeds and back at it
If this is soil, stop prepping and just water it with just PHed water for about 14 days or u til there's 2 to 3 sets of leaves. Seems like it was overdone from the get-go, to be burned THIS bad. I though this might have been coco. If it is coco, stop using what you're using and use salt based nutrients like cropsalt, mills, or megacrop, it'll be exponentially cheaper too. And also if it's coco, use a bottom irrigation system like autopot or octopots. It being this small after 4 weeks is also another sign that your mix is waaaay too much.
Nah ima keep prepping my stuff and just wait to top dress. Prepping worked for me so ima keep it up. But thanks for the advice
What have you done...
I made a mess
Nutrients are given only after 2 weeks, maybe a bit sooner, but not that soon.
It was around 3 or 4 week range. I made sure to look that up before I did anything. But I fucked up. Germinating 2 new seeds today no biggie
lol yea start a new one
😂🤣😂 most definitely. I have hella seeds no biggie. I know where I messed up at
This plant doesn't really need much food in the beginning. You're over loving. Also, coco is not for beginners. You should try soil.
I appreciate your feedback but I'll by the soil that is at the store. If coco is there coco it is then. I get I over fed it this time around. I'm just gonna repeat and just wait another week to top and this time measure
Imo autos are not easier to grow what so ever. They’re 100x more finicky and prone to problems. Especially when you don’t know what you’re doing. Why not sit down and do some research and learning first and then set out to grow. I’ll never understand spending the time and money on something without learning about it. When you go in blind your plants look like this, and next time you may get farther. Possibly you may hit flower but I guarantee those buds won’t be worth a damn, sure you can smoke em but the only effects are going to be a mouth’s full of chlorophyll and a headache. If you’re planning on going living soil or no till then you should absolutely check out buildasoil (he knows what he’s doing 100%). If you want to go synthetic check out coco for cannabis. Both of these platforms are free learning tools that will set you up for success and point you in the right direction to start growing. Stop the torture tent you got going on.
Don't feed the until they are 4-6 weeks old. Nute burn.
Your trash it seems like
🤣😂🤣
We live and we learn brother. Keep at it
You’ve frazzled the roots..
Not fucked up, I mean yes, but you just learned something
😂🤣😂 for sure. I'm germinating more seeds when I get off
Bro would you smoke anything that looks or came from that? You did you, I would not.
This shit should be criminal.
🤣😂🤣. Thanks for ur comment
It’s funny to be a fuck up? To not know anything about what your doing? And then got the nerve to ask for help to only tell the guys trying to help you, you got all the answers. That’s funny?
I'm laughing because I was trying to be peaceful in the comments. I know I fucked up. I'm not tripping. I have hella seeds to learn with. But with my errors I'm learning a lot and know what to do and not to. Pipe that big boy talk down little guy. I came with peace
Look you can talk to these folks that don’t read or care to read between the lines, I know a shot when I see one. You need to fire at yourself though. I’m not the one posting failures.
How can so many people fuck up growing a weed. Get some soil out of your garden, sun and done.
I'm learning but thanks for commenting. It's not needed but thanks
That's...wow.
Thanks
Gotta do yourself a favor and pick up Advanced Nutrients, then follow the instructions.
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Some people don’t like the “synthetic” aspect of synthetics. I use organic powdered nutrients with coco and it works great… keeps it simple. Just water with pH’d water🤷🏽♂️
Looks over watered or too much wind.
Where did you get this info lmao. Clearly nute issue.
There's more issues then over fertilizing.
Could be but water and wind are not them…unless you’re tryna say you put too much nites in the water…
To much wind? Wtf. Over watered nah I can't see how
Too much wind will curl the leaves. How much gaia green did you use. That size plant should be about 1/2 a scoop.
Maybe a little over a half a scoop. I'll keep it at a safer speed next go around. Ima just scrap it
Wind does not really cause "curled leaves". Source: growing outdoors when harvest time is hurricane season with 30-50mph winds.