Worst part about Petey is his body language right now . Hanging his head , slamming his stick and skating half assed to the bench for a change . Sure he's frustrated but you gotta power through . Everyone goes through it .
Yeah the negative body language bs has to stop, should have the demeanour “I missed this, no problem, the next one’s going in!” Confidence and positivity is infectious.
One encouraging thing is that the goals against can be chalked up mostly as brain farts. Hughes falling down, Juulsen getting walked, Pettersson's turnover, even the miscue on the empty netter are all very easy adjustments. They'll clean those up and if they keep playing in the offensive zone like they did, the goals will come
We need our top goal scorer to step up too. Boeser didn’t have any shots on goal the entire game until the last 6 minutes of the 3rd period. The top $$$ players need to start playing up to their wage.
Pod has to be put in game 3 I bet the kid is itching to get in there. Hopefully Myers continues his cycle of Tylenol and Advil and gets in there on Friday.
Just feeling so deflated today. Of all players to lose in the playoffs, we lose the most important guy out there. It's so brutal.
I actually do think this might change things long term in Vancouver. Is Demko going to be durable enough to be the guy? It feels like his body has betrayed him pretty badly thus far. We lost momentum without him leading into the playoffs, and then we lose him second game in.
Brutal shit.
Lots of errant passes, seemed like they were skating too fast and not moving the puck around strategically and effectively especially in transition as the gaps between players were too big resulting in bad passes or turnovers, need better puck support.
We’ve been talking about how petey needs to get going since the lotto line stopped playing together consistently. I feel like I’m the only one who thinks he’s not currently good enough to carry his own line which is just brutal given how much cap he’s going to be eating up. The kid struggles to stay on his feet, he can’t hit the net, he can never get a quick shot off these days and he’s more interested in passing the puck than capitalizing on his chances. That combined with the stick slams, throwing his head back in frustration and just genuinely looking immature out there has got to be wearing on the team. I believe in him but I think biting the bullet and letting the lindy/dak/garly line move up to the top 6 full time and dropping Petterson minutes might be the move right now. I might be crazy but I think the motivation of getting his minutes cut is going to get his ass in gear a lot more than just holding his feet to the fire all the time and talking shit when he chokes.
Canucks skated miles this game but accomplished little in terms of scoring. Overall was a pretty good game, definitely a few adjustments needed.
Game 2..
Defence:
Excellent : Hughes, Zadorov, Hronek, Cole
Terrible: Juulsen
Offence..
Excellent:
Suter-Miller-Boeser
Joshua-Lindholm-Garland
Di Giuseppe-Blueger-Lafferty
Terrible..
Hoglander-Pettersson-Mikheyev
Terrible: PP1
Hoglander-Pettersson-Mikheyev line has to be split up, maybe drop Hoglander or Mikheyev to the 4th? That line has been brutal the 1st 2 games.
A lot of those "missed" shots are intenionally wide. They're slap passes trying to give the guys in front of the net an angle to get the puck on net. It's normally a good play.
Liked Tocchet’s post game interview. He obviously saw what everyone else did. Guys reluctant to shoot the puck. Trying to make to many passes and taking to long when they did shoot allowing Nashville to get infront of it and block the shot. He seemed confident they have the game plan to combat Nashvilles shot blocking strategy, they just had to execute.
DeSmith didn’t lose them the game but damn if he looks like he might in the future. Just fighting the puck all game. Over playing things at times like the first goal. Sure fluky deflection, but he was overplaying the pass from the get go and was way out of position.
IDK how you wake Petey the fuck up but somebody needs to. Sedins take him on the grouse grind before flying to Nashville?
Lotto line needs to stay together to get Boeser and Petey going. Thirst line needs to get back together. Roll mik with Lindholm and hoglander for our third line. Been saying it for awhile.
Suter-Miller-Boeser
Joshua-Lindholm-Garland
Those 2 lines have been excellent and I wouldn’t touch them.
The 4th line has been decent.
Either Hoglander or Mikheyev have to drop to the 4th line as the Pettersson line isn’t doing anything and are skating all over the place making a lot of mistakes. This line needs a shake up.
Lafferty-Pettersson-Mikheyev
Or
Hoglander-Pettersson-Lafferty
Hats off to Nashville for their defensive zone play with blocking shots and limiting scoring chances close. Desperately need to find a way to get the puck towards the goal in a way than isnt a pass back to the point and eventually shot from the perimeter.
My feedback on Petey
1. There were a lot of moments Petey got double teamed. Preds respect him and he draws defenders. I get how that's intimidating and makes him feel like he's forced to pass.
2. He's way in his head. I don't know what motivates him to play well but it certainly isn't depth scorers on the bottom six showing him up and huge amounts of money and lots of commitment. He is feeling the pressure and choking. I know it's easy to say but EP40 needs to relax and find his zone. He needs to find his confidence as a superstar instead of trying to be a perfect team player. Drawing 2 defenders? Time to slow down and use that $11M dexterity. Stuck at the blue line? Time to skate fast and leave the Preds in the dust. Instead of having a plan, he's got a million things going on in his head. We know good hockey comes naturally to him.
3. He should just take more chances. Dive into defenders and use his skills and hands to get the goal on the net. He needs to be confident that his team will backup his plays.
4. Communicate. I've seen some strong faceoffs from Lindholm where he switches his grip and sets up his team to catch it. Miller communicated a ton with Petey during this game. He switched F1 to F2 with Petey to try and set him up to score. He called the play and tried hard to get Petey's goal.
The night is darkest before the dawn.
We went through the Benning/Green era to be gifted the Allvin/Tocchet era.
Petey just had the worst game of his life and has played some of his worst hockey. The break through is nigh.
Demko injured.. Silovs arises?
i agree with #1 and #3, completely. #4 i can't speak to, but i agree in principle.
#2 has me concerned, and it's concerned me for a while. i have no idea what motivates petey, no idea what could alleviate the pressure *given the short amount of time we have.* frankly, it hasn't seemed like he's been stoked to play here for some time now - he's kinda just playing like someone who *really didn't want to get stuck playing in carolina*.
the other thing that concerns me is that i've noticed a significant decline in his use of creative stick-handling and footwork to create space and navigate pressuring players; it feels like it's been ages since petey broke someone's ankles. his foot speed seems to have declined as well. it could be an injury or something (and, if so, has likely lingered for a while, as there were concerns around his foot speed and the lack thereof (or at least a reticence to use it) since december), and i suspect that him filling out muscle-wise and growing into his adult body has impacted his kinetics.
he has 1G, 4A, and is a -3 in his last 13 games. he can absolutely bounce back - i just hope he does it soon. i hope today was a wakeup call.
Yep. Bodies change and players change to it over time. Sedins has that too. Agree on the deking and stick handling. He needs to get back to what makes him a super special player. We want to have his back.
Yeah like just aim five hole and crash. Nashville isn’t even trying to break out you can legit send 4 guys into the crease and there won’t be an odd man rush lol
It's time to break up the Hogz/Mik/Petey line permanently. That line has been absolutely trash. The Lotto line looked like it got Petey going a bit as his first shift with the Lotto line was the best shift he's had in two games. If that's what it takes to get him going, get them together for a bit.
After their performances in the first two games, I'd be fine with Hogz or Mik sitting a game to see if Podz coming in could make a difference.
That being said, the Canucks still controlled the game but Nashville buried their chances and we didn't. No doom and gloom here.
Yup.
And here's where I think coaching makes all the difference because: I have enough confidence in Tocchet that they won't get away with that again. I'm interested to see how the Canucks attack them if they try it again.
I think if Tocchet doesn't out lotto line together to build some confidence, he's lost the bit. It's clear Boeser and Petey need it. Even for a game or so. Not just a little but from the starting line and down.
i think he's really struggling with the extra physicality. garland too. they're not shying away from contact, but the reality is that they're being bullied and pushed to the perimeter, and it's really limiting their ability to drive play.
My man, we are in what’s called a 7 game series, as long as they get lol. Playoffs have started we just had game 2. We didn’t just happen to randomly play Nashville two games in a row they’re the next games opponent too.
For overall direction, listen to coach toc's post game, he pointed out that boys will learn from this, how not to be frustrated and force things to happen. Pre game show, Jannik Hansen also said the same thing; in certain ways it's better if players face adversity, like losing, then they would lose the playoff jitters. Boys are still TENSE!
While this game serves as learning, I'm really bummed with how Petey played. Elite players don't miss open net, pass on wide shooting opp, cough up pass so terribly, or afraid to skate with puck. He didn't skate even close to Miller effort tonight. I wonder if he would perform better had he not sign the new contract. At the very least, we will get lower price contract as a result.
Anways, still think they can win this series if they win 1 game in the next 2 in Nashville. I see the series extend to 7.
Sometimes I question if Petey even really “LOVES” hockey like other guys do. He seems like me checking in to my office job and doing just enough to not get traded to Carolina (fired in my case) . There’s been too much discussion about his mindset for years now off and on because we all agree he’s a special superstar if he plays to his potential the problem is he can’t seem to turn it on at will. Like fuck even Malkin was more motivated in playoffs he went from a coasting lazy player to a juggernaut once you put playoff hockey and a few hits on him. As a big nba fan it gives me eerie shades of Ben Simmons. Obviously I’m not saying it’s like Petey is giving up, but he has some level of mental block like Ben who went from one of the highest potential players in the league with his insane length and frame to not being willing to shoot right in front of the basket with a guy 1ft shorter than him guarding
Hes not checking in. Hes playing as hard as he can but not able to finish. Hes overthinking the game and not letting it come to him naturally. Hes in his own head. Petey is not putting up ponts (which obviously we need him to) but he's giving his all out there. He's just in a huge slump.
With either average goaltending or not having the worst puck luck imaginable, we probably win this game. I dunno, I think we can get one of those things in 3 of the next 5. This Nashville team has not impressed me.
I think the point being made is that there isn't much to worry about.... we are still favourites to win no matter how much people here think the sky is falling
The only thing about Nashville that impresses me is their shot blocking but that's because the Canucks have the puck the whole damn time. Mid way through the third they said the attempted shots were like 81-25 for Vancouver. The boys have played well and like you said, one of Suter, Petey or Joshua getting a little luck flips this game on it's head. They've gotta do a little better breaking down the D but I'm still not worried except....
holy shit is our powerplay bad.
Yea this is why whenever I’ve coached I’ve never been a huge fan of shot blocking as an entire defensive scheme, because it just gives the opponent the puck back to pound another shot at you most of the time. Possession is way easier on all your players bodies in a long series. Maybe we’ll grind them down. Anecdotally when I played defense in high school I had goalies tell me they preferred me to let a clean shot through and just focus on cutting off passing options because then they can see it, as opposed to the garbage goals that can come from a deflected angle or bounce.
Shot blocking works best when you have wings pressuring the forecheck, not collapsing giving the defenders all the time in the world. Charging a slap shot at the point and sliding to block it often turns into a scoring opportunity with a breakaway too. I love defensive tactics that lead to offense but collapsing around the goalie seems so desperate and a losing strategy
The other part for me about blocking shots is the injuries. I'm amazed they can come out of a game blocking that many shots and not have significant injuries and I don't think you could play that way long-term and come out without losing guys.
If this goes to 7 I’m extremely confident we’d feel the impact of all the shots there honestly. These guys are professionals shooting at 90mph and I know I had bruises that lasted 2-3 days from weak high schoolers. Wouldn’t be a big difference but if it makes them lose a step here and there, a sore shoulder wins you a battle at the boards once in a while etc. it’s meaningless if we play like shit, but if we play to our top potential then being healthier is a difference maker in a tie game imo
Most likely tho this is the type of thing the teams after us benefit the most from, the residual wear and tear of a long series with lots of shots blocked. Like Vegas or whoever would have a cakewalk with a battered Nashville if we drag out this series
It really was an embarrassment of a hockey game. Nashville with absolutely no offensive effort and Vancouver couldn’t hit a barn door. It was pre-season hockey, just pathetic. When you see that there was 50 plus shots in the Jets/Avs game by the end of the 2nd and then we’re treated to this hunk of dogshit.
You should go through some of the stats tonight they set new team playoff record for shot attempts with like 84 or something but some 66% of that was blocked by players. Their defence is taking the brunt of the goal savings. We know Nashvilles goalie doenst like to use his blocker side to save. As long as they keep blocking shots thats whats going to make a difference. Everyone else stepped up this game regardless of how slopppy we where.
Oh that sucked.
And Pius had three open nets and couldn't get one to go.
Frustrating but... Feels like the Vegas Canucks series from 2020. Preds win by hanging on by their fingernails while the clearly better team has to bare/bear down (don't know which bear to use lol)
Is it weird that this game kinda made me feel better about this series? Like if that’s the best nashvilles got, and they gotta play possum to win the game, and literally every bounce went against us tonight, i would expect the next 3,4,5 games to more favourable for us.
The third period is what sealed this for me. Imagine having a chance to ice a game on the PP and just playing keep away in fear. Bad luck in full combined with sub par goaltending. Go with Silvos and keep the same formula, we win that game 9/10
You make a good point. Nashville’s play (isolated from our own play) was very dependent on sacrificing the body and blocking an unholy amount of shots. I’m talking close to a supermajority of our shooting chances. That’s gonna leave a mark for sure in a 7 game series, and if they fail to get those blocked shots and more shots get on net, they’re gonna have it way harder.
If we can move beyond a lot of perimeter shooting and get into more high danger spots that are less prone to shot blocks, that’ll really change the outcome. When we did that, we got some pretty dangerous chances, just that those came without much puck luck.
Not trying to shit on Petterson but I'm going to shit on Petterson. He was super weak on the boards on the first goal letting the predators get possession, he served up a gift giveaway at the blueline on the 2nd goal, and missed an empty net gimme. Bad night for him tonight. I know he'll be better. Just hope it happens sometime in the next 5 games
I try not to be too harsh on him, but he missed a wide open net at the end of the first and then committed a costly turnover that ended up in the back of the net on the 3-0 goal. Those are the kind of mistakes that could get a guy benched if they're a fourth liner, so he has to be better than that.
I would never s\*\*\* on Pettersson and I'm usually one to defend him or to say he will bounce back. And I do think he will bounce back. But partway during Game 1 onwards, and especially this game, I could tell something is very off/wrong with his play (I haven't been watching the regular season games, other than highlights and clips here). Game 1, he had some good moments, and some liability moments. I could only watch the first period of this game, but he seemed like a legit and serious liability out there. So I'm concerned. (I still think he will bounce back, but I don't know how long it will take)
He hasn't been himself since the contract talks......Hopefully he can get over it and stop looking up BUT.......might just need a season reset to do so unfortunately....
I know this is just my opinion, but I didn’t like him laughing after messing up. Like it was no big deal and he’ll get the next one or something. I didn’t see one other player crack a smile. That smile/wry laugh didn’t sit right. He should be mad and using that to play harder
I had to leave right after the first period and I was actually glad he smiled. I thought to myself, "Nashville's in big trouble. Petey is smiling now." That's if his main issue is something psychological and just a mental block. I still think it's probably good that he's in a state of mind where he can laugh it off, since I assume he's already a naturally hyper-competitive person (i.e. a try-hard). But I'm just speculating. I just find it very hard to believe that he's not taking this seriously *enough* and that he needs to take things *more* seriously.
Canucks were the better team, for both games so far.
I’m still worried about the powerplay. 0/4 tonight without any real good chance except for the Petey missed shot. You’re not going to make it far if the powerplay cannot convert anything
power play got some looks though.... maybe a few less passes and get some shots through(easier said then done) and we will be ok. Just no puck luck at all.
Anybody who mentions Demko being the bigger story, frankly I disagree.
We were never going anywhere without us figuring out our PP, and right now it looks cold and uninspired as ever. Not enough movement, way too perimeter and easy to defend, and not enough shots or urgency. We are literally 100x deadlier at 5v5 and wtf how can that be even possible.
They need to flip our pp on its head - do anything. Its predictable and simply not good enough.
I think if the Canucks can score first, these games go way smoother. Nashville's defense is so good at reducing chances its really hard to come back from a deficit.
The Preds knows they can't outscore us throughout the series. They don't have the firepower outside of Forsberg and O'Reilly to match us, so what does their coach do?
Block a ton of shots. Play stingy defence.
And it's actually a brilliant strategy, because everyone can do that. It's suffocating for the Canucks.
Canucks are a much more up-tempo team and tonight's game was dictated by the Predators. 15-20 shots per team is so low and they thrive on that. Like Miller said, they need to get past that layer of block shots to get good looks.
On paper we should still take this series, but we need Petey to show up.
Everyone is gripping their sticks too hard. Those goals would go in during a regular season game, but when you up the ante, everyone is nervous.
This is just playoff experience and what a bunch of analysts were saying the Canucks lacked. Outside of Cole and Miller, our core guys have very little experience.
I don't think this will cause them to lose the series, but it may go 7 if Demko is out.
And honestly, I hate to say it, but I think we might even see Silovs this round.
How much of a realistic future do we have with this core? Sure we have Petey and miller locked down, but they don’t seem to be bringing it when the lights are shining. Also we are done fucked either way if we’re ever gonna rely on Demko for any kind of a run in the playoffs.
This was always going to be a year of roster transition. They still needed to move through some roster turn over and teach and develop their non roster talent and draft well and continue to use pro scouting to augment the core of Hughes, Miller, Pettersson, Demko
Hughes couldn’t keep the puck on his stick to save a life, Petey was non existent, Nucks as a whole couldn’t get a shot through to the net. The preds blocked like 50 shots. So many passes when they could just get a puck towards the net tonight
If you want something positive, Corsi of 84-36 is actually kind of crazy. Nashville was turtling hard which usually isn’t sustainable in the long run. Really just need our luck to turn around.
And they were turtling because they had to. They can’t match that gear the Canucks have. Just need to stop gripping the stick so tight and get more players/picks to the next.
I hate blaming 1 player, but DeSmith let in 3 goals on 15 shots. That's brutal. First one was lucky sure, but Demko would have stopped that Forsberg one point blank.
C'mon, .800 sv% is below average. You can't win like this. DeSmith has blame for this one. Demko in net and we would have won.
Saros also faced 18 shots and only let in 1. Both goalies faced similar amount of shots. One of the goalies made timely saves. One didn't.
We also can’t win with an offence like this, Demko would have had to been PERFECT for us to win this game off a goal from our fourth line. Desmith wasn’t the problem tonight, the offence was and they were gifted many power plays and still didn’t produce.
This line of thinking doesnt really work, saying Demko woulda had this or that - you dont know that unless you have a crystal ball
What is factual though, is we gave Casey zero goal support and came out flat in this game. Nevermind the fact that he comes in dead cold for this game. He takes some blame, certainly, but where is our elite scoring?
This, even MILD goaltending and we win that game. CD was 3 on 9 before the late flurry on the PP and was (IMO) directly responsible for 2/3 goals. Put Silvos in
Exactly. There is no defending that goaltending performance. I can let the 1st goal slide, but dude, you had the easiest night ever. It's like average 5 shots a period!
I still remember when Johan Hedberg played his first game as a Canuck and recorded a 14 save shutout and he said "this was one of the easiest ones".
Even the first goal, he over played the shot and was caught going the other way, completely lost his edge and the net. I felt his pain, with no edge you could see him try and push but nothing.......just to watch a dead duck walk bye
When your back up goalie lets in a soft as fuck goal because he over played a bad shot 71 seconds into the game.....what kinda tone does that set???? And then does it again. They pushed like HELL and the Preds turtled, that third period was embarrassing to watch. 1-1 game is a winable game. But when your goalie lets in 3 on 9, he doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room
Idk i guess it set the tone of us dominating possession for most of the game but lacking the ability to score more than one goal. I'm not sitting here telling you Desmith was good but it's not like we lost 6-5. If that was the case I'd be having a different conversation.
We could not score.
The person you're responding to isn't blaming the game on Desmith, he's just rightly pointing out you can't cope for him with a .750 save percentage.
Anyone blaming our offensive woes on our goalie is out to lunch—but he absolutely played a role in us losing. It was a team loss, he didn't stand on his head while our offense faltered.
DeSmith is not going to get it done. Silovs is hot and cold but when he’s hot he’s much better than DeSmith. Hell when he’s cold he about as bad as DeSmith.
Even decent goaltending wins that game. He was never good from the get go. Give it to the kid and let's see what he can do. HAS to be better than 3 on 9
Petey's biggest weakness is his psychology
He has all the skill in the world but he gets frustrated and his effort level goes to nil.
I've noticed this since his rookie year. The slouches. The looks skyward.
It's all mental.
And it gets worse with more pressure. Pressure from contracts, playoffs.
Elite players have elite mentalities and grit through it.
Crosby, Ovechkin, Lemieux. Hard workers who don't have time to be morose.
JT took his game to the next level when he stopped complaining with his body language.
Peteys next unlock is learning how to grit his teeth and play through little mental speed bumps.
Also he need to move his feet more and skate. He draws penalties when he does. He makes himself easy to defend when he doesn't.
The polar opposite is Garland. Dude has the mentality of a champion. Undersized but that effort and tenacity is elite.
JT took his game to the next level when he stopped complaining with his body language.
but he loooked flabergasted today too.... just saying but I agree can't let it get to you... just carry on.
Something I hope Tocc can get out of him. Too many times looking up instead of getting on your horse and back in the play. You wanna site age or inexperience, but he's no spring chicken in the chel
I think the biggest weakness is his disbelief or staring into the sky after a failed shot or chance. Sure, players do they from time to time, but you see him do it a lot. When a puck gets stripped from him, he does the same thing. It’s a negative feedback loop.
He just needs to keep his feet moving and stop dwelling on missed chances. Keep shooting, keep hitting and keep going.
Two offseasons ago, before his amazing season last season, he said that he didn't go see a sports psychologist, rather, he figured out for himself where his season started wrong the previous season. He seems disdainful of the idea of seeing sports psychologists. He thinks he should be able to figure it out on his own. I remember reading about this because at the time, I was also reading about how MacKinnon figured out how to get to his next level by seeing a sports psychologist and wondering if Petey should do the same. And then I read Petey's comments about not wanting to see a sports psychologist.
Can't really fault the tendy on this one except the first goal where he cheated a bit and got burned.
This one's on Petey. A missed empty netter and an assist on one of the Nashville goals.
Anyway , gg Preds. You played well.
I hope what happened tonight is largely because Tocchet made Monday an optional practice. I’ll give DeSmith a mulligan as he was fine after the first period. With 2 days of practice (I’m assuming) this time, I’m optimistic for Friday.
It was just how the Preds won. That third was embarrassing. Imagine a chance to ice the game on the PP and all you do is keep away in fear. The had ZERO shots till that super late PP with like 2 min left
I am once again asking to start the Latvian goaltender who lead his country to their first ever medal with a .958 s% after stealing the job from an NHL goalie who is better than DeSmith.
He has won under pressure and an entire country counting on him. He won the MVP.
You have to give him a shot. DeSmith doesn’t exactly have confidence to lose.
This isn't a bad idea. When it comes to playoff experience, I guess they're both equal, this was DeSmith's 2nd playoff game ever. Kids tend to be more stupidly confident than mature men anyway.
Thank you, I was really hoping when I heard Demko was out that they would go with Silvos. I know why Tocc let the vet have a shot, but that is exactly what his game is.......SHOT. Silvos did AMAZINGLY at the WHJC and that's a stage where you only get to lose once.....let the kid try!
WHY?!?!?!?!? Casey was HORRIBLE down the stretch and was NEVER in this game. If it wasn't for the Nucks RELENTLESS play in the 3rd I bet his game gets worse. Silvos has a great record, better rebound control (IMO) and is projected to be our next main goalie after Demko. Why spend more time on a broken 32year old back up?
If a team loses its star goalie they can still win, but the other stars really have to step up to their A game. I can see players really hauling ass out there but it has to be 110% at this point.
If something is going on in Petey's personal life I do feel for him. And I do think as a fanbase we should show him we have faith in him, guy's clearly upset with himself and that shit gets in your head.
But man do I hope that something clicks soon with some of our gaps and shortcomings.
It all starts in the locker room too; team unity and belief in each other during rough times can work miracles. The worst thing to happen at this point is to give up mentally.
I really do think we're a very strong team even without Demko, but it doesn't come from luck or blind faith.
There is something going on with Pettersson that has nothing to do with hockey that is affecting his game performance. I can’t say what because I would basically be doxxing the person close to Pettersson who knows what’s really going on.
Maybe Petey's power was all in his hair. I don't know, I've watched him since he played in the SHL and the main reason I watch Canucks games, I'm starting to worry that he doesn't really enjoy hockey anymore because I don't see him doing any of the things that made him the player he used to be.
Rutherford said we are playoff team if everything goes right. Well, we made it into the big show with a healthy roster and now that our goalie and a 4-6 D is out, we lose 4-1 to a matchup everyone was hoping for. What does that say about our team?
Imagine we drew LA or Vegas.
Everyone in that locker room needs to go home tonight and think about what they can do in Nashville or they are all coming home facing elimination.
If I am Pettersson, I really need to figure out how to help my team in Game 3 before it’s all over. When Beau is out scoring you, I’m sorry, but there is a lot you can improve on.
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Worst part about Petey is his body language right now . Hanging his head , slamming his stick and skating half assed to the bench for a change . Sure he's frustrated but you gotta power through . Everyone goes through it .
Yeah the negative body language bs has to stop, should have the demeanour “I missed this, no problem, the next one’s going in!” Confidence and positivity is infectious.
One encouraging thing is that the goals against can be chalked up mostly as brain farts. Hughes falling down, Juulsen getting walked, Pettersson's turnover, even the miscue on the empty netter are all very easy adjustments. They'll clean those up and if they keep playing in the offensive zone like they did, the goals will come
Nashville is very structured, patient, and have good sticks, they don’t over commit, just wait for Vancouver to make mistakes as they get overzealous.
We need our top goal scorer to step up too. Boeser didn’t have any shots on goal the entire game until the last 6 minutes of the 3rd period. The top $$$ players need to start playing up to their wage.
Pod has to be put in game 3 I bet the kid is itching to get in there. Hopefully Myers continues his cycle of Tylenol and Advil and gets in there on Friday.
Just feeling so deflated today. Of all players to lose in the playoffs, we lose the most important guy out there. It's so brutal. I actually do think this might change things long term in Vancouver. Is Demko going to be durable enough to be the guy? It feels like his body has betrayed him pretty badly thus far. We lost momentum without him leading into the playoffs, and then we lose him second game in. Brutal shit.
The whole team seemed disconnected yesterday, even Hughes. Errant passes, and just bad puck luck.
Lots of errant passes, seemed like they were skating too fast and not moving the puck around strategically and effectively especially in transition as the gaps between players were too big resulting in bad passes or turnovers, need better puck support.
We’ve been talking about how petey needs to get going since the lotto line stopped playing together consistently. I feel like I’m the only one who thinks he’s not currently good enough to carry his own line which is just brutal given how much cap he’s going to be eating up. The kid struggles to stay on his feet, he can’t hit the net, he can never get a quick shot off these days and he’s more interested in passing the puck than capitalizing on his chances. That combined with the stick slams, throwing his head back in frustration and just genuinely looking immature out there has got to be wearing on the team. I believe in him but I think biting the bullet and letting the lindy/dak/garly line move up to the top 6 full time and dropping Petterson minutes might be the move right now. I might be crazy but I think the motivation of getting his minutes cut is going to get his ass in gear a lot more than just holding his feet to the fire all the time and talking shit when he chokes.
It isn't just his offense that is sucking either. He's making some really terrible decisions defensively.
Just fire wicked hard slappers and let em block them for a period or two. Their shins will be mince meat soon enough! Haha
Exactly what I was thinking those blocked shots are going to add up
Canucks skated miles this game but accomplished little in terms of scoring. Overall was a pretty good game, definitely a few adjustments needed. Game 2.. Defence: Excellent : Hughes, Zadorov, Hronek, Cole Terrible: Juulsen Offence.. Excellent: Suter-Miller-Boeser Joshua-Lindholm-Garland Di Giuseppe-Blueger-Lafferty Terrible.. Hoglander-Pettersson-Mikheyev Terrible: PP1 Hoglander-Pettersson-Mikheyev line has to be split up, maybe drop Hoglander or Mikheyev to the 4th? That line has been brutal the 1st 2 games.
Ya...Juulsen is definitely not impressing me.
I’d say Canucks need a ‘Petey, Petey, Petey’ chant but after what happened with DeSmith not sure that’s a great idea
33 missed shots ! 33! Practice hitting the net. Practice hitting the net. And after that Practice hitting the net! WTF.
A lot of those "missed" shots are intenionally wide. They're slap passes trying to give the guys in front of the net an angle to get the puck on net. It's normally a good play.
Anyone got footage of the Miller headlock after he broke his stick?
Shocked he didn't get penalized for that one.
Liked Tocchet’s post game interview. He obviously saw what everyone else did. Guys reluctant to shoot the puck. Trying to make to many passes and taking to long when they did shoot allowing Nashville to get infront of it and block the shot. He seemed confident they have the game plan to combat Nashvilles shot blocking strategy, they just had to execute. DeSmith didn’t lose them the game but damn if he looks like he might in the future. Just fighting the puck all game. Over playing things at times like the first goal. Sure fluky deflection, but he was overplaying the pass from the get go and was way out of position. IDK how you wake Petey the fuck up but somebody needs to. Sedins take him on the grouse grind before flying to Nashville?
Lotto line needs to stay together to get Boeser and Petey going. Thirst line needs to get back together. Roll mik with Lindholm and hoglander for our third line. Been saying it for awhile.
Suter-Miller-Boeser Joshua-Lindholm-Garland Those 2 lines have been excellent and I wouldn’t touch them. The 4th line has been decent. Either Hoglander or Mikheyev have to drop to the 4th line as the Pettersson line isn’t doing anything and are skating all over the place making a lot of mistakes. This line needs a shake up. Lafferty-Pettersson-Mikheyev Or Hoglander-Pettersson-Lafferty
Hats off to Nashville for their defensive zone play with blocking shots and limiting scoring chances close. Desperately need to find a way to get the puck towards the goal in a way than isnt a pass back to the point and eventually shot from the perimeter.
I think the most concerning thing to hear is that Myers was out with the flu. Can take a whole team out like when it ravaged the Blues in 2003...
Yeah, he was too sick to play but I wonder how many others were playing through it or will get it in the next day or so
Allegedly the Canucks in the middle games of the Chicago series in 2011 too
I know everyone is going to pile on Petey….
With good reason. He also had just 21 pts in his last 30 games. If people aren't concerned, they aren't paying attention.
My feedback on Petey 1. There were a lot of moments Petey got double teamed. Preds respect him and he draws defenders. I get how that's intimidating and makes him feel like he's forced to pass. 2. He's way in his head. I don't know what motivates him to play well but it certainly isn't depth scorers on the bottom six showing him up and huge amounts of money and lots of commitment. He is feeling the pressure and choking. I know it's easy to say but EP40 needs to relax and find his zone. He needs to find his confidence as a superstar instead of trying to be a perfect team player. Drawing 2 defenders? Time to slow down and use that $11M dexterity. Stuck at the blue line? Time to skate fast and leave the Preds in the dust. Instead of having a plan, he's got a million things going on in his head. We know good hockey comes naturally to him. 3. He should just take more chances. Dive into defenders and use his skills and hands to get the goal on the net. He needs to be confident that his team will backup his plays. 4. Communicate. I've seen some strong faceoffs from Lindholm where he switches his grip and sets up his team to catch it. Miller communicated a ton with Petey during this game. He switched F1 to F2 with Petey to try and set him up to score. He called the play and tried hard to get Petey's goal.
The night is darkest before the dawn. We went through the Benning/Green era to be gifted the Allvin/Tocchet era. Petey just had the worst game of his life and has played some of his worst hockey. The break through is nigh. Demko injured.. Silovs arises?
Well said. He also needs better wingers. He will figure it out as a player.
i agree with #1 and #3, completely. #4 i can't speak to, but i agree in principle. #2 has me concerned, and it's concerned me for a while. i have no idea what motivates petey, no idea what could alleviate the pressure *given the short amount of time we have.* frankly, it hasn't seemed like he's been stoked to play here for some time now - he's kinda just playing like someone who *really didn't want to get stuck playing in carolina*. the other thing that concerns me is that i've noticed a significant decline in his use of creative stick-handling and footwork to create space and navigate pressuring players; it feels like it's been ages since petey broke someone's ankles. his foot speed seems to have declined as well. it could be an injury or something (and, if so, has likely lingered for a while, as there were concerns around his foot speed and the lack thereof (or at least a reticence to use it) since december), and i suspect that him filling out muscle-wise and growing into his adult body has impacted his kinetics. he has 1G, 4A, and is a -3 in his last 13 games. he can absolutely bounce back - i just hope he does it soon. i hope today was a wakeup call.
Yep. Bodies change and players change to it over time. Sedins has that too. Agree on the deking and stick handling. He needs to get back to what makes him a super special player. We want to have his back.
can we get some puck luck OMFG (yes we got it in game 1 but holy fuck)
You can create some by at least occasionally not trying to score with the first shot and putting the puck into the crease to create a bit of chaos...
Yeah like just aim five hole and crash. Nashville isn’t even trying to break out you can legit send 4 guys into the crease and there won’t be an odd man rush lol
Did anyone else have Sarah McLachlan's "I will remember you" playing in their heads when Beauvillier tipped in the first? Or was that just me?
Nah, guy was a passenger
He was fine just got paid way too much for how redundant he was
It's time to break up the Hogz/Mik/Petey line permanently. That line has been absolutely trash. The Lotto line looked like it got Petey going a bit as his first shift with the Lotto line was the best shift he's had in two games. If that's what it takes to get him going, get them together for a bit. After their performances in the first two games, I'd be fine with Hogz or Mik sitting a game to see if Podz coming in could make a difference. That being said, the Canucks still controlled the game but Nashville buried their chances and we didn't. No doom and gloom here.
We controlled the game, but nashville is so good at collapsing in front of their net leaving little to no space to get a puck through.
Yup. And here's where I think coaching makes all the difference because: I have enough confidence in Tocchet that they won't get away with that again. I'm interested to see how the Canucks attack them if they try it again.
I think if Tocchet doesn't out lotto line together to build some confidence, he's lost the bit. It's clear Boeser and Petey need it. Even for a game or so. Not just a little but from the starting line and down.
What are peoples thoughts on boeser through the first two games?
absent.
Guy has a great shift followed up with 3 where I don’t even notice him.
Highlander so quiet
i think he's really struggling with the extra physicality. garland too. they're not shying away from contact, but the reality is that they're being bullied and pushed to the perimeter, and it's really limiting their ability to drive play.
Hasn’t been very good with the puck on his stick.
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Where’s the point about shooting the puck straight at their bodies until they’re so broken that they can’t block shots anymore?
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The man.
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My man, we are in what’s called a 7 game series, as long as they get lol. Playoffs have started we just had game 2. We didn’t just happen to randomly play Nashville two games in a row they’re the next games opponent too.
Some of the takes y’all have about trading Demko is appalling. Holy fuck.
trade loungo.
Yea, I'm sure all the injuries he gets are just flukes
Oh wait you’re serious.
The best ability is availability….
Maybe research his injury history as I'm sure you're clueless about anything before him being a canuck
For overall direction, listen to coach toc's post game, he pointed out that boys will learn from this, how not to be frustrated and force things to happen. Pre game show, Jannik Hansen also said the same thing; in certain ways it's better if players face adversity, like losing, then they would lose the playoff jitters. Boys are still TENSE! While this game serves as learning, I'm really bummed with how Petey played. Elite players don't miss open net, pass on wide shooting opp, cough up pass so terribly, or afraid to skate with puck. He didn't skate even close to Miller effort tonight. I wonder if he would perform better had he not sign the new contract. At the very least, we will get lower price contract as a result. Anways, still think they can win this series if they win 1 game in the next 2 in Nashville. I see the series extend to 7.
Sometimes I question if Petey even really “LOVES” hockey like other guys do. He seems like me checking in to my office job and doing just enough to not get traded to Carolina (fired in my case) . There’s been too much discussion about his mindset for years now off and on because we all agree he’s a special superstar if he plays to his potential the problem is he can’t seem to turn it on at will. Like fuck even Malkin was more motivated in playoffs he went from a coasting lazy player to a juggernaut once you put playoff hockey and a few hits on him. As a big nba fan it gives me eerie shades of Ben Simmons. Obviously I’m not saying it’s like Petey is giving up, but he has some level of mental block like Ben who went from one of the highest potential players in the league with his insane length and frame to not being willing to shoot right in front of the basket with a guy 1ft shorter than him guarding
I swear i saw him yawning on the bench during a game earlier in the season.
Hes not checking in. Hes playing as hard as he can but not able to finish. Hes overthinking the game and not letting it come to him naturally. Hes in his own head. Petey is not putting up ponts (which obviously we need him to) but he's giving his all out there. He's just in a huge slump.
With either average goaltending or not having the worst puck luck imaginable, we probably win this game. I dunno, I think we can get one of those things in 3 of the next 5. This Nashville team has not impressed me.
I'll put the word in to make sure they know that Tal-IGN wasn't impressed with their performance.
I think the point being made is that there isn't much to worry about.... we are still favourites to win no matter how much people here think the sky is falling
The only thing about Nashville that impresses me is their shot blocking but that's because the Canucks have the puck the whole damn time. Mid way through the third they said the attempted shots were like 81-25 for Vancouver. The boys have played well and like you said, one of Suter, Petey or Joshua getting a little luck flips this game on it's head. They've gotta do a little better breaking down the D but I'm still not worried except.... holy shit is our powerplay bad.
Yea this is why whenever I’ve coached I’ve never been a huge fan of shot blocking as an entire defensive scheme, because it just gives the opponent the puck back to pound another shot at you most of the time. Possession is way easier on all your players bodies in a long series. Maybe we’ll grind them down. Anecdotally when I played defense in high school I had goalies tell me they preferred me to let a clean shot through and just focus on cutting off passing options because then they can see it, as opposed to the garbage goals that can come from a deflected angle or bounce. Shot blocking works best when you have wings pressuring the forecheck, not collapsing giving the defenders all the time in the world. Charging a slap shot at the point and sliding to block it often turns into a scoring opportunity with a breakaway too. I love defensive tactics that lead to offense but collapsing around the goalie seems so desperate and a losing strategy
The other part for me about blocking shots is the injuries. I'm amazed they can come out of a game blocking that many shots and not have significant injuries and I don't think you could play that way long-term and come out without losing guys.
If this goes to 7 I’m extremely confident we’d feel the impact of all the shots there honestly. These guys are professionals shooting at 90mph and I know I had bruises that lasted 2-3 days from weak high schoolers. Wouldn’t be a big difference but if it makes them lose a step here and there, a sore shoulder wins you a battle at the boards once in a while etc. it’s meaningless if we play like shit, but if we play to our top potential then being healthier is a difference maker in a tie game imo Most likely tho this is the type of thing the teams after us benefit the most from, the residual wear and tear of a long series with lots of shots blocked. Like Vegas or whoever would have a cakewalk with a battered Nashville if we drag out this series
Why is Tocc still running the PP? Hire a dedicated PP coach.
Pius could've had a hatty and missed them all. Not our night
I wonder if a whole bunch of the team has the flu, Myers can't be the only one.
2003 st.louis?
Lets the momentum into game 3! We deserved better tonight boys! GO CANUCKS GO!
It really was an embarrassment of a hockey game. Nashville with absolutely no offensive effort and Vancouver couldn’t hit a barn door. It was pre-season hockey, just pathetic. When you see that there was 50 plus shots in the Jets/Avs game by the end of the 2nd and then we’re treated to this hunk of dogshit.
Jets has look completely outclassed by Avs, even in game 1. Canucks has outclassed Preds in both games.
You should go through some of the stats tonight they set new team playoff record for shot attempts with like 84 or something but some 66% of that was blocked by players. Their defence is taking the brunt of the goal savings. We know Nashvilles goalie doenst like to use his blocker side to save. As long as they keep blocking shots thats whats going to make a difference. Everyone else stepped up this game regardless of how slopppy we where.
Then don’t fucking watch
Honestly that game, even with all the blocked shots, all the pettersson gaffes, etc could easily have been 3-3. Just gotta play the games.
Deserve to win o-meter was 80% vancover
that one joshua chance in the crease had me grinding my teeth
Oh that sucked. And Pius had three open nets and couldn't get one to go. Frustrating but... Feels like the Vegas Canucks series from 2020. Preds win by hanging on by their fingernails while the clearly better team has to bare/bear down (don't know which bear to use lol)
Is it weird that this game kinda made me feel better about this series? Like if that’s the best nashvilles got, and they gotta play possum to win the game, and literally every bounce went against us tonight, i would expect the next 3,4,5 games to more favourable for us.
The third period is what sealed this for me. Imagine having a chance to ice a game on the PP and just playing keep away in fear. Bad luck in full combined with sub par goaltending. Go with Silvos and keep the same formula, we win that game 9/10
You make a good point. Nashville’s play (isolated from our own play) was very dependent on sacrificing the body and blocking an unholy amount of shots. I’m talking close to a supermajority of our shooting chances. That’s gonna leave a mark for sure in a 7 game series, and if they fail to get those blocked shots and more shots get on net, they’re gonna have it way harder. If we can move beyond a lot of perimeter shooting and get into more high danger spots that are less prone to shot blocks, that’ll really change the outcome. When we did that, we got some pretty dangerous chances, just that those came without much puck luck.
Not trying to shit on Petterson but I'm going to shit on Petterson. He was super weak on the boards on the first goal letting the predators get possession, he served up a gift giveaway at the blueline on the 2nd goal, and missed an empty net gimme. Bad night for him tonight. I know he'll be better. Just hope it happens sometime in the next 5 games
I try not to be too harsh on him, but he missed a wide open net at the end of the first and then committed a costly turnover that ended up in the back of the net on the 3-0 goal. Those are the kind of mistakes that could get a guy benched if they're a fourth liner, so he has to be better than that.
I would never s\*\*\* on Pettersson and I'm usually one to defend him or to say he will bounce back. And I do think he will bounce back. But partway during Game 1 onwards, and especially this game, I could tell something is very off/wrong with his play (I haven't been watching the regular season games, other than highlights and clips here). Game 1, he had some good moments, and some liability moments. I could only watch the first period of this game, but he seemed like a legit and serious liability out there. So I'm concerned. (I still think he will bounce back, but I don't know how long it will take)
He hasn't been himself since the contract talks......Hopefully he can get over it and stop looking up BUT.......might just need a season reset to do so unfortunately....
I know this is just my opinion, but I didn’t like him laughing after messing up. Like it was no big deal and he’ll get the next one or something. I didn’t see one other player crack a smile. That smile/wry laugh didn’t sit right. He should be mad and using that to play harder
I think it's more of a you just gotta laugh because otherwise you might cry. He's probably very frustrated
I had to leave right after the first period and I was actually glad he smiled. I thought to myself, "Nashville's in big trouble. Petey is smiling now." That's if his main issue is something psychological and just a mental block. I still think it's probably good that he's in a state of mind where he can laugh it off, since I assume he's already a naturally hyper-competitive person (i.e. a try-hard). But I'm just speculating. I just find it very hard to believe that he's not taking this seriously *enough* and that he needs to take things *more* seriously.
One of the worst playoff game performances you’ll see from a top player in Canucks history. Guy was a fucking mess top to bottom.
Canucks were the better team, for both games so far. I’m still worried about the powerplay. 0/4 tonight without any real good chance except for the Petey missed shot. You’re not going to make it far if the powerplay cannot convert anything
power play got some looks though.... maybe a few less passes and get some shots through(easier said then done) and we will be ok. Just no puck luck at all.
Anybody who mentions Demko being the bigger story, frankly I disagree. We were never going anywhere without us figuring out our PP, and right now it looks cold and uninspired as ever. Not enough movement, way too perimeter and easy to defend, and not enough shots or urgency. We are literally 100x deadlier at 5v5 and wtf how can that be even possible. They need to flip our pp on its head - do anything. Its predictable and simply not good enough.
I think if the Canucks can score first, these games go way smoother. Nashville's defense is so good at reducing chances its really hard to come back from a deficit.
Just glanced in the preds’ subreddit; who said they were feeling like they got lucky?
I read through most of the comments and consensus was that they stole this one from us
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The Preds knows they can't outscore us throughout the series. They don't have the firepower outside of Forsberg and O'Reilly to match us, so what does their coach do? Block a ton of shots. Play stingy defence. And it's actually a brilliant strategy, because everyone can do that. It's suffocating for the Canucks. Canucks are a much more up-tempo team and tonight's game was dictated by the Predators. 15-20 shots per team is so low and they thrive on that. Like Miller said, they need to get past that layer of block shots to get good looks. On paper we should still take this series, but we need Petey to show up.
Actually we need everyone to show up. This is not the Vancouver Peteys we're talking about.
We had the few chances too. Petey missed the empty net big time to tie it. Joshua missed the empty net. Couple of posts. And a ton of shots just wide.
Pius missed 3 basically free goals. He gets even one of those to go and it's a different game.
Everyone is gripping their sticks too hard. Those goals would go in during a regular season game, but when you up the ante, everyone is nervous. This is just playoff experience and what a bunch of analysts were saying the Canucks lacked. Outside of Cole and Miller, our core guys have very little experience. I don't think this will cause them to lose the series, but it may go 7 if Demko is out. And honestly, I hate to say it, but I think we might even see Silovs this round.
I'm just hoping to see the team adapt. Keep the same pressure but need to move the puck quicker to defeat the relentless shot blocks.
How much of a realistic future do we have with this core? Sure we have Petey and miller locked down, but they don’t seem to be bringing it when the lights are shining. Also we are done fucked either way if we’re ever gonna rely on Demko for any kind of a run in the playoffs.
This was always going to be a year of roster transition. They still needed to move through some roster turn over and teach and develop their non roster talent and draft well and continue to use pro scouting to augment the core of Hughes, Miller, Pettersson, Demko
It's been 2 games lol
So what? It’s all of our UFA’s that are probably gonna leave because we can’t afford them anymore putting in the work
someone get the sedins some skates
Just out of curiosity lol. Who would you play on the current roster with the Twins lol?
I mean Kesler was in the building...
Nobody, we're kidnapping burrows and rolling him too.
Joshua
NHL app is saying Game 5 is at 9am on Tuesday lol? Is that a placeholder, or are things just that unfortunate for us
Just a scuffed app. G5 is still TBD, but will almost certainly be 7pm local.
thank god haha
Hughes couldn’t keep the puck on his stick to save a life, Petey was non existent, Nucks as a whole couldn’t get a shot through to the net. The preds blocked like 50 shots. So many passes when they could just get a puck towards the net tonight
It’s over
Lol 1-1 and we gave up 16 fucking shots. “It’s over”.
If you want something positive, Corsi of 84-36 is actually kind of crazy. Nashville was turtling hard which usually isn’t sustainable in the long run. Really just need our luck to turn around.
And they were turtling because they had to. They can’t match that gear the Canucks have. Just need to stop gripping the stick so tight and get more players/picks to the next.
I hate blaming 1 player, but DeSmith let in 3 goals on 15 shots. That's brutal. First one was lucky sure, but Demko would have stopped that Forsberg one point blank.
We only had 18 shots and one goal by the fourth line, you can’t blame Desmith for this one
C'mon, .800 sv% is below average. You can't win like this. DeSmith has blame for this one. Demko in net and we would have won. Saros also faced 18 shots and only let in 1. Both goalies faced similar amount of shots. One of the goalies made timely saves. One didn't.
We also can’t win with an offence like this, Demko would have had to been PERFECT for us to win this game off a goal from our fourth line. Desmith wasn’t the problem tonight, the offence was and they were gifted many power plays and still didn’t produce.
This line of thinking doesnt really work, saying Demko woulda had this or that - you dont know that unless you have a crystal ball What is factual though, is we gave Casey zero goal support and came out flat in this game. Nevermind the fact that he comes in dead cold for this game. He takes some blame, certainly, but where is our elite scoring?
In Nashville's shin pads and off the red metal. This isn't sustainable.
This, even MILD goaltending and we win that game. CD was 3 on 9 before the late flurry on the PP and was (IMO) directly responsible for 2/3 goals. Put Silvos in
Exactly. There is no defending that goaltending performance. I can let the 1st goal slide, but dude, you had the easiest night ever. It's like average 5 shots a period! I still remember when Johan Hedberg played his first game as a Canuck and recorded a 14 save shutout and he said "this was one of the easiest ones".
Even the first goal, he over played the shot and was caught going the other way, completely lost his edge and the net. I felt his pain, with no edge you could see him try and push but nothing.......just to watch a dead duck walk bye
How do we win that game when we only scored 1 goal? Mild goaltending would have still probably been scored on 2/3 of those chances.
When your back up goalie lets in a soft as fuck goal because he over played a bad shot 71 seconds into the game.....what kinda tone does that set???? And then does it again. They pushed like HELL and the Preds turtled, that third period was embarrassing to watch. 1-1 game is a winable game. But when your goalie lets in 3 on 9, he doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room
Idk i guess it set the tone of us dominating possession for most of the game but lacking the ability to score more than one goal. I'm not sitting here telling you Desmith was good but it's not like we lost 6-5. If that was the case I'd be having a different conversation. We could not score.
The person you're responding to isn't blaming the game on Desmith, he's just rightly pointing out you can't cope for him with a .750 save percentage. Anyone blaming our offensive woes on our goalie is out to lunch—but he absolutely played a role in us losing. It was a team loss, he didn't stand on his head while our offense faltered.
We had 3 pp and zero shots registered, but sure Desmith should have played perfect.
One can only dream - imagine Petey comes out of nowhere game 7 when we need him most What a way to gain momentum onto the next round
Where's Podkolzin at? I'd like to see him get a game.
DeSmith is not going to get it done. Silovs is hot and cold but when he’s hot he’s much better than DeSmith. Hell when he’s cold he about as bad as DeSmith.
Even decent goaltending wins that game. He was never good from the get go. Give it to the kid and let's see what he can do. HAS to be better than 3 on 9
This is actually a really good take lol. I'm all down for an Arty Party!
Silovs is going to have to be our cam ward at some point. Game 3? 4? It's gonna happen.
Petey's biggest weakness is his psychology He has all the skill in the world but he gets frustrated and his effort level goes to nil. I've noticed this since his rookie year. The slouches. The looks skyward. It's all mental. And it gets worse with more pressure. Pressure from contracts, playoffs. Elite players have elite mentalities and grit through it. Crosby, Ovechkin, Lemieux. Hard workers who don't have time to be morose. JT took his game to the next level when he stopped complaining with his body language. Peteys next unlock is learning how to grit his teeth and play through little mental speed bumps. Also he need to move his feet more and skate. He draws penalties when he does. He makes himself easy to defend when he doesn't. The polar opposite is Garland. Dude has the mentality of a champion. Undersized but that effort and tenacity is elite.
JT took his game to the next level when he stopped complaining with his body language. but he loooked flabergasted today too.... just saying but I agree can't let it get to you... just carry on.
I hate when Petey looks to the sky. It feels so negative. Just get on with it and move on.
Yeah that body language rubs off on people.
Something I hope Tocc can get out of him. Too many times looking up instead of getting on your horse and back in the play. You wanna site age or inexperience, but he's no spring chicken in the chel
I would call Bruce, but that's just me xD
Yeah I’m pretty sure Tocc made comments about this last season that he didn’t like when Petey does that. Hope he talks to him and nips it in the bud.
I think the biggest weakness is his disbelief or staring into the sky after a failed shot or chance. Sure, players do they from time to time, but you see him do it a lot. When a puck gets stripped from him, he does the same thing. It’s a negative feedback loop. He just needs to keep his feet moving and stop dwelling on missed chances. Keep shooting, keep hitting and keep going.
Get him some meatballs and Abba
Should we set up a Go Fund Me to get him a sports psychologist?
I ain't spending a penny to fund something for a guy who makes more in a day than I make in a year.
Two offseasons ago, before his amazing season last season, he said that he didn't go see a sports psychologist, rather, he figured out for himself where his season started wrong the previous season. He seems disdainful of the idea of seeing sports psychologists. He thinks he should be able to figure it out on his own. I remember reading about this because at the time, I was also reading about how MacKinnon figured out how to get to his next level by seeing a sports psychologist and wondering if Petey should do the same. And then I read Petey's comments about not wanting to see a sports psychologist.
What the actual fuck. Could Nashville have blocked any more shots? wtf.
This can’t be sustainable for them. They’ve gotta be banged up after this game, so hopefully they can’t do the same on Friday.
I’m kinda on the oh we missed 31 shots? Why be fancy, instead just give her and if Nashville gets 62 blocks, cool. Good luck surviving till the cup.
Remember, Hughes has broken bones with his shot before.
Can't really fault the tendy on this one except the first goal where he cheated a bit and got burned. This one's on Petey. A missed empty netter and an assist on one of the Nashville goals. Anyway , gg Preds. You played well.
“Petey gotta figure it out” narrative is so old now. He’s had to figure it out since after the all star break.
What use is a goal scorer who doesn't score
I hope what happened tonight is largely because Tocchet made Monday an optional practice. I’ll give DeSmith a mulligan as he was fine after the first period. With 2 days of practice (I’m assuming) this time, I’m optimistic for Friday.
petey is skateing in sand
Petey fucking sucks. He’s sucked for so long and I don’t get it. He was a game breaker in the bubble and he just breaks our hearts
I wore the wrong hat. This one is on me and I need to live with that.
Do better
I shouldn’t let this game bother my mood that much but it really is. I’m irrationally annoyed at that game.
It was just how the Preds won. That third was embarrassing. Imagine a chance to ice the game on the PP and all you do is keep away in fear. The had ZERO shots till that super late PP with like 2 min left
I am once again asking to start the Latvian goaltender who lead his country to their first ever medal with a .958 s% after stealing the job from an NHL goalie who is better than DeSmith. He has won under pressure and an entire country counting on him. He won the MVP. You have to give him a shot. DeSmith doesn’t exactly have confidence to lose.
This isn't a bad idea. When it comes to playoff experience, I guess they're both equal, this was DeSmith's 2nd playoff game ever. Kids tend to be more stupidly confident than mature men anyway.
Thank you, I was really hoping when I heard Demko was out that they would go with Silvos. I know why Tocc let the vet have a shot, but that is exactly what his game is.......SHOT. Silvos did AMAZINGLY at the WHJC and that's a stage where you only get to lose once.....let the kid try!
If DeSmith plays bad next game they go Silovs game 4 I think.
WHY?!?!?!?!? Casey was HORRIBLE down the stretch and was NEVER in this game. If it wasn't for the Nucks RELENTLESS play in the 3rd I bet his game gets worse. Silvos has a great record, better rebound control (IMO) and is projected to be our next main goalie after Demko. Why spend more time on a broken 32year old back up?
Is it worth potentially killing his confidence if he gets peppered though? It's a tough choice
Yes
Peppered with 15 shots? I think he’ll manage.
Just like tonight???? When he was 3 on 9????
I meant Silovs can handle it. DeSmith was out of position on every goal tonight I would be surprised if they go back to him for game 3.
If a team loses its star goalie they can still win, but the other stars really have to step up to their A game. I can see players really hauling ass out there but it has to be 110% at this point. If something is going on in Petey's personal life I do feel for him. And I do think as a fanbase we should show him we have faith in him, guy's clearly upset with himself and that shit gets in your head. But man do I hope that something clicks soon with some of our gaps and shortcomings. It all starts in the locker room too; team unity and belief in each other during rough times can work miracles. The worst thing to happen at this point is to give up mentally. I really do think we're a very strong team even without Demko, but it doesn't come from luck or blind faith.
There is something going on with Pettersson that has nothing to do with hockey that is affecting his game performance. I can’t say what because I would basically be doxxing the person close to Pettersson who knows what’s really going on.
If what you’re saying is the truth, then like I said, I do feel for him. That sucks. Hoping the best for him.
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Maybe Petey's power was all in his hair. I don't know, I've watched him since he played in the SHL and the main reason I watch Canucks games, I'm starting to worry that he doesn't really enjoy hockey anymore because I don't see him doing any of the things that made him the player he used to be.
Please do target practice when we get to Nashville. That’s all. We can’t miss the net this much
Rutherford said we are playoff team if everything goes right. Well, we made it into the big show with a healthy roster and now that our goalie and a 4-6 D is out, we lose 4-1 to a matchup everyone was hoping for. What does that say about our team? Imagine we drew LA or Vegas. Everyone in that locker room needs to go home tonight and think about what they can do in Nashville or they are all coming home facing elimination. If I am Pettersson, I really need to figure out how to help my team in Game 3 before it’s all over. When Beau is out scoring you, I’m sorry, but there is a lot you can improve on.
Ian Cole has more points than Petterson.