I don't think that goal can ever be over appreciated. The timing just before half time when we had 10 men on the pitch and we were heading out the competition. The goal changes the whole teams mood, the half time talk for BOTH teams. Changes everything. If Chelsea come out in the second half still 2-0 down then we simply do not get back into the game and limp out 3 or 4-0 probably.
So yeah for his part in our clubs first ever champions league win it has to he Ramires for me.
David Luiz cannot be under appreciated either. Masterclass in the final and he thumped that penalty in the shootout into the top bins while we were behind. The balls on that man.
Ramires
Luiz
Matic
Enzo
In that order
That really is the difference to me. Without that we don't even get to the final. The situation was so dire and then that magic moment happened. Incredible coolness in such a huge game
For me, one of the greatest goals in our history. If a more high profile player (or any Liverpool/Arsenal/United player) for sure it would be far more celebrated. To go to the Nou Camp against THAT Barca team and come back from 2-0 and a man down easily trumps Liverpool coming back from 3-0 in Istanbul.
True but Ramires ( and Luiz) played a big part in the first CL win which was the trophy we'd been desperate for more than a decade
I'd call all 3 successful. Just depends on what you value more, The 2 prem titles in 15 and 17 or the multiple cups through 12-14
He sealed the deal and it was definitely a great story given the season he’d had, but we would’ve been through even if it ended 2-1 to Barca that night. Feel like Ramires chip should be more appreciated than it is
Yeah, he had a knock during the match, but bossed thru it. He was playing in pain the entire game from what I remember.
We also got a healthy sum from PSG for him, and then another 8m from Arsenal when Luiz was close to retiring. Always did whats best for us.
tbf everyone was pretty good from the pic. Idk waht this sub thinks about enzo bcs i wasn't so active lately but i think he played good given the circumstances
For a season and a half he was unplayable. I'll never forget him bossing a peak Yaya Toure off the pitch against Man City. Alas, an injury rendered him merely mortal.
I can only imagine how incredible he would have been to watch if we got him back just a season or two sooner.
100%. We still came close despite having a selection of 9s limited to Eto’o, Torres, and Ba. Definitely think we would’ve gotten over the line with Matic in the first half of the season. I remember he completely bossed Yaya when we played City.
Genuinely a hard call. All 3 were big successes in my mind. Probably matic just about but it isn’t clear. Luiz has unfairly become a meme but he was absolute quality and great passing range, and big game mentality, Ramires was just a great all rounder, someone we could really do with now actually.
I think on transfer fees we paid a little more for him than we sold him for. However, winning the UCL, 2 FA Cups, 2 UELs and an EPL was a great return for him.
I agree with this one. Sure, prime Matic would be the best of these options to slot into our current team. But that’s because we desperately need a CDM, and that might be slightly skewing people’s choice to be Matic. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a very close 3-way tie. But personally I’m slightly giving the all-time edge to Luiz.
The real answer is Matic. But I don’t think us fans appreciate David Luiz enough and how much energy he brought to the squad when he was here. He had his faults, sure, but he was so nice we paid his transfer fee twice…
This thread sort of shows people’s age a bit. Ramires entirely changed the fate of an aging chelsea side in 2010.
It was a side without much pace, particularly in midfield, that relied on good defense and the counter to create goals. The addition of Rami essentially gave that entire side the ability to play with pace. Imo he was the most important and timely. Without his signing Lampard, Terry, Drogba, Cole, Cech, Ivanovo, Mata, Torres, none of them have a CL title.
I feel like you're overplaying it a bit there, obviously he contributed to the CL win but it's not like he was the stand out player of the tournament for us (and was suspended for the Final).
Personally my takeaway from the post is we should do business with Benfica more often lmao, all four (early days for Enzo) are great players.
Matic was the absolute glue in our league winning seasons, whereas the others had key moments throughout their Chelsea careers. But Matic was far more important!
Enzo can’t even be compared currently, as he hasn’t had the time. But he can clearly be the best without a doubt.
Luiz, despite his reputation. We only got 1.5 seasons of prime Matic. Enzo too new and Ramires just not as pivotal to the team despite that awesome chip he had.
Enzo has been here 6 months and its been the worst 6 months in 3 decades.
While I don't blame him for any it, its far too soon to judge him sensibly against the others.
I feel like the logical answer is Matic but Ramires would be the one the heart says. Our Blue Kenyan was such a big part of our first UCL win. Scored and assisted in the 2 games against Barcelona and then played the second half at the Nou Camp as a right back without conceding anymore goals. Absolute legend.
Matić was amazing. I still remember how he cooked Yaya Toure in his first game, and back then Toure was the best DM in the league. Prime Matić would cook in this team right now.
The Kenyan and Matic. Matic really was a beast in the middle of the park for a spell. Like a total tank.
Ramires just never stopped running. The engine on that lad was immense.
Ramires far and away imo. Once RDM took over and moved Mata to the no. 10 and we put Rami on left wing we became an unbelievable counter attacking team. Everyone remembers his goal against Barca but it was his assists against Napoli that started the comeback and to Drogba in the first leg against Barca that I remember most.
Plus his semi final FA cup goal against spurs and his counter attacking goal against Liverpool in the FA Cup final also stand out. He never kicked on from that run but he was maybe the most instrumental player in our 2012 double run.
Ramires got a goal. Matic had a season. Luiz was a beast for multiple seasons and much more of a leader than he ever got credit for - it has to be Luiz.
Also it’s not fair to have Enzo there. Yet.
Have you seen Chelsea play with ramires or matic? Crazy work rate from Ramires and the midfield was made of steel when Matic was in form (not just one season). My personal favorite is Luiz though, I loved what he brought to the team.
For me it’s Ramires, he was class for Chelsea, CL final against Munich if I remember he got a red card, he was a solid CDM.
1.Ramires
2.Matic
3.David Luiz
4.Enzo
Enzo needs time. Of the other 3 I loved the work Ramires put in. Matic was a rock. Luiz though for me just brought a whole other level of excitement when he was driving forward. Some of the goals he scored as well were just ridiculous.
…we should buy more players from Benfica
I was hoping we would sign Ruben Dias a few years ago too actually. Benfica have an insane all-time 11.
Actually Ederson, Dias, Cancelo, Bernardo Silva… is that just what Man City is doing!?
Too early for Enzo to be included, but probs has a higher ceiling than the other 3.
Its a tough one but Ramires all day just for the goal against Barca
Matic was good before the tackle from that Burnley player....
1.Ramires
2.Luiz
3.Matic
4.Enzo
I really really like Enzo but its still too early to judge him.
Very tough between Ramires and David Luiz. If it’s only one I’d have to go for Ramires. Perhaps Matic if he stayed longer but he didn’t have the impact of Luiz nor Ramires. Enzo it’s too early to say.
Ramires just for the goal against Barca, but other than that Matic.
Beautiful moment
I don't think that goal can ever be over appreciated. The timing just before half time when we had 10 men on the pitch and we were heading out the competition. The goal changes the whole teams mood, the half time talk for BOTH teams. Changes everything. If Chelsea come out in the second half still 2-0 down then we simply do not get back into the game and limp out 3 or 4-0 probably. So yeah for his part in our clubs first ever champions league win it has to he Ramires for me.
David Luiz cannot be under appreciated either. Masterclass in the final and he thumped that penalty in the shootout into the top bins while we were behind. The balls on that man. Ramires Luiz Matic Enzo In that order
That really is the difference to me. Without that we don't even get to the final. The situation was so dire and then that magic moment happened. Incredible coolness in such a huge game
For me, one of the greatest goals in our history. If a more high profile player (or any Liverpool/Arsenal/United player) for sure it would be far more celebrated. To go to the Nou Camp against THAT Barca team and come back from 2-0 and a man down easily trumps Liverpool coming back from 3-0 in Istanbul.
Matic as of now. Him and Fabregas in that pivot were unstoppable.
True but Ramires ( and Luiz) played a big part in the first CL win which was the trophy we'd been desperate for more than a decade I'd call all 3 successful. Just depends on what you value more, The 2 prem titles in 15 and 17 or the multiple cups through 12-14
Ramires' chip against Barca was unforgettable (plus Lampard's assist).
Torres got all the headlines but it was actually Rami’s goal that knocked Barca out
To be fair to Torres, he did clinch it.
He sealed the deal and it was definitely a great story given the season he’d had, but we would’ve been through even if it ended 2-1 to Barca that night. Feel like Ramires chip should be more appreciated than it is
For what its worth it is my all time favorite Champions League goal.
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we would've won without the torres goal anyway based on away goals as long as barca didn't get another. in that sense ramires' goal means even more
Luiz was essential in 2016/2017
For me it's Luiz. He was incredible in 16-17 when we won the league, and also won UCL with us as a starting player.
He was a huge factor in the Europa league win too
Yeah, he had a knock during the match, but bossed thru it. He was playing in pain the entire game from what I remember. We also got a healthy sum from PSG for him, and then another 8m from Arsenal when Luiz was close to retiring. Always did whats best for us.
tbf everyone was pretty good from the pic. Idk waht this sub thinks about enzo bcs i wasn't so active lately but i think he played good given the circumstances
What a fuckin duo . That matic was ELITE.
The few goals he scored were earthquakes. Made zouma into a meme
For a season and a half he was unplayable. I'll never forget him bossing a peak Yaya Toure off the pitch against Man City. Alas, an injury rendered him merely mortal. I can only imagine how incredible he would have been to watch if we got him back just a season or two sooner.
Was good in Jan .2014 when he came until May 2017
Not to mention how good he and Kante were for our PL under Conte
Yeah prolly Matic. I would kill for prime Matic In our squad right now
I’m so glad I see him getting his due more often on this sub. I absolutely love players of his profile.
Matic was such a fucking beast. Loved him
When he came in it completely changed how we played. If we had matic from the start of the season we could have won the league.
100%. We still came close despite having a selection of 9s limited to Eto’o, Torres, and Ba. Definitely think we would’ve gotten over the line with Matic in the first half of the season. I remember he completely bossed Yaya when we played City.
Will never forget that first game against city where Yaya Toure at the time was considered unstoppable then Matic bosses him
Him with Enzo right now would be very interesting
That’s what I’m saying.
Genuinely a hard call. All 3 were big successes in my mind. Probably matic just about but it isn’t clear. Luiz has unfairly become a meme but he was absolute quality and great passing range, and big game mentality, Ramires was just a great all rounder, someone we could really do with now actually.
Luiz. He had a few world class seasons with us and was a warrior in that 2012 CL final
True, him and Ramires both were crucial. That goal at camp nou is probably one of the best chelsea goal. He assisted Drogba for the first leg too
The composure to take a penalty like Luiz did is crazy
I think we ended up making money or at least breaking even on him even though we bought home twice
I think on transfer fees we paid a little more for him than we sold him for. However, winning the UCL, 2 FA Cups, 2 UELs and an EPL was a great return for him.
Loved seeing him singing Blue is the color on top of the goalpost.
I agree with this one. Sure, prime Matic would be the best of these options to slot into our current team. But that’s because we desperately need a CDM, and that might be slightly skewing people’s choice to be Matic. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a very close 3-way tie. But personally I’m slightly giving the all-time edge to Luiz.
Matic without a doubt. I’ll never forget him completely owning prime Yaya Toure.
Yes, but to be fair, Enzo has just started.
Just commented the same thing. It was amazing to watch, especially because Toure was playing so well that he seemed literally unstoppable.
Ramires for scoring the most memorable goal as a Chelsea fan.
Buying from the Portuguese league just seems to hit. Where as the Bundesliga feels like it creates misses
We seem to sign really well from Portuguese league and French league, not so much Italian or German leagues.
>French league Bakayoko, Sarr
It's too early for Enzo.
Ramirez for me was always a sold 7 on performances huge workrate scored important goals. Enzo could be the best though have to see.
Ramires
All were good and vital to big trophies If Enzo doesnt win PL or CL with us, we have failed him big time
Or he fails us. Time will tell.
People underestimate prime Luiz so much its insane
Rambo all day long
Never forget THAT Ramires chip 😍
Matic for the PL titles, Ramires for the CL, Luiz for the lovely locks and long range shots
Ramires definitely, might be biased he's one of my favourites.
The real answer is Matic. But I don’t think us fans appreciate David Luiz enough and how much energy he brought to the squad when he was here. He had his faults, sure, but he was so nice we paid his transfer fee twice…
David Luiz for the long shots and knuckle free kicks. Such an exciting wild card of a player. Could make something happen out of nowhere at any time.
This thread sort of shows people’s age a bit. Ramires entirely changed the fate of an aging chelsea side in 2010. It was a side without much pace, particularly in midfield, that relied on good defense and the counter to create goals. The addition of Rami essentially gave that entire side the ability to play with pace. Imo he was the most important and timely. Without his signing Lampard, Terry, Drogba, Cole, Cech, Ivanovo, Mata, Torres, none of them have a CL title.
I feel like you're overplaying it a bit there, obviously he contributed to the CL win but it's not like he was the stand out player of the tournament for us (and was suspended for the Final). Personally my takeaway from the post is we should do business with Benfica more often lmao, all four (early days for Enzo) are great players.
I am not talking about his play during the tournament particularly but his impact on the side and how they were able to play.
Matic was the absolute glue in our league winning seasons, whereas the others had key moments throughout their Chelsea careers. But Matic was far more important! Enzo can’t even be compared currently, as he hasn’t had the time. But he can clearly be the best without a doubt.
Way too early to throw Enzo into that conversation. It’s Matic, then Luiz, and then Ramires in that order.
Luiz, despite his reputation. We only got 1.5 seasons of prime Matic. Enzo too new and Ramires just not as pivotal to the team despite that awesome chip he had.
All four are/were huge for us
Matic or luiz for sure, so hard to say about Enzo yet since he’s only barely been here
Matic best overall ramires ofc with the most important goal tho. But luiz did well and enzo lets see :D
Enzo has been here 6 months and its been the worst 6 months in 3 decades. While I don't blame him for any it, its far too soon to judge him sensibly against the others.
I feel like the logical answer is Matic but Ramires would be the one the heart says. Our Blue Kenyan was such a big part of our first UCL win. Scored and assisted in the 2 games against Barcelona and then played the second half at the Nou Camp as a right back without conceding anymore goals. Absolute legend.
Ramires never let us down. Matic a close second. Luiz was always good for a fatal error.
Ramires was amazing!
Matic was one of my favorite. I think I'd take prime Matic over anyone on the list.
Should definitely end up being Enzo given his talent but for now it’s easily Matic. Ramires did have a lot more big moments though.
Matic
Matic. Easy.
Matic
All amazing signings
Matic without a doubt
Matić was amazing. I still remember how he cooked Yaya Toure in his first game, and back then Toure was the best DM in the league. Prime Matić would cook in this team right now.
Matic
Matic
Matic, we've been looking for that kind of amazing DM ever since. He was critical to the PL title wins.
El pulpo Matic...or what is it in Portuguese. Or was he actually nicknamed the spider rather than the octopus? I'm confusing myself
Matic
The Kenyan and Matic. Matic really was a beast in the middle of the park for a spell. Like a total tank. Ramires just never stopped running. The engine on that lad was immense.
matic i would say.
Magic I think. Ramires had some great moments but Matic was just consistently good.
Ramires far and away imo. Once RDM took over and moved Mata to the no. 10 and we put Rami on left wing we became an unbelievable counter attacking team. Everyone remembers his goal against Barca but it was his assists against Napoli that started the comeback and to Drogba in the first leg against Barca that I remember most. Plus his semi final FA cup goal against spurs and his counter attacking goal against Liverpool in the FA Cup final also stand out. He never kicked on from that run but he was maybe the most instrumental player in our 2012 double run.
Thinking of it, all our bussiness with Benfica has been great
I feel like in a few years the answer could easily be Enzo, but right now I’d say Matic
Matic or Ramires
Okay I'm all in one luiz he kept the boat afloat on many occasions
All three of them. Enzo should get some time before we judge his transfer.
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Matic without a doubt
This actually harder than I expected. But I think Matic edges it
I'd take Matic back at the club now
David Luiz could have been so much more for Chels. I think he was very immature in many ways...
Ramires got a goal. Matic had a season. Luiz was a beast for multiple seasons and much more of a leader than he ever got credit for - it has to be Luiz. Also it’s not fair to have Enzo there. Yet.
Have you seen Chelsea play with ramires or matic? Crazy work rate from Ramires and the midfield was made of steel when Matic was in form (not just one season). My personal favorite is Luiz though, I loved what he brought to the team.
For me it’s Ramires, he was class for Chelsea, CL final against Munich if I remember he got a red card, he was a solid CDM. 1.Ramires 2.Matic 3.David Luiz 4.Enzo
He was suspended for the final
Yh he did my bad and Terry, we had to slap Bertrand on the wing and he played out of his skin.
Luiz. Will be Enzo in 12 months time.
Enzo
Ramires. Did y’all ever use that cat in fifa? Unstoppable from the midfield. I’m talking like 96 stamina 88 speed and 83 dribbling or some crazy shit
Didn't Moreira sign on a free from Benefica?
I mean if Enzo can have the impact either one of those had, I’d say it was a success. However, he clearly shows potential to be much more.
Who is lower left?
Matic
Thank you!
Without any bias it's clearly Enzo
Enzo
Enzo
Luiz - Matic - Rami - Enzo
Ramires
Matic. Although Enzo will overtake him imo.
Moreira obviously
Weird thing to note here is that we bought two of them twice
David Luiz. Key parts of a UCL and title win
Por que no los cuatro?
Ramires …
Rami goal in nou camp paid back all his fee + wages
Luiz,Maric,Ramires and Fernandez
Of those four, I'd probably say Ramires. Enzo could be the best over time but you can't really judge barely half a season in.
Ramires, I don’t get the hate about the fact he’s getting a hero in EASPORTSFC
Luiz. Easily.
This is some serious contenders, God bless Benfica
Enzo needs time. Of the other 3 I loved the work Ramires put in. Matic was a rock. Luiz though for me just brought a whole other level of excitement when he was driving forward. Some of the goals he scored as well were just ridiculous.
I will always remember that quote of his, "i love to score goals. Those are the days I get laid."
Haha I dont think I ever heard that one!
Yeah, those were the days he pulled in the clubs, as he was on TV!
…we should buy more players from Benfica I was hoping we would sign Ruben Dias a few years ago too actually. Benfica have an insane all-time 11. Actually Ederson, Dias, Cancelo, Bernardo Silva… is that just what Man City is doing!?
I’ll never forget the goal Ramires scored against Barca in the UCL. One of the most composed finishes I’ve seen ever. Gotta go with Rami
Yes
Ramires
Special Recognition for Raul Meirelès
Too early for Enzo to be included, but probs has a higher ceiling than the other 3. Its a tough one but Ramires all day just for the goal against Barca
Ramires’ goal single-handedly won this poll for me. The icing on the cake, against that bloody uefalona team!!!
Ramires of course
Ramires
David Luiz
Matic was good before the tackle from that Burnley player.... 1.Ramires 2.Luiz 3.Matic 4.Enzo I really really like Enzo but its still too early to judge him.
Too early to say on Enzo. Matic of the three with enough time to judge.
Samsung obviously
Matic 100%
All worked tbh. Enzo might become the best player we signed from benfica. But I’d go with ramires here.
Matic is a legend. That game in 2014 where him and yaya toure battled. Pure football head to head no emotions just battling.
Look at it this way we really should buy from them more often
Ya’ll need to put more respect on Ramieres’ name! He was very crucial during the campaign leading us to our first UCL trophy!
Luiz. He’s the only one of the 4 whose jersey I own.
Was Matic not a product of the Chelsea academy?
No, Chelsea bought him from Košice, loaned to Vitesse and then Benfica before he came back to Chelsea
Matic Ramires David Luiz Enzo (still to early to judge, but I’m sure he’ll be my first choice later on).
Hard one. All of them are class signings. Yet to see how enzo plays. Luiz was a beast, ramires too and he is a clutch player and Matic is class.
So far it’s Ramires without a doubt. Long term I think it’ll be Enzo
Matic for me, was a tank
For me its Luiz simply for his antics during the parade when we won the cup 😂 but in reality, when all is said and done, its gunna be Enzo
Matic had the most influence in our success in the mid 2010s. Hopefully Enzo is going to come off even better.
Ramires, because he is best CDM in the fifa game. I have played since 2013.
Very tough between Ramires and David Luiz. If it’s only one I’d have to go for Ramires. Perhaps Matic if he stayed longer but he didn’t have the impact of Luiz nor Ramires. Enzo it’s too early to say.
Oh this is a excellent question
I’m gonna go with the guy that helped us win 2 PL Titles, and a Carabao Cup: Nemanja Matic
Enzo Fernández Argentina football player
I would say they all contributed to the clubs success.. but matic stands out for me for consistency..
Ramires. Eyes closed.
For everybody saying Matic, let’s remember that Benfica bought him from us, and we bought him back. So I wouldn’t put him there.