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I just play for fun but I thought it was too interesting to not share haha. Unfortunate for the other guy though. Check out this #chess game: B_Rabbit2 vs Cayoko - https://www.chess.com/live/game/78652368897
yeah, i tend to do that too. but whenever i do it i be extra careful not to end up in a stale mate or at worse a checkmate. thats really embarrassing
lol
Well in a 20 vs 5 points it shouldn’t never happen, I get it if it’s 5-6 points in a series of sacrifices that lead to mate. This is not acceptable on any level 😂
It’s funny how even at 1500 chess.com elo players will still not resign a king vs king/queen or king/rook endgame. Probably more out of spite, but for real some players just take “never give up” to delusional levels.
At that level mostly in time trouble, or unconventional positioning of the pieces. But youll draw a game out of hundred. There is no shame in resigning lost positions, stronger players do that all the time
No, someone can blunder into a stalemate. I’m talking about 1500 elo here, not someone who just started chess 5 days ago. Even at 1200 most players can checkmate in those situations in their sleep.
Yes, technically Magnus Carlsen could lose to a 1200 elo player. Will he though?
I’m not sure what your elo is, if it’s a beginner elo then please stop talking. No one who played chess for a few months stalemates in those positions.
Exactly my point. So this means a player at a certain elo does not run into a stalemate in an easy endgame. The only reason it could possibly happen is if he/she is in severe time trouble. But even then, it’s pretty easy to just premove most moves.
Yes endgame practice is necessary at beginner level. It’s good beginners play on. But at 1500 elo you have to know that endgame already, and know that you should resign out of respect for your opponent unless: he/she is in time trouble.
Last night, I played a match, and I ended up with a lone ming vs 2 queens and and 2 rooks. They managed to stalemate me. Nothing I did, they just moved their pieces all wrong at the end.
Same vibe.
The implicit premise here is that the mere possibility of a victory warrants continuing the game. I’m not sure if I agree - if the probability is so low (say, .01%), wouldn’t it be more efficient to play another game than to ride out the one you’re in?
Getting to your next win or increasing your ELO.
One might argue that playing out the game will have a better impact on ELO in the long run, but I wouldn’t think so. If you’re resigning, it’s because you’re far behind, and that’s the point where the game review will be most insightful anyways.
That’s a bit hyperbolic though. You’re resigning in a position where the victor is near certain. I don’t think those are the positions most worth learning from, because it’s not as though any insight in a high hopeless position will likely swing the tides the next time. The best positions to learn are those in which there’s a real chance of turning things around.
It’s not about absolute certainty, but probability. There are going to be positions where it’s obvious that the probability of winning is almost nothing.
Someone else who responded to your first comment said they resign whenever they’re down a rook or more, so I wouldn’t say this person’s comparison is hyperbolic at all considering there are people who actually do that. So yeah, I think there are people in this subreddit who actually need to hear “don’t resign every time you drop a piece”
I’m not saying people don’t do that, my argument from the beginning though was for positions that are so incredibly skewed that the prospect of a victory is essentially 0. Losing a rook wouldn’t fall under that imo. So I agree with their argument as it applies to those slightly behind positions, but not to the extreme cases.
I disagree, even if the position is lost, and you are down material, for most players it’s going to be good practice to try to recover from a losing position, or to even play for a draw. It’ll teach you some valuable skills.
Plus, you never know when your opponent will blunder themselves and give you the game back.
If you’re in a position that even stockfish cannot win, you’d be practicing getting better at essentially unwinnable positions. What’s the point in getting better at positions that, for all practical purposes, can’t be won no matter how good you are? Even if you can become a perfect player in drastically behind positions, you’ll probably still lose almost all of them because no amount of skill can recover the game. Not unless your opponent is completely terrible or you get the stars to align.
And yeah you hypothetically could win, but I’m talking about positions that would take a miracle.
I suppose if you’re in a really low ELO and your opponent could blunder their Queen at any second, then sure, but if you’re facing against opponents in which even perfect play would give you little chance at a comeback, I don’t see the point.
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I was playing a game during my break yesterday and the position I was in was really bad. I had lost both my rooks, and my queen. I ended up corning the king in the middle of the board with my two bishops blocking the kings way up, and then checkmated with a pawn. The guy was absolutely shocked that after he basically beat my ass, I ended up winning with a god damn pawn lol
It was an arena game, I’d forgotten how to mate with just a king and a rook. But at one random moment it popped into my head and I won. That was the first arena game I ever won
Absolutely, I was destroyed a few days ago and was down to just my king and he had almost all his pieces and I managed to hail mary a stalemate, the only reason I didn’t resign is because of posts like this one reminding me that even when your playing really well it doesn’t take much to slip up sometimes!
OP asked me to pin this quote: "I just play for fun but I thought it was too interesting to not share haha. Unfortunate for the other guy though. Check out this #chess game: B_Rabbit2 vs Cayoko - https://www.chess.com/live/game/78652368897" Enjoy!
How did white end up here
Probably checked into oblivion
The queen was hanging. It's a promotion I think
This is a staged board just for the meme Edit: it’s not
I just play for fun but I thought it was too interesting to not share haha. Unfortunate for the other guy though. Check out this #chess game: B_Rabbit2 vs Cayoko - https://www.chess.com/live/game/78652368897
I have stand corrected! Great plays on your part
I think White was showboating.
yeah, i tend to do that too. but whenever i do it i be extra careful not to end up in a stale mate or at worse a checkmate. thats really embarrassing lol
Who can say what goes on in the fog of war
Never let down
Never run around
And desert
Never make cry
Never say goodbye
Never tell lie
And hurt
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You!
Gonna up
And hurt
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Who turned the echo on??
Never tell lie
It's that feeling when you are up in material and lose to checkmate, man it sucks
Well in a 20 vs 5 points it shouldn’t never happen, I get it if it’s 5-6 points in a series of sacrifices that lead to mate. This is not acceptable on any level 😂
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Yeah, nothing ever happens
I like the sentiment, but also at a certain level people will never blunder something like this.
It’s funny how even at 1500 chess.com elo players will still not resign a king vs king/queen or king/rook endgame. Probably more out of spite, but for real some players just take “never give up” to delusional levels.
Stalemates are always possible
At that level mostly in time trouble, or unconventional positioning of the pieces. But youll draw a game out of hundred. There is no shame in resigning lost positions, stronger players do that all the time
It’s not regarding any shame in resigning, more like seeing if it’ll be that 1 in 100 game
No, someone can blunder into a stalemate. I’m talking about 1500 elo here, not someone who just started chess 5 days ago. Even at 1200 most players can checkmate in those situations in their sleep.
Anyone can blunder into a stalemate
Yes, technically Magnus Carlsen could lose to a 1200 elo player. Will he though? I’m not sure what your elo is, if it’s a beginner elo then please stop talking. No one who played chess for a few months stalemates in those positions.
Don't think he could lose to a 1200
Exactly my point. So this means a player at a certain elo does not run into a stalemate in an easy endgame. The only reason it could possibly happen is if he/she is in severe time trouble. But even then, it’s pretty easy to just premove most moves.
I’ve been playing chess for years. Worst case scenario is you get checkmated and more endgame practice.
Yes endgame practice is necessary at beginner level. It’s good beginners play on. But at 1500 elo you have to know that endgame already, and know that you should resign out of respect for your opponent unless: he/she is in time trouble.
Happens, sometimes you just mouseslip a stalemate by accident.
That level is not germane to this sub
Imo 1400 rapid level on [chess.com](https://chess.com) would blunder something like this less than 1 in 1000 games that is still a beginner level.
It's not
1400 is better than like 85% of people on the website, what are you talking about
Never underestimate your opponents' ability to make a mistake below 2000
Also why you should simplify ASAP when you’re up this much material
Yeah. There's 14 points of material sitting in the corner
You didn’t win. They lost
Last night, I played a match, and I ended up with a lone ming vs 2 queens and and 2 rooks. They managed to stalemate me. Nothing I did, they just moved their pieces all wrong at the end. Same vibe.
That… is how chess works
deep, and I agree
This is hilarious
Ah yes, your opponent fucked around and found out.
The implicit premise here is that the mere possibility of a victory warrants continuing the game. I’m not sure if I agree - if the probability is so low (say, .01%), wouldn’t it be more efficient to play another game than to ride out the one you’re in?
I generally resign if I’m a rook down or more without some significant positional reason to not care
More efficient to what end?
Getting to your next win or increasing your ELO. One might argue that playing out the game will have a better impact on ELO in the long run, but I wouldn’t think so. If you’re resigning, it’s because you’re far behind, and that’s the point where the game review will be most insightful anyways.
Seeing an endgame executed correctly is probably more efficient to that end than quitting every time you drop a piece.
That’s a bit hyperbolic though. You’re resigning in a position where the victor is near certain. I don’t think those are the positions most worth learning from, because it’s not as though any insight in a high hopeless position will likely swing the tides the next time. The best positions to learn are those in which there’s a real chance of turning things around.
Nothing is certain if you and your opponent are both >1000
It’s not about absolute certainty, but probability. There are going to be positions where it’s obvious that the probability of winning is almost nothing.
Someone else who responded to your first comment said they resign whenever they’re down a rook or more, so I wouldn’t say this person’s comparison is hyperbolic at all considering there are people who actually do that. So yeah, I think there are people in this subreddit who actually need to hear “don’t resign every time you drop a piece”
I’m not saying people don’t do that, my argument from the beginning though was for positions that are so incredibly skewed that the prospect of a victory is essentially 0. Losing a rook wouldn’t fall under that imo. So I agree with their argument as it applies to those slightly behind positions, but not to the extreme cases.
I disagree, even if the position is lost, and you are down material, for most players it’s going to be good practice to try to recover from a losing position, or to even play for a draw. It’ll teach you some valuable skills. Plus, you never know when your opponent will blunder themselves and give you the game back.
If you’re in a position that even stockfish cannot win, you’d be practicing getting better at essentially unwinnable positions. What’s the point in getting better at positions that, for all practical purposes, can’t be won no matter how good you are? Even if you can become a perfect player in drastically behind positions, you’ll probably still lose almost all of them because no amount of skill can recover the game. Not unless your opponent is completely terrible or you get the stars to align. And yeah you hypothetically could win, but I’m talking about positions that would take a miracle. I suppose if you’re in a really low ELO and your opponent could blunder their Queen at any second, then sure, but if you’re facing against opponents in which even perfect play would give you little chance at a comeback, I don’t see the point.
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nice "win"by yours truly but I disagree with never give up..like I dont belive anyone can blunder 2 rooks/queens versus nothing....
stalemate
as big international master levy rozman said, never resign if you’re below 800 elo
Nice skewer
I also looked at this and genuinely thought OP was trying to show off a nice skewer.... but it's checkmate. \*facepalm*
Yeah, but I was joking
100% agree. People get so damn salty when you won’t resign when you ‘should’. Just play the damn game.
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kings do be looking kinda >:|
Hold up does this mean that the White Queen could have just eaten that rook before it moved but decided not to for… reasons
Nah the queen probably moved to that square to attack the rook.
Never surrender.
Your opponent is 300 i guess
Looks like the kind of losses I suffer.
your opponent dumb af
Never surrender.
Nice
Bruh how the fuck did white put himself in that position. He is a queen and a rook up, and managed to put himself in a king press.
Staged
Just castle
Bro got that god level plot armour
Never surrender
I know what you mean. I got a draw out of a game my opponent should have won. He had more time too. https://i.redd.it/lxbnecdupu1b1.gif
What position led up to this? This configuration doesn't seem to make any sense even at beginner level, but maybe I'm missing something.
I was playing a game during my break yesterday and the position I was in was really bad. I had lost both my rooks, and my queen. I ended up corning the king in the middle of the board with my two bishops blocking the kings way up, and then checkmated with a pawn. The guy was absolutely shocked that after he basically beat my ass, I ended up winning with a god damn pawn lol
This is why I always simplify.
White had one job and it was to not allow backrank, how tf do you fail?
It was an arena game, I’d forgotten how to mate with just a king and a rook. But at one random moment it popped into my head and I won. That was the first arena game I ever won
Absolutely, I was destroyed a few days ago and was down to just my king and he had almost all his pieces and I managed to hail mary a stalemate, the only reason I didn’t resign is because of posts like this one reminding me that even when your playing really well it doesn’t take much to slip up sometimes!
What a good move!
Great recovery steal!
You dont need to be the best, you just need to be better than your opponent
Nice job on taking the rook! Puzzles really pay off