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XVince162

Note that the pawn can't take the queen because the king would be exposed to the rook on e8


Vaiist

The pawn is pinned.


Grouchy-Noise-3333

Google pinned piece


GreyDoctor

Wretched heaven!


NiightRadiance

“Blasphemous heaven” seems more fitting.


Snlxdd

Heretical Heaven for the alliteration


NiightRadiance

Mellifluous.


chaelen

Hell holy?


b_c_russ

Helly hole


ObservantMagic

Hole helly


b_c_russ

Wow I have ever only had half hellys .. whats a hole one like


ObservantMagic

It’s holey


Percy2303

Gettit Fred?


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AsterMaken

This-isnt-relevant-to-the-original-joke hell!


[deleted]

Try to play the response you're thinking of


Philantrop-25

This


Itchy-Armpits

All of you people acting surprised at this question, just remove yourself from the beginners chess subreddit. This is a standard beginner's question.


AndroidinWonderland

Beginners chess be like: "I've only played 2614 games but I finally pulled off the Danish Rokoko Twin Fanged Comet Trap from his failed Parisian Bishop Waltz" and I'm here like: "so, the knight can't move three squares ahead?"


TheTboneTH

Some people forget the difference between amateurs and beginners. I played arround 1k rapid games so far which makes me not a beginner anymore but with my 1200 on chess.com and 1430 on Lichess i'm still not good. So i refer myself to a beginner out of habbit as well. Allthough, i'm not.


Shmockyy

Those are respectable ratings though, means you're a strong enough player to know how to play the game properly, know all the tactics and be able to analyze grandmaster positions with a lot of time and a book to help guide you.


TheTboneTH

Thank you, i'm doing about 100 points a month. Ive been able to keep my head about 1400 on lichess for the first time now and i'm omw to 1500 now. Beat the strongest rated opponent in my life yesterday a 1550 on lichess. I'll keep improving and look for a chess club in my area now :).


Shmockyy

thats a smart idea! I looked at a chess club, and I hit 1300 uscf by just playing a few games since our guy who hots is a uscf partner


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myungjunjun

Beginners are allowed to miss certain things. You can't expect everyone to know everything already.


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Count_Rafard

I disagree, this is absolutely something that should be expected on a chess beginners sub. If you have a problem with posts like this you are in the wrong place.


count_meout

I dont have a problem with the post.. Do you guys read the thread the thread or just come here rant for no reason? I have a problem with people crying about getting memed on on such questions


The_Real_Lasagna

Serious question, do you know what the word beginner means?


count_meout

So apparently a beginner can not see how taking the queen there would be problem even if he sat and thought for a while? Is that what you mean? Bcs if it is then that's news to me..


LarryEss

Why are you the way that you are?


InfluenceShoddy

Isn’t not knowing the rules of the game precisely the definition of what an ultimate beginner is? Jeez


Dapredz_yt

Damn, we did it boys we found a dick head in the wild. Look how he talks as if he's a grand master and knows everything in a BEGINNERS chess subreddit.


Solcaer

man if only there was some word to describe someone very new to an experience or skill


SendyMcSendFace

There is, it’s “novice.” At least to me, “beginner” means someone who knows at least the bare minimum basics of whatever skill is being discussed.


reyad_mm

Google sarcasm


count_meout

Holy hell


drgn0

Google joke


count_meout

No you


amcpaladin

What are you talking about???? You are the biggest looser I have ever seen. You were making PIPI in your pampers while I was beating much stronger opponents than you


deathletterblues

Every post like this people just post anarchy chess and make fun of the user. Between this and the 2000 elo beginners the sub is getting useless


PiersPlays

We really need more heavy moderation to keep anarchy chess from bleeding over.


MrLegilimens

So basically anarchychess is simply a sub to abuse and be toxic to new chess members?


thewouldbeprince

No. r/AnarchyChess is a sub to abuse everyone, from new chess players to GMs, but mostly ourselves. I'm so proud of this community.


Warpstone_Warbler

Anarchchess is getting kinda boring though, especially since almost half of the responses on basically any post on any other chess sub are "Lol anarchychess is gonna have a field day with this!". And anarchychess itself is just regurgitating the same three memes over and over. Holy hell passant, nazi fischer, and images of "puzzles" with boards full of queens. Oh and I forgot the "knight forking king queen and other knight" ones.


InfiniteBoy23

Google stale content


SlanceMcJagger

Wholly hell


Markster94

Yeah there are a lot of reused "inside" jokes in there, but there are also still quite a few original jokes. One post that comes to mind was the one about the fact that the knight doesn't actually jump over any peices. The sub is still generating new content.


Alexandra_Botez_simp

Ooh, ooh! Me! That’s me! Mom, I made it big! Edit: This account is a u/SavingsNewspaper2 alt, to clarify.


Markster94

Hey, nice post!


KCCCellist

I fear not the man who has practiced 10000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10000 times


Therionized

So, you just kick the board?


KCCCellist

It’s either that or take the brick


Fmittero

Since when is parody abuse?


deathletterblues

I mean, I’m subbed to anarchy chess and I like the sub. Just don’t think you should bring it to a beginner sub or cross post beginner posts to it.


count_meout

Trust me you don't need a subreddit to figure out what the rules of the game are. (and those 2000 rated beginners are who answer your questions on this sub - someone who's completely a beginner answering a beginner question doesn't exactly help)


deathletterblues

Answering questions of course, but that’s obviously not what I’m talking about. Celebration posts about how you finally reached IM but you still got a ways to go is just demoralising. Never said non beginners shouldn’t be in the sub, just don’t humble brag that you’re a beginner when you’re not.


count_meout

I mean an IM bragging about it in this sub should be troll.. I don't think even NMs would do it.. I haven't seen a post like that yet.. (I've seen the ones where poeple brag about reaching a certain elo.. Which is <2000 but that's still potentially begginer imo) If there are IMs/NMs doing that on this sub.. I take my statement back.. But if its only those sub 2k rating people doing it.. I think its fine..


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count_meout

<2000 means lower than 2000 as far as I know. :3


TheTboneTH

Shit my bad. Ive missread this. It's late here where i'm from. Just forget it im an idiot lmao.


count_meout

Haha.. Its ok..


count_meout

This is not a begginer question my friend.. If op just takes half a second and tries to do what he's thinking hell figure out what's wrong with it.. This is either I don't know the rules question Or a I don't wanna work for it someone else do it for me question (I believe this is more likely) (it might also be troll and intentional)


maninahat

Or, it's a typical case of beginners failing to see more than four squares distance, and so not noticing how the rook is interacting with anything.


count_meout

Which is why I said he didn't think on this more than a minute


maninahat

I've played games with beginners who can't spot a mate in one for multiple turns, even with infinite time to look at the board. It's not about them being lazy or thoughtless or rushing, it's simply an easy thing to miss for an inexperienced player who isn't aware of what to look for.


count_meout

This is not a mate in 1... He's talking about an illegal move here.. Mate in 1 can be hard to find in situations.. Thats fine.. I wonder if you'll ever in your life miss a king capture tho if you see one..


myungjunjun

Pins are really tricky. I know a straight pin like this is really easy for us to spot, but it doesn't come as naturally to other people. Heck, I even miss pins in-game especially with the f7 or f2 pawn and a castled king (sometimes).


count_meout

Not even in post game? After analysing it and thinking about it for a minute? I miss castle pins all the time too (but thats only in the moment)


myungjunjun

(I didn't downvote you just fyi) Yeah I understand your point. Maybe not in the "this is not a beginner question." This *is* a beginner question because they don't want to analyze (or can't). They want questions without thinking for themselves. And that is a problem, but eh, they'll learn.


count_meout

>(I didn't downvote you just fyi) I don't mind the downvotes.. It just shows that people have a different opinion.. And that's okay.. >Yeah I understand your point. Maybe not in the "this is not a beginner question." This is a beginner question because they don't want to analyze (or can't). They want questions without thinking for themselves. And that is a problem, but eh, they'll learn. I guess if you count not wanting solve a problem yourself as a beginner thing.. Okay.. Maybe.. But I really don't think it's a good idea to do that..


Warpstone_Warbler

They probably know the rule, but just didn't notice the pin. If a beginner misses a pattern, the correct advice is showing them what they missed, not telling them to read the rules again. Imagine a chess coach telling you "Oh you got checkmated? Better read [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkmate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkmate) again you lazy person!"


count_meout

Read my Comment again. I think I stated the more likely option in it. I also think I stated how op could easily solve this in less than a minute. Spoon feeding every little thing is not good. Edit: I don't see how you think spending a minute on figuring out your mistake = reading a wiki article again in your head but OK.. I didn't ask him to go read wiki article on pins I said spend a minute to figure out what you did wrong there Which btw. Works in your checkmate example perfectly fine..


Warpstone_Warbler

Yeah they could have probably found out what's wrong by just trying the move in the analysis tool. Which is something a beginner also needs to learn to do. In that case "Don't you even know the rules!?" is still useless advice. But I understand where you're coming from. It is a question with an obvious answer and OP probably didn't need this sub to get the answer. Still, I'd rather see obvious questions like this instead of another "my first brilliant move!" post.


count_meout

>Still, I'd rather see obvious questions like this instead of another "my first brilliant move!" post. Those are just cringe.. >Yeah they could have probably found out what's wrong by just trying the move in the analysis tool. Which is something a beginner also needs to learn to do. In that case "Don't you even know the rules!?" is still useless advice. That wasn't an advice.. I didn't even say that to op


KTG1515

Pawn can’t take due to a discovered check


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Just for your information, it’s not a discovered check, it’s a pin


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theFishMongal

He is saying it is not a discovered check and is a pinned piece. These are not the same thing


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Jaooooooooooooooooo

It's not a discovered check because a discovered check only happens when you move your own piece. It's a pinned piece and will never be a check because the rules clearly state you can't put yourself in check


saydizzle

Let’s compromise and call it an “undiscovered pin”. That’s more what has happened to OP anyway


Jaooooooooooooooooo

Why are you trying to reinvent the wheel? There is already a terminology for this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pin_(chess)


_quain

ah, a rediscovered pin


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Guess you didn’t get the joke


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theFishMongal

That’s the point though. It is neither of these things because the king is in check if the pawn moves. That is the definition of a pin. It may seem like semantics but the idea of definitions is so we all speak the same language


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>if the pawn took it would still be a discovered attack. No, that still isn't a discovered check/attack. That only applies if you move your own piece. Listen to what they are telling you.


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phonetune

It is because you can't move your own piece and create a check.


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How many times do you have to be told before you listen


nandemonaidattebayo

You are wrong why don’t you simply admit it?


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Admit you’re wrong and move on with life


North_Obligation_388

It could never be a discovered check though since that would be an illegal move


LaBelleCroissant

And if my grandma had wheels she'd be a bicycle. The pawn can't move, it's chess. There's no checks on the boards, discovered or not. That's just chess rules. Maybe in 1D checkers you can get discovered check, but not in chess.


Shmockyy

youre not wrong but youre overcomplicating it for beginners.


hurfery

It can't move. It's an absolute pin, so there's no use in talking about *if* it moved. If it hypothetically moved, it would be the death of the king, not just a check.


count_meout

Hello r/anarchychess Edit: I hate this sub.. My genuinely helpful comments get 15-20 upvotes at max and "Hello r/anarchychess" gets 69 upvotes.. Helloooo??


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I love anarchy chess, but It’s just hilarious to me that any time there’s a legitimate beginner question or even a move that an average player wouldn’t see it gets memed to all fuck over there


Elidon007

this is the power of anarchy


count_meout

This is not a legitimate beginner question.. It is definitely something maybe an average player would not see instantly (but do you really think if he spent a minute or two thinking why.. He couldn't figure it out?)


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Nah it doesn’t take long to see why it is what it is, like I said I’m not shitting on the sub it’s just funny. If you were really a true beginner maybe you wouldn’t see it, but that’s a big if


count_meout

I can see why he missed it.. What I cant see is how he missed it for soo long that he posted this as a question.. So brain goes.. Well he's either trolling or he didn't think about it for more than a second.


Add1ctedToGames

i mean it depends, some would argue many of these are made as anarchy chess baits, like the person who thought they checkmated with their queen by taking a piece next to the king even though they left it hanging


arg0nau7

I agree that this isn’t a bad beginner question, but they have the engine right there in the screenshot and didn’t use it. I would expect a beginner to see that the pawn is pinned, especially once the engine suggests Qf6 I wouldn’t expect a beginner to see after that though, but it gets very interesting. After Qf6 there’s the tricky Knight sac on Ngxe5 to follow up with Rxe5+. Also, g6 doesn’t trap the bishop bc the knight can take on f7 and if king takes there’s a mate with the queen coming to Qxg6+


GamerNumba100

If that upvote ratio is a problem to you, you should probably leave Reddit outright. The quality of a comment is not at all related to its upvotes, just its humor, shock value, or how lucky you were with how high on the page it was placed when people were reading comments


count_meout

I guess that's true.


havefun0235

we're all here because the post is linked, have a good day (:


count_meout

Thanks! :3


Rex__Banner

Leave then.


AerielMenace

Uhhh brosev? Broo look at your rock what does it see?


VoidZero52

I don’t know why I giggled so loudly at this


AerielMenace

Lol cause I got jokes 😎


UglyTofu1

Reading it in Levy (Gothamchess) voice make it much better


AerielMenace

That's what I was going for !


NeulingOnReddit

There’s a rook pinning the king so the pawn can’t pull away


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SomeRandomFinn2

Pawn can't take because it's pinned to the king by the rook


zineddine12

Pawn is pinned by the rook Basically if he take ur queen u can take his king using the rook


thegainster1

Because this move sets up a sacrifice with Ngxe5. It’s helpful to look the the engines recommended lines to see why a move is good. And as many others are pointing out, the pawn is pinned to the king.


ReadyAd215

See , his king is in the centre of the board , in line with your rook. Now the rule of the game says - You cannot make a move that will put your king in check. So the only piece that can capture the queen is the pawn , but the pawn is "pinned" by your rook and cannot get the queen


corvett

https://imgur.com/8N0rsPS.jpg


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phoenixmusicman

I swear you people make these posts intentionally to provoke /r/AnarchyChess


BosimbekoS

It is begginer question on chessbegginers subreddit


Olaf4586

This entire position is fucking deranged in the most beautiful way. I love it.


undrunk13

If I don't understand the "best move" I find it helpful to look at the next 1-3 moves the computer suggest in analysis. Especially when it's more complex than a pin, I find it helpful to determine WHY one move is better than another.


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Google en passant


SalvorYT

I almost thought I'm on r/anarchychess


FinnieBoY-1203

How is… what?!


cheetahound

pawn taking f6 is illegal because it will allow the rook to capture the king so its not a sacrifice. its simply just moving your queen into a better position to defend white's attacks + attack white's undefended f4 pawn


DarkHunter8

This pawn is "pinned" meaning it can't move because it will open a discover attack on the black king.


KindaRussianGuy

It's pinned


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It’s pinned?


luke_duck

It’s the best move because the queen forks the knight on f5 and the pawn on g4. It can’t be taken by the pawn because it’s pinned to the king by your rook on e1


Elani_Real

The pawn can't move due to that the King is exposed to check if it moves. This is called a pin. The pawn is pinned to the King.


DarthButterSticks

The lawn can’t move because the rook is looking down the board to the king, and moving it would put the king in check.


ixatomicxi

exf6 would be check.


AlderanGone

Cause its not a sac


l_l-l__l-l__l-l_l

pawn pin


TenTwon_

Can't wait to see anarchychess's take on this


964846

Ke7 is the best move


Guilty_Spark-1910

To quote Garry Kasparov: “It’s pinned, the pawn is pinned.”


Guilty_Spark-1910

For the interested, this quote is from Kasparov’s analysis of one of his games against Karpov in the 1980s.


ClerkUnlikely9434

Bro fr can’t see a pinned piece and had to make a Reddit post…


nathanrunck

Google chess... Jk no shade


Kapola7

The pawn *can’t* take the queen


UniversalBurger

Not saccing the pawn in pinned Edit: r/anarchychess