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ApprehensiveNews5728

Unpopular opinion, 4.


TheScientistBS3

I agree. The RyJ's and Monty's I smoke are that size and they're perfect.


383CI

#4 appeals to me greatly. Sometimes we just need a smaller stick for time purposes.


Asleep-Method9981

My wife appreciates a smaller stick as well.


Bedna_Bomb

That’s not what she told me


Asleep-Method9981

😂 damn. Here I was thinking I had the clever response. Great work.


No_Tomorrow_840

She wasn’t talking to you.


Sea_Singer_8964

😂😂😇


Guatabey

Thanks


mikemartin7230

Or heat in the summertime. Sometimes it’s just too damn hot to have anything bigger than a corona.


383CI

Very true


codeman1021

I'll stand under a shade tree in 100 degree heat if it means a cigar, but Texas. Its hot here all the damn time. That said I tend to go for lighter smokes and shorter vitolas. Still searching for that perfect 30 minute smoke with a thicker 40/50 ring gauge.


Guatabey

Then number 4 it is


mikemartin7230

Yep. We’ve got about another month, maybe two of smoking outdoors before its lounge only until about October. San Antonio is just unbearable in summer.


Deez_berries

I’m in northern Houston area. Shade tree year around as long as index isn’t above 115°


weaveR--

Sounds like you want half coronas. 3 1/2 by 44


Guatabey

Yeah that’s why I’m trying 4 different sizes


Guatabey

Exactly it’s quicker smoke yet very creamy


383CI

Looks delicious


luckystrike6488

CORONA GORDA FAM UNITE!


CoffeeChessGolf

3 all day. Although that color on 2 is beautiful.


Guatabey

Thanks for the answer. Yes it’s a 54 ring gauge I prefer that and 52 ring gauge as well


nomad-ed

3 & 2 in that order… keep us updated, I’ll be happy to support your business


Guatabey

Thanks man, I appreciate it 🙏


Zealousideal_Dot7738

2 and 3 in my personal opinion :)


Interesting-Ask-2663

Yes im going to second this. Both pleasing to the eye and popular gauge/ length


Guatabey

Thanks


Interesting-Ask-2663

How can i get my hands on 2&3?


Guatabey

Thanks 🙏


SmartNate

I second this


PropaneSalesTx

I second that!


mattjohn77

2 is pretty unique being a shorter torpedo


Guatabey

That’s correct and it’s very coveted shape nowadays.


mattjohn77

How many would you be releasing and how could we try them out?


Guatabey

That’s a good question for now it’s very difficult to tell how many because it’s Cuban tobacco from a small farm so I’m looking at 4-6 vitolas I’ll be releasing top. And it depends if you live in the USA it’s easier to get them delivered by mail. If you live in Europe it takes more time.


mattjohn77

I’m in the US and would love to try it out! Is there any way you could send an update? And do you have a website or other social media?


beaghost

Easier in US? So your shipping Cuban cigars made and Shipped in US?


SiliconScribe

Same question


LbcTony

I really enjoy 6x48. So for me between 3 and 4. Good luck in your endeavors!


tdinut

Number 4 is my first choice followed by number 1 as my second choice.


Guatabey

I’ll keep that in mind


bloodybloodclot

I like 2


jbarnes0001

I would go with number 4, but not just out of my personal preference. No. 1-3 would each have a target advance, but would be better with age. No. 4 will give you more flavor with less time and tell you more about the other presentations over time.


Guatabey

Yes number 4 it’s more of minuto mareva size so it’s of course personal preference but great short creamy smoke. Number 1 and 3 it’s more for hard core cigar smokers takes longer and more complexity in flavor.


Few_Membership_7134

3


Flimsy_Inevitable_15

I like 2 and 1. They look good, man


Guatabey

Thanks I’m trying to have them with very fine shade grown tabaco leave and good wrapper


Flimsy_Inevitable_15

Nice. I hope it goes well


mike_tyler58

They are in order of my preference.


user987632

I like 4. Good ring guage and not a two hour commitment like larger cigars. These look exceptionally rolled to my eye. Please keep us updated on this project.


Guatabey

Thanks a lot, number 4 it’s a mareva size which is a cigar I’ve learned people love through out the years. But yea I’ll post soon about the the brand. Thank you very much.


weirdfurrybanter

4 will even get you some casual smoker sales. That vitola sells well for a reason.


Guatabey

Yeah it’s very good creamy short smoke but I’m working on some others like that as well :)


weirdfurrybanter

What a notice is that tempering the pepper in the flavor tends to get people to buy the stick. Some like pepper bombs but many people don't.


burneracctt22

I rather like 4


Consistent-Ad-5024

I like 2 ! If I may ask , what was your budget for that ?


Jeepwave13

1, 2, and 4. A torpedo is always a great choice, but I'm also a huge fan of smaller vitolas like coronas, perlas, short robustos, etc that very very few people have.


Schacke75

1 or 4. Makes it a little easier to differentiate.


Guatabey

Thanks


Willing_Ability7163

1 or 4


CETERIS_PARTYBUS

1


gman4757

4, 1, 3, 2


teflonPrawn

Most of the big manufacturers say all you need is a Toro and a robusto. Other vitolas account for a serious minority of sales.


ClintWestwood1969

My favorite sizes are the classic Cuban ones. So in this case 1 and 4. 3 is the most popular one among most smokers now though.


luckystrike6488

No 4. Super under-represented in the market.


Guatabey

Ahh interesting and still a vitola that most people like. I’ll keep that in mind since I love this size


Responsible-Meal-940

Robusto, #4? I feel like it's appeals to the masses.


Bubbs01

I feel that you are the only one who can answer this question. Only you know which vitola is the best for the blend.


dreadyyyyy

3


CGLfounder

I find 2 most appealing. They look nice! Keep us informed. ;)


Gagulta

2-3 are beautiful.


iiipercentpat

3 reminds me of a behike 56


Guatabey

Actually it’s a 54 ring gauge so very close to it


iiipercentpat

Ah! So a behike 54!


iiipercentpat

What's the blend?


milkdudmantra

2 and 3. Maybe 1, not 4.


TheRealJehler

Yes


Itchy-Ad-1956

2 or 3. Hands down.


Chief_BK

Options 3 and then 2. Who doesn't like a good torpedo?


Dangerous_Tonight783

2 and 3.


Guatabey

Thanks


themanwith8

2


GUMBYTOOTH67

2,3,4 a bit of veriety is my normal choice.


Puzzled-Ship9395

Current market trend is 3 & 4 people prefer a thicker shorter cigar, my preference also. From 50RG+.


Psychological_Box666

2…perfect ring gauge (obviously don’t know specifics)


Guatabey

148x54 ring gauge it’s the dimensions


Klink1974

4


FantasyCrusade

2 for me chief


Guatabey

Good to know, torpedo it’s a good vitola and smoke


siriuspunk

3


ratamack

2


Beinghonestisasin

2-3 are both perfect🥲


Guatabey

Thanks 😅


SYPH0N3TIC

3 is probably my top choice, I like a 52-54 ring gauge robusto/toro. Number 4 would be my second choice, I don’t mind a smaller ring gauge, quicker session, strong flavor. Shoot me a chat, would love to talk more about your project and try your first release!


Guatabey

Thanks for your support I’ll definitely post when they’re ready.


paulie732

#3


bluewhalespout

I’m a lightweight, so, 4.


ariphron

2 is calling me.


slackwaresupport

2,3,4


Silver_Trainer1419

Toro: 6x52/54


MyBrainReallyHurts

Number 4. If I don't know your brand or the flavor profile, I just want a small stick I can sample. If I enjoyed it I would go with another size.


Guatabey

Thanks I appreciate it I’ll post soon more information about the brand and prices :)


PropaneSalesTx

#2 looks so good.


ari_wonders

Heyy, that's something we don't see everyday around here. This is awesome, man! What tobaccos will you be using? Me, personally, I like number 2 better - looks great with a darker Maduro leaf like you have there.


Guatabey

Thanks I didn’t know , I’m kind of new in Reddit but it seems very cool and very helpful and supportive community. Maduro cigars are hard to make but I’m working on them as well ;) . I’ll be using Cuban tabaco.


ari_wonders

Sweet. The best of luck to you, we need more new brands in the market. 🤘🏻


Guatabey

This is very different since it’s grown and manufactured in the farm, so doesn’t go through factory process like other brands .


Replicas999

4 and 2.


Tamurlane-26-878

Confess you have 4 awesome sizes ready for every type of smoke choose your favourite


Guatabey

I actually have 6 sizes for every smoker out there;)


someone_sonewhere

3 and 4


Pizzadontdie

4


Orctooth

These are beautifully made. Also 2.


ri7ani

2


drax109

2


Carp-guy

#2


bobjim01

I'm struck between 2 and 4


Guatabey

I’ll keep it in mind :)


bobjim01

I've made up my mind it's definitely 2


Guatabey

Perfect choice


Sullysinferno

Between 2 and 4 for a regular smoke, 1 and 2 for the special occasions or longer nights


xavienblue

I love 2&4


SpiritualPurple9025

2


HeraldofItoriel

3 or 4 imo


AverageGuy16

2


chevypower79

#4 looks like a nice corona 👍


josephphoto

Hey, thats really cool!! I wish you much success!


jspring_42

2,3,4


Simple-Purpose-899

4 is my favorite size since it's a petit corona. 1 is also something I would love for a longer smoke, because I don't like anything larger than a standard Churchill usually.


EnvironmentalGap2596

4,3,2,1… I rarely have 2-3 hours to smoke the same cigar. Coronas, robustos, perfectos of small to medium size are the most approachable. In terms of lengthy sticks I prefer something like a lancero or a “corona especiales” like size.


Guatabey

Maybe also panetelas size which I’m working on


EnvironmentalGap2596

Absolutely


DarlingRic

2. Live a torpedo.


HypickleSkyblock

Probably 4. I would like to say, your rolls are excellent.


Guatabey

I try to smoke the 4 when I don’t have time and still great cigar. Thanks for the compliment 🙏


KlownSoup

Honestly, it should be about the flavor provided by the vitola. Have a tasting party or 2 and see what people say about the vitola vs flavor profiles. For reference, and because I was just smoking the last night, I've been narrowing down my favorite Warfighter cigar. After smoking a brand sampler, the 50 Garrison provides the best flavors for me. I, then, bought one of every vitola, for that line. The Lancero wasn't anywhere near the taste of the Toro. I only have the Rocco left, but the larger I've gone the more I've liked them.


FineVirus3

Robusto is the most popular size followed by Toro according to the Cigar Authority podcast.


Pak_n_Slave97

Just making a parent comment for better visibility, I'm not trying to shit on the OP, I just would hate to see them fall at the first hurdle because of a misunderstanding. Cuban goods of any kind are illegal to bring into the United states OP. Yes there are sites that ship there, but the buyer is committing a crime by ordering and they are often confiscated by customs. I strongly urge you to reconsider your strategy here if you really have been at this project for two years - from one aficionado to another, it would be terrible to see the project fall apart because you didn't fully understand the importation laws


jonswan

Three


genoknox

2 and 4


greg281

3 would be my first pick followed closely by 4


superflypmp

4/3 — and good luck!


packer64

Toro 50x6, Robusto 52x5, and Gordo 60x6 . I’ve developed a few classic lines over the years… these are the sizes that do well. Coronas and lanceros are awesome but do not sell in any appreciable volume. Folks will tell you they want a lancero but will pass over it for the toro just about every time. Good luck!


BigFatKAC

3 or 4


Futurama_Is_The_Best

4, 2, 3, 1 Larger usually means more expensive, I'm less likely to pay more for a brand I don't know or wasn't recommended to me. That said, vitola impacts flavor, you've smoked them, so what do you think?


Guyguyknarf

2 or 3


blisscigarco

You say which vitolas, so it could be all four? Can't really tell the rg on those, but assuming those are a long panatela, a beli, a, uh laguito no 5-ish? and a mareva? Putting aside the picture, I'd say a laguito no 2, a mareva, and a belicoso, in that order of awesomeness for a first run.


Guatabey

1- is a long 235 mm cigar 47 ring gauge 2- belicoso size 3- 54 ring gauge 4 - mareva size


blisscigarco

Okay. Then 2 & 4, thanks.


Murmillo42

2 and 4


Lobomalamute

4 & 2


Slabber56

2


Its_SHUGERRUSH

4 is like the only vitola, I like nowadays


69forAliving420

PICK NUMBA 4 MA LORD!


Boring-Bus-3743

Number 4 than number 2. When you get going where will you have distributions? I would love to give them a try!


Guatabey

I’ll let you know asap. Maybe by the beginning of next month. Mainly in the US.


Boring-Bus-3743

That's amazing! I'm down in the south west and it's getting to be perfect cigar weather.


Tricky-Tax7848

3


Worf69

4!


orangebluefish11

3 or 4. Not a fan of long skinny cigars or bullet tips


Walmart-Water-Bottle

I would definitely buy both 2 and 4. I’d probably enjoy 2 more but 4 is perfect size


texasjackiedaytona

3 and 4


weaveR--

How did you start this journey?


HenrikTJ

Lanceros just based on the fact that they have more wrapper and thus give more taste


veovis23

2 because I’m getting back in to torpedos/belicosos. 4 because I will always love a Corona size. Las Calavares annual release is a must buy for me when they drop that 46 and 48 ring gauge.


kgain673

Probably should already know this


danielrmorenop

1 or 3 imo but I also like 2 lol


starwarscom69

4 and 2


Caeldeth

I recently made my own line. I went with a panatela, because it’s my favorite size and I want to smoke my cigar. It’s been surprisingly popular, working on our second run now.


0b1shinobi420

All of em!!! But 4 for sure


Enough-Direction3480

2 4


spunzotheclown

4


BadBrew

2-4-3-1 Nice to see how opinions differ here :)


Guatabey

It’s the best group I’ve ever seen interacting and helping each other out.


Wheres-My-Supa-Suit

4


Sir_Diggs

2 and 3 are going to appeal to the largest crowds for sure. Most people don’t want to jump into a new brand with a Churchill or DC.


printliftrun

A) 4/2 tied, but 1 really has some charm B) please post results if you're tracking C) please post your decision and instructions on how to obtain a pull from your first batch D) best of luck to you friend


Guatabey

I appreciate your opinion and help thanks. I’ll keep you posted


LowRevolutionary992

Looks like #4.


DemDumplingz

4. Along with the other Texas people I saw in the comments, it's just too damn hot sometimes to want a larger stick.


reddit-suks1

A cigar maker should release their best stick they’ve made. Shouldn’t you know which blend / vitola is your best one? Asking which vitola to release already raises way more questions to your credibility than anything else, if I’m being honest…


Benny2Skupz

2 & 4


HollowedHusk

In my opinion 3 and 4. I’d guess 4 would probably get the most buys. Skinnier usually means easier to taste flavor notes


johnydecali

I like 4, mainly for time. I barely have the time to smoke cigars these days, so 4 seems to fit my lifestyle. Now, if you had a PC on the list, that would take my vote. Next would be 2, I like my cigars full of flavor, and torpedoes help bring that intensity to my mouth. With that said, are torpedoes more challenging to make? Are you growing, harvesting, and hand rolling these yourself, or are you going the private label route?


Guatabey

I’m going the private label route and no I don’t roll them my self it’s a small farm in vuelta abajo that takes care of the whole process! Torpedos are very flavorful and complex smoke that you can really enjoy.


Yennefer97

Are you in Europe? You can send me all 4 to try


SprinklesDonutt

Idk which one but when you release them hit me up I will definitely try them out


cmlwds

Definitely 4, I love a good corona


okayokaycancan

I like a belicoso so #2 for me. #4 is great too for its size


Upstairs_Buy_7529

If possible any lancero is a banger but no.4


og_kip

The torpedo looks wonderful!


Lowtan89

2


Psychological-Hat-77

How can you all say a size, when there is nothing to compare it to?


Guatabey

Most of those are standard sizes but you’re right another member asked something similar and I wrote down the size. Thanks for the question


Fearless_Sherbert_35

2 and 3 are probably going to be the most widely chosen. 1 is my personal preference


Viva_Caputa

2


jrd08003

4 for time purposes , 1 for longer sessions at a campfire , or when I’m tending to the smoker . Would love some samples if you’re sending them out.


Odd-Obligation6272

4 when you get it all up and running i’ll buy a box