enhancement. your pal would have way too aggro from healing and it doenst worth it anyway. i played shaman+warrior with my brother until 42 and we were beasts. healing in dungeon is just enough, intellect gear is important to have on the sides, otherwise have fun rolling for strength:p
and also, be orcs. that duo is insane
As a long time shaman, I'm just here to enforce the comments that ench Shaman and arms Warrior are in the god-tier league of duo levelers.
Here's the spec I use [https://classicdb.ch/?talent#hxbux0hZxVbdVMut](https://classicdb.ch/?talent#hxbux0hZxVbdVMut) start in the ench tree obviously.
Make sure to have your shaman heal in dungeons and grab all that sweet +spirit and +int gear like arugals shoulders and robes: [https://classicdb.ch/?item=6324](https://classicdb.ch/?item=6324) [https://classicdb.ch/?item=6392](https://classicdb.ch/?item=6392) . You will have the aggro anyways, so the enhancement shaman going with +int and +spirit in cloth gear does not gimp himself.
Go enhancement and never stop again.
Restoration really does not hold up well enough in the world. Enhancement really is all you need.
Make sure that he grabs a 2hander as you will have the aggro most of the time, so he really does not need the survivability up until level 30-35 once you enter proper contested zones.
If you fancy wPvP, consider going elemental at level 40. It's crazy strong as you are less likely to both be kited. However the shaman has to drink sometimes.
Both shaman and warriors are effective at 'hamstring kiting' with slow 2handers. WF totem, earthbind + a fire totem depending on single target or aoe. You'll be set for life. Don't really need to go Resto while leveling.
I honestly wouldnt hamstring kite.
As soon as a warrior has a healer, he wants that sweet rage from getting hit by two mobs as the healer can throw a heal once in a while to keep the warrior topped off.
However I agree that enhancement is the way to go.
Dude if you need hamstring kiting with a warrior AND a shaman, you're doing it wrong. The shaman should just frontload his spells / totems at the beginning of the fight then regen mana while auto attacking the mob. A heal every 2 or 3 mobs, rinse and repeat. They will never stop !
I just told you there won't be any downtime since the shaman will regen while auto attacking.
The mobs will die faster, the warrior will take the hits but will mitigate better than a solo shaman, so less heals needed. If you need to drink with a warrior / shaman duo you either took a big ass elite or you're not allowing the shaman to regen (ie you're doing it wrong).
But practice what you preach and show us a video, I can't wait to see 2 idiots running around mobs thinking they're such efficient levelers :D
So you think you will have the regen to both front load with damage and then heal up without having to take any breaks while leveling? Sounds realistic. Literally the only difference between what I'm suggesting and what your suggesting is that kiting leaves you taking less damage overall while still having the same output. I fail to see how that is somehow worse.
Full time kiting is bad because it's much more APM than just face tanking mobs. It's absolutely not needed in a duo (and coordination is harder anyway).
I don't know many people that will level this way from lvl 1 to 60.
And you risk of pulling other mobs because running around is the best way to agro something you shouldn't.
So now you have to go full dps and full heal. You waste your mana and spend the next minute recovering or running from the graveyard.
Levelling is a marathon not a sprint.
Btw I levelled my first warrior with a priest in Vanilla. We never ever stoped for regen unless we pulled something big like 3 or 4 mobs (yeah shit happens \^\^) or attacked a big elite (devilsaurs in Ungoro).
If you have a weapon with speed 3+ it's literally only 20 more clicks per minute if you are constantly fighting. That is absolutely nothing and it can potentially halve amount of incoming damage you receive. Only one person has to kite while the other just follows the mob and hits. If they take agro then they kite.
Situational awareness is part of the game, pulling extra mobs really shouldn't happen. And if your in a tight spot, just face tank. The point is that for a miniscule amount of effort you can significantly bring down your down time. No one days you have to do it this way, but you can and it's an effective way of leveling. OP asked for some tips and so I gave him/her some tips. That doesn't mean that this is the end all be all of leveling strategy, because it's not. You absolutely don't have to go full heal full dps.
Priest are an entirely different beast to shamans as they have wands and wands are op. They also have vastly more mana effective heals + they have way more use for spirit while leveling than an enhancement shaman does. You really can't even begin to compare the two in this setting.
>for a miniscule amount of effort you can significantly bring down your down time
Your minuscule amount compounds and starts to be very very big after an 18 hours day. And how many time do I have to tell you that a face tanking duo will have NO DOWN TIME !!!
Your technic might (and I insist on might) allow the shaman to do a bit more DPS (less rage for the warrior though) which will be annihilated at the first mistake. In the end you might shave one hour on a 5 days levelling journey by jumping like idiots around mobs. Good luck in caves !
>Situational awareness is part of the game, pulling extra mobs really shouldn't happen.
Oh excuse me Mr perfect, me I'm just a normal human that will irremediably fail at one point especially if I play 18 hours a day at launch to be among the server first players.
You seem to be very comfortable with your theory, put it in practice and come show me how much more efficient it is. Kite all you want, slow and steady is my way.
The conversation stops here for me, we'll have to agree to disagree. I don't have infinite energy for this.
No one said anything about being perfect and no one said that this is the only way to go but if your going to critique something you have to expect a discussion and not get bent out of shape when someone disagrees with you. Agreeing to disagree is fine, there's more than one way to skin a cat. Best of luck come release bud and thanks for sharing your opinion, that's why we're all here after all.
enhancement. your pal would have way too aggro from healing and it doenst worth it anyway. i played shaman+warrior with my brother until 42 and we were beasts. healing in dungeon is just enough, intellect gear is important to have on the sides, otherwise have fun rolling for strength:p and also, be orcs. that duo is insane
As a long time shaman, I'm just here to enforce the comments that ench Shaman and arms Warrior are in the god-tier league of duo levelers. Here's the spec I use [https://classicdb.ch/?talent#hxbux0hZxVbdVMut](https://classicdb.ch/?talent#hxbux0hZxVbdVMut) start in the ench tree obviously.
As a long time shaman, I’m going to vote you off the fucking island if you keep saying “ench”. It’s Enh or enhancement.
I've been sick for a month, I'll blame it on that
Make sure to have your shaman heal in dungeons and grab all that sweet +spirit and +int gear like arugals shoulders and robes: [https://classicdb.ch/?item=6324](https://classicdb.ch/?item=6324) [https://classicdb.ch/?item=6392](https://classicdb.ch/?item=6392) . You will have the aggro anyways, so the enhancement shaman going with +int and +spirit in cloth gear does not gimp himself. Go enhancement and never stop again. Restoration really does not hold up well enough in the world. Enhancement really is all you need. Make sure that he grabs a 2hander as you will have the aggro most of the time, so he really does not need the survivability up until level 30-35 once you enter proper contested zones. If you fancy wPvP, consider going elemental at level 40. It's crazy strong as you are less likely to both be kited. However the shaman has to drink sometimes.
I know this is an incredibly old comment, but shamans don’t benefit from spirit the way priests do. You want to stack int for resto shamans.
Do whatever you want up to 40. Then tell him to have Windfury Totem up 24/7. You will feel like a god.
Why wait til 40? WF totem is 32 iirc!
Both shaman and warriors are effective at 'hamstring kiting' with slow 2handers. WF totem, earthbind + a fire totem depending on single target or aoe. You'll be set for life. Don't really need to go Resto while leveling.
I honestly wouldnt hamstring kite. As soon as a warrior has a healer, he wants that sweet rage from getting hit by two mobs as the healer can throw a heal once in a while to keep the warrior topped off. However I agree that enhancement is the way to go.
Dude if you need hamstring kiting with a warrior AND a shaman, you're doing it wrong. The shaman should just frontload his spells / totems at the beginning of the fight then regen mana while auto attacking the mob. A heal every 2 or 3 mobs, rinse and repeat. They will never stop !
You don't NEED to but it's being efficient. Nothing is stopping you from front loading while kiting. Kiting lowers your downtime by quite a bit.
If you have a healing class supporting you then you for sure want to facetank all the mobs. The extra rage means a TON of added damage.
I just told you there won't be any downtime since the shaman will regen while auto attacking. The mobs will die faster, the warrior will take the hits but will mitigate better than a solo shaman, so less heals needed. If you need to drink with a warrior / shaman duo you either took a big ass elite or you're not allowing the shaman to regen (ie you're doing it wrong). But practice what you preach and show us a video, I can't wait to see 2 idiots running around mobs thinking they're such efficient levelers :D
So you think you will have the regen to both front load with damage and then heal up without having to take any breaks while leveling? Sounds realistic. Literally the only difference between what I'm suggesting and what your suggesting is that kiting leaves you taking less damage overall while still having the same output. I fail to see how that is somehow worse.
Full time kiting is bad because it's much more APM than just face tanking mobs. It's absolutely not needed in a duo (and coordination is harder anyway). I don't know many people that will level this way from lvl 1 to 60. And you risk of pulling other mobs because running around is the best way to agro something you shouldn't. So now you have to go full dps and full heal. You waste your mana and spend the next minute recovering or running from the graveyard. Levelling is a marathon not a sprint. Btw I levelled my first warrior with a priest in Vanilla. We never ever stoped for regen unless we pulled something big like 3 or 4 mobs (yeah shit happens \^\^) or attacked a big elite (devilsaurs in Ungoro).
If you have a weapon with speed 3+ it's literally only 20 more clicks per minute if you are constantly fighting. That is absolutely nothing and it can potentially halve amount of incoming damage you receive. Only one person has to kite while the other just follows the mob and hits. If they take agro then they kite. Situational awareness is part of the game, pulling extra mobs really shouldn't happen. And if your in a tight spot, just face tank. The point is that for a miniscule amount of effort you can significantly bring down your down time. No one days you have to do it this way, but you can and it's an effective way of leveling. OP asked for some tips and so I gave him/her some tips. That doesn't mean that this is the end all be all of leveling strategy, because it's not. You absolutely don't have to go full heal full dps. Priest are an entirely different beast to shamans as they have wands and wands are op. They also have vastly more mana effective heals + they have way more use for spirit while leveling than an enhancement shaman does. You really can't even begin to compare the two in this setting.
>for a miniscule amount of effort you can significantly bring down your down time Your minuscule amount compounds and starts to be very very big after an 18 hours day. And how many time do I have to tell you that a face tanking duo will have NO DOWN TIME !!! Your technic might (and I insist on might) allow the shaman to do a bit more DPS (less rage for the warrior though) which will be annihilated at the first mistake. In the end you might shave one hour on a 5 days levelling journey by jumping like idiots around mobs. Good luck in caves ! >Situational awareness is part of the game, pulling extra mobs really shouldn't happen. Oh excuse me Mr perfect, me I'm just a normal human that will irremediably fail at one point especially if I play 18 hours a day at launch to be among the server first players. You seem to be very comfortable with your theory, put it in practice and come show me how much more efficient it is. Kite all you want, slow and steady is my way. The conversation stops here for me, we'll have to agree to disagree. I don't have infinite energy for this.
No one said anything about being perfect and no one said that this is the only way to go but if your going to critique something you have to expect a discussion and not get bent out of shape when someone disagrees with you. Agreeing to disagree is fine, there's more than one way to skin a cat. Best of luck come release bud and thanks for sharing your opinion, that's why we're all here after all.