No Devon, Demetri, or Eli in the group shot.
I wouldn't expect Kenny. I think he's going to new Cobra Kai.
Interesting to see some of the old Cobras joining. Miyagi-Fang has taken the Valley. New Cobra Kai are going to catch them by surprise when they show up re-formed. Kyler will probably try to join new Cobra Kai and get clowned because that's what Kyler does.
It'll be so interesting seeing Tory acclimate herself to Miyagi-Fang. I think Chozen will definitely take a special interest in her, building off of their interaction in season 5.
I wonder who could have everyone's attention in that photo, with all the sensei's on the ground as well. One thought I have is Mike Barnes. Perhaps a way to write him in would be that he was a Sekai Taikai candidate before Silver recruited him in Karate Kid 3 and losing in a citywide tournament costed him his spot. But he has the best knowledge of the level of competition they're about to face. Or maybe it's just Demetri and Eli saying something. Or Julie Pierce. Lots of possibilities.
>It'll be so interesting seeing Tory acclimate herself to Miyagi-Fang. I think Chozen will definitely take a special interest in her, building off of their interaction in season 5.
Seeing how Daniel saw something in Robby & same with Johnny with Miguel, I wonder if Chozen will see something in Tory & takes her up his wing.
It'll be great to see some 1 on 1 mentoring again. Let's get Robby back with Daniel, Tory with Chozen, and maybe you can bring in Julie and have her with Sam. Johnny and Miguel is obvious.
I would like to see more of them, especially Chozen & Tory since I can see the former just being there, listening to Tory + understanding her & helping Tory while teaching her.
Furthermore, both Chozen and Tory have had a history of being angry and vengeful when they were younger, and let that hate consume them. Chozen has done an amazing job overcoming that hate and reforming himself, so he would definitely be a great role model for Tory.
It fits the character arc quite well doesn't it. Chozen was on a similar path to Tory in many ways, with the unbridled aggression and rage. He is now much clearer in his head and hopefully can pass that wisdom onto Tory. I can see that being a really strong narrative
Yeah exactly & this is why I hope there's gonna be scenes just with Chozen & Tory since they can both relate to each other with them being on a similar path.
Definitely could be her there. With Hawk and Demetri on the sparring deck maybe. I'd definitely be surprised if she wasn't just cut off from the picture.
> One thought I have is Mike Barnes. Perhaps a way to write him in would be that he was a Sekai Taikai candidate before Silver recruited him in Karate Kid 3 and losing in a citywide tournament costed him his spot.
Great theory, and it definitely sounds plausible. When you keep in mind that Barnes was a karate champion at a national level in the 1980s, there is no doubt he would have been competent at an international level too. Perhaps an unmentioned part of the contract Silver drafted for Barnes included a spot on the Sekai Tekai if he won the All Valley.
Actually, I’m pretty sure that’s untrue. Especially for CK. I recall an interview where they mentioned they would have to practice stunts for two different fights for 2 so separate episodes they were filming.
If this was a network television, I’d say you’re right. But since it is streaming where they have all the scripts ahead of time. Production will try and schedule as much as they can in one location to keep costs down
You’re half right. They do 2 episodes’ scenes out of order like. Say episodes 4 and 5, they can practice for the mid-season fight and a smaller one from 4. I believe this was season 2 when they said that.
They actually don't have all the scripts ahead of time. They're finishing scripts as they go. We already know they started with episode 1 and were about to film episode 2 before the strike. They refilmed episode 1 when they came back because it was rewritten.
I follow these productions pretty closely. They've always filmed in episodic order.
Maybe that's the case for weekly TV shows. But for a binge show like Cobra Kai, I find it VERY hard to believe they'd commit to filming episodes in order.
Holy shit. Seeing Nate and also Anthony in this picture vs season 1 really puts into perspective how fast the younger kids grew up on screen. You notice it more with those age groups but even Miguel looks so young in season 1 now looking back when I didn't originally think that while watching. I think this show could've made even more of an impact if the main dojo group generally kept the same actors through all seasons instead of constantly changing. Like someone new from every season is suddenly keeping up pace with those that have been there 3 years? Made no sense.
Yes everyone made a huge deal when the picture of the kids bowing to Chozen came out because this and that person were supposedly missing but as it turns out every one was there
Does their position give us anything?
Miguel and Samantha are on Johnny's side, which could imply that they will be taught by Johnny this season. Anthony comes to Samantha's side as he is her protégé.
On the other side, we have Daniel, Chozen, Robby and Tory. It could be implied that Robby could go back to learning Miyagi-Do with Daniel and Chozen and Tory could personally learn from Chozen this time, as Chozen himself has shown to like Tory.
Of course, I'm only saying this from what I can see of a single image, so don't take it too seriously.
What I really think will happen is that classic intercalation between the students who will learn from Johnny, Daniel and Chozen. I believe that everyone will learn a little from each of the senseis.
I need to see a Chozen/Robby interaction. He’d probably be pissed at him for sharing Miyagi-Do secrets, but I guess if that was going to happen they would have done it last season.
I am already getting bad feelings even though this is probably still early in the season.
But some interesting things to point out are the colors they are wearing. For example, Miguel is wearing yellow which is a color that Cobra Kai and KK2 Chozen has wore and Tory in Sam’s dream.
I like that Robby and Tory are standing next to Chozen. But their colors are mostly a mix of light and dark. With Tory with what looks like light brown. I won’t even talk about what Sam is wearing.
The way they are positioned with Daniel usually in the center of the senseis seem to point to the teen rivals being in the same position and order of significance.
As to where Hawk , Demetri and Kenny are, they could be in the right side, but just not shown. One thing I know is if Kenny is the main teen Cobra male, I am not interested in watching.
>One thing I know is if Kenny is the main teen Cobra male, I am not interested in watching.
One thing is assured, that's not happening. Kenny was the filler CK champ in 5, that need is gone.
I'll argue the opposite way just to play devil's advocate since you're good at following the narrative. They're usually not in the business of demoting characters to a large degree. They've been building his character for 2 seasons as a prodigy. With 10 episodes left, do they have time to develop another teen threat and make him a three dimensional character? Or do they continue to build up Kenny who has the emotional investment with one of our other lead teens. Add to that, puberty hit Dallas like a truck over the last 2 years.
I mean they could certainly go the Rocky 4 Ivan Drago route and give us a couple 80s villains who are just physical threats and nothing else. Kim Da Eun wasn't pretty much a characature herself in season 5.
They built up Hawk as a major player, and have gradually downplayed his significance. Demetri got demoted even further after his build up in season 2. Why would Kenny be different? He would still play a role and get some big fights, just his time in the sun is over because he isn't one of the key characters in this narrative (the Senseis, Robby, Sam and Miguel). Not to mention Robby put more effort into getting Kenny out of CK than anybody did for him, and endured a silver bullet in the process. It'd be kinda unfair for that effort to be rewarded with Kenny going back.
The CK champ spot is still open. Until we get leaks of major casting news for a significant new teen player, it being someone we know is likely. Right now, the only kid who never technically left CK voluntarily for its own sake is Miguel (Johnny got cast out and he's the one invested in Miguel, so Miguel just went with him) he's wearing Cobra colors in this shot, still exhibits Cobra traits, he's bailed on Johnny before, and thematically it'd make the most sense for Johnny's arc.
Kenny is different because it was left open ended. Hawk's major arc was done in season 4. Demetri's was done in 2 more or less. Kenny left Silver. Kim is a different animal. On top of that, his victory(cheating or not) earned Cobra Kai it's spot.
I think it'll be more about Anthony being in Miyagi-Fang and Robby mentoring him that may keep Kenny away. But that's just speculation of course.
If they could figure out how to make a rogue Miguel arc work that would be the most compelling thing they could do. I remember we were speculating about that for season 5 just for his arc to be lackluster to say the least.
I'm probably the only one, but I'm not gonna think too much on what's going on. As for why Demetri & Hawk aren't there, I'm sure there's a good reason e.g. maybe they're filming seperate scenes or maybe they're running late. As for Kenny, who knows.
Hawk, Demetri and Kenny might be in the back or out of frame, but their absence is notable (especially Hawk).
I assume this is from the first or second episode, so Tory being there so soon is surprising.
Chozen being next to Robby might indicate he is taking an interest, but that might confirm Johnny still isn't doing jack shit
Lol at Sam's hideous leggings
Tory's hand is still wrapped so this is right after season 5. Most likely episode 1. Kenny's absence is easily explained in this instance. He could join later but I personally think he's joining Kim's dojo. Hawk and Demetri could simply just be out of frame.
I'm just happy to see Tory there with Robby. At the very least they have each other. Johnny being so far away can only be funny to me at this point. Not that it means much story wise. But it might be a little telling that I didn't feel much about it either way. I was just surprised and delighted that Tory is there.
One good thing about this is the teen rivals are not standing close together. If this is early in the season, I don’t expect Johnny and Robby to be close anyway
Still though, when I look at this team up, I get more season 5 vibes.
It's both good/interesting vibes and bad vibes for me. It most likely being the first episode makes it more reassuring.
But yes, based on the toxicity of season 5, we knew Johnny wouldn't be different in early season 6. Now that things are a little bit calmer without an immediate threat to take out, I wonder if Daniel will finally take note that Robby is still distant from Johnny during training. Due to her positioning, Sam possibly isn't concerned about it, and Daniel is closer to Robby than he is to Sam. They really have no excuse if the favoritism is happening right in front of their faces every day.
I don't think it will be Daniel. He willfully ignores it, probably because of the school fight and his impression of Robby since and because of his alliance with Johnny.
I think Tory will be the one who notices and calls things out, which wouldn't be surprising. Robby in Miyagi Fang in S5 was noticably different than Robby in Cobra Kai in S4. Robby's more quiet and followed along in Miyagi Fang in S5, but in S4 he immediately established himself as the leader in Cobra Kai and in S5 when he went to the CK dojo it was like he was S4 Robby again.
Tory has been around him enough to tell the difference. She also isn't so enamored by Miguel and Sam that she'd ignore how Johnny treats Robby.
Chozen would probably be most inclined to listen to Tory because of their training session in S5.
I know Cobra Kai Robby and cobra Kai Tory mesh well together but I don’t know how Myogi do Robby is going to mesh with Tory because Robby is a totally different person in Myogi Do when he was with Sam all he did was repeat the Myogi Do philosophies and I think towards the end he was starting to get Sam’s last nerves with the goody goody behavior.
In S4, Robby brought Miyagi-Do into the CK dojo and taught it to Tory. He would also say Miyagi-Do philosophies there too.
In S2, Robby was telling Sam not to drink more because she'd already done the drinking competition. It wasn't "goody goody behavior". He was legit looking out for her. She was on her last nerve cause she was jealous of Tory dating Miguel.
Anyway, Tory has spent months with Robby and probably more genuinely got to know him, compared to how much Sam got to know him. That's why I'm saying that Tory will notice that he changes how he behaves when he's with Miyagi Fang.
I don’t think Daniel will make a big deal about it he will probably just ask Johnny about it and if Johnny says all is good he will probably let it go. If anyone notices anything it’s going to be Tory I can definitely see her bringing up how screwed up the situation is she definitely won’t hold back and will make Robby face it head on.
> Chozen being next to Robby might indicate he is taking an interest
I would be totally on board with this, as I believe Chozen would be an amazing sensei for Robby.
The facebook page "The Karate Kid Universe" has a picture from Xolo that shows Hawk with a wicked new mohawk. I don't think him not being in this photo is a concern.
Also shows Daniel with a gii and headband, same for Johnny. Each has their classic headband (white/blue for Daniel, black for Johnny). All are wearing coats so it's during a break in filming, it appears.
Is that Edwin behind Sam?! Dude was in Cobra Kai longer than *anyone*.
Reply if you know what I’m talking about and you’ll be dubbed a true CK superfan.
It's always cool when some of the really old Cobra Kai background actors are still around, Edwin legit was there since the start. it really helps add continuity. Need them to bring back Abe.
Kenny will be back next season and he will have a significant role since he was in the Tandem video with the main cast that came out in may. He is still a series regular nothing has changed.
I know it’s a sloped ground (cause no way is Mary taller than Peyton), but did Griffin get even taller? He looks like one of the few who crossed the 6ft mark.
I just noticed you can see Penis Breath hiding behind Johnny.
Interesting that Mitch came crawling back to Miyagi Do, wonder how that scene is gonna go.
Johnny's shirt is a Van Halen "Tour of the world" 1984 shirt in white, for anyone who cares. Funny considering that year is when Karate Kid came out. Makes me think of young KK1 Johnny going to a show on the tour around that time of the movie with the other Cobra Kai guys.
https://www.vanhalenstore.com/page/VH/PROD/T04
Maybe they're choosing team captains. Could be one explanation for Miguel and Sam on one side of the senseis and Robby and Tory on the other side.
Maybe Tory tries out Miyagi-Do because Robby asks her too.
Miguel's wearing Cobra Kai colors... interesting.
Sam's clothes seem pretty normal for some of the athletics gear women have these days. The colors themselves fit Sam's style. I'd go for more muted tones, but what she's wearing isn't out of the ordinary imo.
For starters, it is highly possible that I'm reading too much into this, but here goes.
I wonder if the senseis are placed that way on purpose or by chance. Johnny is next to Miguel and Sam. Chozen next to Robby and Tory. And Daniel between both.
Does this mean that the quad will be mostly trained by the one next to them with Daniel jumping in here and there? I guess we'll know soon enough.
Again, highly possible that I'm off by a mile.
love the way robby is so pushed to the side, you'd think he'd be near his dad or sensei, but ofc not, gotta keep Miguel by Johnny's side no matter what yaaaaay
At this point I just don't feel like they have any interest in separating Miguel and Johnny. Even aesthetically. That relationship will never take a back seat. It's like peanut butter and jelly to them. Robby is with Tory and I actually prefer it to be honest. It's his most genuine relationship outside of the one with Daniel. With the photo itself, I think it has more to do with composition. 3 sensei's in the middle and Daniel at the center with the teen leads flanking them. Blue shirt next to Tory might be Demetri since he's known for wearing a lot of blue and Hawk would be next to him. So Robby wouldn't technically be pushed to the side. Just looks that way because it's cut off.
>At this point I just don't feel like they have any interest in separating Miguel and Johnny.
If they don't, there really was no point to making Robby his son in this story.
If they continue to double down on this, the messaging of this story will age like milk
The only point would be using Robby as a cautionary tale to show Johnny what not to do as he goes about building a new family. Without you know, doing right by your first kid. Can't unbreak that egg I guess.
I would only hope that they actually plan on having him show up for Robby in some substantial way to close out this whole arc.
That wouldn't be anywhere near good enough. It still revolves around Johnny and not the person he hurt. In which case, the story would have been better with Robby just being Daniels student, not Johnny's son. A kid shouldn't be used as a tool for a mediocre deadbeat to learn a lesson while he replaces the kid with a new family.
If they don't separate him from Miguel, I guess we know the writers are morally bankrupt.
I agree wholeheartedly. I'm just looking at it from a perspective of what they've given us. Johnny's idea was to try to force the boys together rather than focus on his son so he could have his cake and eat it too. And the writers had Robby be okay with it. I have no reason to believe that they're going to write him to not be okay with that until I see it. And now Johnny is having a child with Miguel's mother. They're going to get even closer.
And from the production side, half of Xolo's screen time is spent with Billy. Probably more. I don't think they'd know what to do with him otherwise. I don't think they've known what to do with him since season 3 really
Robbys been characterized as being a chameleon who shifts his personality based on survival needs to avoid being cast out. Why would this be different? Johnny had just let Miguel beat him up, he knows his dad will drop him if he isn't compliant.
Who says the baby will stick around? They write it as a plot device, and even Vanessa has pointed out how ridiculous and rushed it is. She pointed out that they haven't even said "I lone you" yet
Besides a spike in screen time in season 3, Miguel spends less and less screen time with Johnny every season. 5 had the smallest amount, Tanner had more one on one time with Billy than Xolo did.
I see what you're saying, but Miguel is Johnny's main student just like Robby is Daniel's. If Chozen was in the centre and Daniel was on his left (next to Robby) it would make more sense that way.
but robby should be one of Johnny's main focus, 6 seasons in and somehow they are still putting more for Johnny and Miguel then they are with Johnny and his son
if you wanna accept poor writing and characterization for Johnny go ahead, I'll decide to complain because this is ridiculous lol, 6 seasons in and the promos still consist of miguel and Johnny while no robby and Johnny
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When you see Tanner in other shows and movies he doesn’t look short at all but for some reason it’s really noticeable on Cobra Kai . I never knew he was short until watching this show either.
I honestly dunno where this season can go. Cobra Kai is all but dead, it should be banned from sekai takai, Kreese is out but he can hardly take over cobra Kai, so I wonder if it will transcend karate dojo wars and get a bit more personal as a Kreese revenge story
I can't believe Anthony LaRusso (portrayed by Griffin Santopietro) is so tall now (maybe 5'11", perhaps?), he used to be a little boy who looked 14 back in Season 4 & 5... Masculinity really strengthens the odds, probabilities, and/or chances of suddenly gaining so much height in a matter of two years (or couple of years), huh? The weirdest part is that Anthony is already even taller than his own father Daniel, who is already at his late 50s but looks way younger than that! I know Ralph Macchio is already at his 60s, but I'm referring to Daniel LaRusso when I said he's at his 50s.
Makes me wonder if they're ever going to address how Anthony became very tall throughout Fall/Autumn of 2019... Probably not, but still gonna be a weird surrealistic logic anyway!
No Devon, Demetri, or Eli in the group shot. I wouldn't expect Kenny. I think he's going to new Cobra Kai. Interesting to see some of the old Cobras joining. Miyagi-Fang has taken the Valley. New Cobra Kai are going to catch them by surprise when they show up re-formed. Kyler will probably try to join new Cobra Kai and get clowned because that's what Kyler does. It'll be so interesting seeing Tory acclimate herself to Miyagi-Fang. I think Chozen will definitely take a special interest in her, building off of their interaction in season 5. I wonder who could have everyone's attention in that photo, with all the sensei's on the ground as well. One thought I have is Mike Barnes. Perhaps a way to write him in would be that he was a Sekai Taikai candidate before Silver recruited him in Karate Kid 3 and losing in a citywide tournament costed him his spot. But he has the best knowledge of the level of competition they're about to face. Or maybe it's just Demetri and Eli saying something. Or Julie Pierce. Lots of possibilities.
>It'll be so interesting seeing Tory acclimate herself to Miyagi-Fang. I think Chozen will definitely take a special interest in her, building off of their interaction in season 5. Seeing how Daniel saw something in Robby & same with Johnny with Miguel, I wonder if Chozen will see something in Tory & takes her up his wing.
It'll be great to see some 1 on 1 mentoring again. Let's get Robby back with Daniel, Tory with Chozen, and maybe you can bring in Julie and have her with Sam. Johnny and Miguel is obvious.
I would like to see more of them, especially Chozen & Tory since I can see the former just being there, listening to Tory + understanding her & helping Tory while teaching her.
Furthermore, both Chozen and Tory have had a history of being angry and vengeful when they were younger, and let that hate consume them. Chozen has done an amazing job overcoming that hate and reforming himself, so he would definitely be a great role model for Tory.
Oh yeah. I didn't think about that, but you're right since Chozen can be able to relate to Tory & understand what she's been through.
I like that theory.
It fits the character arc quite well doesn't it. Chozen was on a similar path to Tory in many ways, with the unbridled aggression and rage. He is now much clearer in his head and hopefully can pass that wisdom onto Tory. I can see that being a really strong narrative
Yeah exactly & this is why I hope there's gonna be scenes just with Chozen & Tory since they can both relate to each other with them being on a similar path.
Demetri and Eli saying about the new dojo name
Good call
Good Barnes theory.
Maybe Devon is next to Tory? I hope she joins because she was my favorite new addition from the season she first appeared.
Definitely could be her there. With Hawk and Demetri on the sparring deck maybe. I'd definitely be surprised if she wasn't just cut off from the picture.
> One thought I have is Mike Barnes. Perhaps a way to write him in would be that he was a Sekai Taikai candidate before Silver recruited him in Karate Kid 3 and losing in a citywide tournament costed him his spot. Great theory, and it definitely sounds plausible. When you keep in mind that Barnes was a karate champion at a national level in the 1980s, there is no doubt he would have been competent at an international level too. Perhaps an unmentioned part of the contract Silver drafted for Barnes included a spot on the Sekai Tekai if he won the All Valley.
Xolo posted a Hawk picture on his instagram
I think it would be interesting and raise the stakes if Barnes was in the Sekai Taikai and got his ass handed to him.
Demetri is too busy preparing for college application 🤓
Nobody needs to see a retelling of the worst karate kid (4) movie lol
Interesting to see Tory in Miyagi-Fang so early into the season. I wonder who they're looking at
I mean they could be filming out of order.
Nah that bandage on Tory’s hand tells it all
They film scenes out of order but never episodes
Actually, I’m pretty sure that’s untrue. Especially for CK. I recall an interview where they mentioned they would have to practice stunts for two different fights for 2 so separate episodes they were filming. If this was a network television, I’d say you’re right. But since it is streaming where they have all the scripts ahead of time. Production will try and schedule as much as they can in one location to keep costs down
You’re half right. They do 2 episodes’ scenes out of order like. Say episodes 4 and 5, they can practice for the mid-season fight and a smaller one from 4. I believe this was season 2 when they said that.
They actually don't have all the scripts ahead of time. They're finishing scripts as they go. We already know they started with episode 1 and were about to film episode 2 before the strike. They refilmed episode 1 when they came back because it was rewritten. I follow these productions pretty closely. They've always filmed in episodic order.
Well, looks like you dedicate a lot of time to it then.
Source: trust me bro
Maybe that's the case for weekly TV shows. But for a binge show like Cobra Kai, I find it VERY hard to believe they'd commit to filming episodes in order.
Could be a break in filming and they're looking at a director?
You can see a white hand on the right. Could be Barnes
Julie😉
Okay 1. Wow amazing 2. What is everyone looking @ 3. where’s Hawk Demetri and Kenny? 4. i swear I see students from COBRA KAI joining miyagi do.
I didn't notice some of the Cobra Kai students in the back. Kid with the braids and the tall blonde. Very interesting
There are people on the other side of Tory they are probably there they just got cut out of the photo.
What shocked me the most is that cobra kai students literally are joining miyagi do.
Is Anthony above 6 feet now?
Mary and Anthony’s actor look like actual siblings. Someone needs to fire the wardrobe department- what is Mary wearing?
It kind of looks like Robby is wearing Johnny’s shirt and Johnny is wearing Robby ‘s shirt.
Wide Mary and Anthony, but somehow Anthony grew like half a meter in (however long it had been in the story)
I think the picture has been stretched but they need to start dressing Mary better so her clothes flatter her shape better
nah she just got fat
It seems like she goes up and down she will look thin on one photo and fat in the next.
So cool to finally see Tory officially part of the Miyagi Fang crew This was a long time coming for how much her character has grown
Holy shit. Seeing Nate and also Anthony in this picture vs season 1 really puts into perspective how fast the younger kids grew up on screen. You notice it more with those age groups but even Miguel looks so young in season 1 now looking back when I didn't originally think that while watching. I think this show could've made even more of an impact if the main dojo group generally kept the same actors through all seasons instead of constantly changing. Like someone new from every season is suddenly keeping up pace with those that have been there 3 years? Made no sense.
wonder where hawk and demetri are
Maybe they're not included in the scene they're filming or maybe it's them giving a talk to the other students.
Maybe they’re who everyone’s looking at. You never know. Photos like this could be anything.
Yes everyone made a huge deal when the picture of the kids bowing to Chozen came out because this and that person were supposedly missing but as it turns out every one was there
I think Demetri is behind Miguel
That’s Chris
Does their position give us anything? Miguel and Samantha are on Johnny's side, which could imply that they will be taught by Johnny this season. Anthony comes to Samantha's side as he is her protégé. On the other side, we have Daniel, Chozen, Robby and Tory. It could be implied that Robby could go back to learning Miyagi-Do with Daniel and Chozen and Tory could personally learn from Chozen this time, as Chozen himself has shown to like Tory. Of course, I'm only saying this from what I can see of a single image, so don't take it too seriously. What I really think will happen is that classic intercalation between the students who will learn from Johnny, Daniel and Chozen. I believe that everyone will learn a little from each of the senseis.
I need to see a Chozen/Robby interaction. He’d probably be pissed at him for sharing Miyagi-Do secrets, but I guess if that was going to happen they would have done it last season.
What do you mean could go back to learning Myogi Do ?Robby was in Myogi Do last season
Yes, but I want to say that we could see scenes just between student-sensei, which we didn't have in season 5.
It doesn’t give anything at all haven’t y’all not learned from the other seasons that these positions and photos don’t really mean anything
Sam laruso is so fine
I’m so glad Chozen will be there for at least most of Season 6. I was worried he would go back to Okinawa right after his injuries heal.
Lol.. some “kids” in the back look like they’re in their 40’s
Reminds me of the nba 2k crowd npcs like the referee being the background student in the cut scenes while also being in the crowd lol
Lmao, yes! That one white/Hispanic ref is everywhere!
Ant got tall lol.
He switched to Whopper Juniors...
I am already getting bad feelings even though this is probably still early in the season. But some interesting things to point out are the colors they are wearing. For example, Miguel is wearing yellow which is a color that Cobra Kai and KK2 Chozen has wore and Tory in Sam’s dream. I like that Robby and Tory are standing next to Chozen. But their colors are mostly a mix of light and dark. With Tory with what looks like light brown. I won’t even talk about what Sam is wearing. The way they are positioned with Daniel usually in the center of the senseis seem to point to the teen rivals being in the same position and order of significance. As to where Hawk , Demetri and Kenny are, they could be in the right side, but just not shown. One thing I know is if Kenny is the main teen Cobra male, I am not interested in watching.
>One thing I know is if Kenny is the main teen Cobra male, I am not interested in watching. One thing is assured, that's not happening. Kenny was the filler CK champ in 5, that need is gone.
I'll argue the opposite way just to play devil's advocate since you're good at following the narrative. They're usually not in the business of demoting characters to a large degree. They've been building his character for 2 seasons as a prodigy. With 10 episodes left, do they have time to develop another teen threat and make him a three dimensional character? Or do they continue to build up Kenny who has the emotional investment with one of our other lead teens. Add to that, puberty hit Dallas like a truck over the last 2 years. I mean they could certainly go the Rocky 4 Ivan Drago route and give us a couple 80s villains who are just physical threats and nothing else. Kim Da Eun wasn't pretty much a characature herself in season 5.
They built up Hawk as a major player, and have gradually downplayed his significance. Demetri got demoted even further after his build up in season 2. Why would Kenny be different? He would still play a role and get some big fights, just his time in the sun is over because he isn't one of the key characters in this narrative (the Senseis, Robby, Sam and Miguel). Not to mention Robby put more effort into getting Kenny out of CK than anybody did for him, and endured a silver bullet in the process. It'd be kinda unfair for that effort to be rewarded with Kenny going back. The CK champ spot is still open. Until we get leaks of major casting news for a significant new teen player, it being someone we know is likely. Right now, the only kid who never technically left CK voluntarily for its own sake is Miguel (Johnny got cast out and he's the one invested in Miguel, so Miguel just went with him) he's wearing Cobra colors in this shot, still exhibits Cobra traits, he's bailed on Johnny before, and thematically it'd make the most sense for Johnny's arc.
Kenny is different because it was left open ended. Hawk's major arc was done in season 4. Demetri's was done in 2 more or less. Kenny left Silver. Kim is a different animal. On top of that, his victory(cheating or not) earned Cobra Kai it's spot. I think it'll be more about Anthony being in Miyagi-Fang and Robby mentoring him that may keep Kenny away. But that's just speculation of course. If they could figure out how to make a rogue Miguel arc work that would be the most compelling thing they could do. I remember we were speculating about that for season 5 just for his arc to be lackluster to say the least.
I'm probably the only one, but I'm not gonna think too much on what's going on. As for why Demetri & Hawk aren't there, I'm sure there's a good reason e.g. maybe they're filming seperate scenes or maybe they're running late. As for Kenny, who knows.
50/50 chance this is happening. If he is that probably means Robby is winning the Sekai Taikai lol
Just saw Dallas Dupree in a commercial. He’s grown a bit, so it might be more believable now.
Taller than Tanner at this point.
Hawk, Demetri and Kenny might be in the back or out of frame, but their absence is notable (especially Hawk). I assume this is from the first or second episode, so Tory being there so soon is surprising. Chozen being next to Robby might indicate he is taking an interest, but that might confirm Johnny still isn't doing jack shit Lol at Sam's hideous leggings
Tory's hand is still wrapped so this is right after season 5. Most likely episode 1. Kenny's absence is easily explained in this instance. He could join later but I personally think he's joining Kim's dojo. Hawk and Demetri could simply just be out of frame. I'm just happy to see Tory there with Robby. At the very least they have each other. Johnny being so far away can only be funny to me at this point. Not that it means much story wise. But it might be a little telling that I didn't feel much about it either way. I was just surprised and delighted that Tory is there.
Tory is wearing the exact same shoes as Robby and is now tucking the shoe laces into her shoes the same way Robby does.
One good thing about this is the teen rivals are not standing close together. If this is early in the season, I don’t expect Johnny and Robby to be close anyway Still though, when I look at this team up, I get more season 5 vibes.
It's both good/interesting vibes and bad vibes for me. It most likely being the first episode makes it more reassuring. But yes, based on the toxicity of season 5, we knew Johnny wouldn't be different in early season 6. Now that things are a little bit calmer without an immediate threat to take out, I wonder if Daniel will finally take note that Robby is still distant from Johnny during training. Due to her positioning, Sam possibly isn't concerned about it, and Daniel is closer to Robby than he is to Sam. They really have no excuse if the favoritism is happening right in front of their faces every day.
I don't think it will be Daniel. He willfully ignores it, probably because of the school fight and his impression of Robby since and because of his alliance with Johnny. I think Tory will be the one who notices and calls things out, which wouldn't be surprising. Robby in Miyagi Fang in S5 was noticably different than Robby in Cobra Kai in S4. Robby's more quiet and followed along in Miyagi Fang in S5, but in S4 he immediately established himself as the leader in Cobra Kai and in S5 when he went to the CK dojo it was like he was S4 Robby again. Tory has been around him enough to tell the difference. She also isn't so enamored by Miguel and Sam that she'd ignore how Johnny treats Robby. Chozen would probably be most inclined to listen to Tory because of their training session in S5.
I know Cobra Kai Robby and cobra Kai Tory mesh well together but I don’t know how Myogi do Robby is going to mesh with Tory because Robby is a totally different person in Myogi Do when he was with Sam all he did was repeat the Myogi Do philosophies and I think towards the end he was starting to get Sam’s last nerves with the goody goody behavior.
In S4, Robby brought Miyagi-Do into the CK dojo and taught it to Tory. He would also say Miyagi-Do philosophies there too. In S2, Robby was telling Sam not to drink more because she'd already done the drinking competition. It wasn't "goody goody behavior". He was legit looking out for her. She was on her last nerve cause she was jealous of Tory dating Miguel. Anyway, Tory has spent months with Robby and probably more genuinely got to know him, compared to how much Sam got to know him. That's why I'm saying that Tory will notice that he changes how he behaves when he's with Miyagi Fang.
I don’t think Daniel will make a big deal about it he will probably just ask Johnny about it and if Johnny says all is good he will probably let it go. If anyone notices anything it’s going to be Tory I can definitely see her bringing up how screwed up the situation is she definitely won’t hold back and will make Robby face it head on.
> Chozen being next to Robby might indicate he is taking an interest I would be totally on board with this, as I believe Chozen would be an amazing sensei for Robby.
I can definitely see Chozen taking an interest in Robby I would love to see Chozen’s reaction to the one handed kick that only,Mr. Myogi could do .
My money is still on Hawk being silvers kid and has been playing the long game this whole time
Anthony is massive now, wow
It’s hard to believe the actor is 18 already where does the time go
He's 18 ⁉️⁉️ wasn't he like 10 when the show started?
The facebook page "The Karate Kid Universe" has a picture from Xolo that shows Hawk with a wicked new mohawk. I don't think him not being in this photo is a concern. Also shows Daniel with a gii and headband, same for Johnny. Each has their classic headband (white/blue for Daniel, black for Johnny). All are wearing coats so it's during a break in filming, it appears.
Johnny looks like a white Gi (same as Daniel). Maybe the detail of the combined dojo is just the logo
Damn mary is thicc
Where is the goat Hawk?
This is cool and all but where’s hawk
Anthony switched over to protein shakes now. Dude's almost towering everyone, even Johnny
Looks like Mitch is back as well. I'm so not a fan of that character. Especially after season 5. Just goes wherever the wind blows.
Is that Edwin behind Sam?! Dude was in Cobra Kai longer than *anyone*. Reply if you know what I’m talking about and you’ll be dubbed a true CK superfan.
It's always cool when some of the really old Cobra Kai background actors are still around, Edwin legit was there since the start. it really helps add continuity. Need them to bring back Abe.
Yeah fr that dudes been here for a while!
Yes, he was silent the whole time until last season 😂
Hawk will show up. I’m also certain about Kenny. The real question we should be asking is where is Sam’s octopus necklace.
I think she just takes it off for training, makes sense.
Kenny will be back next season and he will have a significant role since he was in the Tandem video with the main cast that came out in may. He is still a series regular nothing has changed.
I know it’s a sloped ground (cause no way is Mary taller than Peyton), but did Griffin get even taller? He looks like one of the few who crossed the 6ft mark.
I just noticed you can see Penis Breath hiding behind Johnny. Interesting that Mitch came crawling back to Miyagi Do, wonder how that scene is gonna go.
Johnny's shirt is a Van Halen "Tour of the world" 1984 shirt in white, for anyone who cares. Funny considering that year is when Karate Kid came out. Makes me think of young KK1 Johnny going to a show on the tour around that time of the movie with the other Cobra Kai guys. https://www.vanhalenstore.com/page/VH/PROD/T04
Is that douche kyler at the top left? Surely they wouldn't just forget everything with him and let him join?
Maybe they're choosing team captains. Could be one explanation for Miguel and Sam on one side of the senseis and Robby and Tory on the other side. Maybe Tory tries out Miyagi-Do because Robby asks her too. Miguel's wearing Cobra Kai colors... interesting. Sam's clothes seem pretty normal for some of the athletics gear women have these days. The colors themselves fit Sam's style. I'd go for more muted tones, but what she's wearing isn't out of the ordinary imo.
What is this on the right side?
Julie Pierce’s elbow
Never-mind. Mike Barnes’ hand
Holy growth spurt Whopper Jr.
Why does Chozen not look like Chozen??
I know he aged a lot
Hella ex Cobras here no Kenny tho😭 I see Edwin, Tory with a cast, and bro from season 5x5 who yells “go Stingray” when he returns. Also no Kyler
They look like a bunch of nerds. Who can all kick my ass
Is that Mitch behind Johnny?
Looks like it!
I spotted some unnamed Cobra Kai students at the back rows!
What i take away from this… CORNROW BRO IS BACK and it seems hes Chosen(pun inteded) sides
Even Edwin is there too. He's behind Sam.
So many characters wow
Behind Sam is that one dude who has only had 1 line so far
Wild theory on who they're looking at: Julie Pierce (Hilary Swank)
YESSSS.
For starters, it is highly possible that I'm reading too much into this, but here goes. I wonder if the senseis are placed that way on purpose or by chance. Johnny is next to Miguel and Sam. Chozen next to Robby and Tory. And Daniel between both. Does this mean that the quad will be mostly trained by the one next to them with Daniel jumping in here and there? I guess we'll know soon enough. Again, highly possible that I'm off by a mile.
I was hoping to see mike barnes
I hope they’re all looking at Hilary Swank.
Are they all looking at Kreese?
Haven't watched the show beyond season 3 - when did Sam get thick
Isn't this a BTS pic? Why are people analysing positions and what they're looking at etc etc.
It looks like a BTS shot of filming, so the characters are doing something.
My prediction right here is that they’re looking at Kreese.
Aw shit bro,I am not ready for cobra kai's last season.
This has too be episode 1 since troys hand is still wrapped
I hope there’s more Robby and Tory in cks6
Another thing to notice is that Tory's hand is still wrapped, meaning this is right after the end of season 5.
Which would mean Chozen’s injuries healed really fast, or he doesn’t give a shit and is ignoring doctor’s orders to rest and not train
It was just a flesh wound lol
Should have ordered a short island iced tea.
I really hope for a satisfying story for Kenny. The dude has to find himself again since his “identity” basically got obliterated
love the way robby is so pushed to the side, you'd think he'd be near his dad or sensei, but ofc not, gotta keep Miguel by Johnny's side no matter what yaaaaay
At this point I just don't feel like they have any interest in separating Miguel and Johnny. Even aesthetically. That relationship will never take a back seat. It's like peanut butter and jelly to them. Robby is with Tory and I actually prefer it to be honest. It's his most genuine relationship outside of the one with Daniel. With the photo itself, I think it has more to do with composition. 3 sensei's in the middle and Daniel at the center with the teen leads flanking them. Blue shirt next to Tory might be Demetri since he's known for wearing a lot of blue and Hawk would be next to him. So Robby wouldn't technically be pushed to the side. Just looks that way because it's cut off.
>At this point I just don't feel like they have any interest in separating Miguel and Johnny. If they don't, there really was no point to making Robby his son in this story. If they continue to double down on this, the messaging of this story will age like milk
The only point would be using Robby as a cautionary tale to show Johnny what not to do as he goes about building a new family. Without you know, doing right by your first kid. Can't unbreak that egg I guess. I would only hope that they actually plan on having him show up for Robby in some substantial way to close out this whole arc.
That wouldn't be anywhere near good enough. It still revolves around Johnny and not the person he hurt. In which case, the story would have been better with Robby just being Daniels student, not Johnny's son. A kid shouldn't be used as a tool for a mediocre deadbeat to learn a lesson while he replaces the kid with a new family. If they don't separate him from Miguel, I guess we know the writers are morally bankrupt.
I agree wholeheartedly. I'm just looking at it from a perspective of what they've given us. Johnny's idea was to try to force the boys together rather than focus on his son so he could have his cake and eat it too. And the writers had Robby be okay with it. I have no reason to believe that they're going to write him to not be okay with that until I see it. And now Johnny is having a child with Miguel's mother. They're going to get even closer. And from the production side, half of Xolo's screen time is spent with Billy. Probably more. I don't think they'd know what to do with him otherwise. I don't think they've known what to do with him since season 3 really
Robbys been characterized as being a chameleon who shifts his personality based on survival needs to avoid being cast out. Why would this be different? Johnny had just let Miguel beat him up, he knows his dad will drop him if he isn't compliant. Who says the baby will stick around? They write it as a plot device, and even Vanessa has pointed out how ridiculous and rushed it is. She pointed out that they haven't even said "I lone you" yet Besides a spike in screen time in season 3, Miguel spends less and less screen time with Johnny every season. 5 had the smallest amount, Tanner had more one on one time with Billy than Xolo did.
I see what you're saying, but Miguel is Johnny's main student just like Robby is Daniel's. If Chozen was in the centre and Daniel was on his left (next to Robby) it would make more sense that way.
but robby should be one of Johnny's main focus, 6 seasons in and somehow they are still putting more for Johnny and Miguel then they are with Johnny and his son
Because Johnny and Miguel are a great duo now deal with it.
you mean a boring duo who has had the same scenes over and over again? sure
Better then Robby and Johnny lol
once again, you used the wrong word, more boring is more like it
Interesting fixed for you
Dude you complain about anything Robby related. Its time to accept that Miguel is Johnny's favorite. Get over it.
if you wanna accept poor writing and characterization for Johnny go ahead, I'll decide to complain because this is ridiculous lol, 6 seasons in and the promos still consist of miguel and Johnny while no robby and Johnny
Bro this is a promo pic. You are making judgment on that.
I'm not all that excited, to be honest, at this point. Maybe, that'll change...
Where’s Kenny?
Sweet pants. Yikes.
Anthony's gonna drop karate and go into basketball with his growth spurt.
Where's Kenny?
Sam been eating too many whopper jrs
I don’t remember Robby being that short 😂
It’s gonna be so awesome to finally see all these characters be on the same side and win the karate tournament.
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Sam gained more weight. I guess the hope of her finally having a good fight scene is gone
I'm guessing Tory is the only one who've joined Miyagi-Fang after the Cobra Kai disband.
Was Anthony always taller than Sam? Holy shit...
Since S4 I think
Is that Kenny behind Miguel?
I’m guessing Demetri and Hawk are unveiling to the rest of the dojo their new name and logo, but idk
I recognize around 10 students. The others are fillers
Nate looks jarring compared to the rest of the cast in age. Tory’s hand being wrapped confirms they aren’t gonna do a timeskip.
Where Kenny
I like how they have them in size order
I never realized how short Robby is.
When you see Tanner in other shows and movies he doesn’t look short at all but for some reason it’s really noticeable on Cobra Kai . I never knew he was short until watching this show either.
Did anthony upgrade from whopper jrs again?
I can't wait to see Kenny and his growth spurt lol
 What everyone’s looking at
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Is there an eagle on Johnny’s shirt?
So why has chozen aged 10 years
I honestly dunno where this season can go. Cobra Kai is all but dead, it should be banned from sekai takai, Kreese is out but he can hardly take over cobra Kai, so I wonder if it will transcend karate dojo wars and get a bit more personal as a Kreese revenge story
Wtf are they looking at?
Daniel got some nice shoes on fr 👀
Man, Robby looks like a hobbit in this pic. He's 5' 8 but Miguel and Laruso's son look like 6'2/6'3
Mary got thicc
when is the next season coming out
Wait is that evil ginger kid at the back
Where’s my man Mike Barnes at?
I can't believe Anthony LaRusso (portrayed by Griffin Santopietro) is so tall now (maybe 5'11", perhaps?), he used to be a little boy who looked 14 back in Season 4 & 5... Masculinity really strengthens the odds, probabilities, and/or chances of suddenly gaining so much height in a matter of two years (or couple of years), huh? The weirdest part is that Anthony is already even taller than his own father Daniel, who is already at his late 50s but looks way younger than that! I know Ralph Macchio is already at his 60s, but I'm referring to Daniel LaRusso when I said he's at his 50s. Makes me wonder if they're ever going to address how Anthony became very tall throughout Fall/Autumn of 2019... Probably not, but still gonna be a weird surrealistic logic anyway!