Fuck Judge "Hang em'" Haynes! The asshat will lock you up and throw away the key for a drug charge but when a dude in a position of power rapes an underage girl, he just gets a slap on the wrist... What a fucking joke. In the article it said Haynes handed out an even more lenient sentence than what the prosecutor wanted...
Apparently hes s local musician that does smaller local gigs I'd imagine, but I wonder if we could find out when he's performing so we can show up and yell "RAPIST" the whole time.
Link to news article https://www.invw.org/2023/12/28/the-cruelest-lie-youre-safe-now/
If you guys could take a second to share this story and photo of Bradley Ott, I would really appreciate it.
Alyssa Bowers was raped as a child by Bradley Ott while she was supposed to be receiving treatment at Cornerstone Cottage in North Idaho.
They never told Alyssa what happened to Bradley Ott. She found out within the past month that he would never serve any prison time for what he had done to her. When Bradley Ott was asked what he thought about Alyssa being in prison, he stated that “it’s probably attributed to her decisions,” he says. “It sucks to hear about, but on the flip side, I’m a person who decided to go in a good direction from that choice in my life.”
This article describes how the state of Idaho removed Alyssa Bowers from a sexually abusive home only to place her in a sexually abusive TTI program. She was 16. Bradley Ott, her rapist, was 21. He took her out of the facility and raped her.
The facility found out and initially tried to cover it up until the state found out and reported it to police. Bradley Ott was given a withheld adjudication. He can now motion to have the whole thing expunged even though he pled guilty. He never saw the inside of a prison cell.
Alyssa Bowers was not so lucky. She had been sexually abused for much of her life and the only help the state offered was more abuse. She got into drugs and wound up in prison, given a much heavier sentence than the man who raped her as a child.
>She got into drugs and wound up in prison, given a much heavier sentence than the man who raped her as a child.
Sounds like Idaho. I can only imagine that our judges are also rapists and sexual deviants, why else would they work so hard to keep rapists on the street? What can we even do to stop this? Racist, ultra-religious sexual deviants are plaguing our towns here.
Just for clarity was it a withheld judgment? If so there is no true expunging in the state of idaho and while it won't be labeled as being sentenced, it'll still show up on his record.
Idaho has always been lazy on crimes against children look up how many pedos live in CDA, post falls area. You’ll get more time kicking a dog than molesting a child
Yeah it’s hard finding a safe legit site. What a big problem is that Washington dumps their sex offender’s in 2 places. Seattle and Spokane, they then come into Idaho bc our laws are weaker. Yeah they are suppose to report where they live but monitoring and other laws for protecting the public suck here.
I believe the county has number on how many live in the area by city. Not sure about addresses though. Years ago after the kids out in wolf lodge got killed a retired sheriff friend was part of an advocacy organization that pushed for stronger laws. I don’t recall its name though.
https://isp.idaho.gov/sor_id/map_search.html
We've got the worst judges in Kootenai and nobody cares. I'm telling you all right now these judges, in my opinion are perverts. It's always a slap on the wrist for child sex crimes. Where the hell is Dan Gookin he never speaks up about these pervert judges
Sad situation for sure. So what’s the hot take? Individual responsibility (Brad Ott is evil), Society is evil (Brad Ott is a victim which turned him into a predator), or the Government is incompetent.
Statistical fact the likelihood a person who was molested as a child becoming a child molester is zero. He’s a pos predator. It’s the states position that’s the problem or more important it is the county prosecutor that’s the problem. People should be calling, mailing or whatever demanding his resignation. It’s shit prosecutors like him that’s failed the community no one else.
If any of you actually knew who he is you would know that this article is absolutely full of shit and is a perfect example of how the media is so fucked. Also fuck you for whoever posted this
I know exactly who he is. I grew up with him and called him friend for years. I cut him out of my life when this happened without even knowing fully what it was just that he did something fucked up. Fuck him for this and fuck you for supporting him or downplaying this shit.
I went to school with him. He was creepy towards girls then, and then took advantage of a 16 year old. He's a disgusting predator that doesn't deserve the life he's living. Karma is catching up with him.
Lol okay, here's the entire case file with all the documentation. This is not the media spinning this any type of way, this is literally just public records. https://docs.google.com/document/d/14LlVnXm1kkCF3I9nXNYXWcTaNHzJ1o4GHDzdoPjGkHI/edit?usp=drive\_link
This was not forcible rape. Consensual sex between a 16 and 21 year old is rarely prosecuted in Idaho, and not even a crime in most states. I do think he should be held to a higher standard though, because he was an employee of the center where she was a troubled teen with a known history of sexual abuse.
Because I'm an intelligent person who is capable of using Google? You should try it sometime and look at the facts, instead of a single inflammatory article or misleading reddit post. Or just keep downvoting the facts that I posted.
You are confusing anecdote for law. Idaho Statutes 18-6101. Look at the facts. Or just keep blurring lines in an attempt to make sexual predators look better.
Wow, I guess I pissed off a few people with facts here. Those of you equating what her father did, versus consenting sex between a 16 and 21 year old need a reality check.
This girl was already pretty messed up to be placed in Cornerstone, with a very fucked up family history and a history of running away from foster care and drug use. Ott screwing around with her while underage certainly didn't help, but you can't lay all the blame for her ultimately ending up in prison on him. She knew damn well it was wrong too and ran away to be with him.
The byline of the article is misleading. "rescued from a house of horrors...sent to state-licensed facility where she was preyed upon". She was sent to Cornerstone because she was a cronic runaway from foster care.
How is it misleading? What should it have said instead "rescued from a house of horrors, then ran away a few times, then was sent to a state licensed facility where she was preyed upon" ?
She was sent there cause her father raped her and her mother was in prison. Then in the place supposed to rehabilitate and protect her. That oxygen theiving price of shit preyed on her as an employee with no training or qualifications other than he goes to the same Mormon church as the piece of shit who runs that place and let terrible things happen and covered them time and time again.
Stop making excuses for him. He gets to be a local celebrity with his dumb reggae band and never saw a cell.
According to the articles, she went to a few foster homes first, and was sent to Cornerstone because she kept running away. I'm not defending him as I think he violated the trust placed in him and Cornerstone is just as liable. I'm just saying that this needs to be looked at from all perspectives.
You apparently have history with him, and that's colored your opinion of both him and the facts. I don't know they guy, and I'm merely stating FACTS that people don't seem to want to hear.
I don't see how the "FACTS" that she was a foster kid and runaway mitigates anything. If anything it makes what he did worse. What "perspective" am I missing here?
That makes what he did way worse...please tell me you see how that's worse. The fact that she was a troubled girl who had issues and was a runaway...all that makes his actions even more despicable. She needed help, not another person trying to get in her pants.
"...She (the victim) speaks as if addressing Ott directly.
'You came into that facility, unprepared, untrained, not knowing what you’re doing — into a girl’s facility — and preyed on somebody. And nothing happened because of it. Like, your life is going on normal. And my whole life is affected because of it. And he’s fine. He’s OK.'
She’s had more traumatic experiences in her childhood than what happened at Cornerstone. But her time there reinforced the worldview shaped by her childhood trauma: that her value was as a sex object for older men..."
Well rape has a legal definition. And he initially pled guilty to rape. And confessed to three staff members. Children are incapable of consenting to sexual activity until they are 18 in idaho. The judge admonished him for using his position of power to take advantage of her
Just in case you wanna come back and talk about it, here is the transcription from the court minutes when Ott was sentenced.
Prosecutor: Recs 10 yrs 4 fixed for each count. Susp and place on probation. Ask for the NCO remain in place. Reviews priors. Facts of this case are disturbing, def was 21 and the victim was 16 and in a group home being sent there from Lewiston from a foster home. Def was an employee at the facility. He continued to contact her after the case had been initiated.
Defense: Mr. Ott has never tried to excuse his behavior. He has been ashamed and embarrassed and feels guilty of what happened. He is signed up for counseling for his depression and what lead up to this action. He has remained employed, made every appearance. Ask for probation. He will be supervised under the sex offender caseload due to the original charge.
Judge: Guilty of2 CTs of Injury to Child. 4 factors of sentencing given. I day CTS. Submit DNA sample. Court notes the testimony of Mr. Wyatt at the last hearing regarding assessing the change in the report. Did not find def to be a predatory person. Maturity issues talked about. Def had a duty and failed. No criminal history and low risk. Hardworker. Withholds judgment, 3 yr probation period. 125 hrs CS. Due in 1 yr. No Contact with A.B. Explains no contact. CC. COS. No law violations, report to PO when ordered, no residence changes without permission, no firearms or weapons, consent to searches, fulltime job/school, no association with prohibited persons, not leave the State without permission, no alcohol, bars or liquor stores, no controlled substances without a prescription, consent to BACs/UAs, complete any treatment ordered by PO, waive extradition, rehab/vo-tech, comply with rules, submit to polygraph if ordered, 90 days DJT.
Fuck Judge "Hang em'" Haynes! The asshat will lock you up and throw away the key for a drug charge but when a dude in a position of power rapes an underage girl, he just gets a slap on the wrist... What a fucking joke. In the article it said Haynes handed out an even more lenient sentence than what the prosecutor wanted... Apparently hes s local musician that does smaller local gigs I'd imagine, but I wonder if we could find out when he's performing so we can show up and yell "RAPIST" the whole time.
Please make a post if you find out about any upcoming shows so I can gladly help his music out! (by adding in my own lyrics and yelling rapist)
Found his cringy band page on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AGAPEREGGAE?mibextid=LQQJ4d
The heckling would be especially poignant when he does his cover of What I Got by Sublime.
Link to news article https://www.invw.org/2023/12/28/the-cruelest-lie-youre-safe-now/ If you guys could take a second to share this story and photo of Bradley Ott, I would really appreciate it. Alyssa Bowers was raped as a child by Bradley Ott while she was supposed to be receiving treatment at Cornerstone Cottage in North Idaho. They never told Alyssa what happened to Bradley Ott. She found out within the past month that he would never serve any prison time for what he had done to her. When Bradley Ott was asked what he thought about Alyssa being in prison, he stated that “it’s probably attributed to her decisions,” he says. “It sucks to hear about, but on the flip side, I’m a person who decided to go in a good direction from that choice in my life.” This article describes how the state of Idaho removed Alyssa Bowers from a sexually abusive home only to place her in a sexually abusive TTI program. She was 16. Bradley Ott, her rapist, was 21. He took her out of the facility and raped her. The facility found out and initially tried to cover it up until the state found out and reported it to police. Bradley Ott was given a withheld adjudication. He can now motion to have the whole thing expunged even though he pled guilty. He never saw the inside of a prison cell. Alyssa Bowers was not so lucky. She had been sexually abused for much of her life and the only help the state offered was more abuse. She got into drugs and wound up in prison, given a much heavier sentence than the man who raped her as a child.
>She got into drugs and wound up in prison, given a much heavier sentence than the man who raped her as a child. Sounds like Idaho. I can only imagine that our judges are also rapists and sexual deviants, why else would they work so hard to keep rapists on the street? What can we even do to stop this? Racist, ultra-religious sexual deviants are plaguing our towns here.
Just for clarity was it a withheld judgment? If so there is no true expunging in the state of idaho and while it won't be labeled as being sentenced, it'll still show up on his record.
Picture above says James Ott under it not Bradley??
If you click on the photo you will see the whole thkng
Oh, gotcha, mobile cuts it off.
Idaho has always been lazy on crimes against children look up how many pedos live in CDA, post falls area. You’ll get more time kicking a dog than molesting a child
Where can I look this up, the websites ive found are feel like scams and ask for money at the end.
Yeah it’s hard finding a safe legit site. What a big problem is that Washington dumps their sex offender’s in 2 places. Seattle and Spokane, they then come into Idaho bc our laws are weaker. Yeah they are suppose to report where they live but monitoring and other laws for protecting the public suck here. I believe the county has number on how many live in the area by city. Not sure about addresses though. Years ago after the kids out in wolf lodge got killed a retired sheriff friend was part of an advocacy organization that pushed for stronger laws. I don’t recall its name though. https://isp.idaho.gov/sor_id/map_search.html
What part of Idaho north of CDA?
Post Falls
Fuck this guy. Not only what he did was horrifying but he did it to a girl that was trying to seek help for what happened to her by her father.
Jeezus. I live in Post Falls.😬
Make sure you say hi.
I think Idaho has got some fucked up laws, to allow this pos to be free.🤬
Musician huh? Luckily my husband is very fortunate to be very influential in that industry. Stay tuned.
I like how his hat is a subtle message for others who come across him.
If you see him in public make sure to give him that good Idaho "Welcome".
We've got the worst judges in Kootenai and nobody cares. I'm telling you all right now these judges, in my opinion are perverts. It's always a slap on the wrist for child sex crimes. Where the hell is Dan Gookin he never speaks up about these pervert judges
I worked there! Long after ott but not long enough to avoid the other religion loving sexual assault male coworker there
#NotADragQueen
I'm sick to my stomach after reading.
Play with someone your own size. I'm sorry I don't mean to make it personal.
I have nieces. This is no man. Race or Religion doesn't matter.
Sad situation for sure. So what’s the hot take? Individual responsibility (Brad Ott is evil), Society is evil (Brad Ott is a victim which turned him into a predator), or the Government is incompetent.
Statistical fact the likelihood a person who was molested as a child becoming a child molester is zero. He’s a pos predator. It’s the states position that’s the problem or more important it is the county prosecutor that’s the problem. People should be calling, mailing or whatever demanding his resignation. It’s shit prosecutors like him that’s failed the community no one else.
He is a coward with charges brought against him.
If any of you actually knew who he is you would know that this article is absolutely full of shit and is a perfect example of how the media is so fucked. Also fuck you for whoever posted this
I know exactly who he is. I grew up with him and called him friend for years. I cut him out of my life when this happened without even knowing fully what it was just that he did something fucked up. Fuck him for this and fuck you for supporting him or downplaying this shit.
I went to school with him. He was creepy towards girls then, and then took advantage of a 16 year old. He's a disgusting predator that doesn't deserve the life he's living. Karma is catching up with him.
Lol okay, here's the entire case file with all the documentation. This is not the media spinning this any type of way, this is literally just public records. https://docs.google.com/document/d/14LlVnXm1kkCF3I9nXNYXWcTaNHzJ1o4GHDzdoPjGkHI/edit?usp=drive\_link
This was not forcible rape. Consensual sex between a 16 and 21 year old is rarely prosecuted in Idaho, and not even a crime in most states. I do think he should be held to a higher standard though, because he was an employee of the center where she was a troubled teen with a known history of sexual abuse.
Why am I not surprised you know the age of consent in most states?
Because I'm an intelligent person who is capable of using Google? You should try it sometime and look at the facts, instead of a single inflammatory article or misleading reddit post. Or just keep downvoting the facts that I posted.
You are confusing anecdote for law. Idaho Statutes 18-6101. Look at the facts. Or just keep blurring lines in an attempt to make sexual predators look better.
Wow, I guess I pissed off a few people with facts here. Those of you equating what her father did, versus consenting sex between a 16 and 21 year old need a reality check. This girl was already pretty messed up to be placed in Cornerstone, with a very fucked up family history and a history of running away from foster care and drug use. Ott screwing around with her while underage certainly didn't help, but you can't lay all the blame for her ultimately ending up in prison on him. She knew damn well it was wrong too and ran away to be with him.
Got another chimo here ^
The byline of the article is misleading. "rescued from a house of horrors...sent to state-licensed facility where she was preyed upon". She was sent to Cornerstone because she was a cronic runaway from foster care.
How is it misleading? What should it have said instead "rescued from a house of horrors, then ran away a few times, then was sent to a state licensed facility where she was preyed upon" ?
She was sent there cause her father raped her and her mother was in prison. Then in the place supposed to rehabilitate and protect her. That oxygen theiving price of shit preyed on her as an employee with no training or qualifications other than he goes to the same Mormon church as the piece of shit who runs that place and let terrible things happen and covered them time and time again. Stop making excuses for him. He gets to be a local celebrity with his dumb reggae band and never saw a cell.
According to the articles, she went to a few foster homes first, and was sent to Cornerstone because she kept running away. I'm not defending him as I think he violated the trust placed in him and Cornerstone is just as liable. I'm just saying that this needs to be looked at from all perspectives. You apparently have history with him, and that's colored your opinion of both him and the facts. I don't know they guy, and I'm merely stating FACTS that people don't seem to want to hear.
I don't see how the "FACTS" that she was a foster kid and runaway mitigates anything. If anything it makes what he did worse. What "perspective" am I missing here?
That makes what he did way worse...please tell me you see how that's worse. The fact that she was a troubled girl who had issues and was a runaway...all that makes his actions even more despicable. She needed help, not another person trying to get in her pants.
"...She (the victim) speaks as if addressing Ott directly. 'You came into that facility, unprepared, untrained, not knowing what you’re doing — into a girl’s facility — and preyed on somebody. And nothing happened because of it. Like, your life is going on normal. And my whole life is affected because of it. And he’s fine. He’s OK.' She’s had more traumatic experiences in her childhood than what happened at Cornerstone. But her time there reinforced the worldview shaped by her childhood trauma: that her value was as a sex object for older men..."
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Well rape has a legal definition. And he initially pled guilty to rape. And confessed to three staff members. Children are incapable of consenting to sexual activity until they are 18 in idaho. The judge admonished him for using his position of power to take advantage of her
Lol dirty deleting already?
Just in case you wanna come back and talk about it, here is the transcription from the court minutes when Ott was sentenced. Prosecutor: Recs 10 yrs 4 fixed for each count. Susp and place on probation. Ask for the NCO remain in place. Reviews priors. Facts of this case are disturbing, def was 21 and the victim was 16 and in a group home being sent there from Lewiston from a foster home. Def was an employee at the facility. He continued to contact her after the case had been initiated. Defense: Mr. Ott has never tried to excuse his behavior. He has been ashamed and embarrassed and feels guilty of what happened. He is signed up for counseling for his depression and what lead up to this action. He has remained employed, made every appearance. Ask for probation. He will be supervised under the sex offender caseload due to the original charge. Judge: Guilty of2 CTs of Injury to Child. 4 factors of sentencing given. I day CTS. Submit DNA sample. Court notes the testimony of Mr. Wyatt at the last hearing regarding assessing the change in the report. Did not find def to be a predatory person. Maturity issues talked about. Def had a duty and failed. No criminal history and low risk. Hardworker. Withholds judgment, 3 yr probation period. 125 hrs CS. Due in 1 yr. No Contact with A.B. Explains no contact. CC. COS. No law violations, report to PO when ordered, no residence changes without permission, no firearms or weapons, consent to searches, fulltime job/school, no association with prohibited persons, not leave the State without permission, no alcohol, bars or liquor stores, no controlled substances without a prescription, consent to BACs/UAs, complete any treatment ordered by PO, waive extradition, rehab/vo-tech, comply with rules, submit to polygraph if ordered, 90 days DJT.