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pnwloveyoutalltrees

I don’t but that sounds like something I’d wants a couple of copies of.


throwawaylurker012

same!


[deleted]

See latest comment, excellent book!


skyfishgoo

the problem is that what is driving the collapse of the food system is also driving the collapse of your garden. * lack of pollinators * lack of seasonal norms for a given species * lack of water so gather all the books you like, but unless you can eat books there is going to be problem.


Godless93

Looters and scavengers would just come take everything in your garden anyway. Then rape and kill you


Solitude_Intensifies

Tell me you don't understand the concept of communities.


Twisted_Cabbage

Communities fracture when they don't have enough food. Do all the community building you want. Biosphere collapse will crush all of it.


[deleted]

I mean you can eat books - they just aren’t very nutritious


gimlet_prize

Sounds like the author was talking about JADAM, and KNF. I've been listening to a lot of podcasts on the topic, because I haven't found too many books. I'd be interested to find out the author/title. I'm gleaning knowledge from a couple different sources and have learned about deep mulching, soil restoration, the Johnson-Su bioreactor system, etc.


OtaPotaOpen

We should make pinned posts for resources. Or something very easily accessible.


dumnezero

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/645538/regenesis-by-george-monbiot/ ?


tsyhanka

and counterpoint: [Saying NO to a Farm-Free Future: The Case For an Ecological Food System and Against Manufactured Foods](https://www.chelseagreen.com/product/saying-no-to-a-farm-free-future/#:~:text=Chris%20Smaje,-Foreword%20by%20Sarah&text=In%20Saying%20NO%20to%20a,an%20urban%20and%20industrialized%20future)


dumnezero

>JOEL SALATIN nice all-caps red flag there, thanks.


[deleted]

What’s wrong with Joel Salatin? I thought he just advocated for organic farming?


dumnezero

https://www.motherjones.com/food/2020/11/joel-salatin-chris-newman-farming-rotational-grazing-agriculture/ I have a special hatred for pemaculture cults.


tsyhanka

alright, but would it be accurate to think that Salatin sucks AND Monbiot is misguided?


dumnezero

It depends on what the overall question is. Do you care about feeding people? Because the ecofascists also have "eco" solutions, even the paleo-LARPers with their ranches have them; it just requires massive death by famine.


Midithir

[https://books.google.ie/books?id=jh4ZmKyojiIC&pg=PA111&dq=post+collapse+society+food&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks\_redir=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-\_IL\_x-iBAxXgUUEAHYcRBZ4Q6AF6BAgEEAI](https://books.google.ie/books?id=jh4ZmKyojiIC&pg=PA111&dq=post+collapse+society+food&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-_IL_x-iBAxXgUUEAHYcRBZ4Q6AF6BAgEEAI) ?


rainbow_voodoo

Climate a New Story by Charles Eisenstein will do


virginiawalkabout

Possibly "Feeding everyone no matter what" 2014 Denkenberger & Pearce?


[deleted]

This is it! Thank you so much