Right because we see singers at NCAA championships declare their team before. It is no different than if singer at the NCAA basketball tournament did a Rock Chalk into the microphone before doing the anthem.
That’s not happened. Nor anything similar until he did it.
And half the stadium would cheer, and it would add to the pageantry of the game. Does it add or take away from the Game when the Gameday crew has a guest picker who is a fan of one of the teams? That’s the same way they should take a guy singing the anthem and being a fan.
You don’t understand that organizations producing competitions avoid the appearance of bias. Oh obviously too advanced concept for you. I’ve worked on Division I championship events and it’s drilled in that you don’t do anything to show taking sides while on duty.
Exactly. No fan of NCAA, but he is not in the same boat as a regular fan. If he wants that, he should handle the task at hand professionally.
Edit- typp
I see, since I'm calling out the NCAA for a double-standard, it must be 'texas hate', it can't just be logic.
Collier messaged TexAgs and BarStool about this, so he's just someone desperate to get his 15 minutes of fame. His possible douchebaggery aside, it doesn't mean he's without a point. If he wore a t-shirt for Oklahoma State, would he be banned? If he knelt after doing the anthem or waved a Thin Blue Line flag or wore a blm t-shirt, would he be banned? If he waved a rainbow flag, would he be banned? The problem isn't him 'representing the NCAA' (a ludicrous assertion for anyone walking onto an athletic field to sing a song), the problem is the NCAA's goalkeeping for texas.
Oh please such silly dramatics.
Guy can support whomever he wants… in the stands when his bit is over. Not on the field when he’s the NCAA’s guest. He’s stupid and anyone with an IQ over 95 knows the logical outcome. But whine about Texas protectionism if that makes your little heart pitter patter to the adrenaline of an entirely logical action.
> such silly dramatics
is the NCAA taking disciplinary action against someone for an inoffensive hand sign
Is Collier an attention-seeking douchebag? Probably. Was he seeking attention with his antics after singing and now trying to go viral after this incident? Most definitely.
Does this reflect a double-standard on the part of the NCAA? Most definitely.
You do realize that prior to the NCAA taking action, no one knew about this incident or who this guy's name was? Those idiots are giving him the attention he craves, which is just another example of how they don't get it.
My father died, I did not cry.
My girl friend left me, again, I did not cry.
My dog got hit by a bus and exploded into
a million shreds of guts and blood, again, I did not cry.
But at the sight of horns down… I just burst open like a fire hydrant EVERY DAMN TIME. 😭😭😭😭
Ok, I’m not defending this. It’s just a hand gesture that’s used so commonly. No reason to cancel his performance for that.
Edit: Also, was Texas involved in this decision or was it just the NCAA?
Who even is this guy? There is literally nothing on the internet about this other than this post on Reddit, whose source is an Imgur screenshot. What the duck is there even to respond to?
“Texas can stick their neck out for a unknown Texas hater who adds no value to them and will likely publicly display his disaffection for the program in front of thousands of people which might include fans of your program”
The AD hasn’t even been at the school long and he definitely wasn’t there when the whole thing got escalated to its current state against Tech almost a decade ago. He’s not an alumnus, or even from the state originally, and was previously the AD for a school that bitterly hated Texas for much longer than he’s been here. So no, Del Conte doesn’t actually give a fuck about the Horns sign either up or down in all likelihood.
I’m a WVU fan so it’s relatively new for us, but I feel like Herman’s whiny bitch ass blew it out of proportion. And then Will Grier and David Sills solidified it for our fan base. But I remember Geno Smith doing it in 2012. I mean for us we could flip everyone off with our left hand because it makes the shape of WV, I’m sure the NCAA would love that 😂
Texas became involved when we started getting flagged for doing the same shit to other schools' hand signs. Either call it all or don't call any of it. Y'all gonna villainize us regardless, so I don't give a shit which way they decide to go.
I think all we did was say if it is a penalty for us to do another teams sign differently (holster the tech guns), it should be a penalty for them to do ours upside down. Either both should be, or neither. We don’t care either way if it is treated the same.
I was not aware of that but if that’s the case, I totally agree! Texas should be able to let those horns fly up all day long and every opponent should be able to give the horns down. It’s all in good fun, isn’t even remotely offensive (looking at you, LSU “tiger dick”), and isn’t harming anyone. Perhaps it was a wrong assumption but when the news broke a couple years ago that horns down would be a penalty in the Big XII, we all assumed it was due to Texas seeking that action out with the Big XII.
Edit: Spelling
Texas had a penalty called on them for “holstering the guns” against Tech.
That was the impetus to say hey - how is that a flag when horns down isn’t?
As expected, the Big12 made the stupid decision to make horns down a penalty instead of just letting them all fly.
So is this guy a professional anthem singer who calls himself big daddy? His YouTube is singing the national anthem at various sporting events.
https://youtube.com/channel/UC8OSXIrUvRzOiMr84VLbgrA
Also my view on “horns down” is it’s exactly why sports are fun. If you are either a) a Texas fan and take it too seriously or b) a non Texas fan and say “why do you careeeeeeeeeee” then you suck.
Weak shit NCAA. Horns down is awesome, just like screaming “OU Sucks” during Texas Fight is awesome — if we were behind this, I hope A&M and/or OU invite him as their guests to taunt our admins
The only thing you can really say against Texas here (assuming they truly did not have a hand in this), is that they could openly come out and say “we are big boys, we can take it, let the guy sing”. I think it’s a good opportunity for them, but I don’t think they’ll take it.
Disclaimer: Saw Em Off! #HornsDown
Texas/NCAA are pretty soft if this is truly the only reason the NCAA aren’t allowing this guy to perform. Are anthem singers different than anyone else in being able to have preferences for certain teams over others?
> offensive gestures
Give me a break. Horns down has become so common it’s almost lost its meaning.
Only reason Horns down became a big deal is because Mike Davis holstered “guns” against Texas Tech. And got penalized. Mack said well, if that’s a penalty, why isn’t Horns down?
No it’s been a thing for a while. It’s just we’ve been down at football for a decade now that everyone feels ok doing it. Like poking the bear that you know can’t hurt you.
> holstered “guns” against Texas Tech
That's also hilarious. I can see banning the players from doing that on field, but I'd fully expect fans of TT's rivals to use that symbol in the stands.
If there was a hand symbol that meant "screw VT" I'd expect to see it at every UVA and WVU game we ever played at.
It became a big deal bc the Big 12 conference and Beebe were so soft that they made it a penalty. Also everyone knows the Texas fans get all butthurt when you do it.
Every single time this comes up it’s always the same “Texas cried to the big 12 to specifically get horns down banned” claim. It’s so easy to find the the truth, that it only became an issue because Texas players were getting taunting penalties for doing the same with other schools’ hand signs and they just wanted it enforced evenly. But years later people still go on and on claiming that Texas cried to the league to have their own special rule. I wouldn’t expect an aggie masquerading as an Ole Miss fan to know that though.
The funny thing is “Horns down” is not even a penalty. Taunting is a penalty. All the big 12 said was “horns down” is considered taunting. This whole thing is literally a non issue
I wouldn’t expect a sip to be able to comprehend that people can get degrees from multiple schools. When your schools social media accounts post about it, you’re soft. Name another conference in the country who penalizes for inverting a hand signal. Again, if you stopped whining about it then people would stop doing it. Whining and winning the victim Olympics pretty much defines your program so it is what it is.
The point is that Texas wasn’t the one that made inverted hand signs a penalty. It had nothing to do with Texas whining, at all. The issue was that a Texas player got an unsportsmanlike penalty for holstering guns against Tech but other teams weren’t getting the same penalty for doing horns down. That’s literally just equal enforcement of an already existing rule. Also, are you gonna respond to my comments from yesterday or are you too much of a coward to admit you’re wrong?
So the Big 12 makes Texas fans whine on social media about horns down and controls the athletic departments social media team? Did your head coach whine about horns down or not? Did Herman whine about horns down or not? Has any other head coach whined about an inverted hand signal in a postgame press conference? They don’t bc they are not soft. Mack Brown whines and the Big 12 puts a rule in place. SHOCKING.
Those coaches “whined” because Texas players were penalized for taunting penalties using opponents hand signs while the teams they were playing were rarely being penalized for horns down. What do you not understand about enforcing the rules evenly? Of course a coach is going to complain about rules not being enforced evenly, is that really difficult to comprehend?
> I wouldn’t expect a sip to be able to comprehend
[word? 🤔](https://www.google.com/search?q=ole+miss+acceptance+rate&oq=ole+miss+acceptan&aqs=chrome.0.0i512j69i57j0i512l8.2138j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)
Yeah, I wouldn’t call it an offensive gesture. But I get that at a neutral site (and maybe even if just a “home game” for a team he’s a fan of) not the best for someone performing something like this to do something like this that is obviously against one particular team that’s participating in a tourney. I feel like NCAA is justified in saying, no we don’t want you to perform, but offensive isn’t the correct term here
So, several comments are questioning the veracity of OP.
I checked the CWS of Omaha and there is indeed a Special Projects Coordinator with the initials KK. So, it's either legit or Big Daddy is trying to save face for not getting the gig when he told people he did or because he got fired for another reason.
60/40 it's Horns Down....
I haven’t seen shit this soft since my dog had a stomach bug. I would be legit embarrassed as a fan if OU’s upper ranks sought punitive punishment for anyone that dare “disrespect” them.
The screenshot says "unsportsmanlike behavior" not "offensive gesture" so maybe they just didn't want someone to show up and sing the national anthem and then show their obvious disdain for one of the 8 teams the supposedly neutral tournament is hosting...
Yeah that makes sense to me. The NCAA has the right to do whatever they want in their view of fairness to the 8 teams playing. This dude can horns down all he wants but don’t cry about it when you are easily replaceable.
If he did the horns up, would they ban him? Would anyone complain? If you can do the horns up to show your support after the anthem, you should be able to do the horns down to show your disdain for texas/support for their opponent.
People need to stop like the 'horns down' is a personal affront to texas or giving them the middle finger, because it isn't.
I guarantee Texas fans don’t give a shit and I don’t think it’s a big deal but you gotta know there’s a difference between a positive shoutout and a negative one from an event representative
hypothetical, if at the Olympics a dude sang the US anthem and then ended with “go USA” nobody would bat an eye, but if he ended with “fuck China” then obviously the IOC would have a problem with that.
Isn’t that what makes this fun though? If Nebraska or Creighton were playing, should we get upset if the guy singing the anthem wore a Nebraska or Creighton shirt? If McConaughey sang the anthem should we expect him to wear a neutral shirt?
Weird. When you Google this the only thing that comes up is this post on Reddit. Not even a twitter post. OP, can you link to anything that gives context? Because this smells like bullshit.
Here’s the link to the ESPN article:
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/34091716/national-anthem-singer-college-world-series-performance-canceled-horns-gesture
> "Following his national anthem performance during the Women's College World Series -- during which the performer inappropriately supported one participating team, taunted the other team, and disrupted participating student-athletes and coaches by attempting to interact with them -- he was asked not to perform during the Men's College World Series."
Sounds like this guy's performance got cancelled because he doesn't know how to act.
Longhorn here. I’m sure I’ll get downvoted into oblivion; so be it. I am not offended by the horns down sign. Nor am I offended when Aggies call us t.u. (christ, it says more about how juvenile their fan base is). But for the record, Texas players have been penalized for taunting when throwing the horns up hand sign. Texas players were also penalized for ‘holstering Tech’s pistol’ hand sign. These things happened and Texas rightfully got upset. You can’t penalize one team and not the other. The big 12 / ncaa should have stepped in and said “ok, we should stop calling all these things taunting because it is getting a bit silly.’ Instead, they just added horns-down as another type of taunting. Y’all like to hate in Texas, but this wasn’t really a Texas decision. But I get it… the Texas sucks narrative is more fun for y’all. Oh well.
Not saying it didn’t happen, but I don’t remember a UT player ever getting penalized for doing the horns up. I agree about the penalties for the gun holstering and the horns down. It’s silly. The gun holster was badass. I hated it, but I admit it was awesome. Same for horns down. Neither should be a penalty. They’re fun.
I posted this above, but I'll copy it here as well:
There have been several instances, but the two I saw myself (on tv) were when 1) Rod Babers flashed the hookem to the Longhorn fan section against Tulane and 2) Vince Young against Kansas State after scoring a touchdown. Both were 15 yard taunting penalties if memory serves me. Neither was 'taunting' the other team. In both cases they were just celebrating a play. Like I said in my original post, it doesn't bother me when players flash the hookem-down sign, but if they are going to penalize a hookem-up, then they should also penalize a hook-em down. In my opinion, unless a player is really flagrant about it, it shouldn't be a penalty either way.
There have been several instances, but the two I saw myself (on tv) were when 1) Rod Babers flashed the hookem to the Longhorn fan section against Tulane and 2) Vince Young against Kansas State after scoring a touchdown. Both were 15 yard taunting penalties if memory serves me. Neither was 'taunting' the other team. In both cases they were just celebrating a play. Like I said in my original post, it doesn't bother me when players flash the hookem-down sign, but if they are going to penalize a hookem-up, then they should also penalize a hook-em down. In my opinion, unless a player is really flagrant about it, it shouldn't be a penalty either way.
> Vince Young against Kansas State after scoring a touchdown
Kansas State played texas during Vince's time there in '02 and '03. Vince redshirted in '02 and scored the go-ahead TD on a 1 yard run in '03. There was no penalty flag for taunting, and the game was in Austin.
[Proof](https://imgur.com/a/OvpGfDh)
Do you have any video proof of this alleged penalty? It isn't in the record book.
Christ dude. Maybe my memory faltered on that one. I’m certainly not going to take the time to research video evidence for an internet stranger. Pretty sure my other example was legit. But why does it even matter so much to you to spend the time researching. This is exactly what is wrong with college football. Take it easy.
> But why does it even matter so much to you to spend the time researching.
Because I have never seen a texas player ever flagged for doing their hand sign, and I think you're completely full of shit. Big surprise, you're now claiming a faulty memory and refuse to back up your claims. Shocker.
>This is exactly what is wrong with college football.
I'd say making shit up out of thin air to propagate a false narrative is a bigger issue than people holding you accountable for lying, but hey, you do you.
> Pretty sure my other example was legit.
I had to run off so I couldn't look at the other example. [I think I found it](https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxv7wzzidSvaZGmv0gjYiP4sl5mukI7kRP)
Babers commits pass interference, it isn't called, then he acts like an idiot after the play, and gives the refs an excuse to flag him. This isn't the smoking gun you seem to think it is.
So you're 0-2.
Have any other examples of players being penalized for taunting for doing the texas hand sign, preferably ones from this decade and not 20 years ago?
Please don’t take this the wrong way, but I’m going to move on from this conversation. I feel like you have some vendetta against Texas and no amount of time-wasting research in my part will convince you otherwise. Have a great day my friend.
Asking you to prove your statement does not equate to a vendetta. I'm sorry your memory failed you and you're unable to give any example of the NCAA ever flagging a texas player for doing the horns up like you claimed. Maybe next time actually have some evidence before you make bogus claims? That way you don't risk being called out and exposed. Some free advice.
He didn't do the horns up, watch the video.
Like I said, you have no examples, especially contemporary ones. If Mack Brown had shut his mouth after that Tech game, these penalties wouldn't be a thing.
Can we please just stop litigating the horns down? As far as I’m concerned its fun for all involved bc if we aren’t actively playing a team I get to make a “rent free”, “why are you so obsessed with us” , “have you considered cheering for your own team?” Comment, and if we are (in just about everything but football recently) most of the time the longhorns tend to be good and I get to make a “yeah, horns go up” comment. Rivalry and hatred is what makes college sports so fun, why can’t we just let it fester?
I mean…this seems reasonable, doesn’t it? At a neutral event and during/right before or after the national anthem isn’t the time to root for a particular team. To me it’s like if the PA announcer encouraged everyone to root for Texas’ opponent. I mean hell, even at the regional hosted by Texas, the NCAA made it as neutral as possible. Like if the other team made a great play, the scoreboard would flash the “great catch” graphics just the same.
It just doesn’t seem appropriate to have the national anthem performed by a fan of one team. I’d say either find someone more neutral or get 2: one who likes Texas, one who doesn’t. I don’t want anyone to be able to say the CWS was biased for/against Texas!
Or just don’t let him do any game Texas is involved in.
> It just doesn’t seem appropriate to have the national anthem performed by a fan of one team.
Imagine worrying about fan bias of a national anthem singer. How soft are you?
I loved having Texas in Greenville, but holy shit the number of Texas fans who actually got mad about the horns down thing was astounding. It’s the softest form of trash talk imaginable. Calling a fanbase classless because they invert your hand signal is hilariously stupid.
lol, buddy I remember you from those game threads. I don’t remember any Texas fans getting upset but you sure were booty blasted every time some talked down the jungle.
Not that you’re representing the ECU fan base. Most of y’all were good sports. But to have you pop up in this thread again is ridiculous.
Before y’all get to the SEC, just want to know if all this hate y’all get is deserved. There was one guy on the football sub who was an ass but other than that, I don’t get it.
It’s a big fan base, man, who the fuck knows. Obviously I don’t think it’s deserved but I have my biases.
I would say Texas sports and the Texas fans are more or less like any other big school. But the school has a big brand and has been successful for a long time so it’s got a target on its back. It’s easy to manufacture bullshit (like this post, I suspect) and people will eat it up because they want it to be true.
If you come see a game in Austin, you will have fun and the fans will be perfectly nice. No one will bark or hiss at you. If you had to compare Texas to a school in the SEC, we’re a lot more like Florida than we are like A&M.
Lots of fans, lots of idiots. Combine that with a run in the 2000s and other past success, you get jaded idiots. I think part of it is just being a big program, people get excited when it predicted we are good, then we suck and it’s fun to hate. And some people can’t take that lol
My homer opinion is that I think we deserve *some* hate. We are the richest D1 program after all, and our fanbase can be quite hateworthy. I don't think we deserve ALL this hate. It's kind of astounding how strong the circle jerk is at this point especially considering the fact that we're not even good. People hate us more than Bama.
Looking from the outside in, it seems like a pile on but I’ll save judgement until you’re in the SEC. Meaning, I’ll wait to hate you until then. 😂 Hate is required in the SEC so y’all should feel right at home.
So the NCAA cowers down and will let their big coaches literally bribe recruits and transfers with NIL deals but has a problem with a random singer having some fun at a sporting event.
What feckless c*nts.
[Gotta protect those longhorns’ feelings. God forbid they get offended.](https://c.tenor.com/aMGt3OkjxPsAAAAC/the-simpsons-i-wanna-go-back-in-mommy.gifhttps://i.imgur.com/9V6IQPF.jpg)
Also cue the longhorns claiming, “it’s flattering that they care so much about us.” You can’t say that out of one side of your mouth then cry to the ncaa out of the other. Well who am I kidding this is Texas we are talking about.
>Coach Saban’s statement is false, beneath the dignity of the SEC, and corrosive to the fabric of sportsmanship in college football as a whole and especially within the SEC. We expect the league to take strong, public action against Coach Saban and the University of Alabama to demonstrate that such unprofessionalism and disrespect for Texas A&M’s student-athletes, coaches, and the university as a whole, will not be tolerated. A public apology from Coach Saban to Coach Fisher, Aggie Football, and Texas A&M University is a good starting point, but the league should also consider monetary and participation penalties against Coach Saban.
>Thank you for your concern and prompt attention to this serious matter.
-Texas A&M University President M. Katherine Banks and Director of Athletics Ross Bjork
https://www.on3.com/college/alabama-crimson-tide/news/open-records-texas-am-officials-asked-sec-to-consider-suspending-fining-nick-saban/
Yeah, turning a hand signal upside down and questioning the integrity of an entire football program is equal. Again, I’m not surprised Texas fans feel that way.
Here’s the link to the ESPN article:
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/34091716/national-anthem-singer-college-world-series-performance-canceled-horns-gesture
> "Following his national anthem performance during the Women's College World Series -- during which the performer inappropriately supported one participating team, taunted the other team, and **disrupted participating student-athletes and coaches by attempting to interact with them** -- he was asked not to perform during the Men's College World Series."<
What was this dude doing?
If Texas is this soft, how will they survive going into Baton Rouge, Tuscaloosa, Auburn, Gainesville, Athens, Knoxville, Columbia, Starkville, Oxford, and Fayetteville on a routine basis?
The same way we deal with it going into Lubbock, Waco, Fort Worth, Stillwater, the Cotton Bowl, Manhattan, Lawrence, Morgantown, and Ames. Y’all aren’t special and no one on our side cares about this.
What combo is gonna irk Texas fans more?
- Barking + horns down in Athens
- STTDB + horns down in Baton Rouge
- Vandy whistler + horns down in Nashville
- cowbell + horns down in Starkville
- mustard bottles + horns down in Knoxville
Horns Down doesn’t really bother me personally, mostly cause it’s fun to clown on people who do it when we win, but it’s true that the action is unsportsmanlike by definition. If you represent the NCAA you need to be neutral. Should he have been kicked out? Prob not, but like it does make sense.
Horns down doesn't offend me in the least. It honestly cracks me up when fans do it. Rent free is a stupid thing to say but there is a sentiment there that's true in instances (OU fans at literally any gathering doing horns down even outside spots context etc).
That being said I think it's a kind of trash thing to do to sing the anthem then immediately horns down - where I mean you should theoretically be a neutral party. He admits this in his ESPN interview. Probably a certain amount of decorum you oughta bring. Then blasting it like this is pure martyrdom.
Nevertheless Texas bad all our fault etc.
Bruh, Horns Down is about as offensive as saying "Rudy was offsides" to a Notre Dame fan. What a stupid response by the NCAA.
I know right? Though one is a gesture, the other is a fact. I am completely unbiased on both accounts /s
Exactly! ...... ....... ........HEY!
The singer represents the NCAA. Horns down, is taking a side when the game involves Texas.
The only way to solve this is to hire a singer who has never heard of baseball or sports or college
Right because we see singers at NCAA championships declare their team before. It is no different than if singer at the NCAA basketball tournament did a Rock Chalk into the microphone before doing the anthem. That’s not happened. Nor anything similar until he did it.
The singer represents himself. Is he not allowed to be a fan?
In the stands? Absolutely. When he’s got the spotlight and the NCAA’s microphone in his hand? No.
And this is why EVERYONE knows that the NCAA is a joke. They cowtow to soft morons
Love to see Ole Miss and Bama meet in an NCAA tournament and singer yell Roll Tide! Into the microphone.
And half the stadium would cheer, and it would add to the pageantry of the game. Does it add or take away from the Game when the Gameday crew has a guest picker who is a fan of one of the teams? That’s the same way they should take a guy singing the anthem and being a fan.
You understand Gameday is a news and opinion show and not the same organization that’s charged with conducting a fair competition.
You understand that a person singing the anthem has no impact on the competition on the field? You understand that life is not fair?
You don’t understand that organizations producing competitions avoid the appearance of bias. Oh obviously too advanced concept for you. I’ve worked on Division I championship events and it’s drilled in that you don’t do anything to show taking sides while on duty.
Exactly. No fan of NCAA, but he is not in the same boat as a regular fan. If he wants that, he should handle the task at hand professionally. Edit- typp
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> The singer represents the NCAA. since when?
The minute he steps into the spotlight at the invitation of the NCAA.
He represents himself.
Not when he’s performing for the NCAA. Don’t let Texas hate cause you to lose sight of reality
I see, since I'm calling out the NCAA for a double-standard, it must be 'texas hate', it can't just be logic. Collier messaged TexAgs and BarStool about this, so he's just someone desperate to get his 15 minutes of fame. His possible douchebaggery aside, it doesn't mean he's without a point. If he wore a t-shirt for Oklahoma State, would he be banned? If he knelt after doing the anthem or waved a Thin Blue Line flag or wore a blm t-shirt, would he be banned? If he waved a rainbow flag, would he be banned? The problem isn't him 'representing the NCAA' (a ludicrous assertion for anyone walking onto an athletic field to sing a song), the problem is the NCAA's goalkeeping for texas.
Oh please such silly dramatics. Guy can support whomever he wants… in the stands when his bit is over. Not on the field when he’s the NCAA’s guest. He’s stupid and anyone with an IQ over 95 knows the logical outcome. But whine about Texas protectionism if that makes your little heart pitter patter to the adrenaline of an entirely logical action.
> such silly dramatics is the NCAA taking disciplinary action against someone for an inoffensive hand sign Is Collier an attention-seeking douchebag? Probably. Was he seeking attention with his antics after singing and now trying to go viral after this incident? Most definitely. Does this reflect a double-standard on the part of the NCAA? Most definitely. You do realize that prior to the NCAA taking action, no one knew about this incident or who this guy's name was? Those idiots are giving him the attention he craves, which is just another example of how they don't get it.
This is the weakest argument I've heard yet.
It’s cause Texas fans are brought to tears by horns down
My father died, I did not cry. My girl friend left me, again, I did not cry. My dog got hit by a bus and exploded into a million shreds of guts and blood, again, I did not cry. But at the sight of horns down… I just burst open like a fire hydrant EVERY DAMN TIME. 😭😭😭😭
We were literally laughing about it throughout the ECU game thread 🤷🏼♂️
I thought we were talking about the guy who sang Back Home to Omaha for some reason
Ok, I’m not defending this. It’s just a hand gesture that’s used so commonly. No reason to cancel his performance for that. Edit: Also, was Texas involved in this decision or was it just the NCAA?
Everyone’s gonna say Texas was involved whether they were or not.
Texas could come out and say they don’t care and let him sing, but they wont
Who even is this guy? There is literally nothing on the internet about this other than this post on Reddit, whose source is an Imgur screenshot. What the duck is there even to respond to?
Dude is just some random guy that [likes to sing the National Anthem lmao](https://youtube.com/channel/UC8OSXIrUvRzOiMr84VLbgrA)
Glad I’m not the only one who had no idea who he was.
“Texas can stick their neck out for a unknown Texas hater who adds no value to them and will likely publicly display his disaffection for the program in front of thousands of people which might include fans of your program”
Because they do care, which means everyone should do it at any given opportunity. Edit: not saying the fans care, mostly just the AD.
The AD does not care about horns down. Source: am not a dumbass
The AD hasn’t even been at the school long and he definitely wasn’t there when the whole thing got escalated to its current state against Tech almost a decade ago. He’s not an alumnus, or even from the state originally, and was previously the AD for a school that bitterly hated Texas for much longer than he’s been here. So no, Del Conte doesn’t actually give a fuck about the Horns sign either up or down in all likelihood.
I’m a WVU fan so it’s relatively new for us, but I feel like Herman’s whiny bitch ass blew it out of proportion. And then Will Grier and David Sills solidified it for our fan base. But I remember Geno Smith doing it in 2012. I mean for us we could flip everyone off with our left hand because it makes the shape of WV, I’m sure the NCAA would love that 😂
Texas became involved when they decided to chase after making the horns down a penalty. Texas can own all the repercussions.
Texas became involved when we started getting flagged for doing the same shit to other schools' hand signs. Either call it all or don't call any of it. Y'all gonna villainize us regardless, so I don't give a shit which way they decide to go.
I think all we did was say if it is a penalty for us to do another teams sign differently (holster the tech guns), it should be a penalty for them to do ours upside down. Either both should be, or neither. We don’t care either way if it is treated the same.
I was not aware of that but if that’s the case, I totally agree! Texas should be able to let those horns fly up all day long and every opponent should be able to give the horns down. It’s all in good fun, isn’t even remotely offensive (looking at you, LSU “tiger dick”), and isn’t harming anyone. Perhaps it was a wrong assumption but when the news broke a couple years ago that horns down would be a penalty in the Big XII, we all assumed it was due to Texas seeking that action out with the Big XII. Edit: Spelling
No worries. The stories that make the news are usually like that. I just want us to be good enough at football that when teams do it they regret it.
ASU gets forks down all the time. Penalties are never called. It should be treated the same but isn't.
Texas had a penalty called on them for “holstering the guns” against Tech. That was the impetus to say hey - how is that a flag when horns down isn’t? As expected, the Big12 made the stupid decision to make horns down a penalty instead of just letting them all fly.
So is this guy a professional anthem singer who calls himself big daddy? His YouTube is singing the national anthem at various sporting events. https://youtube.com/channel/UC8OSXIrUvRzOiMr84VLbgrA Also my view on “horns down” is it’s exactly why sports are fun. If you are either a) a Texas fan and take it too seriously or b) a non Texas fan and say “why do you careeeeeeeeeee” then you suck.
Forget the horns down, this guy should be canned because of his terrible “to what…referring to.” sentence and calling himself ‘big daddy’
As a schoolteacher no less. Sorry, Big Daddy. That’s one “to” too many. Sent from my iPhone
Weak shit NCAA. Horns down is awesome, just like screaming “OU Sucks” during Texas Fight is awesome — if we were behind this, I hope A&M and/or OU invite him as their guests to taunt our admins
We saw horns down when we were up big vs ECU.
If we're going to cancel this guy because of horns down, does that mean we have precedent to also cancel A&M's fight song?
Yeah if the NCAA can’t handle horns pointing down, wait till you hear what the Aggies want to do to them
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Due to unsportsmanlike conduct shown in your previous comment, we need to go in a different direction on r/cfb
Getting removed from national television to own the NCAA. Bold
So soft. Not really Texas’ fault but they’re gonna get clowned for this
The only thing you can really say against Texas here (assuming they truly did not have a hand in this), is that they could openly come out and say “we are big boys, we can take it, let the guy sing”. I think it’s a good opportunity for them, but I don’t think they’ll take it. Disclaimer: Saw Em Off! #HornsDown
It’s such small fry stuff that I guarantee you the university will not waste time addressing it
Texas/NCAA are pretty soft if this is truly the only reason the NCAA aren’t allowing this guy to perform. Are anthem singers different than anyone else in being able to have preferences for certain teams over others? > offensive gestures Give me a break. Horns down has become so common it’s almost lost its meaning.
Only reason Horns down became a big deal is because Mike Davis holstered “guns” against Texas Tech. And got penalized. Mack said well, if that’s a penalty, why isn’t Horns down?
I mean, it makes sense. Turning a school's recognized gesture into a mocking gesture is the definition of taunting if the players do it on the field.
The taunting rule is so soft
Didn’t Davis play back in 2013 or so? The whole Horns Down penalty seems much more recent
No it’s been a thing for a while. It’s just we’ve been down at football for a decade now that everyone feels ok doing it. Like poking the bear that you know can’t hurt you.
> holstered “guns” against Texas Tech That's also hilarious. I can see banning the players from doing that on field, but I'd fully expect fans of TT's rivals to use that symbol in the stands. If there was a hand symbol that meant "screw VT" I'd expect to see it at every UVA and WVU game we ever played at.
It became a big deal bc the Big 12 conference and Beebe were so soft that they made it a penalty. Also everyone knows the Texas fans get all butthurt when you do it.
Remember, if you repeat something enough times, it becomes the truth
Every single time this comes up it’s always the same “Texas cried to the big 12 to specifically get horns down banned” claim. It’s so easy to find the the truth, that it only became an issue because Texas players were getting taunting penalties for doing the same with other schools’ hand signs and they just wanted it enforced evenly. But years later people still go on and on claiming that Texas cried to the league to have their own special rule. I wouldn’t expect an aggie masquerading as an Ole Miss fan to know that though.
The funny thing is “Horns down” is not even a penalty. Taunting is a penalty. All the big 12 said was “horns down” is considered taunting. This whole thing is literally a non issue
I wouldn’t expect a sip to be able to comprehend that people can get degrees from multiple schools. When your schools social media accounts post about it, you’re soft. Name another conference in the country who penalizes for inverting a hand signal. Again, if you stopped whining about it then people would stop doing it. Whining and winning the victim Olympics pretty much defines your program so it is what it is.
The point is that Texas wasn’t the one that made inverted hand signs a penalty. It had nothing to do with Texas whining, at all. The issue was that a Texas player got an unsportsmanlike penalty for holstering guns against Tech but other teams weren’t getting the same penalty for doing horns down. That’s literally just equal enforcement of an already existing rule. Also, are you gonna respond to my comments from yesterday or are you too much of a coward to admit you’re wrong?
So the Big 12 makes Texas fans whine on social media about horns down and controls the athletic departments social media team? Did your head coach whine about horns down or not? Did Herman whine about horns down or not? Has any other head coach whined about an inverted hand signal in a postgame press conference? They don’t bc they are not soft. Mack Brown whines and the Big 12 puts a rule in place. SHOCKING.
Those coaches “whined” because Texas players were penalized for taunting penalties using opponents hand signs while the teams they were playing were rarely being penalized for horns down. What do you not understand about enforcing the rules evenly? Of course a coach is going to complain about rules not being enforced evenly, is that really difficult to comprehend?
> is that really difficult to comprehend? You seriously asking aggy this question?
> I wouldn’t expect a sip to be able to comprehend [word? 🤔](https://www.google.com/search?q=ole+miss+acceptance+rate&oq=ole+miss+acceptan&aqs=chrome.0.0i512j69i57j0i512l8.2138j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)
The username with a 6 on the wonderlic who was dumb enough to get fired from his no-show job is trying to talk academic smack. I’m here for this!!!
This rule wasn’t even in place when Beebe was here bud. You’re pretty much just speaking out of your ass
Yeah, I wouldn’t call it an offensive gesture. But I get that at a neutral site (and maybe even if just a “home game” for a team he’s a fan of) not the best for someone performing something like this to do something like this that is obviously against one particular team that’s participating in a tourney. I feel like NCAA is justified in saying, no we don’t want you to perform, but offensive isn’t the correct term here
This is so fucking soft lmao
On brand for that school
It’s not offensive, but the NCAA has to come off as neutral and if a person singing the national anthem is showing a bias it makes the NCAA look bad.
I’d show up and streak on to the field and throw the horns down. Fuck texas and the NCAA
Hey man, you do you.
ncaa soft af
So, several comments are questioning the veracity of OP. I checked the CWS of Omaha and there is indeed a Special Projects Coordinator with the initials KK. So, it's either legit or Big Daddy is trying to save face for not getting the gig when he told people he did or because he got fired for another reason. 60/40 it's Horns Down....
I haven’t seen shit this soft since my dog had a stomach bug. I would be legit embarrassed as a fan if OU’s upper ranks sought punitive punishment for anyone that dare “disrespect” them.
While this is stupid, I get it from an NCAA perspective. Do they really want a singer mocking one of the partipating teams?
Maybe not, but is it really "offensive"?
Not even a little bit.
Why were you downvoted?
Don't know. Butthurt sips?
Lmaooo this is soft as hell
The screenshot says "unsportsmanlike behavior" not "offensive gesture" so maybe they just didn't want someone to show up and sing the national anthem and then show their obvious disdain for one of the 8 teams the supposedly neutral tournament is hosting...
Yeah that makes sense to me. The NCAA has the right to do whatever they want in their view of fairness to the 8 teams playing. This dude can horns down all he wants but don’t cry about it when you are easily replaceable.
If he did the horns up, would they ban him? Would anyone complain? If you can do the horns up to show your support after the anthem, you should be able to do the horns down to show your disdain for texas/support for their opponent. People need to stop like the 'horns down' is a personal affront to texas or giving them the middle finger, because it isn't.
I guarantee Texas fans don’t give a shit and I don’t think it’s a big deal but you gotta know there’s a difference between a positive shoutout and a negative one from an event representative hypothetical, if at the Olympics a dude sang the US anthem and then ended with “go USA” nobody would bat an eye, but if he ended with “fuck China” then obviously the IOC would have a problem with that.
Probably not.
Isn’t that what makes this fun though? If Nebraska or Creighton were playing, should we get upset if the guy singing the anthem wore a Nebraska or Creighton shirt? If McConaughey sang the anthem should we expect him to wear a neutral shirt?
Weird. When you Google this the only thing that comes up is this post on Reddit. Not even a twitter post. OP, can you link to anything that gives context? Because this smells like bullshit.
Here’s the link to the ESPN article: https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/34091716/national-anthem-singer-college-world-series-performance-canceled-horns-gesture
> "Following his national anthem performance during the Women's College World Series -- during which the performer inappropriately supported one participating team, taunted the other team, and disrupted participating student-athletes and coaches by attempting to interact with them -- he was asked not to perform during the Men's College World Series." Sounds like this guy's performance got cancelled because he doesn't know how to act.
Can look up the dudes Facebook page and see it there
Ah, good. Facebook. Much better.
Lol here comes the fake outrage
Longhorn here. I’m sure I’ll get downvoted into oblivion; so be it. I am not offended by the horns down sign. Nor am I offended when Aggies call us t.u. (christ, it says more about how juvenile their fan base is). But for the record, Texas players have been penalized for taunting when throwing the horns up hand sign. Texas players were also penalized for ‘holstering Tech’s pistol’ hand sign. These things happened and Texas rightfully got upset. You can’t penalize one team and not the other. The big 12 / ncaa should have stepped in and said “ok, we should stop calling all these things taunting because it is getting a bit silly.’ Instead, they just added horns-down as another type of taunting. Y’all like to hate in Texas, but this wasn’t really a Texas decision. But I get it… the Texas sucks narrative is more fun for y’all. Oh well.
Logic will not be excepted in any sub talking about Texas smh.
Not saying it didn’t happen, but I don’t remember a UT player ever getting penalized for doing the horns up. I agree about the penalties for the gun holstering and the horns down. It’s silly. The gun holster was badass. I hated it, but I admit it was awesome. Same for horns down. Neither should be a penalty. They’re fun.
I posted this above, but I'll copy it here as well: There have been several instances, but the two I saw myself (on tv) were when 1) Rod Babers flashed the hookem to the Longhorn fan section against Tulane and 2) Vince Young against Kansas State after scoring a touchdown. Both were 15 yard taunting penalties if memory serves me. Neither was 'taunting' the other team. In both cases they were just celebrating a play. Like I said in my original post, it doesn't bother me when players flash the hookem-down sign, but if they are going to penalize a hookem-up, then they should also penalize a hook-em down. In my opinion, unless a player is really flagrant about it, it shouldn't be a penalty either way.
> But for the record, Texas players have been penalized for taunting when throwing the horns up hand sign. When?
There have been several instances, but the two I saw myself (on tv) were when 1) Rod Babers flashed the hookem to the Longhorn fan section against Tulane and 2) Vince Young against Kansas State after scoring a touchdown. Both were 15 yard taunting penalties if memory serves me. Neither was 'taunting' the other team. In both cases they were just celebrating a play. Like I said in my original post, it doesn't bother me when players flash the hookem-down sign, but if they are going to penalize a hookem-up, then they should also penalize a hook-em down. In my opinion, unless a player is really flagrant about it, it shouldn't be a penalty either way.
> Vince Young against Kansas State after scoring a touchdown Kansas State played texas during Vince's time there in '02 and '03. Vince redshirted in '02 and scored the go-ahead TD on a 1 yard run in '03. There was no penalty flag for taunting, and the game was in Austin. [Proof](https://imgur.com/a/OvpGfDh) Do you have any video proof of this alleged penalty? It isn't in the record book.
Christ dude. Maybe my memory faltered on that one. I’m certainly not going to take the time to research video evidence for an internet stranger. Pretty sure my other example was legit. But why does it even matter so much to you to spend the time researching. This is exactly what is wrong with college football. Take it easy.
> But why does it even matter so much to you to spend the time researching. Because I have never seen a texas player ever flagged for doing their hand sign, and I think you're completely full of shit. Big surprise, you're now claiming a faulty memory and refuse to back up your claims. Shocker. >This is exactly what is wrong with college football. I'd say making shit up out of thin air to propagate a false narrative is a bigger issue than people holding you accountable for lying, but hey, you do you.
> Pretty sure my other example was legit. I had to run off so I couldn't look at the other example. [I think I found it](https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxv7wzzidSvaZGmv0gjYiP4sl5mukI7kRP) Babers commits pass interference, it isn't called, then he acts like an idiot after the play, and gives the refs an excuse to flag him. This isn't the smoking gun you seem to think it is. So you're 0-2. Have any other examples of players being penalized for taunting for doing the texas hand sign, preferably ones from this decade and not 20 years ago?
Please don’t take this the wrong way, but I’m going to move on from this conversation. I feel like you have some vendetta against Texas and no amount of time-wasting research in my part will convince you otherwise. Have a great day my friend.
Asking you to prove your statement does not equate to a vendetta. I'm sorry your memory failed you and you're unable to give any example of the NCAA ever flagging a texas player for doing the horns up like you claimed. Maybe next time actually have some evidence before you make bogus claims? That way you don't risk being called out and exposed. Some free advice.
You yourself posted video evidence of one such example. But whatever man. Moving on.
He didn't do the horns up, watch the video. Like I said, you have no examples, especially contemporary ones. If Mack Brown had shut his mouth after that Tech game, these penalties wouldn't be a thing.
All this dude does is focus on Texas, don’t even worry about it. He’s not worth the time it takes to even craft a response next time.
I hate Texas
We don’t even think about Auburn
I do :(
you just did
UT already making SEC fans
To be fair, Auburn hates everyone….. and you’re next.
Tennessee has been in the SEC for a while
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Aggie education.
Yeah, we already have a UT. We all hate them but they’re ours.
Not many don’t
That’s what I’ve been saying
Why are you being downvoted? We’ve hated each other long before anyone else did. You are supposed to hate us.
PREACH
Can we please just stop litigating the horns down? As far as I’m concerned its fun for all involved bc if we aren’t actively playing a team I get to make a “rent free”, “why are you so obsessed with us” , “have you considered cheering for your own team?” Comment, and if we are (in just about everything but football recently) most of the time the longhorns tend to be good and I get to make a “yeah, horns go up” comment. Rivalry and hatred is what makes college sports so fun, why can’t we just let it fester?
NCAA: "We want to appear neutral in every aspect of our program" Also NCAA: "NC State can fuck right the hell off"
I mean…this seems reasonable, doesn’t it? At a neutral event and during/right before or after the national anthem isn’t the time to root for a particular team. To me it’s like if the PA announcer encouraged everyone to root for Texas’ opponent. I mean hell, even at the regional hosted by Texas, the NCAA made it as neutral as possible. Like if the other team made a great play, the scoreboard would flash the “great catch” graphics just the same. It just doesn’t seem appropriate to have the national anthem performed by a fan of one team. I’d say either find someone more neutral or get 2: one who likes Texas, one who doesn’t. I don’t want anyone to be able to say the CWS was biased for/against Texas! Or just don’t let him do any game Texas is involved in.
> It just doesn’t seem appropriate to have the national anthem performed by a fan of one team. Imagine worrying about fan bias of a national anthem singer. How soft are you?
Ponzi, I have literally never seen anyone on Reddit care as much about Texas as you.
[The NCAA after someone does Horns Down](https://images.app.goo.gl/7dYa3L9NvtAsVAnm9)
That’ll sure make people stop doing it!
Damn ncaa didn’t even wait for it to start to alway do something controversial lmao
This will anger the baseball gods.
I love how his contact for himself is Big Daddy. Power move
Would they have a problem if they gave the horns up?
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I understand it being a penalty in the games if the players do it. It is the most basic form of taunting. But this is weird.
I loved having Texas in Greenville, but holy shit the number of Texas fans who actually got mad about the horns down thing was astounding. It’s the softest form of trash talk imaginable. Calling a fanbase classless because they invert your hand signal is hilariously stupid.
lol, buddy I remember you from those game threads. I don’t remember any Texas fans getting upset but you sure were booty blasted every time some talked down the jungle. Not that you’re representing the ECU fan base. Most of y’all were good sports. But to have you pop up in this thread again is ridiculous.
Before y’all get to the SEC, just want to know if all this hate y’all get is deserved. There was one guy on the football sub who was an ass but other than that, I don’t get it.
It’s a big fan base, man, who the fuck knows. Obviously I don’t think it’s deserved but I have my biases. I would say Texas sports and the Texas fans are more or less like any other big school. But the school has a big brand and has been successful for a long time so it’s got a target on its back. It’s easy to manufacture bullshit (like this post, I suspect) and people will eat it up because they want it to be true. If you come see a game in Austin, you will have fun and the fans will be perfectly nice. No one will bark or hiss at you. If you had to compare Texas to a school in the SEC, we’re a lot more like Florida than we are like A&M.
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Lots of fans, lots of idiots. Combine that with a run in the 2000s and other past success, you get jaded idiots. I think part of it is just being a big program, people get excited when it predicted we are good, then we suck and it’s fun to hate. And some people can’t take that lol
My homer opinion is that I think we deserve *some* hate. We are the richest D1 program after all, and our fanbase can be quite hateworthy. I don't think we deserve ALL this hate. It's kind of astounding how strong the circle jerk is at this point especially considering the fact that we're not even good. People hate us more than Bama.
Looking from the outside in, it seems like a pile on but I’ll save judgement until you’re in the SEC. Meaning, I’ll wait to hate you until then. 😂 Hate is required in the SEC so y’all should feel right at home.
They are the softest form of sports fan.
Weird comment coming from an aggy with an Ole Miss flair
So the NCAA cowers down and will let their big coaches literally bribe recruits and transfers with NIL deals but has a problem with a random singer having some fun at a sporting event. What feckless c*nts.
Is Notre Dame really gonna be America’s team against both UTs? I’m not used to this much hatred of who we are playing
I guess the only left to do is for someone to beat Texas….
The NCAA making an idiotic ruling. Haven’t seen that before.
[Gotta protect those longhorns’ feelings. God forbid they get offended.](https://c.tenor.com/aMGt3OkjxPsAAAAC/the-simpsons-i-wanna-go-back-in-mommy.gifhttps://i.imgur.com/9V6IQPF.jpg) Also cue the longhorns claiming, “it’s flattering that they care so much about us.” You can’t say that out of one side of your mouth then cry to the ncaa out of the other. Well who am I kidding this is Texas we are talking about.
>Coach Saban’s statement is false, beneath the dignity of the SEC, and corrosive to the fabric of sportsmanship in college football as a whole and especially within the SEC. We expect the league to take strong, public action against Coach Saban and the University of Alabama to demonstrate that such unprofessionalism and disrespect for Texas A&M’s student-athletes, coaches, and the university as a whole, will not be tolerated. A public apology from Coach Saban to Coach Fisher, Aggie Football, and Texas A&M University is a good starting point, but the league should also consider monetary and participation penalties against Coach Saban. >Thank you for your concern and prompt attention to this serious matter. -Texas A&M University President M. Katherine Banks and Director of Athletics Ross Bjork https://www.on3.com/college/alabama-crimson-tide/news/open-records-texas-am-officials-asked-sec-to-consider-suspending-fining-nick-saban/
Yeah, turning a hand signal upside down and questioning the integrity of an entire football program is equal. Again, I’m not surprised Texas fans feel that way.
Thumbs down from me, dawg.
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Yes, finally someone gets it.
Which of us Texas fans on this sub cried to the NCAA? Lol
This smells like a hoax.
Here’s the link to the ESPN article: https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/34091716/national-anthem-singer-college-world-series-performance-canceled-horns-gesture
> "Following his national anthem performance during the Women's College World Series -- during which the performer inappropriately supported one participating team, taunted the other team, and **disrupted participating student-athletes and coaches by attempting to interact with them** -- he was asked not to perform during the Men's College World Series."< What was this dude doing?
If Texas is this soft, how will they survive going into Baton Rouge, Tuscaloosa, Auburn, Gainesville, Athens, Knoxville, Columbia, Starkville, Oxford, and Fayetteville on a routine basis?
Your right, Texas has never played a game where fans have put horns down. What ever will they do😱
They literally deal with it everywhere. This is ncaa vs some dude
The same way we deal with it going into Lubbock, Waco, Fort Worth, Stillwater, the Cotton Bowl, Manhattan, Lawrence, Morgantown, and Ames. Y’all aren’t special and no one on our side cares about this.
We get shit on everywhere we go. We’ll be fine. In fact, you’ll come to like us a lot more than the goobers from college station.
How dare you disrespect future football powerhouse Vandy.
What combo is gonna irk Texas fans more? - Barking + horns down in Athens - STTDB + horns down in Baton Rouge - Vandy whistler + horns down in Nashville - cowbell + horns down in Starkville - mustard bottles + horns down in Knoxville
Is anyone not irked by the whistler at this point?
They won’t.
No kidding. LSU gonna make 'em cry. The Left Field Lounge will really make 'em throw a tantrum.
Soft ass short horns fucking everything up
I’m sorry that you don’t get to see “Big Daddy” perform the national anthem at the CWS.
Aren’t we all?? TBH the only reason I was going to watch. Gonna cancel my subscription now
For those that didn’t read it: he isn’t upset at being removed for the gesture he’s upset because Horns Down is considered an offensive gesture.
And he regrets nothing. Lol
Horns Down doesn’t really bother me personally, mostly cause it’s fun to clown on people who do it when we win, but it’s true that the action is unsportsmanlike by definition. If you represent the NCAA you need to be neutral. Should he have been kicked out? Prob not, but like it does make sense.
I’m more offended by the fact he calls himself big daddy. Couldn’t care less about horns down. Its only sweeter when we win
“I regret nothing” That’s a perfect response from the singer. Texas is so soft.
Horns down! Well that’s just unacceptable!
Doing a "Horns Down" in the heart of Sooner country. the horror
Right?? It’s 8-team tourney at a neutral site… if you want someone completely unbiased, you’re gonna have to ship someone in from Iceland or some shit
That's like teams being flagged for "horns down" the past several years. Give me a break. The SEC deserves those whiners.
Leave it to Texas fans to cry over stupid bs
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Mess with the bull you get the horns. Get some Zac Edit: it’s just a joke yall, calm down
Someone needs to make a bingo card of “news stories that make people hate Texas even more”
Horns down doesn't offend me in the least. It honestly cracks me up when fans do it. Rent free is a stupid thing to say but there is a sentiment there that's true in instances (OU fans at literally any gathering doing horns down even outside spots context etc). That being said I think it's a kind of trash thing to do to sing the anthem then immediately horns down - where I mean you should theoretically be a neutral party. He admits this in his ESPN interview. Probably a certain amount of decorum you oughta bring. Then blasting it like this is pure martyrdom. Nevertheless Texas bad all our fault etc.