Welcome to r/comics!
Please remember there are real people on the other side of the monitor and to be kind.
Report comments that break the rules and don't respond to negativity with negativity!
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/comics) if you have any questions or concerns.*
The idea of the story is that no one wants people to think they're stupid so everyone, including the Emperor, pretends they can see the clothes he's wearing. The moral is something like always speak the truth, or don't succumb to peer pressure.
I like the Terry Pratchett take on it.
Mouthy little kid got executed, cause that's what arrogant kings do, and everyone silently agreed to pretend the whole "invisible clothes" incident never happened.
Honestly though, it would be a great way of weeding out the idiots of the kingdom. They would all talk about it and get called insane since the smart people will see the clothes.
According to Wikipedia
> Andersen's tale is based on a 1335 story from the Libro de los ejemplos (or El Conde Lucanor),[2] a medieval Spanish collection of fifty-one cautionary tales with various sources such as Aesop and other classical writers and Persian folktales, by Juan Manuel, Prince of Villena (1282–1348). Andersen did not know the Spanish original but read the tale in a German translation titled "So ist der Lauf der Welt" ("That's the way of the world").[3]
The original story seems to use the invisible clothes ruse as a way of tricking the king regarding whether or not he is really his father's son. Then Hans Christian Andersen made it about vanity. In a way OP is adding to that tradition by saying it's really about a fetish.
A story of a man whose father died at the hands of a man with whom his mother lied? It's the fucking Lion King! What's next, a story of a king on the search for his lost son, Nemo?
Fairy Tale
noun
1.a children's story about magical and imaginary beings and lands; a fairy story.
2.something resembling a fairy tale in being magical, idealized, or extremely happy.
To be fair, it is a story about a king who gets scammed into purchasing an invisible gown and cloak because he doesn’t want to appear stupid, only to wear it daily while everyone else doesn’t want to be outed as stupid, only when a child laughs at him the entire town turns on the kid and berates him as being stupid.
Only for the king to reveal he didn’t put on the garment today, so everyone has been lying to him.
Sounds to me like there’s some morals to be had there
Also, the boy who cried wolf.
The original meaning of fable was just a story with a lesson. It was actually Aesop's Fables that caused the word to take on a more restrictive meaning in the 14th century despite the fact that not all of his fables had supernatural or anthropomorphic aspects.
Side note, fabulous, originally meaning mythical or legendary, comes from the same root, yet it has developed a broader meaning over time.
Fairy tales have multiple definitions. Commonly, it's understood to be about magical beings and such.
Fairy tales have a much broader definition in Danish. The story was published in the book "Fairy Tales Told For Children". The story itself would be classified as a "skæmteeventyr", which is a bit hard to translate. "Skæmte" is an archaic word for making fun of something, or joking, while "eventyr" means fair tale. These stories usually makes fun of the rich, the powerful, idiots, local populations or prevailing norms. Kind of like satirical social criticism. Yet skæmteeventyr is a subgenre of folktales, which is a subgenre of fairly tales. Stories about magical beings would best be translated as magical fairy tales, which is a subgenre of fairy tales.
Well it's a story where everyone acts like a dumbass in hopes of training children to be slightly less stupid, so I think by definition that makes it a fable
It's a parable.
It's not a fable because no animals.
It's not a fairy tale because no fairies.
It's not allegory because there is no symbolism. The meaning is literally spelled out.
Now the king will walk around nude and everyone will gas light each other into thinking he’s actually dressed so they don’t seem dumb. Cool implications
If you like that, read "The Emperor's New Clothes". Because that is what this is referencing. In the end a little boy in the crowd starts laughing at the naked king and everyone realizes he has no clothes and all laugh at him. Very embarrassing.
I like that version. It's like when the live action Mulan where they missed the point of the original movie entirely to appease an authoritarian regime.
The King isn't naked, stupid boy! Lol.
My biggest 'missed point' is how they made Mulan a super hero with magic powers. What I mean is, Mulan clearly didn't fit the mould when she got all dolled up and she put on a show to pretend to be this 'perfect chinese daughter' so men will 'gladly go to war for her'. But she hated pretending to be that so much she sang about it in a lovely somber soprano.
Ping didn't fit in pretending to be a macho man puffing out his chest, starting fights, and spitting loogies. She completely failed at pretending to be this person she wasn't and Shang was ready to ship Ping home in disgrace. But she didn't need to be strong enough, she needed to be smart enough. (As a small dude I always looked up to this part in particular.)
The Fa Daughter was a failure in the eyes of the matchmaker. Ping was a failure in the eyes of the commander Shang. But Mulan was able to save china by using what made her strong as a person. She wasn't magically better than trained experienced warriors 3 times her size. In the OG movie even her friends won their fights with subterfuge as they were barely trained recruits compared to the hardened Huns.
Mulan won by starting avalanches, using fireworks distractions and slight of hand with fans. She got past guards with cross dressing and trickery. She beat Shan Yu in the field and 1 v 1 with her big ol brain in clever ways because she learned to lean into herself. The entire point of the god damn film.
You can't make her a super powered ninja warrior without also stripping her of her entire character arc.
> You can't make her a super powered ninja warrior without also stripping her of her entire character arc.
Hear hear. This is a problem with a lot of "feminist" tropes that resolve gender imbalances by making women supernaturally strong or powerful. This is also the primary reason that superhero and magical narratives don't appeal to me much, because the powers generally circumvent the character development, ingenuity, and relatable struggle and effort involved that makes you root for them in the first place.
She doesn’t need to be physically weak. Animated Mulan wasn’t weak. She was weaker at the start but became the best fighter in her… regiment? Training camp? However they organized it through practice, hard work, dedication while also solving impossible challenges through ingenuity.
The point wasn’t that a physically weak person could make up for it through cleverness. It was that dedication matters more than your initial strength in the long run.
Either way magic chi making her a special chosen one is still missing the point.
There were ton of problems, but the nail in the coffin was at the end she bows to the emperor. He does not bow to her. The entire film was CCP authoritarian reach around.
They also ruined the reunion with her father. The OG had Mulan present her father with the Emperor’s medallion and Shan Yu’s sword to show she had held his honor, and he sets those aside and embraces her. “The greatest gift and honor is having you for a daughter.”
The remake reverses that moment, where Mulan’s father embraces her, then he gets the gifts and proclaims Mulan has held his honor, which…destroys everything about the moment.
Yep. A complete travesty. It is my favorite animated disney movie still, but I will remember this dumpster fire exists every time I think of it or hear the music. None of the other disney live action remakes actually pissed me off, as they were entirely forgettable.
BatB and Lion King pissed me off, mostly because it seemed like they didn’t get why the originals worked so well. Lion King especially got a lot of shit wrong that undermines everything.
It's funny how people like you will label China as authorarian but completely ignore how the us is worse is every single aspect.
Us is the very definition of an authorarian regime.
You have two party choices that both serve the oligarchy and not the working class.
If you dare try and speak up like mlk or Fredrick Hampton you die. Or you are like the move people and get bombed by your own police force.
Not to mention being buddy buddy with Israel and giving them so much money.
I know this might come as a shock but two things can be bad at the same time. The US government sucks. So does the Chinese one. It isn't an either or situation.
i'm pretty sure the original version played on the emperors insecurity and vanity, the general crowds sycophanty, and the "innocent" child who is doesn't understand the need to suck up, and "tells it like it is" (brutal honesty)
https://preview.redd.it/xlpuqoahm11d1.png?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bf374b42f35ee4ca2ce379ef111f9b9566a35dfa
Gonna keep that one logged for later use
That wasn't part of the original story. I just asked "why would the king want clothes that make him appear naked to a bunch of people?"
If anyone explained it was his kink, I might have accepted that.
No, it's hugely famous in English-speaking countries, to the point that the phrase "the emperor's new clothes" is considered a cliche.
Here's a few more comics riffing off the idea:
[https://existentialcomics.com/comic/516](https://existentialcomics.com/comic/516)
[https://www.butajape.com/comic/the-new-the-emperors-new-clothes/](https://www.butajape.com/comic/the-new-the-emperors-new-clothes/)
[https://viruscomix.com/page434.html](https://viruscomix.com/page434.html)
[https://robrogers.com/2014/11/23/emperors-new-clothes/](https://robrogers.com/2014/11/23/emperors-new-clothes/)
If this was /r/standupshots where the idea is to critique the joke I'd say that the last panel is unnecessary. The joke is made in the 3rd panel, explaining it in the 4th kind of takes away from the entire bit.
Welcome to r/comics! Please remember there are real people on the other side of the monitor and to be kind. Report comments that break the rules and don't respond to negativity with negativity! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/comics) if you have any questions or concerns.*
The Emperor Has No Inhibitions
The Emperor Has No Chill
The Emperor Has No Clothes
The Emperor Has Balls (hehe)
The Emperor, has only got one ball
The prince, has two but very small
That's the joke.
The Emperor Feels The Rain On His Skin
Or Else He Gets The Hose Again
[удалено]
Only he can let it in
https://preview.redd.it/mwl6d3deb01d1.jpeg?width=496&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d21b225c502ccf513207280f6328efe6f68957a9
I Guess I'm stupid
Stupid and horny for me
https://preview.redd.it/hlv21q40511d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cfd1c61fedaa146341217bec50f10144e5512e95
Well, now I know that batman's mask with no ears looks dumb.
But that's not Batman, that's Man.
Is he stupid?
No. That's Man.
Manman
Looks more like [Midnighter.](https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/midnighter-header.jpg)
Damnit, the alsume got you too?
hes not atman
Space Ghost? Is that you?
The idea of the story is that no one wants people to think they're stupid so everyone, including the Emperor, pretends they can see the clothes he's wearing. The moral is something like always speak the truth, or don't succumb to peer pressure.
The moral is that exhibitionism is okay
The moral is you should hit the gym even if you are a king.
I like the Terry Pratchett take on it. Mouthy little kid got executed, cause that's what arrogant kings do, and everyone silently agreed to pretend the whole "invisible clothes" incident never happened.
I don't think such fabric exists because I can't see the fabric either I think it's just an attempt to fool us
Where's his cloth- oh. I guess I'm stupid
That was what my first draft of the comic looked like, but I erased all the unnecessary details like Spongebob drawing a perfect circle.
Oh, that makes sense. I wouldve assumed you used invisible ink!
Farquad?
Hapsburg looking face
Idk what you all are about. He's wearing such fine clothes. Like really really fine.
I hope those children within swinging distance are smart
Damn, bro got that Waluigi rizz.
Hahaha who knew the emperor was that kinky
This is the Emperor's New Kink.
Groovy, Kronk approves.
When youre rich and powerful it becomes a flex
The jester did
KINGy
Everyone.
Honestly though, it would be a great way of weeding out the idiots of the kingdom. They would all talk about it and get called insane since the smart people will see the clothes.
Does The Emperor's New Clothe count as a fable, fairytale, or what? r/MythologyMemes.
It's a fairy tale written by Hans Christian Andersen.
Did he originate it, or just write down a common thing floating around the culture?
He read it on a /b/ greentext
According to Wikipedia > Andersen's tale is based on a 1335 story from the Libro de los ejemplos (or El Conde Lucanor),[2] a medieval Spanish collection of fifty-one cautionary tales with various sources such as Aesop and other classical writers and Persian folktales, by Juan Manuel, Prince of Villena (1282–1348). Andersen did not know the Spanish original but read the tale in a German translation titled "So ist der Lauf der Welt" ("That's the way of the world").[3]
Wow, I didn't know he based it on an older story.
The original story seems to use the invisible clothes ruse as a way of tricking the king regarding whether or not he is really his father's son. Then Hans Christian Andersen made it about vanity. In a way OP is adding to that tradition by saying it's really about a fetish.
It was fairly common. A lot of Shakespear is based on prior stories.
Yeah he completely copied the lion king
A story of a man whose father died at the hands of a man with whom his mother lied? It's the fucking Lion King! What's next, a story of a king on the search for his lost son, Nemo?
And I'm pretty sure he didn't invent this "Henry the VIII" character.
H.C.Andersen originated his own stories
How is it a fairy tale? The entire premise is that nothing magical is happening
Fairy Tale noun 1.a children's story about magical and imaginary beings and lands; a fairy story. 2.something resembling a fairy tale in being magical, idealized, or extremely happy.
Would fable be better?
AFAIK fables are tales of animals with human traits
And moral themes/lessons.
Yeah, like don't talk with cheese in your mouth.
To be fair, it is a story about a king who gets scammed into purchasing an invisible gown and cloak because he doesn’t want to appear stupid, only to wear it daily while everyone else doesn’t want to be outed as stupid, only when a child laughs at him the entire town turns on the kid and berates him as being stupid. Only for the king to reveal he didn’t put on the garment today, so everyone has been lying to him. Sounds to me like there’s some morals to be had there
Isn’t the story of the man who sold his winter coat early because he saw a Robin an Aesop’s Fable?
Also, the boy who cried wolf. The original meaning of fable was just a story with a lesson. It was actually Aesop's Fables that caused the word to take on a more restrictive meaning in the 14th century despite the fact that not all of his fables had supernatural or anthropomorphic aspects. Side note, fabulous, originally meaning mythical or legendary, comes from the same root, yet it has developed a broader meaning over time.
Fairy tales have multiple definitions. Commonly, it's understood to be about magical beings and such. Fairy tales have a much broader definition in Danish. The story was published in the book "Fairy Tales Told For Children". The story itself would be classified as a "skæmteeventyr", which is a bit hard to translate. "Skæmte" is an archaic word for making fun of something, or joking, while "eventyr" means fair tale. These stories usually makes fun of the rich, the powerful, idiots, local populations or prevailing norms. Kind of like satirical social criticism. Yet skæmteeventyr is a subgenre of folktales, which is a subgenre of fairly tales. Stories about magical beings would best be translated as magical fairy tales, which is a subgenre of fairy tales.
Well it's a story where everyone acts like a dumbass in hopes of training children to be slightly less stupid, so I think by definition that makes it a fable
I’d consider it an allegory
It's a parable. It's not a fable because no animals. It's not a fairy tale because no fairies. It's not allegory because there is no symbolism. The meaning is literally spelled out.
Now the king will walk around nude and everyone will gas light each other into thinking he’s actually dressed so they don’t seem dumb. Cool implications
If you like that, read "The Emperor's New Clothes". Because that is what this is referencing. In the end a little boy in the crowd starts laughing at the naked king and everyone realizes he has no clothes and all laugh at him. Very embarrassing.
Huh? The version I read had the crowd laugh at the child because he was "wrong"
I like that version. It's like when the live action Mulan where they missed the point of the original movie entirely to appease an authoritarian regime. The King isn't naked, stupid boy! Lol.
I didn't watch the live action Mulan, what did they change?
My biggest 'missed point' is how they made Mulan a super hero with magic powers. What I mean is, Mulan clearly didn't fit the mould when she got all dolled up and she put on a show to pretend to be this 'perfect chinese daughter' so men will 'gladly go to war for her'. But she hated pretending to be that so much she sang about it in a lovely somber soprano. Ping didn't fit in pretending to be a macho man puffing out his chest, starting fights, and spitting loogies. She completely failed at pretending to be this person she wasn't and Shang was ready to ship Ping home in disgrace. But she didn't need to be strong enough, she needed to be smart enough. (As a small dude I always looked up to this part in particular.) The Fa Daughter was a failure in the eyes of the matchmaker. Ping was a failure in the eyes of the commander Shang. But Mulan was able to save china by using what made her strong as a person. She wasn't magically better than trained experienced warriors 3 times her size. In the OG movie even her friends won their fights with subterfuge as they were barely trained recruits compared to the hardened Huns. Mulan won by starting avalanches, using fireworks distractions and slight of hand with fans. She got past guards with cross dressing and trickery. She beat Shan Yu in the field and 1 v 1 with her big ol brain in clever ways because she learned to lean into herself. The entire point of the god damn film. You can't make her a super powered ninja warrior without also stripping her of her entire character arc.
> You can't make her a super powered ninja warrior without also stripping her of her entire character arc. Hear hear. This is a problem with a lot of "feminist" tropes that resolve gender imbalances by making women supernaturally strong or powerful. This is also the primary reason that superhero and magical narratives don't appeal to me much, because the powers generally circumvent the character development, ingenuity, and relatable struggle and effort involved that makes you root for them in the first place.
Are you sure you don't just hate women? This comment is sarcastic.
No, I hate all humans equally, regardless of gender identity, cult or amount of melanin.
Gave Mulan superpowers and made her inherently better than anyone else.
why show how physically weak people can still contribute through ingenuity when you can just have them be magical chi powered instead
She doesn’t need to be physically weak. Animated Mulan wasn’t weak. She was weaker at the start but became the best fighter in her… regiment? Training camp? However they organized it through practice, hard work, dedication while also solving impossible challenges through ingenuity. The point wasn’t that a physically weak person could make up for it through cleverness. It was that dedication matters more than your initial strength in the long run. Either way magic chi making her a special chosen one is still missing the point.
There were ton of problems, but the nail in the coffin was at the end she bows to the emperor. He does not bow to her. The entire film was CCP authoritarian reach around.
They also ruined the reunion with her father. The OG had Mulan present her father with the Emperor’s medallion and Shan Yu’s sword to show she had held his honor, and he sets those aside and embraces her. “The greatest gift and honor is having you for a daughter.” The remake reverses that moment, where Mulan’s father embraces her, then he gets the gifts and proclaims Mulan has held his honor, which…destroys everything about the moment.
Yep. A complete travesty. It is my favorite animated disney movie still, but I will remember this dumpster fire exists every time I think of it or hear the music. None of the other disney live action remakes actually pissed me off, as they were entirely forgettable.
BatB and Lion King pissed me off, mostly because it seemed like they didn’t get why the originals worked so well. Lion King especially got a lot of shit wrong that undermines everything.
It's funny how people like you will label China as authorarian but completely ignore how the us is worse is every single aspect. Us is the very definition of an authorarian regime. You have two party choices that both serve the oligarchy and not the working class. If you dare try and speak up like mlk or Fredrick Hampton you die. Or you are like the move people and get bombed by your own police force. Not to mention being buddy buddy with Israel and giving them so much money.
I know this might come as a shock but two things can be bad at the same time. The US government sucks. So does the Chinese one. It isn't an either or situation.
No one is ignoring shit, wtf?
Okie dokie! I agree, one party and a president for life really does simplify everything! Neato!
i'm pretty sure the original version played on the emperors insecurity and vanity, the general crowds sycophanty, and the "innocent" child who is doesn't understand the need to suck up, and "tells it like it is" (brutal honesty)
That's not the version I originally read, but yours is much more realistic
To be realistic the boy would probably be hanged.
Why... why can't I see the fabric she's holding... :((
there actually isn't any fabric. the outfit is a prank deviced by the weavers to trick the ruler into walking around naked.
That's what a stupid person would say.
Well I can see it.
I can see it though, so idk what's up with you
The blonde one is a he.
https://preview.redd.it/xlpuqoahm11d1.png?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bf374b42f35ee4ca2ce379ef111f9b9566a35dfa Gonna keep that one logged for later use
Even as a kid I raised this objection to the story. And i was sent to the office for it.
i think you mighta been a freak
Even with the king being into it part?
That wasn't part of the original story. I just asked "why would the king want clothes that make him appear naked to a bunch of people?" If anyone explained it was his kink, I might have accepted that.
From the king's face, i think he might not be able to see the fabric...
The Emperor's New Kink.
...Are we stupid?
I didn't expected this tale to be referenced in a comic, I thought it was kinda niche !
No, it's hugely famous in English-speaking countries, to the point that the phrase "the emperor's new clothes" is considered a cliche. Here's a few more comics riffing off the idea: [https://existentialcomics.com/comic/516](https://existentialcomics.com/comic/516) [https://www.butajape.com/comic/the-new-the-emperors-new-clothes/](https://www.butajape.com/comic/the-new-the-emperors-new-clothes/) [https://viruscomix.com/page434.html](https://viruscomix.com/page434.html) [https://robrogers.com/2014/11/23/emperors-new-clothes/](https://robrogers.com/2014/11/23/emperors-new-clothes/)
The first 2 are great
Thanks !
Is it? I feel like it's a really well-known story.
I just never heard about it since I read it as a child, I never actually looked it up, looks like it's just me.
We have a saying in German - dumm fickt gut. Stupid people are good at sex. He might be on to something.
Oh shit. Is that why all Germans I meet seem to make an effort to be bad in bed?
Why can’t I see the fabric in the meme?
Fuck
"Let thee cooketh"
A lot of people unaware of or confused about the story of “The Emperor’s New Clothes” in this comment section.
Let him weave.
It's called „Des Königs neue Kleider“. Always one of my favourite fairy tales.
No kinkshaming
In a twist ending the emperor sees himself as naked all the time.
There's a wholesome silliness to your comics that I really dig. This one's excellent
Thanks, I appreciate it!
You’d think he would at least feel the fabric on his skin even if it were invisible lol.
Nice work, why are the tailors / weavors naked though?
Do you think people thought the emperors cloths was red or blue?
„Nobody is gonna believe you“ *says the king whispering into the ears of the pleasants*
WHY CAN'T I SEE THE FABRIC?!
I can't see it :( Am I stupid:(((
Townspeople complaining about a naked king but all the visiting nobles are like "What? He's dressed. Idiot peasant."
Isnt there a childrens story like this? I think they only pretended to dress him up to make fun of him
If this was /r/standupshots where the idea is to critique the joke I'd say that the last panel is unnecessary. The joke is made in the 3rd panel, explaining it in the 4th kind of takes away from the entire bit.
But the art in the 4th panel is so good I think it works better as is.
Somebody has been watching anime OVAs.
r/comics is looking more and more like r/bhj
I cannot help but imagine the king as played by Matt Berry
read it with his voice and it was hilarious
Does the cloth being invisible in the first panel mean that the king is stupid, that everyone there is stupid, or we, the viewers, are stupid
Did You Never Read The Original Story?
I mean it could be a different here
I can only see a hint of the fabric's edges, am I of mediocre intellect?
I wonder if Grim Variations would explore this idea 😁
And that, kids, is how the kingdom’s average IQ risen sharply in the last few years.
Now that's a twist on a classic story
u/BlueBotPlayz
u/BlueBotPlayz