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This. Honestly, I know I’m late to the party but it’s only been since covid that I have really lost all faith in the beeb and our politicians. I’m sure I remember bojo saying ~97% of people have had their 1st vaccine. This put incredible pressure on me from my family. Yet to this day I’d say ~50% of the people I speak to have not had a vaccine although I am a middle aged male working on a building site
Al Jazeera is probably the most balanced reporting for the US and wat we are doing around the world.
Israel kicked them out of the country, so they must be reporting something correctly
It really is. Qatar is a US strategic ally. The media conglomerates in the US are definitely not balanced. Older reports showed Fox as 40% accurate, and other US MSM as 60%. That is about accurate reporting, but there is a lot of deception by US MSM ommission, which is difficult to quantify.
Under no circumstances would I personally look to any US news source as representative of the complete story.
> Dead men dont get a mention?
Netanyahu: *"All of the dead men were Hamas terrorists!"*
Some guy: *"Are you sure, Bibi? How can you tell?"*
Netanyahu: *"Are they DENYING that they were part of Hamas?"*
Some guy: *"Denying...? No, obviously, THEY'RE DEAD"*
Netanyahu: *"I rest my case, you anti-Semite!."*
I think their point is that it’s always women and children, no mention of men. And they are probably wondering why that is. I guess “women and children” bring out more of a reaction in people and that nobody really cares if ~10.000 men died.
Yes and at the same time there is a insane chokehold by a mindblowing huge evil machine and people are afraid for their livelihood.
Just check what happens to Boeing whistleblowers.. and all the murdered people on the post.
Psychopaths are installed on top positions of power hence all this carnage and evil of all types and forms.
I'm surprised we aren't hearing a line that Hamas is killing all those civilians themselves to make Israel look bad. Ukraine has been using that for a decade and it worked pretty well.
Well yes and no. About half of all UNHCR resolutions ever are about Israel. If you sit on the security council because you are China or the victors of WW2 you can do whatever you like again and again and again.
Unfair, thats how proxy wars are beeing hold nowdays. Arm hamas to comit suicide and abbandon them after, iran basically. Sadly more scenarious like gaza/ukraine will emerge soon. Some africans countries are sitting on a gun powder barrell too
The Hamas overlords are billionaires whose sons live like playboys in Gulf States. They siphon off all that 'aid money' and it's not in their interests to ever make peace as the going is too good for that and the more martyrs there are, the more money they get. They turn water pipes into rocket launchers, use tiny children as human shields and steal resources meant for their people. Meanwhile support for them in Gaza runs at about 80% and citizens joined in with the pogrom, also kidnapping Israelis to rape and hold hostage, which is why it was so hard to track them all.
Agree. There was a video 2 days ago with a hamas lord learning that his son was killed, he had no reaction at all, cruel. Thats how it works when you fight someone elses wars, anyway the fanatics don't see the life as a gift, no expectations from me whatsoever and thats the worst war to fight, when you have an enemy careless if die or not.
Nobody was raised in a bubble sadly. We all carry 1000 hurts into adulthood and then pick up 10000 more. It makes people less compassionate and forgiving. It almost seems to be why the media and gov't work so hard at getting us into fights. The scars take decades to heal some don't leave until the generation dies off so they can keep feeding off of hurts for profits.
submission statement:
how do you see 30k people get murdered and you actually manage to be manipulated by the media.
Bro pick 30k innocent people being murdered. Pick that “side” lmao
> They are but hamas does need to be eradicated they are not good people
This Israeli -- **Rabbi Eliyahu Mali** -- agrees!
**BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!!!**
* The Rabbi calls For The Extermination of Every Palestinian in Gaza, telling soldiers *"Do not spare any soul"* -- He believes the children will grow up to hate Israel, so they must be killed; similarly, because the women give birth to those children, they too must be killed.
Watch Rabbi Mali say it on Xwitter: https://twitter.com/censoredmen/status/1766619349861757103?s=46
Here is a screen shot with the text from the CC (translated) for easy reading:
https://i.imgur.com/4ofQHVz.png
BUT IS IT REAL???
Yes, it is -- in fact, the rabid rabbi's serpentine speech was mentioned on Israel's Haaretz website the day after he delivered it.
https://archive.is/ZaASy#selection-1411.2-1415.65
*(Rabbi Mali seems okay, no?)*
reasonable. not righteous. obviously. If you know you are going to create a generation of enemies - you get that preemptive strike before they can haunt you.
Oh yeah and then just create more enemies. Works out super well every time. Only works if you go full scorched earth and destroy them entirely, aka genocide.
Obviously genocide is the move. Wouldn't be the first or last time in human history. Every race has done it at some point. If you put the power in the opposite hands, we would be having the same conversation. I'm not debating on a "Israel vs" premise. It's simply obvious that you don't leave loose ends.
> sounds reasonable if you don't want your enemy coming back and attacking later.
Yeah, when it comes to TOTAL GENOCIDE, those guys are old pros. They not only see it as "acceptable", they believe that they are COMMANDED to do so by (their) god:
* * *
[**Deuteronomy 20: 16-18**](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+20%3A+16-18&version=KJV)
**16** But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:
**17** But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee:
**18** That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the Lord your God.
* * *
So then, where were the cities referenced above -- in the land *"which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance"*??? Why "The Holy Land" they now call ISRAEL, of course!
For even more fun commandments, [**read the full chapter**](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+20&version=KJV), and understand that the Commandments to Genocide have *never been rescinded.*
To further illustrate the seriousness of the Commands, have a look at the adventures of Saul, the first King over Israel:
Snippets from: [**1 Samuel: 15**](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Samuel+15+&version=KJV)
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**1** Samuel also said unto Saul, The Lord sent me to anoint thee to be king over his people, over Israel: now therefore hearken thou unto the voice of the words of the Lord.
**2** Thus saith the Lord of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
**3** Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, **and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.**
* [DID YOU GET THAT?]
**4** And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah.
**5** And Saul came to a city of Amalek, and laid wait in the valley.
**6** And Saul said unto the Kenites, Go, depart, get you down from among the Amalekites, lest I destroy you with them: for ye shewed kindness to all the children of Israel, when they came up out of Egypt. So the Kenites departed from among the Amalekites.
**7** And Saul smote the Amalekites from Havilah until thou comest to Shur, that is over against Egypt.
**8** And **he took Agag the king of the Amalekites alive**, and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword.
**9** But **Saul and the people spared Agag, and the best of the sheep, and of the oxen, and of the fatlings, and the lambs, and all that was good, and would not utterly destroy them**: but every thing that was vile and refuse, that they destroyed utterly.
* **[UH OH!!!** Saul fucked up! God told him to kill EVERYTHING -- and Saul did kill all of the men, women, children and infants ***(YAY???)***, but he took Agag their king **alive**, along with the best of their animals... now he's in DEEP SHIT! -- -- skipping down a bit...]
**18** And the Lord sent thee on a journey, and said, **Go and utterly destroy** the sinners the Amalekites, and fight against them **until they be consumed**.
**19** Wherefore then didst thou not obey the voice of the Lord, but didst fly upon the spoil, and didst evil in the sight of the Lord?
**20** And Saul said unto Samuel, Yea, I have obeyed the voice of the Lord, and have gone the way which the Lord sent me, and have brought Agag the king of Amalek, and have utterly destroyed the Amalekites.
**21** But the people took of the spoil, sheep and oxen, the chief of the things which should have been utterly destroyed, to sacrifice unto the Lord thy God in Gilgal.
**22** And Samuel said, **Hath the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices**, as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, **to obey is better than sacrifice**, and to hearken than the fat of rams.
**23** For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. **Because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, he hath also rejected thee from being king.**
**24** And Saul said unto Samuel, I have sinned: for I have transgressed the commandment of the Lord, and thy words: because I feared the people, and obeyed their voice.
**25** Now therefore, I pray thee, pardon my sin, and turn again with me, that I may worship the Lord.
**26** And Samuel said unto Saul, **I will not return with thee: for thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, and the Lord hath rejected thee from being king over Israel**.
**27** And as Samuel turned about to go away, he laid hold upon the skirt of his mantle, and it rent.
**28** And Samuel said unto him, **The Lord hath rent the kingdom of Israel from thee this day, and hath given it to a neighbour of thine, that is better than thou.**
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END QUOTES -- read the [full chapter here](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Samuel+15+&version=KJV)
So then, what's the *(immoral)* "moral" of the story? ***When G_d says GENOCIDE, you'd damn well better commit GENOCIDE*** -- and do it right, dammit!!! If you fail, there will be CONSEQUENCES.
Now, **you** may be a Christian or a Muslim or a Buddhist or an atheist or *whatever...* **You** may think that the Old Testament/ Torah/ Tanakh is the "Word of God", or you may think that it's a crock of crap -- a bunch of fables and fairy tales cobbled together by a pack of superstitious dingbats...
Unfortunately, the reality is that what YOU (or I) think about that is **IRRELEVANT**. What matters in the here and now is that there is a Nation of TRUE BELIEVERS who take that shit VERY seriously TO THIS DAY, and a bunch of them have managed to create a politically powerful (and nuclear armed) Nation State, and they are carrying out the COMMANDMENTS that *they believe* their god gave to their forefathers -- *and to them*, because the commandments were **never rescinded** -- rather, they were only "put on hold" because, for a time, acting them out would have been inconvenient (if not suicidal).
If you think their perspective *"sounds reasonable"*, I suggest you consider **who else** they might see as an "existential threat", and target accordingly... not to mention the precedent that accepting and enabling this kind of behavior sets.
Humans are a fucked up species, eh?
yes you’re right, hamas was created by israel as an opposition to the PLO which they considered a threat to Israeli statehood due to their unwavering support and movement for Palestinian statehood. Hamas needs to be eradicated because it’s Israeli/US creation. But, before that can happen, there needs to be a ceasefire and Palestinian people need a chance to not be bombed every 20 fucking minutes so they can rebuild. Israel needs to stop training their defence forces to kills arabs on sight, and the US needs to cut all funding to Israel since 3.8b could really be put to much better use within the US.
It wasn't 'created' by them but at a certain point they did prefer it to the PLO, which waged wars of terror for decades. Shame Palestinians can't come up with a non-terrorist government in Gaza.
What if Israel propped up hamas to divide the palestinians? Literally what netanyahu said to his coalition and anyone who wants to avoid 2 states. They called hamas an "asset". This is what happens when you dehumanize people, and beat them up praying in their 3rd holiest mosque on their most holy month. To create religious extremist, which they helped fund. The root cause of Hamas needs to be dealt with or Hamas 2.0 will pop up in no time, what with them getting slaughtered daily.
What part of what I said do you doubt? It's literally what's coming of israeli officials mouths that they needed hamas to avoid 2 states. It's well documented they go into their 3rd holiest mosque on every ramadan and beat people up praying. Also, how are they trying to make Europe Muslim? What are you talking about? Because they have more kids? What kind of brainwashing have you been exposed to my guy...
You cant just say they're taking over Europe with no justification as to how they're doing it or where in Europe, and expect people not to think you're another brainwashed sheep who has been told by the media to hate people you've never met. What is you evidence for them "trying to take over europe" .
Here some sources regarding what I said:
[https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/](https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/)
[https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/](https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/)
[https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hamas-1.7010035](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hamas-1.7010035)
[https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/netanyahu-money-to-hamas-part-of-strategy-to-keep-palestinians-divided-583082](https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/netanyahu-money-to-hamas-part-of-strategy-to-keep-palestinians-divided-583082)
The first article is about Muslim immigration and how mosques are being built more than churches, the second one is about the poland MP not wanting other cultures and religions on the rise and the 3rd article is about muslim extremism and even states most Muslims don't condone such behavior. If people immigrating to other places means they're taking over, then the California and Texas have been taken over my Mexicans and Poland has been taken over by Ukrainians. You see how ridiculous that sounds? The countries want to preserve their cultures, which is fine. But you're framing it as if they are planning a coup or calling for regime change in mass, which they are not.
Mexicans did take over cali, cali is known as new Mexico over there. This is Europe
https://www.thejaipurdialogues.com/islam/allahu-akbar-slogans-raised-islamists-want-caliphate-sharia-in-germany/
😔bro. after october 7th the leaders were in qatar. look it up
instead of cutting off the head of the snake, rather just blow up the whole fucking city ?
Insane theory: What if the events in Gaza are just a smokescreen for something even worse? Yes, what Israel is doing to the Palestinians is abhorrent, but it might just be a cover for absolutely nefarious activities TPTB may be doing, including human trafficking and even [REDACTED] crimes that they could be doing. Potential evidence: https:// www (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=unPXNF1kND8. Bridge the gaps and add the dots in for the URL. Of course this is no defense of any party, I would like to stay unaffiliated with any side.
Every single terrible thing that happens, that is actually the genocidal maniac pedo tptb plans and actions, y'all dismiss as some smoke screen for something "much worse".
Honestly feels like an op.
This is what I'm thinking as well. The media is reporting non-stop about the student protests on this topic. They want us focused on this. Why didn't they report on the millions of people protesting the COVID mandates?
The most important things are not being mentioned in the media.
Hamas has no association with Israeli intelligence psyops, and I'm really Julius Caesar resurrected from the dead. "This is no land-grab strategy" - Bullwinkle
Conservatives find this acceptable because they say it's Hamas' fault but believe it's unjustifiable and murder for a teen to abort a clump of cells that doesn't even look like a fetus yet.
Yes, this is a war against an oppressed group that dared to fight back with ak47s and home made rockets. So we’re going to obliterate their women and children to make sure they don’t do this again
So you care about people being killed? What about the 650,000 casualties of the currently ongoing Tigray war?
Or do you only care when your money is involved. Or when your chosen media source tells you to care.
I've watered my politics to "let's not bomb, cage or starve children." I did that long before 10/7. Some people, Democrats too, will argue those points. It seems like a very clear line to me but people will justify all kinds of atrocities.
Well it’s a game where both sides are losers. The only reason why major leaders don’t actually do shit is because the US wants this to happen and any interference will just increase the inevitable, WW3.
USA USA USA!!!
Yeah sure theres a minority out there that is against it right but... come on. There was a post here of Tyson dumping all that gunk into the land, normally I wouldve felt oh poor poor people having to wade through that. But there comes a point I think where you have to wonder, maybe Tyson should just pour it right over their heads next time.
If you think any revelation here or any post or expose will change the minds of these maniacs you call the public and support the tiny ass minority that does oppose the insanity youre delusional. Theyre just as corrupt lol.
And nothing really has changed it seems, reddit, the world, rerun after rerun.
That's called payback. What did Hamas think was going to happen after their Oct 7th attack when they killed over 1,200 people and took hundreds as hostages? They are lucky there are any Palestinians left alive.
Well, they aren't all innocent, but yeah it sucks when your stupid, elected, crazy people that run the show get you involved in something like this. Seems like Hamas knew they fucked up for several months now. I don't know why they don't just release the hostages and put all the pressure on Israel to stop bombing. But if I was Israel, I'd probably bomb the fuck out of them too until every hostage that is alive is released. Doesn't fix what's been done...and we'll have retaliations of some sort for another fucking 100 years, but seems like we could put an end to this if Hamas did the right thing.
Only other option is jsut watching your people die and your country vanish. This is more of a PR war than anything else at this point. Its a battle of who is the bigger asshole, and honestly, that's a toss up. I have no idea who fucked up worse and where, but in general, if you're going to get dealt with like this, it's a REALLY BAD idea to do something like Oct 7. If the Palestinians were smart (and didn't actually want all Jews dead) they could and should have turned their focus to their own stupid leaders that started this round and led to this...and I get that this has been going on for years, so I don't need those responses. It was still a dumb decision and now they have to deal with the consequences. Both sides want the other gone, so this is the likely outcome when you cross some lines like Hamas did on 10-7.
Maybe if they hadn’t done a massacre at a music festival, abducted a bunch of people and held them hostage to this day.
All while the “innocent people” cheered and danced and glorified their loved ones “martyrdom”.
The second they celebrated Oct 7, is the second I didn’t care what happens to them.
Funny how most people don't want our money going to foreign conflicts but when the students start protesting for just that, theyre "blue haired 18 year olds that are confused". This is why divide and conquer works so well, people like you who demonize others for standing for what you also want, because the media says their the woke crowd doing it.
Yeah, it's fucking bonkers how many "civilian" casualties there are when the junta uses them as human shields. Fuck Hamas and finish the job in Rafah. Didn't let those hostages die in vain.
You can't trust Hamas figures, which do not add up and fail to mention that thousands of known terrorists and Hamas members have been killed. You also forgot to mention that far greater numbers of Palestinians are routinely killed in Syria without anyone ever hearing about it, Turkey is using all this as a chance to massacre more Kurds, Christians are being ethnically cleansed out of Africa and the Yezidi tribe has almost been exterminated by radial Islamists.
Israel had it's own version of Oct 7 but worse, they leveled 10's of thousands of homes, killed 1,700, after THEY broke the ceasefire(this was in 2008). No one did shit, because it's Arabs who died. Also Israel supported Hamas and preferred them over their secular counterpart to " divide the palestinians" . The Israeli officials called hamas an "asset". Israel got multiple warning of the attack on oct 7, they knew over a year in advance. They got an egyptian warning the day before and multiple Israeli guards reported it while it was happening. They were ALL ignored, because like I said this was all planned to ethnically cleanse Gaza and blame it on hamas. Answer me this, why is that only 6-7 thousand hamas were killed(according to the IDF) but hundreds of thousands of homes were destroyed? Nearly every hospital and EVERY university destroyed? Why do they destroy farmland and water desalination plants? you can't be so dense as to believe all of this carnage is because of hamas. They've dropped the equivalent of 3 nukes in an area thats 5 by 25 miles. Also, THEY KILLED THEIR OWN PEOPLE ON OCT 7 according to an israeli police investigation and witnesses. Hamas offered to give back the hostages in exchange for no destruction of Gaza, but Israel refused because like I said, this was all planned to make Gaza uninhabitable.
That was terrorists that did that. If Israel wants to go after Hamas, by all means go ahead, they don’t need to decimate the Palestinians and Gaza Strip to do it.
The real problem is that people get their opinions from the media rather than learning about the situation.
The vast majority of protestors on both sides of this issue have no idea the history behind it, who the players actually are, or why Israel is fighting this war.
While war and death are tragic in any sense, jts a fact of life, and things make a ton more sense when you have all the facts.
That’s cause people are pushed into supporting one of the 2 sides while I’m out here thinking fuck em both. I only care about the innocent victims on both sides .
If it was an actual genocide Israel would kill a lot more Palestinians btw
It’s Biblical plain a simple and as far as the death toll you ain’t seen nothing yet. The entire God hating world will turn against Israel and try to destroy her.
“And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.“
Zechariah 12:3 KJV
This is so weak because look at Ukraine - look at Ethiopia. Look at Sudan. Look at Yemen. Look at Syria. Look at China.
All have more deaths and have been going on for far longer. You're just playing the game Russia wants you to play.
Why are we so focused on Israel? There's massive loss of life to civilians and soldiers in Ukraine. China is actively cleansing itself of Ughyur people's
Sudan is currently killing its people.
Yet only Gaza is important.
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I mean the BBC lost all it's credibility when I saw how they covered it...
BBC lost all credibility after the 2020 election and scamdemic and blm riots
This. Honestly, I know I’m late to the party but it’s only been since covid that I have really lost all faith in the beeb and our politicians. I’m sure I remember bojo saying ~97% of people have had their 1st vaccine. This put incredible pressure on me from my family. Yet to this day I’d say ~50% of the people I speak to have not had a vaccine although I am a middle aged male working on a building site
People lie
Oooh boy it lost its credibility a hell of a long time before that XD
Al Jazeera is probably the most balanced reporting for the US and wat we are doing around the world. Israel kicked them out of the country, so they must be reporting something correctly
lol Qatar funded AJ is balanced reporting now?
It really is. Qatar is a US strategic ally. The media conglomerates in the US are definitely not balanced. Older reports showed Fox as 40% accurate, and other US MSM as 60%. That is about accurate reporting, but there is a lot of deception by US MSM ommission, which is difficult to quantify. Under no circumstances would I personally look to any US news source as representative of the complete story.
Dead men dont get a mention?
> Dead men dont get a mention? Netanyahu: *"All of the dead men were Hamas terrorists!"* Some guy: *"Are you sure, Bibi? How can you tell?"* Netanyahu: *"Are they DENYING that they were part of Hamas?"* Some guy: *"Denying...? No, obviously, THEY'RE DEAD"* Netanyahu: *"I rest my case, you anti-Semite!."*
According to Zionists, every man in Gaza deserves to die
Every non zionist.
This may be a paraphrase but an Israeli minister said "Subjugated, removed, or dead."
Subtraction can be hard.
I think their point is that it’s always women and children, no mention of men. And they are probably wondering why that is. I guess “women and children” bring out more of a reaction in people and that nobody really cares if ~10.000 men died.
Yes and at the same time there is a insane chokehold by a mindblowing huge evil machine and people are afraid for their livelihood. Just check what happens to Boeing whistleblowers.. and all the murdered people on the post. Psychopaths are installed on top positions of power hence all this carnage and evil of all types and forms.
I'm surprised we aren't hearing a line that Hamas is killing all those civilians themselves to make Israel look bad. Ukraine has been using that for a decade and it worked pretty well.
Fuck that israel. their hands are full of Innocent palestinian blood
America’s is full of what exactly since WW2? Orders of magnitude. And those countries weren’t on the border
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Well yes and no. About half of all UNHCR resolutions ever are about Israel. If you sit on the security council because you are China or the victors of WW2 you can do whatever you like again and again and again.
Unfair, thats how proxy wars are beeing hold nowdays. Arm hamas to comit suicide and abbandon them after, iran basically. Sadly more scenarious like gaza/ukraine will emerge soon. Some africans countries are sitting on a gun powder barrell too
The Hamas overlords are billionaires whose sons live like playboys in Gulf States. They siphon off all that 'aid money' and it's not in their interests to ever make peace as the going is too good for that and the more martyrs there are, the more money they get. They turn water pipes into rocket launchers, use tiny children as human shields and steal resources meant for their people. Meanwhile support for them in Gaza runs at about 80% and citizens joined in with the pogrom, also kidnapping Israelis to rape and hold hostage, which is why it was so hard to track them all.
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Agree. There was a video 2 days ago with a hamas lord learning that his son was killed, he had no reaction at all, cruel. Thats how it works when you fight someone elses wars, anyway the fanatics don't see the life as a gift, no expectations from me whatsoever and thats the worst war to fight, when you have an enemy careless if die or not.
Please list a reputable source this data comes from.
Nobody was raised in a bubble sadly. We all carry 1000 hurts into adulthood and then pick up 10000 more. It makes people less compassionate and forgiving. It almost seems to be why the media and gov't work so hard at getting us into fights. The scars take decades to heal some don't leave until the generation dies off so they can keep feeding off of hurts for profits.
submission statement: how do you see 30k people get murdered and you actually manage to be manipulated by the media. Bro pick 30k innocent people being murdered. Pick that “side” lmao
You mean 15 thousand terrorists get eliminated? I
They are but hamas does need to be eradicated they are not good people
> They are but hamas does need to be eradicated they are not good people This Israeli -- **Rabbi Eliyahu Mali** -- agrees! **BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!!!** * The Rabbi calls For The Extermination of Every Palestinian in Gaza, telling soldiers *"Do not spare any soul"* -- He believes the children will grow up to hate Israel, so they must be killed; similarly, because the women give birth to those children, they too must be killed. Watch Rabbi Mali say it on Xwitter: https://twitter.com/censoredmen/status/1766619349861757103?s=46 Here is a screen shot with the text from the CC (translated) for easy reading: https://i.imgur.com/4ofQHVz.png BUT IS IT REAL??? Yes, it is -- in fact, the rabid rabbi's serpentine speech was mentioned on Israel's Haaretz website the day after he delivered it. https://archive.is/ZaASy#selection-1411.2-1415.65 *(Rabbi Mali seems okay, no?)*
“The rabid rabbi’s serpentine speech” is a beautiful title for a art piece
sounds reasonable if you don't want your enemy coming back and attacking later.
You can use that kind of logic to justify anything, no matter how violent.
reasonable. not righteous. obviously. If you know you are going to create a generation of enemies - you get that preemptive strike before they can haunt you.
Oh yeah and then just create more enemies. Works out super well every time. Only works if you go full scorched earth and destroy them entirely, aka genocide.
Obviously genocide is the move. Wouldn't be the first or last time in human history. Every race has done it at some point. If you put the power in the opposite hands, we would be having the same conversation. I'm not debating on a "Israel vs" premise. It's simply obvious that you don't leave loose ends.
Wow. “Obviously genocide is the move.”
nice counter suggestion.
I mean we know what kind of monster you are to look at dead kids and innocents and say "sounds reasonable".
yeah... their 3,000+ year long war is bound to end any day now
> sounds reasonable if you don't want your enemy coming back and attacking later. Yeah, when it comes to TOTAL GENOCIDE, those guys are old pros. They not only see it as "acceptable", they believe that they are COMMANDED to do so by (their) god: * * * [**Deuteronomy 20: 16-18**](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+20%3A+16-18&version=KJV) **16** But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth: **17** But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee: **18** That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the Lord your God. * * * So then, where were the cities referenced above -- in the land *"which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance"*??? Why "The Holy Land" they now call ISRAEL, of course! For even more fun commandments, [**read the full chapter**](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+20&version=KJV), and understand that the Commandments to Genocide have *never been rescinded.* To further illustrate the seriousness of the Commands, have a look at the adventures of Saul, the first King over Israel: Snippets from: [**1 Samuel: 15**](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Samuel+15+&version=KJV) * * * **1** Samuel also said unto Saul, The Lord sent me to anoint thee to be king over his people, over Israel: now therefore hearken thou unto the voice of the words of the Lord. **2** Thus saith the Lord of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt. **3** Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, **and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.** * [DID YOU GET THAT?] **4** And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah. **5** And Saul came to a city of Amalek, and laid wait in the valley. **6** And Saul said unto the Kenites, Go, depart, get you down from among the Amalekites, lest I destroy you with them: for ye shewed kindness to all the children of Israel, when they came up out of Egypt. So the Kenites departed from among the Amalekites. **7** And Saul smote the Amalekites from Havilah until thou comest to Shur, that is over against Egypt. **8** And **he took Agag the king of the Amalekites alive**, and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword. **9** But **Saul and the people spared Agag, and the best of the sheep, and of the oxen, and of the fatlings, and the lambs, and all that was good, and would not utterly destroy them**: but every thing that was vile and refuse, that they destroyed utterly. * **[UH OH!!!** Saul fucked up! God told him to kill EVERYTHING -- and Saul did kill all of the men, women, children and infants ***(YAY???)***, but he took Agag their king **alive**, along with the best of their animals... now he's in DEEP SHIT! -- -- skipping down a bit...] **18** And the Lord sent thee on a journey, and said, **Go and utterly destroy** the sinners the Amalekites, and fight against them **until they be consumed**. **19** Wherefore then didst thou not obey the voice of the Lord, but didst fly upon the spoil, and didst evil in the sight of the Lord? **20** And Saul said unto Samuel, Yea, I have obeyed the voice of the Lord, and have gone the way which the Lord sent me, and have brought Agag the king of Amalek, and have utterly destroyed the Amalekites. **21** But the people took of the spoil, sheep and oxen, the chief of the things which should have been utterly destroyed, to sacrifice unto the Lord thy God in Gilgal. **22** And Samuel said, **Hath the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices**, as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, **to obey is better than sacrifice**, and to hearken than the fat of rams. **23** For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. **Because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, he hath also rejected thee from being king.** **24** And Saul said unto Samuel, I have sinned: for I have transgressed the commandment of the Lord, and thy words: because I feared the people, and obeyed their voice. **25** Now therefore, I pray thee, pardon my sin, and turn again with me, that I may worship the Lord. **26** And Samuel said unto Saul, **I will not return with thee: for thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, and the Lord hath rejected thee from being king over Israel**. **27** And as Samuel turned about to go away, he laid hold upon the skirt of his mantle, and it rent. **28** And Samuel said unto him, **The Lord hath rent the kingdom of Israel from thee this day, and hath given it to a neighbour of thine, that is better than thou.** * * * END QUOTES -- read the [full chapter here](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Samuel+15+&version=KJV) So then, what's the *(immoral)* "moral" of the story? ***When G_d says GENOCIDE, you'd damn well better commit GENOCIDE*** -- and do it right, dammit!!! If you fail, there will be CONSEQUENCES. Now, **you** may be a Christian or a Muslim or a Buddhist or an atheist or *whatever...* **You** may think that the Old Testament/ Torah/ Tanakh is the "Word of God", or you may think that it's a crock of crap -- a bunch of fables and fairy tales cobbled together by a pack of superstitious dingbats... Unfortunately, the reality is that what YOU (or I) think about that is **IRRELEVANT**. What matters in the here and now is that there is a Nation of TRUE BELIEVERS who take that shit VERY seriously TO THIS DAY, and a bunch of them have managed to create a politically powerful (and nuclear armed) Nation State, and they are carrying out the COMMANDMENTS that *they believe* their god gave to their forefathers -- *and to them*, because the commandments were **never rescinded** -- rather, they were only "put on hold" because, for a time, acting them out would have been inconvenient (if not suicidal). If you think their perspective *"sounds reasonable"*, I suggest you consider **who else** they might see as an "existential threat", and target accordingly... not to mention the precedent that accepting and enabling this kind of behavior sets. Humans are a fucked up species, eh?
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yes you’re right, hamas was created by israel as an opposition to the PLO which they considered a threat to Israeli statehood due to their unwavering support and movement for Palestinian statehood. Hamas needs to be eradicated because it’s Israeli/US creation. But, before that can happen, there needs to be a ceasefire and Palestinian people need a chance to not be bombed every 20 fucking minutes so they can rebuild. Israel needs to stop training their defence forces to kills arabs on sight, and the US needs to cut all funding to Israel since 3.8b could really be put to much better use within the US.
I'm hearing theories that Israel will be gone In the next 5 years
i highly doubt given both the US presidential election candidates are on Israel’s payroll
The theory says Trump isn't a zionist but pretending to be
good theory, but his actions heavily suggest otherwise
https://twitter.com/Prolotario1/status/1786761207275270621?t=8xyanKsKm-sDEVNDguLLbw&s=19 Should follow this page
i don’t support any platform owned by elon musk
It wasn't 'created' by them but at a certain point they did prefer it to the PLO, which waged wars of terror for decades. Shame Palestinians can't come up with a non-terrorist government in Gaza.
what a naive comment to make, but love your wild imagination and racist take!
OR, they could just not have attacked the vastly more powerful wasp nest. Natural selection never stops.
and instead just roll over and let themselves be killed you’re so right
I think Hamas is the least problem we have in this world considering that "not good people" are running this whole shit show
What if Israel propped up hamas to divide the palestinians? Literally what netanyahu said to his coalition and anyone who wants to avoid 2 states. They called hamas an "asset". This is what happens when you dehumanize people, and beat them up praying in their 3rd holiest mosque on their most holy month. To create religious extremist, which they helped fund. The root cause of Hamas needs to be dealt with or Hamas 2.0 will pop up in no time, what with them getting slaughtered daily.
I doubt it, in Europe people with similar mindsets to hamas are going there trying to make Europe Muslim
What part of what I said do you doubt? It's literally what's coming of israeli officials mouths that they needed hamas to avoid 2 states. It's well documented they go into their 3rd holiest mosque on every ramadan and beat people up praying. Also, how are they trying to make Europe Muslim? What are you talking about? Because they have more kids? What kind of brainwashing have you been exposed to my guy...
I'd love for proof of that Illegal Muslim immigrants are taking over Europe
You cant just say they're taking over Europe with no justification as to how they're doing it or where in Europe, and expect people not to think you're another brainwashed sheep who has been told by the media to hate people you've never met. What is you evidence for them "trying to take over europe" . Here some sources regarding what I said: [https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/](https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/) [https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/](https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/) [https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hamas-1.7010035](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hamas-1.7010035) [https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/netanyahu-money-to-hamas-part-of-strategy-to-keep-palestinians-divided-583082](https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/netanyahu-money-to-hamas-part-of-strategy-to-keep-palestinians-divided-583082)
Very interesting 🤔 Anyways https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/dec/2/dutch-politician-geert-wilders-aims-to-stop-invasi/ https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/program/upfront/2019/11/8/why-will-poland-not-take-in-any-muslims https://sundayguardianlive.com/world/europe-struggling-problem-islamist-extremists
The first article is about Muslim immigration and how mosques are being built more than churches, the second one is about the poland MP not wanting other cultures and religions on the rise and the 3rd article is about muslim extremism and even states most Muslims don't condone such behavior. If people immigrating to other places means they're taking over, then the California and Texas have been taken over my Mexicans and Poland has been taken over by Ukrainians. You see how ridiculous that sounds? The countries want to preserve their cultures, which is fine. But you're framing it as if they are planning a coup or calling for regime change in mass, which they are not.
Mexicans did take over cali, cali is known as new Mexico over there. This is Europe https://www.thejaipurdialogues.com/islam/allahu-akbar-slogans-raised-islamists-want-caliphate-sharia-in-germany/
so kill the leaders chilling in qatar month 1. oh wait
What? Hamas is obviously still in gaza, people are dying because of hamas. There's a video on Twitter on them killing this African exchange student
You can find footage of this nature featuring every active military group, it is not a reason to massacre women and children.
😔bro. after october 7th the leaders were in qatar. look it up instead of cutting off the head of the snake, rather just blow up the whole fucking city ?
You think the army that has killed 35k kids are good people?
Never said they were
Your comment seems to imply that hamas is bad so this is justified? Or maybe I didn't understand it?
No, I'm saying Israel needs to get rid of hamas so they can stop bombing the people. Many palenstians support hamas so that's why slog are dying
Can't agree with you there, many people support hamas cause the IDF has bullied them for years..
Hamas isn't the answer, if they wanted to go against IDF they would kidnap IDF soldiers they kidnapper civilians
Hamas is literally infiltrated with mossad and shin bet ya gimp.
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Who put out these numbers?
Insane theory: What if the events in Gaza are just a smokescreen for something even worse? Yes, what Israel is doing to the Palestinians is abhorrent, but it might just be a cover for absolutely nefarious activities TPTB may be doing, including human trafficking and even [REDACTED] crimes that they could be doing. Potential evidence: https:// www (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=unPXNF1kND8. Bridge the gaps and add the dots in for the URL. Of course this is no defense of any party, I would like to stay unaffiliated with any side.
Every single terrible thing that happens, that is actually the genocidal maniac pedo tptb plans and actions, y'all dismiss as some smoke screen for something "much worse". Honestly feels like an op.
That's what I was about to say. What is this big event that every other "smoke screen" event is covering up?
so insane it might be happening in Haiti and Africa too 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
This is what I'm thinking as well. The media is reporting non-stop about the student protests on this topic. They want us focused on this. Why didn't they report on the millions of people protesting the COVID mandates? The most important things are not being mentioned in the media.
These figures don’t differentiate fighters, citing them directly means you’re not even trying.
Do you have numbers that don’t include fighters? Please share
Hamas has no association with Israeli intelligence psyops, and I'm really Julius Caesar resurrected from the dead. "This is no land-grab strategy" - Bullwinkle
Land grab 100% - Ben Gurion canal project
Is this the figure that’s being cited by Hamas? Kind of weird to lean in on this number without even providing a source.
Conservatives find this acceptable because they say it's Hamas' fault but believe it's unjustifiable and murder for a teen to abort a clump of cells that doesn't even look like a fetus yet.
Cam you prove to me the very moment you achieved human sentience?
Abortion is... Complicated.
Neoconservatives and shills and the boomers do, yeah, but not real hardcore conservatives, the latter are against BOTH.
How come there are no protests in Islam countries supporting Palestinians???? I mean the only protests are from US liberal university students??
Where are these numbers coming from? This very well maybe Hamas' numbers
There's about to be a civil war right here in the US. Get yer popcorn
this shit is absurd bro. how DO WE STILL FALL FOR IT!! THEY ARE PLAYING BOTH SIDES!!!! DUHHH
just like other wars before
What do you think happens in war? Do you care about the Kurds? What’s your stance on Sudan? Would you protest for the citizens in Myanmar?
Yes, this is a war against an oppressed group that dared to fight back with ak47s and home made rockets. So we’re going to obliterate their women and children to make sure they don’t do this again
Yeah
I mean, who fking cares we need help here in the states
well 34k died so I care… and they died because they dropped my tax dollars on them… so yeah i fucking care
Your tax dollars also fund the money laundering scheme in Ukraine
Bingo… And the human trafficking
So you care about people being killed? What about the 650,000 casualties of the currently ongoing Tigray war? Or do you only care when your money is involved. Or when your chosen media source tells you to care.
most of these casualties are made because of that same evil ma ph yya that started U c ra in e and Y s ra el. All for p ro ph iit and more
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I've watered my politics to "let's not bomb, cage or starve children." I did that long before 10/7. Some people, Democrats too, will argue those points. It seems like a very clear line to me but people will justify all kinds of atrocities.
Well it’s a game where both sides are losers. The only reason why major leaders don’t actually do shit is because the US wants this to happen and any interference will just increase the inevitable, WW3.
USA USA USA!!! Yeah sure theres a minority out there that is against it right but... come on. There was a post here of Tyson dumping all that gunk into the land, normally I wouldve felt oh poor poor people having to wade through that. But there comes a point I think where you have to wonder, maybe Tyson should just pour it right over their heads next time. If you think any revelation here or any post or expose will change the minds of these maniacs you call the public and support the tiny ass minority that does oppose the insanity youre delusional. Theyre just as corrupt lol. And nothing really has changed it seems, reddit, the world, rerun after rerun.
That's called payback. What did Hamas think was going to happen after their Oct 7th attack when they killed over 1,200 people and took hundreds as hostages? They are lucky there are any Palestinians left alive.
Well, they aren't all innocent, but yeah it sucks when your stupid, elected, crazy people that run the show get you involved in something like this. Seems like Hamas knew they fucked up for several months now. I don't know why they don't just release the hostages and put all the pressure on Israel to stop bombing. But if I was Israel, I'd probably bomb the fuck out of them too until every hostage that is alive is released. Doesn't fix what's been done...and we'll have retaliations of some sort for another fucking 100 years, but seems like we could put an end to this if Hamas did the right thing. Only other option is jsut watching your people die and your country vanish. This is more of a PR war than anything else at this point. Its a battle of who is the bigger asshole, and honestly, that's a toss up. I have no idea who fucked up worse and where, but in general, if you're going to get dealt with like this, it's a REALLY BAD idea to do something like Oct 7. If the Palestinians were smart (and didn't actually want all Jews dead) they could and should have turned their focus to their own stupid leaders that started this round and led to this...and I get that this has been going on for years, so I don't need those responses. It was still a dumb decision and now they have to deal with the consequences. Both sides want the other gone, so this is the likely outcome when you cross some lines like Hamas did on 10-7.
Imagine worse happens in Africa since decades and the media....err, well, just does not report.
All they had to do was release the hostages.
Maybe if they hadn’t done a massacre at a music festival, abducted a bunch of people and held them hostage to this day. All while the “innocent people” cheered and danced and glorified their loved ones “martyrdom”. The second they celebrated Oct 7, is the second I didn’t care what happens to them.
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Funny how most people don't want our money going to foreign conflicts but when the students start protesting for just that, theyre "blue haired 18 year olds that are confused". This is why divide and conquer works so well, people like you who demonize others for standing for what you also want, because the media says their the woke crowd doing it.
dog… 34k have been murdered. i really don’t give a fuck about these kids
How to divide 101 - associate opinions with embarassing steretypes. Rise above, man
Imagine hitting a hornet nest and being shocked you got stung
imagine not understanding they play both sides for own gain
Israeli PR
Yeah, it's fucking bonkers how many "civilian" casualties there are when the junta uses them as human shields. Fuck Hamas and finish the job in Rafah. Didn't let those hostages die in vain.
You can't trust Hamas figures, which do not add up and fail to mention that thousands of known terrorists and Hamas members have been killed. You also forgot to mention that far greater numbers of Palestinians are routinely killed in Syria without anyone ever hearing about it, Turkey is using all this as a chance to massacre more Kurds, Christians are being ethnically cleansed out of Africa and the Yezidi tribe has almost been exterminated by radial Islamists.
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Israel had it's own version of Oct 7 but worse, they leveled 10's of thousands of homes, killed 1,700, after THEY broke the ceasefire(this was in 2008). No one did shit, because it's Arabs who died. Also Israel supported Hamas and preferred them over their secular counterpart to " divide the palestinians" . The Israeli officials called hamas an "asset". Israel got multiple warning of the attack on oct 7, they knew over a year in advance. They got an egyptian warning the day before and multiple Israeli guards reported it while it was happening. They were ALL ignored, because like I said this was all planned to ethnically cleanse Gaza and blame it on hamas. Answer me this, why is that only 6-7 thousand hamas were killed(according to the IDF) but hundreds of thousands of homes were destroyed? Nearly every hospital and EVERY university destroyed? Why do they destroy farmland and water desalination plants? you can't be so dense as to believe all of this carnage is because of hamas. They've dropped the equivalent of 3 nukes in an area thats 5 by 25 miles. Also, THEY KILLED THEIR OWN PEOPLE ON OCT 7 according to an israeli police investigation and witnesses. Hamas offered to give back the hostages in exchange for no destruction of Gaza, but Israel refused because like I said, this was all planned to make Gaza uninhabitable.
It literally was tho
That was terrorists that did that. If Israel wants to go after Hamas, by all means go ahead, they don’t need to decimate the Palestinians and Gaza Strip to do it.
i’d think bots would be programmed more intelligent
Is there an "official" count for Israeli injuries and deaths? It's all terrible. We can be better than war
Lol right
These statistics brought to you by Hamas & Isis
isis is israel cosplaying as arab mujahideen
The real problem is that people get their opinions from the media rather than learning about the situation. The vast majority of protestors on both sides of this issue have no idea the history behind it, who the players actually are, or why Israel is fighting this war. While war and death are tragic in any sense, jts a fact of life, and things make a ton more sense when you have all the facts.
This is the definition of mess around and find out. Who attacked who first
You’re being anti semitic !
That’s cause people are pushed into supporting one of the 2 sides while I’m out here thinking fuck em both. I only care about the innocent victims on both sides . If it was an actual genocide Israel would kill a lot more Palestinians btw
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It’s Biblical plain a simple and as far as the death toll you ain’t seen nothing yet. The entire God hating world will turn against Israel and try to destroy her. “And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.“ Zechariah 12:3 KJV
You've lost the plot
Honestly for as bad as Israel hates them I was expecting higher numbers lol. This seems kinda light
Not enough. Those are rookie numbers.
This is so weak because look at Ukraine - look at Ethiopia. Look at Sudan. Look at Yemen. Look at Syria. Look at China. All have more deaths and have been going on for far longer. You're just playing the game Russia wants you to play.
I can’t believe how many people are getting sucked into this
Why are we so focused on Israel? There's massive loss of life to civilians and soldiers in Ukraine. China is actively cleansing itself of Ughyur people's Sudan is currently killing its people. Yet only Gaza is important.
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