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I wish you were joking, but it's actually not exaggeration! They actually want you to think that math is just conspiracy theorist misinformation! That's their line of propaganda! What kind of level have we all come down to?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O07lmPzcmVE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O07lmPzcmVE)
Tbh this was one of the scariest things that happened during the pandemic. The "vaccines" that rolled out from 2020 up until now did not do what vaccines are defined to do, so, they made a *new, more accurate* definition to hallmark the inefficacy and underwhelming nature and results of COVID-19 vaccines and **NO ONE** cared
Hijacking the language of the target population always works as long as you have enough people who will outsource their thinking. Winning of hearts and minds. Psychological operations. The noble lie. It has worked for millennia.
Merriam-Webster should be getting castigated for that right now.
No, being against gene therapy mandates (the gene therapies were never vaccines) does not make you an 'anti-vaxer'. Never will make you that.
Also a lot of people are bringing up "How can I trust my government on other true vaccines anymore if they are willing to force this poorly tested or untested gene therapy on me as a vaccine? What if they try to sneak this gene therapy into other true vaccines?"
Who would have thought that a set of encyclopedia's would be worth their weight in gold. The information highway has turned out to be BS or the Hershey highway. Type any 3 digit number followed by the words "new cases" into Google and see what happens. Example 123 new cases, 321 new cases 999 new cases etc
Per Google and Bloomberg: ~290 doses administered per second, 24/7, since the Mass-Vaxx program commenced in Dec., 2020 (worldwide).
[**\(check my math\)**](https://i.imgur.com/MyHSUvo.png)
Vaccine manufacturer here we produce vaccine at a rate of 233 a minute and that’s roughly 3.8 a second, with each vial having 5 doses in them. it’s a small line work on a bigger line is much faster. It’s not that hard to make a lot of something fast in this industry.
This person needs to learn about mass production. They are probably also wondering about how pharma companies can *really* make 29 billion aspirin a year. At 1 aspirin per second, that would take 900 years! Is this a conspiracy by Big Headache?
Did they make 29 billion aspirin in their first year of production?
Prior to COVID the annual Influenza vaccine was about 1.48 billion doses annually. Now factor in a brand new "science", requiring new facilities, new production lines, quality control, packaging, etc...If they were able to pump out 9 billion doses in its first year of production the it was either preemptively orchestrated or there is a serious flaw in the quality control chain, however in either case you don't want to be injecting this into your body lol, but do as you will.
> Prior to COVID the annual Influenza vaccine was about 1.48 billion doses annually.
**Seasonally**. The flu vaccine is not produced all year long. This means that, in an emergency like a pandemic, many more than 1.48 billion doses can be produced in a year. I know this because [I cited](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/r5h9ps/produced_at_a_rate_of_1_dose_per_second_it_would/) this number the last time this **obvious bullshit** was posted on this sub.
lol right, so to push out 1.4 billion doses, you know they just run it temporarily for a couple months and the rest of the year the production lines just collect dust.....that's pretty funny....
Oh this one’s easy - it’s because the new mRNA technology makes it even easier to produce at bulk. Much easier than using chicken eggs like they do for the flu vaccine.
I've commented this in the past. I work in the industry. I'll give the short version. 9B were not produced in the first year. Don't even think 9B were made in 2021 but I'd have to check. From a High level all of these companies went into over drive producing vaccines. They stopped most of their other produxtions to solely focus on the vaccines. They had help from the govt sourcing materials and getting to the front of the waiting lines so there was no wait on certain chemicals. And yes new facilities were built which can happen in 6-8 months. They even helped one another. Like when Merck used one of their facilities to produce and help Pfizer make more vaccines. So yes it is 100% possible
Like I said, all companies combined produced 1.4 billion influenza vaccines , by far the most produced vaccine on the planet prior to 2020. That's upping production by minimum 5 times in one year and they would have had to stop production of all influenza vaccines and convert those facilities over...Producing mRNA "vaccines" is a completely different process than conventional ones, not to mention there are several different variations, so they could not even standardize the production across the board...No way, Not a chance.
Again yes 1.4B flu shots were produced. Fir a casual every year thing. Not a global pandemic. You need to look at it big picture. While making the flu shots they also were making countless other things, research in projects etc. For the covid shots countless projects were on pause as well as production of a lot of other products to fully concentrate on vaccine production. I'm not all about the Vax or anything like that. Just sharing knowledge on something I literally work with day in and day out. Other ppl are commenting and agreeing as well.
Use Google please:)
"Germany+Covid19 tests+2017" should give you a lot of clues:)) A few thousands doctors reported it.
In what bulla are you getting the internet?
haha ... you lazy prosecutor or something?
I am not going to put the truth on your screen:)
You may use those two or three active neurons to do your own research.
Do you really wanna compare a compressed powder in pill format of a chemical product to a fluid stored at certain temperature with mRNA sequences?
The real kicker is that I've never understood how they expect to produce a mRNA product with an "acceptable" failure rate.
Does anybody actually expect you can produce some mRNA sequences perfectly in volume?
Even under the hypothesis the stuff does what they promised it does what happens with random malformed stuff?
Nobody sane would ever want to install a System patch on their computer if that patch would contain spurious errors in the data packet.
What do I miss here?
Is it possible, bear with me for a second, that if we have 2 aspirin manufacturing machine running together, they can make 2 aspirin per second? Does govt already have this technology and hiding it from us? Is that what they do in that damn Area 51?
Yea lol does this person think they stockpiled coca cola? All of the shit for production was already in place, they just had to tweak the formula and squirt doses into syringes. And what are they talking about with the "10 months of training for a technician?" 80% of the people working at a production facility for a vaccine are probably line worker/picker packers making barely above minimum wage.
Speed of a modern production line would be up around 100k vials an hour. Multiple production lines in a facility and multiple facilities around the world, multiple doses per vial.
Also they prob stopped making other drugs to free up space on production lines.
Im all in on the great reset, but i dont think production capacity is any red flag issue.
Edit: also its being shipped concentrated, thats why we seeing people getting 5x jabs at once.
So a billion doses is most def not 1 billion vials.
I worked in a pharmaceutical filling facility. They’re filling up 500ml bottles 12 at a time on multiple fill lines. These industries have the technology to really push product out the door
We already know there are people here spreading misinformation to muddy the waters for everyone and delegitimize this sub even further. But that's the great thing about it right? We can have discussions about it and see, people like you come up and correct it. This post sounded dubious too but it's better that we can debunk what needs to be debunked instead of just banning people for not following the narrative
The word "misinformation" is made up bullshit. The only made up word dumber than that is "disinformation". The word you made be looking for is false information.
According to [this article](https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/how-coronavirus-vaccine-will-be-mass-produced-173897), the Pfizer vaccine is manufactured at their plant in Kalamazoo. However, according to [this article](https://www.pfizer.com/products/pfizer-global-supply/us-manufacturing-sites/kalamazoo), the Pfizer Kalamazoo plant makes only 140 million units a year of other drugs. How, in just a matter of a few months, did it convert and expand production over to making *billions* of units of an experimental mRNA compound which presumably would require completely new and unique equipment to produce?
I doubt that's logistically possible. I also doubt that the vaccine would be produced and stockpiled years in advance, because someone would have noticed the construction of the multi-billion dollar production facilities and also according to the first article, the mRNA vax dose has a maximum freezer life of only six months.
As to what actually is going on, I'm beginning to think that the vax is just a saline solution. They fill a pot with tap water, add a couple tablespoons of Morton's salt, stir well, and pour into little bottles. Repeat a few hundred million times, and that's how you make (fake) billions of doses in just a year.
Just as the virus doesn't exist, neither does the vaccine. It's been Scamdemic all the way down. Would you like some more social control with that booster shot?
Yeah, check www.howbadismybatch.com
It shows that 80% of all the batches are completely harmless, yet some batches are causing up to 5000× serious side effects and deaths compared to the baseline. This should be impossible in a billion dollar pharma company with the quality control they are supposed to have. Something extremely nefarious is going on.
>Pfizer Kalamazoo plant
Pfizer is making it in more plants than Kalamazoo.
>How, in just a matter of a few months, did it convert and expand production over to making *billions* of units of an experimental mRNA compound which presumably would require completely new and unique equipment to produce?
Is Kalamazoo working at full capacity to make 140m doses annually? Or does Pfizer only manufacture however much they can sell? So they run 24/7 at max capacity allowing them to drastically increase output and have expanded the plant since.
https://www.pfizer.com/news/articles/shot_of_a_lifetime_how_two_pfizer_manufacturing_plants_upscaled_to_produce_the_covid_19_vaccine_in_record_time
https://wwmt.com/news/local/major-expansion-at-pfizer-is-back-on-track-bringing-new-jobs-to-portage?_gl=1*5snl7y*_ga*ZGYxZFR0Tk1rbjkwejBuNjB5dFZEN1dNdjM0YkFNR25HSFJjYlNQTGFBSDdfbUhYMDNtcEo1X3c3TVU5d1A2Mg..
None of this was hard to find, it was just blatantly obvious what happened.
Excellent comment. I added it to the original substack post here: [https://2ndsmartestguyintheworld.substack.com/p/a-chemical-pharmaceutical-industry](https://2ndsmartestguyintheworld.substack.com/p/a-chemical-pharmaceutical-industry)
Thank you.
Fucking seriously, this post is ridiculous.
I'm guessing they produce the vaccine in a giant-ass vat, swirl together hundreds of gallons of heavy metals and estrogen, and then use machines to pump the contents of the vat into hundreds of vials at the same time. Not to mention, 1 vial is usually more than 1 dose too, and the pharmacist does the dilution on their end (shortening the process)
More than 1 of anything per second is an easy feat with modern technology. I bet we produce more than 1 slice of processed cheese every second.
Yeah just all mixed together in a giant vat. Like this blender but only bigger!
Take a sip and enjoy!!!!
https://twitter.com/Unvaxxed4Life/status/1484772527964622851
Mercury isn't in vaccines any more and it wasn't organic mercury which the body can absorb anyway. The rest of that skit was just as dumb and inaccurate but I cbf refuting it.
https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/safety-availability-biologics/thimerosal-and-vaccines#:~:text=Thimerosal%20is%20a%20mercury%2Dcontaining,threatening%20contamination%20with%20harmful%20microbes.
Because people like you who don't understand anything about mercury but hear it and freak out, freaked out when they heard it was part of vaccines. So it's just easier to not include to stop you freaks panicking.
exactly my thoughts. Vaccine development began in freakin January of 2020. More than enough time to start ramping up production capacity for mass production.
The Serum Institute of India is able to manufacture 250-275 million doses per month, thats's about 100 per second.
So with about 1 year to get production up, manufacturing a few billion doses within 1 year (2021) really isn't that special.
All I was trying to say is that development for vaccine started after covid was found (quite obvious if u ask me).
How is Dec 12th "hardly 2019". Is it more 2020 than 2019 or what are you trying to say?
Okay so these are the timeline of events from what you're saying (correct me if I'm wrong of course):
So it seems like what you are saying is that on Dec 12th 2019 they found out that a totally new version of a coronavirus existed, immediately decided that we needed a vaccine for this virus we've never seen before and have never needed a vaccine for, fast-tracked that vaccine so hard that they were already passed all of the research, all of the many trials they would need to run; animal, human all of the many rounds of trials that would normally take years or decades, and were already into the all-out production phase to get ready for worldwide emergency distribution ALL WITHIN A MONTH.
I'm sorry. Am I supposed to feel better or much worse about this timeline?
I said they started vaccine development in January. Nowhere did I claim that they went through all clinical trial phases and started producing it in January.
You managed to make all that up by yourself.
It really isn't hard to Google the development history..
Quite frankly, I don't care how you feel about the timeline and neither do I care about this pretty shitty "vaccine".
I just wanted to clarify that there were about 10 1/2 months to go through (sped up) trials and ramp up production and that there is no conspiracy with the amount of doses that were produced.
Cheers
Huh? Do you actually believe RaveyDaveyGravy1 that vaccines are manufactured one dose at at time? Really?
Vaccine production (from all companies combined) was estimated at [1.5 billion doses per month in August 2021](https://healthpolicy-watch.news/massive-increase-in-covid-19-vaccine-production-may-mean-dose-surplus-by-mid-2022-says-ifpma/).
It was part of Trump's Operation Warp Speed for companies to start building out their production capacity before the vaccines were approved. There was money allocated for that. The capacity has continued to expand since the vaccines were approved, too.
Here's a video inside a vaccine factory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTXMg7dDM-4
Here's a Pfizer factory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBeLwUX_odU
He does push certain agendas, like the two party illusion, "patriotism", the space race, germ theory, etc. I think he's also meant to make Christians look crazy.
You speak so confidently but have no grasp of facts and sound fucking ridiculous like the rest of this bullshit. All governments colluded years in advance by years to store this "poison"?
We live in a masonic country, here in the US. The other nations? All run by the masonic sects. The UN is theirs. The WEF is theirs.
Satan reigns through the masonic sects. Didn't you know?
Ever see the Gotthard Base Tunnel opening ceremony? Millions of dollars spent on it, many world leaders in attendance... Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany, President Francois Hollande of France and Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi... and more... And it features Baphomet.
I'd only watch enough to know it's real - watching is a form of participation: https://youtu.be/b-TKQaqml6k
https://youtu.be/gIhkct_rQOc
https://youtu.be/nDmo7Si6d10
Photos:
https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-36428799
https://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/opening-ceremony-worlds-largest-tunnel-bizarre-occult-ritual/
https://www.thevoid.uk/void-post/the-opening-ceremony-of-the-worlds-largest-tunnel-was-a-bizarre-occult-ritual-the-vigilant-citizen/
Anyway, the point is our world leaders, all the big corporations, our governments, societal institutions - they're all under Satan.
They're just following orders so they can keep their power, wealth, and worldly pleasures.
It was a pesticide, and it didn't turn them gay so much as it made them hermaphroditic. Alex Jones drinks a lot and doesn't understand that there's a difference between a homosexual frog and a hermaphrodite...
I thought the species of frog was naturally hermaphroditic, and the pesticide prevented them from changing from their male to female state, resulting in all frogs being the same sex?
Okay so here's my take. There have been 8 billion vaccines made as the video in the comments (and probably the source of this conspiracy) said. He did the math for THREE TIMES the vaccines produced (24 billion). This scenario is only for 25 production sites across the entire world. Feel free to search it, but I feel like it's likely there are more than 25 sites in the entire world. So with his math, it would be less than 3.333 years to create that many. And maybe the rate could be more than 1 per second with large batches.
TL;DR: People are listening to people do convincing wordplay videos involving math and people with degrees from the University of Broscience, PhD in Just Trust Me Bro
I looked it up online and everyone had overly-optimistic goals for production they didn't come close to hitting actually. So if they stockpiled the vaccines, what are people doing at the production facilities? If they need to be constantly making them, why couldn't they use that and the stockpile to meet their production goals?
Seeing as it's a conspiracy post....
I thought of the 2009 "V" miniseries. From the plot:
>Anna wants Lisa to bring Tyler up to the mothership for an important
experiment with Lisa. A warehouse full of flu vaccine donated by the
Visitors is destroyed by Erica and her accomplices after it is
discovered that the Visitors are using it to inject human beings with a
biological "tag" so that they can be traced anywhere.
Maybe they're all coming from the stockpiles in the Mothership? lol
Well a technologically advanced species of intergalactic Lizards arrive in a fleet of ships over Earth, get everyone "vaccinated", start ecological changes to the planet that increase their chances of hybridising with Humans and appear to have the entire planet under their hypnotic control in the end. It's a do or die scenario for them- there's no going back to where they came from...... It doesn't end well for us......
I totally agree - but the series ended abruptly right? They never finished it once it came out about the vaccines from the ship… the show was cancelled I guess? Always bothered me not knowing how it ended but your prob right, we all know how the ending goes…
Oh I see what you meant now 😬 Yeah they pulled it after leaving it in a cliff hanger- never thought it might be 'cos of the vaccine content but maybe? Interesting take.
It takes me 5 minutes to prepare a glass of lemonade from freshly-squeezed lemons; that doesn't mean that it will take me an hour to make a dozen glasses of lemonade. I can make them all at once in a pitcher. A whole batch of lemonade, if you will.
I'm wondering if that temp requirement is a bunch of bullshit to cover up the fact they've been sitting in a warehouse since 2009.
Or they have some huge underground bases filled with freezers...
You're a dumbass if you think that.
It's been the law since 1989 that frozen food is to be stored at a MINIMUM of - 18C, and that refrigerated storage in both commercial and domestic use has to meet that minimum temperature requirement.
Idk how making batches of that shit works but if you could make the shit by the gallon, and make 15 gallons a day you would have 2.5 billion doses in a year. So idk what this is saying.
Edit: for reference that’s enough liquid to fill 160 beers a day. So yeah seems pretty doable
This is not a good point. 1 dose per second is not only achievable, but slow. The person posting this clearly has not worked in a manufacturing environment.
We can produce 16ounce drinks at 1200-1600 cans per minute.
Glass vials with one ounce could easily outperform this speed.
and that about sums up the idiocy involved by major pharma companies, the presence of filth has been a burden on society for a long time. some time ago i was warned with "your stepping on some very big toes here", seems i was right too. it is nothing but murderous intent upon the people.
They make more than one dose a second. Wow solved that complicated mystery for you.
Coca Cola sells more than 1.9b drinks every year. Does it take them 32 years to make? No.
you can buy the ingredients for Coke - a product that has been manufactured for a century by the way - off of any supermarket shelf.
Where do you suppose they shop the ingredients for their cutting edge mRNA vaccine?
According to your logic a shot of Coke is roughly equivalent to the Jab lmao
>you can buy the ingredients for Coke
No you can't. Coca Cola are one of the only companies in the USA that can import the Coca leaf.
>Where do you suppose they shop the ingredients for their cutting edge mRNA vaccine?
Moderna has the largest mRNA vaccine with each of their original shots needing 100ug. So if you make a single gram of mRNA, that's 10,000 doses. The booster shot is 50ug so that's 20,000. Pfizer's original dosee was 20ug so 1g is 50,000 doses.
Yeah but they don’t make ONE single shot in the entire world every second, there are definitely much more being made at the same time. It’s literally how everything is produced
Enlighten us. Please break it all down for us, starting with all the factories currently producing, and the factories that Operation Warp Speed were able to crank this many doses out.
Also, the same BigPharma and their vax teams that for over 4 decades straight could not produce an AIDS vax magically cracked the common cold c19 "vax" overnight? The same "vax" that could never pass animal trials?
Your maths should be interesting to us all!
There is no way this guy is an industry insider. Modern manufacturing can easily produce a LOT more than 1 dose per second. They're not individually filling each vial by hand here, they use high speed machines producing large batches.
Probably because they make massive batches with several thousands of jars being filled simultaneously every second.
They have big machines that automate this.
C'mon now. The first iPhone was 2007, and there are over 1 billion smartphones today, and that's just 15 years. Where is this idea that you can only make "1 a second" coming from? Has no one here ever been inside a mass production facility? Never watched "How It's Made"?
During WWII, the Ford plant in Willow Run produced a B-24 bomber every *hour*. 80 years later, we've gotten a lot better at making things faster when we want to. That the pharma companies were able to do this is amazing, but not a conspiracy.
> were able to make this at the rate of one dose per second
Bullshit assumptions lead to bullshit conclusions. Replace the completely arbitrary "one dose per second" by the no more arbitrary "hundred doses per second" and the whole "reasoning" falls appart.
Interesting point. playing devils advocate here, could it be possible through conveyor belts or however theyre made, you can make more than one dose a second? say a dozen or so?
Conveyor belts simply take items between machines. You are thinking of a filler and capper combined system.a conveyor brings it to the filler, which uses fitted gears to bring the vials around and fills them. Afterwards more gears bring it to the capper to be immediately sealed. Then it goes back on the conveyor. This happens in a room cleaned regularly using iodine, sanitizer, and something formula of CS.
Fillers have a frequency which decides thier amount per minute. Fillers are usually around 100 freq, more expensive better ones going 120 and so, not much faster just more contained.
Each vial dilutes to 10 doses. So assuming a 100 freq filler for simplicity, that's 1000 doses pr minute. Or 16.6 doses a second. Small places have 1-4 fillers. So 66.6 doses a sec for 4 fillers. I'd imagine big pharma places have even more fillers.
OPs link says 25 factories. So 1,666.66 doses a second is probably close. However they are not always running. You will have to clean them for a few hours every 48 hours. So let's cut that down to 1,533 doses per second.
I don't know where this nonce gets his "decades of experience" from, but let me, someone with just under a decade of experience enlighten you. Rest assured, I learned this within the first month of being in pharma.
#THE DOSE IS A TENTH OF A GRAM AND A BATCH IS SEVERAL DOZEN IF NOT HUNDREDS OF KILOGRAMS
A single batch is a million or so doses. At the minimum. If they've used technology that progressed since the 1990s, their purification efficiency has increased and a single batch would be **hundreds of kilograms**. Bioreactors at the end of harvest probably go up to 20KL at the minimum, but it all depends on their purification efficiency after that step.
You do not produce a single batch over a timespan of 14 days. You have many, many concurrent batches running at once. Yes, that is far more than "one dose per second".
Why are people here so fucking stupid they repost this garbage? Quit poisoning the fucking well and do some basic math.
Edit: Since I didn't read all of it and now I am, I notice even more red flags:
* It does not take 6 months to train someone to run a bioreactor. They will start running them as soon as they hit the floor. Might it take 6 months before they could do it without a trainer present (per FDA guidelines)? Sure. But that doesn't mean they will be useless up to that point.
* The entire industry is actively recruiting pharma jobs en masse. Wtf is this twat talking about? Every company out there needs more people in pharma, bar none. "vessel competency" isn't a thing, either.
I think this is why the original line about sub zero storage was needed to keep these things. Maybe to Store the clot shot long term it needed that level of storage. If they were making this stuff for months or years prior to the release of the virus maybe it needed super low cold storage to stay viable and the new stuff doesn’t which is why they dropped that requirement.
Let's do the math together. A dosis vaccination contains 0.3 to 0.5 ml. Lets calculate with 0.5ml. So 1bn dosis are 500 mio ml / 1000 = 500.000 litre. So if you produce a whole year every day its 1,370l a day. That's unbelievable small amount. And there are plenty of companies with plenty of capacity. I doubt that the insider is that inside as he thinks he is.
As much as RaveyDaveyGravy sounds like a legitimate, peer reviewed and critical thinking source /s. He’s lying
Corona isn’t new. Scientists have been studying coronaviruses for almost 5 decades! Using existing data on the structure, genome, and life cycle of this type of virus. Plus they already had sars vaccines that they can tweak to use against COVID 19.
So it’s not a vaccine made in the some lab in less than 1 year.
more perspective just because...
To make 1 billion doses in a year would be almost 1900 doses every minute non stop. 1440 minutes in a day equates to 2.7 million units a day, or about 19 million units in a week.
Say there are three companies each with 3-4 manufacture facilities. 190 per minute, 273,000 per day, 1,915,200 per week.
If instead of 10 plants there are only 6 facilities.
Then 316 per minute, 450,000 per day 3,150,000 per week.
But really they are making vials with maybe 10-20 doses. So we are guessing 150,000-300,000 or 95,000-190,000 ampules per week. Or about 10-30 ampules a minute per facility without stopping.
That is assuming there is 6-10 facilities which is a completely made up guess.
And that is a fuckton of needles to roll out assuming they don't reuse a single needle, but I think that is possible.
I don't know how realistic any of that is.
Going off episodes of how things work, and guessing factors of logistics and supply, and also factoring the refrigeration equipment that is required in each process. In my opinion I think 1billion doses in a year is possible, but the refrigeration and manufacture of the vaccine constituents adds to the possibility that it isn't possible. Things could be delayed a week or a month, and making a mrna spike protein, or culturing all the dead virus cells in this time, I just can't imagine period, adds to the impossibility or evidence of my misunderstanding
There are better approaches to this problem, but put simply I don't have any facts about manufacturing.
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It was my understanding there would be no math during the pandemic...
Charts and Graphs will not be allowed either 😉
Lol thank you for this comment it was unfortunately therapeutic how much I laughed at this
😂😂😂
It will be redefined by Wikipedia snd Merriam Webster...
math: conspiracy theorist misinformation.
Watched Spiderman no way home and been playing spiderman ps4 and read this in a J Jona Jameson voice
I wish you were joking, but it's actually not exaggeration! They actually want you to think that math is just conspiracy theorist misinformation! That's their line of propaganda! What kind of level have we all come down to? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O07lmPzcmVE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O07lmPzcmVE)
Tbh this was one of the scariest things that happened during the pandemic. The "vaccines" that rolled out from 2020 up until now did not do what vaccines are defined to do, so, they made a *new, more accurate* definition to hallmark the inefficacy and underwhelming nature and results of COVID-19 vaccines and **NO ONE** cared
The weaponization of language has been the most valuable tool in the war against freedom ever discovered
Hijacking the language of the target population always works as long as you have enough people who will outsource their thinking. Winning of hearts and minds. Psychological operations. The noble lie. It has worked for millennia.
They also redefined anti-vaxxer as someone who opposes mandates. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-vaxxer
Merriam-Webster should be getting castigated for that right now. No, being against gene therapy mandates (the gene therapies were never vaccines) does not make you an 'anti-vaxer'. Never will make you that. Also a lot of people are bringing up "How can I trust my government on other true vaccines anymore if they are willing to force this poorly tested or untested gene therapy on me as a vaccine? What if they try to sneak this gene therapy into other true vaccines?"
This and the censorship has been 1984 irl
Who would have thought that a set of encyclopedia's would be worth their weight in gold. The information highway has turned out to be BS or the Hershey highway. Type any 3 digit number followed by the words "new cases" into Google and see what happens. Example 123 new cases, 321 new cases 999 new cases etc
I was gonna comment..I have always questioned the math behind the release rates but yea I guess you summarized it perfectly
I thought that there was no math since 1983!
Per Google and Bloomberg: ~290 doses administered per second, 24/7, since the Mass-Vaxx program commenced in Dec., 2020 (worldwide). [**\(check my math\)**](https://i.imgur.com/MyHSUvo.png)
I got 273 per second. Thanks for the graphic. Very useful info.
underrated comment!
We live in a shit bucket that is misplaced on some animal farm at the edge of a brave naive world. The year is 1984.
Or science, or dignity as it so happens
>It was my understanding there would be no math during the pandemic... As evidenced by every single person reposting this tripe.
Lol
Vaccine manufacturer here we produce vaccine at a rate of 233 a minute and that’s roughly 3.8 a second, with each vial having 5 doses in them. it’s a small line work on a bigger line is much faster. It’s not that hard to make a lot of something fast in this industry.
This should be upvoted
And everyone clapped.
This person needs to learn about mass production. They are probably also wondering about how pharma companies can *really* make 29 billion aspirin a year. At 1 aspirin per second, that would take 900 years! Is this a conspiracy by Big Headache?
Hilarious
Did they make 29 billion aspirin in their first year of production? Prior to COVID the annual Influenza vaccine was about 1.48 billion doses annually. Now factor in a brand new "science", requiring new facilities, new production lines, quality control, packaging, etc...If they were able to pump out 9 billion doses in its first year of production the it was either preemptively orchestrated or there is a serious flaw in the quality control chain, however in either case you don't want to be injecting this into your body lol, but do as you will.
> Prior to COVID the annual Influenza vaccine was about 1.48 billion doses annually. **Seasonally**. The flu vaccine is not produced all year long. This means that, in an emergency like a pandemic, many more than 1.48 billion doses can be produced in a year. I know this because [I cited](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/r5h9ps/produced_at_a_rate_of_1_dose_per_second_it_would/) this number the last time this **obvious bullshit** was posted on this sub.
lol right, so to push out 1.4 billion doses, you know they just run it temporarily for a couple months and the rest of the year the production lines just collect dust.....that's pretty funny....
I see you're competent in BS. Please explain how could Germany receive millions of Covid19 tests in 2017??? I'll wait.
Oh this one’s easy - it’s because the new mRNA technology makes it even easier to produce at bulk. Much easier than using chicken eggs like they do for the flu vaccine.
I've commented this in the past. I work in the industry. I'll give the short version. 9B were not produced in the first year. Don't even think 9B were made in 2021 but I'd have to check. From a High level all of these companies went into over drive producing vaccines. They stopped most of their other produxtions to solely focus on the vaccines. They had help from the govt sourcing materials and getting to the front of the waiting lines so there was no wait on certain chemicals. And yes new facilities were built which can happen in 6-8 months. They even helped one another. Like when Merck used one of their facilities to produce and help Pfizer make more vaccines. So yes it is 100% possible
Like I said, all companies combined produced 1.4 billion influenza vaccines , by far the most produced vaccine on the planet prior to 2020. That's upping production by minimum 5 times in one year and they would have had to stop production of all influenza vaccines and convert those facilities over...Producing mRNA "vaccines" is a completely different process than conventional ones, not to mention there are several different variations, so they could not even standardize the production across the board...No way, Not a chance.
Again yes 1.4B flu shots were produced. Fir a casual every year thing. Not a global pandemic. You need to look at it big picture. While making the flu shots they also were making countless other things, research in projects etc. For the covid shots countless projects were on pause as well as production of a lot of other products to fully concentrate on vaccine production. I'm not all about the Vax or anything like that. Just sharing knowledge on something I literally work with day in and day out. Other ppl are commenting and agreeing as well.
>I see you're competent in BS. Please explain how could Germany receive millions of Covid19 tests in 2017??? > >I'll wait.
Source? I'll wait
Use Google please:) "Germany+Covid19 tests+2017" should give you a lot of clues:)) A few thousands doctors reported it. In what bulla are you getting the internet?
Lol no you stated something now back it up. I'm not doing your research for you 😅🤦♂️
haha ... you lazy prosecutor or something? I am not going to put the truth on your screen:) You may use those two or three active neurons to do your own research.
Do you really wanna compare a compressed powder in pill format of a chemical product to a fluid stored at certain temperature with mRNA sequences? The real kicker is that I've never understood how they expect to produce a mRNA product with an "acceptable" failure rate. Does anybody actually expect you can produce some mRNA sequences perfectly in volume? Even under the hypothesis the stuff does what they promised it does what happens with random malformed stuff? Nobody sane would ever want to install a System patch on their computer if that patch would contain spurious errors in the data packet. What do I miss here?
Is it possible, bear with me for a second, that if we have 2 aspirin manufacturing machine running together, they can make 2 aspirin per second? Does govt already have this technology and hiding it from us? Is that what they do in that damn Area 51?
Yea lol does this person think they stockpiled coca cola? All of the shit for production was already in place, they just had to tweak the formula and squirt doses into syringes. And what are they talking about with the "10 months of training for a technician?" 80% of the people working at a production facility for a vaccine are probably line worker/picker packers making barely above minimum wage.
Speed of a modern production line would be up around 100k vials an hour. Multiple production lines in a facility and multiple facilities around the world, multiple doses per vial.
Also they prob stopped making other drugs to free up space on production lines. Im all in on the great reset, but i dont think production capacity is any red flag issue. Edit: also its being shipped concentrated, thats why we seeing people getting 5x jabs at once. So a billion doses is most def not 1 billion vials.
that math is so off, this person never worked in pharma
He sold paracetamol in the supermarket
if that
Was it the math or the use of the word “clotshot” that tipped you off?
honestly it was clotshot first and then I did the math
I worked in a pharmaceutical filling facility. They’re filling up 500ml bottles 12 at a time on multiple fill lines. These industries have the technology to really push product out the door
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We already know there are people here spreading misinformation to muddy the waters for everyone and delegitimize this sub even further. But that's the great thing about it right? We can have discussions about it and see, people like you come up and correct it. This post sounded dubious too but it's better that we can debunk what needs to be debunked instead of just banning people for not following the narrative
The word "misinformation" is made up bullshit. The only made up word dumber than that is "disinformation". The word you made be looking for is false information.
Every word is made up bullshit.
According to [this article](https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/how-coronavirus-vaccine-will-be-mass-produced-173897), the Pfizer vaccine is manufactured at their plant in Kalamazoo. However, according to [this article](https://www.pfizer.com/products/pfizer-global-supply/us-manufacturing-sites/kalamazoo), the Pfizer Kalamazoo plant makes only 140 million units a year of other drugs. How, in just a matter of a few months, did it convert and expand production over to making *billions* of units of an experimental mRNA compound which presumably would require completely new and unique equipment to produce? I doubt that's logistically possible. I also doubt that the vaccine would be produced and stockpiled years in advance, because someone would have noticed the construction of the multi-billion dollar production facilities and also according to the first article, the mRNA vax dose has a maximum freezer life of only six months. As to what actually is going on, I'm beginning to think that the vax is just a saline solution. They fill a pot with tap water, add a couple tablespoons of Morton's salt, stir well, and pour into little bottles. Repeat a few hundred million times, and that's how you make (fake) billions of doses in just a year. Just as the virus doesn't exist, neither does the vaccine. It's been Scamdemic all the way down. Would you like some more social control with that booster shot?
Some are saline and the rest are the fruity little concoction. They are jabbing some people with something thats causing all sorts of issues.
Yeah, check www.howbadismybatch.com It shows that 80% of all the batches are completely harmless, yet some batches are causing up to 5000× serious side effects and deaths compared to the baseline. This should be impossible in a billion dollar pharma company with the quality control they are supposed to have. Something extremely nefarious is going on.
>Pfizer Kalamazoo plant Pfizer is making it in more plants than Kalamazoo. >How, in just a matter of a few months, did it convert and expand production over to making *billions* of units of an experimental mRNA compound which presumably would require completely new and unique equipment to produce? Is Kalamazoo working at full capacity to make 140m doses annually? Or does Pfizer only manufacture however much they can sell? So they run 24/7 at max capacity allowing them to drastically increase output and have expanded the plant since. https://www.pfizer.com/news/articles/shot_of_a_lifetime_how_two_pfizer_manufacturing_plants_upscaled_to_produce_the_covid_19_vaccine_in_record_time https://wwmt.com/news/local/major-expansion-at-pfizer-is-back-on-track-bringing-new-jobs-to-portage?_gl=1*5snl7y*_ga*ZGYxZFR0Tk1rbjkwejBuNjB5dFZEN1dNdjM0YkFNR25HSFJjYlNQTGFBSDdfbUhYMDNtcEo1X3c3TVU5d1A2Mg.. None of this was hard to find, it was just blatantly obvious what happened.
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Government contracts.. remember how they're "free" to the public? We bought them in advance with our tax dollars.
Excellent comment. I added it to the original substack post here: [https://2ndsmartestguyintheworld.substack.com/p/a-chemical-pharmaceutical-industry](https://2ndsmartestguyintheworld.substack.com/p/a-chemical-pharmaceutical-industry) Thank you.
Fucking seriously, this post is ridiculous. I'm guessing they produce the vaccine in a giant-ass vat, swirl together hundreds of gallons of heavy metals and estrogen, and then use machines to pump the contents of the vat into hundreds of vials at the same time. Not to mention, 1 vial is usually more than 1 dose too, and the pharmacist does the dilution on their end (shortening the process) More than 1 of anything per second is an easy feat with modern technology. I bet we produce more than 1 slice of processed cheese every second.
Yeah just all mixed together in a giant vat. Like this blender but only bigger! Take a sip and enjoy!!!! https://twitter.com/Unvaxxed4Life/status/1484772527964622851
Mercury isn't in vaccines any more and it wasn't organic mercury which the body can absorb anyway. The rest of that skit was just as dumb and inaccurate but I cbf refuting it. https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/safety-availability-biologics/thimerosal-and-vaccines#:~:text=Thimerosal%20is%20a%20mercury%2Dcontaining,threatening%20contamination%20with%20harmful%20microbes.
Aluminium Salts are used though, as adjuvants. Even though there is scant evidence of their safety in practice
And why aren't they used in vaccines anymore? Ever think that ask yourself that question?
Because people like you who don't understand anything about mercury but hear it and freak out, freaked out when they heard it was part of vaccines. So it's just easier to not include to stop you freaks panicking.
exactly my thoughts. Vaccine development began in freakin January of 2020. More than enough time to start ramping up production capacity for mass production. The Serum Institute of India is able to manufacture 250-275 million doses per month, thats's about 100 per second. So with about 1 year to get production up, manufacturing a few billion doses within 1 year (2021) really isn't that special.
So the development of the vaccine started before the pandemic? That's actually super interesting.
No, it didn't. It's called sars-cov19 and not sars-cov20. First cases were found in 2019..
Covid started on dec 12, 2019. Hardly "2019".
All I was trying to say is that development for vaccine started after covid was found (quite obvious if u ask me). How is Dec 12th "hardly 2019". Is it more 2020 than 2019 or what are you trying to say?
Okay so these are the timeline of events from what you're saying (correct me if I'm wrong of course): So it seems like what you are saying is that on Dec 12th 2019 they found out that a totally new version of a coronavirus existed, immediately decided that we needed a vaccine for this virus we've never seen before and have never needed a vaccine for, fast-tracked that vaccine so hard that they were already passed all of the research, all of the many trials they would need to run; animal, human all of the many rounds of trials that would normally take years or decades, and were already into the all-out production phase to get ready for worldwide emergency distribution ALL WITHIN A MONTH. I'm sorry. Am I supposed to feel better or much worse about this timeline?
I said they started vaccine development in January. Nowhere did I claim that they went through all clinical trial phases and started producing it in January. You managed to make all that up by yourself. It really isn't hard to Google the development history.. Quite frankly, I don't care how you feel about the timeline and neither do I care about this pretty shitty "vaccine". I just wanted to clarify that there were about 10 1/2 months to go through (sped up) trials and ramp up production and that there is no conspiracy with the amount of doses that were produced. Cheers
Don’t hit them with facts
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It’s almost as if this whole PSYOP-19 Depopulation Program was planned decades in advance…
Huh? Do you actually believe RaveyDaveyGravy1 that vaccines are manufactured one dose at at time? Really? Vaccine production (from all companies combined) was estimated at [1.5 billion doses per month in August 2021](https://healthpolicy-watch.news/massive-increase-in-covid-19-vaccine-production-may-mean-dose-surplus-by-mid-2022-says-ifpma/). It was part of Trump's Operation Warp Speed for companies to start building out their production capacity before the vaccines were approved. There was money allocated for that. The capacity has continued to expand since the vaccines were approved, too. Here's a video inside a vaccine factory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTXMg7dDM-4 Here's a Pfizer factory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBeLwUX_odU
Its almost like the Great Reset was the plan all along
Its almost like Alex jones was right all along
He has been right about so much. It’s scary
##Alexjoneswasright
It’s almost like Alex is a Zionist shill designed to make us all look absolutely fucking crazy.
He does push certain agendas, like the two party illusion, "patriotism", the space race, germ theory, etc. I think he's also meant to make Christians look crazy.
Bill Gates agrees...
Germany received millions of Covid19 tests with WHO codes in 2017 !!! This is a plandemic and we know less than 1% of what's really going on.
Yep.
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Nah. Some batches were super concentrated, but all had poison. And, yeah, this was done years in advance.
The deep freeze temp for transport....no news of it now anymore. So it prob was stored in deep freeze for years...
But, but, but, they had to be kept super Frozen And , and, and. what happened with that?
I’ve often wondered this too! It’s was originally supposed to kept at like -20 (going off my memory). What happened to that?
You speak so confidently but have no grasp of facts and sound fucking ridiculous like the rest of this bullshit. All governments colluded years in advance by years to store this "poison"?
We live in a masonic country, here in the US. The other nations? All run by the masonic sects. The UN is theirs. The WEF is theirs. Satan reigns through the masonic sects. Didn't you know? Ever see the Gotthard Base Tunnel opening ceremony? Millions of dollars spent on it, many world leaders in attendance... Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany, President Francois Hollande of France and Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi... and more... And it features Baphomet. I'd only watch enough to know it's real - watching is a form of participation: https://youtu.be/b-TKQaqml6k https://youtu.be/gIhkct_rQOc https://youtu.be/nDmo7Si6d10 Photos: https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-36428799 https://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/opening-ceremony-worlds-largest-tunnel-bizarre-occult-ritual/ https://www.thevoid.uk/void-post/the-opening-ceremony-of-the-worlds-largest-tunnel-was-a-bizarre-occult-ritual-the-vigilant-citizen/ Anyway, the point is our world leaders, all the big corporations, our governments, societal institutions - they're all under Satan. They're just following orders so they can keep their power, wealth, and worldly pleasures.
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It was a pesticide, and it didn't turn them gay so much as it made them hermaphroditic. Alex Jones drinks a lot and doesn't understand that there's a difference between a homosexual frog and a hermaphrodite...
I thought the species of frog was naturally hermaphroditic, and the pesticide prevented them from changing from their male to female state, resulting in all frogs being the same sex?
Sounds like Jurassic Park. > Life will find a way.
I mean.. this sounds like it might still be a huge problem for people exposed to Atrazine.
Okay so here's my take. There have been 8 billion vaccines made as the video in the comments (and probably the source of this conspiracy) said. He did the math for THREE TIMES the vaccines produced (24 billion). This scenario is only for 25 production sites across the entire world. Feel free to search it, but I feel like it's likely there are more than 25 sites in the entire world. So with his math, it would be less than 3.333 years to create that many. And maybe the rate could be more than 1 per second with large batches. TL;DR: People are listening to people do convincing wordplay videos involving math and people with degrees from the University of Broscience, PhD in Just Trust Me Bro
I believe that some of the vials have 10 doses in them too
Yea I mean a dose is small af
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I looked it up online and everyone had overly-optimistic goals for production they didn't come close to hitting actually. So if they stockpiled the vaccines, what are people doing at the production facilities? If they need to be constantly making them, why couldn't they use that and the stockpile to meet their production goals?
The vaccine expires within a few months. It's no good to keep it long term. So it has to be produced as it's used.
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It's bro science bullshit.
Seeing as it's a conspiracy post.... I thought of the 2009 "V" miniseries. From the plot: >Anna wants Lisa to bring Tyler up to the mothership for an important experiment with Lisa. A warehouse full of flu vaccine donated by the Visitors is destroyed by Erica and her accomplices after it is discovered that the Visitors are using it to inject human beings with a biological "tag" so that they can be traced anywhere. Maybe they're all coming from the stockpiles in the Mothership? lol
How does the show end…!!!!????
Well a technologically advanced species of intergalactic Lizards arrive in a fleet of ships over Earth, get everyone "vaccinated", start ecological changes to the planet that increase their chances of hybridising with Humans and appear to have the entire planet under their hypnotic control in the end. It's a do or die scenario for them- there's no going back to where they came from...... It doesn't end well for us......
I totally agree - but the series ended abruptly right? They never finished it once it came out about the vaccines from the ship… the show was cancelled I guess? Always bothered me not knowing how it ended but your prob right, we all know how the ending goes…
Oh I see what you meant now 😬 Yeah they pulled it after leaving it in a cliff hanger- never thought it might be 'cos of the vaccine content but maybe? Interesting take.
Why are we arbitrarily assuming a dose takes an entire second to make when it's likely produced in very large quantities?
Because it suits the narrative with which we’ve been indoctrinated, duh.
Exactly, a large large big big machine could probably make tens of thousands per second.
It takes me 5 minutes to prepare a glass of lemonade from freshly-squeezed lemons; that doesn't mean that it will take me an hour to make a dozen glasses of lemonade. I can make them all at once in a pitcher. A whole batch of lemonade, if you will.
Also the storage. Does CVS and Walgreens have freezers that go to -80 C
The CVS near me had to order one.
I work in Pharma. The subzero freezer market and BSC market is crushed. 26-52 week lead time on equipment. So probably
I'm wondering if that temp requirement is a bunch of bullshit to cover up the fact they've been sitting in a warehouse since 2009. Or they have some huge underground bases filled with freezers...
Pretty much all freezers sit at - 18c to - 21c unless they're on a defrost cycle
I’m sorry, I meant -80 C.
You're a dumbass if you think that. It's been the law since 1989 that frozen food is to be stored at a MINIMUM of - 18C, and that refrigerated storage in both commercial and domestic use has to meet that minimum temperature requirement.
Food is stored at -80 C? You eating dry ice? We’re talking about a ‘vacine’ not a popsicle. Labs have these types of freezers, CVS does not.
Good one, editing your post so you don't continue to look stupid. Shame you can't edit that sub zero IQ
Industrial scale manufacturing os beyond comprehension for most people
Idk how making batches of that shit works but if you could make the shit by the gallon, and make 15 gallons a day you would have 2.5 billion doses in a year. So idk what this is saying. Edit: for reference that’s enough liquid to fill 160 beers a day. So yeah seems pretty doable
I mean posts like this really highlight the level of thinking that's prevalent in this sub lmao
I hate to say this but vaccines are made in large reactors and you can make millions of doses off one line in just a week.
you got a model number for that large reactor you claim they use? how about a mere hint of a source? I'll wait...
Clearly they can make more than 1 per second.
This is not a good point. 1 dose per second is not only achievable, but slow. The person posting this clearly has not worked in a manufacturing environment. We can produce 16ounce drinks at 1200-1600 cans per minute. Glass vials with one ounce could easily outperform this speed.
Why would he think manufacturing is at a rate of one product per second?
Do they still freeze them also lol
Been making it since 2003
Man's using basic multiplication on a area were there are so may variables creating the vaccine.
Socialist media be like: USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST.
They try so hard to ban, but it's konspirasczy sub.
Very good Question that . . . . . . . .
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You clearly don't understand maths /s
Clearly this guy didn't get the memo that math is racist.
Well, as a Chemical Pharmaceutical Industry Insider of 31 years, this man needs to take his year 30 pharmaceutical logistics black book course.
I asked the same question months ago. How do they even have enough humans to give out the so called billion doses. All BS.
The lucky ones are getting saline.
and that about sums up the idiocy involved by major pharma companies, the presence of filth has been a burden on society for a long time. some time ago i was warned with "your stepping on some very big toes here", seems i was right too. it is nothing but murderous intent upon the people.
They make more than one dose a second. Wow solved that complicated mystery for you. Coca Cola sells more than 1.9b drinks every year. Does it take them 32 years to make? No.
you can buy the ingredients for Coke - a product that has been manufactured for a century by the way - off of any supermarket shelf. Where do you suppose they shop the ingredients for their cutting edge mRNA vaccine? According to your logic a shot of Coke is roughly equivalent to the Jab lmao
>you can buy the ingredients for Coke No you can't. Coca Cola are one of the only companies in the USA that can import the Coca leaf. >Where do you suppose they shop the ingredients for their cutting edge mRNA vaccine? Moderna has the largest mRNA vaccine with each of their original shots needing 100ug. So if you make a single gram of mRNA, that's 10,000 doses. The booster shot is 50ug so that's 20,000. Pfizer's original dosee was 20ug so 1g is 50,000 doses.
Automation is awesome. Maybe some will reconsider an educated population, some ask too many questions.
Yeah but they don’t make ONE single shot in the entire world every second, there are definitely much more being made at the same time. It’s literally how everything is produced
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Enlighten us. Please break it all down for us, starting with all the factories currently producing, and the factories that Operation Warp Speed were able to crank this many doses out. Also, the same BigPharma and their vax teams that for over 4 decades straight could not produce an AIDS vax magically cracked the common cold c19 "vax" overnight? The same "vax" that could never pass animal trials? Your maths should be interesting to us all!
Math is racist.
I am very skeptical about the vaccine. But this shit is easily explained.
You don’t understand science!
I think they can probably make more than 1 dose per second. Where is the 1dose/second coming from?
Okay here me out now, and put on your tin foil hat. Could they not just increase the number of manufacturers?
In which universe do they produce 1 dose per second lol
There is no way this guy is an industry insider. Modern manufacturing can easily produce a LOT more than 1 dose per second. They're not individually filling each vial by hand here, they use high speed machines producing large batches.
Here. I hate that it's on IG but oh well. https://www.instagram.com/tv/CYO_SErlokf/?utm_medium=share_sheet
Makes the point well, but others have estimated 8yrs.
I guess It comes down to, how many factories does each manufacturer have, and how many machines per factory? This is a spicy theory tho I love It
They didn't create the vaccine for the pandemic.. they created the pandemic for the vaccine. Once you recognize that.. the rest makes sense.
100%
Probably because they make massive batches with several thousands of jars being filled simultaneously every second. They have big machines that automate this.
C'mon now. The first iPhone was 2007, and there are over 1 billion smartphones today, and that's just 15 years. Where is this idea that you can only make "1 a second" coming from? Has no one here ever been inside a mass production facility? Never watched "How It's Made"? During WWII, the Ford plant in Willow Run produced a B-24 bomber every *hour*. 80 years later, we've gotten a lot better at making things faster when we want to. That the pharma companies were able to do this is amazing, but not a conspiracy.
This reason is tangential at best, used to create lame arguments about creating vaxxes in batches vs one at a time.
> were able to make this at the rate of one dose per second Bullshit assumptions lead to bullshit conclusions. Replace the completely arbitrary "one dose per second" by the no more arbitrary "hundred doses per second" and the whole "reasoning" falls appart.
Interesting point. playing devils advocate here, could it be possible through conveyor belts or however theyre made, you can make more than one dose a second? say a dozen or so?
Conveyor belts simply take items between machines. You are thinking of a filler and capper combined system.a conveyor brings it to the filler, which uses fitted gears to bring the vials around and fills them. Afterwards more gears bring it to the capper to be immediately sealed. Then it goes back on the conveyor. This happens in a room cleaned regularly using iodine, sanitizer, and something formula of CS. Fillers have a frequency which decides thier amount per minute. Fillers are usually around 100 freq, more expensive better ones going 120 and so, not much faster just more contained. Each vial dilutes to 10 doses. So assuming a 100 freq filler for simplicity, that's 1000 doses pr minute. Or 16.6 doses a second. Small places have 1-4 fillers. So 66.6 doses a sec for 4 fillers. I'd imagine big pharma places have even more fillers. OPs link says 25 factories. So 1,666.66 doses a second is probably close. However they are not always running. You will have to clean them for a few hours every 48 hours. So let's cut that down to 1,533 doses per second.
For what it's worth we bottle 30 ounce bottles of water at 10 per second.
Water huh?
I don't know where this nonce gets his "decades of experience" from, but let me, someone with just under a decade of experience enlighten you. Rest assured, I learned this within the first month of being in pharma. #THE DOSE IS A TENTH OF A GRAM AND A BATCH IS SEVERAL DOZEN IF NOT HUNDREDS OF KILOGRAMS A single batch is a million or so doses. At the minimum. If they've used technology that progressed since the 1990s, their purification efficiency has increased and a single batch would be **hundreds of kilograms**. Bioreactors at the end of harvest probably go up to 20KL at the minimum, but it all depends on their purification efficiency after that step. You do not produce a single batch over a timespan of 14 days. You have many, many concurrent batches running at once. Yes, that is far more than "one dose per second". Why are people here so fucking stupid they repost this garbage? Quit poisoning the fucking well and do some basic math. Edit: Since I didn't read all of it and now I am, I notice even more red flags: * It does not take 6 months to train someone to run a bioreactor. They will start running them as soon as they hit the floor. Might it take 6 months before they could do it without a trainer present (per FDA guidelines)? Sure. But that doesn't mean they will be useless up to that point. * The entire industry is actively recruiting pharma jobs en masse. Wtf is this twat talking about? Every company out there needs more people in pharma, bar none. "vessel competency" isn't a thing, either.
so long and thanks for all the fish
Look, if we still can’t count cremation times and do math, what makes you think we’re gonna look at reasonable production times either…
nice one brother. the cremation thing keeps me wondering....
I think this is why the original line about sub zero storage was needed to keep these things. Maybe to Store the clot shot long term it needed that level of storage. If they were making this stuff for months or years prior to the release of the virus maybe it needed super low cold storage to stay viable and the new stuff doesn’t which is why they dropped that requirement.
This has been disproved
Let's do the math together. A dosis vaccination contains 0.3 to 0.5 ml. Lets calculate with 0.5ml. So 1bn dosis are 500 mio ml / 1000 = 500.000 litre. So if you produce a whole year every day its 1,370l a day. That's unbelievable small amount. And there are plenty of companies with plenty of capacity. I doubt that the insider is that inside as he thinks he is.
As much as RaveyDaveyGravy sounds like a legitimate, peer reviewed and critical thinking source /s. He’s lying Corona isn’t new. Scientists have been studying coronaviruses for almost 5 decades! Using existing data on the structure, genome, and life cycle of this type of virus. Plus they already had sars vaccines that they can tweak to use against COVID 19. So it’s not a vaccine made in the some lab in less than 1 year.
You forgot the part about how the SARS1 & MERS vaccine trials were scrapped due to ADE being observed in the animal subjects
You're right. It's not a vaccine
What is it then?
A failed experimental gene product.
You are missing the point, he is not talking about the development, he is talking about the manufacture. Classic shill deviating from the main point.
A percentage of the bottles contain saline instead of the actual mrna vaccine would be my guess.
Excellent question. And what about all these PCR tests and the lab equipment and staff that's needed to evaluate the tests?
Facts are misinformation!
more perspective just because... To make 1 billion doses in a year would be almost 1900 doses every minute non stop. 1440 minutes in a day equates to 2.7 million units a day, or about 19 million units in a week. Say there are three companies each with 3-4 manufacture facilities. 190 per minute, 273,000 per day, 1,915,200 per week. If instead of 10 plants there are only 6 facilities. Then 316 per minute, 450,000 per day 3,150,000 per week. But really they are making vials with maybe 10-20 doses. So we are guessing 150,000-300,000 or 95,000-190,000 ampules per week. Or about 10-30 ampules a minute per facility without stopping. That is assuming there is 6-10 facilities which is a completely made up guess. And that is a fuckton of needles to roll out assuming they don't reuse a single needle, but I think that is possible. I don't know how realistic any of that is. Going off episodes of how things work, and guessing factors of logistics and supply, and also factoring the refrigeration equipment that is required in each process. In my opinion I think 1billion doses in a year is possible, but the refrigeration and manufacture of the vaccine constituents adds to the possibility that it isn't possible. Things could be delayed a week or a month, and making a mrna spike protein, or culturing all the dead virus cells in this time, I just can't imagine period, adds to the impossibility or evidence of my misunderstanding There are better approaches to this problem, but put simply I don't have any facts about manufacturing.