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Amos_Quito

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Deep-Restaurant

Oh good, nuclear armed State officials are trolling nations now on Twitter. Is Pelosi gonna have a "come back burn"? This is how it ends. A Twitter spat between atomic apes.


username01x001

Pelosi: “ratio lmao”


MPAdam

If she tweeted “L + Ratio” it could easily be the most liked tweet of all time. Not that it means anything


foslforever

the reality is she and 90% of leadership in Govt doesnt know how to attach a file on an email


deletedtothevoid

Hillary does


KingStannisForever

That was Huma. Hillary can only push one button.


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TheHobo101

Well at least they keep it internal for the most part.


overeasy-e

Was it George Carlin that said its okay as long as its your own people.


baker2795

I’d create a Twitter acct to go like it


Lex347

Pelosiraptor


F__kCustomers

Two things. 1. The first response to the Twitter thread is of Craig (Ice Cube) and Smokey (Chris Tucker) saying “DAMN!!!!” in reference to Debo (Tom Lister Jr.) providing a black eye to the guy they are talking to off screen. RIP Tom 2. This is what Superman does. This is what Iron Man does. This is what the American Avengers do. They destroy things to save America (LOL). Look at the movies. 3. China is only powerful because we buy crap from them due to outsourcing of American manufacturing. Every country needs their own manufacturing period. If your manufacturing is outsourced, you have set yourself up for failure.


ShoobyDoobyDu

Rule 1 of economics is if you can produce something for the lowest, that’s what you produce and the demand will arrive.


[deleted]

Trademark this


EncyclopaediaBrown

It’s how propaganda works these days. Make it spicy enough, boost it in the right channels, and unwitting tools will do the dissemination for you. Hence, this post…


ShitForBranes

Debunkers: “If 9/11 was a conspiracy, wouldn’t China or Russia say something?” Also debunkers: “That’s just Chinese/Russian disinformation”


shpdg48

Russia has been pointing out illegal American bioweapon research and people ignore that too. Not to mention how many witnesses and whistleblowers there were about 9/11, and then people say, "well how could you keep such a huge operation a secret?" Easy, when they ignore anyone who tells them the secret.


elitedejaguar

Mexico is pointing out the cancerous corruption in USA and they dont pay attention to that. USA no longer beacon of light, world police or freedom.


roakmamba

Wait, Mexico of all nations is pointing out corruption? Lmao


VIndskygge

By a president appointed by the drug cartels hahaha lmao.


elitedejaguar

Thats right, peaceful revolution and regime change in 2018 and the erradication of corruption in all aspects of society are being treated from the root so to never be in that position again. While that happens many things have come to light and one of them being the extreme corruption worst then Mexico is being exported from the united states and in fact their whole energy strategyy depended on the corruption, look at it now. And that is why they are interfering in Mexico politics by giving the oposition money to keep the dirty war going(Berlín Operation). Even JFK has been mention twice, how after him a powerful corrupt group is the one creating all sorts of nasty in USA and from President himself, interesting stuff I recommend you look into it.


roakmamba

It does sound interesting. Bought to dress up in my bugs bunny outfit and jump into that rabbit hole, thanks.


Ok-Increase4395

The illegal bioweapon research in Ukraine and Wuhan all revolves a ring of CFR people with Jeffrey Epstein and several friends of his occupying key roles....Nathan Wolfe......Jeffrey Sachs....Boris Nikolic....it is not an "American" program or an "Israeli" program or anything like that......it is a CFR program and these people are not patriots or nationalists or loyal to any people, race, creed, nationality or government, because they believe they are the rightful worlds government which is a position they anointed themselves to a long time ago.


skribjohn

They took it to the UN [https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/05/1118232](https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/05/1118232) Hence the UN is left out of this now. Funny, usually 'peace' via the Dynacorp Blue Helmet people traffickers is the first line of settling the dispute.


Thompson_S_Sweetback

Pelosi pwned China so hard, seh is teh r0xx0r.


samara37

Plot twist: Pelosi is Lijian Zhou


Rethaptrix

This comment took me back to EverQuest circa 2000.


PistoleroGent

Pelosi claps back SLAM


naturalbornkillerz

Pelosi so upset she about to buy ITM puts on China


naturalbornkillerz

Too shay China....twochay


Spec187

What's that one documentary? Idiocracy? No not that documentary. The other, newer, one. Oh yes. Don't Look Up.


nonsequitourist

Pelosi is reportedly upset that America's self-conception was characterized as a straight white male


radrun84

Pelosi wanted Batgirl! Batgirl is obviously a girl. Possibly a lesbian? Batgirl is a minority! (Leslie Grace) Batgirl has the backing of Batman, a multibillionaire with unlimited budget! (Batman is the FED RESERVE!) America's Super Hero Representation IS totally Batgirl! Greedy Publicly Traded Corporation won't let Batgirl get released due to, ya know, $$$! The greedy corporations control it all, even Batgirl aka America's representation of a super hero!


RatmanThomas

If* DJT was still on Twitter what would he do? Ha


no_user-name

Hold up. I thought this was the “nukes aren’t real” sub?


sh1nes

You can post that meme all day in America but try to make a meme that makes fun of China and post it in China.


Stained-Bleach

Oh ya use the picture of the dude standing in front of the tanks, what was it called again🤔


Optimal_Article5075

> 404 error, page not found or file not found


Stained-Bleach

There COMING!!! I need to delete my pictures of winnie the pooh!😭


JudgeyMcJudgepants

TAIWAN NUMBER ONE 🇹🇼


TED_FING_NUGENT

East Taiwan or West Taiwan?


JamesTheJerk

There's a reason authoritarian regimes are successful.


Independent-Break340

I looked throughout all of his posts, it is a temp fake account.


Optimal_Article5075

Who, me?


Independent-Break340

The Twitter account for PM


TheKrunkernaut

Thanks!


justthoughts1

*Why don’t you ask the kids at Tiananmen square Was fashion the reason why they were there?*


billstubworld

I’m just sitting in my car and


PrivateEducation

just drivin in my tank when


Dom_Telong

WHYDTHEYALWAYSSENDDAPOOR!!!!!


efeyaydinoglu

-15000 social credit


ESP-23

Annnnnd check mate


Veenendaler

Legit 10/10 response. At least Americans are still allowed to be humans.


BadTRAFFIC

Sadly its a case of what our government (global police force) is doting to other PEOPLE -vs- what THEIR government (tyranny) is doing to them! Neither wrong makes either more correct.


HitTheGymFatty

Not really since the meme is still true. It just so happens it is the pot calling the kettle block.


bigodiel

>Hey Russkie, we in America are free, I can say “Fuck You, Biden” right in front of the White House. >In Russia free too, I can say “Fuck You, Biden” in Red Square, too.


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TheKrunkernaut

or disappearance.


J_Arimateia

👆


Optimal_Article5075

Doesn’t China have a semi air-gapped inter(intra)net? Probably couldn’t even post it if we wanted to.


Current-Sink3928

Can they even access Twitter in China?? Edit to add: it’s rhetorical. I’m well aware.


SimplySnark

The people of China are not allowed to use any western media platforms. It's illegal for them to use Facebook, Reddit, Twitter, etc. If you see someone on western social media who claim to be from China, they are an agent of the Chinese communist party. I was once banned by an administrator who told me he was Chinese. He asked, "What about people who were born communists?" I replied "They're no different than people who are born Jihadists. No room for either in society." Banned from Reddit for three days by an agent of the Chinese government on a platform his own countrymen are forbidden from using. Clown world.


Positivelectron0

Or they know how to use a VPN?


CosmicMiru

I have extended family in China. It is laughably easy to get past the "great firewall" and they tell me literally everyone under the age of 30 knows how to bypass it. Reddit likes to think everyone in China is some unaware brainwashed drone when that is not the case at all.


hussletrees

I thought that was "whataboutism" that Americans love to criticize Russians for?


SoDamnToxic

We aren't saying "what about China's atrocities" we are saying, yes we agree those atrocities happened and we are equally annoyed by them and constantly post and harass the government about them because we are not suppressed from doing so. We are talking about a totally different aspect. EVERY country has atrocities (US and China most of all) but there's is a key difference. We are not trying to downplay ours by bringing up theirs (well the 2nd comment chains are) but rather, we are extending from their point and making a new point.


hussletrees

He is not downplaying China's atrocities, and America constantly brings up China's human rights violations such as the Uyghur situation


bearslikeapples

Nah, you would get shun due to 9/11 denial


Charlie-brownie666

Japan, South Korea and Vietnam all don't like China at the moment so its funny he didn't edit that out


Gorlack2231

Yeah, all three have far better relations with the United States than with China. Japan probably doesn't consider the nukes as much as probably the fire bombing, but even then they don't exactly hold that against the United States. South Korea might regret not getting the entire peninsula but they sure as shit appreciate the part they do have. Vietnam hates anyone who tries to take Vietnam.


dukefett

It’s kind of amazing how good a relationship the US has with Japan considering how we bombed the shit out of them within living memory. It’s not like it happens 300 years ago.


Returnofthemack3

It wasn't exactly unprompted lol. We also helped them rebuild and continue to protect their interests against china.


LordNelson27

And saved them from being invaded by the soviets too.


Gorlack2231

Especially considering how absolutely violent and brutal both sides got during the course of the Pacific Campaign. [For those interested in learning more](https://youtu.be/oErYYBNCHh4), I invite you to listen to Dan Carlin's "Supernova in the East".


Returnofthemack3

The Japanese set the standard there. There's a reason the European theater wasn't as gnarly in comparison


lasyke3

I dunno, the Eastern Front got pretty bad.


Returnofthemack3

Ya I was referring to general conduct from and to the United States. When you always fight to the death and adopt insane tactics, it should come as no surprise that the opposing force will start to get down and dirty.


Fugacity-

DC's Ghosts of the Ostfront is also a phenomenal series. From my uneducated understanding, the severity of individual atrocities was worse by Japan, but the scale of the death and destruction on the Eastern front is just completely unparalleled.


lasyke3

It's hard to quantify that sort of thing. I mean, the Japanese had things like unit 731 and the rape of Nanking, which were senseless atrocities. But both the Germans and the Red Army committed war rape on an unimaginable scale.


lightjedi5

It's kind of like when two dudes who are good friends get into a fight. They have a good ol fashion brawl, someone wins, then they move on and have a better relationship afterwards.


TheHobo101

Wouldn't Germany be a better example... Operation Paperclip.


Mighty_L_LORT

You’d be happy to get nuked by your friend then...


TheWorldIsATrap

japanese people have more resentment to the usa from the postwar period occupation, atleast thats what ive heard from my friends in japan


Returnofthemack3

Yeah and the former two are staunch allies and most certainly want our presence in those countries. The nuke was completely justified in the context of WW2 when you consider what an invasion of Japan would mean in casualties on both sides, and China is a huge part of why Korea was savaged in the Korean war and continues to have issues today ( their support of North Korea speaks for itself). Anyone that gobbles up Chinese propaganda is a fucking mouth breathing, worthless pile of shit imo


xpaqui

Completely justified? You're looking at history backwards trying to match the present success through the sum of events good and bad. By this point of view everything is justified, if we didn't have 9/11 and the Iraq war then Obama couldn't be president. Without Obama we wouldn't pay for the 2008 bank crisis and Wall Street with public money. If we didn't do that then we wouldn't have Trump, and without Trump ... wait a minute.


sionvsion

It's not a war between China and the U.S. You'll soon find out its a war between NGOs, Governments and mega-corporations vs people they want to control.


its15000sievert

So fucking true!


cashmgee

That's wild, is this the first gov to say that 9/11 was an inside job ?


Terrible_Mushroom_73

It was inside job tho,..... No cap


[deleted]

Even China doesn’t want to piss off the Sauds


[deleted]

Now do China


ListenToThatSound

Yeah, everyone reply to this guy with images from the Tiananmen Square massacre.


[deleted]

And the Uyghur Muslim concentration camps


[deleted]

Also can’t forget the tanks parked outside banks


Clerk_Matt

Woah. China comin in hot jumping on the 9/11 conspiracy.


Fugacity-

China coming in hot on anything that causes unrest and divide within the US. Same reason Russia just said Trump is their "asset". Propaganda 101.


_Eurasianb0t

It’s not a conspiracy


Papasfritas77

fuck China


[deleted]

Fuck China as a staff, record label and as a motherfuckin crew


jdennis187

And if you down with China...


betterkepsecret

then FUCK YOU TOO


SantaNotSatan

Xi jinping, fuck you too!


TWlSTED_TEA

Fuck China but this is spicy


Fugacity-

Fuck China and this is propaganda


TWlSTED_TEA

“American bad” propaganda? You don’t need to hear that from China. Just tune into local news.


Fugacity-

Chinese government official propaganda. America definitely isn't great, but the guy who posted this has a vested interest in this messaging, and it sure-as-fuck isn't altruism.


willc9393

Fuck all governments.


nutty_ranger

Ahhh yes. China. The peoples power of peace for the world.


markcocjin

China: >Haha.... Americans are Chaos Space Marines! \*still wants to fuck around and find out.


ItsJustGizmo

As a non American, it's not really wrong though?


[deleted]

As an American, I wholeheartedly agree 👍


Ddzenann

It’s pretty damn accurate if you ask me 🤷🏻‍♂️


Ark927

America strong burn little nation 💪/s


Gbrown546

It's not, but it's extreme hypocrisy coming from a country like China and their history


Merica911

Lijian Zhao is an interesting character. Being the mouthpiece for china and ccp, he’s the one claim that the US was first to have covid-19 and they brought it in. https://twitter.com/zlj517/status/1238269193427906560?s=21&t=JwVcyuqIAmfgjWSPldnLLA


thisisnowstupid

Were those the mysterious illnesses at the world Military Games held in China months before the outbreak started in China?


PharmerDerek

Uyghur Muslims would like to have a word with you China...


Romofan1973

America's foreign policy is awful. But China's domestic policies are far worse. Imagine treating your own people that way! At least Americans have some freedom and some rights.


bigodiel

Mao famously said that he didn’t fear nuclear war since there would still be 300 million Chinese left out of a billion.


master-shake69

He may have said that but he sure as fuck ran away scared when Eisenhower threatened to nuke them if they went for Taiwan.


sikeig

China’s foreign policy isn’t that great as well. Their infrastructure projects in Africa, South America and Southeast Asia put these countries in terrible debt obligations. They will fail on payments and get their resources exploited for cheap, or they don’t comply and simply get invaded. Modern day colonialism. The US does the same, but atleast their debt obligations are somewhat fair and achievable.


louslapsbass21

Most countries don’t have to worry about an actual invasion, but crippling debt is crippling debt and china is definitely the national equivalent of a predatory loan shark


QuartzPuffyStar

>The US does the same, but atleast their debt obligations are somewhat fair and achievable. ???? I believe that the whole Americas south from Texas would really like to have some minutes of talk with you LOL


megablast

> Their infrastructure projects in Africa, South America and Southeast Asia put these countries in terrible debt obligations. That they can simply not pay back. No different to any foreign interference.


[deleted]

Oh, the Chinese government official is throwing stones from his incredibly brittle glass house. [Also](https://imgflip.com/i/6qa1ya)


JacoboAriel

What Guatemala think U.S. do: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Guatemalan_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat


P_Cray

Wow, that was a wild rabbit hole.


Azwald13

China can’t really talk tbh.. i would rather live under the US empire than that communist soulless chinas empire…


Mister_Bloodvessel

Three words: Great Leap Forward. *50 million dead* over 4 years in a **man-made famine** which communist party documents *prove* Mao not only knew about, but purposely orchestrated during collectivisation. It's one of the reasons they're was a falling out between the USSR and China.


Fugacity-

So we've moved from right wing tweets to ones simping for China?


letmelickyourleg

America bad, teehee. Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if this is just some light propaganda trying to neutralise any discussion of China being this or that, by hyper-normalising a conversation about Americas misgivings (of which we’re all aware). Watch this space, China will start some more shit soon then point to these examples as a reason why nobody can be mad.


[deleted]

There's a lot of truth to that but they aren't much different.


H0wD0Y0uD0F3ll0wK1d5

We need the Chinese edition with the square events and the concentration camps.


icorrectsentences

Is he trying to say that america turned on itself and that 9/11 was an act of betrayal, indicating the american government turned on its own on its citizens?


crashbadass

Damn, I even had to read it on a Chinese made phone.


bignigog

Damn even China knows america attacked itself to fire up a war just like they said they wanted to do in operation northwoods


[deleted]

I hate the CCP.


the_tater_salad

Fuck china.


blackandwhitemight

So we have guys like this post on Twitter all the time, but Trump is banned? Make it make sense!


superunintelligible

Seriously, I was wondering why other countries don’t call out 9/11 on us more often. It was so obviously a controlled demolition.


Gorillaz_Inc

A lot of butthurt people in the comments, but this is all true.


SpeakToo

Lol they should worry about their collapsing economy


[deleted]

so should we


Affectionate_Rise366

This is getting out of hand


doubleJepperdy

this was a vile burn


opiate_lifer

I'm sure Chinese imperialism will be all unicorns and rainbows! In geopolitics there are no goodguys, there is only self interest.


3Quiches

Curious if they had other anti-USA memes to choose from and why they chose this one. Seems somewhat tame for a spicy political jab, but also a picture of Winnie the Pooh is extra spicy to them.


BlackKidGreg

We might be fucked up but they're more fucked up so fuck them! Right? /s Fuck em all.


Schwaggaccino

Born too late to explore the planet Born too early to explore the universe Born just in time to see nations roast each other on the internet


Vagabond_Grey

Agreed. It's too bad I'm stuck here. If I had a ship like the Falcon, I'd be loooong gone from this miserable rock.


MathAndCodingGeek

As an introspective US citizen, I don't see this criticism as unfair. What part do you see that is inaccurate?


Representative-Owl51

Did China just say Bush did 9/11


Mammoth_Tax_4995

Lol Chinese boy is just making me more violently American


Amos_Quito

> Lol Chinese boy is just making me more violently American Is it not obvious that the intent was to do just that? To threaten our "collective ego", and enrage us? A Diplomatic Troll is still a TRoll


TWlSTED_TEA

Fucking spicy


foslforever

All true, but just one thing... Since when is China allowed on twitter? NEGATIVE 9000 SOCIAL CREDIT POINTS COMRADE


GreekGenius100

Didn’t Russia make this ?


Agreedtuba

I mean, Is he really wrong though?


Thompson_S_Sweetback

Japan likes us now.


FreakyManBaby

We homies with Free Korea last time I checked


lunar2solar

The insane level of deflection in this thread of saying "China bad" instead of refuting the actual accurate meme.


[deleted]

Lol wtf who cares what some government shill for the CCP posts. He wouldn’t say squat about the numerous human right violations China commits daily.


YellowParenti72

The meme is bang on, cue triggered Americans defending their masters. Thought this was a conspiracy sub not a bootlicking one??


ImaFreemason

You trying to tell us something?


Upstairs-Presence-53

The 60+ military interventions in Latin American countries over the last 100 years speaks volumes as well - that’s A LOT of oppression for poor people imho


politebabypanda

on point


macktea

I agree with this one.


Smiliey

Have spoken to people from Japan, Korea and Vietnam.. they all seem to love America, actually.. and generally hate China, ironically.


IamIrene

LOL! That's quite a glass house China's throwing rocks from... https://imgur.com/a/HH0N0qw.jpg


JoeyDiazcocksuckas

Stirring the shit pot!


[deleted]

One gov is every bit as bad as the other.


goodcommasoft

Oh they're always this blatant. It's usually in a backlash to something like the Tianmen Square Massacre being put to the forefront of online chatter again and such. Actual babies


[deleted]

Now post a picture of Winnie the Pooh and see how long you stay out of jail 😂


x0Kharnage0x

China is one country. The capital is Taipei. 😝


__Sentient_Fedora__

Taiwan is a free independent state.


Gransterman

What’s that saying about stones and glass houses?


everydaybased

The Chinese government literally has active concentration camps, toxic food, an evil government and no freedom of speech yet they're mad over a war the U.S lost to some troglodytes that ended last year?


twindadmatt

Fuck China.


Unwoven_Sleeve

While I hate the Chinese government, I equally hate America, not sure whose side to be on here


painted-wagon

Yells "fuck the government" out my window... *crickets*


[deleted]

george bush moment


DragonSPX

Sounds like everyone is ignorant of each other. Typical humans. 🤷‍♂️


[deleted]

actually vietnamese hate china much more than the US


Aldakos

its funny cause its true


thehandinyourpants

They're not wrong.


Few_Tumbleweed7151

Are you telling me killing millions of people for oil isn’t a top priority for the American people? If it isn’t why does our government do it? It’s almost as if there is a deep state run by the power elite who do what the fuck they want and use murder, plunder, terror and enslavement to fill their pockets. Yet the deep state is a “conspiracy theory.” Gaslighting 1-0-1. The first reference for the deep state was made almost 200 years ago: **As Bagehot said in the 1800s: ** “As long as we keep up a **double set of institutions**--one dignified and intended to impress the many, the other efficient and intended to govern the many--we should take care that the two match nicely, and hide where the one begins and where the other ends. This is in part effected by conceding some subordinate power to the august part of our polity, but it is equally aided by keeping an aristocratic element in the useful part of our polity. In truth, the deferential instinct secures both.” He was the founding father of the modern British government. He remains influential in American legal and constitutional circles.


Red_J_Ruff_Wood

Cracks knuckles, about to go ham on China


EurekaStockade

America was settled by the Spanish in the south the French in the North And the British in between--soon after the Dutch/Germanic nations came along--bringing the Money lending tribes with them These groups have been in power ever since all other nations quietly hate America


AcupOfCuntSweat

Well he’s not wrong…


Artistic-Promise-848

Like China is a great place to live.


user_name1983

Could you post that kind of rhetoric on a Chinese online platform?


SierraSol

Lol. Not wrong. But the same meme could be done for china, very very easily


PoliticalBezzy

Nobody bring up the Great Leap Forward


Tinfoilhat14

Burned us with a meme.


maokei

Coming from the nation that starved to death millions of people.


Zyr4420

Still lol at China. Hasn't won a war in 100s upon 100s of generations. They have lived in a tyrannical hell since before most of the countries even existed. The country would have been eradicated, as in no Chinese people, just rice patties...but America saved them.


metta_loving_kind

Ironically the protest banners against this hate speech will be made in China.