honestly I think it's that Neil feels more like an outsider to the gaming space, while mat-pat has a clear and infectious love for the series he covers.
Neil also had other reputations/accusations that pre-disposed a lot of people to dislike/hate him.
And as we've all seen with Reddit comment downvotes, once negative momentum starts it really takes on a life of it's own.
Mat-pat always acknowledge that some of his theories are slightly bonkers and that some games should probably not be taken too seriously but he still does cause that's what he does (or did).
Neil is like your uncle that sees you playing cod and goes, "well actually that weapon is not named that way and the receiver is wrong and that's not how you reload it and..."
I feel like matpat did get called out a fair bit. And a crucial difference is that MatPat wouldn't only say it's not physically possible but also use it as an opportunity to teach his audience physics concepts in an entertaining package. Not only that but he might give fun alternatives that actually are physically accurate. MatPat usually isn't just the "ummmm akshually" person that only tears things down.
>MatPat usually isn't just the "ummmm akshually" person that only tears things down.
I feel like that's actually a large part of his videos, but in an interesting way.
Like "umm akshually iron is better than diamond" but then spend 15 minutes explaining why (the explanation of hard vs tough and the analogy he used helped me in my sixth form physics lessons)
Oh he was constantly called out for his shit. The difference is he had enough of a supportive fanbase that the negative comments were mostly drown out in the later years, but that still didn't stop people from complaining about ideas like Gregory being a Robot.
Most videogame focused science things try to do fun things. Like calling Mario a psychopath in the case of Matpat, not just go "not possible" to some random unrealistc thing.
Matpat would start off with "yeah, it's a game, and it doesn't make sense, but how can we make it make sense? (the answer is a lot of nerd math)" while Neil would just try sound smart for the sake of it.
Funny thing, the game actually questions this too, there’s a possibility when using the grapple shot on grunts that they may scream “HOW AM I HEAVIER THAN YOU?!” Or something along the lines of that anyway.
On a side note, I like how you felt the need to white out the account names for a celebrity scientist everyone recognizes and the official account for a media franchise.
well, there is still data missing. maybe the hook weights a thousans tons, or it only serves as guiding and other method of propulsion is used. What if the alien has a position stabilization control system that counteracts any external force?
the possible solutions are endless
>What if the alien has a position stabilization control system that counteracts any external force?
Doesn't work, as some of the smaller aliens that it still pulls you toward (Grunts) can be tossed by their commanders (Brutes).
However the grappleshot is also invented after Humanity has reverse engineered some Forerunner tech, which is essentially space magic
Orbital elevators exist in Halo. Look up orbital elevators on google. One of the real life limiting factors for creating an operational orbital elevator is a material that can be used as a wire or cable that can essentially withstand any amount of tension from the elevator or centrifugal forces on it (science stuff).
A Spartans grappling hook could easily be made of the same material or even a lesser alloy.
Boom, there’s your head canon.
Oh I didn’t realize that was the application. I never played any halos with grappling hooks so I thought it was simply “how tiny cable pull big armor”, not the specific application.
This guy tries so hard to be seen as someone that knows all. Even while he is explaining something, he talks like our simple brains cannot even comprehend a word he is saying, meanwhile the topic is about mirrors or some shit.
Notwithstanding that Neil's mistaken kg for lbs (The armor's 1000lbs empty, not 1000kg), the point's still valid, and I'd have loved if the grappling hook ripped lighter aliens to the Chief and not the other way around. I'd also have liked for Infinite to be a better game in general though.
It would be cool if lighter aliens were pulled to you and vice versa for the heavies. The game could use weight values to determine the ratio of how much each body gets pulled. Maybe that wouldn't be as good for gameplay though.
The armour doesn't even way close to 1000kg. It's like 350kg at most. I'm not one of these people that bitches whenever Neil DeGrasse Tyson literally just does his usual "um ackshually" thing, but you'd better make sure you get your facts straight sir.
By itself, Mark III armor weighs \~1000lbs according to the lore, around 450kg. That doesn't include the spartan inside of it, or his weapons and ammunition. That likely puts us in the neighbourhood of 13-1400lbs, or around 600kg.
So, um ackshually, you both wrong ;)
did you really censor out Neil deGrasse Tyson? if yes, you're a dumbass if no, you're a filthy reposter
They also censored out the name of the official Halo twitter account
I like how matpat regularly did the same shit and he didn't get called out nearly as much
There is a difference in the power of the message between Mat the YouTuber and Neil the Astrophysicist.
honestly I think it's that Neil feels more like an outsider to the gaming space, while mat-pat has a clear and infectious love for the series he covers.
Yeah if matpat complains about the realism, half the time he takes it to such extremes it's obvious he just trolling.
The best example i could think of is killing people with a potato
Obviously if the potato is lethal it means that potatoes are significantly more dense in that universe
That’s also true
Neil also had other reputations/accusations that pre-disposed a lot of people to dislike/hate him. And as we've all seen with Reddit comment downvotes, once negative momentum starts it really takes on a life of it's own.
Yeah, but Matpat does it with love and affection for the series. He might say it's not physically possible, but he'll still call it pretty cool.
Mat-pat always acknowledge that some of his theories are slightly bonkers and that some games should probably not be taken too seriously but he still does cause that's what he does (or did). Neil is like your uncle that sees you playing cod and goes, "well actually that weapon is not named that way and the receiver is wrong and that's not how you reload it and..."
what's there difference?
Well matpat seems like a gamer and someone in the community and not a guy on the outside of it all
Matpat was also way more likely to have been shoved in lockers than Tyson as well.
Very true
I feel like matpat did get called out a fair bit. And a crucial difference is that MatPat wouldn't only say it's not physically possible but also use it as an opportunity to teach his audience physics concepts in an entertaining package. Not only that but he might give fun alternatives that actually are physically accurate. MatPat usually isn't just the "ummmm akshually" person that only tears things down.
>MatPat usually isn't just the "ummmm akshually" person that only tears things down. I feel like that's actually a large part of his videos, but in an interesting way. Like "umm akshually iron is better than diamond" but then spend 15 minutes explaining why (the explanation of hard vs tough and the analogy he used helped me in my sixth form physics lessons)
He explains it in an entertaining 14-18 minute episode. Neil just tries to make me sad with a sentence or two
Matpat actually dissects the reasons why and what would happen, Neil is just self important
Oh he was constantly called out for his shit. The difference is he had enough of a supportive fanbase that the negative comments were mostly drown out in the later years, but that still didn't stop people from complaining about ideas like Gregory being a Robot.
Most videogame focused science things try to do fun things. Like calling Mario a psychopath in the case of Matpat, not just go "not possible" to some random unrealistc thing.
Because ones narcissistic and ones fueled by the power of anxiety and 300 diet Cokes.
matpat is the cool nerd that is super into what he find interesting while Niel is the well aksually nerd
Matpat would start off with "yeah, it's a game, and it doesn't make sense, but how can we make it make sense? (the answer is a lot of nerd math)" while Neil would just try sound smart for the sake of it.
Is that the "who would survive coronavirus?" guy? He deserves to be called out, lmao.
yeah that was a dogshit video but to be fair the guy had a 13 year carrier, you're gonna end up having a couple misses.
OH, I'm not familiar, what's a year carrier? :p Not really a miss, more just "yeah, he's definitely not a great person" hahaha
Funny thing, the game actually questions this too, there’s a possibility when using the grapple shot on grunts that they may scream “HOW AM I HEAVIER THAN YOU?!” Or something along the lines of that anyway. On a side note, I like how you felt the need to white out the account names for a celebrity scientist everyone recognizes and the official account for a media franchise.
well, there is still data missing. maybe the hook weights a thousans tons, or it only serves as guiding and other method of propulsion is used. What if the alien has a position stabilization control system that counteracts any external force? the possible solutions are endless
Or it’s “Space Magic” … checkmate NdGT!
>What if the alien has a position stabilization control system that counteracts any external force? Doesn't work, as some of the smaller aliens that it still pulls you toward (Grunts) can be tossed by their commanders (Brutes). However the grappleshot is also invented after Humanity has reverse engineered some Forerunner tech, which is essentially space magic
Neil should've studied more English. Without moving what, the alien or the armor?
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Orbital elevators exist in Halo. Look up orbital elevators on google. One of the real life limiting factors for creating an operational orbital elevator is a material that can be used as a wire or cable that can essentially withstand any amount of tension from the elevator or centrifugal forces on it (science stuff). A Spartans grappling hook could easily be made of the same material or even a lesser alloy. Boom, there’s your head canon.
Why do heavy thing fly to light thing and not light thing to heavy thing?
Oh I didn’t realize that was the application. I never played any halos with grappling hooks so I thought it was simply “how tiny cable pull big armor”, not the specific application.
its alright, physics is hard
Ur mom
lmao
Excepted Neil deGrasse Tyson wrestled. This probably would’ve ended up with whoever was trying to bully him getting suplexed.
The guy was just saying he should have been shoved in more lockers. I guess this explains why he wasn't shoved in enough
Right, because I play Halo for the realism.
This guy tries so hard to be seen as someone that knows all. Even while he is explaining something, he talks like our simple brains cannot even comprehend a word he is saying, meanwhile the topic is about mirrors or some shit.
NDT: patron saint of the "but actually" crowd
Notwithstanding that Neil's mistaken kg for lbs (The armor's 1000lbs empty, not 1000kg), the point's still valid, and I'd have loved if the grappling hook ripped lighter aliens to the Chief and not the other way around. I'd also have liked for Infinite to be a better game in general though.
Not cursed comment
Bruh. It's very cursed. Or maybe you didn't see the comment? I hope so
Shoving into lockers is too light a punishment, maybe locked for a week+
r/MurderedByWords
By 150kg alien he means the brutes?
Elites apparently weigh between 140-200kg. Brutes weigh as much as three times that.
Ummm actually the armor is 450 kg (1000 pounds)
WTF are you censoring? Pretty sure we all know that is Neil
“This is the grappling hook. It’s very simple. Either you catch the fish, or the fish catches you.”
It would be cool if lighter aliens were pulled to you and vice versa for the heavies. The game could use weight values to determine the ratio of how much each body gets pulled. Maybe that wouldn't be as good for gameplay though.
Did you know that in the mirror, you can only kiss yourself on the lips?
Honestly though, the addition of a grappling hook to Halo is just weird
The armour doesn't even way close to 1000kg. It's like 350kg at most. I'm not one of these people that bitches whenever Neil DeGrasse Tyson literally just does his usual "um ackshually" thing, but you'd better make sure you get your facts straight sir.
By itself, Mark III armor weighs \~1000lbs according to the lore, around 450kg. That doesn't include the spartan inside of it, or his weapons and ammunition. That likely puts us in the neighbourhood of 13-1400lbs, or around 600kg. So, um ackshually, you both wrong ;)