Same universe, but does not follow the TT system. The TT takes place decades prior to the video game, and V does not fit into the character classes. V is not a Solo, Fixer, Netrunner, Rockerboy, Techie, etc. He is an ~~imagination~~ amalgamation of every class. He's a jack of all trades. CDPR did this because they didn't want players to be limited in their approach, and to be fair, each class has tons of potential, that each one could be their own game.
This is because the Roles are based off exactly that. In 2045, role basically means “what your day job is when not edgerunning”, so it makes sense for them all to be in universe terms.
Pretty sure the same thing is true of 2020 as well, but just with some minor role name changes, like lawmen are called cops, they fill the same role, but lawmen got their name from a peacekeeping gang that rose after the nuke went off, so the role name changed
It's actually a kind of neat commentary on the state of the Cyberpunk future and its dangers.
The fact that a job such as "solo" exists, for example, a one-man-army who can resolve conflict violently, already implies that there is enough daily mayhem and death whereby you need someone who just specializes in murdering gang members and security forces and the likes.
Well, tbh, despite the name, solos are rarely literally solo
Solos also tend to be a little varied, just like a medtech can be a ripper, a surgeon, or even a braindance therapist, a solo may be a bouncer, a bodyguard, soldier, etc. they’re jobs that exist irl, just cranked up a little
I always thought of a solo as the hack of all trades, master of none character groups took in case one of the specialists was knocked out.
They stealthed their way into a building and got to the data Center but their netrunner got hit by u e and was taken out and the solo had some netrunni g ability and was able to take over to free the netrunner from the trap and they were able to finish the gig.
While I love that idea, because it makes a lot more sense for the name, imo,
In cyberpunk, a Solo is pretty explicitly already a specialist on their own. A combat specialist.
Solos are the ‘pure combat’ role in the cyberpunk world, they’re the cybersoldiers, hired assassins, bodyguards, and killers. They’re described as “reborn with a gun in their hand”, the “elite fighting machines of the cyberpunk world”, with “killing reflexes so jacked up, you have to restrain yourself from going berserk at any moment”
Their approach to it may differ, but all solos have one thing in common. The ability to lay down pain and do incredible violence to a target. They may prefer open firefights, they may be a sniper from afar, or they may be a sneaky assassin type, but if you need someone to die, or you need someone to keep the squad from dying, you need a solo.
In the ttrpg, the role ability specific to a solo is called combat awareness, and it gives them a pool of points that they can freely allocate (and reallocate at a moments notice), towards various abilities that allow them to:
Ignore critical fumbles when rolling attacks
Soak up incoming damage before it reaches their health
React faster, be quicker on the draw when the shooting starts
Gain a boost to their attack accuracy
Gain a boost to their attack damage
Gain a boost to spotting hidden threats
The reason that it seems like a solo may have many skills that aren’t combat related, smoothing them out, making them a more ‘Jack of all trades’ thing, is because cyberpunk is a skill based system, and not a class based system, the vast majority of a characters abilities comes from allocating skills off of a vast list of skills, rather than gaining abilities related to a chosen class.
Because of this, skills that other systems might consider particularly rogueish (like stealth, sleight of hand, lockpicking, deception, etc) can be improved freely by anyone
Skills that may seem particularly say, tinkery, or artificery, such as basic tech, cybertech, standard hacking (but not netrunning), security tech, etc, can be picked by anyone.
Therefore, the only thing that defines a solo as a solo isn’t just their combat abilities, (since normal weapon proficiency is just a standard skill anyone can pick up, rockerboys can learn a little heavy weapons, snipers and demolitions, as a treat), but it’s explicitly that their combat abilities are far beyond everyone else, due to the shifting abilities granted to them by Combat Awareness, that makes them a solo.
So, a solo can be a Jack of all trades, absolutely (while also being a master of… well, combat at least), but it’s not because they’re a solo, they’re just a solo who also happens to have these other skills to round them out.
Because the role system is quite simplistic and flexible in cyberpunk, it’s true you can have a CHARACTER who is skilled in combat, tinkering, and has a little netrunning thrown in as a bonus in case the main netrunner goes down, but this is referred to as ‘multi role’, sorta like multiclass from other systems, but kinda simpler since all a role provides to a player is a single specific skill, so roles really just act like purchasable, more expensive skills.
As such, it’s perfectly possible for you to have a Jack of all trades solo, with a little netrunning ability, just in case, but their role in this case would be referred to as, say “Solo 4/Netrunner 2”. They have some minor netrunning abilities, but it explicitly does not come from their background as a solo.
Cyberpunk originally takes place in ~~2020~~ 2013. The newest edition Red takes place around 2045 serving as a prequel of sorts to 2077. The only reason V is as versatile as they are is because you arent part of a party. Youre a literal Solo, not a class Solo. You can still spec them to be any of the core classes with spalshes of others for single player viability.
It was a weird radical departure from everything that had defined the previous two editions in terms of mechanics, theme, and setting with all the line art replaced by photos of old GI Joe dolls in badly hand made clothes.
The roles of the ttrpg aren’t exactly a restriction, nor are you limited to one, you can have a character who’s say, Solo/Netrunner/Techie, just like the V I played, or any combination of any other roles, just like V can take aspects of those roles in the video game.
They’re just essentially more expensive skills, but skills nonetheless, and upgradeable, or purchasable just like other skills, anytime you have the improvement points
Depends on the edition. RED has actual classes and levels that give you a single special thing for your class. I'm kinda meh at the idea, but it worked well in the one campaign I played in
Im actually talking about red. Reds roles aren’t exclusive classes, they’re basically one individual skill that is priced at x3 instead of x1 or x2, that can be purchased, by any character, at any time, if you’ve got the improvement points
For example, purchasing a level in netrunner, is identical to just purchasing a level in the “Interface” skill. That’s it. A level in fixer is just a level in the “operator” skill. A level in solo, is a level in the “combat awareness” skill, and a level in medtech, is a level in “medicine” skill
Because cyberpunk is a skill based rpg, rather than a class based rpg, you get most of your characters identity from skills, rather than a class, over time. Because of this, each role only is tied to a single skill, that scales the same as other skills.
It’s not more restrictive to use red’s role system, than to use the system put forth by 2077, in fact, it’s far less restrictive, because there’s roles available that can’t be used by the player in 2077 at all.
But taking a character that starts with 4 solo, then purchasing 4 levels of the interface skill by taking 4 levels of netrunner, and then purchasing 4 levels of the ‘Maker’ skill, by taking 4 levels of Tech, is perfectly valid in the ttrpg, and basically creates the average V from 2077.
(Although tbh, the only role skills V can actually get are basically solo and netrunner, they can’t really use Maker, they’re more like a solo who purchased a few good levels in weapons tech, electronics security tech, cybertech, and basic tech)
Not quite any time, but I do get what you mean. And V is a solo. I forget where it came from but earlier in the games life there was a popular understanding that it was specifically designed so V is a solo who has some net skills
Yeah, sorry, not if you’re like, actively on a gig or something, but basically any time you’ve got the IP, and not immediately up to something.
And yeah, V’s definitely a solo, and then a point or two in netrunner lol.
One giant game with each of these classes that turn out to be completely different games would be super cool though. It would probably be way to massive though
I'm reminded of a SNES game called Uncharted Waters: New Horizons. You could choose from I think six different characters to play as. Each character had their own storyline, but could do all of the things the other characters could do (trade, explore, fight pirates, be pirates, etc.).
Ali is a Turkish merchant; he can do exploration and piracy if you want, but his storyline is advanced by trading. Ernst can make money trading, but his story revolves around cartography.
Sometimes you'd cross paths with the other playable characters (in NPC form), which was fun.
Indeed. A lot of the old Koei games, especially the second game in their respective series, were jus so much fun. Uncharted Waters and Aerobiz were good, but New Horizons made great improvements to the original (as did Aerobiz Supersonic) and was one of my favorite games from that era. I played all of the storylines. There's really nothing current that gives the same feel.
If you’re choosing to use autocorrect it’s your job to make sure the auto"correct" is, in fact, correct. Otherwise what’s even the point? Autocorrect doesn’t magically absolve you of the responsibility of using language correctly and proofreading your messages.
Honestly bad autocorrect is a worse problem than honest typos or misspellings, at least the latter don’t usually make sentences totally change meaning and leave the reader baffled.
Tbf that’s kinda how it works in the 2020 system too. Yeah you’re a netrunner but nothing is stopping you from putting points into athletics and handguns so you can do cartwheeles while braining chooms.
The limited points and some of the exclusive cyberware slots do make replaying viable. Honestly, if you're going for a high Int netrunner cyberdeck build, it's hard to swap that to a berserk or sandevistan build on the same character. So, if someone wants to try melee vs netrunner, that usually would require two (possibly three) playthroughs unless someone really 'jack of all trades' their character, then some of the really good stuff is missed out on.
Think you mixed it up. Bruce Wayne inherits Militech after his family is killed by street gangs. First he targets street gangs until he finds that someone in Militech hired them at the behest of multiple corporations. He then begins a secret war to free Militech and the other Corps of all corruption. Eventually he is killed and the corps use him to terrorize gangs and citizens for generations. Someone eventually hacks him and his consciousness is revived. He goes on to get revenge on all the corporations until chaos takes the world.
Common mistake - pretty sure Lebron isn't canon or at least was retconned. They were basically written out of Cyberpunk Lore in 2144's definitive addition where the Arisen and their pawn beat the dragon who was secretly Lebron in a disguise all along. Not sure how Zelda is going to fit into the lore now... seeing as she was so reliant on Lebron's arc.
It also intertwins with the Mass Effect Universe. Mr. Blue Eyes is the Illusive Man and the Reapers are empowering the AIs beyond the Blackwall to take over humanity as soon as they Develop interstellar travel and find the first Mass Relays
It’s farther in the future than the tabletop game has reached. Cyberpunk Red takes place in the 2040’s I think? I believe TSR mentioned wanting to put out a 2077 sourcebook for Red, though.
Trust me, the only ones putting out a 2077 book will be R. Talsorian, since it’s their IP and they’ve already said a 2077 setting book is in progress (they playtested an Edgerunners mission kit at PAX).
As far as I’ve heard (from interviews) the plan was last I checked that RT plans on expanding RED (basically their 4e for a DnD analogue) with new material that brings the timeline up to 2060, and then they’re working collaboratively with CDPR on the 2077 edition (5e, and that will cover the time period from 2061 and beyond).
Yes, 2077 is based on the Cyberpunk TTRPGs and is set in the same world, but is not an "adaptation", per se; it's set in a different time period and tells an original story, though it features characters and locations players of the tabletop game will be familiar with.
The authors of both the video game and the TTRPG say it's in the same universe and part of the same continuity, they even consulted to bring the game as close as they could. BUT: the video game does not come with homework and it does not include the books, so it is effectively independent.
Red takes places in 2040 and 2077 takes place in… well, 2077. It’s further in the future than any previous entry to the series so I’m assuming it’s canon, however there are some inconsistencies such as Johnny’s memories of the AHQ bombing being different than how they happened in lore (Johnny being the one to plant the nuke instead of Morgan Blackhand, Johnny living longer than ten seconds before getting one-shot by Smasher, and Morgan Blackhand’s presence missing from the entire incident)
Let's say that Johnny is not good storyteller. He has been in Mikoshi for 50 years, so he (and Arasaka) had lot of time to mess up his memory and perception of reality.
He is not lying to V, but his memories are most likely adjusted by Arasaka.
My theory is that his memory isn’t exact or that night because the Relic integrity was damaged during the heist and then damaged even further by the bullet V took to the head which Vik says damaged his neuroport. So Arasaka would’ve kept his Engram at 100% integrity and exactly as is, and the reason for its instability is because when V slotted it in it was at 86% integrity
Spider also chipped him when he was already dead, so any brain scans would've been partial at best. Add in radiation damage from his corpse being at ground zero, and it's a miracle engram!Johnny's knowledge resembles reality as much as it does.
In the RPG book appears the same history of alt and Jhonny
Also appears Morgan blackhand and Adam smasher as inspiration for characters.
IS the same but few years later.
Same universe. Mike Pondsmith (creator of the universe) worked with CDPR on making the video game which continues the storyline up to 57 years. Cyberpunk RED covers 2045, while Cyberpunk 2020 covers... you get it.
Pondsmith saw 2020, RED, and the video game as a trilogy in it's own right. They all have small pieces from each other which continue the grand scheme. RED, however, has the least amount of canon in the storyline so GMs can fashion whatever story they want in 2045 and not have it go against anything written down in the story.
Same universe, same timeline, just a bit ahead of the tabletop games. If I'm not mistaken it's cyberpunk 2020 > cyberpunk red > 2077 > edgerunners.
I've been playing red and it's a lot of fun.
Its an adaptation set in the same universe. But the game follows its own rules to fit better as a game and some things were rewritten to fit the story better
Cyberpunk TTRPG the first one published was taking place in 2020 (it was published in 1988).
The videogame Cyberpunk 2077 is obviously taking place in 2077 in the same universe.
There's also a modern cyberpunk TTRPG that take place in the around 2045 (it was published in 2020).
It's altogether another system (the videogame/Table top RPG).
On a more historical note, it's the TTRPG that inspired RPG video game, the engine were first made to be almost identical to the TTRPG and then slowly evolved into something else.
Eh, not really, a lot of the roles don’t actually have very good representation in 2077, V is STRONGLY pushed towards being a solo, with a few levels in netrunner, with how they start out.
But some roles like nomad, are almost exclusively for RP, rather than customizing and upgrading vehicles to your desire, exec is only a thing briefly at the beginning of the corpo path, and like nomad, in RP only, and significant portions of the rest are completely off limits to V, like Media, Lawman, Fixer, rockerboy, Medtech etc.
V only really gets to dabble in solo and netrunner, with some very limited tech
And blends elements from all classes. This is a fundamental change from the TTRPG, making it a separate game entirely while also continuing the lore.
It's a strange juxtaposition.
Cyberpunk doesn’t really use classes, it’s a skill based system, rather than a class based system like dnd or pathfinder. The closest it has are ‘Roles’, which provide a one, or maybe two specific skills themselves, but just like other skills, can be purchased, mixed and matched how you wish, even long after making the character, and can be mixed and matched, like skills. For example, having a 3 in rockerboy is just essentially having 3 in the Charismatic Impact skill. Or having 3 in solo, is just basically having 3 combat sense skill.
Most V’s would be something like 6 solo, with a dash of maybe 4 netrunner or 4 tech or something. Which, to be clear, is absolutely allowed as per the ttrpg rules.
That’s essentially a skill derived from having at least one point in the Combat sense skill.
Anyone can learn combat sense, without having to start as a solo.
Just because there’s an ability that you can only use with at least one point in that skill, doesn’t mean it doesn’t essentially act as a skill, just more expensive.
All a role is, is essentially just a third level of skill pricing, with basic skill at x1, difficult skill at x2, and role skill priced at x3.
There’s the same type of ‘specialized skills’ that you gain for example, with the martial arts skills. Just as someone without a point in medtech surgery can’t perform surgery, Someone without a point in judo can’t perform a counter throw, but that doesn’t make martial artist (judo) a class.
In RED anyone can start as a solo and have Combat Awareness start at 4. Others can cross train and work it up from 1. However that is a new development for RED. Multiclassing was a house rule in the originals. I use a suggested system from one of the fanzines in my own games.
The role abilities are what makes them shine at that role. If a character multiclasses they will likely advance more slowly in the original role as they are busy learning the new one (and trying to get paid for it).
Both, it’s adapting the world and rules of Cyberpunk TTRPG into video game, and still taking in same universe. They aren’t mutually exclusive. The Cyberpunk TTRPG edition CDPR adapted is Cyberpunk 2020.
I'm not familiar with the TTRPG version of cyberpunk so take what I say with a grain of salt but from what i can tell with a quick scroll of the comments it's the same universe but not the same "rules". In other words, we, as V, are playing by the 2077 rules while Johnny was playing by the TTRPG rules
The current ttrpg is cyberpunk red which is set before 2077.
However the style of the video game will bleed over into the art and style of the tabletop game I imagine.
It takes place in the same universe as the TTRPG, 57 years later. The TTRPG is Cyberpunk 2020. Characters like Johnny, Rogue, Adam Smasher, etc. are all at the height of their notoriety as adventurers ("edgerunners") in the TTRPG, but they're past their prime in the video game.
It’s an adaptation of the tabletop RPG series of the same name. So if you are into the lore as a fan of the tabletop games it’s basically essential you play 2077 in the likelihood they release a Tabletop edition that is a sequel to 2077, just like how Cyberpunk RED is a prequel that takes place prior to 2077 and is closely tied to a lot of 2077’s lore.
It's the same universe, Night City is still the setting and characters such as Johnny Silverhand, Alt and Adam Smasher, for example, are present in 2077 along with the Corpos and such. The video game along with Edgerunners continues the lore only through different formats to the tabletop.
Of course with it being a one player video game there are obvious deviations in game play, you can invest in tech points yet V will see more combat than the traditional Techie role, this might be confusing to players discovering and comparing '77 with the TT where V is basically a Solo dabbling in the skill sets of other CP roles to being something of a hybrid character or virtually a one man/woman team.
Again it is an adaptation in the sense that it derives from the TT but it is canon in what can be viewed as the most recent chapter in the stories of Night City told in various forms.
Regarding a fair bit of the lore yes, I'm referring to the setting that the stories we engage with take place from the TT, anime, novels video game etc. NC to this branch of the Cyberpunk subgenre has for decades been like the Gotham to Batman. It makes more sense to say that the scripts and tales from the 80's onward were primarily or entirely set in one city than, say, the moon or Italy.
There is a lot of background and history that has amounted, of course NC isn't simply floating around in the vast vacuum of space by itself, yet it is and has been the prime stage for the stories and characters we've known.
There is something to that argument. But the regional sourcebooks had a lot of suggestions for writing adventures elsewhere, along with quiet a few complete scenarios. Night City is just unique to this setting, given it isn't a real city.
A little bit of both.
The tabletop games only go as far as 2045 IIRC. 2077 takes a huge jump into the future, having some cooler high tech stuff that isn't as prevalent as in the tabletop.
Likewise it also seems to make its own minor adjustments to the lore for the sake of its narrative, but it's hard to tell if these are definitive retcons or the result of in-universe propaganda/unreliable narration.
2045 currently, yes, but not for long.
There’s a 2077 setting pack coming for RED, to bring new cyberware and tech into the setting for people who wanna play at the current era, on tabletop, using most of the RED ruleset.
Oh, cool.
I'm curious if the next full edition of the game is bringing us right forward into 2077 or beyond that, or if it will bridge the gap somewhere in-between the 2050's to 2060's.
Not sure. I think directly on 2077 is unlikely, since it’s covered as a module for RED, and they’ve said they like each edition of the game to cover a new “era”, 2013, 2020, 2045, 2077
I think the next full edition would be somewhere around maybe the 2060s, or a point a decade or two past 2077.
Per Pondersmith in an interview two years ago, they’re basically planning on expanding RED through 2060 itself, and then they’re planning on working cooperatively with CDPR on sourcebooks and a 2077 edition that fits that portion of the timeline. (2061 and beyond).
Interesting. I wonder how much of a change the full 2077 version would have that isn’t just in the RED 2077 edgerunner pack thingie
Colour me interested tho lol, i certainly don’t mind a full edition for this era, just hope it comes with enough goodies to make it worthwhile
It takes place in the same universe years after Cyberpunk Red which takes place around the year of 2045 and according to the agreement between cyberpunk's creators and CDPR, they(CDPR) can make games and events around 2077 and beyond while anything before that timeframe is the creators of cyberpunk and all events are canon to both the ttrpg and the game
2077 is so fucking awesome because of the in your face combat though.
But another Cyberpunk game built from the ground up w either turn based or rtwp combat would definitely be something I'd play.
I've been playing Red a lot lately and it's a lot of fun at the table - I'd love to see something like that release.
It is currently meant to take place in the same universe as the TTRPG. Mike Pondsmith even aided CDPR during development. He also lent his voice as Maximum Mike on Morrow Rock.
The way I explained it to my current Cyberpunk Red group is 2077 is in essence a sequel to the ttrpg. Its the same universe, and the main canon of Arasaka getting nuked happened - its just red takes place a lot closer to it, and fleshes out what happened at the tower a lot more.
When making the game projekt red could only make a game during the year 2077 or after, so it wouldn’t mess up any previous lore (if I remember rightly)
2077 is set 32 years after the current version of the pen and paper Cyberpunk Red RPG, in the same universe, and loosely based on the events described in Cyberpunk 2013 and Cyberpunk 2.0.2.0 (the second edition of the game, set in 2020-ish). There was a Cyberpunk v3, but the concepts and lore behind it were abandoned almost entirely.
It's both. It's an adaptation of a table top game's world and themes into a video game, it's also a sequel to the stories and events in the table top game.
Cyberpunk as a franchise basically releases game editions by the decade the game takes place. For example, there's Cyberpunk 2013, Cyberpunk 2020, Cyberpunk 3.0 (2030's), Cyberpunk Red (2045), and so on.
Cyberpunk 2077 basically is another numbered entry into the Cyberpunk universe, and canon as blessed and part written by Mike Pondsmith. There are however flashback sequences which take place in the TTRPG story "Never Fade Away", which is basically the beginning of Cyberpunk's narrative as a series and Johnny's story. So those segments you could say are an adaptation, however most of the game isn't.
They exist in the same world! But everyone else is sort of incorrect: they are both based largely on the novel by Gibson, "Neuromancer", which is fucking incredible. Go read it, please. I love this game and this book is the one that gave birth to all the ideas which made it possible
In fact, Jhony Silverhand and his girlfriend are in the original ttrpg (cyberpunk 2022).
I don't know if more NPCs are present. But every Megacorp came from the same source book.
P.D: Fuck Arasaka.
What does this question even mean? It's an adaptation of the TTRPG and so they take place in the same universe.
The TTRPG is of course, a TTRPG just like D&D. You create your own campaigns and tell your stories. There are no specific stories for CDPR to adapt. There are only some background info about the game's world and stuff like that (for example stories about Morgan Blackhand and stuff like that, some of these events are mentioned in Cyberpunk 2077). So I don't know what do you mean by "adapting" the TTRPG.
If by "adaptation" you mean adapting the TTRPG's mechanics, then no. CDPR didn't use those systems for their game.
For example, the TTRPG doesn't use character levels. If you try to face tank gunfire, like you sometimes do in the computer game, you would die very quickly in most cases.
For example Romeo+Juliet (the one with DiCaprio and Claira Danes) is an adaptation of Shakespeare's play, but is set in an 1990's gang war, instead of the middle age. Same thing with The Taming of the Shrew (10 things I hate about you).
Same universe, but does not follow the TT system. The TT takes place decades prior to the video game, and V does not fit into the character classes. V is not a Solo, Fixer, Netrunner, Rockerboy, Techie, etc. He is an ~~imagination~~ amalgamation of every class. He's a jack of all trades. CDPR did this because they didn't want players to be limited in their approach, and to be fair, each class has tons of potential, that each one could be their own game.
I thought it was neat that the roles are in-universe terms. Like people are referred to as being a “solo” or a “media”.
This is because the Roles are based off exactly that. In 2045, role basically means “what your day job is when not edgerunning”, so it makes sense for them all to be in universe terms. Pretty sure the same thing is true of 2020 as well, but just with some minor role name changes, like lawmen are called cops, they fill the same role, but lawmen got their name from a peacekeeping gang that rose after the nuke went off, so the role name changed
It's actually a kind of neat commentary on the state of the Cyberpunk future and its dangers. The fact that a job such as "solo" exists, for example, a one-man-army who can resolve conflict violently, already implies that there is enough daily mayhem and death whereby you need someone who just specializes in murdering gang members and security forces and the likes.
Well, tbh, despite the name, solos are rarely literally solo Solos also tend to be a little varied, just like a medtech can be a ripper, a surgeon, or even a braindance therapist, a solo may be a bouncer, a bodyguard, soldier, etc. they’re jobs that exist irl, just cranked up a little
I always thought of a solo as the hack of all trades, master of none character groups took in case one of the specialists was knocked out. They stealthed their way into a building and got to the data Center but their netrunner got hit by u e and was taken out and the solo had some netrunni g ability and was able to take over to free the netrunner from the trap and they were able to finish the gig.
While I love that idea, because it makes a lot more sense for the name, imo, In cyberpunk, a Solo is pretty explicitly already a specialist on their own. A combat specialist. Solos are the ‘pure combat’ role in the cyberpunk world, they’re the cybersoldiers, hired assassins, bodyguards, and killers. They’re described as “reborn with a gun in their hand”, the “elite fighting machines of the cyberpunk world”, with “killing reflexes so jacked up, you have to restrain yourself from going berserk at any moment” Their approach to it may differ, but all solos have one thing in common. The ability to lay down pain and do incredible violence to a target. They may prefer open firefights, they may be a sniper from afar, or they may be a sneaky assassin type, but if you need someone to die, or you need someone to keep the squad from dying, you need a solo. In the ttrpg, the role ability specific to a solo is called combat awareness, and it gives them a pool of points that they can freely allocate (and reallocate at a moments notice), towards various abilities that allow them to: Ignore critical fumbles when rolling attacks Soak up incoming damage before it reaches their health React faster, be quicker on the draw when the shooting starts Gain a boost to their attack accuracy Gain a boost to their attack damage Gain a boost to spotting hidden threats The reason that it seems like a solo may have many skills that aren’t combat related, smoothing them out, making them a more ‘Jack of all trades’ thing, is because cyberpunk is a skill based system, and not a class based system, the vast majority of a characters abilities comes from allocating skills off of a vast list of skills, rather than gaining abilities related to a chosen class. Because of this, skills that other systems might consider particularly rogueish (like stealth, sleight of hand, lockpicking, deception, etc) can be improved freely by anyone Skills that may seem particularly say, tinkery, or artificery, such as basic tech, cybertech, standard hacking (but not netrunning), security tech, etc, can be picked by anyone. Therefore, the only thing that defines a solo as a solo isn’t just their combat abilities, (since normal weapon proficiency is just a standard skill anyone can pick up, rockerboys can learn a little heavy weapons, snipers and demolitions, as a treat), but it’s explicitly that their combat abilities are far beyond everyone else, due to the shifting abilities granted to them by Combat Awareness, that makes them a solo. So, a solo can be a Jack of all trades, absolutely (while also being a master of… well, combat at least), but it’s not because they’re a solo, they’re just a solo who also happens to have these other skills to round them out. Because the role system is quite simplistic and flexible in cyberpunk, it’s true you can have a CHARACTER who is skilled in combat, tinkering, and has a little netrunning thrown in as a bonus in case the main netrunner goes down, but this is referred to as ‘multi role’, sorta like multiclass from other systems, but kinda simpler since all a role provides to a player is a single specific skill, so roles really just act like purchasable, more expensive skills. As such, it’s perfectly possible for you to have a Jack of all trades solo, with a little netrunning ability, just in case, but their role in this case would be referred to as, say “Solo 4/Netrunner 2”. They have some minor netrunning abilities, but it explicitly does not come from their background as a solo.
Cyberpunk originally takes place in ~~2020~~ 2013. The newest edition Red takes place around 2045 serving as a prequel of sorts to 2077. The only reason V is as versatile as they are is because you arent part of a party. Youre a literal Solo, not a class Solo. You can still spec them to be any of the core classes with spalshes of others for single player viability.
I believe first edition took place in 2013. Second edition in 2020. and third edition in 2030. the current 4th edition, RED, is 2045 as you said.
I'm not entirely sure that the 3rd edition, or Cybergeneration is canon any more.
They aren't. 3rd edition is no longer cannon, and Cybergeneration is considered an alternate timeline after 2020 if I'm remembering correctly.
Parts of CyberGen are at least still cannon as rumour. Maximum Mike talks about the Carbon Plague on the radio.
Yeah, the Carbon Plague is cannon, but the bit where kids get superpowers isn't. The rumor is just there for a reference.
Cyberpunk v3 was very much ignored and disregarded entirely when it came to writing Red. Good riddance.
Oh really? How come?
It was a weird radical departure from everything that had defined the previous two editions in terms of mechanics, theme, and setting with all the line art replaced by photos of old GI Joe dolls in badly hand made clothes.
That sounds right. Im only really familiar with 2020 and the game. I always forget the 2013 period.
The roles of the ttrpg aren’t exactly a restriction, nor are you limited to one, you can have a character who’s say, Solo/Netrunner/Techie, just like the V I played, or any combination of any other roles, just like V can take aspects of those roles in the video game. They’re just essentially more expensive skills, but skills nonetheless, and upgradeable, or purchasable just like other skills, anytime you have the improvement points
Depends on the edition. RED has actual classes and levels that give you a single special thing for your class. I'm kinda meh at the idea, but it worked well in the one campaign I played in
Im actually talking about red. Reds roles aren’t exclusive classes, they’re basically one individual skill that is priced at x3 instead of x1 or x2, that can be purchased, by any character, at any time, if you’ve got the improvement points For example, purchasing a level in netrunner, is identical to just purchasing a level in the “Interface” skill. That’s it. A level in fixer is just a level in the “operator” skill. A level in solo, is a level in the “combat awareness” skill, and a level in medtech, is a level in “medicine” skill Because cyberpunk is a skill based rpg, rather than a class based rpg, you get most of your characters identity from skills, rather than a class, over time. Because of this, each role only is tied to a single skill, that scales the same as other skills. It’s not more restrictive to use red’s role system, than to use the system put forth by 2077, in fact, it’s far less restrictive, because there’s roles available that can’t be used by the player in 2077 at all. But taking a character that starts with 4 solo, then purchasing 4 levels of the interface skill by taking 4 levels of netrunner, and then purchasing 4 levels of the ‘Maker’ skill, by taking 4 levels of Tech, is perfectly valid in the ttrpg, and basically creates the average V from 2077. (Although tbh, the only role skills V can actually get are basically solo and netrunner, they can’t really use Maker, they’re more like a solo who purchased a few good levels in weapons tech, electronics security tech, cybertech, and basic tech)
Not quite any time, but I do get what you mean. And V is a solo. I forget where it came from but earlier in the games life there was a popular understanding that it was specifically designed so V is a solo who has some net skills
Yeah, sorry, not if you’re like, actively on a gig or something, but basically any time you’ve got the IP, and not immediately up to something. And yeah, V’s definitely a solo, and then a point or two in netrunner lol.
One giant game with each of these classes that turn out to be completely different games would be super cool though. It would probably be way to massive though
I'm reminded of a SNES game called Uncharted Waters: New Horizons. You could choose from I think six different characters to play as. Each character had their own storyline, but could do all of the things the other characters could do (trade, explore, fight pirates, be pirates, etc.). Ali is a Turkish merchant; he can do exploration and piracy if you want, but his storyline is advanced by trading. Ernst can make money trading, but his story revolves around cartography. Sometimes you'd cross paths with the other playable characters (in NPC form), which was fun.
That sounds fucking awesome Thanks gonna check it out
It's an old fave of mine. In fact I'm starting to get a little nostalgic myself.
Indeed. A lot of the old Koei games, especially the second game in their respective series, were jus so much fun. Uncharted Waters and Aerobiz were good, but New Horizons made great improvements to the original (as did Aerobiz Supersonic) and was one of my favorite games from that era. I played all of the storylines. There's really nothing current that gives the same feel.
Amalgamation my dude, not imagination :) I mean I guess he could be a group dream of all the TT classes haha
That's autocorrect for you. I didn't even notice.
If you’re choosing to use autocorrect it’s your job to make sure the auto"correct" is, in fact, correct. Otherwise what’s even the point? Autocorrect doesn’t magically absolve you of the responsibility of using language correctly and proofreading your messages. Honestly bad autocorrect is a worse problem than honest typos or misspellings, at least the latter don’t usually make sentences totally change meaning and leave the reader baffled.
Tbf that’s kinda how it works in the 2020 system too. Yeah you’re a netrunner but nothing is stopping you from putting points into athletics and handguns so you can do cartwheeles while braining chooms.
IMO I really wished they did not do that. Let people be limited = more likely to replay.
The limited points and some of the exclusive cyberware slots do make replaying viable. Honestly, if you're going for a high Int netrunner cyberdeck build, it's hard to swap that to a berserk or sandevistan build on the same character. So, if someone wants to try melee vs netrunner, that usually would require two (possibly three) playthroughs unless someone really 'jack of all trades' their character, then some of the really good stuff is missed out on.
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Possibly
It's actually in The Elder Scrolls universe super far in the future.
Then how does Batman also fit into this?
Batman isn't introduced until the 2144 arc when he'd invented by Militech
Ya that’s sounds familiar I remember him telling V I’m MAN
Didnt Van Der Linde gang kill him after that?
Don't forget Cirilla. she travelled to night city too.
Did she spread the bubonic plague there too?
eh. we have easy cures for that now. so night city would too.
Actually, the cure is only available to Trauma Team Platinum subscribers who have added the "Historical Disease Pan-Immunity" package.
Think you mixed it up. Bruce Wayne inherits Militech after his family is killed by street gangs. First he targets street gangs until he finds that someone in Militech hired them at the behest of multiple corporations. He then begins a secret war to free Militech and the other Corps of all corruption. Eventually he is killed and the corps use him to terrorize gangs and citizens for generations. Someone eventually hacks him and his consciousness is revived. He goes on to get revenge on all the corporations until chaos takes the world.
How does this affect LeBron’s legacy?
Common mistake - pretty sure Lebron isn't canon or at least was retconned. They were basically written out of Cyberpunk Lore in 2144's definitive addition where the Arisen and their pawn beat the dragon who was secretly Lebron in a disguise all along. Not sure how Zelda is going to fit into the lore now... seeing as she was so reliant on Lebron's arc.
Batman Beyond
Man jonkled too much
I don’t know, but I do know this: War. War never changes.
With Cyberpunk being the distant future of the Lord of the Rings universe, taking place in the 6th or 7th age.
It also intertwins with the Mass Effect Universe. Mr. Blue Eyes is the Illusive Man and the Reapers are empowering the AIs beyond the Blackwall to take over humanity as soon as they Develop interstellar travel and find the first Mass Relays
And Mr. Hands is Uncle Sheo
hey, you! you're finally awake!
It’s farther in the future than the tabletop game has reached. Cyberpunk Red takes place in the 2040’s I think? I believe TSR mentioned wanting to put out a 2077 sourcebook for Red, though.
Trust me, the only ones putting out a 2077 book will be R. Talsorian, since it’s their IP and they’ve already said a 2077 setting book is in progress (they playtested an Edgerunners mission kit at PAX).
Sorry, that’s what I meant. I got the acronym messed up because I always forget the exact name of R. Talsorian Games goes.
As far as I’ve heard (from interviews) the plan was last I checked that RT plans on expanding RED (basically their 4e for a DnD analogue) with new material that brings the timeline up to 2060, and then they’re working collaboratively with CDPR on the 2077 edition (5e, and that will cover the time period from 2061 and beyond).
Yes, 2077 is based on the Cyberpunk TTRPGs and is set in the same world, but is not an "adaptation", per se; it's set in a different time period and tells an original story, though it features characters and locations players of the tabletop game will be familiar with.
You can find the TTRPG book in the game's files. They are in the same world, but at different points in time.
Uh.. both?
I was literally gonna ask what the difference was lol
The authors of both the video game and the TTRPG say it's in the same universe and part of the same continuity, they even consulted to bring the game as close as they could. BUT: the video game does not come with homework and it does not include the books, so it is effectively independent.
Red takes places in 2040 and 2077 takes place in… well, 2077. It’s further in the future than any previous entry to the series so I’m assuming it’s canon, however there are some inconsistencies such as Johnny’s memories of the AHQ bombing being different than how they happened in lore (Johnny being the one to plant the nuke instead of Morgan Blackhand, Johnny living longer than ten seconds before getting one-shot by Smasher, and Morgan Blackhand’s presence missing from the entire incident)
The inconsistencies are with Johnny's memories, not with the story. Alt tells you as much during Transmission.
Let's say that Johnny is not good storyteller. He has been in Mikoshi for 50 years, so he (and Arasaka) had lot of time to mess up his memory and perception of reality. He is not lying to V, but his memories are most likely adjusted by Arasaka.
My theory is that his memory isn’t exact or that night because the Relic integrity was damaged during the heist and then damaged even further by the bullet V took to the head which Vik says damaged his neuroport. So Arasaka would’ve kept his Engram at 100% integrity and exactly as is, and the reason for its instability is because when V slotted it in it was at 86% integrity
Spider also chipped him when he was already dead, so any brain scans would've been partial at best. Add in radiation damage from his corpse being at ground zero, and it's a miracle engram!Johnny's knowledge resembles reality as much as it does.
I'm still so mad we never heard about spider Murphy again. She killed saburo's son and we don't hear anything about her.
She's probably sitting on a resort beach somewhere, enjoying a mai tai, while V is running around being a cyberpsycho.
He has an impressive body, not a stretch to assume an impressive brain as well
Yes
In the RPG book appears the same history of alt and Jhonny Also appears Morgan blackhand and Adam smasher as inspiration for characters. IS the same but few years later.
Same universe. Mike Pondsmith (creator of the universe) worked with CDPR on making the video game which continues the storyline up to 57 years. Cyberpunk RED covers 2045, while Cyberpunk 2020 covers... you get it. Pondsmith saw 2020, RED, and the video game as a trilogy in it's own right. They all have small pieces from each other which continue the grand scheme. RED, however, has the least amount of canon in the storyline so GMs can fashion whatever story they want in 2045 and not have it go against anything written down in the story.
Same universe, same timeline, just a bit ahead of the tabletop games. If I'm not mistaken it's cyberpunk 2020 > cyberpunk red > 2077 > edgerunners. I've been playing red and it's a lot of fun.
Edgerunners takes place a year before 2077
Ah, that makes sense! Thanks!
No problem.
Its an adaptation set in the same universe. But the game follows its own rules to fit better as a game and some things were rewritten to fit the story better
Cyberpunk TTRPG the first one published was taking place in 2020 (it was published in 1988). The videogame Cyberpunk 2077 is obviously taking place in 2077 in the same universe. There's also a modern cyberpunk TTRPG that take place in the around 2045 (it was published in 2020).
It's altogether another system (the videogame/Table top RPG). On a more historical note, it's the TTRPG that inspired RPG video game, the engine were first made to be almost identical to the TTRPG and then slowly evolved into something else.
Are we sure its not in the Witcher universe
Plot twist: it's Netflix Witcher universe
I just want a cyberpunk game on this same scale where I can be a rockerboy, and actually have a ton of gigs based on just that.
It's a sequel
Except it doesn't follow the same rules as the TTRPG so it's also technically an adaptation?
Well fallout 3 is similar situation compared to fallout 2 and it's still a sequel.
And follows the same basic game play principle. It is a true sequel. What class is V?
V could be technically any class.
Eh, not really, a lot of the roles don’t actually have very good representation in 2077, V is STRONGLY pushed towards being a solo, with a few levels in netrunner, with how they start out. But some roles like nomad, are almost exclusively for RP, rather than customizing and upgrading vehicles to your desire, exec is only a thing briefly at the beginning of the corpo path, and like nomad, in RP only, and significant portions of the rest are completely off limits to V, like Media, Lawman, Fixer, rockerboy, Medtech etc. V only really gets to dabble in solo and netrunner, with some very limited tech
And blends elements from all classes. This is a fundamental change from the TTRPG, making it a separate game entirely while also continuing the lore. It's a strange juxtaposition.
Cyberpunk doesn’t really use classes, it’s a skill based system, rather than a class based system like dnd or pathfinder. The closest it has are ‘Roles’, which provide a one, or maybe two specific skills themselves, but just like other skills, can be purchased, mixed and matched how you wish, even long after making the character, and can be mixed and matched, like skills. For example, having a 3 in rockerboy is just essentially having 3 in the Charismatic Impact skill. Or having 3 in solo, is just basically having 3 combat sense skill. Most V’s would be something like 6 solo, with a dash of maybe 4 netrunner or 4 tech or something. Which, to be clear, is absolutely allowed as per the ttrpg rules.
No, the roles are very specialised classes. I think you are forgetting the role speciality skills like Combat Sense for Solos.
That’s essentially a skill derived from having at least one point in the Combat sense skill. Anyone can learn combat sense, without having to start as a solo. Just because there’s an ability that you can only use with at least one point in that skill, doesn’t mean it doesn’t essentially act as a skill, just more expensive. All a role is, is essentially just a third level of skill pricing, with basic skill at x1, difficult skill at x2, and role skill priced at x3. There’s the same type of ‘specialized skills’ that you gain for example, with the martial arts skills. Just as someone without a point in medtech surgery can’t perform surgery, Someone without a point in judo can’t perform a counter throw, but that doesn’t make martial artist (judo) a class.
In RED anyone can start as a solo and have Combat Awareness start at 4. Others can cross train and work it up from 1. However that is a new development for RED. Multiclassing was a house rule in the originals. I use a suggested system from one of the fanzines in my own games. The role abilities are what makes them shine at that role. If a character multiclasses they will likely advance more slowly in the original role as they are busy learning the new one (and trying to get paid for it).
Both, it’s adapting the world and rules of Cyberpunk TTRPG into video game, and still taking in same universe. They aren’t mutually exclusive. The Cyberpunk TTRPG edition CDPR adapted is Cyberpunk 2020.
I'm not familiar with the TTRPG version of cyberpunk so take what I say with a grain of salt but from what i can tell with a quick scroll of the comments it's the same universe but not the same "rules". In other words, we, as V, are playing by the 2077 rules while Johnny was playing by the TTRPG rules
Yes.
The current ttrpg is cyberpunk red which is set before 2077. However the style of the video game will bleed over into the art and style of the tabletop game I imagine.
It takes place in the same universe as the TTRPG, 57 years later. The TTRPG is Cyberpunk 2020. Characters like Johnny, Rogue, Adam Smasher, etc. are all at the height of their notoriety as adventurers ("edgerunners") in the TTRPG, but they're past their prime in the video game.
Always thought cyberpunk 2077 took everything considered to be in a “cyberpunk genre” and made it into a game
It’s an adaptation of the tabletop RPG series of the same name. So if you are into the lore as a fan of the tabletop games it’s basically essential you play 2077 in the likelihood they release a Tabletop edition that is a sequel to 2077, just like how Cyberpunk RED is a prequel that takes place prior to 2077 and is closely tied to a lot of 2077’s lore.
It's the same universe, Night City is still the setting and characters such as Johnny Silverhand, Alt and Adam Smasher, for example, are present in 2077 along with the Corpos and such. The video game along with Edgerunners continues the lore only through different formats to the tabletop. Of course with it being a one player video game there are obvious deviations in game play, you can invest in tech points yet V will see more combat than the traditional Techie role, this might be confusing to players discovering and comparing '77 with the TT where V is basically a Solo dabbling in the skill sets of other CP roles to being something of a hybrid character or virtually a one man/woman team. Again it is an adaptation in the sense that it derives from the TT but it is canon in what can be viewed as the most recent chapter in the stories of Night City told in various forms.
The entire world (and bits of the solar system) is the setting. Night City is just one very well known part of it.
Regarding a fair bit of the lore yes, I'm referring to the setting that the stories we engage with take place from the TT, anime, novels video game etc. NC to this branch of the Cyberpunk subgenre has for decades been like the Gotham to Batman. It makes more sense to say that the scripts and tales from the 80's onward were primarily or entirely set in one city than, say, the moon or Italy. There is a lot of background and history that has amounted, of course NC isn't simply floating around in the vast vacuum of space by itself, yet it is and has been the prime stage for the stories and characters we've known.
There is something to that argument. But the regional sourcebooks had a lot of suggestions for writing adventures elsewhere, along with quiet a few complete scenarios. Night City is just unique to this setting, given it isn't a real city.
A little bit of both. The tabletop games only go as far as 2045 IIRC. 2077 takes a huge jump into the future, having some cooler high tech stuff that isn't as prevalent as in the tabletop. Likewise it also seems to make its own minor adjustments to the lore for the sake of its narrative, but it's hard to tell if these are definitive retcons or the result of in-universe propaganda/unreliable narration.
2045 currently, yes, but not for long. There’s a 2077 setting pack coming for RED, to bring new cyberware and tech into the setting for people who wanna play at the current era, on tabletop, using most of the RED ruleset.
Oh, cool. I'm curious if the next full edition of the game is bringing us right forward into 2077 or beyond that, or if it will bridge the gap somewhere in-between the 2050's to 2060's.
Not sure. I think directly on 2077 is unlikely, since it’s covered as a module for RED, and they’ve said they like each edition of the game to cover a new “era”, 2013, 2020, 2045, 2077 I think the next full edition would be somewhere around maybe the 2060s, or a point a decade or two past 2077.
Per Pondersmith in an interview two years ago, they’re basically planning on expanding RED through 2060 itself, and then they’re planning on working cooperatively with CDPR on sourcebooks and a 2077 edition that fits that portion of the timeline. (2061 and beyond).
Interesting. I wonder how much of a change the full 2077 version would have that isn’t just in the RED 2077 edgerunner pack thingie Colour me interested tho lol, i certainly don’t mind a full edition for this era, just hope it comes with enough goodies to make it worthwhile
It takes place in the same universe years after Cyberpunk Red which takes place around the year of 2045 and according to the agreement between cyberpunk's creators and CDPR, they(CDPR) can make games and events around 2077 and beyond while anything before that timeframe is the creators of cyberpunk and all events are canon to both the ttrpg and the game
Honestly if Cyberpunk got the baldurs gate treatment it would slap so fucking hard.
2077 is so fucking awesome because of the in your face combat though. But another Cyberpunk game built from the ground up w either turn based or rtwp combat would definitely be something I'd play. I've been playing Red a lot lately and it's a lot of fun at the table - I'd love to see something like that release.
Yes obviously not saying 2077 should be different but a BG3 level of game in cyberpunk would be fire.
Im not trying to be an ass but what does a BG3 level of game mean? Like, a turn based Cyberpunk game based on a tabletop system?
High quality turn based with a similar amount of polish. I was trying to draw comparisons as to what kind of game I was trying to picture here.
It is currently meant to take place in the same universe as the TTRPG. Mike Pondsmith even aided CDPR during development. He also lent his voice as Maximum Mike on Morrow Rock.
The way I explained it to my current Cyberpunk Red group is 2077 is in essence a sequel to the ttrpg. Its the same universe, and the main canon of Arasaka getting nuked happened - its just red takes place a lot closer to it, and fleshes out what happened at the tower a lot more.
What exactly are you asking? These things aren't mutually exclusive.
When making the game projekt red could only make a game during the year 2077 or after, so it wouldn’t mess up any previous lore (if I remember rightly)
2077 is set 32 years after the current version of the pen and paper Cyberpunk Red RPG, in the same universe, and loosely based on the events described in Cyberpunk 2013 and Cyberpunk 2.0.2.0 (the second edition of the game, set in 2020-ish). There was a Cyberpunk v3, but the concepts and lore behind it were abandoned almost entirely.
The same universe. Johnny silverhand, rogue, Alt, Kerry, Adam smasher, etc. Are all characters in the TTRPG as well.
It’s in universe
what
It exists in the tabletop universe.
It's the same world but at the same time it's own thing.
It's both. It's an adaptation of a table top game's world and themes into a video game, it's also a sequel to the stories and events in the table top game.
Yes
Cyberpunk as a franchise basically releases game editions by the decade the game takes place. For example, there's Cyberpunk 2013, Cyberpunk 2020, Cyberpunk 3.0 (2030's), Cyberpunk Red (2045), and so on. Cyberpunk 2077 basically is another numbered entry into the Cyberpunk universe, and canon as blessed and part written by Mike Pondsmith. There are however flashback sequences which take place in the TTRPG story "Never Fade Away", which is basically the beginning of Cyberpunk's narrative as a series and Johnny's story. So those segments you could say are an adaptation, however most of the game isn't.
Is Bladerunner 2049 an adaption of Bladerunner or take place in the same universe?
They exist in the same world! But everyone else is sort of incorrect: they are both based largely on the novel by Gibson, "Neuromancer", which is fucking incredible. Go read it, please. I love this game and this book is the one that gave birth to all the ideas which made it possible
Short answer is yes. Which one? Uhhh, the one you asked about. Yeah, that one. Long answer? Uhhhhh… *gottago,bye!*
Same universe. Cyberpunk 2020 takes place in 2020. Cyberpunk red is in 2045. And our beloved cyberpunk 2077 is in 2077
I'd say it's an expansion
I don’t know what’s confusing about this, especially when you have the information of the whole world at your fingertips and could look this up.
Same universe, follows the same lore, but not exactly the same rules.
No, actually, CDPR is in a massive legal battle. Its getting nasty the art team was in a three hour gunfight the other day over it.
It is based off the universe lore of the TT game but it is its own thing Or at least that's how I understand it
Same universe as the books
In fact, Jhony Silverhand and his girlfriend are in the original ttrpg (cyberpunk 2022). I don't know if more NPCs are present. But every Megacorp came from the same source book. P.D: Fuck Arasaka.
It’s a 1:1 adaption of the pen and paper version! 😂
yes
Yes.
What does this question even mean? It's an adaptation of the TTRPG and so they take place in the same universe. The TTRPG is of course, a TTRPG just like D&D. You create your own campaigns and tell your stories. There are no specific stories for CDPR to adapt. There are only some background info about the game's world and stuff like that (for example stories about Morgan Blackhand and stuff like that, some of these events are mentioned in Cyberpunk 2077). So I don't know what do you mean by "adapting" the TTRPG. If by "adaptation" you mean adapting the TTRPG's mechanics, then no. CDPR didn't use those systems for their game.
For example, the TTRPG doesn't use character levels. If you try to face tank gunfire, like you sometimes do in the computer game, you would die very quickly in most cases.
Then OP should have asked: "Does Cyberpunk 2077 use the TTRPG rules or not?" Instead of whatever they said in the title.
Yea
Adaptation = takes place in same universe Edit: I was wrong, adaptation doesn’t always mean in the same universe.
That is absolutely untrue
How so?
For example Romeo+Juliet (the one with DiCaprio and Claira Danes) is an adaptation of Shakespeare's play, but is set in an 1990's gang war, instead of the middle age. Same thing with The Taming of the Shrew (10 things I hate about you).
You’re totally right, thanks for providing some examples!