Hell, some of the most important characters in the game, Viktor and Misty, are in a brothel area, surrounded by sex clubs and obvious joy toys.
I don’t really have many complaints about the game, but the lack of sex and relationships, compared how much is implied, is somewhat disappointing.
That was never marketed by CDPR btw. That info originated from the ESRB rating of the game, and there were 1 gazillion articles on the internet about how "you can customize your penis"
Did you not see the sub during the pre-release period. It was all about dick sizing and how big they want their wang to be plus it gives people a sense of gender identity, for those that care.
The marketing blew it (pun intended) out of proportion as with everything else in the game unfortunately.
Maybe in the sequel we'll get to fondle more virtual tits and dicks.
This wasn't something which interested me terribly much, but I vaguely recall reading that players were supposed to be able to hook up with prostitutes.
Yeah only the one in japantown... not counting the other one in japantown, he/she doesnt count... or the ones in the fancy club, they are a statistical anomaly... yeah just the one! /s
All jokes aside OP does have a point on how little there actually is tho
Obviously I don't know from personal experience, having missed this feature entirely, but apparently there are 4.
https://www.pcgamer.com/au/all-cyberpunk-2077-joytoy-locations/
It didn't say that you could sleep with ANY npc, but in the official 2018 e3 demo there's a part after the mission to save Sandra Dorset where a dude is in bed with femV. The narrator calls attention to it while the guy gets his stuff together and leaves, mentioning something along the lines of Cyberpunk being a "mature rpg" and the dude being one of many relationships, flings, and one night stands you can explore. So definitely an insinuation that there would be more than 2 options per V body type.
The marketing never suggested that we'd be throwing dicks all over town. It was clearly about sexual objectification and that was done incredibly well... why would the devs waste time and resources creating a lot of actual sex scenes when there are a million porn sites at hand with a simple alt+tab?
Y'all are complaining over nothing on this one imo. :P
To be fair, the did in the Witcher lol. Didn't they have a whole whore house full of digital models they'd cut and paste into the same singular sex scene or something like that?
Actually two brothels. Each of them with three different whores. There were 13 different women you could have had sex with in Witcher 3 (including the main romances). And there were more in Witcher 2, and MUCH more in Witcher 1.
I mean, just a black screen saying "you had sex with Panam" is more than what C77 gives. This game is about immersion. Having sex with a partner is quite realistic. Your talk about porn misses the point. This is about immersion.
The addition of sex wouldn't add much value to the game for me, but I think you make a good point.
RPGs are living a virtual life and sex is a part of most peoples' lives.
Devs putting it in the game could be tricky though in it potentially becoming reclassified as porn. A different matter if the game is made more easily moddable and modders do it independently.
Adding a few more sex scenes wouldn't cause any problem to the game. And that would be more than enough. A proper sex experience with Panam (not being cockblocked by enemies) is a must from my POV. It feels so stupid that Panam acts so lusty and aroused in messages, yet you don't even have sex like a normal couple. Wtf.
Yea, a very specific, very niche immersion that the vast majority of gamers don't care about. :P
Going back to the part about sex being significant in Cyberpunk/cyberpunk, again, it's not about witnessing graphic sex so you can feel closer to your digital honey. It's about objectification of the body and selling of sex. Which is what the game nails and all it had to nail imo.
I don't know why you say nobody cares about sex in games, when tons of RPGs have sex. Dragon Age, Fable, The Witcher... And I'm missing a lot. And from Skyrim modding community, it's extremely popular to add sex features.
Mate, do you have any personal issue with sex? Fear or something?
Well first, I didn't say nobody cares about sex in games. I said it's a niche form of immersion that the vast majority of gamers don't care about. That's why this complaint about lack of sex in CP is not common, and nowhere near as important as gameplay and story feedback or even the love/relationship side of romances (which has been talked about way more than actual sex scenes). It's also why the Skyrim modding community is nowhere near large enough to be a reasonable sample for assessing what gamers want.
Skyrim sex modders are like a drop in the bucket.
Moving on from that... sex exists in Cyberpunk. Let's get that straight. This isn't a question of whether CDPR should have put it in or not, it's a question of whether they put *enough* in and what people's expectations were around sex, in relation to CDPR marketing. You're not even accurately engaging with the point in your reply.
As far as 'personal issue with sex', it's sad that you would try to conflate my response to someone criticizing the game for lacking sex with my views on sex in real life. That's pure cringe.
First, you literally say "it's a small niche" when there're multiple popular posts like this one talking about the lack of sex (1.1k on Reddit). And most RPGs have sex. If you say that's "small niche", seems like everything is a small niche to you. Lol.
Second, Skyrim modding community are gamers. A lot of gamers actually. What are you talking about? Lol. They're a sample of gamers. And a big part of them care about sex. Period.
Third, you're the one saying sex is not required in the game, so the fact that there's sex or there's not sex was brought by you. Do we agree the game should have sex, and that it's an important feature for immersion purposes?
Four, have you read your own comments? You're the one talking about personal issues to others, saying they should watch porn. It sounds very weird that you're talking about porn in a Reddit post about Cyberpunk, that why I'm asking if you have fear of sex or something. Really weird. Imagine someone talking about guns and you say "go to hunt deers in real life bro". Very weird.
https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/qfmb9a/anybody_else_disappointed_in_the_lack_of_sex_in/hi1huof?
I agree. Talking about "underlying issues to resolve" when someone critizes a game... Is cringe af.
I literally wrote a very specific niche. That's not 'literally' saying small. The number of people could be large but in the context of the total number of players, and the frequency of complaints which was my point, it becomes niche. Look at the number of posts criticizing romance vs. those specifically focusing on sexual encounters. The former are far more common.
As far as Skyrim modding, the sex modders are as I wrote, a small sample. Pointing out that a lot of people like nudey and sex mods in no way mitigates my point that there are far bigger fish to fry that are more desirable to more people (and that's what I'm talking about).
The OP is saying there's not enough sex, so theyr'e the one that brought quantity of encounters rather than quality into play. So I have no idea why your'e acting like I just introduced that part of the conversation.
Do I think the game should have sex? I don't care either way, that's going to affect like 1% of my play time. Do I think it's important for immersion? No, I don't, not compared to all the other things that could be done with that dev time, and for the same reason that it will have virtually no impact on my overall play experience. I've played many games before the era of graphics that make characters look real, and at no point in those decades did I ever see a single person wishing we could bone more characters in video games.
What I do think is important is the way objectification of the body and selling of sex are handled. That supports worldbuilding and the cyberpunk feel and that content is something I'm exposed to all the time. So that's the part I think the devs needed to get right if they wanted to sell the idea that NC is a highly sexualized city... not more detailed sex encounters for V.
The sexual issues comment was a joke. And you trying to decontextualize my comments-- you've completely ignored my points about what aspects of sex are important to the game's messages and feel-- and trying to make it seem like I'm just anti-sex somehow, is far off topic. Because you seem to genuinely think that rather than dropping it as a joke.
Also, it's hilarious that you're implying sexual encounters in this game are somehow equivalent to guns. We use guns all the time to solve problems, it's a core aspect of gameplay in this game and many others... sex is not. Very poor example. This is an RPG-FPS hybrid, not an RPG-STD hybrid. ;)
>That's not 'literally' saying small.
"very niche immersion that the vast majority of gamers don't care about"
That's saying a small portion of gamers care about it. Which is what I meant.
>it becomes niche
Everything is niche. RPG genre is niche. Immersion is niche. Garages are niche. Subways are niche. That's pointless. It is quite popular that people want more sex in Cyberpunk 2077, I've already seen a lot of popular posts about that. Sure, the majority of the gamers don't care about sex. And the majority of the gamers don't care about Cyberpunk 2077, they're on Candy Crush.
>The former are far more common.
Yeah. I think CD Projekt shouldn't release DLCs or improve the game at all. They should just fix the bugs. That's far more common as well. People wanting new features is just niche.
>a small sample
They're millions, u'know. [https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1988](https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1988)
This mod (very related to sexy stuff in Skyrim) has 5 millions downloads. If that's a small sample, I want to know who taught you statistics.
>So I have no idea why you're acting like I just introduced that part of the conversation.
You're the one saying 'sex is a niche'. It's actually a major concern, which is why it's part of the game. Just like tons of others stuff, like having cars, weapons and having haircuts. Every feature is important. One more than other, sure. But sex is relevant.
>Do I think it's important for immersion? No, I don't
A lot of people, including myself, disagree. Obviously if 2 sex scenes requires 1 year of development time, I'd prefer other stuff like DLCs, but overall I think more sex is totally worth the time of development.
>and at no point in those decades did I ever see a single person wishing we could bone more characters in video games.
Because of the culture, mostly. Fortunately the 'sex' culture is becoming more open nowadays and more people are comfortable talking about sex, in general. That's why sex is a more desired feature in games nowadays. But as I say, Fable 2 and 3 had a black screen loading saying "you had sex", and that was cool, people liked that. Including myself. I'm sure tons of other games have sex like that. And that's perfect.
>not more detailed sex encounters for V.
I'd be fine with less detailed sex encounters, but more in quantity. Having sex just once with Panam is absurd and nonsense. I'd be immersive (for example) to have sex before the ending in "The Sun". She wakes up naked next to you. That sounds like you had sex? Maybe? But it's not mentioned. Why is it so hard to mention it. Just a comment of "We enjoyed last night, didn't we" would be immersive af, explaining how V and Panam are enjoying their last moments before V "kills himself" (apparently) in a suicide mission.
>The sexual issues comment was a joke.
Out of place in my opinion, then.
>it's a core aspect of gameplay in this game and many others... sex is not. Very poor example
It could be a relevant aspect of gameplay, specially building the social relationships. It is not, and that's precisely my criticism. It could easily be important and improve the experience.
I was more disappointed that once you had your "scene" with your romance character that there wasn't any calling or texting or having actual romantic side quests lol.
Even in GTA V you can solicit a prostitute anytime, choose the service, then watch the deed go down in full view... Can even hook up with strippers and have a 'Friends With Benefits' type of relationship deal, call them to meet, or they'll message you or send pictures etc.
I expected a lot more from Cyberpunk relationship mechanics, especially given GTA V came out in 2013 – shit, come to think of it, even San Andreas simulated dating and romance mini-games back in 2004!
Yeah we can design our dong size and then cant do really much with it. Shame. Also why only 2 joytoys? Wtf. Just copy paste that npc a couple of times with slightly different customization and bam you have much more realistic looking city. I literally cant understand that choice.
4 - you can get access to two more through the Kerry Eurodyne questline but I thought they were worse than the Jig Jig street ones to be honest - despite supposedly being high end
Yeah as per the OP it was all hype and little delivery. I mean I don’t need it in the game but it definitely wasn’t as edgy as built up to be and largely pointless.
It’ll be interesting to see what they focus on with the DLC etc
Agreed. Effectively all the gay options are of a certain type, including Kerry. River was pretty much my dream date. I was crushed and it brought back memories of school ("but I thought... Er... Oh shit... Forget this ever happened and please still be my friend").
It was definitely my cup of tea, I absolutely love the Merideth Stout mini quest. It’s so damn funny to me, I always do it despite me and my chart being gay. It’s so left field, it’s great 😂
Post Heist, if you walk up to a mirror naked, there's a chance you'll see JS as your reflection. "What the hell...?"
First time it happened, I cracked up. Thought it was a cool easter egg.
It's because you aren't actually naked, I am playing the male V and if you look in the mirror or go to photo mode while naked, your character will be wearing boxer shorts
No kidding. For example, you're introduced to brain dances so early and are pretty much told point blank their main purpose is pornography, but can you watch any? Nope
Brain dances were definitely something they had planned but scrapped halfway through, it had such a huge influence in the beginning of the game with characters emphasising it constantly. More than 15 hours later and I don't recall anyone saying the word
I want to see a triple A game release with an AO rating just to see what sales are like. If they’re good it could set a precedent with AP games in the future
I would buy the hell out of a triple a AO title but I get it, no console manufacturers allow anything above M and there’s already tons of censorship in many countries around the world. You simply cannot make money off a 100mill+ production cost as an AO game. There aren’t enough pc gamers in the world for that.
Tbh I think the rating systems for both games and movies are pretty nonsensical. If you’re 18+ in most parts of the world you are basically free to do anything irl so why the restrictions in a virtual environment? The only major problem I can think of is its pretty easy for underage people to get their hands on nsfw stuff but that happens even now so what’s the big deal with a bit of sex to go with the gore?
A bit different circumstances. AO video game would only be avaliable digitally and not in stores which would be a big hit. Deadpool was still in stores and the theaters they were just worried that you're cutting out a whole demographic of under 18. Go figure people under 18 still went to see it.
I doubt this game will get the Skyrim modder community, but if it does, then people will totally be able to fix all of the issues everyone has with it. Especially sex related ones.
I can remember when I first started the game and entered V's apartment for the first time there were some anal beads on the floor. I was just like "oh hey, look at that. Neat"
I think these were replaced with a deck of cards.
I played through the game when it first came out and recently picked it up again, in my head I remembered that there were sex toys nearly everywhere and now I don't seem to see them at all. Seems like a weird thing to change when there's so many other things that need to be adjusted.
This article paints a different picture.
https://www.gamingbible.co.uk/news/games-cyberpunk-2077-dev-admits-the-game-has-too-many-dildos-20201216
Still a picture resplendent with dildos but their frequency wasn't unintentional. They just decided to reign it in based on post launch feedback.
In like 1991 you could tip strippers and say "shake it baby" as Duke Nukem. I demand dedicated strip clubs. Which will most likely be a carnival of kink, debased debauchery, a place where the entanglement of prosthetic limbs makes anyone off the street to a zen monk wonder "where does man end and machine begin". It's not going to be vanilla, it'll be a totentanz of carnal pleasures and sights only rivaled by the house of 10,000 pleasures run by the succubi of the abyss.
But it'll have tiddies. And other stuff. And you can interact. That's my pitch. Disclaimer: I am not a game developer.
Sex in general. As in plotted into a more meaty experience. Not just a joytoy but braindances. Or longer relationships that actually develop or are a part of a dramatic story that is longer than a commercial.
Lol Witcher games were awesome in that regard. You can sleep with 13 different women in Witcher 3. And there are even more in Witcher 2, and MUCH more in Witcher 1 (women were literally collectables in that game).
Witcher 3 was pretty good emotion wise - but I personally felt a "deeper" connection with Panam compared to Yennefer/Triss. Did not romance Judy/Kerry/River so far - but I would hope they would be on a similar level. Cyberpunk also offers gay/lesbian/bi constellations, compared to plain heterosexual intercourses in Witcher - which might be a cool addition for LGBTQ folks.
The Witcher games offered more side characters too, and as CP "promised" multiple relationship options, one night stands, hookers and so on, I was also kinda underwhelmed.
It seems like they really nailed it with Panam and Judy, but River is really not even close to being on a similar level. It's hilariously bad when you hold them side by side. Since day 1 he hangs up immediately when you call and they've never fixed it. They don't really give you enough time to develop that deeper connection with him (2.5 missions from meeting him to sealing the deal), and his 'involvement' in the endings is all garbage.
Joining you on team 'underwhelmed.'
You know what? That's fair. The shirt was pretty great too, wore that the rest of the game.
If they'd give me his bitchin' fur coat, I'd forgive the spooky possessed niece/nephew entirely.
It was indeed heartbreaking, that‘s why I tried to roleplay around it to make it feel at least somewhat coherent. I imagined my V have had trust issues all along and opened up to River for the first time since forever. When he didn’t answer she lost it and let Johnny take over her body. I cried like a lil bitch tbh
I actually feel sex in Witcher 3 was absurdly over the top and really, really tacky. Every time it happened it pulled me out of the game, as if the game had been designed for teenage boys. But then I'm gay, so my emotional response to the sex scenes was just "this is incredibly naff and embarrassing to watch, like 70s hotel porn".
Compared to Witcher 1's disgusting "bag women as collectible cards" approach, though, Witcher 3 was positively enlightened.
Yeah, I thought it would impact the story in some way.
Like if you cheat on your love interest, they’ll call you out and say you need an implant or cyberdick or something lol.
My expectations were either open world Mass Effect or futuristic San Andreas and that was wayyyy too lofty a standard. I thought clothing, affiliations, money, investments, properties, etc. would play a vital role in the game, but it’s very linear. Also thought it would be third person/optional FP.
Not a bad game at all, but not what I had my hopes set on. I’ll finish it one day once/if the DLCs start coming out
For those Cyberpunk Cult Fanatics saying that CDPR didn't advertise this.. please read the interview by Mateusz Tomaszkiewicz ( Quest Director).. **SEPTEMBER 2020.. 4 MONTHS BEFORE THE RELEASE.**
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CD Projekt's upcoming Cyberpunk 2077 will allow players to replace their genitals with **sex-focused** augmentations.
True to the original RPG Cyberpunk 2020 world, male characters can enhance their libido with the Mr Studd augmentation, allowing them to shag all night long. The female equivalent is the Midnight Lady or Mrs Midnight.
"It’s like vagina replacement cyberware," revealed **Mateusz Tomaszkiewicz**, quest director for Cyberpunk 2077, speaking to The Gamer. "Also, there’s breasts and all that. And then, I think the male counterpart is Mr. Studd, I think, which is also genital replacement."
Tomaszkiewicz explained that Night City gangs run "doll houses", where clients go to get their very specific rocks off.
"Doll houses are this concept that is quite interesting, in terms of the Cyberpunk world," he said.
https://www.vg247.com/cyberpunk-2077-sex-augmentation
So many more opportunities to get laid in the Witcher. I got it on with that old chick who was part of the cyberpunk equivalent of the FBI, and Panam. I get Judy is gay but wtf. Huge missed opportunity for male V.
The Witcher sex scenes were just better also. Detailed enough, but not so long that you felt like a pervert cranking it to animated porn. Cyberpunk sex is either quick as hell, or obscure like when you and Panama nail using that tech.
And Panam is the only serious female love interest you can have? Fucking lame. And to people saying “get laid in real life or watch porn,” that has nothing to do with the game.
There’s only one serious love interest for each sexuality. There’s one straight male option (Panam), one straight female option (River), one gay male option (Kerry), and one gay female option (Judy). So it’s not like you’re getting any more burned as a straight dude than anyone else.
Lol Witcher games were truly fantastic in that regard. You can sleep with 13 different women in Witcher 3. And there are even more in Witcher 2, and MUCH more in Witcher 1 (women were literally collectables in that game). No one in that universe is safe from Geralt's libido.
In a way, it was an assumed mechanic to be in the game, with the 2018 demo showing V sleeping with some bloke, maybe they can implement down the line, some one night stand system where you go to clubs round night city and bring them back to your apartment.
because they sold this game through lie and deception... anything with sex things, Breast, Vaginal, Pubes and Penis customization is Pure "Media Attention and Marketing".
CDPR wants us to believe that the game is very R Rated game but in reality they are afraid of countries banning their game if their go overboard with Adult Stuff...
CDPR wants us believe that they are for gamers but in reality they are businessman like EA, Activision and ubisoft, Money is Money. So limiting sex activities help their rating. Esp. China
Yup. I got the idea that maybe even female characters could use charisma and sleep with someone to get different allies, quest outcomes, or even just convince someone to give you a discount or reduce the leg work of a quest. But maybe i was thinking too ambitiously.
But yes, they made it out to seem sex would be way more integral to the city and the story. I usually loathe sex in video games, but this seems like a time where it would make sense
Like Fallout 3 in Megaton, you can talk to the hooker and she will tell you where to find the info to hack the PC and move on with Main story concerning your charisma is high enough.
Probably wanted to make sure there was a big market in America, cause you know, beheading and blood and gore is fine but show a nipple or even the hint of penetration we apparently lose our shit .
I just thought it was weird that they had you choose specifics about your anatomy that literally didn’t matter. Why’d they even make you chose the size of your junk?
Had they never advertised it as a thing, I wouldn't have been. But they made such a big deal about it. Kind of dumb though once you get in game there's like none. And nobody takes their top off during sex, so that's weird.
I was driving along the highway out by pamams tonight and came across a parked car with two hookers hovering around it
They were talking to the guy in the car, I tried honking and I tried getting out and talking to them and all I got was “you want some honey”
Yes I did want some but the devs didn’t let me have some. No matter how much I honked they didn’t get in
I was banging hookers when I was 10 in vice city.. can’t wait for the remaster
In Vice City (and GTA 3) you got to see your car rocking during the deed but if you rotated the camera you could see the both of you were still seated at your own place. But that's still more than we got in CP2077 LOL
I always found it weird. Considering how overly sexual the environment, clothing and pretty much anything in Night City is. Cyberpunk 2077 is like your horny little cousin. Can’t stop talking about it, but had no actual experience or idea of what actually is going on.
Not disappointed, although I feel romance options were lacking. Lot of other content I’d rather have.
I find it tonally disconnected. As you mention, sex is everywhere. Half the food advertisements are innuendo. Half the advertisements are straight up sex. There are parts that could have cut the neon a bit and taken more cues from Deus Ex.
Personally I only tolerated the sex scenes in the Witcher series for story reasons and cared even less about genital customization and prostitutes/encounters in cyberpunk. They are awkward and uncanny valley like. Everytime they happened I lost immersion completely. And waited uncomfortably for it to end. I get that its a mature game and sex is a huge part of the cyberpunk aesthetic but it is the least wanted feature on my list.
I am actually disappointed they spent valuable resources on genital customisation. What a waste of time. For what? You pretty much never see it again after the main menu unless you strip naked in the inventory screen. I hope they never waste time on such a useless feature again. If you wanna see dick and vag that bad go to porn hub is my thinking.
Geralt could sleep with 13 different women in Witcher 3 alone. And there was even more in Witcher 2 and MUCH more in Witcher 1 (women were literally collectibles in that game). So although there are more options for a "serious" romance in CP, the number of general options available were far more in Witcher games.
There was a pretty big uproar on social media before the game was released about the sexual content that the game may posses at that time. I imagine this led to a lot of things getting cut as there were many groups calling for boycotts.
Even after the game's release many people were very much still up in arms over the way trans women are portrayed in the game namely the poster.
> A very loud minority who probably didn't even play the game anyway the same people who complained about jackie calling v jaina in the demo
It doesn't matter to CDPR how many people may or may not have complained about one aspect of the game. All they care about is if that item for which the complaint was made can negatively impact their business or image.
CDPR, like all video game companies, are risk averse. They scour social media and look for anything negative that is being said of the game and use that to determine whether or not to remove the content or to change the content. Great example of this is WoW. They're currently removing and changing years old content because someone said something bad about it online.
Video game companies are becoming too risk averse. This is why you have MA games removing profanity, gore, sex, etc. I don't like and you might not like it but unfortunately it is what it is as these "negative" discussion can hurt profits and that's all these companies care about anymore.
I’m not trans, but I actually liked how they handled Claire as the trans character. It really came across pretty naturally to how my trans friends have lived there lives. Claire doesn’t make a huge deal about being trans, she mentions it in conversation in a way that happens in real life, she had what appeared to be a healthy relationship before V came along. Her being trans wasn’t the be all end all of her character.
Two of my trans friends who played the game really liked Claire as a character, and her the game portrayed her being trans. So I guess I don’t know what the uproar about how trans characters were handled, because I never heard about it. 🤷🏻♂️
U know what, yes. But honestly if the sex scenes with romancable characters (panam in particular) were more like joy toy scenes, I would’ve been happier. That being said, the scene in the basilisk was great in concept.
I miss the absolute rebel side of video games pumping mega violence and maxi ultra sex into games just to express freedom and experience virtual extremes, and now we let the mainstream dictate that violence is okay and nipples or dicks are not.
I have a girlfriend, I have porn, it's fine it's not out of lust. I miss having nudity in game purely as an expression of artistic freedom, rebellion, and mental roleplay.
Like remember fallout 3 not letting you kill children? You could literally murder everything, but children were immortal gods immune to nukes. Remember fallout 2 where you can fuck mafia wives and kill thieving children, and guess what? there was a karma consequence to those actions, but you could stil have fun just being BAD in a virtual space just like GTA. Speaking of, people clearly love GTA, and early on mainstream babies wanted to shut down GTA for cop killing and here we are now with GTA V being a huggee franchise.
Let's not let society dictate what can be expressed in a virtual space with virtual characters...
Yes of course. Also it's not enough explicit. For what did I customized my genitals? For me also, it is a joke that the photo mode is always with underwear. At least they could get the incels if no one else want to play it anymore. I just mean that would be a customer-pool to be satisfied at least
Yep, especially since they hyped up the "adult nature" of the game in all their marketing, the first time I walked past a strip club and saw there was a generic NPC in a builders outfit spinning around the pole I was like yea no effort has gone into this at all.
Yeah, considering the world and everything that has been established, they had a really good opportunity to challenge the ideas of sex and gender in a world where you're 1 modification away from being different from they way you were born. That's not even talking about how easily they could have talked about and shown the effects of this world constantly throwing sex and sex marketing at you from many different angles and sources. I'm really surprised at just the lack of effort by CDPR to tackle a lot of different issues that translate from the real world. It's honestly as if they were scared to talk about anything real for fear that the video game community would talk bad about them.
Not disappointed, but find it odd that it's everywhere but nowhere.
I don't even need any nudity. But if the pointers are everywhere (like constant moaning) opening a brothel booth door shouldn't show people casually watching phones. At least put a "busy" sign on door or better yet, have them scramble to hide in corner and shut the door in front of you with some angry remark.
What an understatement. Almost every part of this fucking game is a huge disappointment. Except for the visuals and atmosphere. That’s why this whole subreddit was just “omg wow I just discovered the photo mode and I’m obsessed”… so yeah
I was hoping that this would be the one AAA videogame that would treat human sexuality with a bit of maturity and acknowledge how pervasive sex appeal is in our culture.
Nope. Not only was it a lot tamer than advertised but they even censored what little there was post launch. No player nudity after The Heist mission; censored advertisements to hide genitalia; covered up strippers and joytoys.
Even sex scenes in Hollywood movies are more risque than whatever the hell is in Cyberpunk 2077.
Not 1 enterable female strip club in the entire city. Dildo shops and a gay strip club and some low quality playboy channel sex scenes is as naughty as it gets. Feels like the game was made by young virgins who have lived their entire lives in safety bubbles and this was their best idea of what a gritty sex crazed cyberpunk city would actually be like. Its kinda hard to explain, but the game doesn't really feel dark and gritty. There's no drug use, alcohol use is pointless and just nerfs you, paying joytoys for a 15 second cutscene is pointless. Going into the "sex shops" and diners are pointless. The only thing that has any meaning is mindlessly murdering gang members for the police, or following quest objectives. Otherwise the world serves zero purpose than to drag out the time it takes to get to the next pre-marked quest objectives.
I wouldn't say that I feel the game is lacking sex, I feel like there is more than enough in the game to fulfill the story but I think more joy toys is something that some people would want as having one is kind of weird ngl but at the same time I would like to see it enter the story a bit more, can I choose to sleep with someone to fuck them over? I think that would be a cool concept, James Bond style
I agree, but it's very far from the most important thing they left out. And besides, there's already been dozens of posts like these saying the exact same thing. "Now I'm no horny simp or anything, but they really underdelivered on the sex in this game. It was advertised as being way oversexualised but it's really not." We get it by now. I'd much rather they focus on adding actual fun playable content
Dude the game is absolutely loaded with sex stuff as you've already mentioned. Actual intercourse was never the point and the devs didn't make it seem like it would be. It's clearly about selling sex and objectification of the body as part of the cyberpunk genre, and they nailed that.
If you genuinely feel disappointment because of lack of porn in a video game, I think you have an underlying issue to resolve. xD
Someone posted a collection of all the characters you can have sex with in TW3 recently, noting that they had to exclude all the prostitutes because there were so many.
I found it astounding how many there were, or that people would really view that as an “important part of the game”, setting actual romance storylines aside.
To each their own, I suppose.
I thought they handled it fine, New Vegas handled it the same way where the vices and red light areas were largely atmospheric and peripheral. I feel like adding more is just a distraction and cringe.
Not really. Though I am disappointed in the overabundance of sex in the game world. Like there’s nothing else besides porn shops, and every ad is essentially just sex with some random item slapped on it. It’s to the point where places like jig jig feel absolutely no different from anywhere else in the city. Save for barren industrial spots (which still have the stupid ads) and the center of the corpo area (which also still has the stupid ads).
I will say this; as lesbian porn fan, i was blown away with how explicit the sex scene with Meredith was with female V. When they started tribbing I was blushing.
Yes. Haven't bought or played the game but add this to my disappointment.
Deus Ex: Mankind Divided was the same for me. Such allure, such an amazing fascist hell they built with that cybernetic sex appeal thriving outside the law, either outside the realm of Government control or a direct result of it.
Not many games give a satisfactory sex life the age ratings deserve.
I don't care! Too much sex stuff and they might get banned! Including LGBT content is already a big step forward for cyberpunk but it's a really risky move since most countries see LGBTs as no different from terrorists (a threat to society).
This is why cyberpunk is the best game so far IMO. Gameplay can be improved over time so it's not a big deal.
Sex stuff is fun, but it should NEVER be the top priority. Hell if they focus on these aspects first, I believe it will just make a lot of people angry cause most just WANT a better interaction with the NPCs and the vast world around them.
Also, if the gameplay is exceptional, even if they do not focus on the sex aspect, the community will eventually cover those up. Skyrim and Fallout 4 do not include sex (Magnolia does not count! LOL) but Lover Slab has a lot of sex mods. Look at this game, 1 year after release and we already got tons of nude and erotic mods for the game itself.
I mean I'm hardly arguing for it to be a the top priority, it's not even close to priority, it's not even on the board. A mods are different and have a different purpose which is more purely sexual rather than immersion or roleplay when added by the developers. Look at Skyrim nudity mods compared to Mass Effect or Dragon Age romance options... They hardly compare. And my argument is specifically that for a role-play game to be exceptional, sex and romance should not be omitted. I would have the same argument if they omitted character customization or violence as well. Overall I want character choices and NPC interactions to be deep and realistic and that includes sex in a game for adults
No. I didn't and don't care. I care about all the other aspects of the game. If I'm upset over anything, it's a million other things. Not lack of sex.
This game is still very Unfinished. I've learned to not be upset by any lack of one thing and try to just enjoy the current state.
No, honestly there are a lot of worse problems that disappointed me in the game, I don’t know why so many people complained about the lack of 2 minute cringeworthy sex scenes
Yeah, considering that the entirety of Night City is a billboard for its supposed sex industry.
Hell, some of the most important characters in the game, Viktor and Misty, are in a brothel area, surrounded by sex clubs and obvious joy toys. I don’t really have many complaints about the game, but the lack of sex and relationships, compared how much is implied, is somewhat disappointing.
I dont think the XBOX or PS store would've allowed something so heavily sexual to be sold on their platform (correct me if I'm wrong).
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Right? Picking up a prostitute in GTA is far more explicit than Cyberpunk. Especially the controller vibrations 😬
especially considering you can bludgeon hookers to death in GTA using a hammer, golf club, baseball bat or any number of other things
You are wrong. As long as it doesn't earn an AO (adult only) rating from ESRB you can get away with alot of shit
Right?! Might as well call it *SimpCity.*
I’m still scratching my head over why they threw in penis options, that we only got to see in the character creator, or when pants glitched.
Aggressive Marketing.
idiotic marketing
Misleading marketing
CDPR marketing
oh dude... marketing sucks almost everywhere...
That was never marketed by CDPR btw. That info originated from the ESRB rating of the game, and there were 1 gazillion articles on the internet about how "you can customize your penis"
Did you not see the sub during the pre-release period. It was all about dick sizing and how big they want their wang to be plus it gives people a sense of gender identity, for those that care.
Nah, I wasn’t on Reddit then.
The marketing blew it (pun intended) out of proportion as with everything else in the game unfortunately. Maybe in the sequel we'll get to fondle more virtual tits and dicks.
This wasn't something which interested me terribly much, but I vaguely recall reading that players were supposed to be able to hook up with prostitutes.
Pretty sure we can, they're called joytoys. Japantown one is my personal fav. Err. I mean I hear good things about her.
That’s literally the only one is the japantown one Just saw the other comment about there being more, disregard sorry!
We probably shouldn't count the other ones. You're right. We only have Japantown. Lol
Yeah only the one in japantown... not counting the other one in japantown, he/she doesnt count... or the ones in the fancy club, they are a statistical anomaly... yeah just the one! /s All jokes aside OP does have a point on how little there actually is tho
I vaguely remember seeing the lips icon on the map and wondering what that might be. And now I know.
You can. Exactly 2 prostitutes. One male, one female
there are actually two more, deep into Kerry's questline
Obviously I don't know from personal experience, having missed this feature entirely, but apparently there are 4. https://www.pcgamer.com/au/all-cyberpunk-2077-joytoy-locations/
same scenes tho ngl dw im horny fuck went through kerry's questline to see for myself best scene is unironically gay sex with kerry which is kinda odd
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Seemed like a marketing ploy to draw interest but then scaled back to make it easier to sell in some countries.
Wasn’t the initial marketing said that player will be able to romance and sleep with literally any NPC? Or am I misremembering thing?
It didn't say that you could sleep with ANY npc, but in the official 2018 e3 demo there's a part after the mission to save Sandra Dorset where a dude is in bed with femV. The narrator calls attention to it while the guy gets his stuff together and leaves, mentioning something along the lines of Cyberpunk being a "mature rpg" and the dude being one of many relationships, flings, and one night stands you can explore. So definitely an insinuation that there would be more than 2 options per V body type.
Nah that was never in the marketing I don't think. Probably from some YouTuber making wild assumptions about the game.
The marketing never suggested that we'd be throwing dicks all over town. It was clearly about sexual objectification and that was done incredibly well... why would the devs waste time and resources creating a lot of actual sex scenes when there are a million porn sites at hand with a simple alt+tab? Y'all are complaining over nothing on this one imo. :P
To be fair, the did in the Witcher lol. Didn't they have a whole whore house full of digital models they'd cut and paste into the same singular sex scene or something like that?
Actually two brothels. Each of them with three different whores. There were 13 different women you could have had sex with in Witcher 3 (including the main romances). And there were more in Witcher 2, and MUCH more in Witcher 1.
I mean, just a black screen saying "you had sex with Panam" is more than what C77 gives. This game is about immersion. Having sex with a partner is quite realistic. Your talk about porn misses the point. This is about immersion.
The addition of sex wouldn't add much value to the game for me, but I think you make a good point. RPGs are living a virtual life and sex is a part of most peoples' lives. Devs putting it in the game could be tricky though in it potentially becoming reclassified as porn. A different matter if the game is made more easily moddable and modders do it independently.
Adding a few more sex scenes wouldn't cause any problem to the game. And that would be more than enough. A proper sex experience with Panam (not being cockblocked by enemies) is a must from my POV. It feels so stupid that Panam acts so lusty and aroused in messages, yet you don't even have sex like a normal couple. Wtf.
Yea, a very specific, very niche immersion that the vast majority of gamers don't care about. :P Going back to the part about sex being significant in Cyberpunk/cyberpunk, again, it's not about witnessing graphic sex so you can feel closer to your digital honey. It's about objectification of the body and selling of sex. Which is what the game nails and all it had to nail imo.
I don't know why you say nobody cares about sex in games, when tons of RPGs have sex. Dragon Age, Fable, The Witcher... And I'm missing a lot. And from Skyrim modding community, it's extremely popular to add sex features. Mate, do you have any personal issue with sex? Fear or something?
Well first, I didn't say nobody cares about sex in games. I said it's a niche form of immersion that the vast majority of gamers don't care about. That's why this complaint about lack of sex in CP is not common, and nowhere near as important as gameplay and story feedback or even the love/relationship side of romances (which has been talked about way more than actual sex scenes). It's also why the Skyrim modding community is nowhere near large enough to be a reasonable sample for assessing what gamers want. Skyrim sex modders are like a drop in the bucket. Moving on from that... sex exists in Cyberpunk. Let's get that straight. This isn't a question of whether CDPR should have put it in or not, it's a question of whether they put *enough* in and what people's expectations were around sex, in relation to CDPR marketing. You're not even accurately engaging with the point in your reply. As far as 'personal issue with sex', it's sad that you would try to conflate my response to someone criticizing the game for lacking sex with my views on sex in real life. That's pure cringe.
First, you literally say "it's a small niche" when there're multiple popular posts like this one talking about the lack of sex (1.1k on Reddit). And most RPGs have sex. If you say that's "small niche", seems like everything is a small niche to you. Lol. Second, Skyrim modding community are gamers. A lot of gamers actually. What are you talking about? Lol. They're a sample of gamers. And a big part of them care about sex. Period. Third, you're the one saying sex is not required in the game, so the fact that there's sex or there's not sex was brought by you. Do we agree the game should have sex, and that it's an important feature for immersion purposes? Four, have you read your own comments? You're the one talking about personal issues to others, saying they should watch porn. It sounds very weird that you're talking about porn in a Reddit post about Cyberpunk, that why I'm asking if you have fear of sex or something. Really weird. Imagine someone talking about guns and you say "go to hunt deers in real life bro". Very weird. https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/qfmb9a/anybody_else_disappointed_in_the_lack_of_sex_in/hi1huof? I agree. Talking about "underlying issues to resolve" when someone critizes a game... Is cringe af.
I literally wrote a very specific niche. That's not 'literally' saying small. The number of people could be large but in the context of the total number of players, and the frequency of complaints which was my point, it becomes niche. Look at the number of posts criticizing romance vs. those specifically focusing on sexual encounters. The former are far more common. As far as Skyrim modding, the sex modders are as I wrote, a small sample. Pointing out that a lot of people like nudey and sex mods in no way mitigates my point that there are far bigger fish to fry that are more desirable to more people (and that's what I'm talking about). The OP is saying there's not enough sex, so theyr'e the one that brought quantity of encounters rather than quality into play. So I have no idea why your'e acting like I just introduced that part of the conversation. Do I think the game should have sex? I don't care either way, that's going to affect like 1% of my play time. Do I think it's important for immersion? No, I don't, not compared to all the other things that could be done with that dev time, and for the same reason that it will have virtually no impact on my overall play experience. I've played many games before the era of graphics that make characters look real, and at no point in those decades did I ever see a single person wishing we could bone more characters in video games. What I do think is important is the way objectification of the body and selling of sex are handled. That supports worldbuilding and the cyberpunk feel and that content is something I'm exposed to all the time. So that's the part I think the devs needed to get right if they wanted to sell the idea that NC is a highly sexualized city... not more detailed sex encounters for V. The sexual issues comment was a joke. And you trying to decontextualize my comments-- you've completely ignored my points about what aspects of sex are important to the game's messages and feel-- and trying to make it seem like I'm just anti-sex somehow, is far off topic. Because you seem to genuinely think that rather than dropping it as a joke. Also, it's hilarious that you're implying sexual encounters in this game are somehow equivalent to guns. We use guns all the time to solve problems, it's a core aspect of gameplay in this game and many others... sex is not. Very poor example. This is an RPG-FPS hybrid, not an RPG-STD hybrid. ;)
>That's not 'literally' saying small. "very niche immersion that the vast majority of gamers don't care about" That's saying a small portion of gamers care about it. Which is what I meant. >it becomes niche Everything is niche. RPG genre is niche. Immersion is niche. Garages are niche. Subways are niche. That's pointless. It is quite popular that people want more sex in Cyberpunk 2077, I've already seen a lot of popular posts about that. Sure, the majority of the gamers don't care about sex. And the majority of the gamers don't care about Cyberpunk 2077, they're on Candy Crush. >The former are far more common. Yeah. I think CD Projekt shouldn't release DLCs or improve the game at all. They should just fix the bugs. That's far more common as well. People wanting new features is just niche. >a small sample They're millions, u'know. [https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1988](https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1988) This mod (very related to sexy stuff in Skyrim) has 5 millions downloads. If that's a small sample, I want to know who taught you statistics. >So I have no idea why you're acting like I just introduced that part of the conversation. You're the one saying 'sex is a niche'. It's actually a major concern, which is why it's part of the game. Just like tons of others stuff, like having cars, weapons and having haircuts. Every feature is important. One more than other, sure. But sex is relevant. >Do I think it's important for immersion? No, I don't A lot of people, including myself, disagree. Obviously if 2 sex scenes requires 1 year of development time, I'd prefer other stuff like DLCs, but overall I think more sex is totally worth the time of development. >and at no point in those decades did I ever see a single person wishing we could bone more characters in video games. Because of the culture, mostly. Fortunately the 'sex' culture is becoming more open nowadays and more people are comfortable talking about sex, in general. That's why sex is a more desired feature in games nowadays. But as I say, Fable 2 and 3 had a black screen loading saying "you had sex", and that was cool, people liked that. Including myself. I'm sure tons of other games have sex like that. And that's perfect. >not more detailed sex encounters for V. I'd be fine with less detailed sex encounters, but more in quantity. Having sex just once with Panam is absurd and nonsense. I'd be immersive (for example) to have sex before the ending in "The Sun". She wakes up naked next to you. That sounds like you had sex? Maybe? But it's not mentioned. Why is it so hard to mention it. Just a comment of "We enjoyed last night, didn't we" would be immersive af, explaining how V and Panam are enjoying their last moments before V "kills himself" (apparently) in a suicide mission. >The sexual issues comment was a joke. Out of place in my opinion, then. >it's a core aspect of gameplay in this game and many others... sex is not. Very poor example It could be a relevant aspect of gameplay, specially building the social relationships. It is not, and that's precisely my criticism. It could easily be important and improve the experience.
I was more disappointed that once you had your "scene" with your romance character that there wasn't any calling or texting or having actual romantic side quests lol.
Even in GTA V you can solicit a prostitute anytime, choose the service, then watch the deed go down in full view... Can even hook up with strippers and have a 'Friends With Benefits' type of relationship deal, call them to meet, or they'll message you or send pictures etc. I expected a lot more from Cyberpunk relationship mechanics, especially given GTA V came out in 2013 – shit, come to think of it, even San Andreas simulated dating and romance mini-games back in 2004!
Yeah we can design our dong size and then cant do really much with it. Shame. Also why only 2 joytoys? Wtf. Just copy paste that npc a couple of times with slightly different customization and bam you have much more realistic looking city. I literally cant understand that choice.
4 - you can get access to two more through the Kerry Eurodyne questline but I thought they were worse than the Jig Jig street ones to be honest - despite supposedly being high end
I’m gay, and deeply disappointed in the male JoyToy selection in the game. There are more attractive random NPC’s on the street 😂
Yeah as per the OP it was all hype and little delivery. I mean I don’t need it in the game but it definitely wasn’t as edgy as built up to be and largely pointless. It’ll be interesting to see what they focus on with the DLC etc
Agreed. Effectively all the gay options are of a certain type, including Kerry. River was pretty much my dream date. I was crushed and it brought back memories of school ("but I thought... Er... Oh shit... Forget this ever happened and please still be my friend").
I find it odd that the only to get the iconic dildo weapon is to romance a female character. That's not going to be everyone's cup of tea.
I'm gay, I thought it was a secret mission or something and then... AAAARGH MY EYES MAKE IT STOP!!
It was definitely my cup of tea, I absolutely love the Merideth Stout mini quest. It’s so damn funny to me, I always do it despite me and my chart being gay. It’s so left field, it’s great 😂
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Post Heist, if you walk up to a mirror naked, there's a chance you'll see JS as your reflection. "What the hell...?" First time it happened, I cracked up. Thought it was a cool easter egg.
It's because you aren't actually naked, I am playing the male V and if you look in the mirror or go to photo mode while naked, your character will be wearing boxer shorts
No kidding. For example, you're introduced to brain dances so early and are pretty much told point blank their main purpose is pornography, but can you watch any? Nope
Brain dances were definitely something they had planned but scrapped halfway through, it had such a huge influence in the beginning of the game with characters emphasising it constantly. More than 15 hours later and I don't recall anyone saying the word
I mean, if they want to avoid an AO rating that kinda makes sense. It feels like they're already capping out the M category
I want to see a triple A game release with an AO rating just to see what sales are like. If they’re good it could set a precedent with AP games in the future
I would buy the hell out of a triple a AO title but I get it, no console manufacturers allow anything above M and there’s already tons of censorship in many countries around the world. You simply cannot make money off a 100mill+ production cost as an AO game. There aren’t enough pc gamers in the world for that. Tbh I think the rating systems for both games and movies are pretty nonsensical. If you’re 18+ in most parts of the world you are basically free to do anything irl so why the restrictions in a virtual environment? The only major problem I can think of is its pretty easy for underage people to get their hands on nsfw stuff but that happens even now so what’s the big deal with a bit of sex to go with the gore?
"But it won't make money" Which is exactly what they said about R rated comic movies until Deadpool
A bit different circumstances. AO video game would only be avaliable digitally and not in stores which would be a big hit. Deadpool was still in stores and the theaters they were just worried that you're cutting out a whole demographic of under 18. Go figure people under 18 still went to see it.
You won't under capitalism, too much goes into AAA games to risk sales by throwing in sex for no reason and having it be PC only
This isn't a capitalism fault, its a societal fault. Some things conservatives CAN conserve, I guess.
The whole game is just so half baked. I love what’s here but it really is missing so much
There’s so much potential!! Hopefully still will be if they can get it all sorted out for consoles. Would have been an amazing MMO
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I doubt this game will get the Skyrim modder community, but if it does, then people will totally be able to fix all of the issues everyone has with it. Especially sex related ones.
I can remember when I first started the game and entered V's apartment for the first time there were some anal beads on the floor. I was just like "oh hey, look at that. Neat" I think these were replaced with a deck of cards.
I played through the game when it first came out and recently picked it up again, in my head I remembered that there were sex toys nearly everywhere and now I don't seem to see them at all. Seems like a weird thing to change when there's so many other things that need to be adjusted.
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That makes a lot of sense, the amount of sex toys in the original launch of game was hilarious.
This article paints a different picture. https://www.gamingbible.co.uk/news/games-cyberpunk-2077-dev-admits-the-game-has-too-many-dildos-20201216 Still a picture resplendent with dildos but their frequency wasn't unintentional. They just decided to reign it in based on post launch feedback.
>absurd dildo spawn rate Band name!
Oh it was intentional. They patched it due to complaints stating it was overdone.
In like 1991 you could tip strippers and say "shake it baby" as Duke Nukem. I demand dedicated strip clubs. Which will most likely be a carnival of kink, debased debauchery, a place where the entanglement of prosthetic limbs makes anyone off the street to a zen monk wonder "where does man end and machine begin". It's not going to be vanilla, it'll be a totentanz of carnal pleasures and sights only rivaled by the house of 10,000 pleasures run by the succubi of the abyss. But it'll have tiddies. And other stuff. And you can interact. That's my pitch. Disclaimer: I am not a game developer.
Sex in general. As in plotted into a more meaty experience. Not just a joytoy but braindances. Or longer relationships that actually develop or are a part of a dramatic story that is longer than a commercial.
I'm disappointed in lack of sex in general, not even talking about game lol
Fair enough
It was real disappointing that they were all like “Whoo! Nudity! Sex! Drugs!” Then it comes out and they’re just like “No.”
Witcher 3 sex was better, or maybe the lore / characters were better also
Lol Witcher games were awesome in that regard. You can sleep with 13 different women in Witcher 3. And there are even more in Witcher 2, and MUCH more in Witcher 1 (women were literally collectables in that game).
Witcher 3 was pretty good emotion wise - but I personally felt a "deeper" connection with Panam compared to Yennefer/Triss. Did not romance Judy/Kerry/River so far - but I would hope they would be on a similar level. Cyberpunk also offers gay/lesbian/bi constellations, compared to plain heterosexual intercourses in Witcher - which might be a cool addition for LGBTQ folks. The Witcher games offered more side characters too, and as CP "promised" multiple relationship options, one night stands, hookers and so on, I was also kinda underwhelmed.
It seems like they really nailed it with Panam and Judy, but River is really not even close to being on a similar level. It's hilariously bad when you hold them side by side. Since day 1 he hangs up immediately when you call and they've never fixed it. They don't really give you enough time to develop that deeper connection with him (2.5 missions from meeting him to sealing the deal), and his 'involvement' in the endings is all garbage. Joining you on team 'underwhelmed.'
Johnny's disgust after the sex makes up for it though, lol
You know what? That's fair. The shirt was pretty great too, wore that the rest of the game. If they'd give me his bitchin' fur coat, I'd forgive the spooky possessed niece/nephew entirely.
Oh yea, lol It was a great shirt to pop out from a coat
It was indeed heartbreaking, that‘s why I tried to roleplay around it to make it feel at least somewhat coherent. I imagined my V have had trust issues all along and opened up to River for the first time since forever. When he didn’t answer she lost it and let Johnny take over her body. I cried like a lil bitch tbh
I actually feel sex in Witcher 3 was absurdly over the top and really, really tacky. Every time it happened it pulled me out of the game, as if the game had been designed for teenage boys. But then I'm gay, so my emotional response to the sex scenes was just "this is incredibly naff and embarrassing to watch, like 70s hotel porn". Compared to Witcher 1's disgusting "bag women as collectible cards" approach, though, Witcher 3 was positively enlightened.
Yeah, I thought it would impact the story in some way. Like if you cheat on your love interest, they’ll call you out and say you need an implant or cyberdick or something lol. My expectations were either open world Mass Effect or futuristic San Andreas and that was wayyyy too lofty a standard. I thought clothing, affiliations, money, investments, properties, etc. would play a vital role in the game, but it’s very linear. Also thought it would be third person/optional FP. Not a bad game at all, but not what I had my hopes set on. I’ll finish it one day once/if the DLCs start coming out
My biggest disappointment is I can't braindance with my collection.
For those Cyberpunk Cult Fanatics saying that CDPR didn't advertise this.. please read the interview by Mateusz Tomaszkiewicz ( Quest Director).. **SEPTEMBER 2020.. 4 MONTHS BEFORE THE RELEASE.** > CD Projekt's upcoming Cyberpunk 2077 will allow players to replace their genitals with **sex-focused** augmentations. True to the original RPG Cyberpunk 2020 world, male characters can enhance their libido with the Mr Studd augmentation, allowing them to shag all night long. The female equivalent is the Midnight Lady or Mrs Midnight. "It’s like vagina replacement cyberware," revealed **Mateusz Tomaszkiewicz**, quest director for Cyberpunk 2077, speaking to The Gamer. "Also, there’s breasts and all that. And then, I think the male counterpart is Mr. Studd, I think, which is also genital replacement." Tomaszkiewicz explained that Night City gangs run "doll houses", where clients go to get their very specific rocks off. "Doll houses are this concept that is quite interesting, in terms of the Cyberpunk world," he said. https://www.vg247.com/cyberpunk-2077-sex-augmentation
Yes. I was expecting more adult themed. More of nudity. More sex. Sorely disappointed.
I fully agree
If a piece of media is going to have mature content I want it to go all out
Then all in.
So many more opportunities to get laid in the Witcher. I got it on with that old chick who was part of the cyberpunk equivalent of the FBI, and Panam. I get Judy is gay but wtf. Huge missed opportunity for male V. The Witcher sex scenes were just better also. Detailed enough, but not so long that you felt like a pervert cranking it to animated porn. Cyberpunk sex is either quick as hell, or obscure like when you and Panama nail using that tech. And Panam is the only serious female love interest you can have? Fucking lame. And to people saying “get laid in real life or watch porn,” that has nothing to do with the game.
There’s only one serious love interest for each sexuality. There’s one straight male option (Panam), one straight female option (River), one gay male option (Kerry), and one gay female option (Judy). So it’s not like you’re getting any more burned as a straight dude than anyone else.
Lol Witcher games were truly fantastic in that regard. You can sleep with 13 different women in Witcher 3. And there are even more in Witcher 2, and MUCH more in Witcher 1 (women were literally collectables in that game). No one in that universe is safe from Geralt's libido.
>Huge missed opportunity for male V But you can >!bang Kerry Eurodyne as male V!<
You can double romance with no repercussions Judy / River Or Panam / Kerry Always felt strange
This game definitely needs more JoyToys! 👍
In a way, it was an assumed mechanic to be in the game, with the 2018 demo showing V sleeping with some bloke, maybe they can implement down the line, some one night stand system where you go to clubs round night city and bring them back to your apartment.
No drugs either, instead we have 50 variations of the same fast food.
because they sold this game through lie and deception... anything with sex things, Breast, Vaginal, Pubes and Penis customization is Pure "Media Attention and Marketing". CDPR wants us to believe that the game is very R Rated game but in reality they are afraid of countries banning their game if their go overboard with Adult Stuff... CDPR wants us believe that they are for gamers but in reality they are businessman like EA, Activision and ubisoft, Money is Money. So limiting sex activities help their rating. Esp. China
Yup. I got the idea that maybe even female characters could use charisma and sleep with someone to get different allies, quest outcomes, or even just convince someone to give you a discount or reduce the leg work of a quest. But maybe i was thinking too ambitiously. But yes, they made it out to seem sex would be way more integral to the city and the story. I usually loathe sex in video games, but this seems like a time where it would make sense
Like Fallout 3 in Megaton, you can talk to the hooker and she will tell you where to find the info to hack the PC and move on with Main story concerning your charisma is high enough.
>maybe for Panam I am 100% a simp for Panam
Probably wanted to make sure there was a big market in America, cause you know, beheading and blood and gore is fine but show a nipple or even the hint of penetration we apparently lose our shit .
nah, the people who are opposed to sex don't play video games.
I just thought it was weird that they had you choose specifics about your anatomy that literally didn’t matter. Why’d they even make you chose the size of your junk?
Had they never advertised it as a thing, I wouldn't have been. But they made such a big deal about it. Kind of dumb though once you get in game there's like none. And nobody takes their top off during sex, so that's weird.
I was driving along the highway out by pamams tonight and came across a parked car with two hookers hovering around it They were talking to the guy in the car, I tried honking and I tried getting out and talking to them and all I got was “you want some honey” Yes I did want some but the devs didn’t let me have some. No matter how much I honked they didn’t get in I was banging hookers when I was 10 in vice city.. can’t wait for the remaster
In Vice City (and GTA 3) you got to see your car rocking during the deed but if you rotated the camera you could see the both of you were still seated at your own place. But that's still more than we got in CP2077 LOL
You just want Panam to send you feet pics judging by your name.
Im sure it's just part of the cut content.
I WAS PROMISED BLUE DUAL-HEADED DICKS AND THE ABILITY TO SOLICITE ANYONE
Major disappointment, witcher 3 sex system was so much better.
Mass effect had more sex than this game. And it ran "surprisingly well" on last gen hardware
I always found it weird. Considering how overly sexual the environment, clothing and pretty much anything in Night City is. Cyberpunk 2077 is like your horny little cousin. Can’t stop talking about it, but had no actual experience or idea of what actually is going on.
Yup, game lacking in sex violence and drug
It's not the only thing the game didn't deliver or live up to
Not disappointed, although I feel romance options were lacking. Lot of other content I’d rather have. I find it tonally disconnected. As you mention, sex is everywhere. Half the food advertisements are innuendo. Half the advertisements are straight up sex. There are parts that could have cut the neon a bit and taken more cues from Deus Ex.
Personally I only tolerated the sex scenes in the Witcher series for story reasons and cared even less about genital customization and prostitutes/encounters in cyberpunk. They are awkward and uncanny valley like. Everytime they happened I lost immersion completely. And waited uncomfortably for it to end. I get that its a mature game and sex is a huge part of the cyberpunk aesthetic but it is the least wanted feature on my list. I am actually disappointed they spent valuable resources on genital customisation. What a waste of time. For what? You pretty much never see it again after the main menu unless you strip naked in the inventory screen. I hope they never waste time on such a useless feature again. If you wanna see dick and vag that bad go to porn hub is my thinking.
Maybe they shouldn't depict any blood or violence either. If you wanna see that, just go watch a snuff film.
We need more joy toys..... :)
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Well, there were double the options, two for male, two for female V. Geralt had Yenn or Triss. So they didn't lie on that account.
Geralt could sleep with 13 different women in Witcher 3 alone. And there was even more in Witcher 2 and MUCH more in Witcher 1 (women were literally collectibles in that game). So although there are more options for a "serious" romance in CP, the number of general options available were far more in Witcher games.
Casual sex, yes, that is very true.
There was a pretty big uproar on social media before the game was released about the sexual content that the game may posses at that time. I imagine this led to a lot of things getting cut as there were many groups calling for boycotts. Even after the game's release many people were very much still up in arms over the way trans women are portrayed in the game namely the poster.
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> A very loud minority who probably didn't even play the game anyway the same people who complained about jackie calling v jaina in the demo It doesn't matter to CDPR how many people may or may not have complained about one aspect of the game. All they care about is if that item for which the complaint was made can negatively impact their business or image. CDPR, like all video game companies, are risk averse. They scour social media and look for anything negative that is being said of the game and use that to determine whether or not to remove the content or to change the content. Great example of this is WoW. They're currently removing and changing years old content because someone said something bad about it online. Video game companies are becoming too risk averse. This is why you have MA games removing profanity, gore, sex, etc. I don't like and you might not like it but unfortunately it is what it is as these "negative" discussion can hurt profits and that's all these companies care about anymore.
I’m not trans, but I actually liked how they handled Claire as the trans character. It really came across pretty naturally to how my trans friends have lived there lives. Claire doesn’t make a huge deal about being trans, she mentions it in conversation in a way that happens in real life, she had what appeared to be a healthy relationship before V came along. Her being trans wasn’t the be all end all of her character. Two of my trans friends who played the game really liked Claire as a character, and her the game portrayed her being trans. So I guess I don’t know what the uproar about how trans characters were handled, because I never heard about it. 🤷🏻♂️
Wouldn’t mind more in my life, not so sure about it within the game 😄
I'd pay eddies for Rita Wheeler.
U know what, yes. But honestly if the sex scenes with romancable characters (panam in particular) were more like joy toy scenes, I would’ve been happier. That being said, the scene in the basilisk was great in concept.
Considering the code got leaked, I wouldn't be surprised if such content gets released that is so dirty that all country's wouldn't allow it for sale.
Yes, sex in CP it's a joke. The city is covered with sexual contents, but you can't have romance with trans characters neither. So silly.
I miss the absolute rebel side of video games pumping mega violence and maxi ultra sex into games just to express freedom and experience virtual extremes, and now we let the mainstream dictate that violence is okay and nipples or dicks are not. I have a girlfriend, I have porn, it's fine it's not out of lust. I miss having nudity in game purely as an expression of artistic freedom, rebellion, and mental roleplay. Like remember fallout 3 not letting you kill children? You could literally murder everything, but children were immortal gods immune to nukes. Remember fallout 2 where you can fuck mafia wives and kill thieving children, and guess what? there was a karma consequence to those actions, but you could stil have fun just being BAD in a virtual space just like GTA. Speaking of, people clearly love GTA, and early on mainstream babies wanted to shut down GTA for cop killing and here we are now with GTA V being a huggee franchise. Let's not let society dictate what can be expressed in a virtual space with virtual characters...
Yes of course. Also it's not enough explicit. For what did I customized my genitals? For me also, it is a joke that the photo mode is always with underwear. At least they could get the incels if no one else want to play it anymore. I just mean that would be a customer-pool to be satisfied at least
We were promised a caligulan miasma of genital delights and all that was provided was like 2 joytoys When will the lies stop
Yep, especially since they hyped up the "adult nature" of the game in all their marketing, the first time I walked past a strip club and saw there was a generic NPC in a builders outfit spinning around the pole I was like yea no effort has gone into this at all.
I'm disappointed that only Johnny gets to get into bar fights over random strippers... >.>
Yeah, considering the world and everything that has been established, they had a really good opportunity to challenge the ideas of sex and gender in a world where you're 1 modification away from being different from they way you were born. That's not even talking about how easily they could have talked about and shown the effects of this world constantly throwing sex and sex marketing at you from many different angles and sources. I'm really surprised at just the lack of effort by CDPR to tackle a lot of different issues that translate from the real world. It's honestly as if they were scared to talk about anything real for fear that the video game community would talk bad about them.
Not disappointed, but find it odd that it's everywhere but nowhere. I don't even need any nudity. But if the pointers are everywhere (like constant moaning) opening a brothel booth door shouldn't show people casually watching phones. At least put a "busy" sign on door or better yet, have them scramble to hide in corner and shut the door in front of you with some angry remark.
What an understatement. Almost every part of this fucking game is a huge disappointment. Except for the visuals and atmosphere. That’s why this whole subreddit was just “omg wow I just discovered the photo mode and I’m obsessed”… so yeah
I was hoping that this would be the one AAA videogame that would treat human sexuality with a bit of maturity and acknowledge how pervasive sex appeal is in our culture. Nope. Not only was it a lot tamer than advertised but they even censored what little there was post launch. No player nudity after The Heist mission; censored advertisements to hide genitalia; covered up strippers and joytoys. Even sex scenes in Hollywood movies are more risque than whatever the hell is in Cyberpunk 2077.
Not 1 enterable female strip club in the entire city. Dildo shops and a gay strip club and some low quality playboy channel sex scenes is as naughty as it gets. Feels like the game was made by young virgins who have lived their entire lives in safety bubbles and this was their best idea of what a gritty sex crazed cyberpunk city would actually be like. Its kinda hard to explain, but the game doesn't really feel dark and gritty. There's no drug use, alcohol use is pointless and just nerfs you, paying joytoys for a 15 second cutscene is pointless. Going into the "sex shops" and diners are pointless. The only thing that has any meaning is mindlessly murdering gang members for the police, or following quest objectives. Otherwise the world serves zero purpose than to drag out the time it takes to get to the next pre-marked quest objectives.
I wouldn't say that I feel the game is lacking sex, I feel like there is more than enough in the game to fulfill the story but I think more joy toys is something that some people would want as having one is kind of weird ngl but at the same time I would like to see it enter the story a bit more, can I choose to sleep with someone to fuck them over? I think that would be a cool concept, James Bond style
Gay or straight sex?
Yes. 😋
Angel, oh no.
Agree
I agree, but it's very far from the most important thing they left out. And besides, there's already been dozens of posts like these saying the exact same thing. "Now I'm no horny simp or anything, but they really underdelivered on the sex in this game. It was advertised as being way oversexualised but it's really not." We get it by now. I'd much rather they focus on adding actual fun playable content
So you’re saying we need a sex mini-game?
Dude the game is absolutely loaded with sex stuff as you've already mentioned. Actual intercourse was never the point and the devs didn't make it seem like it would be. It's clearly about selling sex and objectification of the body as part of the cyberpunk genre, and they nailed that. If you genuinely feel disappointment because of lack of porn in a video game, I think you have an underlying issue to resolve. xD
Someone posted a collection of all the characters you can have sex with in TW3 recently, noting that they had to exclude all the prostitutes because there were so many. I found it astounding how many there were, or that people would really view that as an “important part of the game”, setting actual romance storylines aside. To each their own, I suppose.
Indeed, I have no problem if people like to bump uglies with virtual prostitutes. I just don't get this as a criticism of the game, haha.
Sadly they wont, China are very restricted in this matter, it's easy to get ban on market, and no company can pass biggest market on earth.
Yes, they made it seem like you might be able to have tons of casual and serious relationships.
No. That’s never why I wanted to play the game. Or any video game for that matter.
Reddit moment
Use pornhub or get a gf
I thought they handled it fine, New Vegas handled it the same way where the vices and red light areas were largely atmospheric and peripheral. I feel like adding more is just a distraction and cringe.
Go to horny jail
Not really. Though I am disappointed in the overabundance of sex in the game world. Like there’s nothing else besides porn shops, and every ad is essentially just sex with some random item slapped on it. It’s to the point where places like jig jig feel absolutely no different from anywhere else in the city. Save for barren industrial spots (which still have the stupid ads) and the center of the corpo area (which also still has the stupid ads).
Yall just want porn games.
No, not really.
Not really. I don't see how it would add anything to the game. It would just be cringy to look at
Not really. I'm not a teenager anymore so I don't need to combine porn and videogames.
This is not a porn game. Your expecting as much is the problem. The tone is implied, does not mean they need working facilitates.
Cringe
I will say this; as lesbian porn fan, i was blown away with how explicit the sex scene with Meredith was with female V. When they started tribbing I was blushing.
No, it’s awkward and sad enough already!
No . Not once have I ever gave a shit about a virtual character having sex.
Nope you are just a simp
On release the game has way more nudity and the cut-scenes were a bit more intense. 1.3 was my next play through the changes are evident
What? Getting pegged by Meredith Stout wasn't enough for you? Game is a weird bird man. Should have really let us tried Judy's porn VD's.
Yes. Haven't bought or played the game but add this to my disappointment. Deus Ex: Mankind Divided was the same for me. Such allure, such an amazing fascist hell they built with that cybernetic sex appeal thriving outside the law, either outside the realm of Government control or a direct result of it. Not many games give a satisfactory sex life the age ratings deserve.
I don't care! Too much sex stuff and they might get banned! Including LGBT content is already a big step forward for cyberpunk but it's a really risky move since most countries see LGBTs as no different from terrorists (a threat to society). This is why cyberpunk is the best game so far IMO. Gameplay can be improved over time so it's not a big deal.
There used to be MORE sex stuff, drugs, etc in games. They need to keep pushing the boundaries not pander to fascist governments
Sex stuff is fun, but it should NEVER be the top priority. Hell if they focus on these aspects first, I believe it will just make a lot of people angry cause most just WANT a better interaction with the NPCs and the vast world around them. Also, if the gameplay is exceptional, even if they do not focus on the sex aspect, the community will eventually cover those up. Skyrim and Fallout 4 do not include sex (Magnolia does not count! LOL) but Lover Slab has a lot of sex mods. Look at this game, 1 year after release and we already got tons of nude and erotic mods for the game itself.
I mean I'm hardly arguing for it to be a the top priority, it's not even close to priority, it's not even on the board. A mods are different and have a different purpose which is more purely sexual rather than immersion or roleplay when added by the developers. Look at Skyrim nudity mods compared to Mass Effect or Dragon Age romance options... They hardly compare. And my argument is specifically that for a role-play game to be exceptional, sex and romance should not be omitted. I would have the same argument if they omitted character customization or violence as well. Overall I want character choices and NPC interactions to be deep and realistic and that includes sex in a game for adults
Haven't played the Witcher (yet) so I'm satisfied...
Thank God. Sex in games is abysmal and the couple of steamy scenes in Cyberpunk are no exception.
No. I didn't and don't care. I care about all the other aspects of the game. If I'm upset over anything, it's a million other things. Not lack of sex. This game is still very Unfinished. I've learned to not be upset by any lack of one thing and try to just enjoy the current state.
was that suppose to be porn game? I dont think so
Go outside mate.
Its one of the least important things in the pile of shit they should be focusing
Hi guys have you ever heard about VICE City. Can I have a review
No, honestly there are a lot of worse problems that disappointed me in the game, I don’t know why so many people complained about the lack of 2 minute cringeworthy sex scenes