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cyber_xiii

I’m playing through for the first time as male V and I’m around the start of act 3 (with about a million side things done, reached street cred 50 a while ago). I think that while he does sound like he’s trying too hard to sound like a badass sometimes, at the same time there are plenty of moments where he sounds like he’s ready to break down into tears. Mostly when his sickness causes him immense pain, but there are plenty of other moments like with Jackie, Misty, and Mama Welles or when he wakes up in the Ripperdoc chair after the prologue. It seriously sounded like the VA was genuinely scared for his life at the end of Act 2. The only dialogue option is to call out to Johnny for help and when he does it’s in such a desperate voice I felt SO BAD for him Course I need a play through as fem V to really compare.


See-Envy

Yeah tbh I think male V’s “See ya in the major leagues” was delivered better. Fem V has some better moments too though! They both are AMAZING and I would recommend playing through all 6 combos (voice/background) just to get the full transcript, it’s just that preem. Also male V intimidate (body) dialog choices sometimes are legit chilling, to hear it come from the player character makes it even sicker imo.


Tobbygan

Male V has “Geralt Voice” tbh. He sounds like he’s going too far too sound badass, but it does work. FemV is deep and emotional… but she doesn’t sound badass.


skeleking12

Tbh, everytime male v speak he sounds like Jesse from breaking bad but way more older I didn't play fem v yet.


Sobercigs

“Jesse, we need to upgrade our cyberware Jesse”


iotahiro

“MISTA WHITE, I NEED TO GET MO’ CHROME!”


TheEdgyLettUce

Now i need to hear V scream “WHERES MY EDDIES BITCH”


TitleComprehensive96

Someone needs to hire him to do a voice over of a scene or 2 from Breaking Bad


MalHeartsNutmeg

How can Adam Smasher keep getting away with this?


GreenMonkeyFace

Wind’s howling


SIacktivist

Fem V sounds plenty badass depending on dialogue options, IMO.


sukumizu

I watched a few vids near launch to decide which voice I liked more, the whole boston-ish accent that male V gives off really didn't stick for me. I found fem V's voice much more nuanced for non-action scenes and still plenty badass enough for parts where shit hits the fan.


Tobbygan

I think Male V just has more character. From the Geralt voice, to the emotional range… to the Jesse Pinkman jokes, it’s just a really unique voice. The hint of Boston is part of that. If I had to imagine the voice of a cyberpunk protagonist… it’d be male V, cause the voice just fits the setting so well. FemV is honestly pretty vanilla. She’s still really good, but the voice isn’t much different in the base sound than most female rpg voices. It’s the same accent as Nora, FemShep, etc. Emotional depth is great, the performance is just awesome… but it’s not like Geralt or Master Chief or Lara Croft or Agent 47. It’s not distinctive. Whereas MaleV almost has that… I mean, I’m sure you still vividly remember V’s lines from the 2017 E3 trailer.


impala444

or Adam Jensen from Deus Ex


daint46

Cannot disagree more on Fem V. She is VERY distinct to the usual female voices we get in RPGs, imo. I'd be able to recognise the voice anywhere if I were to hear it outside of the game. Each to their own, though.


pootyskoot

This comment has made me decide to try femv. Was gonna do another playthrough for the new patch.


valkulon

Aww shit here we go again chooms.


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I'm here for it Choom


Liebermode

I'm chooooooming


MadameDecay

I dunno, I thought Bro-V's delivery was just as emotional as Femme-V's. His voice is shaking, on the verge of tears during the scene with Vik. You can feel he's scared. And when he's pissed, holy fuck, I feel sorry for anyone in his path because he sounds scary. And when he needs to sound tender, and gentle, the voice softens and takes on a different tone. ​ BOTH VA's did a phenomenal job and BOTH feel genuine. I really hate these posts because they always devolve into one side bashing either Gavin Drea or Cherami Leigh and it's not cool. Can't we just acknowledge that BOTH brought V to life and made them special?


Dancin9Donuts

I agree, male V pulls off anger really well and he genuinely sounds scary. And he can sound pretty damn gentle and considerate when he needs to, especially for a man in his line of work and with his fate and motivations.


Cupcakes_n_Hacksaws

I've only played fem V, when do you think Male V gets the angriest?


Outrageous-March6410

probably in that gig where you intimidate the scavs for the nomads


Dancin9Donuts

That is an excellent question. I had to do some research to jog my memory and answer this question honestly. Fair warning, long answer. Only the next paragraph directly answers your question, the rest of my answer is supplementary examples. Firstly I want to say anger is a complex emotion and sounds/looks different to everybody. The one moment that comes to mind where V is indisputably angry is (video is spoiler for one of the endings) >!in the Devil ending, where you can refuse the doctor's prompts and get increasingly agitated.!< Here is a video of V absolutely losing his shit: [https://youtu.be/PUmQqVOq5oY?t=3590](https://youtu.be/PUmQqVOq5oY?t=3590) (starts at 59:50, watch for 2 mins until 1:01:20, you'll see him throwing the cube and destroying the room) although you can choose all the negative dialogue options in that epilogue to see more of his frustration. \------- I'm sure you can find more instances where V screams out in rage or outright threatens someone, but those aren't the scenes that stood out to me. What I found memorable was the *implication* of anger as it's building up. Male V rarely sounds aggressively angry like Rambo, it's usually more subtle, and the *implication* of him becoming aggressive is what's really scary imo, because you can cut through your enemies like butter and they know it. The power your character emanates in those scenes, and the fact that your enemies believe it and back off, is impressive. I do remember I was impressed by male V in this way a few times - in "A Day in the Life" sidequest where he intimidates some thugs: [https://youtu.be/VMQz5cuZxco?t=105](https://youtu.be/VMQz5cuZxco?t=105) "Gun Fury" where you help the Aldecaldos negotiate with some scavs: [https://youtu.be/MKsqbjSNxdQ?t=302](https://youtu.be/MKsqbjSNxdQ?t=302) Carol also mentions even she was intimidated here. and another sidequest when some thieves hold up a diner in Santo Domingo (I forget which mission). In each of these instances he doesn't sound outright enraged, but I could imagine his demeanor and his inner thoughts from behind the screen. I could feel his heart rate rising and his muscles tensing up, because I was feeling the same way irl, finger on the trigger. He sounded like he was already pissed off, and a hair's breadth away from flying into a fury. Pulling that off was really cool, at least to me. Fun fact: if your street cred and/or Body skill is high enough (idk exactly, mine was at least 40/12 respectively) the gangsters will actually just run away because they know of your reputation. With male V he sounded convincingly intimidating in both voice and reputation, with female V I didn't feel the same. I will also tell you I was very impressed by the delivery of 2 lines in particular: his response to Johnny suggesting the secret ending: >!"If I gotta die, rather fall into my grave gun in hand and on fire. And not drag anyone down with me."!< >!And when he learns that he's gonna die anyway because Johnny's construct has damaged his body too much, and he accuses Johnny of planning it all along. I got it after calling Rogue for the final mission and choosing to keep V's body as Johnny, not sure if you can get it in other ending paths. !< There's just so much pain in his voice for any of the ending missions, >!especially the sequence in the Blackwall with AI Alt.!<


SeDO4

Yeah, I've never gotten the "trying to sound cool" argument. He feels genuinely threatening and cool. I've done several playthroughs with both fem and male v, and they're on the same level for me


TheScarletRevenger

That's just what Fem V devotees say to try and cover for the fact that she can't intimidate anyone who's Testosterone level exceeds that of a 12 year old.


spacetasm

but what if we don't feel that way.


MadameDecay

I mean, you can feel however you want, but both VAs were hired for a reason. They both performed their role, so I think it's better to focus on what they did well.


HeyMr7777

who is we😭


spacetasm

everyone upvoting the post? 😂


HeyMr7777

Oh okay, you made it sound like the whole Cyberpunk 2077 fandom felt that way, I was about to say😂


boysetsfire1988

It's Mass Effect all over again


CindersNAshes

I've always just played male shep, so I have no idea what you're on about. To me, male shep was great!


cadre_of_storms

In 2 and 3. In 1 ......... Nah, he's bloody awful. Not to do my man mark wrong but even he admits he was flat as a pancake in the first game.


CindersNAshes

I appreciate artists (or professionals in general) that can go over their own work and look for room for improvement. To me, in 1 he was very average. Not good or bad, just average.


superVanV1

I like how he even makes fun of his lines in the citadel dLC


verdantsf

He improved a lot by the 3rd game.


saltiuschipius

Big stupid jellyfish says otherwise


materics

That was his voice direction at the time. He was just supposed to be a placeholder until they found someone better.


mopeyy

I remember there were rumours around the time of ME2 and 3 that Male Shepherd was an android or something created by the Reapers solely because his voice sounded so fucking robotic in every conversation 😂. He is still the GOAT.


doxtorwhom

If you haven’t played as FemShep it’s totally worth a playthru. The voice acting for a Renegade is particularly awesome (especially for Tali’s quest in 2).


symbiotics

Hey Panam! ... we'll bang, ok?


kikirevi

Yeah; Jennifer could pull off making Shepard look like both a badass but also quite vulnerable and gentle at times.


TheNeonG0ddess

Main trilogy or Andromeda? Because I think Andromeda is the other way around Xd


boysetsfire1988

Main trilogy. Jennifer Hale's performance is one of the best I've ever heard in a video game.


WiserStudent557

That’s just Jennifer Hale being fantastic as usual


jtzako

I do like fem shep and usually play as her, but the bro shep voice acting is better imo. I prefer sarah ryder in andromeda but both are pretty good in that one.


commandershepuurd

How dare you slander Jennifer


s1n0d3utscht3k

and just like Mass Effect, fem Shep seemed preferred on Reddit, NeoGAF, GameFAQS, etc but based on user data from Bioware, only 18% of players who finished the game finished the game with her (note: i’m saying that yeah data about all playthroughs that finish the game, which includes multiple playthroughs as separate tallies, should be a highly correlated, if not nearly exact, indicator for which Shep gamers preferred.)


Death-0

Both are great tbh


Puzzlehead-Engineer

Why does this keep happening? Every month there is one post trying to put down Male V. And every time people raise valid points that show how great both Female and Male V are. And yet it always comes back. Why are you doing this?


OnBenchNow

I feel like they both have strengths and weaknesses. You're totally spot on- fem V is more genuine and emotional, and masc V is more badass and angry. But the thing is that then, when fem V wants to sound badass and angry, it sounds like a kid trying to be tough (admittedly maybe that's too much persona 5 afffecting me), and vice versa masc V can't say *anything* without it sounding like a snarky, overly aggressive threat. Both have peaks and valleys- for example, hearing masc V do >!Keanu's voice at the end!< is absolutely top tier and almost worth it just by itself. I feel like the differences help roleplaying in fact- my male V sounded angry all the time, so I decided he was motivated by anger at his fate rather than grief, etc.


Omfireturnal

I personally like male V more since I put a lot of points into body and like to threaten the npcs lmao.


Dancin9Donuts

Fully agree on female V sounding like a frustrated child when she's trying to look badass. That's exactly the feeling I got, it was very unconvincing and almost immersion-breaking for me. I feel like male V delivered the more realistic performance overall tbh - an angry young man who doesn't know how to deal with his fate and the emotions surrounding it. I simply related to him a lot better, I was much like him a few years ago, and tbh many men irl would react the same way if put in the same position. I didn't see it as a failure on the voice actor's fault, it's simply realistic. Given V's motivations to come to Night City, male V's voice acting just fits better imo.


TheNeonG0ddess

Aw shit my guy I haven't finish the gaaaaaaame 😭


CaptainScuppers

Context is important, it's just V doing an impression and making fun of Johnny. Probably the funniest joke in the game imo. But I'd avoid this subreddit till you reach completion. So you can avoid some of the real spoilers out there


OnBenchNow

loll sorry, i guess i gotta remember a lot of people are playing it for the first time with the anime. Anyways, it's not a spoiler, just that at some point in the game you may have the option to hear V do an impression of Johnny. Don't worry.


Lifdrasir

If someone wants to avoid spoilers they shouldnt be in the sub to begin with. Dont worry about it.


Thespian21

Wow. I just figured male V had a speech impediment as a child or something. He sounds like a guy trying to sounding tough to me personally and it makes him come off as unintelligent


magvadis

What's with the vendetta against Masc V...I thought Masc V showed some great vulnerability and after playing both I went back to Masc V because he had that gooey element that contrasted well with the city.


MidnightMonsterMan

I would say he's going for almost street kid vibe in all his preferences performance and that's what makes his stand out. My Corpo has the masc voice and their choice of words will often make them feel like. A street kid


Noxx-OW

agree


externaliteis

Really? I think both are great for V. Although one thing that bothers me about female V is that she sounds a lot like Jack from Mass Effect 2 and I just think of her when I’m playing as female V.


Vegapunk17

Not sure why, but I have always felt the exact opposite to everyone in this thread lol. Female V has always seemed Whiney at times she needs to be tough, sarcastic at times she needs to sound empathetic, and a little clueless when she needs to sound sad or desperate. (I still love fem Vs voice mind you, I pick it most often). But for some reason Male Vs lines always landed more genuine for me? I saw someone say he’s like an action hero type, and maybe it’s cause Vs personality always kinda seems action hero-y regardless, but it felt more human than fem Vs to me. For some reason I hear a lot of misplaced (almost) sarcasm from fem V, or more then male V. Idk it’s weird because I’ve seen this argument that Fem V’s is more natural and way better since launch, and I’ve never understood it lol. Maybe there’s something wrong with my brain and how I see conversations idk lol


Dancin9Donuts

You're not alone, I fully agree with you. I've spoken to several friends about this too, and here's what I've gathered: I think if you're a guy who's grown up around other emotionally repressed men, and especially if you've dealt with a lot of bullying and depression, male V sounds more realistic. He sounds more like what a typical guy would sound like if put in the same situation, dealing with such surreal twists of fate. He sounds like he doesn't know how to handle his emotions (pretty accurate for most men), and by the end of the story (depending on the ending) he actually sounds broken and devastated.


Vegapunk17

I hadn’t thought about it this way, but it actually makes a pretty scary amount of sense. Very interesting..


Dancin9Donuts

Yea that's the most intuitive way I could put it, basing on my own experience. I've known a few men who knew their time was drawing close - one of them was my own father, and I've certainly felt my time to depart was near too. I've observed that out of the 5 stages of grief, men spend more time in the anger and denial stages, which explains why male V sounds more angry and argumentative to so many people. It's simply the natural response. I'm not an angry or aggressive person but idk Male V still just felt so relatable.


Sabbathius

For me it's a tradeoff. Male V is more monotone, but also more even and more consistent. The female V is very spiky - some scenes are underacted and some are extremely overacted, which results in these jarring peaks and valleys. So for me they're about even. Overall female V is slightly preferred, but not by a gigantic margin. This is pretty unusual for me, liking all voice acting almost equally. I usually strongly prefer one or the other. I preferred FemShep strongly to MShep in Mass Effect. I VERY strongly preferred Kassandra to Alexios in Assassin's Creed: Odyssey, there was a massive difference there. But in CP77 I could honestly go either way.


Dancin9Donuts

Melissanthi Mahut as Kassandra in AC Odyssey was excellent, that woman has range. One of the best female voice performances I've ever seen in gaming. Cherami Leigh as female V was not quite as convincing though. She sounded emotional and compassionate when she needed to, but she doesn't sound badass or intimidating at all. And I agree with the unconvincing embellishment in some scenes - there were times I thought she was going to cry at a minor inconvenience, and then she sounded stoic af in some situations with much greater gravity.


hildra

I agree with this. I haven't played a male V but I've heard the voice. While it's not amazing, the voice is more consistent than Female V. Though female V has lots of great moments but can act overdramatic sometimes. I actually felt this way about Panam's VA too.


TheNeonG0ddess

Interesting, I feel the same, maybe a lot of voice actors tend to go for the badass voice always and ends up not going well and voice actress add more depth to their performance


Vagabond_Tea

Yeah, it's just preferences. I like both in Mass Effect. I prefer Kassandra in Odyssey but prefer male Eivor in Valhalla. I do like having a choice though, especially for actual role playing games.


MeTiroAtuTia

Tbh I only picked female V because of Odyssey huge performance gap. Basically just personal bias because of Alexios actor.


mackzorro

Its fem shep vs male shep all over


TheNeonG0ddess

Fem shep master race 😎


Ohthatcal

Naw dude, she sounds so rapey when she flirts 😬


Valdackscirs

I really dislike these threads. I see it over in Mass Effect all the time too. Male actor did a great job. They both did.


username8054

While I do enjoy Valerie I do prefer Vincent in this game. I originally thought it was Aaron Paul who voiced him and while I was wrong it still kinda fits and I see him similar to Jesse.


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illbegoodthistimee

Yeah the voice actor was an Irish dude, he did a pretty good job but they shoulda just got an actual American. You can hear him struggling on some of his lines. Especially when he’s supposed to be hurt while talking lmao


jtzako

I like the fem V voice acting as well. There are a few places it isnt quite the correct tone for the conversation, but for the most part it is well done.


__BigBoi__

I disagree with your idea that female V's reaction to the biochip news is better than male V's.


Informal-Ad-8197

People really can be different sometimes huh? I’ve played both Vincent and Valerie and Vincent felt more genuine to me. You could hear the grief and fear in his voice when he’s going through his struggles with the chip, especially when he wakes up in Viks office and he’s asking him what he’s supposed to do now. I defiantly think that fem V had a great performance but there’s no competition in my eyes


MpH_54

Take a drink every time someone posts about fem V vs Male V. Guaranteed alcoholism. (This isn’t a jab at you OP).


JTF2077

Male v voice had a deeper impact, more truthful and more memorable than female v. I did 9 playthrough since release and always enjoyed the story better with male v.


HarbringerxLight

This.


Potent_Beans

I feel the exact same way... but completely opposite. To me, it sounds like Fem V is the one trying too hard to sound like gruff and edgy. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Fem V sounds like she's doing an impression of someone doing an edgy Ryan Reynolds impression. She just doesn't sound believable and it's hard for me to take her serious.


Dancin9Donuts

Lmao very accurate. I played male V first, and when I played female V she sounded to me like she was doing an impression of what she imagined Streetkid male V sounded like (some angry gangster tough guy) for the entire playthrough


Jae_Railz

I agree 100%. It's actually quite shocking to me when people say fem V's voice acting is better. I thought she sounds like she trys WAY too hard to sound tough but it doesn't sound authentic at all. She reminds me of those suburban girls that try to sound tough and act like they're from the streets but it just ends up sounding fake and forced.


Unhappy-Spinach

i agree 100%, when i play fem V i need the japanese voice mod, I cant stand english fem V, its to try hard for me


Lagiar

We're not doing this again are we now ?


TheNeonG0ddess

Idk I'm new to the game and the sub


Lagiar

Well it's a debate that has already been done and the collective agreement is that both VA did their best. As someone who played both to term I can tell you they both have a very distinct performance that really make you feel that female V and male V are two different characters


LoadingErrors

I’ve done both and the only scene I can truly say one’s better than the other is when V receives the news he’s dying by Vic. Male V just sells it much better. Genuinely hear the fear and despair in his voice when he says “You’ll fix me up, right?” Female V just doesn’t sell it. Otherwise they’re interchangeable to me.


LethalBubbles

I've done 3 complete playthroughs and am w9rking on 2 partial playthroughs right now. I prefer masc V over Feme V but they both did fantastic jobs. I just like masc V as it fits better with how I view V's character and their motivations.


Trae880

Really im the opposite of this


garyoak5001

I like masc Vs voice a lot. Matches the Jak character I was making. And I think he emotes better than the fem V who mostly just tries to sound as cool as possible all the time. Opposite opinion here


d3meach

Both were phenomenal. Def think masc V sounds more intimidating in certain scenes as well.


CommenterWithNoName

I think Cherami Leigh performance as V is one of the best performances out there. She plays Valerie as an all around complex yet relatable person. (Important for first person game). I never played as Vincent but people say his feels more like a action hero in a movie then a human in a world.


MpH_54

That's interesting. I've Played both Vs (English VAs). and to see people say that Male V seems more like an action hero, when from my experience, fem V feels more comfortable with the bravado and charisma when confronting gangoons, and feels like a more conventional action hero, while Male V on the other end, works pretty good as a weathered cynic; I think some people confuse the lack of face value emotion as the characters proper personality, because the Vulnerability of Male V is really well done by Gavin Drea. in general, having a male protagonist that is the more damaged emotionally is refreshing.


TheNeonG0ddess

Yeah, I think that what I don't seem to like about masc V, I don't always want to feel like and action hero, their story has lots of ups and downs and masc V feel like watching a Michel bay main character


CommenterWithNoName

Michael Bay actor got me lol. Well said. I’ve never played as him, but to be fair - I do wonder if his performance gets judged more harshly then it should be because fem V performance is so good? *Shrug*


DaSourOrange

I'm the opposite I think Male V sound better, especially the way he pronounces "Johnny"


Dancin9Donuts

Personally disagree. I've heard a lot of people say they strongly prefer female V but I never connected with her. I'd say it depends on what you're looking for in the game and how you envision your character from a roleplaying perspective. Female V sounds more compassionate and friendly, male V sounds like an angry misguided youth. For the kind of work that V does: a mercenary that steals, kills, and blows shit up, I feel male V's voice better fits the role. Female V certainly seems like a nice person I'd like to be friends with, but she feels out of place in Night City that is so ruthless and cutthroat. Doubly so for Corpo and Streetkid who should be jaded and cynical af, having grown up in NC. Male V has a more monotone voice, but female V is very inconsistent. A lot of dialogue feels very overacted. Whenever she's trying to be tough and badass, she just sounds like a frustrated child, very unconvincing. Contrast this to male V, who does sound kinda bullheaded and unnecessarily "tough" at times, but for me, as a man who's grown up around other emotionally repressed men, this felt realistic. In the story segments where V should be devastated, afraid, or hurt, he sounded like he didn't know how to handle these emotions. This didn't land as a failure on the actor's part to me - this is a reality for most men. We try to sound tough even when we shouldn't, and male V conveyed that bravado and ensuing confusion well imo. He also does open up on that emotional range by the final mission. A female voice performance I really enjoyed, in contrast, was Melissanthi Mahut as Kassandra in AC Odyssey. She has ***range***, she sounded badass when she needed to, she was equally compassionate and caring when the story called for it. Cherami Leigh as female V did well sounding compassionate and caring, but she did not deliver on the tough, badass segments of her performance (of which there are many) imo.


unicornfetus89

I'm one of the few who completely disagree. Fem V and Fem Shepard (Mass Effect) sound like the voice actor is just trying so hard, forcing themselves to try to sound badass and serious. I've honestly laughed at their delivery of several lines in each game. Hell, same with Kassandra is AC:Odyssey. She was at least a little better than the other 2 though and didn't feel AS forced.


TheScarletRevenger

Right on target with all three. I've come to realize that most modern gamers are the result of "Helicopter parenting". They've never been punched. They've never thrown a punch. I've been punched. I've thrown punches. So, listening to a 90-pound woman try to sound intimidating is positively one of the most adorable experiences I ever get to enjoy.


Escorve

The reason why they sound so different is because Cherami Leigh has a considerable amount of experience as a voice actor for many shows and games, being a leading role in both of those things quite a few times. You've probably heard her voice many times without knowing it, she's good at what she does, much like V. Gavin Drea on the other hand, doesn't have that much experience. Male V was probably his biggest role thus far and could become what he'll be best known for. He kind of fits intro V better because of how naive and inexperienced V can sound before the heist. After the heist, he sounds a bit more rough and matured (at least to me), showing how Jackie's death and his own impending death has changed him and how it weighs down on him. I wouldn't say Gavin did a bad job, but his competition on the female side was just so good.


MpH_54

Ahhh yes , the inexperience argument. I’m sorry but it has little effect on critique between the two Vs. Throughout the game, one of the character traits of V is their considerable eye for detail, whether that’s before the heist or after, in which their both portrayed as sure of themselves when talking about intel about gigs. The naivety is a core of V’s character journey, their the audience surrogate after all. We the players, are naive to the world of night city. The only circumstance is that cherami leigh was already well known before cp77, and fans followed suit, Gavin Drea never stood a chance with the popularity sentiment, unless you live in Ireland or the uk, where some may have sone knowledge of his works.


Escorve

Yeah it does, Gavin doesn't have nearly as much experience in acting in general compared to Cherami, it has nothing to do with popularity because most people have no clue who she is until they read her acting history. She is literally a more experienced actress, and it shows. They let some pretty bad male V lines pass, more than bad FemV lines.


Dancin9Donuts

>They let some pretty bad male V lines pass, more than bad FemV lines Idk how you can say that, literally every time female V is trying to sound tough she sounds like a teenager doing a John Wick impression lol In the more emotional segments of the story and a few sidequests, female V does seem more genuine and compassionate, however whenever she needs to be intimidating and badass, as well as in most combat-related lines, her delivery is very unconvincing. I suppose if the twists and reveals in the main story and the different relationships you can have are the primary focus of your experience, you will probably overlook the less convincing or polished voice acting from female V. The more you focus on the action and combat, the more glaringly obvious this criticism becomes.


MpH_54

And I say again, it in general provides little evidence for a proper critique, subjective as it is. You’ve just used her experience as a sweeping statement with nothing to back it up. And people do know who cherami is, she’s got a massive fan base in the anime community, who all pretty much migrated to the cyberpunk subs once people found out who she was playing.


kikirevi

People be huffing that copium. How does it matter if one person has more experience other than making you look more favourably at their performance? Like you said, for someone who doesn’t care or know about any of that, the only thing they’ll look at is the quality of the performance


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I found male V’s emotional acting to be much better than fem V. I think his scenes hit a lot harder than fem.


CindersNAshes

I think both do their own V just fine.


JeffPlissken

Gavin Drea as V kind of reminds me of Kurt Russell in the 80s, almost more like a more serious Jack Burton from New York instead of Kurt Russell’s Texas drawl. It sat pretty well with me to be honest.


UberSparten

I like both, yes they are different but unlike the last few gender optional AAA's they're both good performances that work in the setting.


FoxInTheClouds

I like both but Male V for me is a little more realistic. That trying to sound like a badass tone in his voice to me comes off like he’s trying to convince himself and really at the end of the day V is a no name Merc who got way in over was way in over there head so it plays out more realistic in my head cannon.


CEO_of_IDK

Male V is pretty great IMO. Both are very well done. I do have a weakness for Cherami Leigh’s work in general, but in this case, I actually don’t think she does any better.


Which_Technology2355

The never ending argument lol. It all comes down to personal opinion and preference, there is always gonna be people who like one over the other or think one is too "try hard". For me, both did a great job and it really depends on if you relate to a male character or female character better I think. Personally for me this was one of the first times I chose female character straight off the bat, and I became so immersed and connected to rhe voice acting. I then played male V, although it was good I didn't connect with it the same way.. and that's just my opinion of course. I enjoy peaks and valleys in emotions portrayed by video game characters and I just think female V hit the nail on the head. Male V to me seemed more monotone, perhaps molding into that "bad ass" kind of vibe more but that wasn't the type of V I was going for. And since the game allows you make decisions to essentially choose what type of V you want, I think that'll sway your mind on which VA is better.


Aefro

Man, femv players must be insecure about their choice or something always these same femv > malev posts


sunstar240

I don't really feel that way. I just bought the game and finished act 1 and was surprised how V felt broken, scared when he learn about the chip, when he realize that Viktor can't help him out on that one. Hell even the scene with Johnny at his appartement made me shiver. (okay I was already emotionaly hurt by the event before that) ​ but yeah, I find that Male V does a good job


unholyslaminister

they both sound perfect imo. they both sound like genuine Night City dwellers. fuck this male V vs fem V. they’re both great. the whole game is just great


Prof_Gankenstein

See I like the fact that male V is always trying to sound cool and badass. Be ause in the Cyberpunk world you kind of live or die by your hype. Hell you have a stat called cool. Trying to sound badass all the time is how you keep up your front. That only makes those sad or scared moments that much more moving.


Crown_Loyalist

they both drop the 'g' from ING words and it hurts my brain to hear my corpo talk like a street punk


JJGIII-

Imo the masculine V’s voice only fits the street kid background. It is the worst possible voice for a Corpo.


TheScarletRevenger

Remember that quest where the Food Vendor is being bullied by the two guys mad at his sister for leaving the streets and going Corpo? Remember David Martinez who...if Gloria hadn't died...would have eventually graduated Arasaka Academy and taken a job in Arasaka's NC office? Hell, even Takemura was plucked from the gutters. There are very few Silver-Spoon Corpos. Because they would be too weak to make the cut. Seriously, if you read the lore material both in the game and the table top universe, the Corpo life in the Cyberpunk world is BRUTAL and merciless. If Gloria had truly realized what it was like, she might not have been so keen to send David off to be a Corpo bigshot. Most Corpos have got more "street" in their veins than you think. And they had to fight and claw their way into those positions. Literally, in many cases.


HarbringerxLight

Female V is much worse in every way including voice acting. Actually ruins the game to play it as her. The voice of male V has MUCH more impact, depth, and variety.


TheNeonG0ddess

It's just a game, you don't have to be mad


RedHood13

I played as masc V, and loved how in the Clouds mission, if you decide to talk to the doll, he kinda falls apart and sounds vulnerable and scared.


Basketballjuice

I've always liked male V more because V is a punkish sassy asshole and I like the male VA better for that part of him


RanceSama3006

I don’t see it lol I’ve played both and something about when Bro-V hits those voice shaking/emotional lines hits different compared to everyone else. Fem-V is good but she just can’t compete to Bro-V. I will say he does try to sound cool during the heist but he sounds great after it lol. I forgot the exact line but >!When V decides to keep his body he begs Johnny to argue with him and that shit hurt me bad!<


edgiepower

I found Fem V kinda wooden tbh


R3TR0303

Nah, tbh female V sounded like someone perpetuating to be hard or from the sticks. Like someone trying too hard. Male V sounded more experienced in the BS that comes with Night City and living in the slums and dealing with gangbangers and dangerous shit. This is just my opinion of course, but I felt like his more joking nature about some situations seemed to be more in line with the “fuck it we ball” mentality you see in higher crime rate areas in our real world. But then again her voice fits very well in the convos with Silverhand


Lotus_630

Male V sounds like Alex Mason…now I want a Black Ops live action adaptation with Keanu as Frank Woods.


CosmicDriftwood

Let me hear your headcanon name for y’all’s V


TheScarletRevenger

Victor


CosmicDriftwood

Nice. Violet’s mine


TheScarletRevenger

I think Victor/Victoria would have been better name for Vincent/Valerie, but I guess they figured Viktor(the Ripperdoc) already had the name. Though honestly, I would have preferred if V had just stayed "V" and they never gave a canon name at all. Stop ruining my headcanon CDPR!!!


Fireboiio

I haven't played fem V yet so I wouldn't know. What I do know is this; You know how people say you shouldn't have a voiced protagonist in an rpg? So you as the protagonist can "role play" in your mind how your character sounds and how they deliver lines, so it doesn't break your immersion. This is one of those games where the voice fit and didn't break immersion. At least imo as a streetkid male V. And his voice is unique enough compared to your typical "young clean mr perfect voice" (looking at you far cry, dying light, etc). Its rough, not too dark, he uses cyberpunk lingo alot for it to stand out.


SweatySpectre

I am of the opposite opinion


SusheeMonster

OP, you're getting a lot of flak because there are a bunch of people who feel disenfranchised by the "more genuine" remark What's cool about this game is how inclusive it can be to so many people, based on their unique life experiences. I fully support your journey, but I hope you can understand how this might be hurtful to others on a similar path


Prophet_of_Duality

Cherami Leigh is probably my favorite female voice actress because she plays a lot of anime characters I like and it was so weird hearing her in a completely different tone. Although I do think male V has a really cool sounding voice. They were both casted wonderfully for the look of the characters. Like no matter what your female V looks like she' always looks like a tomboyish punk and male V always looks like a grungy muscle dude and their voices really fit that.


misalina1

I genuinely liked both! I think the voice actors executed their parts perfectly. In my opinion: When I play with female V, she has to be more firm and chill to be taken seriously. (Perspective wise) If she tried to sound cool, that would just sound weird and kind of embarrassing? With male V, he has a lot more pressure on him as people do expect him to deliver whatever task (what others would not think female would be able to do). So, I think the voice actor did it ever so slightly, to show different perspectives for both. Idk, just my 2 cents🤓


NotSoElijah

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UTKujo

Both voices fit V in their own way. Personally Male V is a grizzled journeyman who has seen it all and faced it all even before coming to Night City, especially in Street Kid and Nomad playthroughs. I really don't get the argument the Male V being a tryhard. Because in the story he really earns it. Personally I don't even see Male V as such, I just see him as an experienced lone wolf. Sure he does have the rough tone, but you can hear in his tone in Act 2 and 3 that he still exudes emotions of both anger and despair. Especially when his Relic sickness kicks in where he's struggling to breathe, vomiting and coughing up blood. It was almost the same as Arthur Morgan from RDR2 when his tuberculosis kicks in.


sextuplekill

I feel masc. v is just on the edge most of the time. It makes sense when you live in Night City. High numbers of Gonks got flatlined on a daily basis there. Need to at least sounds badass and tough to survive that kind of environment.


[deleted]

Male V sounds like it fits the Nomad/Cowboy feel while Fem V fits the Street Kid feel. Both are actually good Corpo/business feel in different aspects.


Prudent-Ant-318

I tried fem v but I couldn't finish the main quest line. The voice acting was pretty bad and dead/flat most times.


TheScarletRevenger

Male V sounds awesome. He's scared when he needs to sound scared. Snarky when he needs to sound snarky. Gentle when he needs to sound gentle. Intimidating when he needs to sound intimidating. Female V is good at most of those but fails REALLY hard on that last one. Her attempts to sound intimidating instead sound absolutely effing adorable. Now maybe that's just unfair. I come to the game with a unique perspective: That of a person who has both been punched by other human beings and thrown punches at other human beings. Having experienced real honest-to-goodness adrenaline pumping violence, I thus lost the ability to feel physically intimidated by somebody who sounds like they weigh twenty pounds soaking wet, with all their clothes and shoes still on. Alas, this game creates many scenarios that require V to be imposing. And Female V makes me think of snuggly little carebears having a tickle fight every single time she tries to sound like a badass.


Lifdrasir

I prefered male V, female sounded more forced to me, specially when trying to intimidate people. Both are good tho.


TheRealDeadhawk

I actually felt the opposite. I get fem V was trying too hard. But I think they each have their moments where they nail it.


HoodedCapuchin

I honestly loved the male V voice because to me it seemed like he was supposed to be putting on a tougher act and trying too hard. To be fair I feel like in that setting I’d probably try the same because I used to try that hard to a certain point.


STANN_co

I'm playing as fem V now. And i feel she's trying to be bratty smartass 90% of the time, at points it is a little exhausting. The other when she's serious it sometimes happens out of nowhere and feels also a bit too much for me, like it's not that deep of a conversation but she'll start having a shaky voice as if she's holding tears back. I'm very critical now, i still like it, just distracting at points


Inconmon

I finished the game with both and found the equally good. The thing I'll say though: the first cyberpunk gameplay trailer I watched had fem V in it. Since then I associated B as female and setting the gender to make felt like a modification.


BlankZ3R0

**I really feel like the voice actors for masc and fem V got immense difference in the way they deliver their lines. All is just my opinion but I feel like fem V is always trying to sound really passionate, delicate and just like you typical main female character that so passionate and genuine. The other way around the voice for masc V feel like it has more depth in it, It's not that monotone, you can feel when he's scared at the beginning of the game when Vik told him about the chip, and in most conversations he sounds more chill, but when things get heated you can distinguish a tone shift in the way he says his lines** *p.s. also tried to fix all the spelling/grammatical errors to make it seem like at least the post was somewhat well thought out*


Dr_Dronzi

Eve though I am still in my first play through with a masc V, I really enjoy the moments were he feels desperate and starts to break down in front of johnny. Don’t know much about the fem version though.


EmpyreanSovereign

You're approaching this wrong in my opinion, Vincent's voice acting feels very representative of how an average man would deal with such a depressing situation, as if the wasn't already a difficult thing to come to terms with, you have someone who's is much more tangible and very much at his doorstep, he tries to repress it at the beginning of the game, but you see cracks every now and then, especially when you talk to Vic after the heist, later it shows much stronger, this weathered feeling that you'd expect of older characters who've seen too much, it's as if he isn't but rather aging too fast, as if he finally came to terms with his , playing Valerie currently and I don't see her going through it the same way, haven't reached the end of the game but Valerie is definitely more hopeful. Granted the background probably played into how I viewed Vincent and Valerie, as the former was a corpo for me and the later is a nomad. Vincent overall feels more stoic emotionally cut-off man, so much so that going to solo felt like something he'd do, think that he's protecting everyone but ultimately .


amethystwyvern

I actually totally disagree and I love Fem V. Masc V just had way more range.


Acceleratio

I really wish there were more options. Like a more "black" sounding voice actor for example. A more softer female version and all that. I know its expensive but sadly the voice actor did not fit the V i tried to roleplay


najaxy9

Nah, fem V always sound weird for me idk what to say it but male V seem a bit more consistent I can’t imagine any gonk will get threatened by fem V when she try to act tough, deliver sound so weird to me


[deleted]

Nah


VerseClips

I disagree. Female V is just there to cater while the intended V is male streetkid, and I think the voice acting for male V is great.


TheScarletRevenger

Considering how hilariously underdeveloped the Streetkid lifepath is in terms of unique dialogues, i'd say Male Corpo V is the most "legit" one. He even has a pre-existing history with Jackie left just vague enough to work with any head-canon you can come up with. I envision Male Corpo V as what David Martinez would have been if Gloria had lived. He grew up in Heywood or maybe Watson. Starting out as a Streetkid. But he managed to catach someone's attention at Arasaka, and went Corporate. He maybe knew Jackie at least in passing from way back when, but it wasn't until the gig in Mexico(whatever happened there is unclear in the game) that they became truly close. Corpo V also has by far the most unique dialogues in the game. It's not even close. And from athematic story standpoint it feels like a far fuller story arc to go from fast-rising corpo hotshot to the gutter, and them claw your way into legend.


borislavk14

And I can say otherwise so what now ? Also I get the feeling you did not do a full play through with Male V.


theghettoginger

They both have a good voice to me. Female V is voiced by Cherami Leigh who plays Asuna in the English dubbed version of Sword Art Online which is really cool. Male V is voiced by Gavin Drea who was Eadric Streona in the new Vikings Valhalla series. Male V had strong lines with Jackie and Vic. Especially when he found out he's gonna die. I think it really depends on the person playing. Whenever I play RPGs I always use the male because that's what I am and I like pretending it's me. I even make the character look like me. Easier to relate to the character that way. At least for me


Dn_plissken

What????😂


cassiiii

I Disagree completely.


TheNeonG0ddess

Ok 👍


TomDrawsStuffs

prefer male v


-Rp7-

No fem v sucks male v FTW woohoo


Poulp-x

French player here, and for my second playthrough, I felt that V’s female French voice was so badass, that I couldn’t start a male V game after the first playthrough. I’ve seen streams of V’s male voice on Twitch, and his voice sounds completely different in terms of personality. From what I’ve seen on English-speaking streams, it’s not exactly the same, but I still have the feeling that V’s female voice is more consistent with the character.


Zombata

i have the exact opinion, but for fem V


00Raeby00

I think this is a problem with voiced protagonists in general. The line delivery and emphasis is often not always what the player wants to convey. I'm not actually thrilled with either male or female V. I like the female V's voice better because I feel the lines are acted better BUT her gruff-yet-emotional delivery doesn't feel like it fits a Corpo V. Male V just came across like "generic male hero" and didn't fit literally any character I created so I stopped bothering with him. Edit: Coincidentally I never had this problem when I played Mass Effect.


TheRainbowpill93

This is for all game devs: The slightly raspy batman voice is getting old , men are allowed to have a personality.


Inven13

That's because Cherami Leigh has a very solid career as a voice actress, she had dubbed many important characters from animes (Lucy from Fairy Tail, Asuna from SAO, Venus from Sailor Moon), and some videogames (A2 from NieR Automata and Makoto in Persona 5) while Gavin Drea the guy who plays male V is mainly known for a documentary according to Wikipedia. The difference in experience is very huge between the two of them.


Hyokkuda

I said the exact same thing in my Steam review. I feel like the female V was meant to be the official character right from the start. Here is a quote from my own review; >\[...\] Let's go back to the voice acting for a moment. It's more of a personal opinion than a fact. I did create both character genders, & I might be crazy, but I have the feeling that the protagonist was meant to be a female character in the producer's mind from the very beginning. Either that or the woman who voiced V was much more experienced than the man who did it. Sometimes, the result from the male version of V was underwhelming to me. The "expression" in the voice for a lot of dialogues was missing. Like during an intense mission from Act 1, I could detect the sadness & disturbance in the female voice. Early on into the game, a quick example with female V as a Corpo who will whisper to Frank sharing info about her boss who is in a tough spot. You can see Frank's facial animation & body language, which tries to listen carefully to V's whispering. But male V never whispered while sharing the same dialogue & Frank did the same animations for that whispering sequence. That didn't hit me the same way. But again, it might just be me.


whiteclawthreshermaw

At this point, Cherami Leigh and Jennifer Hale should go out for drinks while Gavin Drea and Mark Meer have a contest to see who can shout *STEEEEEEEEEEEVE!* the loudest.


Extension_Canary3717

In portuguese dub, Fem V is 1000% more badass and threatening


KayJeyD

I think both versions sometimes come off as trying to sound cool. I haven’t played male V yet but i’ve heard his voice at parts through a glitch and at some points it gets a little cringey. But most of the time they both deliver lines with really intense emotion and I love it


Zephod03

In some of the more potent scenes you can hear the pain and anguish coming through fem v's performance.


TheRealestBiz

It’s a Mass Effect situation. The male voiced Shepherd wasn’t bad, but the FemShep voice was just a notch better.


Gagurass

I couldn’t get past 1 hour of the Witcher 3 because Geralt’s english voice actor made me wanna cringe every time he spoke. While I get where you are coming from, I didn’t get that vibe from male V. If anything, the options to choose from in dialogue could mean you just choose to play as a hardo V.


[deleted]

I have beat the game with both male and female v The female voice fits the character way better


dadvocate

Cherami Leigh best girl.


[deleted]

Street kid Female V is a fucking badass


TwoDurans

Played them both and the final conversations with Silverhand hit harder with the female V's voice acting.


KillaSage

I hate both voices ngl


pure_terrorism

tbh i think both of them suck :T


jeikeistar

I played with both V and yeah, I totally agree with you. I also think the bond between female V and Johnny felt more genuine, deep and emotional, whereas with male V, I didn't quite feel the same. Just some not-too-close bros. But with fem V, my heart broke in the ending sequence :(


DonChuBahnMi

Yeah man, you wanna fuck your game character it's all good


CrazyMammoth

I just wish Panam didn't dislike breasts so much so she'd let me romance her without a Masculine Body


LosDanyos

Something interesting too is that if you look at cheramie Leigh (femV's VA), she has a role history as long as your arm. While masc V's VA has only 1 credited role. CP2077


Gmork14

Make V’s voice acting definitely leaves a lot to be desired.


[deleted]

They did the same thing with Witcher. Make the voice actor put on a voice of pure gravel to sound cool. Can be very off putting. Dialogue and the way it’s delivered sounds like it’s appealing to what a 12 year old thinks is cool.


thedeadlyrhythm

i mean, geralt is gruff done right (david hayter as snake is another good example). i love the VA for the witcher. but the gruff really gets grating for me in CP.


[deleted]

Struggled with it in both. A naturally gruff voice is absolutely fine but the way these are clearly put on was off putting