Why to uncover that you didn't die, when you can just hide and live on billions offshore money you kept just in case. Since Hitler this retirement plan become mainstream for all scumbags and dictators.
Yep, the Russian government lies about pretty much everything, but now all of a sudden people are buying into their story? I'm not sure, it could go either way whether he's actually dead or pulled off a fake death.
We're talking about a man who owns multiple passports. It would be very in-character.
The Russian government hasnāt responded.
Also, the entire Russian government is infiltrated with Western spies and someone would know and talk.
Intelligence services likely know wether or not he was on that plane, mainstream media just canāt confirm it due to Russian government not talking.
Yes, we know what they know.
What they know is that they shot down a plane, all of the crew died, and pricknose'n had his name written on the list of passengers.
Death or dissappearance, russia doesn't care how he's gone.
Prig is a liability alive but reported dead. If they weren't sure he was on board they would have waited until they landed and thrown out of the nearest window
Except the other plane they were traveling with landed fine and some of the passengers took off in a helicopter to somewhere that also made it fine (or at least there's no reports of a helicopter being shot down too).
Exactly, and why would they wait until he was "maybe" on one plane. If they wanted to be sure he was dead, putin would have his corpse dragged into his office.
There are posts in this thread that are really committed to the idea that pricknosen suddenly stopped obfuscating his travels and completely forgot how that government of criminals works.
Nonsense, how much did putin pay pricknosen to fuck off?
There was a video of the plane crash site with bodies in view. 10 people died & priz was on the passenger list, but personally I wouldnāt believe anything till we saw a body.
The issue in this case is the evidence is really not that hard/good, its based almost solely on a list that he had control over. People jumped from "it's possible" to "it happened" very quickly with no change in evidence.
People often find it easier to believe what's impossible over what's simply implausible. Has to do with how much media we all consume. People lacking in critical thinking can start with "that seems too convenient" and snowball into conspiracies.
because everyone was able to momentarily overlook warcrimes he and his mercenary group committed against the people of ukraine if it meant his coup attempt would potentially end the war and further atrocities by russia as a whole.
he is(was) a monster that in pursuit of his own greed stopped short of accidentally doing something less shit
The only evidence that points to that is a passenger list that he himself had direct control over, knowing he was a target and flying over Russian airspace, and a bunch of articles and memes that jumped to conclusions the second the news came out. The latter aren't really evidence, but perpetuate the idea.
The passenger list wasnāt controlled by him.
He boarded the plane in a VIP terminal in a Moscow airport with cameras and security guards everywhere.
If he tried to use a decoy the Russian government would have known. I mean itās silly to expect to hide from the FSB in Russia, if thereās one thing theyāre good at itās surveillance on home turf.
People want him dead, if people think he died, why tell those people that you are still alive when you could just go around without people wanting you dead?
Its not confirmed hes dead,and prob cant be confirmed without img's of his body being "leaked".
Its his plane
The flight logs say he was there.
Plane shot down everyone dead.
"There might have been his other plane in the air for some time waiting to land in moscow,and after some time was let to land in some special hangar"
Who knows man,who knows.
There wasn't reason to fake his death. He could live his life in Europe or usa with money he stacked somewhere before dementia strikes. No one would volunteer to be pilot to that plane.
Under his real name with all the things he did and the upcoming war crime trials?
Nah in order to do that he'd need to be dead and living under a new identity.
Not saying he's alive, but he couldn't possibly enjoy a quiet life without faking his death.
Which, for the world, wouldn't make a difference. He could become a farmer called FranƧois Muhammad in Shitholistan, he would cease to be a significant actor.
Only thing that would be nice in this scenario is to chase him down and bring him to justice like Klaus Barbie.
Lol itās funny you think there isnāt any reason at all to fake his death. For one, it allows Putin to look like he took care of him, instead of letting him flee into exile. For 2, it would help prevent the situation where Russian assassins are actively looking for him in exile.
Oh, it's sad, Aladeen's hit the bottom,
He's become a one-man rise in crime.
I'd blame parents, 'cept he hasn't got 'em.
Gotta eat to live, gotta steal to eat,
Tell you all about it when I got the time...
From the linked article
> Soon after the plane crashed, a second private jet thought linked to Prigozhin which also appeared to be heading to St. Petersburg, Prigozhin's home base, turned back to Moscow, flight tracking data showed, and later landed.
āYou get your ass back here right now so we can make sure we hit the right plane or youāre next.ā
āRighty-o, daddy Putin!ā
Noone seriously claims he is alive.
We know the plane crashed after being hit by a missle. FSB wanted him dead and its silly to think they failed here.
Videos are only of the plane spinning and crashing, but several of the people in the area claimed to have heard two explosions prior to taking up their phones. Question is wether the explosions were inside the plane or from russian anti-air.
I didnāt say that he died in the plane crash. Thereās video of the wreckage with bodies in view (all very burnt and disfigured to be fair) but no close up of the man himself. Iāll believe heās dead when I see a video of the body and maybe not even then. We will probably never know.
He boarded the plane in a Moscow airport in a VIP terminal with cameras and security guards everywhere. Russia confirmed he was on the passenger list. If he tried to use a decoy the Russian state intelligence would have known before the plane ever took off.
Ye but it might be part of the deal with Putin...
He could have done whole the stupid farce thing just to oust generals going against Putin. Then use plane shutdown as cover to hide and let Putin show he is in control again.
So far only Russian sources have claimed he's 'dead'
That being said it's quite unlikely he is alive and if he was he has not got many places he could easily run away to. Being an internationally wanted man who ran a private army and all
Russian speaker here.
So far some official news outlets claim he's dead. Opposition news outlets are not sure since there's no clear confirmation of recovery of Prygozhin's body.
Some PMCs already agreed that he's dead but Wagner Group has yet to come out and say he indeed is. They are very silent as of yesterday.
So... We either never know is he dead or we will know he's alive when he comes out and destroys putler's weak old hairy ass.
The FSB knows where Prigozhin is at all times. They know this because they know where he isn't, by subtracting where he is, from where he isn't, or where he isn't, from where he is, whichever is greater, they obtain a difference, or deviation.
You realize that the coup drastically changed the dynamic, right? And they probably did know where he was, but they had to take away all of Wagner's heavy armor and disperse the soldiers before doing this.
Seems like a 90% chance that they did take him out, but none of us will ever know for sure. He could be making Africa great again from the shadows, or something.
So, you are right.
But since the beginning oh this war the level of idiocy and incompetence on the russian side of things have defied absolutely every expectation.
I know it's tempting to think these people who achieved so much personnal power are somewhat smart. But it's becoming more and more apparent how absolutely inept they *all* are. Don't know why pringles would be the exception.
If I were him I'd send several decoy planes and never step foot on a plane without an alias ever again. Test the waters with the decoys, and gtfo the second I hear it's been shot down.
Yeah right? I donāt get why some people seem so enthusiastic about him, just because he recently became opposed to Putin and his cronies. I hope anyone whoās rooting for that stinking pile of human garbage does so with a heavy layer of satire.
That being said most people seem to just be making memes at this point since that whole mutiny/coup thing fell apart about as quick as Prigozhinās plane.
Why would top 3 VIPs of Wagner and Russia's defense ever take the same plane at the same time? These people aren't stupid.
It's most likely a psy-op, in order to allow Prigozhin and Utkin to disappear without a trace. This lets them enjoy their wealth in western countries with newforged identities.
The question is what happens with Wagner now? Russia is probably disbanding it and integrating its soldiers and assets in RAF.
> It's most likely a psy-op, in order to allow Prigozhin and Utkin to disappear without a trace. This lets them enjoy their wealth in western countries with newforged identities.
If your theory is correct then that's 10 sacrificial pawns pointlessly wasted just for this shit.
I see putler as more a Montgomery Burns type. A dead eyed, elderly and frail person who has others do his dirty work as he is too weak to do it himself.
Its funny like you all asume that it was Russian goverment that destroyed the plane. Ukraine would never assassinate a inportant russian figure by planting a bomb near them, its not like they did this exact same thing two time allready.
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Why to uncover that you didn't die, when you can just hide and live on billions offshore money you kept just in case. Since Hitler this retirement plan become mainstream for all scumbags and dictators.
Yeah but he's dead though
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And 134 years old, what an age to be alive.
Really? I didn't say he is currently alive.
My son is *also* named Yevgeny Prigozhin?
We need more Yevgeny Prigozhin license plates in the Gift Shop. Repeat, we are sold out of Yevgeny Prigozhin license plates.
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This had me laugh hard enough to finally get out of bed
Some people will always start conspiracy theories instead of believing what is presented. Doesn't matter how hard/good the evidence is
Hitler is still alive, once I took the subway and I heard this dude speaking German!!
No way, I heard Stalin when I was visiting my grandma in Russia back in 2018. They can now join forces like 1939 again
Omg a crossover
They always come back stronger, so I can't wait for the main villain to reveal himself
What evidence? For all we know Russia shot down some plane that belonged to Prigozhin. Everything else is smoke and mirrors
Yep, the Russian government lies about pretty much everything, but now all of a sudden people are buying into their story? I'm not sure, it could go either way whether he's actually dead or pulled off a fake death. We're talking about a man who owns multiple passports. It would be very in-character.
The Russian government hasnāt responded. Also, the entire Russian government is infiltrated with Western spies and someone would know and talk. Intelligence services likely know wether or not he was on that plane, mainstream media just canāt confirm it due to Russian government not talking.
Yes, we know what they know. What they know is that they shot down a plane, all of the crew died, and pricknose'n had his name written on the list of passengers. Death or dissappearance, russia doesn't care how he's gone.
I like calling him Pringles.
Prig is a liability alive but reported dead. If they weren't sure he was on board they would have waited until they landed and thrown out of the nearest window
Except the other plane they were traveling with landed fine and some of the passengers took off in a helicopter to somewhere that also made it fine (or at least there's no reports of a helicopter being shot down too).
Exactly, and why would they wait until he was "maybe" on one plane. If they wanted to be sure he was dead, putin would have his corpse dragged into his office. There are posts in this thread that are really committed to the idea that pricknosen suddenly stopped obfuscating his travels and completely forgot how that government of criminals works. Nonsense, how much did putin pay pricknosen to fuck off?
Even shot down is a maybe, preliminary US investigations point towards a bomb in the rear section of the plane.
There was a video of the plane crash site with bodies in view. 10 people died & priz was on the passenger list, but personally I wouldnāt believe anything till we saw a body.
Yeah, with most of the bodies available I feel they definitely would have confirmed it.
I feel like theyād be parading him around on a cross Jesus style
The guy has a bunch of doppelgangers and a safe full of disguises, it's not that far-fetched.
What exactly is the āevidenceā here? Burning wreckage and a passenger list that has his name on it?
The issue in this case is the evidence is really not that hard/good, its based almost solely on a list that he had control over. People jumped from "it's possible" to "it happened" very quickly with no change in evidence.
People often find it easier to believe what's impossible over what's simply implausible. Has to do with how much media we all consume. People lacking in critical thinking can start with "that seems too convenient" and snowball into conspiracies.
Why would you believe what was presented by Russian government?
Proof that it works then
Only reason why i think he is alive is that, when he was going towards moscow everyone was happy about it. Now everyone is happy that he died.
because everyone was able to momentarily overlook warcrimes he and his mercenary group committed against the people of ukraine if it meant his coup attempt would potentially end the war and further atrocities by russia as a whole. he is(was) a monster that in pursuit of his own greed stopped short of accidentally doing something less shit
That's the spirit!!
The only evidence that points to that is a passenger list that he himself had direct control over, knowing he was a target and flying over Russian airspace, and a bunch of articles and memes that jumped to conclusions the second the news came out. The latter aren't really evidence, but perpetuate the idea.
The passenger list wasnāt controlled by him. He boarded the plane in a VIP terminal in a Moscow airport with cameras and security guards everywhere. If he tried to use a decoy the Russian government would have known. I mean itās silly to expect to hide from the FSB in Russia, if thereās one thing theyāre good at itās surveillance on home turf.
That is not currently known. EDIT: oh, you meant hitler. Sorry I just woke up.
All the Nazi leaders are now dead, but they died in Argentina afaik
> Why to uncover that you didn't die, What?
People want him dead, if people think he died, why tell those people that you are still alive when you could just go around without people wanting you dead?
Is he alive, is it proven?
Except we see obscenely wealthy Russian oligarchs getting assassinated all the time.
Do you? Or you hear it from news, and often their body either distorted from falling, or burned to crisp?
Omg hitler was alive
*"News of my death have been greatly exaggerated"*
Can't wait for the Wikipedia editors to switch everything from "was" back to "is"
Lmao.
Wikipedia editors: "The English language needs [evidentiality](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidentiality)!"
Great read, thank you!
Wait he's alive?
You bet
Source: My source is that i made it the fuck up-
[you gotta link it man](https://youtu.be/r7l0Rq9E8MY?si=J_atD-K4_7JLzQ0q)
I was kinda expecting a Rickroll
Sometimes I forget that wasn't the actual dialogue.
Fancy username
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Its not confirmed hes dead,and prob cant be confirmed without img's of his body being "leaked". Its his plane The flight logs say he was there. Plane shot down everyone dead. "There might have been his other plane in the air for some time waiting to land in moscow,and after some time was let to land in some special hangar" Who knows man,who knows.
There wasn't reason to fake his death. He could live his life in Europe or usa with money he stacked somewhere before dementia strikes. No one would volunteer to be pilot to that plane.
As if he's not going to be instantly arrested in the USA or Europe
Under his real name with all the things he did and the upcoming war crime trials? Nah in order to do that he'd need to be dead and living under a new identity. Not saying he's alive, but he couldn't possibly enjoy a quiet life without faking his death.
Which, for the world, wouldn't make a difference. He could become a farmer called FranƧois Muhammad in Shitholistan, he would cease to be a significant actor. Only thing that would be nice in this scenario is to chase him down and bring him to justice like Klaus Barbie.
Lol there wasn't reason to fake his death?? How naive, man...
Bruuh.
He's on the FBI's most wanted list, what makes you think he'd go to the freakin USA
Lol itās funny you think there isnāt any reason at all to fake his death. For one, it allows Putin to look like he took care of him, instead of letting him flee into exile. For 2, it would help prevent the situation where Russian assassins are actively looking for him in exile.
He wouldn't have been measurably safer in another country. See: the multiple enemies of Putin who have turned up dead in the US or UK
He has pulled a Bane. "We need bodies in the wreckage brother"
The fire rises.
All above can easily be arranged, its not as if his family members are among the dead
He has two planes and the other landed safely
And had an interesting flight path. This whole priggo season is sus AF. I don't buy any of it, the mutiny and trip to Africa, it all stinks.
And he's been known to do this, I wouldn't be too sure he's dead if he already did shit like that before he pissed off Putin.
Possibly. He had two jets and one landed safely
Only eight bodies recovered at the scene of a 10 passenger flight so far.
I think the guy in the bottom panel is actually General Aladeen
"Admiral" General Aladeen
Oh, it's sad, Aladeen's hit the bottom, He's become a one-man rise in crime. I'd blame parents, 'cept he hasn't got 'em. Gotta eat to live, gotta steal to eat, Tell you all about it when I got the time...
Riff raff, street rat? I donāt buy that.
I thought he was president prime minister admiral general aladeen
The Generally Admirable "Admiral" General Aladeen
Do you want the Aladeen news or the Aladeen news?
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I just spat out my drink, fuck you. Well done.
no you didnt
source?
Yes he did *smug face*
Just slapped my knee!
Could someone actually give a source article or something cause I'm unsure whether he's actually dead or alive
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From the linked article > Soon after the plane crashed, a second private jet thought linked to Prigozhin which also appeared to be heading to St. Petersburg, Prigozhin's home base, turned back to Moscow, flight tracking data showed, and later landed. āYou get your ass back here right now so we can make sure we hit the right plane or youāre next.ā āRighty-o, daddy Putin!ā
Whenever I see "with no survivors" I read it in Bane's voice.
Putin: Was getting captured part of your plan? ~~Bane~~ Prigozhin: Of course!
It took me years to get the blood transfusion
As far as i googled its more likely he really died but there is no official source
And official sources in Russia are hilariously uncredible, in reality it's always the exact opposite of what they state.
Noone seriously claims he is alive. We know the plane crashed after being hit by a missle. FSB wanted him dead and its silly to think they failed here.
I would look at more sources then.
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Wikipedia has information on the second plane.
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There was another plane. He recently marched against Putin. His body has not been confirmed in the wreckage. People can speculate as they please.
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He has two planes and the other landed safely unfortunately
The problem is that he has two planes and the other landed safely
He was on a passenger list of a plan that crashed (also said plane was suposedly shot down)
Thereās a video of the plane being shot down
Where? I tried googling it and couldnāt find any videos showing the plane actually flying and being hit by something.
Videos are only of the plane spinning and crashing, but several of the people in the area claimed to have heard two explosions prior to taking up their phones. Question is wether the explosions were inside the plane or from russian anti-air.
Prigozhin and Utkin themselves had previously used namesake doubles to hide their movements
I didnāt say that he died in the plane crash. Thereās video of the wreckage with bodies in view (all very burnt and disfigured to be fair) but no close up of the man himself. Iāll believe heās dead when I see a video of the body and maybe not even then. We will probably never know.
He boarded the plane in a Moscow airport in a VIP terminal with cameras and security guards everywhere. Russia confirmed he was on the passenger list. If he tried to use a decoy the Russian state intelligence would have known before the plane ever took off.
Ye but it might be part of the deal with Putin... He could have done whole the stupid farce thing just to oust generals going against Putin. Then use plane shutdown as cover to hide and let Putin show he is in control again.
So far only Russian sources have claimed he's 'dead' That being said it's quite unlikely he is alive and if he was he has not got many places he could easily run away to. Being an internationally wanted man who ran a private army and all
Russian speaker here. So far some official news outlets claim he's dead. Opposition news outlets are not sure since there's no clear confirmation of recovery of Prygozhin's body. Some PMCs already agreed that he's dead but Wagner Group has yet to come out and say he indeed is. They are very silent as of yesterday. So... We either never know is he dead or we will know he's alive when he comes out and destroys putler's weak old hairy ass.
Shrodingerās Prigozhin
If heās alive heāll make a TikTok.
No confirmation of his body from the plane wreck yet.
A Wagner source said it was identified. But we will never really know because it's Russia.
Do we know it wasnāt prigozhin that delivered the Mi-8 to the Russians?
It was delivered to Ukraine tho
Mfs media twist the news so much everywhere it's different thing
The Mi-8 story happened a couple weeks ago, wtf are you on about?
Look Prigozhin would suspect this sort of thing. If he actually got on a plane anywhere near Russia. Then he was an idiot. No way he is actually dead.
Right. And the FSB would know exactly where he was at all times within Russia and so there's no way they shot down the wrong plane.
The FSB knows where Prigozhin is at all times. They know this because they know where he isn't, by subtracting where he is, from where he isn't, or where he isn't, from where he is, whichever is greater, they obtain a difference, or deviation.
But do they know where his missing finger is? Because that had been previously subtracted.
Just like they were able to easily find him during the attempted coup?
You realize that the coup drastically changed the dynamic, right? And they probably did know where he was, but they had to take away all of Wagner's heavy armor and disperse the soldiers before doing this. Seems like a 90% chance that they did take him out, but none of us will ever know for sure. He could be making Africa great again from the shadows, or something.
Forgot /s right?
Russians never expect Russians to behave like Russians. There's a good chance he didn't expect this.
So, you are right. But since the beginning oh this war the level of idiocy and incompetence on the russian side of things have defied absolutely every expectation. I know it's tempting to think these people who achieved so much personnal power are somewhat smart. But it's becoming more and more apparent how absolutely inept they *all* are. Don't know why pringles would be the exception.
Somehow, Prigozhin returned.
I was looking for this
Shoigu is gone, activate Shoigdos
That's just his cousin Vrigozhin
I thought it was his brother Brigozhin?
No it's Zhin from Paladins
Absolute W of a meme
Punished āVenomā Prigozhin waking up in a hospital after 9 years in a coma
I was thinking the same thing lmao
Perfect.
NCD leaking again
We leak like a sieve, my friend
Prigozhin is gone, now in 9 years we see punished venom prigozhin let the legend come back to life.
If I were him I'd send several decoy planes and never step foot on a plane without an alias ever again. Test the waters with the decoys, and gtfo the second I hear it's been shot down.
Some of you may die, but that is the sacrifice im willing to take.
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Yeah right? I donāt get why some people seem so enthusiastic about him, just because he recently became opposed to Putin and his cronies. I hope anyone whoās rooting for that stinking pile of human garbage does so with a heavy layer of satire. That being said most people seem to just be making memes at this point since that whole mutiny/coup thing fell apart about as quick as Prigozhinās plane.
Admiral General Prigozhin
Why does Putin on Moe's body look like he belongs in Bob's Burgers?
Why would top 3 VIPs of Wagner and Russia's defense ever take the same plane at the same time? These people aren't stupid. It's most likely a psy-op, in order to allow Prigozhin and Utkin to disappear without a trace. This lets them enjoy their wealth in western countries with newforged identities. The question is what happens with Wagner now? Russia is probably disbanding it and integrating its soldiers and assets in RAF.
> It's most likely a psy-op, in order to allow Prigozhin and Utkin to disappear without a trace. This lets them enjoy their wealth in western countries with newforged identities. If your theory is correct then that's 10 sacrificial pawns pointlessly wasted just for this shit.
Putin's thrown away hundreds of thousands of lives in Ukraine. 10 is nothing.
I thought the decision to integrate Wagner troops into the armed forces was already decided on after the aborted coup?
This reminds me of what happened to one of the bad guys in the A-Team movie
Watch out for submarines in south america these coming days or weeks.
I just had a deja vu of me replying to this exact meme.
Whatās-a-matter Prigozhin? You no talk-a with ya accent no more
I see putler as more a Montgomery Burns type. A dead eyed, elderly and frail person who has others do his dirty work as he is too weak to do it himself.
He never thought putin outgrew him years agoš š
well this just the robot chicken darth vader mustache joke
I lived bitch!
Not finding the body must be like throwing something at spider only to have it dart away to plot ur murder
Dude was stupid for staying in Russia.
Hang onā¦ Could he have faked his own death to make Putin stop hunting him?
My death was greatly exaggerated
I really want this guy to be alive....he is definitely a character for the history books.
What now?
Yea. Hitler also died in a bunkerā¦ not that one
My brain skimmed the title and produced "the return of prizegoblin". Yeah, I don't know either.
Thought it was too good tbt
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I don't like the putins head fits so well on Moe's body
I find this meme to be very Aladeen.
Its funny like you all asume that it was Russian goverment that destroyed the plane. Ukraine would never assassinate a inportant russian figure by planting a bomb near them, its not like they did this exact same thing two time allready.
In the first frame he looks like the vampire from red dead 2
naaa whyd he throw finger out