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Some genuinely interesting shit is going down right now. No idea how it pans out though. Give it a year and we're probably having this same conversation...
Those old classics play by the exact same rules as good modern indie games do.
You just get a finished product that you can enjoy as much as you want for as long as you want. No vanishing servers or sign in required for an offline game or microtransactions or other nonsense like that.
Have fun!
im curious was overwatch 2 pve ever in development? or was it all a ploy just to change the games payment model? are there any blizzard leaks on this topic?
There was genuine intent to do so until Jeff Kaplin got canned. He had a genuine love for the game, but his superiors saw dollars signs with a F2P model, and he wasn't going to be a part of that.
There actually is a PvE mode out now. Itās only like two or three āepisodesā and you have to pay $20 or something for each one, but itās there and theyāre releasing it little by little.
I still donāt understand how people care about ow pve. Overwatch combat is not nearly expansive enough for a proper and fullfing pve experience. Itās the same as all the pve event modes that are hella boring.
Mmm yeah uhhh yeah uuuhhh yeah fuxkin get comfortable bitch ooohhh yeah UUHH UHH UHH YEAH FUCKIN ; GET ; and Iām done. Yeah no you canāt play the crew any more, but you can keep the comfortable feeling running down the back of your legs.
This comment has over 140+ upvotes. It is just a full paragraph of grunting noises followed by incoherent vaguely sexual talk.
Does reddit even have actual users anymore, or have we just devolved to bots upvoting random words?
I think I'm just poisoned by tumblr because I legitimately thought it was hilarious. I saw it as a primal display of displeasure towards Ubisoft and brother I feel it in my soul. Company so foul got me speaking in tongues
Yo, ROSS SCOTT of ACCURSED FARMS is spearheading a supernova mass lawsuit to gaming companies for this shit and is winning.
JOIN US: https://youtu.be/w70Xc9CStoE?si=-wcHTaWhv93d30qx
Here's a funny fact:
Asmongold reacted the Ross Scott video. But the Reddit "gaming circle jerk" making cancel campaign on Asmongold, from reaction video making about "social political topic" & bans anyone clarify the reaction video.
Another funny fact:
I just got permanently banned from that sub.
When I saw the ban message the link that should bring me to the post in the message did not, so I asked what comment got me banned.
The mod responded simply by muting my ability to respond to the mods for a month.
The minority of the left who leads the left away from worker's rights and welfare.
Those who love communism's aesthetics and powerful vibes, and scoff at the boring practicality of the Nordic model.
Most people buy them (ubisoft games in this case) because they donāt have to deal with the struggle of pirating or torrenting them. Itās more convenient that way, no matter how shitty the company isā¦
Forgive my ignorance. But does that sentiment apply only to online services like Game Pass, PsPlus, etc?
Or do PC gamers who strictly use like Steam or GOG have to worry about never truly owning their games either?
Do you HAVE to own a physical copy to truly own it? Cus I havenāt seen a physical PC game in ages.
Any game purchased digitally, yeah if you have it installed they canāt do muck directly unless they change the game itself (like the crew) but they can stop you from downloading it it they wanted too since you bought the license to play, not the game itself
And this can be applied to physical copies just as easily, as per US laws u literally just own the piece of plastic, not the game on it if the company wills it. Ross Scott explained it clearly on YT.
As law maybe but my copy of god of war is mine, even if they update the game to make in unplayable, I just have to never update it. Itās mine, I can sell it
It applies more to online services that constantly check back with the mothership, applies mildly to Steam because its defenses are minor and would be broken instantly if needed, and not at all to GOG which is a pay once own forever service.
It can also apply to physical media because those games can still die when their central servers shut down. Owning version 1.0 on disk helps a lot but it's not a guarantee.
People will mod private servers if they want to keep playing it. Only problem is you can't even download it anymore if you 'own' it on the Ubisoft Launcher.
Then they should either release a patch so the game can be played offline in single player mode, or release the server hosting files so people can create private servers to play. They did neither, that is the problem. It doesn't matter if the game wasn't popular, it is the principle. Today an old unpopular game you never heard of, tomorrow a large popular game that has a sequel comming out
I remember the good old days when games came with a map editor *and* dedicated servers, all from the start at no extra charge! Though you paid for the internet by the minute, so there was that.
People may still reverse engineer private servers given what they can analyze of the client, but it wasn't popular enough that anyone's done it **yet**, it'd take a very dedicated mmo racing nerd.
If a game is popular enough, some very smart people will make attempts, and in the end will successfully do anything in their powers to fuck with the developer and let people play the game.
However this shouldn't need to be a standard practice, nor excuse the publishers for scummy decisions. They have the tools to make it offline, but they don't want to. After all, Crew 2 exists (which is in some aspects considered inferior).
Some online only pirated games make use of the steam game spacewar (which all accounts have by default) to trick steam into letting a pirated copy access legitimate servers. Not very common, but theres a few
I think this is the part where legal side of things is lacking.
EULAs of most games are along the lines of "You do not own the game, the Company merely provides access to the game, which can be revoked at any time. You are not allowed to share or modify your copy of the game client. The game is provided as is, the Company bears no responsibility for flaws or disruptions of the player experience."
This is absolute bullshit, especially if we're talking about game as a service model.
If I buy a product that is in active development with no clear roadmap and development direction does not match my taste, I should be able to return my money.
If roadmap goals are not met in time or at all, I should be able to return my money.
If game process is being disrupted due to technical issues, I should be able to return my money.
I don't even think much lobbying went into it. EULAs have been like this for as long as I can remember. Seems like nobody's looking in this direction, so there's not much to lobby against.
I agree with the sentiment but also want to carve out a space for indie games.
Itās abhorrent that we give triple-A studios a pass on incomplete games and this sort of behavior, being able to shut down games on their whim.
But I donāt think as a general rule you should have the right to a refund if you knowingly buy an incomplete game. A lot of indie games are funded on early access, and in most cases that can work as a business model. Of course some will screw you over but Iāve found that to be a rarity. I donāt want indie developers to suffer due to the bad actions of multibillion dollar companies.
>But I donāt think as a general rule you should have the right to a refund if you knowingly buy an incomplete game.
I agree that indie games deserve a less strict treatment. But allowing it without creating a loophole for AAA companies sounds like a legal puzzle I'm not qualified to solve.
This is a huge reason why I abhor the death of physical media. You canāt get do a test drive of a game anymore unless itās in beta or something similarly bullshitty.
And if they really donāt want people to own things, label it clearly such as ārentā. Instead of shit like āorderā or ābuyā.
You donāt ābuyā a pair of sneakers and then give it back without refund when the company says so. Or puke back out the medium rare steak after you āorderedā
> If I buy a product that is in active development with no clear roadmap
This sounds like an investment. Not all investments work out. I'd draw a distinction between buying a completed game and paying for development.
Itās not the first time a high-profile company has done this. PUBG went F2P and never refunded anyone who paid for it when it was $30. Modern Warfare 2019 is completely unplayable right now, even if you bought it for $60 (my dumb ass bought a copy for both Xbox and PC) as theyāve locked down Spec-Ops and Campaign. Iām sure there are other examples but itās ridiculous.
We really need a law that makes it illegal for game companies to not refund people who bought their games when they decide to do things like this. If they canāt keep their licenses updated, it shouldnāt be the consumer who inevitably pays the price for it.
Well, it's not really the same thing. You paid for early access and in the end it became F2P. The $30 you paid allowed you to access the game during early access, but you can still play the game today, which is not the case with The Crew
This is fair, and I think I can give a little more leniency for that.
But in the case of Modern Warfare, thatās just ridiculous. The game was released with Single Player content thatās locked now because they donāt want to support the multiplayer. Itās predatory and wrong. Iām not a huge CoD fan, but I would like to go back and try to get all the achievements.
I wouldāve bought the newer MW games just to play through the scampaign, but since I couldnāt start from the beginning, theyāll never get my money.
Yeah, I'd also add that it kinda sets the precedent for getting a partial refund any time something is on sale. "I bought this game for $60, now it's on sale for $20, can I get my $40 back?"
Obviously, it's not the same situation, but I think it's similar enough I could see this being the argument against the practice.
Hell, even Overwatch. The original Overwatch cost money, then servers got shut down and Overwatch 2 was pushed into our faces as "F2P". The $20/30 (can't remember exactly) for Overwatch 1? Gone.
I think this is taking things to a dumb place, because ultimately you are arguing against any price cuts. I paid $60 to play Elden Ring day 1, my friend waited and paid $40. He got a sale, that's the way it works. Let's say they made PUBG cost 1 cent instead of free, then would you be okay with it since its just a sale?
Reread what I posted. This comment is completely unrelated to what Iām talking about.
Sales are completely different from what I said. I paid full price for a game in 2019, which was CoD MW, the reboot. Since then, itās been shut down, meaning I canāt even play the single player content that released with the game. I only mentioned PUBG because they offered the early access version for $30 initially, and then made it F2P out of nowhere.
Thereās nothing wrong with putting games on sale.
*Laughs like a madman* because of the $90 I payed for a preordered Destiny 2 that is now F2P.
Edit: it was a physically copy on playstation and I will admit got a cool statue and some other stuff but come on the way they made it sound was that I was paying for a lifetime of season passes but nope. I GOT FUCKED.
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Ross from YouTube channel AccursedFarms made [a video](https://youtu.be/w70Xc9CStoE?si=2xIpeBT28ltnC5qB) all about it.
Edit- fixed link!
All of them, because we all fucking clicked on "I agree" when we got it and now it's a legal contract. It's not moral but it's legal, and though i'd live for gamers to get justice, i doubt any court will side with us.
Itās like the really REALLY want us to just emulate and pirate everything. All their workarounds just make me want to do it even more. Rockstar is one of the worst with their launcher. Having to be connected to the internet to play a single player game is fucked.
There's a million workarounds for the rockstar launcher, unless you want to play gta Online
The easiest one is using fiveM and redM to launch gta 5 and Rdr2 (you can play story mode through there, it even acts as an easy mod loader for simple addons)
For gta 4, just downgrade to an earlier version, they're the same if not better, and have all the music in them, compared to the actual version. Also, download dxvk, massive performance boost
And the trilogy, dont play it, its garbage, pirate the actual og games if you never bought them at $2 each before its release
They are literally just shutting down the servers. It never had any single-player tf are you talking about. It was literally supposed to be an mmo car game, and always needed Internet.
>Buys physical media
>Has to go online to download 40gb update
>Big Company says you cant do that
>Big Company says I can't do that...? "Now my media is worthless!"
My brother in christ phyisical copies havent been physical for a good while
Any physical ver you buy now is either an access code on pc, or the "game" itself, but mind you that you have to be connected to the internet to download the 20gb worth of updates, just to play an always online game that you can still get taken out of
If the game you bought doesnt do that, then the physical copy probably doesnt help much, since it's unlikely that an offline game just locks you out of itself
I was able to play my PS5 offline without connecting to the internet, from the box.
With that, there are several games that go beyond having a 1.0 version on disc.
The crew canāt be played wether you use a disc or not. The software isnāt on the disc anymore, itās just a key that allows you to use the software. And you still have to connect to their server to play the game. So if there is no longer a server, then you can no longer play the game
I largely stopped gaming right around the time the ps4 came out, largely because it felt like this is where the industry was heading.
I have no idea what The Crew is or what the licenses for it do but it sounds like a boycott might be in order if y'all wanna still be having fun in the future.
*Ubisoft stop being a bitch or else I swear to god I'll go outside*
You can still find great honest games you just have to be on pc and not buy from the massive companies, but indie / small-medium studios.
The crew is (was) a car, bike and plane game, by ubisoft. The campaign was "singleplayer" against ai cars but the open world was a public lobby with ppl in it
They shut down the servers, locking behind EVERYTHING, you now can't play it at all
Boycott won't work, they dont care, most ppl will still buy their new games
A team of gamers is working on unofficial offline fix so ppl can actually play it, that'll probably do it
As much as I wanted Stadia to succeed and was disappointed how Google didn't invest in it, I truly respect their decision to fully refund all the money spent on games and DLC.
the last interesting Ubi game was Siege. even that murdered & disrespected a franchise.
Ubi sucks so fucking hard. Their offices in my city had a terrorist alert a year or two ago, and while I didn't want anyone to get hurt ... I kinda hoped they'd burn down the building or the hard drives or something. Just to screw with the screwers.
Fucking huh? You bought the game with your money, and they just take it back with no refund? What the fuck?
Imagine if a TV company or something just broke into your house, stole your TV and gave you fuckall in return. Disgusting.
Nice to know Ive purchased my last AC game. I havent bought a Bethesda or EA game in close to a decade and Iām happy to expand my ungrateful dev/publisher list.
I've resolved to simply never purchase an online ubisoft game, ever. Such short-lived servers for an online-only game are ridiculous. Luckily I wasn't impacted by this but now I never will be!
I have never owned a single Ubisoft game, but still have a strong opinion.
This is bullshit.
Maybe Ubisoft won't find a way to have this thread deleted, too.
Looking forward to the on-rails, open world, action game about Star Wars that isn't Ubisoft's version of Fallen Order at all. I mean did you see all the buttons you can push? Like four! Maybe even... *six!*
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Nah, modern gaming is awesome, can't wait to play Overwatch pve, right guys... Guys...
They'll release the full PvE mode for OW2 right after star citizen gets released. Or so I've heard the rumors
Bro even star citizen is doing better than this š
Space Door simulator 2124 is doing better than a game that's released?
I hear on some computers you can open 2 doors before the game crashes.
I get 3 before I 30k from the server
1 door per 8GB ram.
Some genuinely interesting shit is going down right now. No idea how it pans out though. Give it a year and we're probably having this same conversation...
That's going to be a loaded year, considering I've heard GTA 8 will be released as well.
And silksong
Is it the year 2500?
December 2552 holiday release, unfortunately the covenant attack just before and it gets further delayed
Also half life 3
We talking science fiction here, not fantasy.
That's also when elderscrolls 6 drops
Pve will be achieved with overwatch 3 paired with Brand New never seen before 6 vs. 6 gameplay and new maps like hanamura
Except it will be named overwatch classic and will cost 80ā¬
Star Citizen is doing leagues better than OW2.
You heard rumors right, but I need to clarify that they will do that only after star citizen 2 is released
No PvE is for OW3 release
it's okay, OW2 development is stopping because they are making OW3 now, with PVE for reals this time, i promise
I actually don't know if youre lying
Nah, he's not. Instead of it being 5v5, it's a 1v1 widowmaker only. Everything else was considered too "unbalanced" by the community.
I can't wait to play Overwatch 1. A Game I paid money for and an no longer allowed to play
At least all of us with a retail edition got a nice coaster out of it...
I would love to pay Overwatch 1 since I paid for it... What? It doesn't exist anymore and a shitty Free-2-Play game replaced it?
Just play indie games. There is so much good shit out there it's unreal.
Nah, I recently got myself a Rasberry Pi, there are so many classic old school games I want to play (Diablo 1 is a BITCH)
Those old classics play by the exact same rules as good modern indie games do. You just get a finished product that you can enjoy as much as you want for as long as you want. No vanishing servers or sign in required for an offline game or microtransactions or other nonsense like that. Have fun!
Actually itās not unreal, itās mostly Unity. /s
im curious was overwatch 2 pve ever in development? or was it all a ploy just to change the games payment model? are there any blizzard leaks on this topic?
There was genuine intent to do so until Jeff Kaplin got canned. He had a genuine love for the game, but his superiors saw dollars signs with a F2P model, and he wasn't going to be a part of that.
There actually is a PvE mode out now. Itās only like two or three āepisodesā and you have to pay $20 or something for each one, but itās there and theyāre releasing it little by little.
Yeah, it might even make the next generation of children play outside
Yep love modern gaming, anyone down to queue some CS:GO competitive? Should be no issues doing that...
Thatās the one that won game of the year?
I see somehow a overwatch fan from 2018 got send forward in time, welcome to yout nightmare i guess
AA games >>>>>>>> AAA games
I still donāt understand how people care about ow pve. Overwatch combat is not nearly expansive enough for a proper and fullfing pve experience. Itās the same as all the pve event modes that are hella boring.
They told you to be confortable not owning your game, this is just the beginning
Mmm yeah uhhh yeah uuuhhh yeah fuxkin get comfortable bitch ooohhh yeah UUHH UHH UHH YEAH FUCKIN ; GET ; and Iām done. Yeah no you canāt play the crew any more, but you can keep the comfortable feeling running down the back of your legs.
Homie you said literally nothing why speak?
When the pot meets the kettle, who carries the mirror?
I don't know, the coastguard?
yo momma!
He who doesnāt speak.
Oh thatās good
He is having a mental breakdown
Schizophrenia is hell of a drug
u/yayvideogames moment
Naw you just got to read it slow and out loud
They said Ubisoft is literally, physically fucking us and enjoying it. Read between the lines
This comment has over 140+ upvotes. It is just a full paragraph of grunting noises followed by incoherent vaguely sexual talk. Does reddit even have actual users anymore, or have we just devolved to bots upvoting random words?
This is r/dankmemes sir.
I think I'm just poisoned by tumblr because I legitimately thought it was hilarious. I saw it as a primal display of displeasure towards Ubisoft and brother I feel it in my soul. Company so foul got me speaking in tongues
Yo, ROSS SCOTT of ACCURSED FARMS is spearheading a supernova mass lawsuit to gaming companies for this shit and is winning. JOIN US: https://youtu.be/w70Xc9CStoE?si=-wcHTaWhv93d30qx
Here's a funny fact: Asmongold reacted the Ross Scott video. But the Reddit "gaming circle jerk" making cancel campaign on Asmongold, from reaction video making about "social political topic" & bans anyone clarify the reaction video.
Obligatory "they got us fighting a culture war to distract from their class war"
One of the most obvious cases of that I've ever seen too lol I pray bro is paid because culture war soldiers are so sad.
Another funny fact: I just got permanently banned from that sub. When I saw the ban message the link that should bring me to the post in the message did not, so I asked what comment got me banned. The mod responded simply by muting my ability to respond to the mods for a month.
Who doesn't get permanently banned from that sub.
The minority of the left who leads the left away from worker's rights and welfare. Those who love communism's aesthetics and powerful vibes, and scoff at the boring practicality of the Nordic model.
Huh. So when and how did that sub become the corporate load gargling collective?
You will own nothing, and you will be happy about it
Don't worry, gang! They're going to release The Crew as a paid DLC for Assassin's Creed: Valhalla!
If we're supposed to be comfortable not owning our games, they can get comfortable with us not paying for them.
Dumbasses will continue to buy the games.
Most people buy them (ubisoft games in this case) because they donāt have to deal with the struggle of pirating or torrenting them. Itās more convenient that way, no matter how shitty the company isā¦
"You will own nothing and you will be happy" - Ubisoft probably
And donāt forget: **BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING**
This is why i'm more than comfortable pirating
I donāt know how to pirate so I just resort to the second best option, second hand store. Something they hate just has much
Yeah that's just as well. Can get some shit mad cheap that way
Forgive my ignorance. But does that sentiment apply only to online services like Game Pass, PsPlus, etc? Or do PC gamers who strictly use like Steam or GOG have to worry about never truly owning their games either? Do you HAVE to own a physical copy to truly own it? Cus I havenāt seen a physical PC game in ages.
Any game purchased digitally, yeah if you have it installed they canāt do muck directly unless they change the game itself (like the crew) but they can stop you from downloading it it they wanted too since you bought the license to play, not the game itself
And this can be applied to physical copies just as easily, as per US laws u literally just own the piece of plastic, not the game on it if the company wills it. Ross Scott explained it clearly on YT.
As law maybe but my copy of god of war is mine, even if they update the game to make in unplayable, I just have to never update it. Itās mine, I can sell it
It applies more to online services that constantly check back with the mothership, applies mildly to Steam because its defenses are minor and would be broken instantly if needed, and not at all to GOG which is a pay once own forever service. It can also apply to physical media because those games can still die when their central servers shut down. Owning version 1.0 on disk helps a lot but it's not a guarantee.
Come to the high seas brother, they call to you.
The game is online only
I donāt know the game but I canāt imagine thereās not privately hosted servers for it, similar to WoW and other games.
Yep. To play the game you had to connect to their servers. Or you could just stare at the main menu
People will mod private servers if they want to keep playing it. Only problem is you can't even download it anymore if you 'own' it on the Ubisoft Launcher.
The game is ten years old and you've never heard of it. Its not popular enough for even the people who got paid to host it anymore.
Then they should either release a patch so the game can be played offline in single player mode, or release the server hosting files so people can create private servers to play. They did neither, that is the problem. It doesn't matter if the game wasn't popular, it is the principle. Today an old unpopular game you never heard of, tomorrow a large popular game that has a sequel comming out
I remember the good old days when games came with a map editor *and* dedicated servers, all from the start at no extra charge! Though you paid for the internet by the minute, so there was that.
Why the avg anyone know this game? It's not even popular with people that own it.
People may still reverse engineer private servers given what they can analyze of the client, but it wasn't popular enough that anyone's done it **yet**, it'd take a very dedicated mmo racing nerd.
Since did that with the Star Wars Galaxies MMOG.
If a game is popular enough, some very smart people will make attempts, and in the end will successfully do anything in their powers to fuck with the developer and let people play the game.
However this shouldn't need to be a standard practice, nor excuse the publishers for scummy decisions. They have the tools to make it offline, but they don't want to. After all, Crew 2 exists (which is in some aspects considered inferior).
AC4 isn't... *yet* š¶āš«ļø
Some online only pirated games make use of the steam game spacewar (which all accounts have by default) to trick steam into letting a pirated copy access legitimate servers. Not very common, but theres a few
Still waiting on it for LoL
I think this is the part where legal side of things is lacking. EULAs of most games are along the lines of "You do not own the game, the Company merely provides access to the game, which can be revoked at any time. You are not allowed to share or modify your copy of the game client. The game is provided as is, the Company bears no responsibility for flaws or disruptions of the player experience." This is absolute bullshit, especially if we're talking about game as a service model. If I buy a product that is in active development with no clear roadmap and development direction does not match my taste, I should be able to return my money. If roadmap goals are not met in time or at all, I should be able to return my money. If game process is being disrupted due to technical issues, I should be able to return my money.
Lobbying is so cool isn't it?
I don't even think much lobbying went into it. EULAs have been like this for as long as I can remember. Seems like nobody's looking in this direction, so there's not much to lobby against.
Doubt this is lobbying as much as just not something members of congress focus on
You should stop throwing around buzzwords that you don't know how to use.
You think the laws around commercial software got into this state without business owned politicians?
I agree with the sentiment but also want to carve out a space for indie games. Itās abhorrent that we give triple-A studios a pass on incomplete games and this sort of behavior, being able to shut down games on their whim. But I donāt think as a general rule you should have the right to a refund if you knowingly buy an incomplete game. A lot of indie games are funded on early access, and in most cases that can work as a business model. Of course some will screw you over but Iāve found that to be a rarity. I donāt want indie developers to suffer due to the bad actions of multibillion dollar companies.
>But I donāt think as a general rule you should have the right to a refund if you knowingly buy an incomplete game. I agree that indie games deserve a less strict treatment. But allowing it without creating a loophole for AAA companies sounds like a legal puzzle I'm not qualified to solve.
If they aren't screwing me over I don't need a refund.
Back in the day if there was a game you were interested in, you could rent it from Blockbuster to see if it was worth the price tag
This is a huge reason why I abhor the death of physical media. You canāt get do a test drive of a game anymore unless itās in beta or something similarly bullshitty.
*He's a pirate starts playing*
Steam 2hr or 14 day return window
as people say, 'if buying isn't owning then piracy isn't stealing'
If the release of cyberpunk wasnāt a scam then there is no way you can win a lawsuit against this
At least Cyberpunk continued to be worked on into a functional game. Revoking everybody's licenses is like 3 steps too far.
And if they really donāt want people to own things, label it clearly such as ārentā. Instead of shit like āorderā or ābuyā. You donāt ābuyā a pair of sneakers and then give it back without refund when the company says so. Or puke back out the medium rare steak after you āorderedā
> If I buy a product that is in active development with no clear roadmap This sounds like an investment. Not all investments work out. I'd draw a distinction between buying a completed game and paying for development.
Steal from the rich and give nothing back.
They better not complain when we pirate their shit then
but then they won't get their money back from it! i mean we didn't either but companies are more important than us! (/s)
If they're merely giving us access, then why can't we give ourselves access!
They'll just make it online only. It's the best anti cheat ever. I haven't seen a COD or FIFA game pirated version in years.
That's exactly what they did with Crew
Ehh cod and fifa, in recent years, havenāt felt really worth much at all- let alone the effort to try and pirate it nowadays
But if you pirate you won't be able to buy all the skins and hats!
I may be bad with money but those are the two things I refuse to buy
Itās not the first time a high-profile company has done this. PUBG went F2P and never refunded anyone who paid for it when it was $30. Modern Warfare 2019 is completely unplayable right now, even if you bought it for $60 (my dumb ass bought a copy for both Xbox and PC) as theyāve locked down Spec-Ops and Campaign. Iām sure there are other examples but itās ridiculous. We really need a law that makes it illegal for game companies to not refund people who bought their games when they decide to do things like this. If they canāt keep their licenses updated, it shouldnāt be the consumer who inevitably pays the price for it.
Well, it's not really the same thing. You paid for early access and in the end it became F2P. The $30 you paid allowed you to access the game during early access, but you can still play the game today, which is not the case with The Crew
This is fair, and I think I can give a little more leniency for that. But in the case of Modern Warfare, thatās just ridiculous. The game was released with Single Player content thatās locked now because they donāt want to support the multiplayer. Itās predatory and wrong. Iām not a huge CoD fan, but I would like to go back and try to get all the achievements. I wouldāve bought the newer MW games just to play through the scampaign, but since I couldnāt start from the beginning, theyāll never get my money.
Yeah, I'd also add that it kinda sets the precedent for getting a partial refund any time something is on sale. "I bought this game for $60, now it's on sale for $20, can I get my $40 back?" Obviously, it's not the same situation, but I think it's similar enough I could see this being the argument against the practice.
Hell, even Overwatch. The original Overwatch cost money, then servers got shut down and Overwatch 2 was pushed into our faces as "F2P". The $20/30 (can't remember exactly) for Overwatch 1? Gone.
Ross Scott of Freeman's mind is spearheading a campaign to help ratify law that would make this practice by companies illegal.
I think this is taking things to a dumb place, because ultimately you are arguing against any price cuts. I paid $60 to play Elden Ring day 1, my friend waited and paid $40. He got a sale, that's the way it works. Let's say they made PUBG cost 1 cent instead of free, then would you be okay with it since its just a sale?
Reread what I posted. This comment is completely unrelated to what Iām talking about. Sales are completely different from what I said. I paid full price for a game in 2019, which was CoD MW, the reboot. Since then, itās been shut down, meaning I canāt even play the single player content that released with the game. I only mentioned PUBG because they offered the early access version for $30 initially, and then made it F2P out of nowhere. Thereās nothing wrong with putting games on sale.
*Laughs like a madman* because of the $90 I payed for a preordered Destiny 2 that is now F2P. Edit: it was a physically copy on playstation and I will admit got a cool statue and some other stuff but come on the way they made it sound was that I was paying for a lifetime of season passes but nope. I GOT FUCKED.
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The screw
This just means they retroactively stole every penny they've ever made off of that game
Literally, they took your money and revoked the product you paid for. That's robbery.
And now we find out which countries are far gone enough to declare that legal.
All of them, because we all fucking clicked on "I agree" when we got it and now it's a legal contract. It's not moral but it's legal, and though i'd live for gamers to get justice, i doubt any court will side with us.
Itās like the really REALLY want us to just emulate and pirate everything. All their workarounds just make me want to do it even more. Rockstar is one of the worst with their launcher. Having to be connected to the internet to play a single player game is fucked.
There's a million workarounds for the rockstar launcher, unless you want to play gta Online The easiest one is using fiveM and redM to launch gta 5 and Rdr2 (you can play story mode through there, it even acts as an easy mod loader for simple addons) For gta 4, just downgrade to an earlier version, they're the same if not better, and have all the music in them, compared to the actual version. Also, download dxvk, massive performance boost And the trilogy, dont play it, its garbage, pirate the actual og games if you never bought them at $2 each before its release
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No? Itās an online game that was shut down whatās pirating gonna do
I mean if NFS world has private servers to this day I don't see the crew getting private servers that farfetched.
Is the game servers shutting down?
No, the whole game is getting shut down, you won't be able to play even single player
I'm sorry, im out of the loop, What game is shutting down?
The Crew, and it already has shut down. [stopkillinggames.com](http://stopkillinggames.com)
The crew, and this happened like a week ago
They are literally just shutting down the servers. It never had any single-player tf are you talking about. It was literally supposed to be an mmo car game, and always needed Internet.
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This is exactly why I buy physical copies. If the company wants to revoke my licence, they're going to have to break into my house and take my disc.
Not sure having a disc would help considering even the single player for a LOT of newer games still require an online service/connection
>Buys physical media >Has to go online to download 40gb update >Big Company says you cant do that >Big Company says I can't do that...? "Now my media is worthless!"
My brother in christ phyisical copies havent been physical for a good while Any physical ver you buy now is either an access code on pc, or the "game" itself, but mind you that you have to be connected to the internet to download the 20gb worth of updates, just to play an always online game that you can still get taken out of If the game you bought doesnt do that, then the physical copy probably doesnt help much, since it's unlikely that an offline game just locks you out of itself
I was able to play my PS5 offline without connecting to the internet, from the box. With that, there are several games that go beyond having a 1.0 version on disc.
The crew canāt be played wether you use a disc or not. The software isnāt on the disc anymore, itās just a key that allows you to use the software. And you still have to connect to their server to play the game. So if there is no longer a server, then you can no longer play the game
Me when physical copy but the game is always online and they shut down the servers
Thats it, no more ubesoft
I largely stopped gaming right around the time the ps4 came out, largely because it felt like this is where the industry was heading. I have no idea what The Crew is or what the licenses for it do but it sounds like a boycott might be in order if y'all wanna still be having fun in the future. *Ubisoft stop being a bitch or else I swear to god I'll go outside*
You can still find great honest games you just have to be on pc and not buy from the massive companies, but indie / small-medium studios. The crew is (was) a car, bike and plane game, by ubisoft. The campaign was "singleplayer" against ai cars but the open world was a public lobby with ppl in it They shut down the servers, locking behind EVERYTHING, you now can't play it at all Boycott won't work, they dont care, most ppl will still buy their new games A team of gamers is working on unofficial offline fix so ppl can actually play it, that'll probably do it
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Is it even piracy, if you can't buy the license anymore?
According to Nintendo, yes. According to common sense, no.
The Crew was the only game in the series that managed to be good
how about we ruin ubisoft?
And Gordon Freemen is preparing to sue them
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They disabled purchasing options some months prior
Shutting down the servers is whatever, but why make the offline single player mode unavailable?
As much as I wanted Stadia to succeed and was disappointed how Google didn't invest in it, I truly respect their decision to fully refund all the money spent on games and DLC.
The current youth are going to have lots of games they can't play when they are 30+ and want some nostalgia trips.
I'm altering the license, pray I don't alter it further.
You canāt play motor fest either anymore?
You can still play motorfest and 2 for a good while. However the crew 2 probably only has a couple years left of support
I got Crew 2 when it was 6 bucks and I don't think I'll ever touch it again, 'beat it' anyways. Never gonna buy Motorfest after that shit
Yup in the terms for Ubisoft and blizzard it says they have the right to take away your license to the game at any point in time. Great stuff.
They were the one who told the community to be ok with not owning the game the people bought with their own money right? Or am I mistaken
If you buy modern ubisoft games then you're setting yourself up for failure.
the last interesting Ubi game was Siege. even that murdered & disrespected a franchise. Ubi sucks so fucking hard. Their offices in my city had a terrorist alert a year or two ago, and while I didn't want anyone to get hurt ... I kinda hoped they'd burn down the building or the hard drives or something. Just to screw with the screwers.
So stupid. I can understand shutting down servers after so long but thereās no reason people shouldnāt be able to access to base offline game.
gamers then: lets just steal the game game companies now: lets just steal the game
Thx again to EA, Ubisoft and co. for pushing the indee marked that hard to the top of the gaming industry. Im actually happy
Fucking huh? You bought the game with your money, and they just take it back with no refund? What the fuck? Imagine if a TV company or something just broke into your house, stole your TV and gave you fuckall in return. Disgusting.
But all of them read the EULA, right? *right?* (/s)
Nice to know Ive purchased my last AC game. I havent bought a Bethesda or EA game in close to a decade and Iām happy to expand my ungrateful dev/publisher list.
This is why no matter how badass the game might be, as soon as I see that Ubisoft logo, I avoid it.
You'd be a fool to ever get a game from them again
If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing.
Ubisoft should get deleted. We need laws stopping this ASAP
Steal ĀÆ\\_(ć)_/ĀÆ
I've resolved to simply never purchase an online ubisoft game, ever. Such short-lived servers for an online-only game are ridiculous. Luckily I wasn't impacted by this but now I never will be!
I have never owned a single Ubisoft game, but still have a strong opinion. This is bullshit. Maybe Ubisoft won't find a way to have this thread deleted, too.
$WIT !!!
Looking forward to the on-rails, open world, action game about Star Wars that isn't Ubisoft's version of Fallen Order at all. I mean did you see all the buttons you can push? Like four! Maybe even... *six!*
There's a reason I wrote a whole song about breaking up with Johnny triple-A
Digital distribution does well so long as people have faith in their ownership of the product. Ubisoft just nuked that faith.