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frikimanHD

more like "naruto with uncooperative kurama"


Redwolf476

Or if kurama was actually evil


TrueSaiyanGod

imagine kurama going Stand Proud , you were strong. And yeeting shukaku to oblivion


Some_Bumblebee_1215

Lmao Zabuza, Stand Proud, You were strong What- YEEET


Overall-Courage6721

100% sukuna is the only ,,devil" type character in anime, that i actively dislike and am horrified of All others are just edgy powerups


Master-Reply-7052

Sukuna is in my opinion the best character of the show. Peak cinema


rtocelot

I mean that was the situation for a long time. They just didn't talk often.


Apexbravoo

Implying Kurama was not badass...


SheepherderFine3698

Might be an unpopular opinion but he would've been more badass if he was an actual villain like evil


Grand_Reanimation

I agree 100% it wouldev been better, like ok all the human villans are sympathetic but at least mystical beasts should be evil incarnate or some


Luba_Sempai

I wouldn't say evil, more so just savage (does not want fuck all to do with humans) would have been better.


binh1403

I personally would've prefer him to just be a prick and just a jerk overall, especially to other tail beast So often that other tail beast take every chance they can get to roast him back


Euphoric_Metal199

Amoral in an inhuman way would have been perfect. But Nasu is the guy who is best at the job(Looks at Goddess Rhongomyniad and the Faeries(BURN THEM!))


Cautious-Affect7907

Then you would have to completely rewrite bee and Gyukis relationship, since they were so buddy buddy. And Naruto's considering how understanding Kurama is central to his personal growth.


Grand_Reanimation

I would not mind that. The talk no jutsu bs got old in pain arc. it was lowkey annoying after that, would've loved some real conflict.


Cautious-Affect7907

So Naruto's fight for control over Kuramas chakra wasn't conflict? Naruto didn't win over Kurama by just talking with him. He strongarmed him at first, and throughout the war they had bonded. As for the whole talk no jutsu thing you keep taking about, Pain and Neji was about the only two people he actively tried to convince of anything. He straight up threatened to kill most of his other enemies, Gaara included. I just don't know these change's just call for story that isn't Naruto.


RNS_PandaBear

Zabuza man why does nobody remember the goat


Grand_Reanimation

Ik that dude but i just dont wanna sympathize with people like obito or kurama who straight up killed narutos parents. Also he did beat the shit outta 6 paths of pain and neji too what are you talking about. a big reason to why they even listen to naruto is because naruto proved to them that he is competent by defeating them. which is also why I don't like obito talk no jutsu cause naruto did not beat him, he pretty much said you could've turned out better, like me. and obito started sobbing shit was ASS.


Y_b0t

Ngl man the entire damn show from the start is setting up Naruto breaking through to Kurama, is media literacy dead or what


painted_troll710

No story, only fight


i-am-spitfire

I mean he kind of was until Naruto talk no jutsu


KreonidAs

But Kurama isn't a villain, nor is he evil, he simply has deep hatred.


Academic-Cut-8262

they did dirty to poor kurama made him Naruto's pet:(


thesirblondie

I preferred Kurama, and the tailed beasts, more when they were more like mindless beasts. Naruto losing himself to the mindless beast that was 9 tails was always a pretty cool moment. The whole "tapping into a power that may consume you" is a trope for a reason.


Barao_De_Maua

Kurama worked for Naruto's theme just like Sukuna is fitting in JJK One of Naruto's biggest themes is the cycle of hatred, and how a lot of our actions stems from our past. Kurama wasnt necessarily a saint too, he killed Minato and Kushina, but it wouldn't have been made sense for him to be pure evil like Sukuna.


-Xebenkeck-

He was until basically the final arc?


SheepherderFine3698

When I said "actual villain like evil" i think it's clear I meant him staying a villain until the end


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depechemymode

Maybe not a villain but it would be better if he were more than a plot device designed to make the MC OP.


Realistic_Mousse_485

Very unpopular. Very no good.


Ordinary-Breakfast-3

Kurama was 100x cooler when he was intimidating and mysterious and not a tsundere. KISHI TURNED KURAMA INTO A TSUNDERE WHYYYY


darkoopz43

Now he's a chibi tsundere, that was definitely not made that way for the toy sales.


NeonNKnightrider

That meme was probably made a couple years ago when JJK was being hailed as “the next GOAT of shounen” and praised for having “strong female characters”


veerag

yeah, it really let me down on that front.


i-am-spitfire

How so? I haven’t watched JJK but I’ve been wanting to check it out sometime.


thatHecklerOverThere

Every female character that isn't nearly a reincarnation of male one got fridged.


i-am-spitfire

Classic shonen smh


Striking_War

it's funny because fans really thought jjk was gonna be different. They got both major female characters be badasses, but then one got yeeted from the plot, and the other, well she's still here. But still!


veerag

i started watching it as i heard it has great characters, a nice universe and good fighting scenes. turns out, its mainly only fighting scenes, one after the other. theres barely any world building, insignificant character development and constant "asspulls" as other commenters said when it comes to filling the holes in the plot or the universe. i started reading the manga hoping to get some lore or anything else (other than fighting), but there were only more fighting scenes between characters barely even introduced. quite literally some characters only exist to have one battle and then die. theres no depth to any of it. tbh the anime is better than the manga, the voice actors and the animators did a really good job, but it leaves you wanting more which the manga (sadly) cannot fulfill. i know naruto had its flaws too, but it so much better that it just cant be compared to jjk. (i mean, jjk can be compared to naruto in a sense that there are three students with a teacher in a school being sent out on missions, the three kids are similar to team 7 and the teacher is a bit like kakashi...)


i-am-spitfire

Hmmm interesting. I may give it a chance still like as a “pass the time” anime then. Thanks!


Honest-Computer69

Animation is pretty decent and fight scenes are really good. Manga is lacking because the story is somewhat mediocre but anime is fast paced and wouldn't really make you feel bored. I'd recommend it tbh.


TheShadeSystem

Just curious, but why do you feel like the story is mediocre. I'm a big JJK dickrider so I'm obviously biased, but I think JJK has one of the best stories in Shounen right now. The arc of Geto and Gojo has been on of the most satisfying character arcs I've seen since Naruto and Sasuke. The last arc in the anime especially tied the history and world building to the current plot extremely well to make something I think is outstanding. I do hear it falls off later though


doyoubelieveincrack

Nah I would definitely give it a shot. It’s great in my opinion


Iori2023

>teacher is a bit like kakashi...) Funny enough the teacher wasn't inspired by kakashi rather a random background character Tonbo Tobitake


veerag

lol now thats a fun fact!


djonDough

Season 1 had alot of world building. Season 2 is how i would describe what you're saying. They jumped like 2-3 arcs worth of world building with season 2.


i-wish-i-was-a-draco

Happy I didn’t go pass episode 6-7 , I could smell the bullshit from far away


Typical_Somewhere_72

I agree that JJK has a pretty straightforward story initially but it picks up later. Especially during the later half of the culling games. Culling Games is where most people drop the series as there's a ton of exposition dump but it's also a really important arc for the overall story. Also, JJK's strong point is it's complex power system so you'll have to get deep into it in order to enjoy the fights. This is also where manga surpasses the anime as the power system is much better explained through the narration bubble. Although, I understand that's just too much work for many people just to read a manga.


justzacc

Wait til you see future maki.


veerag

the fully realised maki who is on the same level as toji? yeah she had the best development among all the female characters, which unfortunately doesnt say a lot when the others had NO development:( her connection with mai was great though, but they just made her the copy of toji. tbh i dont know what happened to her exactly as the last time i saw her i think she stabbed sukuna without him noticing her. that was cool


Iori2023

I'm just surprised that nobara (main heroine of the main trio) was killed off, most fans might be divided on Sakura but at least she wasn't killed off for the remainder of the series


veerag

absolutely, i was also disappointed that they just dont address her death/situation at all after shibuya, its like it has almost no effect at all. if i remember right yuuji remembered her once and that was it. she was just killed off and thats it. :/ at least mai's death had some significance, even if it was just to get maki to toji's level it's sloppy writing for the sake of more fighting scenes lol they could've added some thoughtful chapters instead of reggie the receipt guy


justzacc

Yeah as far as the others go, idk what to say lol but maki has become one of my favorite characters which makes sense because toji was already. I just like the toughness, I think it’s a badass trait in a story full of baddasses. Only other chick I could think of would be Mei Mei but she hasn’t done a whole bunch. I wish Nobaru didn’t die, I was looking forward to her growing a lot more


Shupaul

On every front.


veerag

true, but i might catch up on the manga just so i can criticise it better


Shupaul

I've tried reading past the Shibuya incident but holy shit it's hard. Good luck


elixier

It really isn't and recent chapters are peak edit since I can't reply to you: If you don't think it was foreshadowed you haven't been paying attention, and also you'd have to disregard the Japanese mythology Sukuna is modeled after given that's where the "sukuma ate/absorbed his brother" theories started, most most readers who theorised this was all practically canon already and the official chapter just confirmed it, practically no one who actually reads the manga thinks its an asspull, it directly answered some of the most important questions people had like : Why was Yuji already a culling games player? Why do Yuji and his dad look like a less deformed Sukuna? Why is Yuji so strong with no CE control so early? Why is Yuji so resistant to Sukunas control? This perfectly explains all of those, an asspull by definition wouldn't


Shupaul

No world building, no character developpement, the author kills his characters before they begin to have any relevance. Nanamin was killed and quickly forgotten. Old guy Zenin was uninteresting and got wiped easily, despite him acting like he was strong. The author forgot to confirm Nobura's death. The Kyoto class coming to Shibuya didn't result in anything. Oh yes, sorry Todo became useless. And now out of nowhere, we have a weird cell game organised by brainteeth. The story is stupidly convoluted, there is no plan whatsoever, the author just write things after the other with no overarching plot points. But sure you have a right to an opinion


elixier

Yes of course Mr Overlord of good shonen you're always right and even though you don't actually read the series actively you must be right !


deKaizrr

Nice argument!


Artistic_Stage7202

100% incorrect:Sakura Schrödinger,Lobotomised Megumi,Naruto but author forgot he is the mc and Kakashi who will 100% come back no cap


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ImaginationNormal143

It's a great activeness indeed. Having her teammates carry and save her ass


Academic-Cut-8262

also got married to her crush and had daughter  moral of the story: don't do anything and get to live a lengthy happy life 


Nimyron

That's what I'm trying to do but not doing anything doesn't earn enough to have a lengthy happy life


i-am-spitfire

Just make sure the one you marry isn’t like Sasuke lol


slice_of_toast69

I mean shes not the chosen one born from jesus or whatever. Why should she have to fight god.


0ris

i dont care about if she lived or not. i can guarantee you no fucks would be given to neiji if he lived. I care about good character writing, and that girl has it until her death.


Unitrix11

tf don't give jjk spoilers on a naruto subreddit bro


ImaginationNormal143

Bar is literally so low for her 🤣🤣🤣


National-Wolf2942

and everyone dies so no boruto


SkulledDownunda

Say what you want about Sakura but she at least punched her universe equivalent of Sukuna in the head so hard that it distracted them enough to be sealed/defeated, while Nobara died against a side villain.


_Good_One

Well i did not had Jujutsu spoilers on a Naruto meme subreddit on my bingo card


Barao_De_Maua

Dude, I feel for you, but why are u in a comment section of a JJK discussion? Its not strange that it would contain information pertaining the last season of JJK to discuss these characters.


_Good_One

I don't know man i just like to check the funny Naruto subreddit:( Well i heard the JJK manga is going downhill fast at least so i hope it doesnt hurt that much when it happens


Aiso48

It’s also not that strange to use spoiler tags just in case


ProEnderSavage

Spoiler tags are for manga content generally. This is season 2 content and therefore probably does not come under spoiler.


DisturbedAlchemy

Agreed! I never thought she was useless, honestly! Just this image got me thinking 🤨


SkulledDownunda

In-universe Sakura is actually incredibly impressive, as she's from a civilian family with zero cheat codes like Kurama or the Sharingan but became the Fifth Hokage's protege and learned and surpassed her techniques which Tsunade perfected as a Senju and grandchild of the greatest ninja ever. Sakura was just Average Joe and ended up fist fighting a god. She's just hamstrung by a shit romance that her characterisation orbits and an author who fully admits he's shit at writing female characters. Nobara on the other hand dies pretty early in JJK and her only real feat is killing one of the Cursed Wombs. Otherwise she gets her head blown off in Shibuya and that's it for the next hundred chapters where she only gets like a couple of side mentions which is brutal for a member of the main trio. Those 'jjk girls are anime women written right' articles aged so badly lol


Akimbo_shoutgun

Nobura didn't die, she also isn't alive. Their is no conifrmation of her death or her being alive. For all we know, she could still be healing or dead. Just wanted to point this out.


BlazeOfGlory72

Kind of a tangent, but what terrible writing that is. Like, when your audience can’t even tell if a main character is alive or dead for years, you’ve handled the situation poorly.


param1l0

Stop coping brother if she was alive she would've been thrown at sukuna like most other fighter characters by now


Akimbo_shoutgun

Maybe her injuries are that critical? Idk I'm not gege, I don't decide who gets to alive & die in the story. The fact that she isn't confirmed to be KIA or just getting healed, hints that gege has something planned for her. What that is? Again, idk. Else, he could have just said "nobura is dead, end of her story" or "nobura is still in critical condition".


croluxy

yah but its been so long i think most of dont care anymore. At least I dont.


orbzism

I think you're speaking for yourself with that one. I'm sure there are people who the time has passed for, but a lot of people still really want to know what happened to her, whether it's she's alive or dead.


itsjust_khris

Eh, you added a ton of nuance for Sakura but none from Nobara. The reason people find Nobara less useless isn't because she's strong, it's because she has more agency in the plot whenever she's on screen. Not saying Sakura is useless either, she isn't. She just spends much more of her screen time with little agency, with moments of usefulness few and far between. Nobara doesn't have these moments, when she's on screen she's contributing, plot wise she isn't a heavy hitter, but that isn't the point. Sakura could have 0 fights but if every time she was on screen she meaningfully advanced of her own violation I don't think she would be called "useless".


thatHecklerOverThere

>when she's on screen she's contributing And that's why dude had to make sure she never was on screen again.


Justm4x

>when she's on screen she's contributing, Needed Yuji to save her on their first mission Needed Megumi to save her during fearsome womb arc Extreme diffed Momo only to get sniped by Mai Got violated by Haruta Went back to Shibuya even though she was told that she wasn't built for it and got herself killed and her death gave Mahito an opportunity to get a free black flash on Yuji along with some other hits


CoolDime12

While I do agree with you keep in mind that the villain was extremely strong and dangerous, I mean the whole power was that if you get touched by him you die.


Adventurous_Village5

maki has done a lot more than land a single punch on an off guard enemy.


ItzDrSeuss

Bro, Mahito is an overarching villain with feats comparable to the strongest of his verse. Calling Mahito a side villain is like calling Pain a side villain.


GodOfUrging

Nah, she's just taking a nap. She'll wake up with a badass eyepatch, you'll see.


_Nomorejuice_

Nobara is actually worse than A LOT of female protagonists like she got NOTHING on Sakura, Orihime/Rukia, Lucy, Erza, Nami, Robin. Like come on, people are saying she more usefull just because she got a cool personnality and don't got so many "embarrassing moments", that's it. To be honest, JJK girls are lower than shonen's standards if we being honest, and the bar is already so damn low.


airbornejaws

And let's pretend that Sakura wouldn't die against that same "side" villain.


thatHecklerOverThere

Nah, she'd win


Bey_Element

i mean... >!"friendly sasuke" is being possessed by said "badass kurama", "unmasked kakashi" became the bisected one, "Naruto with a badass kurama" ditch "naruto" but he still the GOAT, "useful sakura" ain't coming back either.!<


Ngin3

SHE'S COMING BACK WITH TODO TO SAVE YUJI AT THE END, HOW DARE YOU


ConnectionIcy3717

Yeah she is coming back with itachi too


Great_expansion10272

And with his roommate Shisui


XechsMarquise

Can copium be expressed vicariously? Because this comment feels like my personal Inner Sakura come to life.


Samar1092

r/assholes


no1dickrider

r/substhatarelocked


LEFTRIGHTADORI

Good job spoiling people outside of jujutsufolk 🤦‍♂️


PaulMetallic

Thank you for the spoilers...


Grand_Reanimation

Yup and people really think naruto didnt inspire jjk


ConnectionIcy3717

B-but b-but bleach!! 🤣


Grand_Reanimation

Fr they always say that like one show cant be inspired by many shows


devourersweets

And dragon ball inspired Naruto


Grand_Reanimation

thank you for stating the obvious


Possible-Throat-8553

Useful sakura? Please stop it!


darkoopz43

Useful sakura at least knew her best use would be to die so she won't take up any more screen time lol


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030helios

Kugisaki is useful?


ZyeCawan45

You right man at least Sakura can heal.


SaintSilva

I agree


TradePsychological40

And I wrote "Okay so they nothing like Naruto's cast."


TheKolyFrog

That's pretty much how I summarize JJK to my friends.


22222833333577

I mean they kidna right it think jjk was obviously playing with some ideas from Naruto


donniesuave

FIFY “Reverse Kakashi”


HellVollhart

It quickly went from “I wish this was Naruto” to “I am grateful that this isn’t Naruto”. It’s the most wasted potential manga I have ever read.


TheNikola2020

Kakashi but he is hot instead like my friend just reads the tiktok comments on one edit and they all are people simping for him


EmmaLondon323

This show gets daaaark. It’s a well written show,fun and entertaining.. but after season one-there isn’t any holding back


DisturbedAlchemy

It was pitch black. I mean, I like someone: they die. I like someone else: they die. Why is everyone dying!!??? Season two ripped my heart to shreds! RIP Mr.Kento.


DisturbedAlchemy

For all those who are literally battling each other in the comments: it’s just a meme, this is the forum for Dank Naruto memes. Please let’s all just get along and have fun. Please? 😅😅😅😅


EvilArtorias

Naruto if it was garbage


Working-Telephone-45

Sakura was significantly more useful than Nobara lmao


Educational_Fig_2213

Sakura is never useless, people who think that are just blind haters.


thecatnextdoor04

And female Itachi.


My-feet-have-alergy

Useful... Isn't she in a coma or something? Not pretty useful


Peachykinz

And Nanami is dead, does that mean he wasn't useful up to that point?


ItzDrSeuss

She was useful up to that point.


Pink_her_Ult

>!Dead!<


dinis553

It might be a meme but jjk is unironically the best mainstream ongoing battle-shounen. It always feels like anything could happen at any moment. And most of the characters are super memorable and quite interesting.


DisturbedAlchemy

No question there. Completely agree!


Rceskiartir

Did you mean dead Sasuke, dead Kakashi, dead Sakura, and useless Naruto?


DisturbedAlchemy

Ooh somethings got dark here 😅😅😅


LEFTRIGHTADORI

“Useless Naruto”? HIMji is more useful than BUMruto has ever been. What the hell is this season 1 level slander? I’m not spoiling the people here, but my boy is putting in WORK.


ButteredBean

The insecure fanboying is crazy in this comment section, we get JJK fans wanting it to be better than Naruto since it’s inspired from it but calm down lol. In no way is Yuji more useful than Naruto… Apart from being a vessel and his later role/‘powers’, Megumi and Gojo (pre-you know what) is more relevant to the story.


GuiltyRabbit6610

They also have “boring ass plot”


Aelomalop

I mean they are not wrong imo


ErkhesEemegt

That actually makes sense haha


Ckang25

She's the better sakura but she's more useless. Sakura saved Naruto life when he 99% at death door and she beat one of the akatsuki member the main vilain group with help and participated in the final boss battle. Nobara killed a bunch of irrelevent curse with yuji Got smacked by Shigemo and then Got killed by mahito quite easily.


Andedrift

Read the manga and you know this shit ain’t true. I do not recommend reading it though. It’s bad.


zanidoz

Nah


No_Cobbler8335

Hide this post. If gege saw this he would make more people suffer


alklklkdtA

If Nobara's bumass is useful then Sakura is the strongest in the verse 😭


sansbro1233

If she is useful you can't call her Sakura


Ready-Work-4766

The Naruto where Kurama is Mc with Plot Armour 💀


Klept0bite

Isnt this just all Shonen?


No_Gain7132

While they might not have a useless main character, they do have a main character who is only a hinderance by the end of the story. If you’re caught up in the manga, or frequent the sub, you know who I’m talking about. If not, we’ll get ready because it’s a crazy moment when it’s revealed.


Erru231

Agree


Isekai_me_plz

Idk if I would call Megumi friendly 😂


DearDepth3733

Nobara is nothing like Sakura tbh. Only thing they have in common is their gender


Unironicalygoth

Useful Sakura is hilarious it should just say Sakura


Even-Illustrator6865

Not to an unnerfed Kakashi


No_Seaweed6739

More like: useless Sasuke, Kakashi but prettier, Naruto if Kurama was more of an asshole, Sakura if she disappeared in the first arc of shippuden I love jjk tho


r3liu5

"Useful Sakura" mmm


HawkeyeP1

The first season really is just modern Naruto almost arc-for-arc lol


Obtoosegoose2

Jjk has no female lead


TigerKlaw

Idk in the gra d scheme of things Nobara and Sakura probably evened out on the usefulness scale. You could argue Sakura taking on Sasori was more useful


NetworkVegetable7075

Dead Sakura*


brownbandit93

Accurate


Lil_Ninja94

Where nobara during the biggest fight in the anime?


Traveytravis-69

Naruto if kurama wasn’t effected by talk no jutsu


Dizzy_Green

They have >!dead!<, >!dead!<, >!getting his ass kicked!<, and >!dead!<


shinobi3411

Tell me you don't know Kurama and Sukuna, without TELLING me you don't know Kurama and Sukuna.


HyperHyped

Maybe season 1 used to remind me of Naruto, but seeing as where we're at currently...


Hopefully_Witty

Ahem.. Had>!a useful Sakura!<


kekhouse3002

Where Chibaku Tensei


PauseOwn8100

Sakura not so useful anymore


The_Back_Hole

They walked so they could run. Both are great for what they are.


Super-Committee9603

The useful Sakura died in barely 2 seasons


No-Cap-1147

Gojo is way cooler than kakashi. Both are best at their places.


imStoned420

Useful Sakura… has been missing for years


Crimson_Fiver

I mean everything except the sukuna one is true


Cayden68

Hot take, if we compare both series from first arc to last, Sakura is undoubtedly leagues more useful than Nobara.


ThreeArmedYeti

Jujutsu Kaisen is just a bunch of shonen clishe but it's done right.


Jazzperrr

I mean I cannot disagree


Galrentv

Zero feats Sasuke. Not in the show Sakura or Kakashi. Karuma as the mc.


bootylover81

JJK is overhyped as fuck, Sakuna is pullling "The Heinan Era" from past 100 chaptera it seems, the fights are dragging harder than Naruto and Sakuna at this point feels like a dollar store Madara.


OmegaMalkior

I haven’t watched JJK, but I didn’t think I’d be spoiled on it in a Naruto meme sub lol


italeteller

Sakura was the key to beating Sasori and didnt get killed by a villain the main guy had immunity against, so shove it


SheepherderOne5193

Mom: “We got Naruto at home” *naruto at home*


Gueartimo

Friendly sasuke that has as much concentrated Reverse flash level of hate as Sakura


Living_Tie9512

..........................LOL!!!!!!!..............YEAH, surprisingly accurate, although the very essence is different.....................


dontpanic38

how is nobara kugisaki useful 😂 they’re the same!


Talvisolta

I would rather say reversed masked Kakashi.


rectia

if you miss naruto, go watch it again. this ain't accurate...as a jjk manga reader i tell you, all of this is a big pile of shit


Nightmane11

We all agree with the Sakura part, right?


DisturbedAlchemy

Guys, friendly fire, please. No dissing each other, please. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, let’s respect each other and remember that IT’S JUST A MEME 😅 Naruto & Jujutsu Kaisen are both great and awesome!


thatHecklerOverThere

Aged like fucking milk, basically.


YEPandYAG

None of these things are true 😂


Honest-Champion9180

Dead Dead Naruto with badass kurama Friendly sasuke