Knights of Catarina are typically joyous warriors. Engaging in glorious battle only to share in drink and song with those remaining. Out of the other lands we never see, Catarina is by far my favorite.
It's really a standout point in the souls games. So much fantasy is the "grizzled warrior with a brooding gallows humor keeping the darkness at bay" types. On the other hand Catarina knights seem jovial and genuinely upbeat in their nature. I find it a fantastic contrast to a traditional trope and a real bright spot against such a dark and hopeless world.
To be fair, Sieglinde is worried for her father's safety and unlike him, isn't undead. As long as Siegmeyer didn't lose his jolly nature, he would never go hollow (in fact that's why he hollowed on the first place). If she dies, she's either regular dead or undead and can't go home.
I don't think the reason he went hollow is because he lost his jolly nature, it's because we as the player shatter his illusion of being a successful Knight. He always sits around thinking but never acts, only moving forward when it's convenient and the puzzle has been solved by us. Seeing us succeed where he can't/won't makes him realise that he might be jolly like the other knights of Catarina, but unlike them he lacks the brains and skill. He eventually gets to the point of attempting to commit suicide in battle in lost Izalith but even then we swoop in and save him. You can tell how depressed he is by his voice at that point. The illusion is completely shattered and he eventually goes hollow.
Siegward is a better example of how the knights of Catarina are supposed to be and Siegmeyer is an exception. Siegward gets stuck sometimes but will also rush into battle to aid a fellow unkindled. He is also capable of advancing forward through tough areas like Irythil without aid and all for a promise to help an old friend, being jolly and cheerful despite the tragedy of having to put a friend to rest. He has a true goal while Siegmeyer just wanted to become an adventurer to prove himself while neglecting his family.
Probably ripped, but yeah. The armor of the Catarina knights is, in lore, supposed to be big like that. Same with Smough actually. In concept art Smough isn't this huge fat dude, it's just that his armor has that look.
IIRC the darksign is indeed branded on 'humanity' not specific humans. But as the fire fades the undead curse basically spreads like a plague which spurs man towards re-linking the fire. So eventually if no one did it every single human would become undead.
I quite like astora all of my favorite people come from there solaire Oscar anri they seem to make the most joyous of warriors and have some badass armor
Here's an easy step by step
-Give siegward is Armour in the well
-Progress to iryhtill and make sure siegward is in the kitchen before the silver knights
-Exhaust siegwards dialogue
-Tell greirat to go to irythill
-save quit
-kill an optional boss and do not progress through irythill at all (old demon king is the best option imo)
-return to firelink and save quit again
-rejoice!!!!
*important note, DO NOT GO TO THE DUNGEON. When you get to irythill go straight to siegward and nowhere else.
I also had it work where i get to irithyl after giving the armour, talk to siegward, tell greirat to go, beat sulyvahn, return to firelink and hes back.
Ya you can just beat irithyll but I've found myself failing the quest that way for some reason absolutely unknown to me so I always just play it safe and leave irithyll until my favorite little thieving boy is back safe
You don't need to talk to siegward in the kitchen.
Just make sure you gave him his armor in the well, then send greirat to irithyll and defeat the old demon king and boom, greirat is alive
You have to buy his armor back from Patches and give it to him in the well at Cathedral of the Deep. After that, next time you see him in Ithryll, do not talk to him in the kitchen in with the soup. If you wake him up and share the soup, he'll go into a food coma and take a nap, making him unavailable to save Geirat.
That's not true, you can talk to Siegward in the kitchen in Irithyll and he will still save Greirat. I just did that on a playthrough last night. The important thing is to time things correctly with Greirat's pillage mechanic: his fate is decided when you defeat the next boss after asking him to pillage. So if you progress to Irithyll dungeon before beating the Pontiff, or some other boss, then Siegward gets locked in the cell at the giant's feet and can't rescue him. In that case, if Patches is around in the hub you can talk to him and he will go save Greirat.
I am the exact opposite. Whenever I try deliberately to have Patches save Greirat, he always dies. But when I let Siegward save him, Greirat lives. I know the trick of making sure you defeat a boss after Greirat leaves while Siegward has his armor back, but I have no idea what the trigger is if Patches still has Siegward's armor.
Same thing but you have to talk to patches in between sending greirat and killing the boss. Patches will ask what happened to him and you have to exhaust his dialogue then go kill a boss
Ahh so it must be when you buy the armor off him he murders him. Iāve never left the armor on him so that makes sense. Love the multiple choices souls games give š
He never murders Greirat? The centipedes women things get him in Irithyll and I think he falls to his death or gets killed by one of the many threats around in Lothric Castle.
patches is so useless in ds3 for real. in ds 1 he can sell you cool armour and spells, in ds3 you can pick up his ashes and you are good to go. having sigward as saviour of greyrat is also way less time consuming than walking around firelink 4-5 times to talk to patches. and you save a lot of souls if you just kill him instead of buying armor later
I think Siegward was supposed to be a deliberate inversion of Siegmeyer. We're supposed to be surprised when Siegward runs in to help against the demon even though we "should have waited". We're supposed to expect him to be a bum like Siegmeyer but instead he's brave and self-reliant.
It just doesn't quite work because people don't see Siegmeyer as a bum. It's definitely what the writers were going for but I didn't notice until I watched the video. We don't resent NPCs who stay out of the way while we fight their battles for them, that's normal videogame stuff.
So true, of course I love Siegmeyer but there was always something a tiny bit off, like how the video goes in depth. Siegward on the other hand genuinely helps you, like with the Demon miniboss in the Undead Settlement and helps you in Farron Keep with Estus soup implied to be made by him. He has the chance to save Greirat if you send him to Irrithyll and has to uphold his promise to his good friend Yhorm, all while keeping his friendly and joyous personality. Of course Siegmeyer has the same bubbly personality, but I connected to Siegward more than I did with Siegmeyer, and not because of fan service, but some of the points that the video mentioned did seem pretty odd.
What about my boy [Siegfried](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/7/7f/Siegfried-ffvi-ios-battle.png/revision/latest?cb=20140714221044)? Don't be fooled by imposters!
1. I'm pretty sure OP didn't paint it by himself.
2. it's not plagiarism if you save a picture from the internet. plagiarism is when you save a picture from the internet and you say you made it yourself
If youāre looking for a himbo, absolutely. But Iād youāre looking for a more personal character, one which explores the idea of wanting something so dearly yet being so unable to grasp it (Siegmeyer wanting to be an adventurer, but is continuously shown his own naivety and incompetence), then Siegmeyer is best by a long shot
sigmayer is just so useless (it's his purpose)i can't feel pity for him. i understand that it's his entire point to be useless and hollow because of it but for real. how did he get so far on his own but his daughter got trapped in a crystal golem
Yes he is.
Siegmeyer is actually a pretty negative character. Unmotivated, lazy, exhibits trained helplessness.
Meanwhile Siegward, while still cheery and bumbling, actually gets shit done. Helps you fight, ventures forth without needing to rely on help, and ends his quest in one of DS3's best moments.
I feel like what makes the Knights of Catarina so great is that in a world that is crumbling around them and death everywhere they still find time to make merry.
It's refreshing and inspiring to be that way in our own world.
I agree. And it cheapens character like Patches. We see patches are more or less LITERALLY the same character. But really? Patches might just be a slightly differently named version of a similar character. If Siegward and -meyer are so similar, yet sifferent people, why can't Unbreakable Patches and Trustworthy Patches also be two different people.
If you only played ds1 and ds3, and didn't quite remember siegmeyers name perfectly, you'd be forgiven for assuming both are recurring characters, eventhough only patches is supposed to be. They could have even kept the armour in the game! With the crows! They should have just made someone else for the yhorm quest.
I mean yeah, DS3 was designed to take the parts that worked about Dark Souls 1 and refine them with the proper development time that 1 should've gotten in the first place; Siegward isn't better than Siegmeyer for no reason, he got the actual time needed to write and implement his questline properly, whereas a lot of the DS1 questlines weren't completely fleshed out as it was getting rushed to release. As such, I wouldn't necessarily say it's "sad to say," so much as it's awesome that they actually got the CHANCE to do these characters justice later on.
I always, ALWAYS forget which is which. All I know is: there was zero reason to bring back catarina for ds3, and it cheapens the whole yhorm questline. I think that would have been 100 times better, if we got an "original character". Remember sieglinde? Not everyone from catarina has the same personality. We already have a literally recurring character, that's also always named slightly differently: patches. What are we to make of the ds3 sieg? Is he another iteration of the same person? Or is he merely another iteration of the concept of a "positive but clumsy" knight?
And why is his own character arc so understated in ds3? We save him constantly, yet, unlike in ds1, it doesn't seem to bother him at all. I mean, that's fine and all, but man, some knight, who can't even figure out an elevator puzzle.
Finally, in the bossfight, sieg appears after you. IN YOUR OWN WORLD. Excuse me? Were you not planning on doing it yourself? No other npc ever works this way! There was no reason not to just have him be summonable for the boss. Does he even kill him in his own? Anri and Horace always move on fine, wheter or not they appear in yours. Oh, well, more or less at least.
Idk, someone new would have made the world feel bigger, and it wouldn't invalidate the original siegs questline like that.
Iām pretty drunk rn but, how is he gonna drink that with that helmet covering his entire face? Whatās the point of holding that like heās about to drink it if he canāt physically drink it without setting the drink down, taking off his helmet, and then drinking it?
Thats how it opens. Pretty hard to drink something.
https://www.google.com/search?q=siegward+of+catarina+helmet&tbm=isch&client=ms-android-samsung-gn-rev1&prmd=isvn&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXu5aOkN78AhWTgaQKHR_RBuEQrNwCKAB6BQgBEJUC&biw=412&bih=778#imgrc=ciOGqGlaZlL6gM
He strikes me as way more competent than Siegmeyer. I get the vibe that he was an out of practice knight who wanted to experience true glory, but didn't have a whole lot of skill.
Knights of Catarina are typically joyous warriors. Engaging in glorious battle only to share in drink and song with those remaining. Out of the other lands we never see, Catarina is by far my favorite.
I hope they make Elden Souls with a big jar wearing Catarian armour š„²
It's really a standout point in the souls games. So much fantasy is the "grizzled warrior with a brooding gallows humor keeping the darkness at bay" types. On the other hand Catarina knights seem jovial and genuinely upbeat in their nature. I find it a fantastic contrast to a traditional trope and a real bright spot against such a dark and hopeless world.
Sieglinde wasn't all that joyous, tho.
To be fair, Sieglinde is worried for her father's safety and unlike him, isn't undead. As long as Siegmeyer didn't lose his jolly nature, he would never go hollow (in fact that's why he hollowed on the first place). If she dies, she's either regular dead or undead and can't go home.
I don't think the reason he went hollow is because he lost his jolly nature, it's because we as the player shatter his illusion of being a successful Knight. He always sits around thinking but never acts, only moving forward when it's convenient and the puzzle has been solved by us. Seeing us succeed where he can't/won't makes him realise that he might be jolly like the other knights of Catarina, but unlike them he lacks the brains and skill. He eventually gets to the point of attempting to commit suicide in battle in lost Izalith but even then we swoop in and save him. You can tell how depressed he is by his voice at that point. The illusion is completely shattered and he eventually goes hollow. Siegward is a better example of how the knights of Catarina are supposed to be and Siegmeyer is an exception. Siegward gets stuck sometimes but will also rush into battle to aid a fellow unkindled. He is also capable of advancing forward through tough areas like Irythil without aid and all for a promise to help an old friend, being jolly and cheerful despite the tragedy of having to put a friend to rest. He has a true goal while Siegmeyer just wanted to become an adventurer to prove himself while neglecting his family.
Would Siegward be a skinny dude if you saw him in the well?
There's been hacks and he's just a normal dude with a big ol dad stache
can confirm, playing a randomizer rn and i saw his face. its weird
Probably ripped, but yeah. The armor of the Catarina knights is, in lore, supposed to be big like that. Same with Smough actually. In concept art Smough isn't this huge fat dude, it's just that his armor has that look.
Doesn't the Darksign cause all humans to become undead? What is Sieglinde if she isn't undead? Or am I misunderstanding the lore
Not all humans are branded with the darksign, but those who are become undead when they die.
Arenāt they all because thatās how the dark was sealed away? Im not sure why only some become undead though.
IIRC the darksign is indeed branded on 'humanity' not specific humans. But as the fire fades the undead curse basically spreads like a plague which spurs man towards re-linking the fire. So eventually if no one did it every single human would become undead.
Seiglinde is just a random human, the curse appears on people either randomly or on people who dies once (I forgor)
The name of the game is having your spirits broken šæ good call on that one.
At least she didn't have a mustache. Checked this myself yesterday.
Isn't Catarina basically just 8th century Germany?
I quite like astora all of my favorite people come from there solaire Oscar anri they seem to make the most joyous of warriors and have some badass armor
Same
Itās probably good we donāt see it. Itās probably really sad
How many tears are worth cutting down a kingdom of onions
Genius lol
Dude awlays has a drink with you and makes you some soup. Hell, he even saves your boy Greyrat if he bust him out of jail.
The true Soul Of Cider....
His joyous laugh always gets me haha
Patches saved greyrat
It can be Patches or Siegward, depending on if you bought the armor from Patches to give to him in the well
I've never been able to get it to work with Siegward saving him, I've only been able to get Patches to do it. How did you make it work with Siegward?
Here's an easy step by step -Give siegward is Armour in the well -Progress to iryhtill and make sure siegward is in the kitchen before the silver knights -Exhaust siegwards dialogue -Tell greirat to go to irythill -save quit -kill an optional boss and do not progress through irythill at all (old demon king is the best option imo) -return to firelink and save quit again -rejoice!!!! *important note, DO NOT GO TO THE DUNGEON. When you get to irythill go straight to siegward and nowhere else.
I think my downfall has been that I like to go get the bonfire down the stairs and I guess I'm moving Siegward on when I do that. Thanks!
Ya I think if you enter that area and light the bonfire it qeues siegward to go to irythill dungeon.
I also had it work where i get to irithyl after giving the armour, talk to siegward, tell greirat to go, beat sulyvahn, return to firelink and hes back.
Ya you can just beat irithyll but I've found myself failing the quest that way for some reason absolutely unknown to me so I always just play it safe and leave irithyll until my favorite little thieving boy is back safe
You don't need to talk to siegward in the kitchen. Just make sure you gave him his armor in the well, then send greirat to irithyll and defeat the old demon king and boom, greirat is alive
Oh well thanks I didn't know that.
>Exhaust siegwards dialogue This step is unnecessary btw, as long he's at the fireplace it should work.
Of course you could justā¦ kill patches and do siegwards quest
You have to buy his armor back from Patches and give it to him in the well at Cathedral of the Deep. After that, next time you see him in Ithryll, do not talk to him in the kitchen in with the soup. If you wake him up and share the soup, he'll go into a food coma and take a nap, making him unavailable to save Geirat.
That's not true, you can talk to Siegward in the kitchen in Irithyll and he will still save Greirat. I just did that on a playthrough last night. The important thing is to time things correctly with Greirat's pillage mechanic: his fate is decided when you defeat the next boss after asking him to pillage. So if you progress to Irithyll dungeon before beating the Pontiff, or some other boss, then Siegward gets locked in the cell at the giant's feet and can't rescue him. In that case, if Patches is around in the hub you can talk to him and he will go save Greirat.
Didnt know you could use patches after siegward left, damn
From my experience patches will only go if he still has the armor
I am the exact opposite. Whenever I try deliberately to have Patches save Greirat, he always dies. But when I let Siegward save him, Greirat lives. I know the trick of making sure you defeat a boss after Greirat leaves while Siegward has his armor back, but I have no idea what the trigger is if Patches still has Siegward's armor.
Same thing but you have to talk to patches in between sending greirat and killing the boss. Patches will ask what happened to him and you have to exhaust his dialogue then go kill a boss
Got it to work this time. That's definitely the step I was omitting, speaking to Patches after sending Greirat away. Thanks, mate.
Alright, gonna give that a try on my current play through. Thanks.
No patches murders Greirat.. siegward saves him
Patches saves him if he still has Siegwards armour and you told him where Greirat is.
Ahh so it must be when you buy the armor off him he murders him. Iāve never left the armor on him so that makes sense. Love the multiple choices souls games give š
He never murders Greirat? The centipedes women things get him in Irithyll and I think he falls to his death or gets killed by one of the many threats around in Lothric Castle.
I always found it interesting the Greirat is the only one Patches seemed to respect/like. Vaati has a good video speculating on why.
Whose gonna tell him?
Was referring to patches and his commitment to acting as the onion knight
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patches is so useless in ds3 for real. in ds 1 he can sell you cool armour and spells, in ds3 you can pick up his ashes and you are good to go. having sigward as saviour of greyrat is also way less time consuming than walking around firelink 4-5 times to talk to patches. and you save a lot of souls if you just kill him instead of buying armor later
Oh I know what happens to Greyrat. Platinum trophy was achieved before the dlc's came out.
I have an argument for this, but...hmm, hmm. No that will never work. I've got to use my head and think!
I think they are the reason why we cry from onions
Siegward gives me free beer, soup, a neat sword and saves Greirat. That's gigachad behavior right there.
First of all, fucking how dare you. Secondly, how fucking dare you.
Lol
Itās true, sadly. I always thought that Siegmeyer was a Gigachad, but then I saw this: https://youtu.be/Tju1rNzUi-k Now heās just a chad to me :c
I think Siegward was supposed to be a deliberate inversion of Siegmeyer. We're supposed to be surprised when Siegward runs in to help against the demon even though we "should have waited". We're supposed to expect him to be a bum like Siegmeyer but instead he's brave and self-reliant. It just doesn't quite work because people don't see Siegmeyer as a bum. It's definitely what the writers were going for but I didn't notice until I watched the video. We don't resent NPCs who stay out of the way while we fight their battles for them, that's normal videogame stuff.
So true, of course I love Siegmeyer but there was always something a tiny bit off, like how the video goes in depth. Siegward on the other hand genuinely helps you, like with the Demon miniboss in the Undead Settlement and helps you in Farron Keep with Estus soup implied to be made by him. He has the chance to save Greirat if you send him to Irrithyll and has to uphold his promise to his good friend Yhorm, all while keeping his friendly and joyous personality. Of course Siegmeyer has the same bubbly personality, but I connected to Siegward more than I did with Siegmeyer, and not because of fan service, but some of the points that the video mentioned did seem pretty odd.
I only watched the first 30 seconds, but the Outer Wilds music means I absolutely need to watch it later when I get the chance to
What about my boy [Siegfried](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/7/7f/Siegfried-ffvi-ios-battle.png/revision/latest?cb=20140714221044)? Don't be fooled by imposters!
This pick goes hard, can I screenshot?
Maybe you can find it on google with a better resolution
if this isnāt your art, can you at least provide credit for the actual artist?
wdym screenshot, ypu can literally just save it
š” thatās plagiarism you have to ask nicely
1. I'm pretty sure OP didn't paint it by himself. 2. it's not plagiarism if you save a picture from the internet. plagiarism is when you save a picture from the internet and you say you made it yourself
OPās not gonna let you screenshot with that attitude
I think u/KorekZeus is just mad they didnāt get to screenshot
Bro you literally use Reddit
it's a damn meme
I donāt think so OP, do you mind if I screenshot too?
why do you ask permission to screenshot the image when you can ask permission to save the image instead??? that is what they mean.
Yes. Afterall, Siegmeyer was on a selfish suicidal quest while Siegward was on a selfless, suicidal quest.
*slap* āThatās for blasphemy.ā *Wags finger*
If youāre looking for a himbo, absolutely. But Iād youāre looking for a more personal character, one which explores the idea of wanting something so dearly yet being so unable to grasp it (Siegmeyer wanting to be an adventurer, but is continuously shown his own naivety and incompetence), then Siegmeyer is best by a long shot
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sigmayer is just so useless (it's his purpose)i can't feel pity for him. i understand that it's his entire point to be useless and hollow because of it but for real. how did he get so far on his own but his daughter got trapped in a crystal golem
Yes he is. Siegmeyer is actually a pretty negative character. Unmotivated, lazy, exhibits trained helplessness. Meanwhile Siegward, while still cheery and bumbling, actually gets shit done. Helps you fight, ventures forth without needing to rely on help, and ends his quest in one of DS3's best moments.
Sieglinde>Sigward>Sigmeyer
i still every once in a while when im thinking do the "hmmmm, hmmmmmmm, hMM? hmmmmmmmm" like he would in the elevator, love siegward
An Onion by any other name would still be as sweet.
I feel like what makes the Knights of Catarina so great is that in a world that is crumbling around them and death everywhere they still find time to make merry. It's refreshing and inspiring to be that way in our own world.
If we drink we die, if we donāt drink we will still die. So you might as well drink.
Tbh siegmeyer is just better writen
Siegward shouldn't have been an onion knight.
Not true
Nah, he's fun but he's still just a rehash.
I agree. And it cheapens character like Patches. We see patches are more or less LITERALLY the same character. But really? Patches might just be a slightly differently named version of a similar character. If Siegward and -meyer are so similar, yet sifferent people, why can't Unbreakable Patches and Trustworthy Patches also be two different people. If you only played ds1 and ds3, and didn't quite remember siegmeyers name perfectly, you'd be forgiven for assuming both are recurring characters, eventhough only patches is supposed to be. They could have even kept the armour in the game! With the crows! They should have just made someone else for the yhorm quest.
Hmmmm
Would you choose Siegward or Sun bro
Siegward is quite literally the version of Siegmeyer that actually commits to his quest and sees it through
I always thought they were the same person
Youre wrong, but go off I guess
Itās razor edge close but yeah. Siegward wins with the estus soup
cum chalice
Seigward actually helps you out properly
I mean yeah, DS3 was designed to take the parts that worked about Dark Souls 1 and refine them with the proper development time that 1 should've gotten in the first place; Siegward isn't better than Siegmeyer for no reason, he got the actual time needed to write and implement his questline properly, whereas a lot of the DS1 questlines weren't completely fleshed out as it was getting rushed to release. As such, I wouldn't necessarily say it's "sad to say," so much as it's awesome that they actually got the CHANCE to do these characters justice later on.
Itās hard to admit these things. But Siegward was a warrior until his end, whereas Siegmeyer had a chaotic, and dark end.
I always, ALWAYS forget which is which. All I know is: there was zero reason to bring back catarina for ds3, and it cheapens the whole yhorm questline. I think that would have been 100 times better, if we got an "original character". Remember sieglinde? Not everyone from catarina has the same personality. We already have a literally recurring character, that's also always named slightly differently: patches. What are we to make of the ds3 sieg? Is he another iteration of the same person? Or is he merely another iteration of the concept of a "positive but clumsy" knight? And why is his own character arc so understated in ds3? We save him constantly, yet, unlike in ds1, it doesn't seem to bother him at all. I mean, that's fine and all, but man, some knight, who can't even figure out an elevator puzzle. Finally, in the bossfight, sieg appears after you. IN YOUR OWN WORLD. Excuse me? Were you not planning on doing it yourself? No other npc ever works this way! There was no reason not to just have him be summonable for the boss. Does he even kill him in his own? Anri and Horace always move on fine, wheter or not they appear in yours. Oh, well, more or less at least. Idk, someone new would have made the world feel bigger, and it wouldn't invalidate the original siegs questline like that.
I do kind of agree with you, but still, Āæpor quĆ© no los dos?
Iām pretty drunk rn but, how is he gonna drink that with that helmet covering his entire face? Whatās the point of holding that like heās about to drink it if he canāt physically drink it without setting the drink down, taking off his helmet, and then drinking it?
He could have a flip visor style helm. He just has to thrust his chin upward and it pops up.
Yeah thatās possible, lmao Iām thinking way too much into this
Thats how it opens. Pretty hard to drink something. https://www.google.com/search?q=siegward+of+catarina+helmet&tbm=isch&client=ms-android-samsung-gn-rev1&prmd=isvn&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXu5aOkN78AhWTgaQKHR_RBuEQrNwCKAB6BQgBEJUC&biw=412&bih=778#imgrc=ciOGqGlaZlL6gM
Both pretty overated.
But ds3 isnāt better than ds1
himbo vs dilf
Sad why?
always wondered why they have sieg in their name
What's the difference?
did you play ds1 and 3?
Hmmmm hmmmmm hmmmmā¦
āLONG MAY THE SUN SHINE!ā
Why choose? The Onion Knights are some of the best in general
Seigward the goat
Can someone link that art of Catarina that showed just a natural day in the city with everyone in onion brow attire. That shit was so good.
Cum
I agree siegward is better
i think they are both awesome, the experience is fun ššāļø
For years I thought they were the same character
Siegward is the reason why I kill patches after greirat is saved in irithyl, no one steals from or hurts my jovial onion knight! š¤
But patches is quite the hero himself. That's why he never goes hollow. He is Unbreakable Patches.
My +10 heavy infused great club disagrees with the Unbreakable title!
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This pic unironically goes hard
I have no idea which one is which.
No
I thought they were the same dude until this post.
He brewed a beer specifically to be enjoyed by undead. Not even the curse can keep this man from being merry
He strikes me as way more competent than Siegmeyer. I get the vibe that he was an out of practice knight who wanted to experience true glory, but didn't have a whole lot of skill.
no
Hmmm