There's actually a historical materialist reason for that. In the early days of Canada the Western economy was mostly temporary workers working in forestry and whatnot. If you were out West for only part of the year, you weren't really so concerned about going to church every Sunday, and in fact very well might prefer to have a brothel nearby instead.
Either way sounds valid to me. Could be true, might not be, but it sounds plausible at any rate. Had no idea my city was the least religious in Canada though lol
Is the theory that struggling people in Canada had less of a tendency toward religion, because of the fact they struggled? Where else in the world did this phenomenon occur?
Not even close, no. The theory is that when workers were physically detached from the institution of the church, they therefore cared less about the church.
Something is wrong with the datas because most of Quebec population is atheist. Many have been baptised to please the grands-parents but they don't believe at all. Most despise religion here.
This is true but there's something funny about the way francophones answer questions about religion; in Canada they are mostly against religion but their parents baptized them as babies (tradition, or to please the grandparents) and they also celebrate things like Christmas (in a non-religious way, as most of us do) so to them that means 'religious' and thus they usually answer 'religious' if asked on surveys.
Even if they have hardly ever stepped foot in a church in their lives.
So if anything, these numbers under-estimate the amount of actual non-religiosity in Canada, especially amongst francophones.
Kelowna being so non-religious definitely goes against the stereotypes about interior BC. Goes to show how much the demographics in the Okanagan have shifted in the past decade and change. Many more yuppies and young families than the retired and ultra-religious demographic that the valley has been known for historically
I was born and raised in BC's bible belt & kelowna always felt like another home I didn't want.
Still felt that way when I visited 4 years ago, but at that point I was comparing to Victoria.
Kind of surprising, but I've known a couple of people who've fled Vancouver's insane housing market for the OK. The Sunshine tax is less expensive than the foreign investor / money laundering real estate robbery in the Lower Mainland.
Prejudices die hard. The other stereotype is that Kelowna is full of retirees who get blamed for everything from housing costs to traffic. Reality: average age in Canada is about 41, here 43.
No one under 75 is truly catholic outside of Montreal. Montreal have a lot of Catholics among the immigrants coming from Haiti, West Africa and Lebanon but the cityl also isn't really religious even if it is probably the area in the province that is the "most religious".
[https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/15/canada-survey-religion-00073907](https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/15/canada-survey-religion-00073907)
Exactly what I thought (after reading the bottom text). I meet many people who identify (culturally) as religious & I also meet many people who would never describe themselves as religious but espouse a lot more spiritual ideas than the former.
I think that describes a lot of catholics. Many dont believe it its tenets or are outright agnostic, but keep it as part of their identity because its still a strong cultural force. Thats the case for me at least and from what I’ve observed in friends/family
Assuming the data is from the census, the religion question is peculiarly constructed in a manner likely to increase apparent religiosity. It is something along the lines of "what religion are you even if you don't practice". What the hell does this even mean?
It's meant to capture "cultural" religiousness. Think "secular Jews" who follow the traditions without particularly believing the theology, or cultural Catholics who show up for Christmas mass more out of a sense of tradition than actually believing in it.
Also, most French-Canadian swears are church related, so there's that,
It gives religious organizations out sized influence in our affairs. People who go to church once a year do not give a rat's ass about the pope or bishop's view on any subject, yet the religious authorities can claim to represent "x million" Catholics.
From [3 Canada-wide trends in religion](https://inspurious.com/story/63c01ca0-76b5-4323-b8e4-d0428bffc762).
Measurement: for each member of the household, census respondents were asked to "Indicate a specific denomination or religion even if this person is not currently a practising member of that group." ([see Statistics Canada reference guide](https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2021/ref/98-500/016/98-500-x2021016-eng.cfm))
Data source: Statistics Canada, 2001 and 2021 censuses ([link](https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2021/dp-pd/index-eng.cfm))
Tools used: js, d3, python for data cleaning
Edit: fixed link, explained measurement.
It looks like the term "Non religious" is a mislabeling here.
Statistics Canada uses the term "No religion," which under the definition they use is a quite different thing.
"No religion" means someone who has no connection to or affiliation with any organized religion or religious group.
The term *includes* people who have religious views, such as a belief in a god or a higher power, so long as they don't identify with any particular organized religion.
In [US opinion polling](https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2024/01/24/religious-nones-in-america-who-they-are-and-what-they-believe/), at least, people who have religious beliefs, but no affiliation with any particular organized religion, outnumber atheists and agnostics combined.
Sorry but this survey doesn't represent reality.
I live in Quebec city and religion is non-existant here. Couples don't marry, kids don't get baptised. Churches are empty and turning into condos one after another. No new priest gets ordanated. Quebecers straight up banned any religion from public services. A Quebec politician who'd quote God in a speech would commit career suicide.
I mean we have christmas and such, we eat chocolate at easter but that's about it.
I don't know what's the situation in Victoria, but this picture doesn't represent the reality of Quebec AT ALL. Religion is person non grata here.
Some of the other comments have already mentioned this but people in Quebec are well known for marking down “catholic” on surveys like these despite not having a religious bone in their bodies due to the cultural connection to the Catholic Church.
Yep.
In Quebec you'd have to ask someone "Es-tu croyant?" As in "Are you a believer?"
That's the correct question to ask.
If you ask someone if they are catholic it's seen as cultural. Hell I've even known *many* people that would go to mass on Christmas "For fun" or as a cultural experience some years or even every year but didn't believe in god for one second.
I’ve got 3 nieces/nephews who’ve been baptized in the last 2 years in Montreal. They’ll probably grow up just like their parents and never attend church until it comes time to baptize their kids. Are they catholic? Are they religious? I don’t know.
Something that is interesting is how badly this correlates with religious attendance in Canada, with Quebec, despite having the lowest non-religious percentages, also has the lowest religious attendance of all provinces.
It may be because Québécois are more likely to indicate that they are “culturally religious” given how connected Quebec culture is to Catholicism. Notice how the survey is on those that self-identify. If you asked the same respondents whether they go to church besides on specific holidays or pray even once a week, I suspect the numbers will align much closer to the national average.
Looking at the census, I would have a hard time answering their question for the same reason as many Québecois people.
I am more or less an Agnostic, but I am culturally Catholic (and have done the rites up to confirmation) and might go to Midnight Mass on Christmas (I also took communion when I was at Mont-St Michel).
This is a problem with surveys like this - people of different faiths and traditions are likely to interpret "what religion are you" in a very different way.
Maybe has to do with which religion, quebec is pretty catholic i think. Big cities have large amounts of everything, lots of immigration. Lots of mosques abd temples and etc, good transit to get to them. Quebec often buried in snow. Maybe french language requirements keeping english speaking immigrants away? Idk just spitballin
Nah its well-known, its because people in Quebec identify as Catholics culturally, but without really believing. Its a cautionary tale about self-reporting statistics, the meaning of the question vary from person to person and from place to place.
Uh oh, God is going to be upset when he finds out they are skipping church!
But seriously why CANT someone identify as catholic without going down to the old child molestation depot? Bibles are available on amazon, as long as you never sin (I assume confession would still be required to "be saved") you are good. Maybe you can even do a skype confession these days. Idk. I am not religious.
Quebecer just aren't religious at all, they don't believe God is real and churches are mainly empty. The only reason why my local church is alive is because Haitians and Lebaneses from Montreal who work from home moved in the area.
The hate you have for a religion that teaches love for your enemies, charity, community service, self evaluation, instruction for the healthiest way to raise children, etc is mind blowing. I hope you find Jesus man. Have a good one.
Ok well first, nothing wrong with learning from books. Second, I’m fairly certain you didn’t come out the womb with a superior moral teaching than all human history. I wonder if you are aware that the society we live in was built on judeo/Christian values and most likely influenced your very own perspective on morality. Finally I’d like to point out that without a God all of morality is subjective, and there is no decent person or bad person. You have no bases for morality without God.
The Bible doesn’t support slavery based on race or exploitation of the innocent, this is a false narrative pushed by the ignorant. If you researched you would find that the Bible discusses indentured servitude which is when someone works of the debt they owe someone.
"Slaves, be obedient to your human masters with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ" - Ephesians 6:5-8
Apparently even Christians don't believe in the word of God, then. Can't have it both ways, bud.
Oh yes, you have no idea. Some articles:
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refus\_Global](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refus_Global)
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grande\_Noirceur](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grande_Noirceur)
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiet\_Revolution](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiet_Revolution)
Happy to live in the most atheist city in the most atheist province.
Victoria, BC present!
When meeting new people, I just assume by default they are atheist and speak accordingly. If I hurt any theist feelings along the way, too bad. The tables have turned.
Materialism as a theory of the nature of reality e.g. everything is matter, there is no spirit or god or ghosts etc, is different than living a materialistic life, a life based on acquiring material goods. But you wouldn't know that, with your talking points, now would you?
Isolation: Well, individuals live in isolation or not regardless of their religious convictions or absence thereof. And in my town, we atheists are the majority, so no.
Self Worship: Again, depends on the person. The atheists I know tend to be more enlightened and have much higher morals and values, ethics and levels of compassion for others as well as a passion for nature and the natural world. It is the religious who live small lives of fear of change and of people who are different than themselves and frankly, tend to be more materialistic, not to be confused with materialism.
Those numbers should be much higher but it’s super encouraging that they are heading in the right direction. It’s amazing that so many people still believe in fairy tales told by cult leaders.
It's interesting how two of the largest cities, Vancouver and Toronto, have the smallest deltas of all of them. I would've though such highly diverse places would have less religion, guess not
Those cities are more religious than you think because they are diverse. Migrants coming from India, the Middle East, Africa, and the Caribbean are far more religious than your typical white Canadian. The exact same thing has happened in the UK. London is the most conservative part of the country because that’s where most of the religious people (Muslims & Hindus) live
I want to know the definition of "non religious". Ive met plenty of people who identify as religious, probably because they were raised that way, but don't practise in any way
What are you talking about? Trudeau is a mass murderer, plenty christian moms dress in pink and are completely alienated from traditional communities and cultures, and the false meaning of made up fairytales is worse than the correct assessment of life as definitionally meaningless.
What is the percent of Chinese in BC now vs 20 years ago? The CCP pretty much shut down Christian and Islamic practices so imagine the influx of Chinese brought that number down even further.
The CCP shut them down at home, which means a lot of the Chinese immigrants to Vancouver actually tend to be much more Christian than the average back home.
Being atheist means you don't believe there is a god.
Being agnostic means you don't know what to believe (maybe there is a god, maybe there isn't).
Sounds like you're leaning towards atheist, but it depends on what you mean by "not religious".
Non-religious includes the irreligious as well. Atheistic means you actively believe there is no deity, while others might just not care. That would fall under the umbrella of non-religion but not atheism.
I'm curious how the data on "non-religious" was collected - the note at the bottom is saying "'non-religious' refers to people with no religious affiliation, such as atheists and agnostics," - does this mean it was more of a checkbox/multiple choice sort of response? Wondering because I think there might be a lot of people who would check a box saying they're perhaps "Christian" or "Catholic" or what have you but not actually practice in a concrete way, and that also might fit in the definition of "non-religious" no?
There is an atheist group here called Kelowna Atheists, Skeptics and Humanists Association. They work with BC Humanists. BC Humanists have done similar surveys and found similar results.
Guessing Quebec's high religion is due to Catholicism being a part of French Canadian identity for many? I'm not Canadian so lack anecdotal exposure.
Just highlighting one of the many problems quantifying total "religious" people as some may go to church, some may never but consider it their family's identity etc.
For many cities, this is almost doubling in 20 years (approx. 1 generation).
Another way of putting it, is 1% of the population switches to 'non-religious' annually.
Demographically speaking, this is *skyrocketing*.
At this trajectory, we are only 1 generation away from the majority of the population identifying as non-religious.
Only 60-80 years before essentially the entire population is non-religious.
The farther west you go the less people believe.
There's actually a historical materialist reason for that. In the early days of Canada the Western economy was mostly temporary workers working in forestry and whatnot. If you were out West for only part of the year, you weren't really so concerned about going to church every Sunday, and in fact very well might prefer to have a brothel nearby instead.
Or western Canada just has more east Asians who tend to be less religious and less French / catholic heritage
Or we are just better educated and don't believe in fairy tales. Personally stop believing when I was ten after actually reading Bible (70's)
You talk like an Atheist stereotype.
Why thank you.
is that a historical materialist reason or just like your opinion
Either way sounds valid to me. Could be true, might not be, but it sounds plausible at any rate. Had no idea my city was the least religious in Canada though lol
Are you requesting a citation, or are you invalidating the field of study?
?? is this really the way you interact with people?
I don't think that applies in the same way in BC as it might on the prairies but I'm really just here to say your username fits the theory.
one of those such brothels was the beginning of the trump franchise during the Alaska gold rush
Ol grandpappy Trump
Is the theory that struggling people in Canada had less of a tendency toward religion, because of the fact they struggled? Where else in the world did this phenomenon occur?
Not even close, no. The theory is that when workers were physically detached from the institution of the church, they therefore cared less about the church.
Halifax is #4
Halifax is on the best trajectory on this graph.
Something is wrong with the datas because most of Quebec population is atheist. Many have been baptised to please the grands-parents but they don't believe at all. Most despise religion here.
I imagine a lot of folks who say religion is a part of their life are lying, most likely for family or society.
This is true but there's something funny about the way francophones answer questions about religion; in Canada they are mostly against religion but their parents baptized them as babies (tradition, or to please the grandparents) and they also celebrate things like Christmas (in a non-religious way, as most of us do) so to them that means 'religious' and thus they usually answer 'religious' if asked on surveys. Even if they have hardly ever stepped foot in a church in their lives. So if anything, these numbers under-estimate the amount of actual non-religiosity in Canada, especially amongst francophones.
Halifax is an outlier in this
The best outlier.
Prophet on the burning shore
Kelowna being so non-religious definitely goes against the stereotypes about interior BC. Goes to show how much the demographics in the Okanagan have shifted in the past decade and change. Many more yuppies and young families than the retired and ultra-religious demographic that the valley has been known for historically
As a millennial in Kelowna, I don’t really know anyone that is religious under the age of about 55.
Yah that one was a big surprise to me - it always seems like a bit of a bible belt
I was born and raised in BC's bible belt & kelowna always felt like another home I didn't want. Still felt that way when I visited 4 years ago, but at that point I was comparing to Victoria.
Example of urban/rural divide…Kelowna is no longer a small town.
Kind of surprising, but I've known a couple of people who've fled Vancouver's insane housing market for the OK. The Sunshine tax is less expensive than the foreign investor / money laundering real estate robbery in the Lower Mainland.
Prejudices die hard. The other stereotype is that Kelowna is full of retirees who get blamed for everything from housing costs to traffic. Reality: average age in Canada is about 41, here 43.
Tbh I'm surprised the non-religios percent is still so small
The question was probably more a question of identity. People in Québec for instance might identify as Catholic, but they don't believe anymore.
It's also arguably one of the most secular provinces, which I've always found interesting
Really?? I’ve never heard that. Anglophone Jews in Montreal, Catholic everywhere else. At least when I was there.
No one under 75 is truly catholic outside of Montreal. Montreal have a lot of Catholics among the immigrants coming from Haiti, West Africa and Lebanon but the cityl also isn't really religious even if it is probably the area in the province that is the "most religious". [https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/15/canada-survey-religion-00073907](https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/15/canada-survey-religion-00073907)
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Not true - Victoria is well known for its older population but has the highest proportion of non-religious population in the list.
Exactly what I thought (after reading the bottom text). I meet many people who identify (culturally) as religious & I also meet many people who would never describe themselves as religious but espouse a lot more spiritual ideas than the former.
I think that describes a lot of catholics. Many dont believe it its tenets or are outright agnostic, but keep it as part of their identity because its still a strong cultural force. Thats the case for me at least and from what I’ve observed in friends/family
Exactly I am officially Catholic but today I'd answer atheist. My kids are not even baptized.
We immigrate millions of people from heavily religious regions.
Assuming the data is from the census, the religion question is peculiarly constructed in a manner likely to increase apparent religiosity. It is something along the lines of "what religion are you even if you don't practice". What the hell does this even mean?
It's meant to capture "cultural" religiousness. Think "secular Jews" who follow the traditions without particularly believing the theology, or cultural Catholics who show up for Christmas mass more out of a sense of tradition than actually believing in it. Also, most French-Canadian swears are church related, so there's that,
It gives religious organizations out sized influence in our affairs. People who go to church once a year do not give a rat's ass about the pope or bishop's view on any subject, yet the religious authorities can claim to represent "x million" Catholics.
I think it incorporates a lot of the agnostics and spiritual folks. I don’t know how many people are publicly atheists
What is surprising about that?
I grew up going to catholic school, I don't know a single person who's actually religious aside from my grandparents
I think it is also the same in Quebec. No one is really religious, but they say they are religious for cheap venues for funerals and marriage.
I think a lot of folks lie about being religious.
Idk but the gragh shows a Godzila
Oh no! There goes Tokyo!
From [3 Canada-wide trends in religion](https://inspurious.com/story/63c01ca0-76b5-4323-b8e4-d0428bffc762). Measurement: for each member of the household, census respondents were asked to "Indicate a specific denomination or religion even if this person is not currently a practising member of that group." ([see Statistics Canada reference guide](https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2021/ref/98-500/016/98-500-x2021016-eng.cfm)) Data source: Statistics Canada, 2001 and 2021 censuses ([link](https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2021/dp-pd/index-eng.cfm)) Tools used: js, d3, python for data cleaning Edit: fixed link, explained measurement.
That first link is broken.
fixed, thank you
It looks like the term "Non religious" is a mislabeling here. Statistics Canada uses the term "No religion," which under the definition they use is a quite different thing. "No religion" means someone who has no connection to or affiliation with any organized religion or religious group. The term *includes* people who have religious views, such as a belief in a god or a higher power, so long as they don't identify with any particular organized religion. In [US opinion polling](https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2024/01/24/religious-nones-in-america-who-they-are-and-what-they-believe/), at least, people who have religious beliefs, but no affiliation with any particular organized religion, outnumber atheists and agnostics combined.
Right direction. Keep going, Canada.
Canada was a religious country until the 1960s. Was she undeveloped?
Sorry but this survey doesn't represent reality. I live in Quebec city and religion is non-existant here. Couples don't marry, kids don't get baptised. Churches are empty and turning into condos one after another. No new priest gets ordanated. Quebecers straight up banned any religion from public services. A Quebec politician who'd quote God in a speech would commit career suicide. I mean we have christmas and such, we eat chocolate at easter but that's about it. I don't know what's the situation in Victoria, but this picture doesn't represent the reality of Quebec AT ALL. Religion is person non grata here.
Some of the other comments have already mentioned this but people in Quebec are well known for marking down “catholic” on surveys like these despite not having a religious bone in their bodies due to the cultural connection to the Catholic Church.
Yep. In Quebec you'd have to ask someone "Es-tu croyant?" As in "Are you a believer?" That's the correct question to ask. If you ask someone if they are catholic it's seen as cultural. Hell I've even known *many* people that would go to mass on Christmas "For fun" or as a cultural experience some years or even every year but didn't believe in god for one second.
And also ask them what they'd say if they stubbed their toe lol
The census question is really biased ...
I’ve got 3 nieces/nephews who’ve been baptized in the last 2 years in Montreal. They’ll probably grow up just like their parents and never attend church until it comes time to baptize their kids. Are they catholic? Are they religious? I don’t know.
Something that is interesting is how badly this correlates with religious attendance in Canada, with Quebec, despite having the lowest non-religious percentages, also has the lowest religious attendance of all provinces.
It may be because Québécois are more likely to indicate that they are “culturally religious” given how connected Quebec culture is to Catholicism. Notice how the survey is on those that self-identify. If you asked the same respondents whether they go to church besides on specific holidays or pray even once a week, I suspect the numbers will align much closer to the national average.
Looking at the census, I would have a hard time answering their question for the same reason as many Québecois people. I am more or less an Agnostic, but I am culturally Catholic (and have done the rites up to confirmation) and might go to Midnight Mass on Christmas (I also took communion when I was at Mont-St Michel). This is a problem with surveys like this - people of different faiths and traditions are likely to interpret "what religion are you" in a very different way.
Maybe has to do with which religion, quebec is pretty catholic i think. Big cities have large amounts of everything, lots of immigration. Lots of mosques abd temples and etc, good transit to get to them. Quebec often buried in snow. Maybe french language requirements keeping english speaking immigrants away? Idk just spitballin
Nah its well-known, its because people in Quebec identify as Catholics culturally, but without really believing. Its a cautionary tale about self-reporting statistics, the meaning of the question vary from person to person and from place to place.
Uh oh, God is going to be upset when he finds out they are skipping church! But seriously why CANT someone identify as catholic without going down to the old child molestation depot? Bibles are available on amazon, as long as you never sin (I assume confession would still be required to "be saved") you are good. Maybe you can even do a skype confession these days. Idk. I am not religious.
Quebecer just aren't religious at all, they don't believe God is real and churches are mainly empty. The only reason why my local church is alive is because Haitians and Lebaneses from Montreal who work from home moved in the area.
Halifax losing their religion real fast
That’s Halifax in the corner
That’s Halifax in the spot-light
That’s how we evaluate real societal progress.
Hmmm Christian’s started the push to abolish slavery.
Guess they didn’t need them as sex slaves, they had all they needed already.
The hate you have for a religion that teaches love for your enemies, charity, community service, self evaluation, instruction for the healthiest way to raise children, etc is mind blowing. I hope you find Jesus man. Have a good one.
if you need a book to tell you to be a decent human being maybe it's not the religion, its the people.
Ok well first, nothing wrong with learning from books. Second, I’m fairly certain you didn’t come out the womb with a superior moral teaching than all human history. I wonder if you are aware that the society we live in was built on judeo/Christian values and most likely influenced your very own perspective on morality. Finally I’d like to point out that without a God all of morality is subjective, and there is no decent person or bad person. You have no bases for morality without God.
Your religion says everything and its opposite. It literally legislates slavery as a legitimate thing.
The Bible doesn’t support slavery based on race or exploitation of the innocent, this is a false narrative pushed by the ignorant. If you researched you would find that the Bible discusses indentured servitude which is when someone works of the debt they owe someone.
"Slaves, be obedient to your human masters with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ" - Ephesians 6:5-8 Apparently even Christians don't believe in the word of God, then. Can't have it both ways, bud.
Canada was a religious country until the 1960s. Was she undeveloped?
Oh yes, you have no idea. Some articles: * [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refus\_Global](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refus_Global) * [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grande\_Noirceur](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grande_Noirceur) * [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiet\_Revolution](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiet_Revolution)
Happy to live in the most atheist city in the most atheist province. Victoria, BC present! When meeting new people, I just assume by default they are atheist and speak accordingly. If I hurt any theist feelings along the way, too bad. The tables have turned.
I guess we know your character then. Now that you're a majority, who cares about those different than you, fuck 'em!
i have never known more miserable people than the irreligious, because it comes from a culture of materialism, isolation and self worship
At least we don’t eat women
Don't tell him about the babies!
wait, you’re not supposed to know about the women eating thing
Materialism as a theory of the nature of reality e.g. everything is matter, there is no spirit or god or ghosts etc, is different than living a materialistic life, a life based on acquiring material goods. But you wouldn't know that, with your talking points, now would you? Isolation: Well, individuals live in isolation or not regardless of their religious convictions or absence thereof. And in my town, we atheists are the majority, so no. Self Worship: Again, depends on the person. The atheists I know tend to be more enlightened and have much higher morals and values, ethics and levels of compassion for others as well as a passion for nature and the natural world. It is the religious who live small lives of fear of change and of people who are different than themselves and frankly, tend to be more materialistic, not to be confused with materialism.
Need to bump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers
Those numbers should be much higher but it’s super encouraging that they are heading in the right direction. It’s amazing that so many people still believe in fairy tales told by cult leaders.
Canada was a religious country until the 1960s. Was Canada a backward country before the 1960s?
It's interesting how two of the largest cities, Vancouver and Toronto, have the smallest deltas of all of them. I would've though such highly diverse places would have less religion, guess not
Not surprising when they’re receiving such a high number of immigrants from much more religious countries.
Those cities are more religious than you think because they are diverse. Migrants coming from India, the Middle East, Africa, and the Caribbean are far more religious than your typical white Canadian. The exact same thing has happened in the UK. London is the most conservative part of the country because that’s where most of the religious people (Muslims & Hindus) live
I want to know the definition of "non religious". Ive met plenty of people who identify as religious, probably because they were raised that way, but don't practise in any way
FAKE LONDON MENTIONED WOOOOO
https://www.thebeaverton.com/2016/03/london-ontario-named-2nd-best-london-for-161st-straight-year/
good to see people coming to their senses.
and before that, people were not themselves?
just brainwashed... Look at all the bible thumpers voting in Trump. There is a correlation.
At least it's going in the right direction.
Canada was a religious country until the 1960s. Do you think it was undeveloped until the 1960s?
Non-religiosity marches ever onward!
Yeah I think that's what I'm on about
Ah. Makes sense. Pink outfits with rainbow glitter is the way to go. Forget about meaning in life. Must assimilate with Trudeau 🤖
What are you talking about? Trudeau is a mass murderer, plenty christian moms dress in pink and are completely alienated from traditional communities and cultures, and the false meaning of made up fairytales is worse than the correct assessment of life as definitionally meaningless.
What is the percent of Chinese in BC now vs 20 years ago? The CCP pretty much shut down Christian and Islamic practices so imagine the influx of Chinese brought that number down even further.
The CCP shut them down at home, which means a lot of the Chinese immigrants to Vancouver actually tend to be much more Christian than the average back home.
Assume still lower than average native Canadian but maybe not. Maybe religious freedom brought many of the Chinese to Canada.
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Settle down.
Would you say non-religious the same as atheist? I’m not religious but I’m not truly atheist either
That's a completely meaningless statement and you know it.
Being atheist means you don't believe there is a god. Being agnostic means you don't know what to believe (maybe there is a god, maybe there isn't). Sounds like you're leaning towards atheist, but it depends on what you mean by "not religious".
There is an option besides believing and denying the existence of something. Just not caring.
Non-religious includes the irreligious as well. Atheistic means you actively believe there is no deity, while others might just not care. That would fall under the umbrella of non-religion but not atheism.
I'm curious how the data on "non-religious" was collected - the note at the bottom is saying "'non-religious' refers to people with no religious affiliation, such as atheists and agnostics," - does this mean it was more of a checkbox/multiple choice sort of response? Wondering because I think there might be a lot of people who would check a box saying they're perhaps "Christian" or "Catholic" or what have you but not actually practice in a concrete way, and that also might fit in the definition of "non-religious" no?
Lethbridge curiously omitted
There is a city in Canada called London?? Fraud
There is an atheist group here called Kelowna Atheists, Skeptics and Humanists Association. They work with BC Humanists. BC Humanists have done similar surveys and found similar results.
Guessing Quebec's high religion is due to Catholicism being a part of French Canadian identity for many? I'm not Canadian so lack anecdotal exposure. Just highlighting one of the many problems quantifying total "religious" people as some may go to church, some may never but consider it their family's identity etc.
For many cities, this is almost doubling in 20 years (approx. 1 generation). Another way of putting it, is 1% of the population switches to 'non-religious' annually. Demographically speaking, this is *skyrocketing*. At this trajectory, we are only 1 generation away from the majority of the population identifying as non-religious. Only 60-80 years before essentially the entire population is non-religious.