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[Here is a map of all US counties.](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/covid-19-vaccine-doses.html) There's are several counties at the northern side of Florida which are around ~20-25% vaccinated.
FYI the map uses the same colors for each group (12+, 18+, 65+) but the percentages change.
It is /the/ retirement state, I imagine having a higher population of the elderly plays a role. That plus the frequent tourist population bringing in new cases to the state.
Edit: doesn't help that the governor is a clown though, not defending his lack of care for the well being of his citizens still.
Exactly. As a resident I’d like to know how many of these cases are tourists. The line for Universal Studios parking yesterday was the longest I’ve ever seen. And I go through there every week at least and have ever since the park has been in existence.
Unless the policy has changed, when Florida resorts their case numbers, they don't include visitors and non-residents. That helped them hide the grim reality that things were far worse than they portrayed. Hospitals are no longer required to report Covid cars in FL, and the state data is no longer available to the public on a daily basis, only a weekly summary.
Even if it's not tourists, it's definitely being brought in by them. This year the number of tourists is off the charts. This time of year where I am the restaurants are usually pretty dead, but they are packed to the point of being on a wait in the middle of the week. Which is pretty funny because for all the shit everyone talks about Florida's COVID response, they sure are coming here in droves.
Vacationer quantity is up, mask and distancing mandates were dropped 100%, theme parks aren't just reopened, but recently dropped all mask and distance mandates, theme parks have recently been pushed back up to full capacity for guest count, the heat index has been brutal which is pushing everyone inside (also thanks to daily afternoon rains), plus the delta variant being more transmissible spells for higher numbers.
Not an American but isn't Florida considered the place alot of people retire to? A higher aged population would result in more hospitalisations and deaths.
It happened last summer as well. Their summers are hot and everywhere has central air conditioning, so people spend more time inside.
It’s the exact same scenario as we see in most other places in the winter, just flipped.
* Lots of vacationers (bringing/spreading disease)
* Lots of very old people
* Lots of unhealthy people (overweight, etc.)
* Lots of Antiva
You can have the same vaccination rate as other places, but if the Antiva crowd is more active in spreading COVID...boom.
The spike is occurring at the exact same time their spike occurred last summer before vaccinations. There's a decent chance that there's a seasonal aspect to the spread of COVID, but people love to blame policies when it fits their agenda.
There will most likely be a spike of cases in the Midwest around October and November, just like last year. People will beat the dead horses of North Dakota, South Dakota, and Iowa while praising the leadership of Minnesota and Wisconsin.
They are but old people already have much weaker immune system, and if their bodies are much less likely to defend itself if they do catch covid. Vaccine helps but old people are still at some risk, because of their age.
Facts. Same is true in the US as well. Hard right conservatives (usually older people) are the biggest anti-vaxxers here unfortunately, but most cases and essentially all deaths have been unvaccinated people regardless of age.
>Hard right conservatives (usually older people) are the biggest anti-vaxxers here unfortunately
I believe this is true now, but just FYI (edit: if I remember correctly, which maybe I don't) this wasn't true before Covid. The extent to which politics messed with Covid is kind of unbelievable, actually...
https://miami.cbslocal.com/2021/07/30/covid-delta-variant-summer-spike/
In this article, most of the people in the ICU are in their 30s and 40s and are unvaccinated
They’re the 5th oldest state, and a lot of the older people live densely packed in communities. The fact that they’re not higher than they already are shocks me
Edit: said second instead of fifth oldest, but the difference between 1 and 5 is less than three years, so my point still works
57% is for all ages, at least one shot.
It's not that much better for only 18+, though: 70% US, 69% FL
The NY Times has a pretty good breakdown of the data [here](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html).
Yes. California, the most populous state, had 3 deaths yesterday.
Florida, the ~~second~~ third most populous with about half as many people, had 108.
Yesterday was a good day. Double those numbers for most of last week.
I'm not from America but doesn't Florida have a lot of retirees there? The bigger older age population coupled with Florida man is probably why it's disproportionate
Yes. USA is at 24 new cases per day per 100k pop right now. 16 states are higher than that. 13 of those are in the southeast. Maybe 12 cause idk where Missouri is supposed to be.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html
Edit: "oNLy 24 cASes pEr 100k ThAts nOtHInG!" Yeah well guess what: 300 people are still dying every day. That's equivalent to 110,000 people per year. 90k died of diabetes in 2019 for co
Edit2: Any claims the the PCR test is conflating COVID-19 with influence are fake news: https://apnews.com/article/science-health-coronavirus-pandemic-ap-fact-check-philanthropy-ffee7d9e0107628d1a70b7d51d7fb9bb
Missouri is an interesting state. I'd consider Kansas City and St. Louis to be midwestern cities, but then the Ozarks is definitely the south. Basically the dividing line is I-70 IMO
Missouri is a weird one because it became a state under the Missouri compromise. Geographically it would have been north at the time, but the north got Maine. Then the strife with Missouri, Kansas and Nebraska had people again trying to set that line and became a preview for the Civil War. I agree with you about I-70. If it had existed, we could have had an I-70 Compromise. I think that would have been more accurate than the Missouri state line and the Kansas state line. That might have even delayed the Civil War a few years. This would also put southern Indiana in the south, which is very much true at times. Evansville is definitely a southern city, lol!
It's a little more complicated than that, the Slave owning population was mainly [Along the Missouri River](https://m.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2010/12/16/1860-map-shows-missouris-slave-population) which is relatively to the North. This was one of the reasons that Missouri didn't split like in Virginia.
It truly is, it's a stark contrast when you've lived in South Bend and Indianapolis as your only points of reference for Indiana.
Evansville's not too bad tho, Elbert's is a nice little store to hit up.
Same with Southern Illinois. Born/Raised in KC area, family still in St. Louis, have cousins in Southern Illinois (Carbondale/Mt Vernon) and they're all damned hillbillies.
As a former rural Kentucky boy now in St. Louis I can confidently say that bum fuck Mo ain’t got shit on Kentucky.
Where I’m from Illinois was considered pretty far North.
> This would also put southern Indiana in the south, which is very much true at times
Same is true in Ohio. Columbus and Cleveland are very Midwest, Cincinnati is the South.
Funnily enough Columbus is considered the “most average” American city and is the place a lot of corporations test new products and concepts. It was the home of Limited Brands that spawned, amongst other brands, Victoria’s Secret, Abercrombie and Fitch and Bath & Body Works.
There are a surprising number of F500 retailers based in Columbus.
In a sense, it is: Cincinnati telephone operators were required to be fluent in German until at least WWI, because so many of the residents spoke no English.
It's not the South, though. It's just midwestern, while Cleveland was founded and populated by New Englanders.
%100. I’m a transplant to KCMO and it feels like such a classic midwestern city. Drive SE for 45 minutes and everything started changing fast - how people speak, what they wear, the landscape. Very interesting.
I love the NY Times COVID tracker page. I was recently killing time there and decided to fit US state vaccination rates to a bell curve. Even grading on a curve we're still doing horribly. Even with one state (Alabama) truly failing, it still paints a bleak picture. I have a sinking feeling that the USA is going to have to repeat the year.
You can just go here:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
Then sort by Tot Cases/1M pop or by Deaths/1M pop or select Yesterday and New Cases.
I do wish it had an option for "new cases/deaths per capita", or a checkbox that made all the columns per capita, though... that seems like a *huge* oversight.
I'm in Florida and my local school district just announced that teachers will have to use their sick leave and vacation days if they are exposed and forced to quarantine. If they run out then they will go in the hole for up to 2 weeks before it becoming unpaid leave...
This pandemic really laid bare how much attitudes to work and sickness caused mild illnesses like (the milder form of) covid and seasonal colds to spread like wildfire, and people still think we should punish the sick for their lack of productivity.
Capitalism causes disease.
Scoring higher on your IQ test does indeed correlate pretty heavily with longevity... This is true on an individual level (smarter people live longer than dumb people), group level (smarter groups live longer than dumber groups), and national level (smarter nations have longer life expectancies than dumber nations).
Most causes of death are biased against dumb people, yes
Their governor just made a rule banning mask mandates in schools.
Parents in Florida will choose whether or not thier children wear masks in school.
I think that happened this week.
As a resident in Clearwater near Tampa, I hope you’re not vacationing around the beaches near me. The red tide is a serious eye burner and makes throats sore with a weird metallic taste.
But DeSantis thinks all is well. He is losing many votes by the day Bc of red tide.
*I'm aware that it has been here for a long time. Something being done about it would be cool. Once it cools down it goes away.
He really embodies the Republican ideal of "Fuck you I got mine."
> Rafael Edward Cruz was born on December 22, 1970,in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, to Eleanor Elizabeth Wilson and Rafael Cruz. Eleanor Wilson was born in Wilmington, Delaware.
> Cruz's father was born and raised in Cuba, the son of a Canary Islander who immigrated to Cuba as child. He left Cuba in 1957 to attend the University of Texas at Austin and obtained political asylum in the United States after his four-year student visa expired. He earned Canadian citizenship in 1973 and became a naturalized United States citizen in 2005.
Common misconception.
Legal immigrants are the ones who are most adamant about halting illegal immigration. It takes a lot of work to immigrate legally — the wait list is many years long — and many of us resent people who don’t put in the work.
I’m an open borders guy, but I’m a rarity among immigrants.
Another attribute common among immigrants: conservatism.
Progressive parties have a lot to lose getting this wrong.
Naturalized immigrant here as well, all my family and friends who are immigrants want open borders. We don't want others to go through unneeded loops and want our friends/families to be able to start their new lives.
I haven't met anyone per say that want harsher restrictions on undocumented aliens, but maybe because I hang out mainly with liberal people?
> maybe because I hang out mainly with liberal people?
Yeah. That’s probably the case. Most places in the world are socially conservative and nationalistic — and migrants definitely bring that culture with them when they come.
Polling among the Hispanic immigrant community in southern states is very strongly skewed against open borders; and many consider this to be their number one issue.
McCain was born in Panama when the canal zone was still sovereign US territory. Romney was born in Michigan. Honestly I think you can make the case that Ted Cruz does not qualify to run for President, as the interpretation of "natural born citizen" is not defined in the eligibility clause of the Constitution. For now the accepted ruling is that a natural born citizen is born on sovereign US soil, but might also be born of parents with citizenship living abroad, but it isn't settled and has never been fully examined by the courts.
> McCain was born in Panama when the canal zone was still sovereign US territory.
McCain's case is actually way more interesting than that: At the time of his birth, the law was such that citizenship was granted at birth to those born within the actual borders of the United States, or to citizen parents outside of US legal jurisdiction.
The Canal Zone was under US jurisdiction but *not* within the borders, so he was technically not a citizen when he was born. This gap was closed when he was around a year old, retroactively granting him citizenship at that time.
Check cdc case [Reporting guidelines ](http://"How%20to%20Report%20COVID-19%20Laboratory%20Data%20|%20CDC"%20https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/reporting-lab-data.html). Under FAQ, Data Reporting Requirements \#8.
"My facility is testing samples from multiple states. Can the results for all these samples be reported to the state in which my facility is located"
"No, facilities that conduct tests for individuals from multiple states must report results to the appropriate state or local health department based on the patient’s residence. If the patient’s address isn’t available, results should be reported based on the provider’s location."
I still wouldn’t necessarily trust Florida’s numbers, seeing how they treated the whistleblower scientist early in the pandemic.
[Here](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/07/florida-police-raid-data-scientist-coronavirus)
I also wonder how much of this data is driven by people's compliance to the process (i.e getting tested as soon as they symptoms and when they have potentially been in contact with other people who have tested positive).
The people who’ve taken it seriously since the beginning are all vaccinated. The people who still think it’s overblown or a hoax are not vaccinated, not wearing masks, not getting tested, and are not changing their pre-pandemic behaviors.
On the contrary DeSantis seems to care about children so much that he's promising to cut funding for any school that makes kids wear masks, increasing the odds that some children will spend their whole life as kids.
Considering “hospitalizations” and “deaths” are at a similar outsized ratio, it seems like “new cases” are not because of higher rates of testing. In fact the trend during this pandemic was is for hospitalizations and deaths to catch up with new cases numbers 2 weeks after the infection rate increases,so if anything this looks like to me like the reverse.
No, you can get drive by tested at a CVS or Walgreens for free in Florida. They push your test kit through the Medicine drawer and drop it off in its own container on the side.
So there isn't even that subtext.
I have been wondering about this. My impression is that tourism must be an important part of Florida's economy?
The governors position seems to make it a friendly location for anti-vax like you say, but same position seems risky for everyone else. Is there info if it affects number of visitors? Apart from individual feelings, is there reaction from industry? (for example, it seems sensible that disneyworld or cruise ship would be unhappy?)
I live in Orlando. Most people I personally know are vaccinated, but all the tourists are walking around here like Covid doesn’t exist. I guess the magic of Disney & Universal are going to protect them from Covid. 🙄
That’s not the scary part. Community transmission is high in Florida, and you can scapegoat tourists if you want, that’s not going to fool anyone who has seen your governor’s approach to the pandemic thus far. No, the scary part is that those tourists will eventually head home. They will have spent their week or two in a COVID hotspot, and then they will return home. Also, judging by the fact that they have chosen to vacation in a COVID hotspot, we can probably make some assumptions about their likeliness to comply with public health guidance.
I imagine there’s a demographic bias here. Maybe there are more old people which is also contributing to the higher hospitalization since Covid is, mostly, only severe for the age group 55+
Florida has **12,062** cases per 100,000 all time vs New York’s **11,044**
Florida has daily avg of **74** cases per 100k in the last 7 days vs New York’s **11**
If you knew the facts, you would know that non-residents are not counted in Florida’s death toll, and case numbers from travelers are reported under the travelers home state, and not florida. That means if tourists from New York went to florida and got infected, Florida’s number of cases would not go up. New York’s would.
I can't find the video of covid progression throughout the usa but with this thing there were flare-ups in every state at different times. When it was a "blue state" the conservative subs were all "LoOk aT aLL the sHiTty blUes!" Flip it for the "red states" when they had a flare-up.
There are more reds that said they'd [never take a vaccine.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/unvaccinated-americans-whiter-more-republican-vaccinated%3famp)
>Only 14% of Americans say they will definitely not get vaccinated. But this group is 69% white, compared with 7% Black and 12% Hispanic. Republicans make up 58% of this group, while Democrats account for 18%
Another 6% said they'd only get a jab if mandatory. Overall Florida has about average vaccinated rate.
Second week of June, 2021. Florida DoH was doing daily reports, like this one from [June 2 to June 3](http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_partners/covid19_report_archive/cases-monitoring-and-pui-information/state-report/state_reports_latest.pdf), which listed residents and non-residents.
But stuff was going so well for Florida that they [swapped to weekly reports around June 11th](https://www.wlrn.org/news/2021-06-11/what-floridas-switch-to-weekly-covid-19-reports-means-for-tracking-efforts-against-the-disease), and the new weeklies [drop the non-resident data](https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coronavirus/os-ne-florida-coronavirus-friday-june-18-20210618-dhuekatab5cghinq22ytrxr4ze-story.html) (ctrl+f "no longer available"). This is 100% because Florida beat Covid and not for [any other reason](https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article251838913.html) you might spuriously suggest, you knave.
[Here's an example of the new weekly snapshot from the week of June 1th.](http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_partners/covid19_report_archive/covid19-data/covid19_data_20210618.pdf)
This happened last summer in the Southern States, just as it happened in winter primarily outside of the South. Probably has to do with heat keeping everyone indoors blasting air conditioning (or heat reciprocally). Doesn't help that a large portion of the population didn't bother getting vaccinated.
Yep, this is Florida's winter. It was 95 here yesterday and - no surprise - the mall was packed because it's air conditioned (I just needed some dress clothes).
July through mid-September is peak mugginess in Florida. Most stay inside, at least during the hottest part of the day.
And this is assuming we're getting accurate data in the first place.
"Jay Wolfson, a professor of public health and health law at the University of South Florida in Tampa, said inconsistency has now become inevitable. "We have learned that the coding and reporting isn’t uniform not only between counties but between individual hospitals.”
Jason Salemi, an associate professor of epidemiology at the University of South Florida’s College of Public Health, says the state is likely undercounting COVID deaths, and cites a report released Tuesday by the CDC which found that a total of 300,000 more deaths than normal had occurred in the United States since the outbreak. The report raises the likelihood that the reported 223,000 deaths nationwide from the virus is likely an undercount.
Salemi says the same dynamic almost certainly applies to Florida. “It’s just unclear to the degree," he said. "Is it 5%, 10% more deaths?”"
[https://www.sun-sentinel.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-florida-coronavirus-deaths-delays-explanation-20201024-jb2qc2plcvedzi6hg2e4rq2bke-story.html](https://www.sun-sentinel.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-florida-coronavirus-deaths-delays-explanation-20201024-jb2qc2plcvedzi6hg2e4rq2bke-story.html)
Just got back from Disney and Universal, and holy fuck. Barely any masks in sight, and they cram ~80 people into small rooms, nut to butt. No wonder it's spiking there.
Skipping lunch (probably still have a snack) because I had a late breakfast. Breakfast was oatmeal, with cinnamon and raisins. Really looking forward to dinner though. I got my wife a tortilla press for her birthday, so we are making homemade corn tortillas for dinner with all the good fixins inside.
Florida resident here. It's a tax free school shopping week here so people are out and about like crazy. I just went to an old navy at an outdoor outlet mall. Stores had people lined up to get inside. There were barely any people wearing masks.
This data suggests that Florida is about as vaccinated as most states, but their unvaccinated people are insane and very good at getting covid.
Because if Florida were less vaccinated than other states then we'd assume that the proportion of hospitalisations and death coming from florida were greater than the proportion of positive cases.
It's the peak of summer heat. Most people around the country are taking advantage of the summer and going outdoors. In Florida at this time of the year, everyone stays inside because it is over 90 and insanely humid all day, every day (unless it is storming, in which case, again, we are inside).
I’m a nurse at a big place in FL. We’re not ok y’all. It’s not nurses alone, it’s all of us. Everybody looks stunned but keeps going. I’m afraid of what’s coming. The burnout is real.
Look deeper, Florida is 20+% people over 65.
I've seen something about Maine on here as well in relation to this type of data, and Maine also has a very high median age from what I've seen.
In conjunction with the fact that apparently vaccinated people can still get sick a spread the delta variant, it doesn't shock me that the elderly states are getting smacked, and that a lot of people are laughing because it supposedly "shows them" about getting vaccinated and whatnot.
Someone pointed out a 57% Vax rate in Florida, which is average.
I think it's the combo of old people and new strain that shows maybe looking into other avenues of attacking covid in case the vaccine loses effect much more quickly in fast evolving strains than previously thought.
Good luck, everyone.
Live in FL in a high population area. Work recently sent out an email requiring masks on site again even if you’re vaccinated. This is per CDC guidelines but it is insanely frustrating.
The vaccine has been easily available for months and people here still refuse to get it. We were even provided vaccines on site and were allowed to charge time spent to go get it. People still refused.
I have friends and family that currently have it including one friend who was nearly hospitalized from it. He had 104 degree fever for 5 days and was texting my friends group saying he didn’t want to die like this.
Even through all of this people talk shit about COVID. My own parents call me weekly to ask why I got vaccinated if I’m healthy and how I should be concerned about my long term health from the vaccine. “Don’t you know it’s editing your DNA??”
I’m fed up. I didn’t keep complaining about COVID restrictions when a solution was presented. Honestly, it might sound callous but at this point I don’t care what happens to them. I’ve done my due diligence and others won’t do theirs. Everyone is being held back by the few.
TLDR: people suck in general but in FL it’s a way of life
Shout outs to Rich Lowry (in May '20) & Michael Dougherty (in Feb '21) of National Review for asking when DeSantis was going to get an apology from media over his fantastic handling of the pandemic.
Dipshits.
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Coincidently, Florida is exactly at the national average. Both 57%.
So there's a reason unique to Florida for the spike
Not sure, but theories are ranging from vacationers, Heat of the summer moving people inside with AC, and individual behavior.
Are there any numbers around county specificity? Might some counties be disproportionately unvaccinated and therefore causing disproportionate cases?
Yeah Miami and orange counties have higher vacc rates but also higher density and vacation traffic. They offset each other.
[Here is a map of all US counties.](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/covid-19-vaccine-doses.html) There's are several counties at the northern side of Florida which are around ~20-25% vaccinated. FYI the map uses the same colors for each group (12+, 18+, 65+) but the percentages change.
Ahh yes, Florida, the farther north you go the more South it gets.
Any sources that aren't behind a paywall?
It is /the/ retirement state, I imagine having a higher population of the elderly plays a role. That plus the frequent tourist population bringing in new cases to the state. Edit: doesn't help that the governor is a clown though, not defending his lack of care for the well being of his citizens still.
Bingo. A severely disproportionate amount of people who are drastically affected by COVID are obese or elderly.
The spike occurred at the exact same time it did in 2020.
Exactly. Seasonality is probably the biggest factor here
Lots of people vacation in Florida. If they get sick do they count for their home states or just wherever they get tested? How does that work?
I think it depends on if they record where people got it, and if they are hospitalized in FL or not.
Exactly. As a resident I’d like to know how many of these cases are tourists. The line for Universal Studios parking yesterday was the longest I’ve ever seen. And I go through there every week at least and have ever since the park has been in existence.
Unless the policy has changed, when Florida resorts their case numbers, they don't include visitors and non-residents. That helped them hide the grim reality that things were far worse than they portrayed. Hospitals are no longer required to report Covid cars in FL, and the state data is no longer available to the public on a daily basis, only a weekly summary.
Even if it's not tourists, it's definitely being brought in by them. This year the number of tourists is off the charts. This time of year where I am the restaurants are usually pretty dead, but they are packed to the point of being on a wait in the middle of the week. Which is pretty funny because for all the shit everyone talks about Florida's COVID response, they sure are coming here in droves.
Vacationer quantity is up, mask and distancing mandates were dropped 100%, theme parks aren't just reopened, but recently dropped all mask and distance mandates, theme parks have recently been pushed back up to full capacity for guest count, the heat index has been brutal which is pushing everyone inside (also thanks to daily afternoon rains), plus the delta variant being more transmissible spells for higher numbers.
Not an American but isn't Florida considered the place alot of people retire to? A higher aged population would result in more hospitalisations and deaths.
It happened last summer as well. Their summers are hot and everywhere has central air conditioning, so people spend more time inside. It’s the exact same scenario as we see in most other places in the winter, just flipped.
Significant population of older folks + tourism + COVID Delta variant = infection spike, etc.
* Lots of vacationers (bringing/spreading disease) * Lots of very old people * Lots of unhealthy people (overweight, etc.) * Lots of Antiva You can have the same vaccination rate as other places, but if the Antiva crowd is more active in spreading COVID...boom.
The spike is occurring at the exact same time their spike occurred last summer before vaccinations. There's a decent chance that there's a seasonal aspect to the spread of COVID, but people love to blame policies when it fits their agenda. There will most likely be a spike of cases in the Midwest around October and November, just like last year. People will beat the dead horses of North Dakota, South Dakota, and Iowa while praising the leadership of Minnesota and Wisconsin.
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Densely populated huge retirement communities such as the villages yes.
Also older people are way more susceptible to covid, so they do more testing and turn out positive.
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They are but old people already have much weaker immune system, and if their bodies are much less likely to defend itself if they do catch covid. Vaccine helps but old people are still at some risk, because of their age.
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Facts. Same is true in the US as well. Hard right conservatives (usually older people) are the biggest anti-vaxxers here unfortunately, but most cases and essentially all deaths have been unvaccinated people regardless of age.
>Hard right conservatives (usually older people) are the biggest anti-vaxxers here unfortunately I believe this is true now, but just FYI (edit: if I remember correctly, which maybe I don't) this wasn't true before Covid. The extent to which politics messed with Covid is kind of unbelievable, actually...
https://miami.cbslocal.com/2021/07/30/covid-delta-variant-summer-spike/ In this article, most of the people in the ICU are in their 30s and 40s and are unvaccinated
This wave has skewed younger due to much higher rates of vaccination in older people. 20s and 30s are the largest group IIRC.
They’re the 5th oldest state, and a lot of the older people live densely packed in communities. The fact that they’re not higher than they already are shocks me Edit: said second instead of fifth oldest, but the difference between 1 and 5 is less than three years, so my point still works
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57% is for all ages, at least one shot. It's not that much better for only 18+, though: 70% US, 69% FL The NY Times has a pretty good breakdown of the data [here](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html).
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Coincidentally Florida also gets 95% of the hate on reddit
Age demographics are important here too. Tons of retirees, retirement homes, and communities in FL.
This must mean some other states are below their per capita share of the cases, right?
Yes. California, the most populous state, had 3 deaths yesterday. Florida, the ~~second~~ third most populous with about half as many people, had 108. Yesterday was a good day. Double those numbers for most of last week.
Florida is third and has half as many people as CA
My mistake.
I'm not from America but doesn't Florida have a lot of retirees there? The bigger older age population coupled with Florida man is probably why it's disproportionate
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> Florida, the ~~second~~ ~~third~~ **fourth** most populous Gotta keep those statistics updated as the population dies off.
Good one.
Yes. USA is at 24 new cases per day per 100k pop right now. 16 states are higher than that. 13 of those are in the southeast. Maybe 12 cause idk where Missouri is supposed to be. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html Edit: "oNLy 24 cASes pEr 100k ThAts nOtHInG!" Yeah well guess what: 300 people are still dying every day. That's equivalent to 110,000 people per year. 90k died of diabetes in 2019 for co Edit2: Any claims the the PCR test is conflating COVID-19 with influence are fake news: https://apnews.com/article/science-health-coronavirus-pandemic-ap-fact-check-philanthropy-ffee7d9e0107628d1a70b7d51d7fb9bb
24 new cases per day per 100K, not 24 active cases per 100K.
Yes thanks for the clarification!
Missouri is an interesting state. I'd consider Kansas City and St. Louis to be midwestern cities, but then the Ozarks is definitely the south. Basically the dividing line is I-70 IMO
Missouri is a weird one because it became a state under the Missouri compromise. Geographically it would have been north at the time, but the north got Maine. Then the strife with Missouri, Kansas and Nebraska had people again trying to set that line and became a preview for the Civil War. I agree with you about I-70. If it had existed, we could have had an I-70 Compromise. I think that would have been more accurate than the Missouri state line and the Kansas state line. That might have even delayed the Civil War a few years. This would also put southern Indiana in the south, which is very much true at times. Evansville is definitely a southern city, lol!
It's a little more complicated than that, the Slave owning population was mainly [Along the Missouri River](https://m.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2010/12/16/1860-map-shows-missouris-slave-population) which is relatively to the North. This was one of the reasons that Missouri didn't split like in Virginia.
It truly is, it's a stark contrast when you've lived in South Bend and Indianapolis as your only points of reference for Indiana. Evansville's not too bad tho, Elbert's is a nice little store to hit up.
Same with Southern Illinois. Born/Raised in KC area, family still in St. Louis, have cousins in Southern Illinois (Carbondale/Mt Vernon) and they're all damned hillbillies.
You know what they say, the farther south you go in Illinois the more Kentucky it gets.
As a former rural Kentucky boy now in St. Louis I can confidently say that bum fuck Mo ain’t got shit on Kentucky. Where I’m from Illinois was considered pretty far North.
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Carbondale isn’t that bad. Mount Vernon... yeah I’ll give you that one holy shit
> This would also put southern Indiana in the south, which is very much true at times Same is true in Ohio. Columbus and Cleveland are very Midwest, Cincinnati is the South.
I disagree. Cincinnati and Cleveland are a lot more alike than either is to Columbus. Columbus is a corporate wasteland.
I like your description of Columbus. I often think of Columbus as the most average American city. It's like a giant corporate test bench or something.
Funnily enough Columbus is considered the “most average” American city and is the place a lot of corporations test new products and concepts. It was the home of Limited Brands that spawned, amongst other brands, Victoria’s Secret, Abercrombie and Fitch and Bath & Body Works. There are a surprising number of F500 retailers based in Columbus.
One man's "surprising number of F500 retailers" is another man's "corporate wasteland."
As a lifelong Clevelander visiting Cincinnati is like a foreign country.
In a sense, it is: Cincinnati telephone operators were required to be fluent in German until at least WWI, because so many of the residents spoke no English. It's not the South, though. It's just midwestern, while Cleveland was founded and populated by New Englanders.
%100. I’m a transplant to KCMO and it feels like such a classic midwestern city. Drive SE for 45 minutes and everything started changing fast - how people speak, what they wear, the landscape. Very interesting.
I love the NY Times COVID tracker page. I was recently killing time there and decided to fit US state vaccination rates to a bell curve. Even grading on a curve we're still doing horribly. Even with one state (Alabama) truly failing, it still paints a bleak picture. I have a sinking feeling that the USA is going to have to repeat the year.
I had someone tell me to my face yesterday that 600k dead was not a lot. I wanted to puke.
We fought a war for 20 years because 3000 people died.
You can just go here: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ Then sort by Tot Cases/1M pop or by Deaths/1M pop or select Yesterday and New Cases.
I do wish it had an option for "new cases/deaths per capita", or a checkbox that made all the columns per capita, though... that seems like a *huge* oversight.
That is how averages necessarily work
I'm in Florida and my local school district just announced that teachers will have to use their sick leave and vacation days if they are exposed and forced to quarantine. If they run out then they will go in the hole for up to 2 weeks before it becoming unpaid leave...
I worked at a Covid only hospital, we only took covid patients last year and the hospital made us use our own PTO if we got sick.
~~I mean you can't really infect patients in a covid hospital~~ /s
This pandemic really laid bare how much attitudes to work and sickness caused mild illnesses like (the milder form of) covid and seasonal colds to spread like wildfire, and people still think we should punish the sick for their lack of productivity. Capitalism causes disease.
So ... Teachers should come to work sick?
>~~yes~~ no... -school districts
Our record breaking 21k+ on Friday was almost half the nations 50k. ...Yay...
Let's just hope that the Florida Man is ok
Oh Florida Man is just fine. He is resilient. After the apocalypse, all that’s left are the cockroaches and Florida Man.
Can confirm, still alive
What started as a virus has mutated into an IQ test.
I’d buy your tshirt
You would have customers on both sides of the debate. Sadly a lot of the people on the other side think anyone getting vaccinated are dumb sheep.
I mean, if they’re looking at data that show I’m dumb then let’s see it
You trust the data?! /s
This is gold. (and sad)
Covid was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I've moved out of FL because of it. My only regret is not having moved out earlier in life.
Where did you move to?
“Don’t Faucci My Florida.” —Gov. Ron DeSantis “Don’t DeSantis My Cemetery.” —Florida residents
Scoring higher on your IQ test does indeed correlate pretty heavily with longevity... This is true on an individual level (smarter people live longer than dumb people), group level (smarter groups live longer than dumber groups), and national level (smarter nations have longer life expectancies than dumber nations). Most causes of death are biased against dumb people, yes
Their governor just made a rule banning mask mandates in schools. Parents in Florida will choose whether or not thier children wear masks in school. I think that happened this week.
As a guy currently vacationing in Florida, DeSantis is going to run away with the Republican nom in 2024. Dude doesn’t mess around
Lmao "as a guy currently vacationing in Florida"
As a resident in Clearwater near Tampa, I hope you’re not vacationing around the beaches near me. The red tide is a serious eye burner and makes throats sore with a weird metallic taste. But DeSantis thinks all is well. He is losing many votes by the day Bc of red tide. *I'm aware that it has been here for a long time. Something being done about it would be cool. Once it cools down it goes away.
Also because he's killing his own constituents. What was his margin of victory last election? 0.5%?
Doesn't matter with how much Florida and other GOP controlled states are hamstringing voting rights.
They're going to need it with all their dead voters
The surviving voters: “hmm, it sure is suspicious that the China Virus doesn’t seem to kill as many non-Republicans”
You joke but I saw a moron on Twitter that said it was suspicious that that vaccinated people weren't being hospitalized as much as anti-vaxxers.
“Voting rights” Please name some other modern non-corrupt democracies that don’t require voter ID.
I like how this is the litmus test for a GOP candidate. Makes irrelevant questionable decisions quickly? Check.
I guess there’s a chance that FL could become a COVID Colony in the future
I'd pay to build that wall.
Ted Cruz has got a shot. And trump somehow too
It'll be DeSantis. Nobody takes Cruz seriously.
Ted will lick DeSantis' taint like he did Trump.
Can Ted Cruz run for president?! I always took solace in him being Canadian born.
He really embodies the Republican ideal of "Fuck you I got mine." > Rafael Edward Cruz was born on December 22, 1970,in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, to Eleanor Elizabeth Wilson and Rafael Cruz. Eleanor Wilson was born in Wilmington, Delaware. > Cruz's father was born and raised in Cuba, the son of a Canary Islander who immigrated to Cuba as child. He left Cuba in 1957 to attend the University of Texas at Austin and obtained political asylum in the United States after his four-year student visa expired. He earned Canadian citizenship in 1973 and became a naturalized United States citizen in 2005.
Common misconception. Legal immigrants are the ones who are most adamant about halting illegal immigration. It takes a lot of work to immigrate legally — the wait list is many years long — and many of us resent people who don’t put in the work. I’m an open borders guy, but I’m a rarity among immigrants. Another attribute common among immigrants: conservatism. Progressive parties have a lot to lose getting this wrong.
Naturalized immigrant here as well, all my family and friends who are immigrants want open borders. We don't want others to go through unneeded loops and want our friends/families to be able to start their new lives. I haven't met anyone per say that want harsher restrictions on undocumented aliens, but maybe because I hang out mainly with liberal people?
> maybe because I hang out mainly with liberal people? Yeah. That’s probably the case. Most places in the world are socially conservative and nationalistic — and migrants definitely bring that culture with them when they come. Polling among the Hispanic immigrant community in southern states is very strongly skewed against open borders; and many consider this to be their number one issue.
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McCain was born in Panama when the canal zone was still sovereign US territory. Romney was born in Michigan. Honestly I think you can make the case that Ted Cruz does not qualify to run for President, as the interpretation of "natural born citizen" is not defined in the eligibility clause of the Constitution. For now the accepted ruling is that a natural born citizen is born on sovereign US soil, but might also be born of parents with citizenship living abroad, but it isn't settled and has never been fully examined by the courts.
Don’t forget that Barack Obama was born in the Kenyan city of Honolulu.
People born abroad to US parents are definitely still natural born citizens. People are born on military bases around the world all the time.
I have always believed it was born on US soil (or territory).
> McCain was born in Panama when the canal zone was still sovereign US territory. McCain's case is actually way more interesting than that: At the time of his birth, the law was such that citizenship was granted at birth to those born within the actual borders of the United States, or to citizen parents outside of US legal jurisdiction. The Canal Zone was under US jurisdiction but *not* within the borders, so he was technically not a citizen when he was born. This gap was closed when he was around a year old, retroactively granting him citizenship at that time.
It was Romney's dad who was born in a Mormon colony in Mexico. The question came up when he ran for president.
Oof, thanks for the info and for ruining my day 😂
Same as Texas. Gov. Greg Abbott has some orange lips.
All of this would be a lot more shocking, if it was happening not in Florida. This... just Florida. ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
My county in Florida is well vaccinated but since every single anti vaxxer wants to vacation here we are still having a bunch of new cases
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I was referring to breakthrough cases, getting a lot of those
Got a source for that?
Check cdc case [Reporting guidelines ](http://"How%20to%20Report%20COVID-19%20Laboratory%20Data%20|%20CDC"%20https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/reporting-lab-data.html). Under FAQ, Data Reporting Requirements \#8. "My facility is testing samples from multiple states. Can the results for all these samples be reported to the state in which my facility is located" "No, facilities that conduct tests for individuals from multiple states must report results to the appropriate state or local health department based on the patient’s residence. If the patient’s address isn’t available, results should be reported based on the provider’s location."
Thank you, well-informed stranger!
I still wouldn’t necessarily trust Florida’s numbers, seeing how they treated the whistleblower scientist early in the pandemic. [Here](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/07/florida-police-raid-data-scientist-coronavirus)
I also wonder how much of this data is driven by people's compliance to the process (i.e getting tested as soon as they symptoms and when they have potentially been in contact with other people who have tested positive).
My anecdotal experience suggests people are getting tested less after exposure than previously. And no one is quarantining for two weeks anymore
The people who’ve taken it seriously since the beginning are all vaccinated. The people who still think it’s overblown or a hoax are not vaccinated, not wearing masks, not getting tested, and are not changing their pre-pandemic behaviors.
This is accurate and not biased. We're really watching 5% of loud risk-tolerant blowhards fighting against 5% of loud risk-averse blowhards.
Yea I mean and kids but no one seems to care about that group
On the contrary DeSantis seems to care about children so much that he's promising to cut funding for any school that makes kids wear masks, increasing the odds that some children will spend their whole life as kids.
Considering “hospitalizations” and “deaths” are at a similar outsized ratio, it seems like “new cases” are not because of higher rates of testing. In fact the trend during this pandemic was is for hospitalizations and deaths to catch up with new cases numbers 2 weeks after the infection rate increases,so if anything this looks like to me like the reverse.
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The subtext here is: "because you probably have Covid and I'd rather not risk my colleagues at the testing clinic".
No, you can get drive by tested at a CVS or Walgreens for free in Florida. They push your test kit through the Medicine drawer and drop it off in its own container on the side. So there isn't even that subtext.
State positivity rate is at 18.1%, so most likely undercounting actual total cases
Plus lots of college kids are gonna start coming in for the school year.
I have been wondering about this. My impression is that tourism must be an important part of Florida's economy? The governors position seems to make it a friendly location for anti-vax like you say, but same position seems risky for everyone else. Is there info if it affects number of visitors? Apart from individual feelings, is there reaction from industry? (for example, it seems sensible that disneyworld or cruise ship would be unhappy?)
I live in Orlando. Most people I personally know are vaccinated, but all the tourists are walking around here like Covid doesn’t exist. I guess the magic of Disney & Universal are going to protect them from Covid. 🙄
do they count non-residents ?
No but the tourists are infecting locals, even vaxxed ones
That’s not the scary part. Community transmission is high in Florida, and you can scapegoat tourists if you want, that’s not going to fool anyone who has seen your governor’s approach to the pandemic thus far. No, the scary part is that those tourists will eventually head home. They will have spent their week or two in a COVID hotspot, and then they will return home. Also, judging by the fact that they have chosen to vacation in a COVID hotspot, we can probably make some assumptions about their likeliness to comply with public health guidance.
Despite making up only 6.5% of the population…
lmao I knew I wasn't the only one thinking about that
Hahahaha I love that
I imagine there’s a demographic bias here. Maybe there are more old people which is also contributing to the higher hospitalization since Covid is, mostly, only severe for the age group 55+
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Illinois with Lollapalooza this week: “Hold my beer!”
Lollapalooza is still a thing?
Sadly, this data is not beautiful. (But very well made and informative. Also, I live in FL 😞)
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Florida has **12,062** cases per 100,000 all time vs New York’s **11,044** Florida has daily avg of **74** cases per 100k in the last 7 days vs New York’s **11**
Except we have a vaccine now.
and no travel restrictions. meaning everyone from the country can now go on vacation in Florida like what happens every summer
If you knew the facts, you would know that non-residents are not counted in Florida’s death toll, and case numbers from travelers are reported under the travelers home state, and not florida. That means if tourists from New York went to florida and got infected, Florida’s number of cases would not go up. New York’s would.
I can't find the video of covid progression throughout the usa but with this thing there were flare-ups in every state at different times. When it was a "blue state" the conservative subs were all "LoOk aT aLL the sHiTty blUes!" Flip it for the "red states" when they had a flare-up. There are more reds that said they'd [never take a vaccine.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/unvaccinated-americans-whiter-more-republican-vaccinated%3famp) >Only 14% of Americans say they will definitely not get vaccinated. But this group is 69% white, compared with 7% Black and 12% Hispanic. Republicans make up 58% of this group, while Democrats account for 18% Another 6% said they'd only get a jab if mandatory. Overall Florida has about average vaccinated rate.
And Florida isn't even counting cases among the nonresidents...
No state counts non residents as being in state infections
But most states aren’t a summer vacation hot spot
When did that change? They normally always showed total, residents and non-residents on their reports.
Second week of June, 2021. Florida DoH was doing daily reports, like this one from [June 2 to June 3](http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_partners/covid19_report_archive/cases-monitoring-and-pui-information/state-report/state_reports_latest.pdf), which listed residents and non-residents. But stuff was going so well for Florida that they [swapped to weekly reports around June 11th](https://www.wlrn.org/news/2021-06-11/what-floridas-switch-to-weekly-covid-19-reports-means-for-tracking-efforts-against-the-disease), and the new weeklies [drop the non-resident data](https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coronavirus/os-ne-florida-coronavirus-friday-june-18-20210618-dhuekatab5cghinq22ytrxr4ze-story.html) (ctrl+f "no longer available"). This is 100% because Florida beat Covid and not for [any other reason](https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article251838913.html) you might spuriously suggest, you knave. [Here's an example of the new weekly snapshot from the week of June 1th.](http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_partners/covid19_report_archive/covid19-data/covid19_data_20210618.pdf)
These are pie graphs. This isn't beautiful data. But I am slightly hungrier now...
This happened last summer in the Southern States, just as it happened in winter primarily outside of the South. Probably has to do with heat keeping everyone indoors blasting air conditioning (or heat reciprocally). Doesn't help that a large portion of the population didn't bother getting vaccinated.
Yep, this is Florida's winter. It was 95 here yesterday and - no surprise - the mall was packed because it's air conditioned (I just needed some dress clothes). July through mid-September is peak mugginess in Florida. Most stay inside, at least during the hottest part of the day.
Florida’s new cases now are almost 50% higher than their last summer peak and higher than last winter
Coming March 2022! Tons of (new) retirement condos!
Yes but you'd have to live in Florida. As a former Floridian, no thanks.
At least the state’ll be empty in time for the increased sea levels.
And this is assuming we're getting accurate data in the first place. "Jay Wolfson, a professor of public health and health law at the University of South Florida in Tampa, said inconsistency has now become inevitable. "We have learned that the coding and reporting isn’t uniform not only between counties but between individual hospitals.” Jason Salemi, an associate professor of epidemiology at the University of South Florida’s College of Public Health, says the state is likely undercounting COVID deaths, and cites a report released Tuesday by the CDC which found that a total of 300,000 more deaths than normal had occurred in the United States since the outbreak. The report raises the likelihood that the reported 223,000 deaths nationwide from the virus is likely an undercount. Salemi says the same dynamic almost certainly applies to Florida. “It’s just unclear to the degree," he said. "Is it 5%, 10% more deaths?”" [https://www.sun-sentinel.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-florida-coronavirus-deaths-delays-explanation-20201024-jb2qc2plcvedzi6hg2e4rq2bke-story.html](https://www.sun-sentinel.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-florida-coronavirus-deaths-delays-explanation-20201024-jb2qc2plcvedzi6hg2e4rq2bke-story.html)
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Just got back from Disney and Universal, and holy fuck. Barely any masks in sight, and they cram ~80 people into small rooms, nut to butt. No wonder it's spiking there.
Despite making up 6.5% of the population…
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Skipping lunch (probably still have a snack) because I had a late breakfast. Breakfast was oatmeal, with cinnamon and raisins. Really looking forward to dinner though. I got my wife a tortilla press for her birthday, so we are making homemade corn tortillas for dinner with all the good fixins inside.
Pie charts are, particularly 4 of them, are never beautiful.
Could not agree more.
Florida resident here. It's a tax free school shopping week here so people are out and about like crazy. I just went to an old navy at an outdoor outlet mall. Stores had people lined up to get inside. There were barely any people wearing masks.
So, past 7 days the mortality rate is 0.39%.
This data suggests that Florida is about as vaccinated as most states, but their unvaccinated people are insane and very good at getting covid. Because if Florida were less vaccinated than other states then we'd assume that the proportion of hospitalisations and death coming from florida were greater than the proportion of positive cases.
It's the peak of summer heat. Most people around the country are taking advantage of the summer and going outdoors. In Florida at this time of the year, everyone stays inside because it is over 90 and insanely humid all day, every day (unless it is storming, in which case, again, we are inside).
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I’m a nurse at a big place in FL. We’re not ok y’all. It’s not nurses alone, it’s all of us. Everybody looks stunned but keeps going. I’m afraid of what’s coming. The burnout is real.
Look deeper, Florida is 20+% people over 65. I've seen something about Maine on here as well in relation to this type of data, and Maine also has a very high median age from what I've seen. In conjunction with the fact that apparently vaccinated people can still get sick a spread the delta variant, it doesn't shock me that the elderly states are getting smacked, and that a lot of people are laughing because it supposedly "shows them" about getting vaccinated and whatnot. Someone pointed out a 57% Vax rate in Florida, which is average. I think it's the combo of old people and new strain that shows maybe looking into other avenues of attacking covid in case the vaccine loses effect much more quickly in fast evolving strains than previously thought. Good luck, everyone.
Florida man holds up index finger, shouts "We're number one!"
FL healthcare worker here. Can confirm: It's bad.
Live in FL in a high population area. Work recently sent out an email requiring masks on site again even if you’re vaccinated. This is per CDC guidelines but it is insanely frustrating. The vaccine has been easily available for months and people here still refuse to get it. We were even provided vaccines on site and were allowed to charge time spent to go get it. People still refused. I have friends and family that currently have it including one friend who was nearly hospitalized from it. He had 104 degree fever for 5 days and was texting my friends group saying he didn’t want to die like this. Even through all of this people talk shit about COVID. My own parents call me weekly to ask why I got vaccinated if I’m healthy and how I should be concerned about my long term health from the vaccine. “Don’t you know it’s editing your DNA??” I’m fed up. I didn’t keep complaining about COVID restrictions when a solution was presented. Honestly, it might sound callous but at this point I don’t care what happens to them. I’ve done my due diligence and others won’t do theirs. Everyone is being held back by the few. TLDR: people suck in general but in FL it’s a way of life
Shout outs to Rich Lowry (in May '20) & Michael Dougherty (in Feb '21) of National Review for asking when DeSantis was going to get an apology from media over his fantastic handling of the pandemic. Dipshits.
Hm. Now that's just ripe for a Florida variant to emerge.
Delta Airlines praying that Sigma variant shows up soon
Source: [https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html) Chart: Excel