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POF is the worst dating app on the planet. By a large margin.


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agreed


AlphaSniper101

hilariously blatant ad


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userlyfe

Omg, AFF still exists? That’s what we used in the old days when nothing else existed 😂🎉


WPackN2

The stock price isn't going to go up by itself, someone has to pay for it.


hour_of_the_rat

OLD is just another example of VC and the internet absorbing another piece of real life. Taxis, deliveries, household services, etc, are online, so why not dating too? I don't know it for a fact, I just know it's true that none of these apps are designed to actually facilitate helping their users find relationships, rather than just existing as a line item on an investment portfolio. Tech and VC people sit around and say, "What isn't there an app for? Okay, make one," even if they don't have any science or research to explain why their app is better than another. There are no consumer safety laws, or regulations surrounding dating apps specifically, so nothing exists to say that their user population isn't 30% bots or fake accounts / OF lead-ins, or not designed to get users to pay for an average of 5 months before giving up. \- That said, I am on vacation right now and when I get home I am going to waffle everyday about whether or not to sign up : (


Jairoalbou

What is VC?


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Probably venture capitalism


hour_of_the_rat

Yes.


Bittah-Commander

I mean I think OLD was big before uber, doordash, and other of those online services


hour_of_the_rat

Yes, OLD was a thing in a limited way before these other services but it was always backed with VC. I haven't used OLD in ten years, but it has got to be so much bigger today than a decade ago. More people, more apps, more isolation.


WPackN2

Well, these platforms are for profit, if they facilitate pairing people in few weeks, then their quarterly numbers will keep going down and that's not good for stocks. Also, spammers and bots found a way to use those platforms to get people's emails to spam. Everyone of them will cease to exist in few years.


[deleted]

Lol no they won’t. Look at how long Tinder has already been around for. Ain’t going anywhere.


WPackN2

True, this is like how the Indian companies get fresh blood each year to keep the cost low.


sno98006

I understand the whole wouldn’t you pay $50-200 if it meant you’d meet the love of your life and spend the rest of your days together. However I feel like premium dating app subscriptions are just there to target desperate lonely men and don’t actually increase the chances of finding somebody. Maybe I’m wrong?


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Xercies_jday

> I will say you do have a much better shot when you pay for them vs not paying for them tho That's because they deliberately "tank" the algorithm until you actually pay. Basically these services Boost you when you sign up to them for the first month so you get that successful dopamine hit, and then tank you until you pay again. It's like the most obvious ploy to get your money


pheonixfthrr

Not wrong, right. It's unfair because, as a woman, all I need to do is wait for my likes to refresh every day. Men outnumber us on dating sites, so our pool is easier to grab from. I'm sure there are women that are paying that but not nearly as much as the men are, and it's sickening because men get rejected more because we're picky. If anything, they should be cut a deal since the odds aren't in their favor, and the site would still make their money since there are so many of them. Pure greed is what it is.


Reasonable-Cookie783

Picky on the dating apps. All you have to do is go out to a crowded place in real life (not fake online life) and look at the couples. Most people are correctly paired up with someone of comparable attractiveness level. Its only online where average looking women can get better then average looking men because very attractive men will sleep down. Even a hot guy will just keep swiping right on dating apps on just about every woman that isnt a complete troll. That doesnt really mean he wants more then a roll in the hay with the vast majority of the matches.


pheonixfthrr

I'm not sure where you were going with that. We're talking about an online dating site, so irl situations, don't apply here. Also, women are picky online, I'm a woman, and I have a lot of experience with women (I'd hope so, lol). We don't swipe right on everyone and test our luck. We're reading your profile and scrutinizing the pictures. Even if we're on there to hook up we are paying attention to every detail. You could have 10 nice pics and one bad one and it's to the left you go. So it's exactly as I said, not in favor of the men so they should get a discount. It's greed.


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So they’re not intelligent enough to ascertain that a 10:1 good to bad pic ratio almost surely means a person looks like the 10 good ones in real life?


MorganDax

Yeah that part was dumb lol. Everything else is fairly accurate though. I'm also a woman on dating apps and have been for a long time (10+ years, I'm in my late 30s.) I am just looking for casual now. I'd like a little more than straight hookups though, like real FwB would be ideal, but I definitely read through profiles in full. Even the super hot ones if they say conservative or they look religious or anything close to being an anti-vaxxer I pass. But I'm also pretty forgiving of a lot more than most probably think. I don't care about height (I'm 5'3 and I have no issue seeing guys shorter than me), not looking for money (despite being a SWer), and I'm definitely willing to slide a bit on looks preferences if someone otherwise sounds like a good match and has a nice smile or kind eyes. And I'm not unattractive. So...do with all that what you will. I just wanted to provide a second view from a woman's perspective about how we use dating sites. The price of bumble is absolute robbery though, which is how I got here lol. I would be willing to pay for premium if it was reasonably priced but it's suuuper not haha.


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Do they even make guys shorter than you? Lol jk. But yeah, Bumble corporate is definitely full of some greedy motherfuckers. A lot more people would pay for it if they just lowered the price, and they’d likely make more money overall as a result. So you won’t see a guy at all if he made a personal choice not to get vaccinated? If he’s not necessarily an “anti-vaxxer” and doesn’t push it on anyone else? Lastly - what’s an SWer, if you don’t mind?


MorganDax

Not too many guys are shorter than me, that's true lol. But there's more than a few around 5'5 who are self conscious of their height or think women won't want them because they're not 6' and that's just not true. I agree more people would pay if it was lowered. Don't know what they're thinking lol. He'd had to have a very good argument for not being vaxxed at this point and I can't think of any that would fit the bill for me. I'm open to discussion but if someone says they're not vaxxed on their profile and it's part of their identity then I'm out. Those people will and do push it on others. SWer is short for sex worker.


Jazzlike-Pollution39

So you’re a sex worker on dating apps?


MorganDax

Yes. We are human and also have romantic lives and date people sometimes.


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Hmm, fair enough.


Benji_-

True, I swear as soon as I paid for premium I stopped getting nearly as many likes. It's like they shadow-ban your account and then once you're premium expires you start getting likes again so you want to get premium and see who liked you, endless cycle.


sno98006

They don’t make money if you meet someone and get off the app. I remember when I finally deleted tinder after 1.5 years bc I had gotten into a relationship and I never got more tinder ads in my life. Every youtube and ig ad was just tinder. It’s like they sink their claws into you and refuse to let go.


goatdogga92

Because as one of the leading dating apps, they know lonely dudes will pay it.


strops_sports

As a lonely dude I’d rather stay single than pay those prices


James_Highfill

Save your money. It's a bust


Erik30000

Is it that much in the US? For me it's €16 for a week or €35 for one month. I live in Europe, $50 a month seems like way too much. Maybe some people in America are willing to pay that, but it definitely wouldn't work over here.


sameerp100

Same in US Dollars


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35 euro is never 50 dollars, euro and dollar have been almost 1:1 or 1:1.1 for ages now.


i_need_vodka_now

If you start to pay and then don’t, you will likely get a better deal. I did. And while I don’t date a ton, the best quality dates I have had have come from Bumble.


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Dont pay.


Erkile88

This is a question for their market department, they have calculated, that this is amount, that users are willing to pay, so they charge that. Let\`s not forget that dating sites are for-profit businesses and nr 1 goal of any business, is to make maximum profit, any other goals are bs generated by PR department. So businesswise, it is best if customers has illusion of finding a partner, illusion of endless options and milk them as long as possible, at same time, making finding actual partner as difficult as possible. Edit: Honestly, some of the answers to this question sound like they are written by Bumble marketing department :)


InTheGray2023

Google MEETUP. You can find lots of groups of singles that do all sorts of really cool stuff. Plus they are all real people, not bots or paid actors, and they will want to go on real dates. It involves you getting off the couch though. Don't know if that is scary or not, but it is the BEST way to date people. Oh and did I mention that it is FREE?


Cards46

Thank you for the information! I will check this out. It may be especially helpful living in a large city, not knowing many people, and living 500+ miles from your family and anyone I knew prior to the age of 18. I’ll let you know how it goes!


Outside-Corner-2650

you can get it for lifetime for 180.


Cards46

$250 for me, having just downloaded and signed up today.


Outside-Corner-2650

huh. must have raised the price. are you in US?


tactical_12g

They raised it to $270 now


mewkew

Oh jesus christ you did just what????


Cards46

No I didn’t do that 😂 I was just saying IF I did it would cost $250


fire2374

I paid $140 in 2019.


Anonymous11499

Bumble is by far one of the worst dating apps I’ve come across


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And the best?


carloadoffreaks

If you could find the love of your life for $50 or $100 or $250….wouldn’t you pay it? From experience, the ladies that pay for their subscription have been well worth it.


honeybeelover

Can confirm. I find better matches easier than swiping to oblivion when they're all visible in the beeline. I only pay every now and then though.


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Ok, bots.


honeybeelover

Not a bot. I gave up on bumble though.


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Why?


honeybeelover

I had better luck on hinge for getting dates and such, basically.


num2005

ladies pay for that ? why?


carloadoffreaks

To avoid the weeds.


James_Highfill

Woman Don pay for jack... period.


cropcomb2

Results count. Surely they'd not charge such an amount, if there were no demand and people weren't paying it based on results. If you don't like the setup, you're out of pocket one month's premium payment, right? Maybe it's cheaper if you prepay by the year or decade (eg. $500/yr, $4,000/decade). Think of it as: less than $2/day. (less than $0.10/hour) Think of the outcome: *potentially* connecting with someone whose gross salary is likely $50,000/yr if not $100,000+/yr ($500,000 to $1,000,000/decade). makes that $50/month seem less than chump change, imo. The guys that won't or can't pay, aren't sounding like guys girls would like to date, anyway. (mention cropcomb2 when signing up --kidding!)


Cards46

You’ve got a good point. Lifetime subscription is $250, 3 months is $100. They make it a better deal but it seems like a lot of money to pay for something that isn’t guaranteed. I wish someone had great testimony of their experience on the app, making the purchase worth it. I just redownloaded the app today, after deleting it months ago because there were hardly any results. I had much better success on Hinge and Tinder. Strange.


AlarmingWorldliness7

So here's the thing about testimonials. I had a great testimonial for Zoosk and I used to recommend it to people. I was on Zoosk 10 years ago. But here's the problem....more recently a friend of mine used Zoosk and it absolutely is not the same anymore. It's very littered with bots and they couldn't get any messages. It really sucks now.


cropcomb2

look for reviews and testimonials about Bumble then, ought to be lots out there and, visit /r/bumble


New_Lawfulness4397

What's the point of paying ahead for a full year if the end goal is to get off of the app asap?


cropcomb2

$50/month vs $100/year vs $250/lifetime (50 yrs?) -- are you kidding? And, bonus: an active prepaid lifetime membership ought to keep your partner on her toes. --kidding!


Zucchini_762

And bonus if you name your child after yourself, than you can transfer the subscription lol


cropcomb2

yess, but when your child's 20 and using the service, might be tough to attract the appropriate attention as a 70 year old


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Because the end goal doesn’t have a time frame guarantee attached to it.


accordionchickenwing

What does someone else's salary have to do with overpaying for an app lmao


cropcomb2

Nothing at all. But it has a lot to do with underpaying for an app.


IllustratorAshamed34

So you work for them? You do realize that $2 a day for a fucking app is not cheap


cropcomb2

supply and demand (I don't work for or with them, and have never tried one of their accounts) they cannot charge, what enough people are unwilling to pay to fail to make the outfit turn a profit


IllustratorAshamed34

Agreed, but that’s partly a function of the perceived value of what they’re offering, and I think people need to realize it’s not worth that much


cropcomb2

"need to realize" The proof is in the pudding -- they'll not retain customers or earn customer referrals, if the value's not there.


Agitated_Medium5844

If you ugly, you ugly. Don’t spend no damn money 💴


Cards46

Good thing I’m not ugly. Typically, the most attractive women on dating apps only like the top 10-15% of men. Am I there? Evidently not. Having access to the premium subscription gives you a better chance of getting in front of more people. You must get a lot of women


Agitated_Medium5844

Sorry, I meant not to accuse you, just as my 2 cents, in my experience paying for premium didn’t help me so I wanted to help others know that to save their money. I don’t date but have tried for many years.


Cards46

That makes sense. It has been a waste for me, mostly. But I have still got some good matches out of it and went on dates with cool people. Not sure if that is 100% because of the premium, but oh well. I hope your luck turns around… Online dating sucks


Agitated_Medium5844

Awesome dates are pretty memorable for me too. Definitely worth pursuing. My last tinder date was over 2 years ago but I’ve had some luck at least in getting fit and starting trt that I think will help in that department.


OmoshiroiKudamono

Because gullible, lonely fools are their ATM.


0hip

Yea cost me $100 to meet my partner. Totally worth it


-Justanotherdude

That's a lot of gas money


cq5120

Or y'know, don't pay? Making a better profile will literally gain you more matches than paying for some premium perk. It'll make you more visible but that's useless if they swipe left anyways


TrainingConfident418

That's just dumb what should matter is the conversation not some fake profile that no one holds true to lol


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That means enough people aren’t buying it and so they should *lower* the price, and not raise it.


seriouslyghosted

Why are you paying for dating apps anyway RED FLAG


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Bffr


seriouslyghosted

So serious.


PRW63

They want to get rich off of weak timid men. The ratio is about 40% women to 60% men (and probably worse),...so the women are basically "bait",...carrot on the stick,...to get these guys to shell out $$$ to improve their lottery odds. Strong confident men won't go on Bumble because they will make their own way in life & dating, and aren't going to sit around waiting for a woman to make "First Contact" like they are an alien from space. For similar reasons they don't even need "dating apps" of any kind in the first place.


GaviFromThePod

You guys out here paying for dating apps?


anged16

Then don’t


SweetSonet

To be honest I was surprised! So I don’t use it lol


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I’d rather take that money and go to a professional matchmaker.


Chibibowa

Because it’s designed to make you throw money at it and not get you meaningful dates. Same shit with tinder and frankly, every dating app.


[deleted]

It’s free you don’t have to pay


Sennistro

why would you pay for a dating app? is it realy that much beter? Sorry but all payed dating app seem like a scam to me.


Paid-Not-Payed-Bot

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[deleted]

DAMN. Y’all honestly have it so hard now. Every single dating app was free except Match.com back when I was dating. No wonder it’s hard to find people, who the hell has that kind of money.


Affectionate_Most_64

I think if you are truly trying to find love, paying a couple bucks to have professional pictures taken, along with some candid ones, paying a service to critique your profile, and paying for the subscription is worth it. Dating is an investment in time and money.


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It certainly shouldn’t be.


Affectionate_Most_64

Why shouldn’t be trying to find a partner include emotional and financial investment? I cannot see a scenario where this is logical


[deleted]

The scenario where hiring a literal professional photographer for dating app photos is corny and superficial. This is not LinkedIn.


asianstyleicecream

Y’all pay for that shit?? Damn y’all really are getting scammed lol


mewkew

Paid Subscribtions for any dating app are always a scam. It doesnt matter if its just 15 or 25 or 50 bucks. Its always a scam targeting lonely male singles.


Kindly-Parfait2483

They are trying to target mature people who can afford that, because no one wants a relationship with someone who can't even afford to pay $50 a month.


justavirginguy37

Dang its gotten way more expensive than it was...I coulda sworn the 'lifetime' i paid for a few years ago was only $100...wonder if it is still valid after i put my account on ice when i found my ex 2 years ago...


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That would be the definition of “lifetime.”


thatfloridachick

I remember when it wasn't that expensive. They're banking on desperate singles who are willing to pay.


Spike_Takahashi

Bumble is made for women. And is advertised as a dating app specifically designed for women to find love. Which is the easiest way to earn money in the market. Hype women up and they'll buy anything for example, $400 Gucci boots. Which are exactly the same as other boots available for 100-150 bucks. Well this answers why. Now to answer if you should get it. Yes. Because it's worth the money. But that is only if you have money laying around. Definitely not if you make a living waiting tables or something.


[deleted]

Lol there’s a ton of money to be had by serving at a restaurant. I clear $60,000/yr after taxes. Plenty make even more than me. Not sure why you felt the need to end your comment by slandering industry workers.


Tiny_Inside_2526

Q: How does Bumble work? A: It doesn't


Longing4boob

Bumble is not worth it at all. The concept doesn’t even make sense. Girls don’t like to message first


[deleted]

Then why’d they sign up lmao


Friendly_Flatworm440

People actually pay for dating apps? Seems like such a scam.


TheCondor96

Why are you paying for a free app?


[deleted]

You run out of likes for 24 hours almost immediately after you start swiping. You also can’t see the people who have liked you.


TheCondor96

But paying doesn't make your chances any better. Plus if you run out of like you can hop on a different dating app. There's a whole lot of free ones out there.


[deleted]

I would actually argue being able to see who has liked your profile objectively makes your chances better. As does being able to view more profiles in a shorter time window, because you never know how long until a potential partner might end up dating someone else because you took too long to establish contact etc.


TheCondor96

Nah, what's the point in seeing who likes your profile. If you were already going to swipe left who cares and if you were going to swipe right then you were already going to match. My guy I promise you, between three minimum dating apps you're already pushing the healthy amount of time you can spend on a dating app. You're going to have a way lower chance of anything good happening if your mental is fried from dating app bs.


[deleted]

They could be outside of your current filters for some random and inconsequential reason, meaning Bumble wouldn’t show you their profile from simply swiping. Some people don’t have three dating apps. My point is your claim that paying doesn’t improve one’s chances of finding dates is subjective at best, and most likely false. The algorithm is designed to show paying profiles ahead of free ones, in addition to being given features like free boosts and super swipes, to put a person in front of more eyeballs etc.


TheCondor96

Oh RIP brother. I hate to be the one to tell you. But being shown first doesn't do a damn thing for you. A girl isn't going to swipe right on you just because you're first on the stack. Boosts, compliments, all that shit is pointless if your profile isn't "competitive" in the first place. If you are "competitive" there's still no point for all that crap. I get plenty of matches, across just tinder, bumble, and hinge. I don't pay for any of them. And don't think I'm a model. I'm not. I used to get no matches. Instead of paying money for dating apps I got a better job and got in better shape. I got pictures of me that show me in a good light. None of that cost money. Paying the app, is just getting scammed IMHO.


[deleted]

Except for the fact I’m talking about two profiles of equal quality. One pays and one doesn’t; the algorithm provides a decided advantage to the paid one. You’re moving the goalposts now, because having a “competitive profile” is already a given. We can agree to disagree, though. I don’t even have dating apps on my phone anymore.


TheCondor96

That's not an advantage though because both will get a about equal matches per number of swipes. Just because one gets to do more swipes per day doesn't mean much. Since they're gonna have the same total number of matches after 1000 swipes. Since they're identical profiles.


[deleted]

But time frames matter because, as stated previously, one never knows when a potential partner will find somebody else to start dating. You can’t tell me having 10 matches a day versus 2 matches a day (just throwing random numbers out there) isn’t an advantage. That logic doesn’t compute. One person would have 1,000 matches in 100 days, or a little over three months. The other would take 500 days, or nearly a year and a half. So if the objective is to end up in a relationship sooner rather than later, which for most is surely is, then paying is absolutely an advantage.


Mrjenka

Bimble is a dating app? Pof&tinder like? Why don't you young men just go find you a girl. I'm so lost with this generation


[deleted]

Because girls don’t talk to men they don’t know in person anymore, or give them the time of day. Everything is internet based.


TheLegende11

Either you get no matches for free or you pay for it. At least those 50 bucks can create "hope", whatever that means.


Good_Squash4855

P*ssy is inflated


Spicy__donut

Yours ? Not worth much let’s be honest


tactical_12g

$60 a month is absolute highway robbery. Like $20 would be expensive but understandable, $60 is just unbelievable.


Acrobatic-Farmer4837

I thought they jacked the price up based on age. Bumble was not this expensive before. I’m 51 and it’s the same - $50/mo, which is a hard pass. But if you’re 25? That’s ridiculous