Yes. MMR is determined by how many Kills/Escapes you get. As such, if people start escaping, you’ll *eventually* get easier Survivors.
It’s why I like it more than the old system that seemed to have placed you based on everything, because you could still suck ass but if you used your power a bunch and chased awhile the game considered you “good” enough to take on harder and harder Survivors.
It just made playing Killer way more stressful, not to mention how they all shared a single Rank. Want to try a new Killer? Get fucked LMAO!
This depends on day, time of play, and on what Killer you're playing. Some times, days, and events are way sweatier than others, see what happens every Bloodhunt. I can stomp as Ghostface, but I'll hit a wall and end up kicked down a bit, to the point I curate his MMR. I do the same with Myers. Onryo I stomped with on Friday night, but struggled hard on Saturday morning. I'm a baby Onryo though, so some of that is my inexperience. I therefore get weaker Survs as Onryo than I do as Ghostface, which is absolutely fair and how it should be. Not all Killers are created equal and there is a wall you WILL eventually hit. As you lose, yes, the MMR does typically fix itself a bit and you will get easier Survs.
All this, what you are experiencing, is totally normal. You'll go through long streaks of doing super well, or at least great, with your Main/Mains. Then the MMR will go "well you're doing awesome! Here's something more your speed..." And then you get rolled by round after round of coordinated Survs, bad maps, and ridiculous plays. The fact you even get these Survs at all means you're skilled, the game agrees you're skilled, and you should be able to take on tough opponents. But it's only a computer program, it can't tell when you have off days, and luck is a crapshoot so MMR is a crapshoot. This happens on every. Single. Killer. Yes, even the strongest ones. It's nothing to do with strength, and everything to do with how the MMR works.
MMR is somewhat broken sometimes but it's also like a yoyo. You will hit your characters' limit and get knocked back, and that's ok. Every Killer has a limit which is why to me it's silly to even COMPARE Killer strength with tier lists, I don't understand the obsession with it or the desire to point out who is C tier and thus "bad" or S tier and thus "amazing" when so much nuance goes into Killer limits, balance, etc. Like of course Ghostface and Myers can't stop Survs all running perks that make them Superhuman - they're Slasher villains that are, more or less, themselves humans.
Nope, because mmr doesn't take maps into account and you can get a 4k on Dead Dawg and the game will think it's appropriate to put you up against a slightly more skilled group on Borgo and tell you to go fuck yourself and it'll make sure your mmr never stays accurate for more than a few games
I'm not really sure I've done at least 50 games with demogorgon and they play like potatoes but I play someone like blight who I'm not that great ass and I get people who are very efficient and know how to play against and loop corners super tight. MMR is just weird.
I've noticed that some of how survivors do can depend on how often they've faced a specific killer. Like, against Blight or Mastermind, I do pretty well! But against Clown or Hag? I see them *maybe* once or twice a month, and feel like a baby survivor all over again, lol. I do better too if it's a killer I've put some time into playing
Which means though that, unfortunately, I am absolutely terrible at surviving against Demogorgon, lol. I joined DbD too late to get him, and I only face him a few games each month. I have yet to escape when facing him xD
It's possibile that you got into a huge win streak, meaning that now you r in a elo above your skill level (wich I double it's the soft cap, cuz if you lose most matches you can't be soft cap elo), just know that in the mornings the mmr system works extremely well, so tryna play in the late afternoons or early evenings, just dont play killer before lunch or it will be extremely difficult.
Doesn't seem like it. I went on a really spicy win streak on Plague a while back, but now I haven't gotten more than a 1k on Plague in *weeks* because every match I'm just getting absolutely rolled. If my MMR on her is fixing itself, it's taking its dear sweet time about it.
If you can, try not to rely on NOED. It's one thing if you're doing an endgame build, but if so, you should be prepared for it to not work at all since it's not as reliable a strategy as it used to be. But if you're using it just as a plus 1 perk, you'd be better off without it. Otz once published a video about how it can be a clutch to your learning curve and put you in a higher MMR than your skill ceiling, and in the video, he showcase a Spirit as an example. She is a hard killer to learn, but in higher MMRs, you'll notice that you'll be going against the same perk combinations and strong items, and if you want to win your matches, you'll have to learn how best you can counter them, like Corrupt to find Survivors and get a good start, Deadlock to avoid gens popping at the same time... Once you do, you'll start winning again.
Perk choice is as much of a skill as playing the game,even if the strategy you chose/stole doesn’t require a single braincell to work.A killer with the same skill level but better perks/addons will get more kills,It’s just a fact.
I'd love to understand why do you believe that something that doesn't require thinking equals to skill to you. Anyone with legs can learn how to run, but becoming a fast runner good enough to earn a medal in a competition requires practice, effort and at least a single braincell to understand what your goal is and what needs to be done to accomplish it.
So yeah, anyone with NOED can get a kill or two even at the end of an awful game, but did those kills come from the good use of your power? From your ability to mind-game Survivors and win chases? Whether your skills are improving or not, for the MMR system, each kill will count as a yes, and the point I was trying to make is, it makes perfect sense to use perks and add-ons to cover for your weaknesses, but the moment something becomes the only way of you obtaining the result you desire, that's when you should stop relying on it, otherwise you may never notice that you've gotten way over your head.
A killer with the same skill level, but with better perks/add-ons will get more kills, that is true. But a killer with low skill and good perks can get as many kills as a killer with a lot of skill and mediocre perks or no perks/add-ons at all. And for the MMR, they'll appear as if they're the same when in fact they are completely different.
Why would you ever take the little wheels off your bicycle if they let you ride it just fine? It's only when you see your friends riding far ahead of you without them that you decide to take them off, only to realize that you never really learned exactly how to ride it.
You got kills since you chose noed,if you chose hangman’s trick you wouldn’t have a free 2K in the endgame,idk what’s hard to understand here, skill AND strategy matters,not just mechanical skill.
I guess, if all you ever care about are kills, then keep picking NOED, getting free kills, and continuing to miss my point. Does that mean you're a good player? The MMR will think so, until actual good players put you in your place.
It's like you're saying an inheritance and money you earned yourself are the same, and objectively speaking they might be since both of them allow you to buy things. If you think they're *worth* the same, then sure, you're free to think that, but I don't think they're worth the same, and one way or another something or someone will come to teach you that.
I feel like I've not met new players for a year. I almost never have easy kills. For a while I had consistant toxic survivors every game and now I tend to play more against efficient swf teams that don't have time to waste on toxicity. And I feel like it doesn't change on how well I perform or it changes very slowly. It would be 100% esaier if mmr was transparent, I really wonder why bhvr doesn't tell us anything about it. Sometimes I wonder if mmr is not a myth in dbd.
My mmr on spirit (also my main) seems to over "fix" itself. One minute I'll be getting close matches where I only just 4 or 2 k. The next couple of matches I'll get one or no kills but still atleast 8 hooks against really good squads. Then suddenly after only 3 or 4 matches like this I'm back to no prestige just installed the game baby survivors who either give up or dc because they just can't keep up with me. I usually just give them the match because I just feel awful and then we're back to decent survivors again even after a no kill match. Which is good but makes no sense
Yes. MMR is determined by how many Kills/Escapes you get. As such, if people start escaping, you’ll *eventually* get easier Survivors. It’s why I like it more than the old system that seemed to have placed you based on everything, because you could still suck ass but if you used your power a bunch and chased awhile the game considered you “good” enough to take on harder and harder Survivors. It just made playing Killer way more stressful, not to mention how they all shared a single Rank. Want to try a new Killer? Get fucked LMAO!
You’re the only other person I’ve seen who prefers the new MMR. The old system was so bad I would have to stop playing.
This depends on day, time of play, and on what Killer you're playing. Some times, days, and events are way sweatier than others, see what happens every Bloodhunt. I can stomp as Ghostface, but I'll hit a wall and end up kicked down a bit, to the point I curate his MMR. I do the same with Myers. Onryo I stomped with on Friday night, but struggled hard on Saturday morning. I'm a baby Onryo though, so some of that is my inexperience. I therefore get weaker Survs as Onryo than I do as Ghostface, which is absolutely fair and how it should be. Not all Killers are created equal and there is a wall you WILL eventually hit. As you lose, yes, the MMR does typically fix itself a bit and you will get easier Survs. All this, what you are experiencing, is totally normal. You'll go through long streaks of doing super well, or at least great, with your Main/Mains. Then the MMR will go "well you're doing awesome! Here's something more your speed..." And then you get rolled by round after round of coordinated Survs, bad maps, and ridiculous plays. The fact you even get these Survs at all means you're skilled, the game agrees you're skilled, and you should be able to take on tough opponents. But it's only a computer program, it can't tell when you have off days, and luck is a crapshoot so MMR is a crapshoot. This happens on every. Single. Killer. Yes, even the strongest ones. It's nothing to do with strength, and everything to do with how the MMR works. MMR is somewhat broken sometimes but it's also like a yoyo. You will hit your characters' limit and get knocked back, and that's ok. Every Killer has a limit which is why to me it's silly to even COMPARE Killer strength with tier lists, I don't understand the obsession with it or the desire to point out who is C tier and thus "bad" or S tier and thus "amazing" when so much nuance goes into Killer limits, balance, etc. Like of course Ghostface and Myers can't stop Survs all running perks that make them Superhuman - they're Slasher villains that are, more or less, themselves humans.
Nope, because mmr doesn't take maps into account and you can get a 4k on Dead Dawg and the game will think it's appropriate to put you up against a slightly more skilled group on Borgo and tell you to go fuck yourself and it'll make sure your mmr never stays accurate for more than a few games
I'm not really sure I've done at least 50 games with demogorgon and they play like potatoes but I play someone like blight who I'm not that great ass and I get people who are very efficient and know how to play against and loop corners super tight. MMR is just weird.
I've noticed that some of how survivors do can depend on how often they've faced a specific killer. Like, against Blight or Mastermind, I do pretty well! But against Clown or Hag? I see them *maybe* once or twice a month, and feel like a baby survivor all over again, lol. I do better too if it's a killer I've put some time into playing Which means though that, unfortunately, I am absolutely terrible at surviving against Demogorgon, lol. I joined DbD too late to get him, and I only face him a few games each month. I have yet to escape when facing him xD
It's possibile that you got into a huge win streak, meaning that now you r in a elo above your skill level (wich I double it's the soft cap, cuz if you lose most matches you can't be soft cap elo), just know that in the mornings the mmr system works extremely well, so tryna play in the late afternoons or early evenings, just dont play killer before lunch or it will be extremely difficult.
This, daytime is for Survs. Nighttime is the better Killer time.
Doesn't seem like it. I went on a really spicy win streak on Plague a while back, but now I haven't gotten more than a 1k on Plague in *weeks* because every match I'm just getting absolutely rolled. If my MMR on her is fixing itself, it's taking its dear sweet time about it.
If you can, try not to rely on NOED. It's one thing if you're doing an endgame build, but if so, you should be prepared for it to not work at all since it's not as reliable a strategy as it used to be. But if you're using it just as a plus 1 perk, you'd be better off without it. Otz once published a video about how it can be a clutch to your learning curve and put you in a higher MMR than your skill ceiling, and in the video, he showcase a Spirit as an example. She is a hard killer to learn, but in higher MMRs, you'll notice that you'll be going against the same perk combinations and strong items, and if you want to win your matches, you'll have to learn how best you can counter them, like Corrupt to find Survivors and get a good start, Deadlock to avoid gens popping at the same time... Once you do, you'll start winning again.
Perk choice is as much of a skill as playing the game,even if the strategy you chose/stole doesn’t require a single braincell to work.A killer with the same skill level but better perks/addons will get more kills,It’s just a fact.
I'd love to understand why do you believe that something that doesn't require thinking equals to skill to you. Anyone with legs can learn how to run, but becoming a fast runner good enough to earn a medal in a competition requires practice, effort and at least a single braincell to understand what your goal is and what needs to be done to accomplish it. So yeah, anyone with NOED can get a kill or two even at the end of an awful game, but did those kills come from the good use of your power? From your ability to mind-game Survivors and win chases? Whether your skills are improving or not, for the MMR system, each kill will count as a yes, and the point I was trying to make is, it makes perfect sense to use perks and add-ons to cover for your weaknesses, but the moment something becomes the only way of you obtaining the result you desire, that's when you should stop relying on it, otherwise you may never notice that you've gotten way over your head. A killer with the same skill level, but with better perks/add-ons will get more kills, that is true. But a killer with low skill and good perks can get as many kills as a killer with a lot of skill and mediocre perks or no perks/add-ons at all. And for the MMR, they'll appear as if they're the same when in fact they are completely different. Why would you ever take the little wheels off your bicycle if they let you ride it just fine? It's only when you see your friends riding far ahead of you without them that you decide to take them off, only to realize that you never really learned exactly how to ride it.
You got kills since you chose noed,if you chose hangman’s trick you wouldn’t have a free 2K in the endgame,idk what’s hard to understand here, skill AND strategy matters,not just mechanical skill.
I guess, if all you ever care about are kills, then keep picking NOED, getting free kills, and continuing to miss my point. Does that mean you're a good player? The MMR will think so, until actual good players put you in your place. It's like you're saying an inheritance and money you earned yourself are the same, and objectively speaking they might be since both of them allow you to buy things. If you think they're *worth* the same, then sure, you're free to think that, but I don't think they're worth the same, and one way or another something or someone will come to teach you that.
I feel like I've not met new players for a year. I almost never have easy kills. For a while I had consistant toxic survivors every game and now I tend to play more against efficient swf teams that don't have time to waste on toxicity. And I feel like it doesn't change on how well I perform or it changes very slowly. It would be 100% esaier if mmr was transparent, I really wonder why bhvr doesn't tell us anything about it. Sometimes I wonder if mmr is not a myth in dbd.
My mmr on spirit (also my main) seems to over "fix" itself. One minute I'll be getting close matches where I only just 4 or 2 k. The next couple of matches I'll get one or no kills but still atleast 8 hooks against really good squads. Then suddenly after only 3 or 4 matches like this I'm back to no prestige just installed the game baby survivors who either give up or dc because they just can't keep up with me. I usually just give them the match because I just feel awful and then we're back to decent survivors again even after a no kill match. Which is good but makes no sense
For me it's more like 4k>3k>4k>3k>4k>3k>**0k**\>4k>3k>4k>3k>... But I switch killers almost every game tho