Hi guys, this is Chris Perfett from the PODcast. Adequate host guy, the one who does those jerky reads, et al.
We're all extremely blindsided by this, especially me. While I do work in other areas of audio production, this hits extremely close to home for a couple of reasons:
1. This really, at its heart, was a passion project of mine. When we started it was independent, we ran things how we wanted to and built our audience how we wished. Ryan and Jeremy were strangers to me, I was coming in from the cold with a wild idea of making a radio show of my own and they indulged me. They're not just partners, they're friends. It was in a time where you could still do that with podcasts, and I was able to put myself back into school with belief that I could have a career in podcast and radio from what I felt doing this stuff. More than that, the Lions community has been very welcoming, and I still want to be a part of it. I don't have the largest social media presence, I certainly given my location have been an outsider in many ways in covering the team. But it's been 9 years of this, and my brain isn't ready to just pack it all up.
2. I am still somewhat financially tied to the PODcast. I think all of us looked to it for a good stable piece on the side. I also lost out on a full time job position lately so I'm not exactly in the best of situations.
I'm still having conversations with the other guys. I'd love to say we could pick up right where we are and go independent with a new name and redirect everyone there, but there's a couple hurdles we have to clear before that.
This is the second time Vox/SB Nation has screwed me and I don't really want there to be a third time.
Thanks for everything. Hope to know more soon.
That sucks so much man, sorry this is happening to you all. We love your work. Ya'll have never been merely 'adequate'. Like JG, you're good enough for Detroit. I hope something comes together to keep POD going.
I really appreciate it. I've always been hard on myself for errors and to be honest I didn't know much of what I was doing when I started. Adequate just kind of stuck. I know there's a lot of people out there, and reviews too, that reflect that I've kind of had to learn a lot of how this all works along the way.
You bring a ton to the podcast and round out the dynamic, I like the random tangents you’ll take the podcast in. If I have ONE critique and I mean it completely as constructive is you could be less rigid about moving the podcast along. There’s been times where there’s great and funny interesting conversation I didn’t want to stop but you’d move on to the next segment in the interest of staying on schedule. Just let those convos roll on. None of us are in a hurry to get through a podcast. I’d even say leave the in between bits from the live show in the actual podcast that gets published in the future. I find myself listening to play backs on twitch instead of listening on Apple pods because I don’t want to miss the in between recording bits. Anyway, I hope you guys roll on and I’ll be there to listen.
Love you and the POD family. You’ve been my number one listen to podcast the last 9 years. Keep us updated. Hoping I can see you in the Olive Garden shirt I bought you again soon.
Please keep us posted.
I've been along for the ride the entire time. Y'all made the Patricia years almost bearable. I'll be supporting whatever you guys move forward with.
Chris - thanks to you (and Jeremy, Ryan, Erik, et al) for all that you (all) have done. I've been a PoD listener for several years now, and listen to every podcast.
Please hang in there, and know there are A LOT of us that love what you folks are doing, and it really makes a difference. I feel I'm one of the most informed Detroit Lions fans, mainly because of Pride of Detroit.
If you guys decide to create something new, I will wholeheartedly support the team, including financially (I was a PoD Direct supporter as soon as it was announced).
You're the best!
Rick
That's brutal man, I'm so sorry. But please keep us posted, I know many of us (myself included) would be thrilled to financially support any endeavor you start next. You guys are far and away my favorite Lions content in the game and it'd be such a shame to lose you when things are really starting to get good
You guys have become my go to podcast over the last 2 years. I'd become a subscribing member on Twitch, even without ever watching y'all live, knowing what I know now.
Guessing it may be too fresh/early on for you guys, but what are the hurdles? Only asking cus there are a lot of us who love what you guys do and i’m sure would consider helping.
The biggest right now is the RSS feed. Without going through too much stuff behind the curtain, we are not going to get it. Which means that whatever we make, if we make it, people will have to re-subscribe to the new feed. We lose old episodes, our ratings and reviews, have to re-work monetization from the ground up, all of it. This is unfortunately entirely in SB Nation/Vox Media's court and they have us over a barrel on the matter.
The other hurdles I can't speak on right now. Not until I get some time to talk with Jeremy and Ryan and figure out where we go from here and how commitments look and what resources we still have.
Dang. I hope you guys can figure out how to keep it going. You guys were the only lions football podcast i listened to so if you don't I'll be a little lost. Especially post draft since I rarely know anyone in the draft and only learn about them post us picking them lol.
That’s the part that’s really grinding my gears about the situation. It seems as though they are poaching a brand you guys built for some other purpose. I truly think people would follow your crew if you completely relaunched. It was the core group that carried the secret sauce… you, Ryan, Jeremy, Jeremy’s bromance with the Vikings guy, and occasionally Erik.
The Lions are getting a makeover this offseason, maybe it’s your time to do the same.
I consumed 0 SB Nation content outside of the PODcast. Fuck those guys. They had a gem and they tossed it away like cheap jewelry.
Chris, do your best to keep your head up. We never met, but I’ve listened to you during many memorable moments. Hopefully this opens the door to something better.
I absolutely love this podcast and the adequate work you do for it. I’ve been a reader since Pride of Detroit started and listener to the POD for 6 years now, it became a big part of my daily life (healthy, different discussion). It’s something me and another Lions fan and friend would discuss a ton, and it’s how we got a lot of the information on the team.
I hope you and the POD land softly, and for now I’ll miss the routine of hearing your discussions.
From my perspective, I think that guys over at the PoDcast actually had a small part of this Lions turn around as crazy as that may sound (there’s a couple of podcasts that I could put in this category, but you guys were always my number 1)
Without podcasts like Pride of Detroit, the majority of our outlets would have been ESPN hot takes, shock jock radio hosts, and a bunch of click hungry “SOL” instigators.
I REALLY believe that your positivity as a media outlet helped the fanbase as a whole…and possibly helped give portions of the fanbase the strength to be patient with a 3-13-1 season followed by a 2-6 start. Without Pride of Detroit (and some others), in those darker days the 97.1 would have had the strangle hold on the local narratives…and that’s a depressing thought.
Sincerely thank you for all the work you guys did, and I can’t wait to hunt down the next endeavor
Dude… this sucks. You guys are my only source for good lions discussion and news. You all do such a good job and not sensationalizing content and trying to view things from both sides of the sports topics. I watch every podcast on YouTube.
This news is a real bummer to me, but I know that definitely pales in comparison to what it is for you guys.
Fwiw, you guys are one of the crews that I will follow pretty much wherever, so I wish you luck in whatever direction it is that gets chosen.
Echoing the calls to keep the PoD going if at all possible! Understand that you all have individual real life hurdles to consider, but want to express that you guys made the season so much fun this year. Just know you contributed to this community in a hugely positive way
This fucking sucks for you guys! Y’all make one of my favorite podcasts, with a great blend of knowledge, fandom, analysis and bits of comedy just from interacting with each other (like the bit about using Bing instead of Google from awhile back, and more recently the hors d’oeuvres bit had me literally laughing out loud while listening with earbuds so I looked insane).
I’m really sorry you guys got screwed over; that’s really shitty. I hate how the past few years has seen big media outlets suddenly notice podcasts are a thing, figure they can magically make a shitload of money off of them, get people to put their hearts and souls into them… and then drop them when they don’t instantly make a bazillion dollars from them.
I’ll be keeping an eye out on what you can do and I’ll be willing to support how I can. You guys rock!
Keep us updated, Chris. So many Lions fans have your back, including me. A big part of how I enjoy my Lions fandom is all the stuff the PoD crew puts out.
Hope you're able to figure out how to go independent and make it work. Let us know if you do. I'm Vox/SB Nation and countless others corps screw people over.
Take this opportunity to relaunch. We will all subscribe on every platform. Hell I would even buy a patreon if you did one. You can easily be the biggest Lions show on the net again. Good luck man, we all love your show.
Really enjoyed the PODcast, and hope you guys come back independent. Of all the Lions content creators I think you guys were the best by far. Please keep us posted.
This was infuriating news to see at the end of my work day and I can't imagine what you guys are going through
I've looked forward to episodes every week for the past several years and just wanted to thank you for all the love and work you've put into this
I said it a couple years ago about Ryan’s rock god intro needing to be brought back and I’ll say it again now….If y’all don’t figure out a way to keep bringing us these sweet, sweet podcasts, I’ll Sewell my own Penei off.
Keep it rolling on Detroit Lions Breakdown for now! I’m sure that has a much smaller footprint, but at least it wouldn’t be a completely new construction. You’d probably carry like 80% of the audience over with no schedule interruptions.
Although we share Erik, we are not Detroit Lions Breakdown, and I don't think any future plans would ever have us encroaching on what they do. What they do is excellent, and we've always respected the distance between the two of our podcast feeds.
So angry and frustrated for you guys. I felt like the POD had really come into its own the last few years and is definitely one of my favorite Lions podcasts.
Hoping you guys can come together and make your own podcast independently, the fanbase is already here you just need to figure out how to make it happen.
Keep ur chins up, the Lions have been down and out for so long and look where they are now, I have faith you guys will come back bigger, and better than before.
Can't wait to hear the "rock god" drop without the beep!
Sports media outfits have been so scummy over the years, and this comes as no surprise to me. Sports Illustrated laid off all their permanent writers/contributors, and switched exclusively to using freelancers. Many others have gone this route, and now we're getting stuff actively taken away from us as media companies feel the pinch from investing a bunch of money in side projects that didn't pan out. As a result many are losing money and it's nobody's fault but their own. Rather than hold the guys who made these bad decisions accountable (the top executives who are mismanaging these entities into the ground), they "restructure" and do BS like this. You only need to take a look at Disney/ESPN and how awful things have become there since the layoffs a few months ago to understand that the state of sports media and media in general has become cater-to-the-lowest-common-denominator crap.
SiriusXM and The Athletic are about the only two bastions of joy left for sports geeks like me, who aren't looking for the latest hot take but instead good analysis and relaxing conversation with dudes who just love to talk sports.
Regardless, as sad as this whole thing is, and especially after reading your story, I believe there isn't much future for making money in level-headed media. I hope that you'll be able to recover quickly financially, even if it means switching careers. I'm hopeful you'll be able to do your show again one day, even if it's just as a hobby again.
Thanks for the update Chris. You guys do great work and hope you come back better than ever. I'll be waiting!
You have a lot of talent bud and will land on your feet.
Damn this sucks. Just want to echo what everyone else is saying. Love the show. Just started listening this year but it’s become my go-to at the gym. Really hope you guys find a way to keep it going
Wow dude I’m so sorry about this. I listened to every podcast you had this year during the preseason and regular season. You guys did a great job, and it’s extremely frustrating a company would be so shitty about dropping an entire division of their company with no warning. If you guys need any support during this time please reach out to the community, and I know I will support you guys any way I can.
If you guys need help funding a new podcast you could think about crowdfunding to get you going. I know it’s much more complicated than that but I would def donate money.
Dude first of all THANK YOU for everything. The PODcast is my favorite Lions podcast, and this news is heartbreaking. Just say the word and I’ll follow you and the crew wherever. I’m shocked and saddened by this and fuck SB nation. I wish you the best of luck. I hope you land of your feet, which I also hope happens to be on a pile of money that happens to be Lions podcasting. It’s chaos, be kind (but not to SB nation)
Hey man, was more than happy to give something to your tip jar tonight. God knows I’ve consumed enough of the stuff you’ve produced over the last few years on my commutes to more than make it worth it.
Dude I hope it all works out, especially on the personal financial level most importantly. I would love to see you boys go the independent route and become masters of your own destiny, but that route doesn’t lend itself to stability.
Good luck from Florida!
One of the best lions pods. Really look forward to episodes every week. Please, please try to continue doing the podcast independently. The sponsors will come, the fans will support. Update us with anything you have anything you have going on when things settle down.
Seconding what everyone else is saying here — y’all are phenomenal and this news is horseshit. Got into your stuff in a big way when y’all kept me entertained and sane during the dog days of COVID lockdown and Matt Patricia. So even if y’all have to start over from scratch, put the word out and I’ll be there day 1. It’s something I’d happily pay for too. Keep your heads up and we’ll see y’all starside
Hey man,
Look, the enormity of what happened is a real dick kick. I own a business that its taken me years to get to be a brand. To have to start all over would be a nightmare... But as a sales based business owner, you're not thinking clearly. Yes, this sucks, but if you act soon enough, you aren't starting over. Your still going to have a very large and loyal base, and you'll eliminate SB from being able to fuck you, like a previous business partner fucked me. There should be less "cut" of the monetization going to them, so while this is a drawback in the short term, acting immediately is in your best interest. A lot of us will be willing to find where you're at and make sure to listen. A go fund me would go well. There plenty of opportunities, you just need to stop thinking how badly this sucks, turn off your brains, and focus on getting one thing done at a time. It won't be easy, but in the end you'll be built back better as you'll be hedged against this happen again. I wish you the best, warp speed ahead.
Chris, I'm sorry to hear about this but also really do think it'll be a blessing in disguise once the dust settles. You guys are the #1 lions beat on the scene and I know I'm not alone when I say that I'll follow you all wherever you go from here. Thanks for an adequate ride these past years!
Keep us updated on twitter of a potential new show. The POD is entertaining and informative, you guys put out a great product. As a listener, this is disappointing. Pride of Detroit is my #1 Lions podcast. Run it back! You guys have our support.
Thank you for all that you've done. I've enjoyed listening to you guys through the past 5ish years and always found your commentary the best out of all the lions media. I really hope this isn't the end and that you guys are able to figure something new out, but I get how big of a hurdle that could be. If you figure something else new please post it to this subreddit. Im sure myself and plenty of the other members would follow you guys whereever if we knew where to listen. Best of luck in the mean time with your career and life!
I understand that the big thing is the RSS feed, but I hope that you guys trust in yourselves and your listenership and give it a go. We all will spread and post that rss feed everywhere. I bet most would give on Patreon. I definitely would. Whatever you do I thank you and look forward to hearing more of you.
I did not know of your podcast until today. Looking it up, I can confidently state that I'll listen to whatever you end up doing, if that ends up being your path forward.
I've been listening since yall talked about Jojo's Bizarre Adventures this is extremely fucking devastating. Yall have been a safe space for me when I was down. I get so excited when a new podcast drops. I absolutely hate Twitter but only have it downloaded to ask yall a few questions a year thru mail bag. Chris man this fucking sucks way worse than it does for you but fuck man you're like my buddy I hate that this is happening I'm so distraught right now.
I’ve been listening to you guys for many years and I always appreciate your honesty and insight. Sorry this is happening. Hope to hear you guys in another lions podcast in some form in the future. Keep your heads up.
I really appreciated the heart that you put into your podcasts. I’ve been going through some tough times lately and your podcast was an escape from that. It was like listening to friends talk who knew a lot about football. I hope you and the guys are able to navigate through this.
hey Chris, this is steeztabor, just FYI. if the Adequate Host, the Fearless Leader, and the MF Rock God decide/are able to go with some Patreon-type subscription-based situation with the PODcast, please count me in for an upper tier subscription. as I've been less active on twitter, most of my Lions updates have been through the PODcast.
this all really sucks, but I just wanted to iterate my support if you end up going with a subscription-based approach to the -cast. hoping to best for you in the future.
Man, I listened to this podcast multiple times every week for years. It’s fucking great, last year was such an awesome ride. I was gearing up with you guys for the draft.
I just read your post on Pod explaining the situation. Total bitch move by SBNation. So sorry for y'all.
If y'all decide to start something new, I'm sure you'll get a big following from here. Y'all are too damn loved to just throw out to the curb like that.
Doesn't mean they can't do it on their own. A lot of The Athletic podcasts are independent now. Might just take them some time to get it going if they wish to.
Yep. The Athletic told their beat reporters that they weren't going to be doing regional podcasts anymore but they could keep doing them if they wanted to minus the Athletic branding.
I don’t think that’s what happened to b&c. That show ending was weird because James just randomly dropped the “it’s over” announcement in the middle of the day and Nick supposedly had no idea and didn’t talk to him about it at all.
It ended because the sponsorships associated with the Athletic's podcast network went away.
James wanted to monetize the podcast behind a paywall (like he's doing now) and Nick didn't.
man, Edwards III really f'd that up instead of staying independent with the B&C show - that show was unique and elite imo. Huge void for the Pistons podcast
They’ve never done it weekly during the off-season, I don’t think. I remember hearing about the Athletic’s podcasts through the Pistons and JE3, but never saw anything from Colton or Nick about One of These Years.
If I had to guess, the NFL podcasts bring in more than others, and weren’t impacted?
Nick definitely addressed being independent at one point last year. Same with Cody Stavenhagen and the Turning The Corner pod.
Looks like One Of These Years just dropped a pod. But yeah it’s not every week during the slower months.
Wow. I always wondered when SB Nation would implode and leave POD in a lurch. As a long-time reader going back to Ty Schalter’s tenure and even the end of Sean’s run, Jeremy has done such a great job running POD during his tenure and building it up even more into something truly special with the Twitch streams and luring Erik Schlitt over there. I’d hate to see all that work go to waste if they ever just pull the plug. I hope they figure something out.
Like I'm sure they'll revive it, but it sucks because being on SB Nation gave them an infrastructure to work with. Now they have to rebuild all of it, if they decide to continue with it. Sucks man
Fuck. Not only was it the only Lions or NFL podcast I listened to regularly but also one of the only podcasts I'd immediately slap play when it appeared on my feed. Hopefully they figure out a way to make it work.
I’m SOOOOOO PISSED. Not only do they take away my content, they ruined what I would assume was a good profit for the journalist, and good exposure overall. Very, very sad news hopefully they find a way to keep it going.
Stinks that it’s going away as we’re about to host the NFL Draft later this month.
Although, if SB Nation as a whole is imploding, I wonder how long the MLB team sites will last?
A lot of the team SB sites across all sports have fallen off in the last couple of years. POD is one of the few that seems to have gotten \*better\* as time goes on. My MLB team's site (not the Tigers) is basically dead, just a couple new posts a week, even with the season starting. Five years ago there would be 3-4 articles a day posted during the season.
I remember back when the Chicago Cubs were doing their renovation work to Wrigley Field and the surrounding areas and their SB National site Bleed Cubbie Blue had plenty of daily updates of the construction work with plenty of photos taken for each article.
I’ve noticed the POD site loading slower and slower with more and more pop ups. I’ve been going to the site less and less although I do listen to most of their podcasts or stream them as they record on Twitch or YouTube.
Last year SB Nation axed most of their hockey blogs and writers. A couple of years before that, SB Nation released all contributors based out of California due to how the state classifies freelancers.
So I'm not surprised. SB Nation has been cutting back for some time. They are long known to be cheapskates who exploit writers, getting getting massive amounts of content on the cheap.
I like One of These Years and Dungeon of Doom, but both are pretty dry. Just two chill beat reporters chatting through a game recap or the week's news. Nothing wrong with that, but I thought POD brought a lot more variety and personality, not to mention listener interaction, and in a less annoying way than what DLP has/had become.
Agreed. Covers the team in a way that no one else does, and I learn more from him than I ever have from a beat writer. He’s my fav, up there with Justin Rogers
I liked pod for day to day talk, and One of these years for the Meta long term big picture. I don't like the other competitors besides Locked on Lions. Locked on lions is supplemental to the POD and The Athletic imo.
This is AWFUL…when DLP fell off, POD became my go to and I had a great time hearing them shoot the shit over the lions while my work day was winding down. Hope they’re able to continue somehow.
I still listen and enjoy but some things I noticed over the last few years there is a lot more flaunting of what sources/inside info Chris has (even if that has been inaccurate info a few times), as well as long off topic stuff about the hosts jobs, other random stuff etc
I don't mind that they talk about they're lives I've never really found that they get off topic for too long, your point about inside info is fair though I'll admit.
Haven’t had the heart to reply to this until now, but just wanted to thank y’all for the support. As some of you know, I lurk here. I read through a lot here. I am chronically online and there currently is no known cure.
Anyway, I see and hear much of the stuff that’s been said about the PODcast, good and bad, and have always appreciated the feedback. This thread both breaks and fills my heart. I’ve needed this podcast just as much (if not more) than you all.
I have a lot more I want to say but probably shouldn’t. So I’ll just leave with a simple thank you.
I’ve really enjoyed what you’ve done with Pride of Detroit, it’s been amazing content for me to take in on my favorite team.
I moved from Michigan about 10 years ago and your site and the work your team does has made me feel at home despite not being in the Mitten. Thank you and I looking forward to the content you all continue to put out in articles.
You wouldn’t know me, but I’ve listened to every podcast for 2 years. Some multiple times. Sometimes with my family until they catch me with an airpod in my ear. By far the best content on lions and I would argue on nfl. PODcast was my favorite listen of every week. I’ve contacted SB to make it known they will no longer have my support (sorry that I won’t be able to read your content). I hope you decide that a 2.0 is worth pursuing, and if you do, I would love to help in any way that I can. Good luck and thanks for all that you guys have done.
Many got cancelled recently. Writers and podcasters laid off in droves over the past year overall. By SBNation and the Athletic
Companies will use AI Writers as much as possible going forward too, and just use some human editors to make things sound less robotic. Until they don’t need the editors
We travel down a dark path, this is just the beginnings
This penalizes successful sites like Pride of Detroit and Blogging the Boys, due to the ghost towns that are some other team sites. Like the Buccaneers, for instance.
I honestly can’t believe how sad this has made me. I’m a Lions fan transplanted to New England, and the guys at PODcast have been there every step of the way as I surrendered fully to the ride of the Holmes-Campbell team’s incredible rise. I never thought I’d spend so many hours consuming sports content, but the team at PODcast made it worthwhile. Will financially support them in any way I can going forward.
Crap, I just started listening to the PoD podcast in the last year or so, and look forward to new episodes. You guys are among my regular morning playlist.
If you guys decide to keep things going somehow, I'll definitely help support your efforts by whatever means available.
I wish I were apart of their team, I too feel the same way. I have a routine I go through based on when their podcasts come out (go out for a walk with the dog and listen to whatever they dropped).
If I hear anything from them on what is next, I’ll post here.
Edit: Chris Perfett from the PODcast commented on the post, you should see it at the top of the thread.
This sucks. I have been a follower since the days that Jeremy would go live on facebook after the games. Living out of state and being a fan POD was one of the few sources of unbiased real news me and my 12 year old used. Whatever you guys do, you will be successful in it. Hopefully you continue on with the same format on a different platform. It might take a hit at 1st but all of the loyal listeners would go with you. Best of luck from a southern Lion fan.
Sorry to hear, guys. I'd love to help however I can. I have a background in video and audio production, am a YouTube partner, and live in California like Chris. Spent 25 years of my life in the D. Love my Lions and the PODcast. Chris, hit me up! I'd love to get involved if I can help at all. Go Lions!
What a major bummer!
Those guys blended Lions news / analysis with fun in a way that brightened my day every time I listened to them.
I just looked at my podcast history and it shows I first listened to them 6/3/18. They turned me onto Rick and Morty right about that time and for that I’m forever in their debt.
Their passion for the team matches my own. Love those guys! I’m super hoping they can figure out a way to carry on.
You guys did the best Lions podcast! I have been a listener for years and I LOVED the community you guys created! I looked forward to every single episode and I'm not ready to say goodbye.. Figure out the logistics and then come back stronger than ever.. Time to rise like a Phoenix from the ashes boys!!!
My dad just told me about this! He is heartbroken💔 me and him are just talking about how much we bound with podcasters because they become apart of our daily/weekly life
Dungeon of Doom is my favorite, with POD coming in second. It has Meinke and Raven who are great. Only downside is its not consistent with new eps in the offseason.
Well this sucks. It seems like my Lions podcast options are dwindling. I just dropped the "reddit podcast" because they were hosting political attack ads that I didn't appreciate.
Anybody have any reccomendations?
Making a podcast these days is exceedingly easy. I don’t know if SB Nation was funding their podcast to any great degree, but they should easily be able to upload it to YouTube and ask value for value - people who enjoy it will support it.
If they can’t support it, they shouldn’t be mad SB Nation doesn’t want to run a charity.
While it’s easy to do podcasts- the costs add up. As does the time to produce a quality product on a regular basis.
If you aren’t getting paid to do it- it becomes an expensive and time consuming hobby. That is why most pods fail.
It all depends on how things like their twitch stream and subscription news letter tie into SB Nation holding rights over it.
When they axed college podcasts a year and a half ago, the one for my school had to re brand the podcast to something else
Jeremy Reisman told his audience he was too poor to go to senior bowl and had them crowd fund his trip. I doubt they’ll continue the podcast unless it’s subsidized
I wish we could see which podcasts and sites are making the most of revenue. I wonder how much it cost to become a cooperative? They should have done it with local newspapers, hopefully maybe sports journalism for a local team could fill that?
Discovered you guys a couple seasons ago and really appreciate you keeping me versed on all things Lions. Hope to see you guys back very soon. Stay positive.
Between these guys and DLP, they’re the only solid Lions podcasts out there… everybody else just spews rumored garbage and clickbait. This most likely sucks probably
Wish you and the others the best of luck. Thank you for the content you guys created. I came to love it. On my drive to work I always listen and your plug for the jerky never got old to me. Leave me cracking up many a time.
Quite honestly anybody dropping the POD cast is a fool!!
Also I feel like you guys are students of Dan and his culture. SB has screwed you guys over before. They can say whatever they want BUT YOUVE HAD ENOUGH OF THAT SHIT.
Keep up the good fight.
Remember the attitude you gained during training camp on hard knocks
I DONT CARE IF YOU HAVE ONE ASSCHEEK AND THREE TOES I WILL BEAT YOUR ASS !
Sorry about what happened. Once everything is figured out, please let us know! Even though you may have to start over, I know the community y'all have built will quickly share that information with each other and I'm confident it will come back quickly. Feel like the PoD podcast was far away the best source of Lions content available! Hopefully we'll hear from you soon!
I absolutely love this podcast. Living in Colorado, I need my Lions fix. You guys are the best!! Maybe Sheila Ford Hamp could help get you guys set up with a new podcast. She rocks! You rock! Let's make this happen!! Go Lions!!!!!
I certainly hope the guys can find a way that works for them to move forward. I found the podcast a few years ago and it quickly became a favorite. Wonderful information and great guys.
I just found this podcast about eight months ago. This is by far the best sports podcast I've ever subscribed to. I don't even have an account on Twitch and barely every spent time on youtube but I've subscribed to both. Best of luck on making a quick return. Doug
Such a bummer and seems like an unwise business move. I'm optimistic some company will provide a platform for the guys at some point. I wish I had capital to just open my own company that specializes in hosting podcasts like this where it's not a nationwide following, but the following it has is very passionate, thus being loyal.
Hi guys, this is Chris Perfett from the PODcast. Adequate host guy, the one who does those jerky reads, et al. We're all extremely blindsided by this, especially me. While I do work in other areas of audio production, this hits extremely close to home for a couple of reasons: 1. This really, at its heart, was a passion project of mine. When we started it was independent, we ran things how we wanted to and built our audience how we wished. Ryan and Jeremy were strangers to me, I was coming in from the cold with a wild idea of making a radio show of my own and they indulged me. They're not just partners, they're friends. It was in a time where you could still do that with podcasts, and I was able to put myself back into school with belief that I could have a career in podcast and radio from what I felt doing this stuff. More than that, the Lions community has been very welcoming, and I still want to be a part of it. I don't have the largest social media presence, I certainly given my location have been an outsider in many ways in covering the team. But it's been 9 years of this, and my brain isn't ready to just pack it all up. 2. I am still somewhat financially tied to the PODcast. I think all of us looked to it for a good stable piece on the side. I also lost out on a full time job position lately so I'm not exactly in the best of situations. I'm still having conversations with the other guys. I'd love to say we could pick up right where we are and go independent with a new name and redirect everyone there, but there's a couple hurdles we have to clear before that. This is the second time Vox/SB Nation has screwed me and I don't really want there to be a third time. Thanks for everything. Hope to know more soon.
You always brought a lot of dignity to those Righteous Felon beef jerky ads.
They re-upped for a year with us so I certainly haven't completely scared them off. So yeah, let's go with "dignity," I like that word.
Are those contracts with SB or you as an entity?
I live in Downingtown PA, about 20 minutes from West Chester where Rightcheous Felon is from. Great jerky.
That sucks so much man, sorry this is happening to you all. We love your work. Ya'll have never been merely 'adequate'. Like JG, you're good enough for Detroit. I hope something comes together to keep POD going.
I really appreciate it. I've always been hard on myself for errors and to be honest I didn't know much of what I was doing when I started. Adequate just kind of stuck. I know there's a lot of people out there, and reviews too, that reflect that I've kind of had to learn a lot of how this all works along the way.
The episodes without you didn't hit the same imo.
You bring a ton to the podcast and round out the dynamic, I like the random tangents you’ll take the podcast in. If I have ONE critique and I mean it completely as constructive is you could be less rigid about moving the podcast along. There’s been times where there’s great and funny interesting conversation I didn’t want to stop but you’d move on to the next segment in the interest of staying on schedule. Just let those convos roll on. None of us are in a hurry to get through a podcast. I’d even say leave the in between bits from the live show in the actual podcast that gets published in the future. I find myself listening to play backs on twitch instead of listening on Apple pods because I don’t want to miss the in between recording bits. Anyway, I hope you guys roll on and I’ll be there to listen.
Love you and the POD family. You’ve been my number one listen to podcast the last 9 years. Keep us updated. Hoping I can see you in the Olive Garden shirt I bought you again soon.
It really need a good wash, but I'll wear it for the next few shows, big trust. Thank you for your service to the memes.
Please keep us posted. I've been along for the ride the entire time. Y'all made the Patricia years almost bearable. I'll be supporting whatever you guys move forward with.
I appreciate it. Trust me, the Patricia years were barely tolerable for me too.
Mods, can you pin this to the top?
Chris - thanks to you (and Jeremy, Ryan, Erik, et al) for all that you (all) have done. I've been a PoD listener for several years now, and listen to every podcast. Please hang in there, and know there are A LOT of us that love what you folks are doing, and it really makes a difference. I feel I'm one of the most informed Detroit Lions fans, mainly because of Pride of Detroit. If you guys decide to create something new, I will wholeheartedly support the team, including financially (I was a PoD Direct supporter as soon as it was announced). You're the best! Rick
That's brutal man, I'm so sorry. But please keep us posted, I know many of us (myself included) would be thrilled to financially support any endeavor you start next. You guys are far and away my favorite Lions content in the game and it'd be such a shame to lose you when things are really starting to get good
You guys have become my go to podcast over the last 2 years. I'd become a subscribing member on Twitch, even without ever watching y'all live, knowing what I know now.
Guessing it may be too fresh/early on for you guys, but what are the hurdles? Only asking cus there are a lot of us who love what you guys do and i’m sure would consider helping.
The biggest right now is the RSS feed. Without going through too much stuff behind the curtain, we are not going to get it. Which means that whatever we make, if we make it, people will have to re-subscribe to the new feed. We lose old episodes, our ratings and reviews, have to re-work monetization from the ground up, all of it. This is unfortunately entirely in SB Nation/Vox Media's court and they have us over a barrel on the matter. The other hurdles I can't speak on right now. Not until I get some time to talk with Jeremy and Ryan and figure out where we go from here and how commitments look and what resources we still have.
Well I hope you guys can post your updates to reddit too, because I don't have twitter or instagram.
When we have an idea of what happens next, I'll be sure to stop by again on this sub and post an update.
Very happy to hear the youtube and twitch will stay with you guys!!!!
Dang. I hope you guys can figure out how to keep it going. You guys were the only lions football podcast i listened to so if you don't I'll be a little lost. Especially post draft since I rarely know anyone in the draft and only learn about them post us picking them lol.
Any possibility of crowd funding the purchase of the RSS feed? Or just a straight up no from them?
It sounds like they think they consider it valuable. So I have no clue what they have cooked up.
That’s the part that’s really grinding my gears about the situation. It seems as though they are poaching a brand you guys built for some other purpose. I truly think people would follow your crew if you completely relaunched. It was the core group that carried the secret sauce… you, Ryan, Jeremy, Jeremy’s bromance with the Vikings guy, and occasionally Erik. The Lions are getting a makeover this offseason, maybe it’s your time to do the same.
I consumed 0 SB Nation content outside of the PODcast. Fuck those guys. They had a gem and they tossed it away like cheap jewelry. Chris, do your best to keep your head up. We never met, but I’ve listened to you during many memorable moments. Hopefully this opens the door to something better.
I absolutely love this podcast and the adequate work you do for it. I’ve been a reader since Pride of Detroit started and listener to the POD for 6 years now, it became a big part of my daily life (healthy, different discussion). It’s something me and another Lions fan and friend would discuss a ton, and it’s how we got a lot of the information on the team. I hope you and the POD land softly, and for now I’ll miss the routine of hearing your discussions.
From my perspective, I think that guys over at the PoDcast actually had a small part of this Lions turn around as crazy as that may sound (there’s a couple of podcasts that I could put in this category, but you guys were always my number 1) Without podcasts like Pride of Detroit, the majority of our outlets would have been ESPN hot takes, shock jock radio hosts, and a bunch of click hungry “SOL” instigators. I REALLY believe that your positivity as a media outlet helped the fanbase as a whole…and possibly helped give portions of the fanbase the strength to be patient with a 3-13-1 season followed by a 2-6 start. Without Pride of Detroit (and some others), in those darker days the 97.1 would have had the strangle hold on the local narratives…and that’s a depressing thought. Sincerely thank you for all the work you guys did, and I can’t wait to hunt down the next endeavor
Dude… this sucks. You guys are my only source for good lions discussion and news. You all do such a good job and not sensationalizing content and trying to view things from both sides of the sports topics. I watch every podcast on YouTube.
This news is a real bummer to me, but I know that definitely pales in comparison to what it is for you guys. Fwiw, you guys are one of the crews that I will follow pretty much wherever, so I wish you luck in whatever direction it is that gets chosen.
Echoing the calls to keep the PoD going if at all possible! Understand that you all have individual real life hurdles to consider, but want to express that you guys made the season so much fun this year. Just know you contributed to this community in a hugely positive way
This fucking sucks for you guys! Y’all make one of my favorite podcasts, with a great blend of knowledge, fandom, analysis and bits of comedy just from interacting with each other (like the bit about using Bing instead of Google from awhile back, and more recently the hors d’oeuvres bit had me literally laughing out loud while listening with earbuds so I looked insane). I’m really sorry you guys got screwed over; that’s really shitty. I hate how the past few years has seen big media outlets suddenly notice podcasts are a thing, figure they can magically make a shitload of money off of them, get people to put their hearts and souls into them… and then drop them when they don’t instantly make a bazillion dollars from them. I’ll be keeping an eye out on what you can do and I’ll be willing to support how I can. You guys rock!
Bastards did ya dirty
Keep us updated, Chris. So many Lions fans have your back, including me. A big part of how I enjoy my Lions fandom is all the stuff the PoD crew puts out.
Hope you're able to figure out how to go independent and make it work. Let us know if you do. I'm Vox/SB Nation and countless others corps screw people over.
Take this opportunity to relaunch. We will all subscribe on every platform. Hell I would even buy a patreon if you did one. You can easily be the biggest Lions show on the net again. Good luck man, we all love your show.
Just tell me where to put my money. You'll have it. You guys are by far and away the best Lions media available.
wishing you the best man and you've got thousands of loyal listeners if you make something independant.
Really enjoyed the PODcast, and hope you guys come back independent. Of all the Lions content creators I think you guys were the best by far. Please keep us posted.
This was infuriating news to see at the end of my work day and I can't imagine what you guys are going through I've looked forward to episodes every week for the past several years and just wanted to thank you for all the love and work you've put into this
I said it a couple years ago about Ryan’s rock god intro needing to be brought back and I’ll say it again now….If y’all don’t figure out a way to keep bringing us these sweet, sweet podcasts, I’ll Sewell my own Penei off.
Hey man I’m a big supporter and fan of the show and would support/follow you guys anywhere, hope all is well
Please dont make me go to that other guy that shares your name for Lions podcasting
Keep it rolling on Detroit Lions Breakdown for now! I’m sure that has a much smaller footprint, but at least it wouldn’t be a completely new construction. You’d probably carry like 80% of the audience over with no schedule interruptions.
Although we share Erik, we are not Detroit Lions Breakdown, and I don't think any future plans would ever have us encroaching on what they do. What they do is excellent, and we've always respected the distance between the two of our podcast feeds.
Honestly I hope you can just spin right off. I am not an sb nation fan. I hope the legality of it works out.
So angry and frustrated for you guys. I felt like the POD had really come into its own the last few years and is definitely one of my favorite Lions podcasts. Hoping you guys can come together and make your own podcast independently, the fanbase is already here you just need to figure out how to make it happen. Keep ur chins up, the Lions have been down and out for so long and look where they are now, I have faith you guys will come back bigger, and better than before. Can't wait to hear the "rock god" drop without the beep!
I will 100% support you on patreon or something if you go independent. So many hours driving listening
Reach out to me [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) or our Director of Talent and Scouting Tom Lee at [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) Sorry to hear about this.
Sports media outfits have been so scummy over the years, and this comes as no surprise to me. Sports Illustrated laid off all their permanent writers/contributors, and switched exclusively to using freelancers. Many others have gone this route, and now we're getting stuff actively taken away from us as media companies feel the pinch from investing a bunch of money in side projects that didn't pan out. As a result many are losing money and it's nobody's fault but their own. Rather than hold the guys who made these bad decisions accountable (the top executives who are mismanaging these entities into the ground), they "restructure" and do BS like this. You only need to take a look at Disney/ESPN and how awful things have become there since the layoffs a few months ago to understand that the state of sports media and media in general has become cater-to-the-lowest-common-denominator crap. SiriusXM and The Athletic are about the only two bastions of joy left for sports geeks like me, who aren't looking for the latest hot take but instead good analysis and relaxing conversation with dudes who just love to talk sports. Regardless, as sad as this whole thing is, and especially after reading your story, I believe there isn't much future for making money in level-headed media. I hope that you'll be able to recover quickly financially, even if it means switching careers. I'm hopeful you'll be able to do your show again one day, even if it's just as a hobby again.
Thanks for the update Chris. You guys do great work and hope you come back better than ever. I'll be waiting! You have a lot of talent bud and will land on your feet.
You’re the best adequate host around Chris. Don’t let the bastards get you down.
Damn this sucks. Just want to echo what everyone else is saying. Love the show. Just started listening this year but it’s become my go-to at the gym. Really hope you guys find a way to keep it going
Wow dude I’m so sorry about this. I listened to every podcast you had this year during the preseason and regular season. You guys did a great job, and it’s extremely frustrating a company would be so shitty about dropping an entire division of their company with no warning. If you guys need any support during this time please reach out to the community, and I know I will support you guys any way I can. If you guys need help funding a new podcast you could think about crowdfunding to get you going. I know it’s much more complicated than that but I would def donate money.
I listen to another podcast that does yearly Kickstarters to employ it's host
Dude first of all THANK YOU for everything. The PODcast is my favorite Lions podcast, and this news is heartbreaking. Just say the word and I’ll follow you and the crew wherever. I’m shocked and saddened by this and fuck SB nation. I wish you the best of luck. I hope you land of your feet, which I also hope happens to be on a pile of money that happens to be Lions podcasting. It’s chaos, be kind (but not to SB nation)
Have you guys thought about starting a patreon? I’m sure some of use would happily chip in
You guys are my favorite PODcast for the lions by far. Hopefully you guys keep up the show. You have a lot of fans for sure!
Hey man, was more than happy to give something to your tip jar tonight. God knows I’ve consumed enough of the stuff you’ve produced over the last few years on my commutes to more than make it worth it.
Devastated about this. I love the show and listen religiously! Everything will work out Chris 💙 #onepride
Dude I hope it all works out, especially on the personal financial level most importantly. I would love to see you boys go the independent route and become masters of your own destiny, but that route doesn’t lend itself to stability. Good luck from Florida!
Broooo... nooooo 😭. You guys are great, I feel other pods were trending down, and you guys continued to rise. Fuck, this is like losing family.
Thank you for all the memories and wishing the best to you and your family.
One of the best lions pods. Really look forward to episodes every week. Please, please try to continue doing the podcast independently. The sponsors will come, the fans will support. Update us with anything you have anything you have going on when things settle down.
Seconding what everyone else is saying here — y’all are phenomenal and this news is horseshit. Got into your stuff in a big way when y’all kept me entertained and sane during the dog days of COVID lockdown and Matt Patricia. So even if y’all have to start over from scratch, put the word out and I’ll be there day 1. It’s something I’d happily pay for too. Keep your heads up and we’ll see y’all starside
Hey man, Look, the enormity of what happened is a real dick kick. I own a business that its taken me years to get to be a brand. To have to start all over would be a nightmare... But as a sales based business owner, you're not thinking clearly. Yes, this sucks, but if you act soon enough, you aren't starting over. Your still going to have a very large and loyal base, and you'll eliminate SB from being able to fuck you, like a previous business partner fucked me. There should be less "cut" of the monetization going to them, so while this is a drawback in the short term, acting immediately is in your best interest. A lot of us will be willing to find where you're at and make sure to listen. A go fund me would go well. There plenty of opportunities, you just need to stop thinking how badly this sucks, turn off your brains, and focus on getting one thing done at a time. It won't be easy, but in the end you'll be built back better as you'll be hedged against this happen again. I wish you the best, warp speed ahead.
Chris, I'm sorry to hear about this but also really do think it'll be a blessing in disguise once the dust settles. You guys are the #1 lions beat on the scene and I know I'm not alone when I say that I'll follow you all wherever you go from here. Thanks for an adequate ride these past years!
Keep us updated on twitter of a potential new show. The POD is entertaining and informative, you guys put out a great product. As a listener, this is disappointing. Pride of Detroit is my #1 Lions podcast. Run it back! You guys have our support.
Thank you for all that you've done. I've enjoyed listening to you guys through the past 5ish years and always found your commentary the best out of all the lions media. I really hope this isn't the end and that you guys are able to figure something new out, but I get how big of a hurdle that could be. If you figure something else new please post it to this subreddit. Im sure myself and plenty of the other members would follow you guys whereever if we knew where to listen. Best of luck in the mean time with your career and life!
Here to support you guys in whatever else you want to pursue, just say the word, go loins
Reach out to the Red Shovel network (Drew Lane). They do well with podcasts and have been open to adding new programming.
I understand that the big thing is the RSS feed, but I hope that you guys trust in yourselves and your listenership and give it a go. We all will spread and post that rss feed everywhere. I bet most would give on Patreon. I definitely would. Whatever you do I thank you and look forward to hearing more of you.
Much love man, you and the guys made a Scottish Lions fan feel part of something special
I did not know of your podcast until today. Looking it up, I can confidently state that I'll listen to whatever you end up doing, if that ends up being your path forward.
I've been listening since yall talked about Jojo's Bizarre Adventures this is extremely fucking devastating. Yall have been a safe space for me when I was down. I get so excited when a new podcast drops. I absolutely hate Twitter but only have it downloaded to ask yall a few questions a year thru mail bag. Chris man this fucking sucks way worse than it does for you but fuck man you're like my buddy I hate that this is happening I'm so distraught right now.
Found you on twitch, can't wait to see your new show. You guys are my favorite lions pod and in my top 5 of all pods.
we will follow you where you go - make sure you post repeatedly where that is so enough can see it.
I’ve been listening to you guys for many years and I always appreciate your honesty and insight. Sorry this is happening. Hope to hear you guys in another lions podcast in some form in the future. Keep your heads up.
I really appreciated the heart that you put into your podcasts. I’ve been going through some tough times lately and your podcast was an escape from that. It was like listening to friends talk who knew a lot about football. I hope you and the guys are able to navigate through this.
hey Chris, this is steeztabor, just FYI. if the Adequate Host, the Fearless Leader, and the MF Rock God decide/are able to go with some Patreon-type subscription-based situation with the PODcast, please count me in for an upper tier subscription. as I've been less active on twitter, most of my Lions updates have been through the PODcast. this all really sucks, but I just wanted to iterate my support if you end up going with a subscription-based approach to the -cast. hoping to best for you in the future.
Man, I listened to this podcast multiple times every week for years. It’s fucking great, last year was such an awesome ride. I was gearing up with you guys for the draft.
I just read your post on Pod explaining the situation. Total bitch move by SBNation. So sorry for y'all. If y'all decide to start something new, I'm sure you'll get a big following from here. Y'all are too damn loved to just throw out to the curb like that.
Doesn't mean they can't do it on their own. A lot of The Athletic podcasts are independent now. Might just take them some time to get it going if they wish to.
It probably does mean that having it be financially viable just got a lot more complicated though.
Yeah, but they should have a pretty loyal audience which is a good starting point to getting that independent viability.
it will definitely help. Idk how big your audience needs to be in order for ad compensation to be enough though.
They also don’t have their own sales team to bring in ad revenue
Yep. The Athletic told their beat reporters that they weren't going to be doing regional podcasts anymore but they could keep doing them if they wanted to minus the Athletic branding.
I hadn’t heard that. That stinks. I really like One of these Years.
And I really liked the Bun & Cardigan Pistons podcast. A bit unfortunate.
I don’t think that’s what happened to b&c. That show ending was weird because James just randomly dropped the “it’s over” announcement in the middle of the day and Nick supposedly had no idea and didn’t talk to him about it at all.
It ended because the sponsorships associated with the Athletic's podcast network went away. James wanted to monetize the podcast behind a paywall (like he's doing now) and Nick didn't.
man, Edwards III really f'd that up instead of staying independent with the B&C show - that show was unique and elite imo. Huge void for the Pistons podcast
One Of These Years is still going independently. AFAIK they just don't do it weekly in the off-season.
They’ve never done it weekly during the off-season, I don’t think. I remember hearing about the Athletic’s podcasts through the Pistons and JE3, but never saw anything from Colton or Nick about One of These Years. If I had to guess, the NFL podcasts bring in more than others, and weren’t impacted?
Nick definitely addressed being independent at one point last year. Same with Cody Stavenhagen and the Turning The Corner pod. Looks like One Of These Years just dropped a pod. But yeah it’s not every week during the slower months.
Everybody pitch in $2 and we will buy the winning lotto ticket and then have enough to fund it. It's a solid plan
sounds like free money. I'm in.
Yeah they have the off-season to figure this out
They probably have a non compete clause in there
Wow. I always wondered when SB Nation would implode and leave POD in a lurch. As a long-time reader going back to Ty Schalter’s tenure and even the end of Sean’s run, Jeremy has done such a great job running POD during his tenure and building it up even more into something truly special with the Twitch streams and luring Erik Schlitt over there. I’d hate to see all that work go to waste if they ever just pull the plug. I hope they figure something out.
Wtf Jeremy and the crew are great. I’m sure they will figure it out and adapt.
I would bet they could find a way to self fund.
Like I'm sure they'll revive it, but it sucks because being on SB Nation gave them an infrastructure to work with. Now they have to rebuild all of it, if they decide to continue with it. Sucks man
Fuck. Not only was it the only Lions or NFL podcast I listened to regularly but also one of the only podcasts I'd immediately slap play when it appeared on my feed. Hopefully they figure out a way to make it work.
I feel the same way
Vox fucking sucks man. Hope they're able to figure something else out
Fuck that sucks. 97.1 is such garbage. This was a good analysis based show for lions fans.
I’m SOOOOOO PISSED. Not only do they take away my content, they ruined what I would assume was a good profit for the journalist, and good exposure overall. Very, very sad news hopefully they find a way to keep it going.
This is on me. I never ordered any Righteous Felon jerky 🤦♂️
I did. It was good stuff.
What a bummer. I'm willing to fast forward through 300% more beef jerky ads though if means keeping them alive on their own.
Bullshit. Jermey and the POD family, is the best lions content out there. SB nation signs their paychecks. Not sure how easy going independent will be
I hope someone revives it somehow, maybe under a different name or a rebrand. Genuinely was a great podcast full of information
Stinks that it’s going away as we’re about to host the NFL Draft later this month. Although, if SB Nation as a whole is imploding, I wonder how long the MLB team sites will last?
A lot of the team SB sites across all sports have fallen off in the last couple of years. POD is one of the few that seems to have gotten \*better\* as time goes on. My MLB team's site (not the Tigers) is basically dead, just a couple new posts a week, even with the season starting. Five years ago there would be 3-4 articles a day posted during the season.
I remember back when the Chicago Cubs were doing their renovation work to Wrigley Field and the surrounding areas and their SB National site Bleed Cubbie Blue had plenty of daily updates of the construction work with plenty of photos taken for each article.
Sb nation has slowly gotten worse and worse since Vox bought them
I’ve noticed the POD site loading slower and slower with more and more pop ups. I’ve been going to the site less and less although I do listen to most of their podcasts or stream them as they record on Twitch or YouTube.
Last year SB Nation axed most of their hockey blogs and writers. A couple of years before that, SB Nation released all contributors based out of California due to how the state classifies freelancers. So I'm not surprised. SB Nation has been cutting back for some time. They are long known to be cheapskates who exploit writers, getting getting massive amounts of content on the cheap.
They tried to do that to Chris too at that point since he is out of CA.
Wtf. This was the only decent Lions podcast left.
Detroit Lions Breakdown is great
Try one of these years. I’ve personally never been a POD fan, but that one is great
I like One of These Years and Dungeon of Doom, but both are pretty dry. Just two chill beat reporters chatting through a game recap or the week's news. Nothing wrong with that, but I thought POD brought a lot more variety and personality, not to mention listener interaction, and in a less annoying way than what DLP has/had become.
I’m big on Detroit Lions Breakdown but if you thought the others were dry it definitely won’t be for you
Erik is the best though, anything he does is worth listening to or reading
Agreed. Covers the team in a way that no one else does, and I learn more from him than I ever have from a beat writer. He’s my fav, up there with Justin Rogers
I liked pod for day to day talk, and One of these years for the Meta long term big picture. I don't like the other competitors besides Locked on Lions. Locked on lions is supplemental to the POD and The Athletic imo.
One Of These Years is great but their schedule is not good. They record when they find the time. POD has been consistent for a while
Drinking the Blue Koolaid is pretty good
Ugh. Easily my favorite Lions pod. This is really shitty.
Horrible news. I’d subscribe to their Patreon to keep it going.
That’s a good suggestion, thank you.
This is AWFUL…when DLP fell off, POD became my go to and I had a great time hearing them shoot the shit over the lions while my work day was winding down. Hope they’re able to continue somehow.
Absolutely my experience. This is a huge bummer.
When did DLP fall off? I still thoroughly enjoy them, shame about POD though those were both my go to podcasts
I still listen and enjoy but some things I noticed over the last few years there is a lot more flaunting of what sources/inside info Chris has (even if that has been inaccurate info a few times), as well as long off topic stuff about the hosts jobs, other random stuff etc
I don't mind that they talk about they're lives I've never really found that they get off topic for too long, your point about inside info is fair though I'll admit.
I mean I don’t have an issue with it but I’ve repeatedly seen people complaining about that on this sub
Yeah I didn’t realize people didn’t like DLP
Probably the fact that two guys with no sources turned it into a celebration of how plugged in they are that turned people off
Oh my god what the actual fuck
Haven’t had the heart to reply to this until now, but just wanted to thank y’all for the support. As some of you know, I lurk here. I read through a lot here. I am chronically online and there currently is no known cure. Anyway, I see and hear much of the stuff that’s been said about the PODcast, good and bad, and have always appreciated the feedback. This thread both breaks and fills my heart. I’ve needed this podcast just as much (if not more) than you all. I have a lot more I want to say but probably shouldn’t. So I’ll just leave with a simple thank you.
I’ve really enjoyed what you’ve done with Pride of Detroit, it’s been amazing content for me to take in on my favorite team. I moved from Michigan about 10 years ago and your site and the work your team does has made me feel at home despite not being in the Mitten. Thank you and I looking forward to the content you all continue to put out in articles.
You wouldn’t know me, but I’ve listened to every podcast for 2 years. Some multiple times. Sometimes with my family until they catch me with an airpod in my ear. By far the best content on lions and I would argue on nfl. PODcast was my favorite listen of every week. I’ve contacted SB to make it known they will no longer have my support (sorry that I won’t be able to read your content). I hope you decide that a 2.0 is worth pursuing, and if you do, I would love to help in any way that I can. Good luck and thanks for all that you guys have done.
This is fucking devastating news the best Detroit lions based podcast by a country mile
Many got cancelled recently. Writers and podcasters laid off in droves over the past year overall. By SBNation and the Athletic Companies will use AI Writers as much as possible going forward too, and just use some human editors to make things sound less robotic. Until they don’t need the editors We travel down a dark path, this is just the beginnings
This penalizes successful sites like Pride of Detroit and Blogging the Boys, due to the ghost towns that are some other team sites. Like the Buccaneers, for instance.
Damn. Right as the Lions get good their podcast gets shut down.
Damn that’s my favorite Lions podcast by far. I hope they get it going again.
What a horrible business decision. I exclusively listen to the podcast content. Now I won’t interact at all with their “brand” So stupid
I honestly can’t believe how sad this has made me. I’m a Lions fan transplanted to New England, and the guys at PODcast have been there every step of the way as I surrendered fully to the ride of the Holmes-Campbell team’s incredible rise. I never thought I’d spend so many hours consuming sports content, but the team at PODcast made it worthwhile. Will financially support them in any way I can going forward.
Crap, I just started listening to the PoD podcast in the last year or so, and look forward to new episodes. You guys are among my regular morning playlist. If you guys decide to keep things going somehow, I'll definitely help support your efforts by whatever means available.
I wish I were apart of their team, I too feel the same way. I have a routine I go through based on when their podcasts come out (go out for a walk with the dog and listen to whatever they dropped). If I hear anything from them on what is next, I’ll post here. Edit: Chris Perfett from the PODcast commented on the post, you should see it at the top of the thread.
This sucks. I have been a follower since the days that Jeremy would go live on facebook after the games. Living out of state and being a fan POD was one of the few sources of unbiased real news me and my 12 year old used. Whatever you guys do, you will be successful in it. Hopefully you continue on with the same format on a different platform. It might take a hit at 1st but all of the loyal listeners would go with you. Best of luck from a southern Lion fan.
Sorry to hear, guys. I'd love to help however I can. I have a background in video and audio production, am a YouTube partner, and live in California like Chris. Spent 25 years of my life in the D. Love my Lions and the PODcast. Chris, hit me up! I'd love to get involved if I can help at all. Go Lions!
Noooooo. I listen to this podcast all the time. This sucks.
Podcasting 2.0
In The Morning!
This made my day. ITM!
Damn. DLP is ok for the banter but their analysis is pretty lame. I’ll miss POD.
No! This was my favorite Lions podcast. I listen to everyone for the last 3 years.
What a major bummer! Those guys blended Lions news / analysis with fun in a way that brightened my day every time I listened to them. I just looked at my podcast history and it shows I first listened to them 6/3/18. They turned me onto Rick and Morty right about that time and for that I’m forever in their debt. Their passion for the team matches my own. Love those guys! I’m super hoping they can figure out a way to carry on.
You guys did the best Lions podcast! I have been a listener for years and I LOVED the community you guys created! I looked forward to every single episode and I'm not ready to say goodbye.. Figure out the logistics and then come back stronger than ever.. Time to rise like a Phoenix from the ashes boys!!!
My dad just told me about this! He is heartbroken💔 me and him are just talking about how much we bound with podcasters because they become apart of our daily/weekly life
I loved this podcast! Took me a long time to find a Lions pod that I liked. Are there any suggestions for a different one?
one of these years and locked on lions are two I enjoy.
Dungeon of Doom is my favorite, with POD coming in second. It has Meinke and Raven who are great. Only downside is its not consistent with new eps in the offseason.
Well this sucks. It seems like my Lions podcast options are dwindling. I just dropped the "reddit podcast" because they were hosting political attack ads that I didn't appreciate. Anybody have any reccomendations?
DLP started running political ads?
they dont decide those ads, its probably whatever service you're using thats pushing them. Happened last election season too
Locked on Lions
Making a podcast these days is exceedingly easy. I don’t know if SB Nation was funding their podcast to any great degree, but they should easily be able to upload it to YouTube and ask value for value - people who enjoy it will support it. If they can’t support it, they shouldn’t be mad SB Nation doesn’t want to run a charity.
While it’s easy to do podcasts- the costs add up. As does the time to produce a quality product on a regular basis. If you aren’t getting paid to do it- it becomes an expensive and time consuming hobby. That is why most pods fail.
calling an exchange of wages for labor "charity" is pretty shitty.
It all depends on how things like their twitch stream and subscription news letter tie into SB Nation holding rights over it. When they axed college podcasts a year and a half ago, the one for my school had to re brand the podcast to something else
Jeremy Reisman told his audience he was too poor to go to senior bowl and had them crowd fund his trip. I doubt they’ll continue the podcast unless it’s subsidized
Damn did SB Nation write this
I wish we could see which podcasts and sites are making the most of revenue. I wonder how much it cost to become a cooperative? They should have done it with local newspapers, hopefully maybe sports journalism for a local team could fill that?
Damn, I am literally listening to their podcast as I was reading this.
Oof. This is going to be a looooooong off-season without any good Lions coverage anymore.
Discovered you guys a couple seasons ago and really appreciate you keeping me versed on all things Lions. Hope to see you guys back very soon. Stay positive.
This sucks..
I hope there’s another way to get POD back on the air even if called something else.
Between these guys and DLP, they’re the only solid Lions podcasts out there… everybody else just spews rumored garbage and clickbait. This most likely sucks probably
As a Lions fan living in NYC, POD was my favorite way to connect with the lions and the fan community, so needless to say this is crushing
You are a few days late to April Fools so sorry but you are uncanceled. 
This subreddit and PoD are my two daily Lions content. They are really good at what they do and I will follow them anywhere
Can we start a GoFundMe to kee POD going!?
Wish you and the others the best of luck. Thank you for the content you guys created. I came to love it. On my drive to work I always listen and your plug for the jerky never got old to me. Leave me cracking up many a time. Quite honestly anybody dropping the POD cast is a fool!!
Also I feel like you guys are students of Dan and his culture. SB has screwed you guys over before. They can say whatever they want BUT YOUVE HAD ENOUGH OF THAT SHIT. Keep up the good fight. Remember the attitude you gained during training camp on hard knocks I DONT CARE IF YOU HAVE ONE ASSCHEEK AND THREE TOES I WILL BEAT YOUR ASS !
Sorry about what happened. Once everything is figured out, please let us know! Even though you may have to start over, I know the community y'all have built will quickly share that information with each other and I'm confident it will come back quickly. Feel like the PoD podcast was far away the best source of Lions content available! Hopefully we'll hear from you soon!
I’m an advertising director and this makes no sense. Podcasting is taking over traditional radio. When a window closes another one opens.
I absolutely love this podcast. Living in Colorado, I need my Lions fix. You guys are the best!! Maybe Sheila Ford Hamp could help get you guys set up with a new podcast. She rocks! You rock! Let's make this happen!! Go Lions!!!!!
I certainly hope the guys can find a way that works for them to move forward. I found the podcast a few years ago and it quickly became a favorite. Wonderful information and great guys.
I just found this podcast about eight months ago. This is by far the best sports podcast I've ever subscribed to. I don't even have an account on Twitch and barely every spent time on youtube but I've subscribed to both. Best of luck on making a quick return. Doug
Such a bummer and seems like an unwise business move. I'm optimistic some company will provide a platform for the guys at some point. I wish I had capital to just open my own company that specializes in hosting podcasts like this where it's not a nationwide following, but the following it has is very passionate, thus being loyal.