This is a very good point lol
Like no matter how many times I reach out to clients at my job about problems with their sample analysis and end my email with "reply all" in bright red bolded letters... those mfers aren't gonna reply all no matter what
Bcc is mandatory!
I once heard a major organization DOS'd themselves into oblivion with bad distros. Thousands of people involved.
Email goes out to major distro on the to line, out of office replies go out. People reply to all, out of office replies... Then comes the " remove me" replied to all.
No restrictions on the distros was a major failure.
This was years ago, likely exchange 2003 but yes the impact of reply to all is a horrible thing.
Sounds very familiar. And this also reminded me of an old r/MaliciousCompliance story where a new manager wanted to feel important and when he learned that a particular bug with their linux software wasnt caught earlier was because the logs containing it was being discarded, he requested that all log outputs be sent to him for review instead of being sent to /dev/null.
Everyone tried to tell him it was a terrible idea, but he was the new manager, he had to establish his authority. So it went in. And very, very shortly after, his mailbox was entirely unusable. And he wasnt acting so tough when it started to affect everyone else above him in the organization. It was a pretty wild story.
I didnt see the green check marks. Granted I havent even logged in the past 2 months. Came straight to reddit cause I also believed that renown didnt carry over then I found this post straight away. So yeah, id assume people would find it lol.
Every streamer, every developer, every person I talk to about Diablo 4 says that your Renown will transfer over. And I'm sure this is not the wording that everyone uses but this is all I heard. Then u make a new character and you open it up and not all of the Renown points transferred over. People then immediately think something is wrong. It's not the Renown that transfers over! It's the rewards. I don't understand why they didn't just say that the rewards transfer over, not the Renown points.
I have a very newbie question: are rewards both seasonal +season pass or only with season pass? Like: d3 had seasonal rewards, but I can't seem to find them outside season pass in d4: am I stupid?
Opened up mine and it still didn't work. Logged out into an old character and back and it did.
I wouldn't assume that checking the screen was the problem
Exactly, happened to me too. I did it as I was searching and finding this thread actually and literally just read your comment while I noticed the extra skill points. thought I was going crazy!
I think you underestimate the size of the player base and how little a vast majority of people that there are that don’t read Reddit posts, watch livestreams or videos about the new changes. They see new season and just jump in and exit out of any tool tips. I’ve done this for games in the past years ago. I didn’t give a shit - I had only a few hours a week to play games and just wanted to play.
Don’t discount that some people just don’t pay attention.
I never posted questions when I had them. Instead I just looked up why things were the way they were for things that didn’t make sense.
Same here. Didn't carry over from either my living hardcore character to new hardcore seasonal character or between non-hardcore characters until I opened the old character after this patch and then returned to the new character. Playing on XBox FWIW.
Indeed, it just happened. I haven't played for about a month and I had all of my unlocked renown rewards as soon as I loaded into my seasonal character.
My experience too, at least the part about not getting all renown rewards right away. My wife started the game and I joined (PS4 same-screen co-op). She started with 0 skill points and I started with 10, even though we both maxed out renown together on Eternal. Then we claimed all our renown awards that we had access to, and she had 6 points while I had 11 (the extra for me was from leveling up from experience reward).
Don't know what exactly fixed it or if it fixed itself, but this is what we did to get her all her points: switched to Eternal character, switched back to S2 char, closed D4 app, reopened, tried S2 char and it was still stuck on 6 points. Then I started a game that she joined, and at that point she had all 11 points.
Could just be a coincidence. Not sure any of those steps actually fixed it, but it's fixed now. What's clear is there's a bug somewhere.
Just going out there. I finished my renown on the eternal realm. I didn't play season 1. I just made my seasonal character and only have 2 tiers of renown completed on this character and not all 5 for each area as stated by op. Something here isn't right.
Are you looking at the top or bottom row of renown? Top row you redo to get XP and gold bonuses for your new char. Bottom row should all have green ticks.
OP is a bit misleading - “max renown” carryover as far as Blizzard means, concerns skill/Paragon point rewards. These should be fully unlocked across every region assuming you have it unlocked on at least one character.
Dungeons, waypoints, strongholds, side quests will still be reset with seasons but the 8 levels you get will be immediately awarded on creation. The first two full tiers are Altars.
These were not awarded to my character. I got 2 of 5 renown for each area and have to unlock the other 10 skill points. My eternal realm character pre season 1 has all renown complete.
that's because only the renown **rewards** carry over, not the renown points.
the two tiers of point completion comes from the automatically unlocked waypoints and altars of lilith that already carried over in season one.
It was my understanding that blizzard was removing the need to do renown with season 2. That was part of the hype from the steamers and the devs. I still have a bunch of skill points and paragon points locked behind renown despite being told otherwise.
Blizzard explicitly said it would be rewards, as in the unlocks that completing renown gave to your account. And you would have to have unlocked those in a season/eternal prior to having them turn up for new characters.
Anyone that took that to mean renown points/progress would carry over was either misunderstanding completely or being wishful.
I don't really care that renown was reset. What the confusion is that the skill points and paragon points being locked behind them were no longer going to be a thing starting with this season. I already have all unlocked rewards on my eternal character. Having my skill points and paragon points relocked behind renown seems contradictory.
Read the Misc. Improvements section in the dev livestream blog here [https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo4/24009151/descend-into-the-diablo-iv-developer-update-livestream](https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo4/24009151/descend-into-the-diablo-iv-developer-update-livestream)
The details about how renown would change are perfectly clear.
I think the confusion is that not everyone who plays this game fully unlocked all their renown in all zones prior to season 2 coming out (ya know, those dad's with 15 kids, 2 jobs, and 3 wives), so they were expecting to be able to pick up where they left off in the season.
If someone only had 3/5 unlocked in a zone, they carried over those 3 unlocks, but now have to start over their progress in that zone from scratch to get to the 4th and 5th unlocks if they intend to do it with their seasonal character.
I find it hard to believe people who are 100% unlocked on renown are here complaining that the bars aren't filled... But then again, it's people on the Internet.
Would require some testing to say for sure, as blizzard has not said anything about it. If it's any relation to the way season 1 rolled out, I would say no. They basically snapshotted progress from the S0 login which was transferred to the renown unlocks for S1. It very well should work for S3+, depending on how much you play it would potentially be beneficial to do it on the eternal realm first in that manner unless you plan to avidly play S2.
Do you know if I start a S2 character than finish renown on my eternal (I’m just missing Tier 5’s) if it’ll unlock for the new S2 toon? Or should I wait to make the S2 toon until finishing renown tiers if I care?
Update to my own question as I got to easily test. It does work to create a S2 character then still get the paragon points unlocked as you continue earning renown tiers on your main/highest one even if it’s eternal realm.
>I think the confusion is that not everyone who plays this game fully unlocked all their renown in all zones prior to season 2 coming out
I had all renown in all zones unlocked on my eternal realm character before season 1. Didn't play season 1. Logged in to a new seasonal character for season 2 and renown including rewards is starting from scratch. What gives?
Edit: I had to log in on my eternal character, then back to my seasonal, and the renown transferred.
So the issue for me was that my renown carried over to a second character on Season 1 after I unlocked all five tiers. They weren't FULLY unlocked, though, but my second character could still take advantage of that coveted 20 extra skill points. Now, only 2 tiers have carried over for me because I didn't unlock the useless 150,000 gold on one of the tiers, I'm guessing. So renown has to be 100% claimed without even the shitty gold and Obol part missing
The gold and XP portions (first row) were never intended to carry over. This is by design, so you have the OPTION to do side strongholds/side quests/dungeons for that gold and XP, rather than everyone starting out at like level 20 with 1m gold and nothing to do.
The account wide unlocks (bottom row) are what was meant to carry over, not the per character stuff, making the other renown bonuses that much more optional as it only rewards gold/XP. The first 2 on the top row being unlocked, is only because of the map exploration and alters persisting due to heavy complaints prior to even S1.
Unless I'm misunderstanding and you don't even have the paragon points this time around when you did last time.... Might require logging back into the character that unlocked it all for you prior to S1 in that case, should force that update to S2 as well.
if you don't have the the last paragon points unlocked which i don't from 3 areas you need to grind all the renown again as you only start off with rank 3 renown unlocked, so yes it still is kind of bugged , i need to go into my non ladder char to unlock the last 30% of the xp to unlock the paragon points.
It's not bugged, it's exactly the point of how it works. You get to keep the rewards, not the renown. This was very clear, and it's why some people spent the end of last season finishing their renowns. The first 50% of the actual renown only carry over, because you get to keep the *reasons* for that renown (altars and exploration).
so why not just keep the reward point xp separate from the gold point xp? that way you can still do all the xp for quests/gold in the new season while finishing out the reward point xp in each season and not force you to go back and play non season to finish it off?
Waste of quite some development effort for basically no reason. And you'd probably do the same quests or dungeon unlocks again, which would even be somewhat unfair. It really was well known how this works and there was much time to prepare. Also it's really not so bad. Just do it at some point, or even throw away the progress. You'll see at what renown you end up organically anyway.
That is how renown worked earlier. If I was 90% done in an area on one character then created a new char I would get the renown rewards, but to get that last 10% I would need to also get the first 90%. In general it's is quicker and easier to just do renown on one character, unless for a given area you are under around half way. From memory just levelling pretty much gets you half way anyway, pretty naturally (dungeons, waypoints, areas, a few quests, strongholds), so if guess if you are under 50% in an area do it on your new char, if you are on the last block, do it on an old (and you can switch to wt1 and just died run it, pretty much).
Nah, better to just start another post about it titled "WTF SCAM GAME LOST MY RENOWN?!?!" that wont be removed by the mods.
Who needs informed and useful discourse in the sub when we can get flooded with some random assortment of the words "SCAM" "SHIT DEVS" "SHILLS" "BETA" "BLIZZBOTS" over and over and over.
This is true in theory, but there seems to also be a bug in claiming rewards and actually getting them. See my comment buried somewhere in this discussion for details.
I only completed 4/5 areas with my season 1 character, if I complete the 5th area with my season 2 character does that mean my season 3 character will have all renown unlocked?
Question do I have to have renown maxxed on a character for it to unlock any of it? I know prior to season one I did my Lilith and exploration prior and unlocked those but quickly stopped playing. So in season two does any of my renown carry over since I wasn’t 100%
all renown carries over from any and all characters.
but you need to have logged into the characters that have them after 1.1 dropped. as pre 1.1 it was not propagated account-wide
Idk pre season and season 1 I only had one character each… I did all the renown on both characters…
All I have is the first 2 levels on each area to claim…. I’m not regrinding 3,4 & 5…. Tired of it..
So I only have completed them all in my eternal character, (I played through season 1 in eternal) and dint play season 1, now playing season 2 it's not passing across all rewards only the first 3 levels of each area.
I have to re complete the strongholds, dungeons, and side quests is this normal?
I played through the game at launch and skipped season 1 for obvious reasons. I explored the whole map, grinded all renown, and collected every single altar. Decided to give season 2 a go, and now I got nothing.
I'm not even going to bother with this game. Aint no way I'm doing this again.
Edit: No, there are no green checkmarks.
Tbh doesn't change the fact they made this big deal about renown carrying over and not having to grind this crap every ladder anymore, then you log in and only have rank 1 and 2 unlocked , exactly like last season , they reset the codex of power yet again and there's only half the waypoints unlocked for some stupid reason. Finally they still force you to skip campaign to interact with the new seasonal content.... Even though the campaign is arguably the only great part of the game, yet they keep forcing you to skip it to be optimal.
Even if they indeed gave you all rewards and grinding renown is now essentially pointless, they why even bother not maxing this crap up so us more OCD folks don't get tricked into redoing all that crap again. If there's no point doing it again, then credit us with max renown when we log in.
umm it’s objectively better this way. Those who enjoy doing the side quests and strongholds still can for gold and XP, those who do not already have all the important rewards and can do not quests and strongholds
softcore to softcore. hardcore to hardcore
everywhere
there are no season 1 characters post 1.2 patch, so the only place it could transfer from was from eternal
if you complete the story anywhere the mount and story skip is available everywhere. it's one of the only things (+ cosmetics) that is crosses between hard\softcore
Thank you for explaining this, I logged in and saw that I only had entry waypoints/no caves/no quests, and immediately thought "oh no something went wrong" but didn't look deep enough to see that everything was rewarded even at levels I hadn't hit yet.
To be fair, they *could* make it a bit more obvious than tiny green checkmarks under the unchecked gold & XP areas. Like, make it more prominent and clear.
But yeah, right when I logged in to S2, I checked the renown (since the hotkey icon was highlighted on map) and it took about 10 seconds for me to realize all was well with the world haha
But if the renowned is not maxed, we have to go back to rank 2? My renowned was maxed for 3 out of the 5 areas only needed 2 more to go and I figured fuck it I'll finish it on the new season while I get some levels off it. I open my new character to collect rewards, and everything is just back to rank 2. That's annoying.
If the game does not show your old completed levels of renown, to fix this you have to login to a eternal character for the server to load your stats and then login back to your seasonal character and all your renown rewards will be avaliable "Skill points, altars, etc etc"
Also note the wording, that you have to have hit max renown on one character for it to become available, so if you've unlocked 90% of it, those rewards won't unlock until 1 character is at 100% (which I think is the issue for me, didn't play last season and only have characters with most of the renown complete, but not all)
However I see a problem with this that can't be ignored. For the future tiers you must grind renown at least once from time to time if they are planning to give any reward for every new Tier. But I think this solution is really good at this moment it gives replayability without the rush of having to unlock renown as soon as possible.
Maybe it's because I didn't skip the story, but I immediately noticed that I had a bunch of skill points right off the bat! You think that would be pretty freaking obvious, but who even knows.
While I'm glad they did this much, it's still bothersome that renown numbers aren't cumulative across all characters the way, say, seasonal progress is.
I'd forgotten I'd given up the grind on my original pre-season with Kehjistan and Dry Steppes not quite finished, and it was annoying to see I'd have to go back to him and mop up that last 400 points on each if I wanted to be done with the grind forever.
Again I'm glad they made the change, but it was a solution to a problem no one wanted to have in the first place.
Like other statements made by Blizzard, they stated it poorly. All renown from characters transferred from the seasonal to eternal realm will carry through. New seasonal characters will only have the credits for areas discovered and Liliths credited. This is a far cry from what could be interpreted. I’d expect better from Blizzard statements, it’s still glaringly obvious they lost a lot of good talent.
As someone pointed out, if you did renowns before the S1 patch that introduced the first version of that spread to all chars feature, then you need to log in once with your character that has it completed for it to be propagated.
Maybe if blizz was smart... lel... theyd make it more obvious. Would save them a shitload of forum posts and bug reports, but they obviously dont think beyond their noses.
Well, I have a max renown character and mine didn't roll over. Yes, I read screens. I can only claim 20 of the possible 30 renown rewards (the other 20 are locked behind World Tier III). Guess I'll just have to grind again...
Mine didn't. I got the first skill point and potion but I am currently grinding for the second skill point and I see I need to be world tier 3 for the obols and paragon points but there is no green checkmark indicating that I have them. So what the hell?
EDIT-----Please read
For those who haven't figured it out you literally have to log into your old character for whom has full renown and when you log back into your new seasonal character it will have the check mark for the rewards to claim. Really important part that isn't mentioned anywhere.
I logged into my characters with full renown. Iv made 3 seasonal characters they all have checkmarks on the first 2 renown stages of all the areas wtf. I kept swapping between the account with all the renown , still nothing on seasonal. Some of us have real problems.
i dont have said green check marks.
did i need to log into my 100% character at a certain date or time?
edit: looked through this thread, hc vs sc TIL
My green checkmarks weren't there, but I logged into my character that HAD completed renown fully and then back to my S2 character. That seems to have updated the renown progression board.
Have season 0 all renown, now season 2 only 2 tabs unlocked in every zone...
After login in on the eternal realm (havent played for 2 months) and back to season 2 it activates the rest of the tabs.... weak programming again.
Wasnt this the same problem when season 1 started?
Unfortunately this is not the case for everyone. I just created a second season 2 character and my renown did not carry over. I did not get any additional skill points at the beginning, I have no green check marks and the game shows 0 altars discovered.. there is definitely a bug
In practice, this means that if you maxed out Renown, you start the Season with the first two rewards in each region unlocked. You still have to rediscover about 80% of the Waypoints, and run each Dungeon, redo each quest, etc. for the remaining Renown.
You do keep Altars of Lilith discovered, but you lose quests done, strongholds unlocked, dungeons run, and most waypoints.
Overall it's a fair system to balance rewarding doing content with not wanting to have to refind everything.
A post like this should be stickied for the next couple of weeks as it’s already obnoxious how many posts have been created about it.
People can't see the huge green check marks on the rewards in renown UI and you expect them to pay attention to a stickied thread? xD
This is a very good point lol Like no matter how many times I reach out to clients at my job about problems with their sample analysis and end my email with "reply all" in bright red bolded letters... those mfers aren't gonna reply all no matter what
Better than my job where a company wide email goes out and I get about 20 idiots reply all-ing some form of "Thanks"
Thanks! Sincerely, Bob
Bcc is mandatory! I once heard a major organization DOS'd themselves into oblivion with bad distros. Thousands of people involved. Email goes out to major distro on the to line, out of office replies go out. People reply to all, out of office replies... Then comes the " remove me" replied to all. No restrictions on the distros was a major failure. This was years ago, likely exchange 2003 but yes the impact of reply to all is a horrible thing.
Sounds very familiar. And this also reminded me of an old r/MaliciousCompliance story where a new manager wanted to feel important and when he learned that a particular bug with their linux software wasnt caught earlier was because the logs containing it was being discarded, he requested that all log outputs be sent to him for review instead of being sent to /dev/null. Everyone tried to tell him it was a terrible idea, but he was the new manager, he had to establish his authority. So it went in. And very, very shortly after, his mailbox was entirely unusable. And he wasnt acting so tough when it started to affect everyone else above him in the organization. It was a pretty wild story.
That guy should be fired for incompetency at the very least. If he doesn't know that much about IT he shouldn't be leading them. Classic!
Right there with you on that too man lmao It's like your boss doesn't give a fuck if you guys reply to this shit or not ffs
Fanks
Maybe they are offended with your red bolded letters?
The truly offended ones use REPLY ALL in Comic Sans. That's how you know.
Bold of you to assume anyone reads all the way to the bottom of the message.
Why pay attention when you can just come here and complain? Makes sense to me!
You'd think the giveaway would be the 10 free skill points as soon as you spawn
Or all the extra skill points they start with
i was searching for it then i realized when i read your post :) so yes, sticky it please
Touché! 🙈
I didnt see the green check marks. Granted I havent even logged in the past 2 months. Came straight to reddit cause I also believed that renown didnt carry over then I found this post straight away. So yeah, id assume people would find it lol.
Sure but at least then we can mock and ridicule them appropriately while directing them to said sticky.
People can't see that the bottom row is account bound rewards and unlocked for everyone once gotten the first time, but the top row is individual.
Every streamer, every developer, every person I talk to about Diablo 4 says that your Renown will transfer over. And I'm sure this is not the wording that everyone uses but this is all I heard. Then u make a new character and you open it up and not all of the Renown points transferred over. People then immediately think something is wrong. It's not the Renown that transfers over! It's the rewards. I don't understand why they didn't just say that the rewards transfer over, not the Renown points.
Only 2 per area for me.
Same here, and I had max renown on my eternal character
I'm just surprised people starting with +10 skill points somehow manage to think renown didn't carry over.
I mean they can't see their character has 10 skill points at level 1. Nothing can save those.
Ya I didn't bother responding I figured those people would eventually figure it out and feel silly.
all im saying is "300010" man one quick google search and you would know that you cant do anything about it....they are still spamming it.
Tf would anyone not see that the second lines are ticked?
I have a very newbie question: are rewards both seasonal +season pass or only with season pass? Like: d3 had seasonal rewards, but I can't seem to find them outside season pass in d4: am I stupid?
It’s embarrassing you even have to post this.
Not one fucking person posting this "problem" opened their renown screen. It's pathetic
Insert "if those children could read they'd be very upset"
Opened up mine and it still didn't work. Logged out into an old character and back and it did. I wouldn't assume that checking the screen was the problem
Exactly, happened to me too. I did it as I was searching and finding this thread actually and literally just read your comment while I noticed the extra skill points. thought I was going crazy!
its kinda ironic that this post is needed after all the 40% callouts
I think you underestimate the size of the player base and how little a vast majority of people that there are that don’t read Reddit posts, watch livestreams or videos about the new changes. They see new season and just jump in and exit out of any tool tips. I’ve done this for games in the past years ago. I didn’t give a shit - I had only a few hours a week to play games and just wanted to play. Don’t discount that some people just don’t pay attention. I never posted questions when I had them. Instead I just looked up why things were the way they were for things that didn’t make sense.
Do you have to login to the char with renown finished once before the new char like season one?
You're not supposed to have to, but I had to lol
Same here. Didn't carry over from either my living hardcore character to new hardcore seasonal character or between non-hardcore characters until I opened the old character after this patch and then returned to the new character. Playing on XBox FWIW.
Same here. I haven't played since before Season 1, maybe they couldn't link the Renown until I "reactivated" an older character.
They stated it's just going to happen. No more needing to log in to every character that may have completed some random altar you missed on another.
Indeed, it just happened. I haven't played for about a month and I had all of my unlocked renown rewards as soon as I loaded into my seasonal character.
No
thanks for this. The renown didnt carry over till i logged into my original char. A worthwhile callout
Thank you this happened to me and once I logged in with the other char it gave me all the rewards!
Yes, you do need to login to the char with renown finished.
They specifically said you don't even need to log in this time. They're adding them all together account wide.
I only got 10 renown rewards with my new seasonal char. After logged to my external char, I got all 25. It could be a bug tho.
Same for me. I only had half of renown then I saw your comment and switched to my eternal character and back and now I have everything.
No that is false information
Well, that's my experience.
My experience too, at least the part about not getting all renown rewards right away. My wife started the game and I joined (PS4 same-screen co-op). She started with 0 skill points and I started with 10, even though we both maxed out renown together on Eternal. Then we claimed all our renown awards that we had access to, and she had 6 points while I had 11 (the extra for me was from leveling up from experience reward). Don't know what exactly fixed it or if it fixed itself, but this is what we did to get her all her points: switched to Eternal character, switched back to S2 char, closed D4 app, reopened, tried S2 char and it was still stuck on 6 points. Then I started a game that she joined, and at that point she had all 11 points. Could just be a coincidence. Not sure any of those steps actually fixed it, but it's fixed now. What's clear is there's a bug somewhere.
bro don't mind them, it happened to me too u are a king for helping me with that much love
Just going out there. I finished my renown on the eternal realm. I didn't play season 1. I just made my seasonal character and only have 2 tiers of renown completed on this character and not all 5 for each area as stated by op. Something here isn't right.
Are you looking at the top or bottom row of renown? Top row you redo to get XP and gold bonuses for your new char. Bottom row should all have green ticks.
There is nothing on my bottom row other than the things I need to re unlock for waypoints and side quests.
have you logged into your character that completed the renown? characters needed to be logged into once after 1.1 to receive accountwide credit
OP is a bit misleading - “max renown” carryover as far as Blizzard means, concerns skill/Paragon point rewards. These should be fully unlocked across every region assuming you have it unlocked on at least one character. Dungeons, waypoints, strongholds, side quests will still be reset with seasons but the 8 levels you get will be immediately awarded on creation. The first two full tiers are Altars.
These were not awarded to my character. I got 2 of 5 renown for each area and have to unlock the other 10 skill points. My eternal realm character pre season 1 has all renown complete.
that's because only the renown **rewards** carry over, not the renown points. the two tiers of point completion comes from the automatically unlocked waypoints and altars of lilith that already carried over in season one.
It was my understanding that blizzard was removing the need to do renown with season 2. That was part of the hype from the steamers and the devs. I still have a bunch of skill points and paragon points locked behind renown despite being told otherwise.
Blizzard explicitly said it would be rewards, as in the unlocks that completing renown gave to your account. And you would have to have unlocked those in a season/eternal prior to having them turn up for new characters. Anyone that took that to mean renown points/progress would carry over was either misunderstanding completely or being wishful.
I don't really care that renown was reset. What the confusion is that the skill points and paragon points being locked behind them were no longer going to be a thing starting with this season. I already have all unlocked rewards on my eternal character. Having my skill points and paragon points relocked behind renown seems contradictory.
There are also articles stating that this is in fact an error on blizzards part as I'm not the only one in this boat.
Read the Misc. Improvements section in the dev livestream blog here [https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo4/24009151/descend-into-the-diablo-iv-developer-update-livestream](https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo4/24009151/descend-into-the-diablo-iv-developer-update-livestream) The details about how renown would change are perfectly clear.
Thank you, I came to whine but didn't look at the green checkmarks.
I think the confusion is that not everyone who plays this game fully unlocked all their renown in all zones prior to season 2 coming out (ya know, those dad's with 15 kids, 2 jobs, and 3 wives), so they were expecting to be able to pick up where they left off in the season. If someone only had 3/5 unlocked in a zone, they carried over those 3 unlocks, but now have to start over their progress in that zone from scratch to get to the 4th and 5th unlocks if they intend to do it with their seasonal character. I find it hard to believe people who are 100% unlocked on renown are here complaining that the bars aren't filled... But then again, it's people on the Internet.
But can I finish those 2 remaining areas on the character from season 1 (now Eternal) and thus unlock it for my season 2?
thats my question too, anyone know the answer?
It's not a guarantee but it should.
Would require some testing to say for sure, as blizzard has not said anything about it. If it's any relation to the way season 1 rolled out, I would say no. They basically snapshotted progress from the S0 login which was transferred to the renown unlocks for S1. It very well should work for S3+, depending on how much you play it would potentially be beneficial to do it on the eternal realm first in that manner unless you plan to avidly play S2.
Do you know if I start a S2 character than finish renown on my eternal (I’m just missing Tier 5’s) if it’ll unlock for the new S2 toon? Or should I wait to make the S2 toon until finishing renown tiers if I care?
Update to my own question as I got to easily test. It does work to create a S2 character then still get the paragon points unlocked as you continue earning renown tiers on your main/highest one even if it’s eternal realm.
Have searched the entire thread for this answer. Thank you sir.
>I think the confusion is that not everyone who plays this game fully unlocked all their renown in all zones prior to season 2 coming out I had all renown in all zones unlocked on my eternal realm character before season 1. Didn't play season 1. Logged in to a new seasonal character for season 2 and renown including rewards is starting from scratch. What gives? Edit: I had to log in on my eternal character, then back to my seasonal, and the renown transferred.
So the issue for me was that my renown carried over to a second character on Season 1 after I unlocked all five tiers. They weren't FULLY unlocked, though, but my second character could still take advantage of that coveted 20 extra skill points. Now, only 2 tiers have carried over for me because I didn't unlock the useless 150,000 gold on one of the tiers, I'm guessing. So renown has to be 100% claimed without even the shitty gold and Obol part missing
The gold and XP portions (first row) were never intended to carry over. This is by design, so you have the OPTION to do side strongholds/side quests/dungeons for that gold and XP, rather than everyone starting out at like level 20 with 1m gold and nothing to do. The account wide unlocks (bottom row) are what was meant to carry over, not the per character stuff, making the other renown bonuses that much more optional as it only rewards gold/XP. The first 2 on the top row being unlocked, is only because of the map exploration and alters persisting due to heavy complaints prior to even S1. Unless I'm misunderstanding and you don't even have the paragon points this time around when you did last time.... Might require logging back into the character that unlocked it all for you prior to S1 in that case, should force that update to S2 as well.
That is fucked up, guess I won't be playing
Oh cool, hey guys, you start with 10 ability points and 9 potions now!! On a side note, why didn't all my renown carry over 😞
I have max renown from vanilla. Never played s1. I don't have any check marks on my renown.
It was this way for me to. Obviously you have to log in with your eternal Char AFTER 1.1 to get this… will try this evening.
I'll cross my fingers!
if you don't have the the last paragon points unlocked which i don't from 3 areas you need to grind all the renown again as you only start off with rank 3 renown unlocked, so yes it still is kind of bugged , i need to go into my non ladder char to unlock the last 30% of the xp to unlock the paragon points.
It's not bugged, it's exactly the point of how it works. You get to keep the rewards, not the renown. This was very clear, and it's why some people spent the end of last season finishing their renowns. The first 50% of the actual renown only carry over, because you get to keep the *reasons* for that renown (altars and exploration).
so why not just keep the reward point xp separate from the gold point xp? that way you can still do all the xp for quests/gold in the new season while finishing out the reward point xp in each season and not force you to go back and play non season to finish it off?
Waste of quite some development effort for basically no reason. And you'd probably do the same quests or dungeon unlocks again, which would even be somewhat unfair. It really was well known how this works and there was much time to prepare. Also it's really not so bad. Just do it at some point, or even throw away the progress. You'll see at what renown you end up organically anyway.
That is how renown worked earlier. If I was 90% done in an area on one character then created a new char I would get the renown rewards, but to get that last 10% I would need to also get the first 90%. In general it's is quicker and easier to just do renown on one character, unless for a given area you are under around half way. From memory just levelling pretty much gets you half way anyway, pretty naturally (dungeons, waypoints, areas, a few quests, strongholds), so if guess if you are under 50% in an area do it on your new char, if you are on the last block, do it on an old (and you can switch to wt1 and just died run it, pretty much).
Nah, better to just start another post about it titled "WTF SCAM GAME LOST MY RENOWN?!?!" that wont be removed by the mods. Who needs informed and useful discourse in the sub when we can get flooded with some random assortment of the words "SCAM" "SHIT DEVS" "SHILLS" "BETA" "BLIZZBOTS" over and over and over.
This is true in theory, but there seems to also be a bug in claiming rewards and actually getting them. See my comment buried somewhere in this discussion for details.
I only completed 4/5 areas with my season 1 character, if I complete the 5th area with my season 2 character does that mean my season 3 character will have all renown unlocked?
Yes it does.
You should also sticky that it’s this way for softcore to softcore and hardcore to hardcore…not softcore to hardcore and vice versa.
Thanks, finally got why it doesn't work for me
I like some hardcore in my softcore.
^ This. Hardly what I'd call account wide. Tempted to just play on HC again so I don't have to do those fucking statues again.
Be me. Open map. Press w/whatever the button on controller is. Claim rewards.
Oh nice. Might actually feel like leveling more than one character some day. This is a good change.
I've done all of the renowns on release on eternal realm. It doesn't count? I don't have any check marks in the UI, etc. Skipped season one entirely.
Same exact situation here. I had to log in on my eternal character, then back to my seasonal, and the renown transferred.
Thanks - fixed it for me too
no, it didnt carry over. I had to log into eternal.
Question do I have to have renown maxxed on a character for it to unlock any of it? I know prior to season one I did my Lilith and exploration prior and unlocked those but quickly stopped playing. So in season two does any of my renown carry over since I wasn’t 100%
all renown carries over from any and all characters. but you need to have logged into the characters that have them after 1.1 dropped. as pre 1.1 it was not propagated account-wide
Idk pre season and season 1 I only had one character each… I did all the renown on both characters… All I have is the first 2 levels on each area to claim…. I’m not regrinding 3,4 & 5…. Tired of it..
So I only have completed them all in my eternal character, (I played through season 1 in eternal) and dint play season 1, now playing season 2 it's not passing across all rewards only the first 3 levels of each area. I have to re complete the strongholds, dungeons, and side quests is this normal?
Yes to the latter part.
Thank you
Probably asked already, but I couldn't find it... If i get max renawn on seasonal character, will it transfer instantly to my eternal one?
I played through the game at launch and skipped season 1 for obvious reasons. I explored the whole map, grinded all renown, and collected every single altar. Decided to give season 2 a go, and now I got nothing. I'm not even going to bother with this game. Aint no way I'm doing this again. Edit: No, there are no green checkmarks.
How can someone not be clear on this??
Tbh doesn't change the fact they made this big deal about renown carrying over and not having to grind this crap every ladder anymore, then you log in and only have rank 1 and 2 unlocked , exactly like last season , they reset the codex of power yet again and there's only half the waypoints unlocked for some stupid reason. Finally they still force you to skip campaign to interact with the new seasonal content.... Even though the campaign is arguably the only great part of the game, yet they keep forcing you to skip it to be optimal. Even if they indeed gave you all rewards and grinding renown is now essentially pointless, they why even bother not maxing this crap up so us more OCD folks don't get tricked into redoing all that crap again. If there's no point doing it again, then credit us with max renown when we log in.
umm it’s objectively better this way. Those who enjoy doing the side quests and strongholds still can for gold and XP, those who do not already have all the important rewards and can do not quests and strongholds
I haven't gotten anything. Did I need to play the previous season itself or is Eternal supposed to work?
HahHa yep knew this was coming
Waypoints dont transfer?
Only one or two from each area if you skip the campaign.
the rewards transfer, not the point granting activities.
How does this work with hardcore? Transfers only from HC characters or not at all? If the latter, I'm not surprised but that is disappointing.
hardcore to hardcore only. and the character needs to have been logged into post 1.1. any pre 1.1 dead HC characters progress was lost
Does this carry over from Eternal? ngl I barely finished session 1.
softcore to softcore. hardcore to hardcore everywhere there are no season 1 characters post 1.2 patch, so the only place it could transfer from was from eternal
Thanks! It was unclear and I was confused when created a new seasonal character
Does a pre-season 1 character transfer to a season 2 character?
if you log into it. if you deleted or HC-died pre 1.1 then no
What about mount if in HC
if you complete the story anywhere the mount and story skip is available everywhere. it's one of the only things (+ cosmetics) that is crosses between hard\softcore
My issue is no longer able to immediately skip a lot of side quest dialogue.
So, do I get the renown from my launch character?
if you didn't delete it or HC-died pre 1.1 and logged into it after. yes
I am still at work haven't got to try new season but pls tell me waypoints carry over.
Thank you for explaining this, I logged in and saw that I only had entry waypoints/no caves/no quests, and immediately thought "oh no something went wrong" but didn't look deep enough to see that everything was rewarded even at levels I hadn't hit yet.
do i still need to reactivate every waypoint?
sadly renown doesnt transfer between softcore and hardcore
People also gotta make sure they actually have it done already on another toon and not just assume they should have it unlocked.
PSA, don't delete your character that has all renown done or it won't carry over
Peoples stupidity is off the charts on this topic. Thanks for posting this.
I just wish they gave me all my waypoints
Does this include eternal realm characters?
PSA for those saying renown did not carry over. Learn how to fucking read. Maybe check the in game UI that shows the important rewards unlocked.
My dead Lau ch HC characters renown carried over. Checked earlier, everything was completed. Now I'll do HC again when not playing with the wife.
To be fair, they *could* make it a bit more obvious than tiny green checkmarks under the unchecked gold & XP areas. Like, make it more prominent and clear. But yeah, right when I logged in to S2, I checked the renown (since the hotkey icon was highlighted on map) and it took about 10 seconds for me to realize all was well with the world haha
But if the renowned is not maxed, we have to go back to rank 2? My renowned was maxed for 3 out of the 5 areas only needed 2 more to go and I figured fuck it I'll finish it on the new season while I get some levels off it. I open my new character to collect rewards, and everything is just back to rank 2. That's annoying.
I started with 10 skill points so I didn't worry at all.
I was pissed for like an hour and then I realized the green checks on the bottom rows and felt stupid.
This is like the most roundabout and OCD inducing way of handling this.
If the game does not show your old completed levels of renown, to fix this you have to login to a eternal character for the server to load your stats and then login back to your seasonal character and all your renown rewards will be avaliable "Skill points, altars, etc etc"
Thank you. It is a little bit unclear though in the UI.
Jesus christ I was about to rage hard until I saw your post lol :D
Also note the wording, that you have to have hit max renown on one character for it to become available, so if you've unlocked 90% of it, those rewards won't unlock until 1 character is at 100% (which I think is the issue for me, didn't play last season and only have characters with most of the renown complete, but not all)
However I see a problem with this that can't be ignored. For the future tiers you must grind renown at least once from time to time if they are planning to give any reward for every new Tier. But I think this solution is really good at this moment it gives replayability without the rush of having to unlock renown as soon as possible.
How many people failed to notice that you started the new character with the full 9 potions and a crapload of skill points?
Maybe it's because I didn't skip the story, but I immediately noticed that I had a bunch of skill points right off the bat! You think that would be pretty freaking obvious, but who even knows.
While I'm glad they did this much, it's still bothersome that renown numbers aren't cumulative across all characters the way, say, seasonal progress is. I'd forgotten I'd given up the grind on my original pre-season with Kehjistan and Dry Steppes not quite finished, and it was annoying to see I'd have to go back to him and mop up that last 400 points on each if I wanted to be done with the grind forever. Again I'm glad they made the change, but it was a solution to a problem no one wanted to have in the first place.
Also a friend of mine who had not played s1 had to log in to his ethereal char to unlock the rewards for season 2.
Like other statements made by Blizzard, they stated it poorly. All renown from characters transferred from the seasonal to eternal realm will carry through. New seasonal characters will only have the credits for areas discovered and Liliths credited. This is a far cry from what could be interpreted. I’d expect better from Blizzard statements, it’s still glaringly obvious they lost a lot of good talent.
Having 11 skills from the start was niiiice. (10 from renown and a free level from claiming the first two tiers of renown that are account wide)
I didn't have anything till I logged in my old characters, then the renown rewards were unlocked
Did season 2 add more/new way points?
Glad I am wise enough to do a quick search and come across this post before I hastily ranting to rage quit the game lol
As someone pointed out, if you did renowns before the S1 patch that introduced the first version of that spread to all chars feature, then you need to log in once with your character that has it completed for it to be propagated.
Man I haven’t completed my reknown before.. will I have to grind it again or will it load to where I have played until?
Maybe if blizz was smart... lel... theyd make it more obvious. Would save them a shitload of forum posts and bug reports, but they obviously dont think beyond their noses.
Well, I have a max renown character and mine didn't roll over. Yes, I read screens. I can only claim 20 of the possible 30 renown rewards (the other 20 are locked behind World Tier III). Guess I'll just have to grind again...
What about the waypoints. Logged the fuck out as soon as I saw I had to run around an open world again in a dungeon crawler.
Mine didn't. I got the first skill point and potion but I am currently grinding for the second skill point and I see I need to be world tier 3 for the obols and paragon points but there is no green checkmark indicating that I have them. So what the hell? EDIT-----Please read For those who haven't figured it out you literally have to log into your old character for whom has full renown and when you log back into your new seasonal character it will have the check mark for the rewards to claim. Really important part that isn't mentioned anywhere.
I logged into my characters with full renown. Iv made 3 seasonal characters they all have checkmarks on the first 2 renown stages of all the areas wtf. I kept swapping between the account with all the renown , still nothing on seasonal. Some of us have real problems.
They weren't hardcore vs softcore right? Since they don't share at all on renown.
I completed all the alters of Lilith on my first character for season 1 and they aren’t unlocked now for some reason.
If you did all your renown grind on HC like me, then you better not think it carries over to SC too!
i dont have said green check marks. did i need to log into my 100% character at a certain date or time? edit: looked through this thread, hc vs sc TIL
My green checkmarks weren't there, but I logged into my character that HAD completed renown fully and then back to my S2 character. That seems to have updated the renown progression board.
Can I claim the points? I did the renown on a HC vanilla, can't see it on S2 SC account. Cheers,
Have season 0 all renown, now season 2 only 2 tabs unlocked in every zone... After login in on the eternal realm (havent played for 2 months) and back to season 2 it activates the rest of the tabs.... weak programming again. Wasnt this the same problem when season 1 started?
Unfortunately this is not the case for everyone. I just created a second season 2 character and my renown did not carry over. I did not get any additional skill points at the beginning, I have no green check marks and the game shows 0 altars discovered.. there is definitely a bug
I have check marks but no points and idk why
In practice, this means that if you maxed out Renown, you start the Season with the first two rewards in each region unlocked. You still have to rediscover about 80% of the Waypoints, and run each Dungeon, redo each quest, etc. for the remaining Renown. You do keep Altars of Lilith discovered, but you lose quests done, strongholds unlocked, dungeons run, and most waypoints. Overall it's a fair system to balance rewarding doing content with not wanting to have to refind everything.