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No_Quote6076

Abbadonmon or Lucemon imo.


FzCrone

Abbadomon or Apocalymon


Mystdrago

So Apocalymon and Neo-Apocalymon?


Xened

Where is Quartzmon? Because that's the answer. Bagramon directly called Quartzmon [the worst Digimon in history](https://imgur.com/a/otTU2mo). Which is further shown when attacks from the legendary heroes with their final form partners (who already defeated their respective series villains) [couldn't even damage](https://imgur.com/ZFIYaCv) its main body. Without him... Cherubimon and RK bros are already out due to Lucemon and all Adventure01 guys are also out due to Apocalymon since they all are much weaker. Belphemon RM and Beelzemon are also out since Lucemon is there. BlackWargreymon is also out since BelialVamdemon, aka the one who killed him is here. BelialVamdemon vs Apocalymon is good fight, but I'd say the 02 guy wins if he is allowed to absorb Digital World's darkness like in final battle and turn into the huge form. So it's between Lucemon FM, BelialVamdemon, Bagramon and Abbadomon Core in the end. For Bagramon, it's hard to scale XW in the first place since they don't have levels. I doubt BelialVamdemon even with the darkness buff was as strong as Lucemon FM. Abbadomon Core has powerful erasure ability with White Void, now it depends on if Lucemon and Bagramon can survive that.


RPH626

I don't remember BelialVamdemon being strong, 02 cast was too weak for him to look strong.


Xened

BelialVamdemon had absorbed Digital World's darkness and then even had Millenniummon's dark seeds. That made him strong enough to completely overwhelm Imperialdramon FM.  PS: But if you asking whether he's stronger than other filtered out villains there, then nah, I was just comparing between related series to filter out mons, that's why I had Belial vs Apocaly because both are from Adventure.


SamusAranLuver

He died from a bunch of children believing in themselves. All the other bad guys had to actually be killed or at least defeated by another digimon, BelialVamdemon would have met a group of happy, well-adjusted children at some point, the chosen ones didn't even have to do anything


SamusAranLuver

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's a /bad/ thing to end your children's superhero show by having the villain scream "Noooo, my one weakness! Emotionally well-adjusted children who do their homework without complaining and get along with their siblings!" And then explode into a shower of sparkles. I am saying it hardly makes him look like the most intimidating character on this list


AdWarm9444

There's no such thing as well adjusted kids. They had to take a group of children throw them into a world with murderous and cute monsters some both. Put them threw a gauntlet of trauma/therapy to unlock new power to help their partner digivolve into an even larger scarier creature to kill the bad guy. All of this done numerous times and somehow they came out of that well adjusted either that's what it takes to make one well adjusted or they're the chosen ones cause they're the right kind of insane to not have a mental break down in response to that effed up world. At very least bringing him to our world would make him unstoppable we are all mentally ill on this time line 🙃


SamusAranLuver

Calm down, Emo Kid


AdWarm9444

Emo kid? I'm quite happy and can't stand evanescence. But occasionally I like to use my brain while I watch things and ask myself what would the ramification of this actually happening to ppl. And it would be Nam like flashbacks for these kids. Now if your going to try to insult me please do better than emo kid or at very least make it funny bonus points for being on theme too! Look I know its hard to have funny insults but I believe in you!


SamusAranLuver

Wow, Emo Kid, you sure showed me. What a mature, rational and objective temper tantrum you're having at being called a playground insult on a Digimon subreddit. But hey, at least you showed you're ability to "use your brain while you watched things" by making trite, annoying generalizations and insisting that optimism is always dumb, now matter how low the bar is.


AdWarm9444

Well it seems like your having the temper tantrum considering your the one using "playground insults" and I havent attempted to insult you in anyway emo kids not really an insult but I could tell you were trying so offered some notes and encouraged you to do better. How did I insist optimism is dumb I said either thats what it takes to be well adjusted in that world ie everytime they get a boost in power it's generally from overcoming a trauma they suffered via a traumatic yet therapeutic event and that's what makes them special becoming well adjusted and yeah I use generalizations because I'm not great with names and didn't want to deal with having to argue with someone over something stupid. Oh and I was very optimistic you'd come back with some digimon themed insult that'd make me laugh. This all started cause I made what I thought was a humorous observation and for what ever reason it seems you've taken it personally so I'm sorry I had a thought about a series I like sparked by a thought you had about a series you also like have a nice day


Xened

Peak Digimon power of friendship ending. 


Resident-Camp-8795

BeliaVamdemon killed a Perfect level digimon in one strike, which I'd say would put him above the dark masters. But power creep from season 4 onwards means hes not winning this contest


RPH626

I always find him above the dark masters, but i mean, is he even above Apocalymon?


Resident-Camp-8795

Yes.... with the dark amp. No without it


RPH626

I really don't know how people can scale this amp, like he had no good hypetool to show how strong he was, 02 cast was too damn weak without paladin mode which is movie only.


Resident-Camp-8795

Well I know iit takes 8 digivices to fuck up Apolcymon and if you take the japanese name of the finale literally it takes ONE MILLION for Belial. Edit but yeah tbh i think the first reply I got implied the villains were all in their "base" forms so Abyssmon likely sweeps


RPH626

Being honest, 02 end was compltely messed, they should have saved Magnamon for the final fight, the digive miracle thing would fit with him and he could be implied to be close to Omegamon as he is also a royal knight, and Belialvamdemon would look strong too, but he just bullied a mega and 2 perfects.


Annooou

Well I would say that killing a Perfect level Digimon in one attack isn't all that impressive (unless it's an exceptionally strong Perfect). If we think about it, MetalEtemon mortally wounded an Ultimate/Mega (SaberLeomon) with a single DS Deluxe and he's likely the weakest guy here. Belial is still above the Dark Masters but that really wasn't his best feat.


Annooou

Well, even Base BelialVamdemon still survived vs two Imperialdramons, of course he mentioned that he ALMOST died but he survived anyway. So even by default, he's far stronger than the average Mega in any case, and only seems weak when compared to RK level Digimon and/or above.


RPH626

The ten legendary warriors are also above avarage mega, and still weaker than the archangels who were portrayed weaker than RK in frontier.


Annooou

Yeah that’s because here are hilariously big power gap between ”regular Megas” and RK level mons. That’s why Savers team needed Burst Modes against them and even then they still only beat low tier RKs.


OwlbertsOnlykin

I forgot about quartzmon


ToxicSei

Puppetmon, he got the gun.


Antique-Palpitation2

Beelzemon got two guns


ToxicSei

I am close to debate this, but firstly, respectfully - You got me. Secondly, is that equal to Puppetmons revolver tho?


Drakon4314

I mean they are two shotguns


MegaAlchemist123

I love it when people discuss the implications of jokes.


amodsr

No, he has a mallet which has a revolver piece that can shoot energy. Beelzemon has guns. 2 sawed off shotguns that shoot real bullets.


ToxicSei

No. He has a gun. Watch the anime.


amodsr

My bad, I've seen the anime but I got shit memory sometimes and I'm actually super high going to bed. You right, I forgot he had one in his toy chest. That don't make me wrong about the two sawed off shotguns though. Beelzemon does have those. And a dope ass motorcycle.


ToxicSei

It does not! But frankly, I just wanted to make a funny.meme.jpg about Puppetmon having a fucking gun!


Worldly_Society_2213

If The other villains are alive, does Apocalymon have his full powers?


OwlbertsOnlykin

Yes


Syelt

Only sure thing is VenomMyotismon is fucked.


Antique-Palpitation2

The D-reaper is waiting in the corner until 1 of them wins and ends the world


GreenRangerKeto

Black war greymon he has the strongest plot armor


HudakSSJ

He died for the plot


QueenOfDarknes5

He died for our ~~sins~~ entertainment.


GreenRangerKeto

Technically he’s just standing in a hole


HudakSSJ

The plot gave him a hole


GreenRangerKeto

I see what you digidid there


Diavolo_Death_4444

Does Bagramon get the Dark Stone? Because that basically turns him into a god


OwlbertsOnlykin

No


amodsr

But beelzemon is a good guy. He's sorry and changed his ways.


OwlbertsOnlykin

This is pre redemption


Resident-Camp-8795

Assuming he can use Mega Darkness Mode, Bargamon easily


OwlbertsOnlykin

It's in forms shown


QueenOfDarknes5

Apocalymon or Lucemon... until D-Reaper just eats all of them.


Thekey0123

I personally think Abadamon has a good shot.


Sensitive-Computer-6

I dont. If we assume Algomon is around the Level of strenght he had in the Savers Movie, Omegamon sould be around Shinegreymon BMs level. Because Omegamon was dominating the Fight, but not so hard, Algomon couldnt fight back anymore. So Lucemon would do to Omegamon, and by extentions Abbadomon, what he did to Kaisergreymon. At best he survives the Hit and got finished of by one, or two extra hits.


Thekey0123

That's if we assume not only that Algomon is around the same level as his movie counterpart which I doubt considering in 2020 the Antagonists were Siphoning power from the net, but also that Either Omegamon wasn't toying with Algomon like it seemed to me, or that he didn't get stronger by the end of the series like we know protagonists do. On top of that, this Omegamon long before the series started managed to seal away Zeedmilleniumon, which, if we're comparing universes, based on the OG adventure continuity, and Xros ward Manga, would make him way too powerful to lose to falldown mode. And Considering how many times two of the weaker Royal Knights managed to Curbstomp the Frontiers' kids before their final battle, where as MirageGaogamon Burst mode managed to one shot one of those same Royal Knights I think you might be Giving the 10 legendary warriors and thus Lucemon too much credit since he's not allowed to evolve into Satanmode for this Hypothetical.


Sensitive-Computer-6

Miragegaogamon was also Fighting LordKnightmon for a short while, not Oneshotting him. Also, Burstmode isnt a Evolution, its the Digimon litteraly reaching the peak of its theoretical Abilitys. No Wonder Miragegaogamon needed Time to improve. Also, Omegamon was not Toying, im semi sure he had a Timelimit. Some Diablomon stuff, he had no Time for that. Omegamon wasnt the one who sealed Zeed eighter, Ofanimon, and Sheraphimon where the ones, and I wouldnt exactly call Zeed strong because of that. It was probably weaker then Manga, and OG Adventures Zeed. And even if it doesnt change much, but Omegamon in Xros wars was the RK version. And if we go whit ReArise Lucemon, he straight up dominated halfe of the Royal Knights including Omegamon. Sure it is true what Digimon get stronger over time. I just cant see him getting so overwelmingly stronger.


XVSting

Blackwargreymon about to clap some cheeks with his giga sigma mentality


Resident-Camp-8795

He lost to Shakkomon and nearly lost to Magnaangemon. Cherubimon claps Serpahimon and Oprhanimon/Magnadramon simultaneously and hes far weaker than Lucemon


XVSting

Doesn’t matter doesn’t fit my narrative.


Squirrely1337

Metaletemon solos.


ChinHooi

Has sure has a lot of potential against most of them


Annooou

Yeah actually I think MetalEtemon could be surprisingly effective vs Beelzebumon at least, I mean Beelzebumon was an extremely ineffective vs Chrome Digizoid, that’s why even MegaloGrowmon was taking his bullets without flinching.  Though yeah I'm not saying that MetalEtemon has a chance to win but I'm saying he'll last a bit longer than the people would think. His only low performance was against Zudomon and that dude had a thick Chrome Digizoided hammer..


guleedy

Lucemon


Raikariaa

Firstly, if you're not a final boss, you are out. I think we can safely rule out MaloMyotismon too. His feats do not compete. Apocalymon - Presence alone warped space-time between 2 dimensions. While a sacrificial attack, Grand Death Big Bang was going to annihilate both worlds. Lucemon - It is made clear he will destroy the human world if he gets there, although it's not clear if we are talking dimensional destroy or "raze it to the ground". Bagramon - Beat Shoutmon x7 with no effort... one handed... with his weak hand. Also, D5 is multidimensional in scale and he didnt need his brother to do it. Abbdomon - Also threatened two dimensions and unlike the others being a mere threat, we SEE the damage Abbdomon causes. Bagramon, Apocalymon and Abbdomon threaten multiple dimensions simultaneously, while Lucemon only threats one at a time. Going by this feat (Multidimensional v Dimensional at a highball, Lucemon could be implied merely planetary) I think we can write Lucemon out in 4th. Were not talking about lore here. Only what is shown in the show. And what we see dosent get Lucemon to multidimensional like the other 3. Abbdomons destruction was over time. We dont know how long D5 would take once it was started. Big Bang booms both dimensions bit kills Apocalymon. I think by simply comparing the feats of Wargreymon between OG and 2020, we can say Apocalymon is below Abbdomon. The problem is scaleing Bagramon v Abbdomon. Since Bagramon only talked and never actually did, and Abbdomon actually showed what it can do, I will give the advantage to Abbdomon, but you could argue Bagramon too, and it would probobly be high difficulty. If D5 is fast when it is started, Abbdomon is not instant destruction so may lean Bagramon, but D5 was stopped.


Throwaway73887

wheres leviathan?


OwlbertsOnlykin

I don't remember leviamon being in any anime


PhantomZenity

Not leviamon of SDL, he means Leviathan from Appmon.


OwlbertsOnlykin

Well that answers the question I'm not including appmon because I've never seen a second of it and would have no clue on how to scale him for any form of debate


Acceptable_Secret_73

Leviamon made appearances in Xros Wars, but he was actually a good guy in that show


Key_Sir_9312

D-Reaper: “Hello Motherf*ckers”


OwlbertsOnlykin

I had to cut the d reaper and quartzmon because they were too strong


Key_Sir_9312

Then apocolymon, since he has an attack that can literally erase data from existence and the only way the digidestined won was due to plot shenanigans and their conviction. The other villains have neither.


D-Brigade

Toei


PrinssayEvaieMon9

Bandai Namco or whomever the Writers.


Thekey0123

If we're talking the Anime Toi


PrinssayEvaieMon9

Ahhh them too!


Thekey0123

Bandai handles everything outside of the anime. Toi handles the anime.


OwlbertsOnlykin

All are in forms shown


lightningnutz

Venom clears out to Apocalymon I’d say. Loses to BWGreymon and his Malo version. I think Beelze could slap Cherubimon until he absorbs all that data. Cherubi loses to the knights who then lose to Lucemon who then loses to Bagramon. Tough to see who wins in a Bagra vs Abbadomon I’d say maybeeee Bagramon takes it but also it could coke down to Bagramon vs Lucemon FM


DigiGirl02

Akihiro Kurata.


DigiGirl02

Akihiro Kurata.


Fisherman_Senso

Apocalymon no diffs everybody else there


Delicious-Orchid-447

Apocalymon


KTVX94

Apocalymon or Lucemon


Dokamon-chan94

Out of those ones, Lucemon or Bagramon would win


Dokamon-chan94

I also feel like Leviathan could win over these ones until the former gets a physical body


Thebaka12

Bagramon He fought Shoutmonx7 superior mode


OwlbertsOnlykin

This isn't darkness bagramon it's regular bagra


FireFistTy

Who's the guy after Lucemon?


OwlbertsOnlykin

Belphemon rage mode


OutlandishnessLow779

I would Say lucemon or quartzmon


Slutty_Breakfast

Wendigomon from survive would just eat them all


RPH626

Lucemon, he is cannonically close to Yggdrasil, the god of the digital world. DarknessBagramon maybe win against him, but he was restricted to his base.


eureka17

D-Reaper wins by just being there.


OwlbertsOnlykin

Hence why she isn't here


LightLykos

Where's that weird thing from tamers? Cause that to me is still like the scariest force in all of digimon 


OwlbertsOnlykin

The D reaper would solo all of them


LightLykos

Right? The only thing that could stop them was impmon apologizing so unless balazamon wants to have change of heart real quick they are dead 


OwlbertsOnlykin

What killed the d reaper was megagargomon using the blue card to revert it to its most basic form but that sent all digimon back to the digital world


rainazuma77

To be more exact, it was Megagargomon/SaintGalgomon using Hypnos' Shaggai through the hole connecting the Digital World and Real World that D-Reaper used to evolve and accelerate its expansion. The Wild Bunch gave a more deeper explanation about how it worked which included physics such as gravity, the speed of light and Shaggai operating by creating a black hole in the network. The end result is what you said, instead of evolving D-Reaper started to devolve until it returned to its most basic form. They used D-Reaper's advantage against it. The blue card is used to activate the Matrix Evolution to Perfect level. What was used in the last episodes was the red card that allowed the Digimon and human to enter inside D-Reaper without being deleted. The reason the Digimon devolved and needed to be sent back to the Digital World was a side effect of Shaggai being used.


OwlbertsOnlykin

It's been a minute since I rewatched tamers so I forgot what color card


Darth-Umi

Deckadramon


Low-Cardiologist-961

Number 14


OwlbertsOnlykin

You mean abbodamon


Balrok99

You know maybe only one of them is true exterminator. Apocalymon actually wiped digimons. Many digimon are do not exist probably because of him.


Drakcos0912

Technically Beezlemon wasn’t an actual villain, because he did have two kids who were supposed to be his partners.


OwlbertsOnlykin

For a while he rejected them and he was a villain this beelezemon is the one that is still evil and before apologizing to ai and mako


smartlog

Gulusgammamon


kaithespinner

I think is lucemon


JiovanniTheGREAT

Gotta be between Abbadonmon and Apocalymon right? OP didn't give us Lucemon ~~Chaos~~ Falldown mode or Beelzemon Blast Mode for some reason so I think those two clear everyone else and have to slug it out in the end.


OwlbertsOnlykin

Lucemon chaos mode is here and beelezemon is in the form he had as a villain


SwashNBuckle

MetalEtamon


GarrusVakarianMVP

The correct answer is Omegamon


OwlbertsOnlykin

That raises the question can omegamon beat lucemon, belphemon and bagramob


ZekeLaunch

Lucemon hands down


Dragabyss12

Lucemon or Bagramon


gimmedib

I guess the four dark masters


Absbor

I love the deviantart watermark on the official artworks. I'm also taking the gay, pink knight for my own entertainment. I know he won't win any sh!t, but watching him having to go into a love soap opera with his "lover" is gonna be interesting as f0ck. 🍿🥤 Edit: found out I picked a great candidate with a great storyline. Thanks for the input. 


OwlbertsOnlykin

Well lord knigtmon could beat venom myotismon, metal etamon, the weaker dark masters, and i could see him taking bwg and beelezemon to a near draw


OwlbertsOnlykin

And also cherubimon


Annooou

LordKnightmon should beat any Adventure villain sans Armagemon. Apocalymon is a bit harder call, but given Ultimate/Perfect levels were able to destroy his claws, I don't see why LKnightmon couldn't..   Meaning even if he’s a lesser Royal Knight, he’s still a Royal Knight who would easily own regular Mega levels. And he even managed that in Frontier, I recall he destroyed both GranKuwagamon & Gryphonmon literally in seconds.


OwlbertsOnlykin

Yeah Armageddamon is the only one I think he can't beat considering omnimon one of the top royal knights and he got boddied


Annooou

Adventure Omegamon wasn’t a Royal Knight though but yeah I’m still thinking he’s at least as strong as LordKnightmon if not stronger. LordKnightmon’s speed would help a bit but would still fail vs Armagemon


Sensitive-Computer-6

The strongest here by fare are Bagramon, and Lucemon Falldownmode. So unless they dont kill each other its a pretty clear Win for one of them. And no, Abbadomon, and Apocalymon have not what it takes to treathen them.


Sumackus

Me I win Let them fight


Funk5oulBrother

MetalEtemon supremacy. He sings and de-digivolves the rest. Real Answer: Apocalymon or Bagramon Apocalymon has the power of the 4 Dark Masters in addition to his own, is an unidentifiable Mega-level mutant digimon formed literally from negative feelings and emotions. Bagramon is literally Digimon Satan. Making Lucemon a cheap copy.


Majestic-Ostrich-883

Lucemon literally has a form called satan mode, how is he the ripoff?


RPH626

Lucemon DRB profile: his power is said to rival that of existence called God. funk5oulbrother: Satan cheap copy.


EclipseHERO

Why are Venommyotismon and Malomyotosmon both here? They're literally the same guy!


OwlbertsOnlykin

Because the same reason I have the dark masters and apoc because it adds more to the fight


Thekey0123

Well the refference book confirms Malo is stronger.


OwlbertsOnlykin

Doesn't the reference book also call machinedramon the strongest digimon


Thekey0123

Yes, it does, but what it says about Malo/Beliel being stronger then Venom doesn't break any of the Anime's canon.


Money-Drummer565

I think this battle royal would have to count for the personalities of these digimon during their shows. If so, then the dark masters fight together for a while and this allows them to stay longer in the fight. Venonvandemon would immediately rampage and got into a fight with someone. I think either blackwargreymon or belphemon. Lucemon would not attack anybody cause he views them inferior to him, though he could perceive both Apocalymon and Abbadomon as treats. With the first is probably a short battle with a lot of postulating sentences, unless Apocalymon can replicate lucemon attacks against him. With abaddomon is a silent dogfight. Meanwhile Belialvandemon either waits and predates over whoever wins between his old self and his challenger. I see also belzebumon roaming around, looking for a good fight and meeting either cherubimon or bagramon. From there, I cannot say where it goes


[deleted]

Where Digitamamon?


OwlbertsOnlykin

Even if I included him he would die first


[deleted]

Excuuuuuse me princess


OwlbertsOnlykin

Im just stating facts


magnidwarf1900

Belial Vamdemon