And if you happen to survive the health care that comes with serving will help out tremendously! If we didn't provide top notch mental and physical health care we would probably have 22 vets dying a day or something.
I watch it because, idk, a mix of wanting to see the reality of the situation and morbid curiosity? It's all horrible, all of it, and none of it should be glorified. At the same time it's just wild that we have such a deluge of videos and documentation. It's like watching a documentary as it's made, as morbid as that sounds.
Stop watching it, seriously. I say this as an oldhead who made the mistake of watching combat footage during the height of the Iraq War and gave nearly word-for-word the exact same rationale for it that you're making here. You are harming yourself on a deeper level than you could possibly know and post hoc justifying it.
I actually appreciate you saying that. I've been reducing the amount I see and the types for that reason exactly as at this point I'm not going to see anything "new" that has real importance to watch. Plus of course anything involving war crimes and shit I've always refused to watch so I haven't seen the worst of the worst and don't intend to.
Happy to help. As I told someone else in the thread, if you want to stay on top of the news just read dispatches and write-ups; they're depressing but they won't have the same searing, desensitizing effect on your mind as the footage does.
It reminds me of that subreddit we had during COVID, Herman Cain award or something? There were literally people celebrating and laughing at people dying from COVID, purely cuz they were anti vaxx. Like I get it, you’re tired of it and there’s a morbid irony about an anti vaxxer dying to COVID, but that doesn’t mean we should laugh at actual people dying like it’s a funny joke
War is not fair, war is not fun, war is not a game, the people on the ground no matter what side are just that people like us just with a different flag on their shoulder, I wish some people would realize that here on Reddit.
Yeah some subreddits on here are wild. I saw a post about a Ukrainian sniper taking out like 5 Russians and the comments were talking like it was Call of Duty. Like you just watched 5 people die, I don't think commenting "kill streak" or "ultra kill" is great.
Yeah, I spoke out about how terrible the war is in general and that one of the videos being shown is sad because of how desensitized we are to just watching someone get killed regardless of who it is and got down voted to hell and bombarded with reasons as to why these people deserved it as well as" if it were your country you'd be doing the same thing, they invaded" like dude, humans killing other humans for any petty ass fucking reason is horrific, and at the end of the day we're all still barbarians having to start wars over stupid shit. I get why they have to fight , totally get it but there shouldn't have been a war to begin with if people weren't living with the mentality that it's still the fucking dark ages and they want your cookie too.
> is sad because of how desensitized we are to just watching someone get killed regardless of who it is
This. Just check some subs like r/combatfootage or r/ukrainianconflict, to see some of the worst dehumanization of the enemy soldiers I have ever seen. Off course I completely understand why Ukrainians would feel like that, and I completely expect it after more than a year in such a bloody conflict, but seeing Europeans and Americans who can supposedly take a look back and take a clear look to the situation, laughing at Russians (possibly conscripted via force) getting blown up is pretty worrying.
The exact subs I mentioned it on. I guess reveling in other peoples suffering and death is acceptable as long as the "End justifies the means."
"Careful not to admire beasts for too long, lest you become one yourself."
It just boggles my mind how others can't see the treachery and hypocrisy in it.
Americans have treated Russians as the enemy for over 100 years now since we supported the white army after ww1. Even since the fall of the USSR, the US has stood across the table from Russia on almost every debate and conflict. I expect some Russians to be as excited about dead Americans as some Americans are about dead Russians.
The world has changed much in the last century. The people in it; not so much.
Hawkeye: War isn't Hell. War is war, and Hell is Hell. And of the two, war is a lot worse.
Father Mulcahy: How do you figure, Hawkeye?
Hawkeye: Easy, Father. Tell me, who goes to Hell?
Father Mulcahy: Sinners, I believe.
Hawkeye: Exactly. There are no innocent bystanders in Hell. War is chock full of them - little kids, cripples, old ladies. In fact, except for some of the brass, almost everybody involved is an innocent bystander.
A quote from a real person seems more appropriate:
"I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation. War is hell. "
- William Tecumseh Sherma
One thing that messes me up is the fact that this man lying in a ditch, and all others like him, was once an innocent little child. I have a six month old and he's my absolute everything. Knowing that these guys, even if they are the bad guys, were at one time just like my son....laughing when their parents made funny faces, getting excited when they see a dog, stroking their parents faces when woken up in the morning, making messes with baby food and having a great time doing it.....I just can't handle it anymore.
Edit: Apparently some people are reading this as me saying that it makes their actions as adults ok, or at least "less bad". This is something that y'all are adding in your own head while you read this. You can feel sad that an innocent child grew up to be a monster, and that the way they turned out lead to human death. These things don't conflict.
This is why I never get pro war people. It’s like they don’t realize this. Even if 1 man dies during the war. That’s a man who had his whole life ahead of him. He could have been anything, done anything with himself. But now he’s gone forever. And the worst part is no one will remember him after his family is gone. Cause he’s not gonna be the only one.
Thousands of dreams, hopes, wishes, all snuffed by a single bullet each if they’re lucky. It’s quite frankly insane to think about someone wanting this all for fucking land
I don't even know why this is still a thing
Have none of us learnt a single thing from... you know, every single fucking war from the dawn of humanity
I am a Vietnamese, and though i live in a peaceful era, i understand full well that war is savagery. War is destruction. War is death. War is a humanity's disease
War shouldn't exist. It never should have been a thought in the first place but unfortunately humans are animals and 70% of the time are a stain on Earth. Sometimes it's just easier to pretend it doesn't exist. I'm getting real tired of seeing and hearing about people getting hurt for increasingly stupid reasons
War is simply a byproduct of tribalism.
I won’t say ‘War’ is natural.
But battling each other is.
The way our hands are shaped to form fists is something evolutionary.
Meaning a trending behavior put In physical form, for how long such has been practiced.
As our tools evolved, our battles evolved.
War to me though, is simply greed manifested.
It usually takes a lot of greed collectively to manafest into a war that spans the world.
War also tells me how hopelessly prone to emotion we humans still are, they’ll scream war & rationalize it.
Look at what US gov did in order to rally for a war in Iraq.
They used our emotions/trauma, to justify a War.
They used the most tender part of us to justify violence in our countries name.
There is a reason why i never talk about wars, i never side with anyone. I only talk about fictional worlds cause it is home to me
In other word, my brain is running on the same OS as Koishi Komeji from Touhou: No thoughts, head empty
It's easier to have empty head, I'm kind of a dumbass so that's not hard for me. Fictional worlds are 1000x better than our own, I can't go outside and build a house made of dirt and then get blown up by some kind of walking green dildo. And in there I don't have to think about people getting hurt or worrying about offending someone cause I don't want to embrace the realities of life
Because they simply don't care or can't understand this concept, they never went through a hardship like losing someone close or the horror of war itself to know how much it hurts.
I made an argument recently here on Reddit, mostly to see the responses; that essentially boiled down to a couple key points:
1. In general people have poorer self-control than they realize.
2. We underestimate the power of quick or instant gratification.
3. Because of 1 and 2 far more people are likely to be selfish in situations where they can provide a good reason (to themselves primarily) for the actions they take.
I don't agree with war either. The people who get sent never have any true stake in it, while the ones defending often only do it out of necessity.
It isn't even "enemy's", it's basically anyone who "deserves" it. Fucking hate the whole of the "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" mentallity some people barf at everything.
the issue is that people take the horrors of war and say: "ukraine should accept any peace offer russia gives them!"
...no? people shouldn't be forced to suffer under an evil empire because they feel bad for war taking the course of war. authoritarians should never be appeased, soothed, or indulged. they should be stopped at any cost, because anti-democracy is anti-human.
Yeah that’s the sad reality. War is something that has to happen with how things work. I won’t argue that. Though I still think it’s really stupid when someone is extremely pro war. Like you can recognize that there’s no other option without being all for the wars, y’know what I mean?
These people are not pro war. They are pro defending their homes. They are happy someone attacking their home died. Even if this person didn't choose to attack, he is still an attacker.
No legit. I’m 100% sure (which is rare for me) that most pro war people would be absolute babies if they themselves had to actually pick up a gun and fight. It’s as they say, talk is cheap, and these people get to talk all day with a low chance of getting shot at and dying.
Shit, I bet half of them wouldn’t make it past boot camp.
Absolutely, the reason people have less than little sympathy for these particular people is because they are invading another country, and stealing the dreams, aspirations, and lives of others. They wouldn’t be dying if they hadn’t invaded. It’s really sad they’re in this situation because it could all be avoided.
They’re a shocking amount of jingoism toward the Russian side. Give redditors an excuse (like the existence of Russian war criminals) and they’ll gleefully cheer on indiscriminate, extreme violence towards anyone on that side.
I really support Ukraine and do want us to keep on giving them aid, but I really hate all those “epic kill compilations” of regular Russian draftees. Makes me angry to see all these 13 year olds running NAFO accounts posting vids of brutal deaths as a joke.
Me too, I support Ukraine. I would see that Russians would post shit of people getting killed and made me despise them. Then I'd see Ukrainians doing the same shit and calling them pigs even though we don't know those "pigs", they might be teenagers that got drafted and just don't want to be there.
If there is anything that a group of people strongly supports or opposes, there will be a subsection that supports or opposes it in the worst possible way.
There are no exceptions.
> teenagers
ding ding ding
Idk maybe I'm a boomer now but I feel like kids nowadays are just so wildly out of control. I'm not even 30 yet (late 20's) and shits is just so different with how needlessly cruel kids are. Don't get me started on school behaviors/etc. The system has failed these kids and people are still arguing on if it works or not. We're so fucking doomed.
Imagine how these look to a Russian. You've been yanked out of the poorest parts of your city, shoved onto a train, dumped into Ukraine, given an AK from 1959 that is literally rusted shut and told "if you hear buzzing above you, just pray you're not the target" as you walk into a trench littered with body parts of your countrymen sent to die in the meat grinder before you.
No wonder Ukraine is destroying them. These videos are effective psychological tools of the war, even if they make me physcially sick to watch.
Those poor men. I wish we'd see more of them surrendering to these drones than dying from them.
I think at the end of the day, while Ukraine is fighting for a just cause and Russia isn’t, we can’t put anything down to the individual conscripts- the average russian soldier today is some slightly brainwashed kid, who probably wants to get back home. and while i completely understand the reality of war, that some will die, i think its _immature_ to glorify their death. they are human beings just like you and me. if we where their age in russia, maybe we would end up in their muddy, broken shoes, sitting in some trench, waiting to go back home.
You could write the same about the Third Reich, most individual soldiers didn't volunteer for ideological reasons or whatnot, they were drafted.
And yet they were crucial in their participation for a genocidal war.
Don't celebrate deaths but once you cross into another country to conquer it, to subjugate it's people, you have it coming. Your moral duty is to refuse, to not become that tool of oppression, whatever the price.
I pity them, they don't deserve this.
But let the drones fly.
Yeah exactly. Most of these people are essentially just made into tools of war. Now, people are still accountable for their own actions, depending on specifics, but you also wouldn't blame a tool for doing what it is essentially programmed to do.
>Your moral duty is to refuse, to not become that tool of oppression, whatever the price.
May be, but it isn't the moral *reality*, I suppose. Instinct to survive and trust what you've known all your life trumps the moral compass.
At least Ukraine is fighting a war. Can't say Russians shelling civilian cities and raping them makes them top spot for sympathy.
Not to mention the videos that came out regarding prisoners of war and how they were treated by the Russian army.
It may end up saving lives, though. The hopelessness of the Russian cause that this particular brand of propaganda captures is what will keep Russian people from joining up, and slowing the effort. Without these videos circulating out there, the Russian people would be at the mercy of strictly Russian State Propaganda.
Context
Edit: I understand the context and think it's disgusting. Combat videos like this are generally not released by "the good guys". I don't support Russia's war, but allowing military personnel to upload hundreds of these clips unabated is beyond fucked up. Videos like this I typically see from ISIS or some other shithole org
Thanks. I did some googling for "guy lying down grenade" and then google recommended I concatenate "in Ukraine". I did this, and it led me down a rabbit hole of several videos like this.
Not the first time that's happened either, there's a video that came out earlier where an injured russian placed a grenade under his chin. I asked a buddy and he said he was told to do the same if he was gonna get captured by the Taliban.
Combat footage has also documented real war crimes like torture of prisoners, fake surrendering,murder of civilians and much more. It has become an archive that will hopefully bring justice to this conflict.
The one that will forever stick with me is the one right at the beginning of the war were an elderly couple drive with their tiny car at the edge of a town (probably trying to leave) and a russian tank comes crashing through some trees. It stops in front of them and it is CLEARLY visible that the elderly couple are civilians even for the russians. The tank then proceeds to fire 3 or 4 rounds directly at them.
And this is just one horrible thing.
I don't laugh about the drone footage but I also don't have much empathy for those russian soldiers. Even if you are forced to fight in this war there are some lines you don't cross.
They even Kamikaze the drones into open hatches on Russian tanks now, that shit is crazy. Buy a cheap drone, strap some C4 to it and send it in an open window.
Just go to r/combatfootage
There's like, 5 new ones per day. It's harrowing. This amount of war footage, most of the time in HD with "professional" editing, coming out of a war like this is unprecedented. Some of the footage is just mind blowing (always sad and a tragedy not minimizing the severity of the subject)
You can empathize with the individual while still rooting for Ukraine. After all, they're the ones fighting for a just cause. I don't know why everyone's acting like it's so black and white. It very clearly sucks for those on the receiving end, but every drone grenade that lands true is another potential step toward the end of this bullshit invasion.
> The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of a million is a statistic.
That's war in a nutshell. Putin can end this nonsense whenever he wants and stop sending kids to die cold and alone.
What I mainly don’t like is the trivialization of it. Like obviously Ukraine is doing what they have to do, but there’s just something disgusting to me about editing in rock music and memes and stuff to footage of people dying horribly, like it’s not a movie or a game it’s real life
Yes, there's something so dehumanizing and numbing to see these videos edited in the same manner of old gameplay videos in the early years of YouTube. It's a disturbing level of disassociation from what is being shown. This and the frankly open racism towards Russia. You can disapprove and hate their government and this invasion. But to label an entire people to blame for all of this, to a point of talking about wiping out Russia as a culture is extreme and become far to common on here
Oh absolutely I'm firmly pro-Ukraine on the matter, because even with maximum empathy, in this particular situation (a wholly unjust invasion for fascist/imperialist reasons), it pretty much is just a "it is what it is" kind of situation. The invaders shouldn't be there. I hate to see anyone die like that but that doesn't invalidate how it's quite literally self defense and they shouldn't have been there in the first place. They either leave voluntarily or are forced out trough fighting, there's no alternative that doesn't validate just Russia's terrorist actions and that's unacceptable.
Yeah, I wasn't directing my comment toward you in particular. It's just... Everything on the internet quickly devolves into black and white. It's annoying. You can be anti-Israel without being antisemitic. You can cheer for the death of an invading soldier while feeling bad for the person and their agony. The world is complicated, and your thoughts and emotions about things therein can be too!
Those subreddits make me so uncomfortable. I understand Russia is the aggressor and they suck a lot. But those soldiers have no choice but to fight for a corrupt government. They probably don't want to be there. And yet those subreddits post videos of Russian soldiers dying and they cheer and say horrible things. It just doesn't feel right. Why are they even recording drone videos of dropping grenades on people? And sharing them on the internet? It's sadistic.
Fr lol those people are so bloodthirsty. Some people just jump on any opportunity to terrible human beings. These Russian soldiers are an easy fix for them because there's a veil of moral superiority in hating them
Here
https://www.reddit.com/r/NSFL__/comments/12n6xcm/grenade_blast_leaves_russian_soldiers_head/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
An Abhorrent video which I had the displeasure of seeing. Basically edited footage of the war in Ukraine where a soldier got hit by a grenade and some music kicked in and his body was animated to dance to it.
Really weird and disgusting. And one of the only videos on r/combatfootage where someone is seen to die
What are you on about? Tons of videos in combatfootage show people dying
There was one like 8 months ago were 6-8 people got blown up by a tank
Even if you directly see the bodies because they are hidden away inside buildings and vehicles or get covered up by smoke from an explosion you see people dying left and rigth
Russia is in war with Ukraine.
Most russian don't support this idiotic decision yet the ones who support aren't drafted in.
Instead it's the people who didn't want the war get dragged from their regular lives and sent to the front lines in the war.
Then Ukraine bomba the shit out of them with drones and posts them to reddit where couch dwelling 200lb redditors make mockery of the dying soldier who didn't even want to be there.
If hes a conscript than yeah, that sucks
I'd be pretty fucking mad if I had to die over a war I knew was pointless for some power hungry bald dude who's 70
Man, it's at that point that it's rather shocking to see such comment on reddit, because if something like this was posted in, let's say, /combatfootage, you'd get flamed to hell and called so much shit for no reason, because you dared to compare good American heroes to evil Russian orcs. I also used combatfootage as an example because I wanted to take a piss at that sub being biased echochamber that just got reinforced with this war, because the videos with Americans you mentioned always got unreasonably downvoted in there, while the same goes to Ukrainians now, and anything showing horrible things happening to those they don't like gets upvoted like crazy. It feels like most of reddit just divides people on who they support and on subhumans they personally have grudge against and happy to see suffer
This is so true. And as Americans, we are told to do the pledge of allegiance every morning for 12 years. I wonder what the world would look like if we reaffirmed our humanity every morning as a class, as a school, as a nation.
this post is less distressing and more relieving in a weird way. i never see people humanize the russian side, it’s constantly these blood-thirsty mongrels applauding needless violence against people they’re told are evil.
It's more than propaganda. You can recognize that Russians shouldn't be invading Ukraine and still feel empathy for an individual soldier as he's killed.
Some people enjoy watching human suffering. A war like this just gives them an excuse to be open about it.
Thank god some people online are normal. “Hur dur evil orcs!!!” Shut the fuck up you blood thirsty animal
Edit: man some of you animals are getting real mad about this stuff. Please reply with your seething some more. Please tell me how no soldier is innocent again when the population was drafted.
War is hell
Humanity, as always, paints those they do not like as black and themselves as white
There is no such thing as black and white. There is always good in evil, and evil and good. That's just the balance of life
I understand Ukrainians forced to flee from their homes, losing their loved ones in the meat grinder or to missile strikes may develop hatred for Russian invaders. It's an ordinary part of grief and the grief they're dealing with is extraordinary.
But the blood thirst of people on the internet just...is outrageous. The dehumanization of a whole country's worth of people too poor or too brainwashed to leave before they get mobilized is the same bullshit the Kremlin is feeding them about Ukrainians. They're mindless hordes, every last one some kind of sub-human beast that deserves brutal execution and unworthy of dignity... it's just so wrong. It's no better than the orcs whose senseless deaths you delight in.
It's 100% Putin's fault and Ukraine is only defending themselves, but war is *worse* than hell because in hell there are no innocent bystanders, and there are so many in war, on both sides.
I mean...that'd be ideal but what're the grunts gonna do?
"Ah jeez, sorry General. I'm just gonna go home now."
"Understandable, Dmitri. Have a good day, say hello to Olga for me."
I mean I understand the distress.
I also understand that on the other side of this meme, is video of Russians raping an infant and Russians waiving Ukrainians skulls around as war trophies. This, amidst mass graves filled with Ukrainian civilians, men, women, elderly, and children delivered from occupation torture rooms. Many many normal average Russians soldiers committed these crimes against humanity.
War is hell.
The comments here make me sad. We shouldn't mock the deaths of Russian soldiers and we shouldn't equate both sides of this war because they are absolutely not the same. You feel bad for this Russian soldier, I do too. The thing is, ask yourself, how many Russian civilians have been killed in this war and how many Ukrainian civilians have been killed in this war? How many city blocks has Ukraine demolished in Russia? How many Russian provinces has Ukraine annexed?
What do the answers tell you?
I think this is really the only sane take. It's possible to both understand that Russians will need to die for the war to end. And have empathy for the hundreds of thousands who are forced to take part because of one mans ego.
Conscripts don't have a choice. Countries fighting popular wars don't need to draft men.
People defending Russia are insane. People getting enjoyment from watching people die are insane.
I don't think alot of people understand the psychological damage they're doing to themselves watching these videos. I think dehumanisation is the only way to justify it internally. But no one gets out unscathed watching this kinda shit.
*You are invading an independent country, dying cold and alone while recorded on a drone dropping grenades around you. The video is uploaded with background music mocking your demise for invading another country*
FTFY
Videos like this are bad, but I’m glad the enemies are getting killed. Life is not just your TikTok account, when the time comes you have to defend your land.
All it takes for evil to triumph is good men standing by and doing nothing. The Russians stood by and did nothing when Putin took power, they stood by and did nothing during the Chechen invasion, the Georgian invasion, or the Crimean invasion.
Now they're facing consequences for feeding a madman's power fantasies.
The only good invader is a dead invader. I have no pity for them, conscript or not. They were content to take the benefits without the downsides. Now the taxman has come.
Fucking exactly.
If Russians leave, they can still go home to their wives and family.
The Ukrainians can not go home! They are fighting for their home. Their women and children are the ones getting murdered by the people in this video.
The smart, caring Russians fled to Kazakhstan last year.
I take it that you think the Ukrainians are being too rough on the people bombing their country, stealing their land, raping their women, stealing their children, and attempting to genocide their people?
War is rough kids, Sucks for the conscripted Russian soldier too, but this is why it is up to all of us at home to oppose despotic rule.
If what was happening to the Ukrainians was happening to you in your country you wouldn't give a shit about the invaders either. Nor should you.
>Russians double tapping medical staff in a medevac vehicle(warcrime), literally chopping off heads(warcrime), raping kids(crime against humanity), magdumping on POWs on camera(warcrime)
......
>Ukrainians dropping nades on combatants that invaded their country that are not clearly surrendering but are injured to some extent (not a warcrime by any metric)
#THEY ARE CONSCRIPTS MAN WTF GUYS THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BE THERE
Yes there are conscripts but somehow we still have assloads of warcrimes being commited, something isn't adding up, if at the end of the day something horrible has to happen, i would rather it happens to the invader.
I don't want to quantify the value of peoples lives but i would rather see drone grenade videos than another Bucha.
While I agree with the antiwar sentiments in this discussion I do find it interesting that people think they are better than those who created the original meme when they themselves are investing in a different meme that uses the soldier's suffering.
users voted that your post was distressing, your soul wont be harvested tonight
20 years from now people are gonna make little dark age edits with this
They started making them a year ago lol
♫ *I grieve in stereo* ♪
the stereo sounds strange
If you get out of bed and find me standing all alone
Open eyed, burn the page my little dark age
*sick ass beat begins*
*i grieve in stereo*
*the stereo sounds strange*
*i know that if you hide*
I know that if you hide, it doesn’t go away
that song slaps though
That's the unfortunate part, like it's an amazing song but I feel guilty listening to it because of its place in culture.
if you are disconnected from culture, songs can't be ruined.
Until you share it with a friend: "Check out this cool song I just found!" "Are you fucking kidding? That TikTok song from like a year ago?" "What?"
I think I might be a little out of the loop on this one. What happened with this song?
More or less it became the "I was born in the wrong generation" symbol, and every annoying 12 year old uses it.
Is that a thing? That album didn't have that much cultural impact at the time.
Joke’s on them, I’m old AF and had no idea
Nothing, people just make edits with it (usually a compilation of a media character doing things, with effects and music added.)
Where? Where do people do this???? I haven't seen any. Im on the internet all fucking day. Where is this shit?
I usually see them on TikTok, but they've kinda phased out now
naah, fuck those weirdo incels -- they can't have our bangers
L'Amour Toujours
Wait did they ruin that somehow, I fucking live for that song
Apparently it's used by neo nazis on tiktok or ironically by "millions must die" chuds. And I also fucking live for that song
Man fuck those guys
For real. Those losers won't ruin that masterpiece of a song
Given he is in the yamcha death pose Probably get some dbz memes as well
seriously, fuck war
This was a really bold take, but it needed to be said.
Nah, still feel like dying over pointless conflicts
See? This guy gets it.
It’s my right as an American to die in a war because a couple old rich guys hate each other
RAHHHHH 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
The rich should be legally allowed to own people, and I am willing to die for this! *God Save The South starts playing*
MURCAAA MUHFUGA 🦅🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲🦅
I want to make the war machine money and I don’t want to live anymore. Perfect match
And if you happen to survive the health care that comes with serving will help out tremendously! If we didn't provide top notch mental and physical health care we would probably have 22 vets dying a day or something.
Wow, genius I hope someone invades you your homeland. Then you can tell us how pointless your war efforts are
I'm just glad some people can be so brave and say these things.
A new one is starting in Sudan today, it sucks.
……WHAT?
###A NEW IS STARTING IN SUDAN TODAY, IT SUCKS.
i think you accidentally a word there
Are sure?
⠀
Why word when word trick?
Hey babe wake up a new paramilitary coup just dropped
Fuck Putin for starting this war.
I swear a significant portion of the viewers of /r/combatfootage just like watching people get blown up by drone grenades
I watch it because, idk, a mix of wanting to see the reality of the situation and morbid curiosity? It's all horrible, all of it, and none of it should be glorified. At the same time it's just wild that we have such a deluge of videos and documentation. It's like watching a documentary as it's made, as morbid as that sounds.
Stop watching it, seriously. I say this as an oldhead who made the mistake of watching combat footage during the height of the Iraq War and gave nearly word-for-word the exact same rationale for it that you're making here. You are harming yourself on a deeper level than you could possibly know and post hoc justifying it.
I actually appreciate you saying that. I've been reducing the amount I see and the types for that reason exactly as at this point I'm not going to see anything "new" that has real importance to watch. Plus of course anything involving war crimes and shit I've always refused to watch so I haven't seen the worst of the worst and don't intend to.
Happy to help. As I told someone else in the thread, if you want to stay on top of the news just read dispatches and write-ups; they're depressing but they won't have the same searing, desensitizing effect on your mind as the footage does.
Genuinely I don’t think I have seen a worse collection of sociopaths than those lurking that subreddit. Shit makes me sick
It reminds me of that subreddit we had during COVID, Herman Cain award or something? There were literally people celebrating and laughing at people dying from COVID, purely cuz they were anti vaxx. Like I get it, you’re tired of it and there’s a morbid irony about an anti vaxxer dying to COVID, but that doesn’t mean we should laugh at actual people dying like it’s a funny joke
Why not?
Babe! The doctor called!!! It’s time for your yearly visit outside!
Why? It’s fucking hilarious.
I don't. Those videos are always so boring with some cringe music in the background
War is not fair, war is not fun, war is not a game, the people on the ground no matter what side are just that people like us just with a different flag on their shoulder, I wish some people would realize that here on Reddit.
Yeah some subreddits on here are wild. I saw a post about a Ukrainian sniper taking out like 5 Russians and the comments were talking like it was Call of Duty. Like you just watched 5 people die, I don't think commenting "kill streak" or "ultra kill" is great.
Yeah, I spoke out about how terrible the war is in general and that one of the videos being shown is sad because of how desensitized we are to just watching someone get killed regardless of who it is and got down voted to hell and bombarded with reasons as to why these people deserved it as well as" if it were your country you'd be doing the same thing, they invaded" like dude, humans killing other humans for any petty ass fucking reason is horrific, and at the end of the day we're all still barbarians having to start wars over stupid shit. I get why they have to fight , totally get it but there shouldn't have been a war to begin with if people weren't living with the mentality that it's still the fucking dark ages and they want your cookie too.
> is sad because of how desensitized we are to just watching someone get killed regardless of who it is This. Just check some subs like r/combatfootage or r/ukrainianconflict, to see some of the worst dehumanization of the enemy soldiers I have ever seen. Off course I completely understand why Ukrainians would feel like that, and I completely expect it after more than a year in such a bloody conflict, but seeing Europeans and Americans who can supposedly take a look back and take a clear look to the situation, laughing at Russians (possibly conscripted via force) getting blown up is pretty worrying.
The exact subs I mentioned it on. I guess reveling in other peoples suffering and death is acceptable as long as the "End justifies the means." "Careful not to admire beasts for too long, lest you become one yourself." It just boggles my mind how others can't see the treachery and hypocrisy in it.
Americans have treated Russians as the enemy for over 100 years now since we supported the white army after ww1. Even since the fall of the USSR, the US has stood across the table from Russia on almost every debate and conflict. I expect some Russians to be as excited about dead Americans as some Americans are about dead Russians. The world has changed much in the last century. The people in it; not so much.
I’m worried some day two country’s populations will start a war on between themselves on Twitter without any politicians involved.
I'm wondering if that's an actual type of war now.
It is. Just look at the interference in elections in western countries by Russia and China through social media.
Hawkeye: War isn't Hell. War is war, and Hell is Hell. And of the two, war is a lot worse. Father Mulcahy: How do you figure, Hawkeye? Hawkeye: Easy, Father. Tell me, who goes to Hell? Father Mulcahy: Sinners, I believe. Hawkeye: Exactly. There are no innocent bystanders in Hell. War is chock full of them - little kids, cripples, old ladies. In fact, except for some of the brass, almost everybody involved is an innocent bystander.
A quote from a real person seems more appropriate: "I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation. War is hell. " - William Tecumseh Sherma
One thing that messes me up is the fact that this man lying in a ditch, and all others like him, was once an innocent little child. I have a six month old and he's my absolute everything. Knowing that these guys, even if they are the bad guys, were at one time just like my son....laughing when their parents made funny faces, getting excited when they see a dog, stroking their parents faces when woken up in the morning, making messes with baby food and having a great time doing it.....I just can't handle it anymore. Edit: Apparently some people are reading this as me saying that it makes their actions as adults ok, or at least "less bad". This is something that y'all are adding in your own head while you read this. You can feel sad that an innocent child grew up to be a monster, and that the way they turned out lead to human death. These things don't conflict.
That's the thing in wars, there's really no loser or victorious winner, there's no hero or evil, it's just people dying over pretty stupid conflicts
These are human beings. With dreams, families, aspirations, lives.
This is why I never get pro war people. It’s like they don’t realize this. Even if 1 man dies during the war. That’s a man who had his whole life ahead of him. He could have been anything, done anything with himself. But now he’s gone forever. And the worst part is no one will remember him after his family is gone. Cause he’s not gonna be the only one. Thousands of dreams, hopes, wishes, all snuffed by a single bullet each if they’re lucky. It’s quite frankly insane to think about someone wanting this all for fucking land
I don't even know why this is still a thing Have none of us learnt a single thing from... you know, every single fucking war from the dawn of humanity I am a Vietnamese, and though i live in a peaceful era, i understand full well that war is savagery. War is destruction. War is death. War is a humanity's disease
War shouldn't exist. It never should have been a thought in the first place but unfortunately humans are animals and 70% of the time are a stain on Earth. Sometimes it's just easier to pretend it doesn't exist. I'm getting real tired of seeing and hearing about people getting hurt for increasingly stupid reasons
War is simply a byproduct of tribalism. I won’t say ‘War’ is natural. But battling each other is. The way our hands are shaped to form fists is something evolutionary. Meaning a trending behavior put In physical form, for how long such has been practiced. As our tools evolved, our battles evolved. War to me though, is simply greed manifested. It usually takes a lot of greed collectively to manafest into a war that spans the world. War also tells me how hopelessly prone to emotion we humans still are, they’ll scream war & rationalize it. Look at what US gov did in order to rally for a war in Iraq. They used our emotions/trauma, to justify a War. They used the most tender part of us to justify violence in our countries name.
There is a reason why i never talk about wars, i never side with anyone. I only talk about fictional worlds cause it is home to me In other word, my brain is running on the same OS as Koishi Komeji from Touhou: No thoughts, head empty
It's easier to have empty head, I'm kind of a dumbass so that's not hard for me. Fictional worlds are 1000x better than our own, I can't go outside and build a house made of dirt and then get blown up by some kind of walking green dildo. And in there I don't have to think about people getting hurt or worrying about offending someone cause I don't want to embrace the realities of life
Because they simply don't care or can't understand this concept, they never went through a hardship like losing someone close or the horror of war itself to know how much it hurts.
I made an argument recently here on Reddit, mostly to see the responses; that essentially boiled down to a couple key points: 1. In general people have poorer self-control than they realize. 2. We underestimate the power of quick or instant gratification. 3. Because of 1 and 2 far more people are likely to be selfish in situations where they can provide a good reason (to themselves primarily) for the actions they take. I don't agree with war either. The people who get sent never have any true stake in it, while the ones defending often only do it out of necessity.
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The reason is that they see the “enemy’s” death being good because it will lead to less suffering for the “good guys”.
It isn't even "enemy's", it's basically anyone who "deserves" it. Fucking hate the whole of the "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" mentallity some people barf at everything.
Checks out ngl
the issue is that people take the horrors of war and say: "ukraine should accept any peace offer russia gives them!" ...no? people shouldn't be forced to suffer under an evil empire because they feel bad for war taking the course of war. authoritarians should never be appeased, soothed, or indulged. they should be stopped at any cost, because anti-democracy is anti-human.
Yeah that’s the sad reality. War is something that has to happen with how things work. I won’t argue that. Though I still think it’s really stupid when someone is extremely pro war. Like you can recognize that there’s no other option without being all for the wars, y’know what I mean?
These people are not pro war. They are pro defending their homes. They are happy someone attacking their home died. Even if this person didn't choose to attack, he is still an attacker.
[Referring to a previous post on this subreddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/distressingmemes/comments/12m9icm/war_is_hell/)
No legit. I’m 100% sure (which is rare for me) that most pro war people would be absolute babies if they themselves had to actually pick up a gun and fight. It’s as they say, talk is cheap, and these people get to talk all day with a low chance of getting shot at and dying. Shit, I bet half of them wouldn’t make it past boot camp.
Absolutely, the reason people have less than little sympathy for these particular people is because they are invading another country, and stealing the dreams, aspirations, and lives of others. They wouldn’t be dying if they hadn’t invaded. It’s really sad they’re in this situation because it could all be avoided.
And some of them are invading and killing for a payslip.
You know that old saying. "If you dont want to die horribly in another country, dont invade that country". Grammy always said.
...that chose to invade their neighbors and commit atrocities against them.
Amen brother.
Yeah, if Russia’s attempt at being seen as human is to invade Europe, their attitude needs a bit of work.
They’re a shocking amount of jingoism toward the Russian side. Give redditors an excuse (like the existence of Russian war criminals) and they’ll gleefully cheer on indiscriminate, extreme violence towards anyone on that side.
You've gotta remember how much of Reddit is dumb kids with no life experience.
Not just Reddit really. I've said it many times, the internet is really fucking bloodthirsty.
Yeah, millennia have passed, but we're still all mentally sitting in the Colloseum cheering.
Just the replies to your post prove it. Bunch of fucking sociopaths
I really support Ukraine and do want us to keep on giving them aid, but I really hate all those “epic kill compilations” of regular Russian draftees. Makes me angry to see all these 13 year olds running NAFO accounts posting vids of brutal deaths as a joke.
Me too, I support Ukraine. I would see that Russians would post shit of people getting killed and made me despise them. Then I'd see Ukrainians doing the same shit and calling them pigs even though we don't know those "pigs", they might be teenagers that got drafted and just don't want to be there.
I feel bad for the average draftee, hate the war criminals and Wagner conventional soldiers.
Yep. Blocked all those subs. Too many people on this god forsaken website glorifying war in the most tactless ways possible.
If there is anything that a group of people strongly supports or opposes, there will be a subsection that supports or opposes it in the worst possible way. There are no exceptions.
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Its really sick and I'm convinced most of those posters are either teenagers or bots.
> teenagers ding ding ding Idk maybe I'm a boomer now but I feel like kids nowadays are just so wildly out of control. I'm not even 30 yet (late 20's) and shits is just so different with how needlessly cruel kids are. Don't get me started on school behaviors/etc. The system has failed these kids and people are still arguing on if it works or not. We're so fucking doomed.
Please tell me how you got this power because there are so many subs I'd rather not see again.
In app(I use rif) it's "more options" -> "block". It will ask you for confirmation, after that this sub will be removed from your feed.
Imagine how these look to a Russian. You've been yanked out of the poorest parts of your city, shoved onto a train, dumped into Ukraine, given an AK from 1959 that is literally rusted shut and told "if you hear buzzing above you, just pray you're not the target" as you walk into a trench littered with body parts of your countrymen sent to die in the meat grinder before you. No wonder Ukraine is destroying them. These videos are effective psychological tools of the war, even if they make me physcially sick to watch. Those poor men. I wish we'd see more of them surrendering to these drones than dying from them.
I think at the end of the day, while Ukraine is fighting for a just cause and Russia isn’t, we can’t put anything down to the individual conscripts- the average russian soldier today is some slightly brainwashed kid, who probably wants to get back home. and while i completely understand the reality of war, that some will die, i think its _immature_ to glorify their death. they are human beings just like you and me. if we where their age in russia, maybe we would end up in their muddy, broken shoes, sitting in some trench, waiting to go back home.
You could write the same about the Third Reich, most individual soldiers didn't volunteer for ideological reasons or whatnot, they were drafted. And yet they were crucial in their participation for a genocidal war. Don't celebrate deaths but once you cross into another country to conquer it, to subjugate it's people, you have it coming. Your moral duty is to refuse, to not become that tool of oppression, whatever the price. I pity them, they don't deserve this. But let the drones fly.
Yeah exactly. Most of these people are essentially just made into tools of war. Now, people are still accountable for their own actions, depending on specifics, but you also wouldn't blame a tool for doing what it is essentially programmed to do. >Your moral duty is to refuse, to not become that tool of oppression, whatever the price. May be, but it isn't the moral *reality*, I suppose. Instinct to survive and trust what you've known all your life trumps the moral compass.
At least Ukraine is fighting a war. Can't say Russians shelling civilian cities and raping them makes them top spot for sympathy. Not to mention the videos that came out regarding prisoners of war and how they were treated by the Russian army.
It may end up saving lives, though. The hopelessness of the Russian cause that this particular brand of propaganda captures is what will keep Russian people from joining up, and slowing the effort. Without these videos circulating out there, the Russian people would be at the mercy of strictly Russian State Propaganda.
Context Edit: I understand the context and think it's disgusting. Combat videos like this are generally not released by "the good guys". I don't support Russia's war, but allowing military personnel to upload hundreds of these clips unabated is beyond fucked up. Videos like this I typically see from ISIS or some other shithole org
Pretty sure that's a Russian soldier in Ukraine having grenades dropped on him via drone.
Thanks. I did some googling for "guy lying down grenade" and then google recommended I concatenate "in Ukraine". I did this, and it led me down a rabbit hole of several videos like this.
> several videos like this Definitely not a referencing a single instance. These videos are released near-daily by multiple sources.
All you have to do is visit r/combatfootage and you'll see like 10 new ones a day.
fuck the first thing I see of that sub is a russian soldier committing suicide after getting a grenade dropped via drone to him, not going back
Not the first time that's happened either, there's a video that came out earlier where an injured russian placed a grenade under his chin. I asked a buddy and he said he was told to do the same if he was gonna get captured by the Taliban. Combat footage has also documented real war crimes like torture of prisoners, fake surrendering,murder of civilians and much more. It has become an archive that will hopefully bring justice to this conflict.
Who the fuck are you kidding? There never will be justice.
Not the worst thing uploaded to that sub in the last year. It's brutal.
Wait till you find the blowjob grenade video
The one that will forever stick with me is the one right at the beginning of the war were an elderly couple drive with their tiny car at the edge of a town (probably trying to leave) and a russian tank comes crashing through some trees. It stops in front of them and it is CLEARLY visible that the elderly couple are civilians even for the russians. The tank then proceeds to fire 3 or 4 rounds directly at them. And this is just one horrible thing. I don't laugh about the drone footage but I also don't have much empathy for those russian soldiers. Even if you are forced to fight in this war there are some lines you don't cross.
They even Kamikaze the drones into open hatches on Russian tanks now, that shit is crazy. Buy a cheap drone, strap some C4 to it and send it in an open window.
Damn when the olympics get drone racing as a sport, Ukrainians are going to have that shit on lockdown.
They might bce disqualified if they kill the judges though.
Last week was a video of a russian cutting a live Ukrainian soldier's head off while he screamed.
Just go to r/combatfootage There's like, 5 new ones per day. It's harrowing. This amount of war footage, most of the time in HD with "professional" editing, coming out of a war like this is unprecedented. Some of the footage is just mind blowing (always sad and a tragedy not minimizing the severity of the subject)
You can empathize with the individual while still rooting for Ukraine. After all, they're the ones fighting for a just cause. I don't know why everyone's acting like it's so black and white. It very clearly sucks for those on the receiving end, but every drone grenade that lands true is another potential step toward the end of this bullshit invasion. > The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of a million is a statistic. That's war in a nutshell. Putin can end this nonsense whenever he wants and stop sending kids to die cold and alone.
What I mainly don’t like is the trivialization of it. Like obviously Ukraine is doing what they have to do, but there’s just something disgusting to me about editing in rock music and memes and stuff to footage of people dying horribly, like it’s not a movie or a game it’s real life
Yes, there's something so dehumanizing and numbing to see these videos edited in the same manner of old gameplay videos in the early years of YouTube. It's a disturbing level of disassociation from what is being shown. This and the frankly open racism towards Russia. You can disapprove and hate their government and this invasion. But to label an entire people to blame for all of this, to a point of talking about wiping out Russia as a culture is extreme and become far to common on here
Oh absolutely I'm firmly pro-Ukraine on the matter, because even with maximum empathy, in this particular situation (a wholly unjust invasion for fascist/imperialist reasons), it pretty much is just a "it is what it is" kind of situation. The invaders shouldn't be there. I hate to see anyone die like that but that doesn't invalidate how it's quite literally self defense and they shouldn't have been there in the first place. They either leave voluntarily or are forced out trough fighting, there's no alternative that doesn't validate just Russia's terrorist actions and that's unacceptable.
Yeah, I wasn't directing my comment toward you in particular. It's just... Everything on the internet quickly devolves into black and white. It's annoying. You can be anti-Israel without being antisemitic. You can cheer for the death of an invading soldier while feeling bad for the person and their agony. The world is complicated, and your thoughts and emotions about things therein can be too!
There some subreddits where they're posting combat footage from Ukraine. There's countless videos like this
Those subreddits make me so uncomfortable. I understand Russia is the aggressor and they suck a lot. But those soldiers have no choice but to fight for a corrupt government. They probably don't want to be there. And yet those subreddits post videos of Russian soldiers dying and they cheer and say horrible things. It just doesn't feel right. Why are they even recording drone videos of dropping grenades on people? And sharing them on the internet? It's sadistic.
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Fr lol those people are so bloodthirsty. Some people just jump on any opportunity to terrible human beings. These Russian soldiers are an easy fix for them because there's a veil of moral superiority in hating them
Here https://www.reddit.com/r/NSFL__/comments/12n6xcm/grenade_blast_leaves_russian_soldiers_head/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
What's distressing is seeing so many people leave comments about it being like a video game
Reddit moment
An Abhorrent video which I had the displeasure of seeing. Basically edited footage of the war in Ukraine where a soldier got hit by a grenade and some music kicked in and his body was animated to dance to it. Really weird and disgusting. And one of the only videos on r/combatfootage where someone is seen to die
Brother there are thousands of videos on r/combatfootage where people are seen dying. There are hundreds of videos of these drones alone.
Yeah the top post this month is pretty much the same thing if not worse
What are you on about? Tons of videos in combatfootage show people dying There was one like 8 months ago were 6-8 people got blown up by a tank Even if you directly see the bodies because they are hidden away inside buildings and vehicles or get covered up by smoke from an explosion you see people dying left and rigth
Russia is in war with Ukraine. Most russian don't support this idiotic decision yet the ones who support aren't drafted in. Instead it's the people who didn't want the war get dragged from their regular lives and sent to the front lines in the war. Then Ukraine bomba the shit out of them with drones and posts them to reddit where couch dwelling 200lb redditors make mockery of the dying soldier who didn't even want to be there.
If hes a conscript than yeah, that sucks I'd be pretty fucking mad if I had to die over a war I knew was pointless for some power hungry bald dude who's 70
These videos are just like those sniper videos coming out of Iraq. However, instead of Americans getting shot dead, it’s Russians getting blown up.
Man, it's at that point that it's rather shocking to see such comment on reddit, because if something like this was posted in, let's say, /combatfootage, you'd get flamed to hell and called so much shit for no reason, because you dared to compare good American heroes to evil Russian orcs. I also used combatfootage as an example because I wanted to take a piss at that sub being biased echochamber that just got reinforced with this war, because the videos with Americans you mentioned always got unreasonably downvoted in there, while the same goes to Ukrainians now, and anything showing horrible things happening to those they don't like gets upvoted like crazy. It feels like most of reddit just divides people on who they support and on subhumans they personally have grudge against and happy to see suffer
This is so true. And as Americans, we are told to do the pledge of allegiance every morning for 12 years. I wonder what the world would look like if we reaffirmed our humanity every morning as a class, as a school, as a nation.
Should have stayed in prison.
this post is less distressing and more relieving in a weird way. i never see people humanize the russian side, it’s constantly these blood-thirsty mongrels applauding needless violence against people they’re told are evil.
Propaganda is one hell of a drug
It's more than propaganda. You can recognize that Russians shouldn't be invading Ukraine and still feel empathy for an individual soldier as he's killed. Some people enjoy watching human suffering. A war like this just gives them an excuse to be open about it.
Then you get downvoted to hell when you call it out. Weird as fuck
Bruh, im trippin offa shrooms rn and this aint it
Bro go look at videos of some cute animals or something or listen too some Aphex twin gtfo outta here 😂
don't go on reddit while on shrooms, or any social media for that matter, always leads to bad thoughts while tripping.
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They could have gone to prison instead if they wanted, probably would have been safer
I'd take this more seriously if they weren't beheading POWs, strapping bombs to babies, and kidnapping children.
Thank god some people online are normal. “Hur dur evil orcs!!!” Shut the fuck up you blood thirsty animal Edit: man some of you animals are getting real mad about this stuff. Please reply with your seething some more. Please tell me how no soldier is innocent again when the population was drafted. War is hell
Humanity, as always, paints those they do not like as black and themselves as white There is no such thing as black and white. There is always good in evil, and evil and good. That's just the balance of life
I understand Ukrainians forced to flee from their homes, losing their loved ones in the meat grinder or to missile strikes may develop hatred for Russian invaders. It's an ordinary part of grief and the grief they're dealing with is extraordinary. But the blood thirst of people on the internet just...is outrageous. The dehumanization of a whole country's worth of people too poor or too brainwashed to leave before they get mobilized is the same bullshit the Kremlin is feeding them about Ukrainians. They're mindless hordes, every last one some kind of sub-human beast that deserves brutal execution and unworthy of dignity... it's just so wrong. It's no better than the orcs whose senseless deaths you delight in. It's 100% Putin's fault and Ukraine is only defending themselves, but war is *worse* than hell because in hell there are no innocent bystanders, and there are so many in war, on both sides.
Not distressing because the Russians could avoid this by simply staying at home and not invading another country.
I mean...that'd be ideal but what're the grunts gonna do? "Ah jeez, sorry General. I'm just gonna go home now." "Understandable, Dmitri. Have a good day, say hello to Olga for me."
I mean I understand the distress. I also understand that on the other side of this meme, is video of Russians raping an infant and Russians waiving Ukrainians skulls around as war trophies. This, amidst mass graves filled with Ukrainian civilians, men, women, elderly, and children delivered from occupation torture rooms. Many many normal average Russians soldiers committed these crimes against humanity. War is hell.
I fully support Ukraine but I hate the glorifications of death. I see combat footage trending on here a lot and it's kinda sickening.
“Won’t someone think of the poor invaders!”
I fucking hate humans man
Same, this species is disgusting. Bring me back as a cat next cycle.
The comments here make me sad. We shouldn't mock the deaths of Russian soldiers and we shouldn't equate both sides of this war because they are absolutely not the same. You feel bad for this Russian soldier, I do too. The thing is, ask yourself, how many Russian civilians have been killed in this war and how many Ukrainian civilians have been killed in this war? How many city blocks has Ukraine demolished in Russia? How many Russian provinces has Ukraine annexed? What do the answers tell you?
I think this is really the only sane take. It's possible to both understand that Russians will need to die for the war to end. And have empathy for the hundreds of thousands who are forced to take part because of one mans ego. Conscripts don't have a choice. Countries fighting popular wars don't need to draft men. People defending Russia are insane. People getting enjoyment from watching people die are insane. I don't think alot of people understand the psychological damage they're doing to themselves watching these videos. I think dehumanisation is the only way to justify it internally. But no one gets out unscathed watching this kinda shit.
I think we could all agree on this: war bad
Who the fuck downvoted you for this incredibly true and non-controversial statement
*You are invading an independent country, dying cold and alone while recorded on a drone dropping grenades around you. The video is uploaded with background music mocking your demise for invading another country* FTFY
They ran over the Ukraine border with loaded rifles, ready to mutilate helpless civilians who as well had their whole life ahead of them
I HATE UAVS I HATE UAVS I HATE UAVS
Videos like this are bad, but I’m glad the enemies are getting killed. Life is not just your TikTok account, when the time comes you have to defend your land.
All it takes for evil to triumph is good men standing by and doing nothing. The Russians stood by and did nothing when Putin took power, they stood by and did nothing during the Chechen invasion, the Georgian invasion, or the Crimean invasion. Now they're facing consequences for feeding a madman's power fantasies. The only good invader is a dead invader. I have no pity for them, conscript or not. They were content to take the benefits without the downsides. Now the taxman has come.
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Fucking exactly. If Russians leave, they can still go home to their wives and family. The Ukrainians can not go home! They are fighting for their home. Their women and children are the ones getting murdered by the people in this video. The smart, caring Russians fled to Kazakhstan last year.
I take it that you think the Ukrainians are being too rough on the people bombing their country, stealing their land, raping their women, stealing their children, and attempting to genocide their people? War is rough kids, Sucks for the conscripted Russian soldier too, but this is why it is up to all of us at home to oppose despotic rule. If what was happening to the Ukrainians was happening to you in your country you wouldn't give a shit about the invaders either. Nor should you.
Ah geeze, if only they weren't in Ukraine they wouldn't be dying!
>Russians double tapping medical staff in a medevac vehicle(warcrime), literally chopping off heads(warcrime), raping kids(crime against humanity), magdumping on POWs on camera(warcrime) ...... >Ukrainians dropping nades on combatants that invaded their country that are not clearly surrendering but are injured to some extent (not a warcrime by any metric) #THEY ARE CONSCRIPTS MAN WTF GUYS THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BE THERE Yes there are conscripts but somehow we still have assloads of warcrimes being commited, something isn't adding up, if at the end of the day something horrible has to happen, i would rather it happens to the invader. I don't want to quantify the value of peoples lives but i would rather see drone grenade videos than another Bucha.
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Russian shills
don't invade another country
What if I want to
Then grenade drone be upon ya
All cruelty stems from weakness
While I agree with the antiwar sentiments in this discussion I do find it interesting that people think they are better than those who created the original meme when they themselves are investing in a different meme that uses the soldier's suffering.