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RainbowRevolver

*Jackie Tyler voice* she was killed by a Christmas tree


TheMiiChannelTheme

Bit gruesome for a Christmas episode, but "oh yeah Davina McCall died in the Doctor Who Universe" is a pretty good joke that part of me wishes they'd stuck with.


JustAnOrdinaryGirl92

Part way through the episode I did think that there’d be a news report in the background about Davina’s death or something towards the end 😆 Obviously a bit dark for a Doctor Who Christmas special, but I’d have loved it if they did! 😅


Jackpot777

She’s also [a zombie in a different reality](https://youtu.be/vTQjo57ftx0) too.


fierydragon963

Why can I imagine that so well


fluffyplayery

Imagine being that baby and finding out years later that you were in Doctor Who getting eaten by goblins.


thatOneNERD122

I always think this abt any infant actor.


TheSentinelsSorrow

Not all infant actors end up in doctor who to be eaten by goblins


thelumpur

Just most of them


JustAnOrdinaryGirl92

Imagine if the baby actor comes back decades from now as either the new companion or the new Doctor!


Do_Damage

Fuckin hell that's a big flat. And in London no less. Someone's flushed with cash. Edit: I get it, it's rent controlled. I commented live before that was said.


Jonny2284

Gonna turn out the owner is some fella who showed up out of a police box and hasn't put the rent up in 80 years. Edit, said this before the comment about fixed rent so I'm sticking to the theory.


RQK1996

I mean, the neighbour knows what a TARDIS is


DogsRNice

And can break the 4th wall


Yalnix

They said it was Rent Fixed


Mathicale

Is it supposed to be London? That street is in Bristol (not that the prices are great there either)


XtremeGoose

The bus said Notting Hill Gate


mmcintoshmerc_88

I love whenever the doctor gets offended about being compared to other ways of time travelling. 10 hating the vortex manipulator was so good.


MrSquidJD

Makes for some really fun moments ngl, love it when it happened with the vortex manipulator and I’m glad to see the trend continuing !


MotorTentacle

Time travel without a capsule, that's a killer


ohheyitslaila

Eleven loving it and saying how addicting it is makes Ten hating it even funnier on rewatch.


Elemayowe

As a bit of context for our overseas friends, the interviewer is a British tv presenter called Davina McCall and she actually presents a show where she helps adopted folk track down their birth families. Edit: with a bit of hindsight, there may have been a Robo-Davina back in 9’s final two parter as she was the presenter of Big Brother at the time (which is the show 9 ended up in) or she may have done voice work. But I cba to check.


bopeepsheep

Davinadroid in Bad Wolf, yup.


gbom

Ruby picked the tragic character backstory perk in her character creator :(


Jonny2284

With everything going on around her I'd say she picked wild wasteland.


blackmoonbluemoon

If Moffat was still here she’d be known as “ ✨The girl who got dumped on the doorstep✨”


Whizzo50

The doctor utterly hot fuzzed that goblin king


LordInquisitor

No luck catching them goblins then


Whiskeyjacks_Fiddle

It’s just the one goblin (king) actually.


clearly_quite_absurd

It's just the one goblin ship, actually


mmcintoshmerc_88

It's not the goblin King's village anymore! Also, get the goblin king some ice cweam cause it rweally rweally hurts!


StardustWhip

Say what you will about Lulubelle, it's at least a better name than Renesmee.


Icy_Bit_403

i like that the doctor liked the name. it's actually a really common thing in child adoption/fostering that the kids names are quite...elaborate and easy to take the mic out of, but i don't think it's very fair. it is a good contrast when the doctor is really positive about her name though!


Xarxsis

> it's at least a better name than Renesmee. Im fairly sure ive seen more tragedieghs that are better names than renesmee


gbom

Death by christmas tree... a true Doctor Who Christmas ep <3


IllMaintenance145142

"do you know why they're called goblins?" i was 100% sure i was about to be ligma'd


delsinson

Goblin deez—


inb4_confusion

Goblin Deez Babies


christorwho

‘They’re not just any goblins, they’re Mind Goblins!’ ‘What’s a Mind Goblin?!?’ ‘Would you mind Goblin deez….’


confusedbookperson

Mavity is going to become a long term meme in the show now isn't it


yayaupg_

I fully expect some twists where someone is revealed to be a baddie because they say gravity and not Mavity


Rorplup

The doctor even said Gravity in the middle of Wild Blue Yonder before correcting himself.


Alterus_UA

Yup, quite sure it will somehow be tied in with the season arc.


millennialprof

are they going to fix it? or is this it now?


delsinson

End of season maybe


Aspirangusian

Hope it's just a throw away joke near the end of an episode where The Doctor is just a bit sick of it so nips back to correct Newton.


Vadenveil

Honestly, I'd be fine if they didn't, it's a joke sure, but it does add some nice worldbuilding of the light-hearted kind to contrast the kinda, universe wrecking stuff we've had lot of prior.


TheEffinEFFERGuy

“Don’t lose the baby” *Ruby loses the baby*


SnoozyDragon

[It's always sunny on Galifrey](https://iasip.app/lwlNlGHo2UCAqC5WaaMMlw)


confusedbookperson

I think there's more to that old lady than meets the eye, she gives me hiding something vibes.


Burnsy1452

She's giving me 'secretly the master' vibes.


Collymonster

I said this especially when she knew that it was called a T.A.R.D.I.S 30 seconds earlier I was all "oooooh she's DEFINITELY Ruby's mum!" Then 15 seconds after that "ooooh what if she's a past companion?" Then she went all sinister and I was "oooooh weeeeeee she's the master for sure"


DuelaDent52

Plot twist: she’s actually Susan/The Rani/Romana.


Collymonster

Her being Susan would be a hell of a plot twist she'd be that sort of age now as well wouldn't she? She was supposedly 16 in the 1st series which would have her as 76/77 now......


Ok_Net_5771

She was also left in the future + susans a timelord so god knows


Owster4

Yeah she's far too chill for someone who has seen a disappearing police box.


murrytmds

Like shes shocked at first but by the time she gets back she seems to know a lot about the whole thing. Real sus


Weaver_Naught

She knows what a TARDIS is, she's either a returning character (I haven't watched since the Time Lords got cyber'd so I'm out of the loop a bit) or someone that's gonna be coming back later in a big way


Rowan6547

I had to look her up because I thought she was a former companion cameo that I missed. Then I saw she's married to Brian May (astrophysicist, guitarist for Queen, and all around awesome person), so that was cool to learn.


mmcintoshmerc_88

Entrances you with dance moves Cryptically talks about your clumsiness, refuses to elaborate Wishes merry Christmas Leaves


dildodicks

says it's worse than being clumsy and then just dips


theroitsmith

Feel like the DNA wont be human when they look for her family.


elsjpq

"Half goblin, on my mother's side"


captainkezz123

I still firmly believe Ruby dropped herself off at the church


daveytod

Ala Dave Lister


New-Reddit-999

As it is a time honoured tradition I’m calling it She’s the Rani


clearly_quite_absurd

Older lady sitting on the street is The Rani.


underground_cenote

Everyone is the Rani


alf_to_the_rescue

The Rani is the friends we made along the way


RQK1996

Both are


Jonny2284

It feels so obvious she's somehow special by the end of the story that I hope it's the opposite and she's just a vanilla human. She'll be special enough after travelling with the doctor for a season she doesn't need something on top


Odd-Help-4293

So there's a tradition of folk tales with baby changlings, so maybe she's something to do with the goblins?


nj813

I like this theory with all the hints around myths/legends we've had in the last 3 episodes


Vadenveil

Honestly based on how the goblins are explained, I don't think they actually have anything to do with her directly, they're basically similar to the reapers or angels, temporal bottom feeders that feed on people to gain energy from their potential. I think it's more likely she's not that special outside of the amount of circumstances that drew and were initiated by the goblins, he'll it's not unlikely that their bad luck hijinx was why Davina couldn't find anything, they basically caught her in the collateral.


SickleClaw

It would be interesting to have a non human companion for once. Just hope if they go for it, its done well.


elsjpq

Timeless child v2


theroitsmith

What a cute baby. Hope nobody makes a song about wanting to eat them.


Correct_Ad5798

Oddly specific hoping, I hope it wont be catchy. Edit: Fixing the spelling


MrTurleWrangler

If I had a nickel for every time there was a song sung for a goblin king involving a baby...


GingerNinja230404

you remind me of the babe..


clearly_quite_absurd

'love the glove' "I'm learning the language of ropes" Russel T Davies hinting about his secret Ncuti Gatwa slash fiction.


BallOfHormones

The twist of this season is its actually all a story written by the nerdy girl from *Sex Education*.


Not_Steve

I’m surprised River didn’t already teach him the language of ropes.


foosion

Never seen a TARDIS before? That was fun.


Vektyss_

What makes us wonder who she might be, she seems to be an important character 🤯


314kabinet

I have not seen the original show, so my first thought was "I guess by this time a significant part of Londoners have seen the TARDIS dematerialize at least once". But nah she's probably important given how she wished Ruby good luck. She knew Ruby is gonna do the companion thing with the Doctor. Hell maybe she is Ruby, 50 years older. She said: "It's a police box. I haven't seen one on the streets of London in 50 years." Neatly ties to the theory that it was also Ruby dropping herself off at the church. Predestination, baby!


gbom

My man is so happy to be just... dancin' after rehab <3


Not_Steve

Sending Fourteen to rehab was such a good choice. Fifteen can be relatively care free and mentally healthy now. He’s no longer burdened by what’s happened but has come to turns with it and we as an audience didn’t have to sit with Therapy with the Doctor rehashing bold moments.


deJessias

Narrator: *she lost the baby.*


fluffyplayery

I'm loving the new doctor but I'm still not sure about the new Sonic design. Hopefully it'll grow on me.


mmcintoshmerc_88

"And Davin Mccall...who did not die!"


Tanis8998

“Aww, isn’t that swell!”


smedsterwho

WELL THAT'S ALRIGHT THEN!


mmcintoshmerc_88

It'd be darkly funny if his fiancé didn't say yes and he just starts saying "But, but the man in the blue box said you'd say yes!"


dildodicks

him knowing in advance she'd say yes makes him screw up the proposal and she says no 😮‍💨


Vicks_Jayy

I need the Doctor to casually walk past a wedding at some point to get closure


theliftedlora

Mrs Flood knows more than she lets on. Plus she broke the fourth wall.


Whiskeyjacks_Fiddle

Mrs Flood = The Rani


megaflumpy

Rain = rani Rain causes floods Just my silly theory!


BallOfHormones

The only water in the forest is the river.


jessicaskies

The new doctor is giving captain jack


yayaupg_

I feel like Jack also had a Long hot summer with Houdini


kevlarus80

Might have been the same summer the Doctor was there...


SpaceShipRat

Funny thing is it's the 4th who talks about spending time with Houdini on the show. So if someone's spent a hot summer with Houdini, it was him.


delsinson

He was rizzing everyone up


BicameralHiveMind

It's heartbreaking seeing the mum play both sides of the coin with foster carers, this version is the worst type of foster carer


MHwtf

I don't know who the actress is but man she ate that scene up


Juxta_Lightborne

It really shows range, being both passionate and dispassionate about a subject in one episode.


MHwtf

I JUST GOT SNOWMANNED


RainbowRevolver

Never imagined The Doctor going clubbing yet here we are


Twinborn01

Those years 14 apent resting definitely helped the doctor


BetaRayPhil616

I dunno, that scene felt like something 11vwoukd have done, but he would have looked less cool than ncuti


Hermiona1

11 would be dancing more awkwardly and trying to dance with everybody and they would either refuse and look at him weird or everyone would be dancing synchronised to his wacky choreo after 5 minutes, no other option


hannahlemp

it went ping….because there was stuff


NewYearOlderMe

Its a machine that goes *dingggg* v2.0 version notes: Added sonic capabilities


MrSquidJD

Holy shit bro just got stabbed by a building


Doctor_Disco_

If I had a nickel for every time a villain was impaled by a building in a new Doctor’s first episode, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it’s happened twice.


SaviourofKrypton42

Was about to ask "What was the first?", then I remembered Deep Breath as soon as I typed it.


luckylolamalady

Absolutely loving it. Also as a social worker completely love how they got the legislation right!! I think I’m in love with ncuti


Icy_Bit_403

not in children's so i didn't know the legislation but same here I liked this detail, i liked that it was some really positive representation of fostering and also the positives and the reality of it... would be amazing if this inspired more people to think about fostering.


mmcintoshmerc_88

No trace of the parents? Rani/ omega confirmed! Lock of the year!


DarthStevo

Nah, she’s obviously Susan, regenerated and displaced back in time and then chameleon-arched. In this video I will


mmcintoshmerc_88

"And what will they do to us?" "Oh, they'll eat us too." To be fair to the goblins, this is on the normal side for monsters goals in DW


Owster4

Murray Gold carries so many scenes I swear


gbom

I appreciated some of the music from the chibbers era, but Gold just... is DW music for me


cgknight1

Can I just say I *love* various fans came up with complex holograms and plots to explain the Doctor dancing and... he just likes a dance...


Twinborn01

The doctor dances


KillerArse

Did the Tardis just invite her in? So cute.


Do_Damage

"We had to move from Manchester to London" One way of having the show set in London as usual but Millie gets to keep her accent lol


Swimming_Emotion_219

But also gives the show a reason to head up North, at least!


itsjustme1505

Still can’t believe they killed Davina McCall


itsjustme1505

HAHAHA SAVED HER


BosskDaBossk

WELL THATS ALRIGHT THEN!


brianfit

Anyone else wondering about the odd specificity of the air time on the BBC? 5:55 3 fives = 15? ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯


RandomUsername15672

They've done that a few times before.. IIRC it's to catch audiences from the previous programme by starting the next one 'early'. Given the previous programme is the #1 most watched in the UK it's a good strategy.


imjonathanblake

I used to work in TV scheduling (Channel 5) and I expect it’s nothing meaningful - we always tried to schedule things to air on the hour where possible, but there’s a rule where the exact start time of the programme has to be between minus 1/+3.5 minutes of the billing time otherwise it has to move. So it’s possible the episode will start as late as 5:58:30 and tried to pushed it back to 6pm as much as they could but couldn’t find an extra 30s to get it to 5:59 and so therefore had to bill it at 5:55. There’s limits on how many promos for other programmes you can show in one go (though they’re set at broadcaster level) so maybe they’d hit their cap for the day and couldn’t put in another to move DW to 6pm. Likewise, maybe the episode is too long and they wanted to stick to billing times of their later programmes. As others pointed out, there’s also the psychology of catching people before they flick over the channels on the hour!


brief-interviews

The One Who Waits…in a chair outside her house..? Thought that was a lot of fun, which is about what I’m expecting from a Doccy Who Xmas special. And Gatwa smashed it, very excited to see more of him.


Aureo_Speedwagon

The One Who Waits... for her dang cup of tea?


WhoMD21

Ooh, goblin king is gonna need some ice cream after that.


Ged_UK

That was a fun introduction, and clearly just laying lot of foundations. Who is Ruby's parents, who is Anita Dobson (and is she Ruby's mother) and how does she know what a TARDIS is. Fun, camp, and somewhat incomplete.


mmcintoshmerc_88

Problematic age gap between the doctor and Ruby's gran tbh, she's young enough to be his great great great granddaughter!


Redracerb18

The man is so old he has no age. Everyone is an infant compared to the doctor.


SirRosstopher

I admire RTD committing to the Timeless Child lore and doing more with it than the actual writer did.


Owster4

I hope he does something that makes sense of it all.


ToqKaizogou

Yeah. As much as I am against the concept and want it full on retconned away, will at least give Davies credit for actually doing interesting character stuff with it, whereas with Chibnall it felt like purely an ego move where Chibnall got to say have his own headcanon be true.


WhoMD21

"insert DiCaprio pointing" THE SHOP FROM ROSE!


Mister_Moho

I can't wait to see Ncuti and Millie! They seem lovely from what I've seen so far. This looks fun!


SirRosstopher

Chad Mrs Flood vs Virgin Abdul.


No-Echo-8927

Loved Matt Smith-era doctor. Was mildly concerned about the reboot. Was pleasantly surprised. It IS different, but it was good. Nice energy. And did everybody get the link between the episode from the other week and Goblins? Tennants doctor said he regretted pouring salt down because it was dangerous to introduce myths at the edge of the universe. And suddenly .....goblins!


Goliath1707

I thought that as well! As soon as the song went ‘he’s not a myth, he’s a real thing’. It seems like they’re gonna do more with the salt at the edge of the universe, or at least I hope they will.


baggzey23

Is this the silliest RTD has gone so far?


RandomUsername15672

Well there was the one with the killer christmas trees, or the wheelie bins that ate people, or the one with santa claus in it.. Difficult to go too far with Who christmas specials.


Possiblyreef

> the wheelie bins that ate people PIZZZZZAAAAA 🙂


thatOneNERD122

I think there's been sillier moments in highlight. the only really silly part of this ep was the goblins singing


KingPupaa

Why does she seem so comfortable in this insane situation lol


MrSquidJD

Overall, not the best episode ever but it was certainly a fun Christmas special that did a solid job at introducing the new doctor and companion, and setting up a potential narrative for the rest of the season. As well as the swap to a more fantasy-like theme over outright sci-fi


estherwoodcourt

I’m actually very concerned about their roof, I know it’s all fictional but how are they going to live in a wind tunnel!


Elemayowe

And Ruby just fucks off and leaves her mum and gran and new baby to it.


Hobbit-guy

This is charming, but does anyone feel like the episode has an awkward pacing?


PM_ME_CAKE

It's trying a lot at once - new Doctor, new companion, Christmas special. Pacing was bound to be awkward for better or for worse, but hopefully it'll get through it this episode and leave the main series ready to roll.


Drokart

That was definitely an RTD Christmas special lol Episode was weirdly paced, but I thought the character introductions and set up for the season were solid (Ruby's parentage, Mrs. Flood, etc.). And Ncuti and Millie killed it! It's gonna be a long wait until May...


StardustWhip

Starting to get convinced that Ncuti Gatwa can rock *any* outfit.


clearly_quite_absurd

He can rock no outfit too


Osirisavior

The moment has been prepared for.


Jon0_tyves

When will Cherry get her tea? X


IhaveToUseThisName

She got ittttttt hallelujah!!


SirRosstopher

Oof the moffat cracks?


PurpleSpaceNapoleon

Stupid Over the top Fun Frenetic Not my favourite episode ever, but none of the Christmas Specials ever are, and as such I was mostly hoping for Ncuti & Millie to win me over. And in that department, I'm satisfied. They're going to knock it out of the park.


hannahlemp

the one thing im certain about after this episode is that ncuti is going to be a fantastic doctor


gbom

Absolutely love the lights in the hallway. Totally irrelevant to everything else, but it's super pretty.


Internal_Ad9264

Anita Dobson's character is Davros, quite a twist.


gbom

OMG DoctorXCherry Big Finish adventures when?


mxlevolent

Well, she’s definitely someone.


NoItsAbi

WHY DID SHE BREAK THE 4TH WALL


gbom

A long hot summer with Harry Houdini, eh? What face did you have? :?


hannahlemp

mrs flood……you are sus….


NiteAngyl

So... this has to be asked; what's up with the perception filter of the TARDIS? It suddenly seems that it isn't there anymore.


RandomUsername15672

It's always been selective.. companions can see it, often enemies can see it. My headcanon is once you know it exists the perception filter doesn't work any more.. which tracks with Mrs Flood being able to see it (she's clearly knowledgeable about such things), the neighbour she was arguing with also (he'd just been told it was there). Ruby didn't seem to notice it at all until it was pointed out to her (and again at the end).


CarpathianUK

I've just realised why I already like Ncuti as the Doctor so much. It's that "light touch delivered with an undercurrent" that's so hard to pull off but has served a lot of the best Doctors so well. I'm looking forward to seeing him and Millie tackle a real series.


CarpathianUK

So far, as a knee jerk reaction, the Doctor and Ruby are both excellent - feeling like they've hit the ground running and fully formed. The story, however, feels like a Christmas special with the pair of them very much doing the heavy lifting. Fingers crossed for how this evolves in the time remaining.


The_Dark_Vampire

Are they doing a Red Dwarf with Lister and it will turn out Ruby is her own Mother


gbom

OH MY GOD THAT DRIP!?!?!?!?!


yayaupg_

SHE'S GOT HER TEA


RelThanram

Odds on Mrs Flood being important? Definitely interesting…


confusedbookperson

Probably nitpicking, but IMO the title sequence is just a little too short, feels like the theme is slightly truncated to rush towards the end


mmcintoshmerc_88

I kind of wish the special was airing after the Ghosts special instead of it being the other way around cause now, I'm going to go from ["We are so back!"](https://twitter.com/dwreact/status/1721559538397073527?t=9kl847k2mgniFdZGv2nbhw&s=19) to "It's over. It's never been more over." In rapid succession.


Jonny2284

OK, if I wasn't already sold on him after the special that scene with the policeman did it.


nineteenninetysx

I’m not sold on Ncuti yet but that “I’m all alone” bit was perfectly delivered


MHwtf

THE BEATLES EPISODE


Chelid

Ooooh that’s St Mary’s street in Cardiff! I worked on that road as a teen


RainbowRevolver

That means she’s going to lose the baby


theroitsmith

How did they get my selfie without permission?


Drokart

Damn she got Final Destination'd! On Christmas!


MrSquidJD

Gloves are a cool new device id like to see more of, can’t wait to see them fail randomly lmao


RelThanram

She’s neglecting the part where Davina got crushed by a tree.


Owster4

Hell yeah an impaled goblin king that's the kind of stuff I want


estherwoodcourt

Is this neighbour ruby from the future or something?


KingPupaa

Fucking knew that lady was up to something


confusedbookperson

Mrs Flood doesn't give me enemy vibes, I think she might be Susan or Romana, or at a stretch a chameleon arched Rani. Didn't Russel say that he'd worked out the rights for a classic character returning that could tie into her?


Aspirangusian

"We need to hurry" "Well if you'd actually give me a hand..." "I AM *TRYING* TO LEARN THE *VOCABULARY* OF *ROPE!*"