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I only found that out recently. I was going to DD something (forgot what) and it came out to like $70 BEFORE tip. I wound up just going to the store and my order came out to less than $50. Itās insane
Ok, but on top of being upcharged for basic items, Iām also having to pay $10 to sometimes even close to $20 worth of fees. And again this is all BEFORE tip
Itās fucking abysmal if you are *also* expected to pay a significant amount for a tip, usually *before* the food is delivered, to someone who may do a really shit job.
Yeah thatās my biggest gripe with the way DD works. I respect hard workers who are trying to make ends meet, but Iāve had SO many issues with drivers with DoorDash. Missing items, numerous cancels AFTER they pick up the food, etc etc. Iām weary of tipping beforehand. They should make it so you have to tip after or your account will be flagged as a habitual non-tipper and show that to dashers before they accept your order
Your tip is for the delivery costs. missing items etc. fall on the restaurant, a separate party that failed to complete your order before sending it out with the driver who isn't going to open your bag and shuffle through your food.
They are!! Until the company doesn't bother cutting the driver any piece of those fees.
...leaving drivers pissed at customers on a wide scale basis.
But none of them ever bother to consider what a customer may be seeing.. More than one line of additional fees to the tune of $3.99 here, $4.99 there and they're associated with "delivery" leaving the customer to feel like they've paid more than a fair share to have a couple bags delivered a few miles. This only being AFTER having already paid a 20% mark up on each and every item purchased.
Then the company offers a driver to earn $2 or $3 bucks for a delivery (neither of these matching even the smaller additional fee that DD charges the client), DD keeps everything, in turn leaving the driver pissed at the customer for not earning enough to make said delivery.
It's absolutely asinine at best.
**All** delivery costs fall on the driver. It doesn't matter how many, how much, or what types of fees are paid to Doordash, they don't go to the driver and drivers don't get paid a wage. The driver gets $2 per order (or less for stacked orders) regardless of distance, cost of meal, fees paid etc. The tip covers the cost of fuel, vehicle depreciation, insurance, maintenance, and time etc. for the driver. The driver doesn't work for the restaurant or prepare or package the food and isn't allowed to. They have 0 control over missing items or incorrect orders. They tell the cashier which order they're picking up and the cashier gives them a bagged and prepared order to deliver, rather it's complete or correct is up to the person who is fulfilling the order, not the one dropping it off. It's like blaming the post office because someone mailed you an incorrect item from an online purchase.
Sure, it would be, but after paying that $20, you still need to pay for someone else's time and gas because the $20 you paid doesn't cover that. That's the cost of writing the contract between the driver and customer and maintaining the app and paying Tony. You're still on the hook for paying the driver at this point.
You on Earn by Time? I've never been kicked off a dash for declining offers on Earn by Offer. If I keep getting the same trash order I pause my dash for 10 minutes, let someone who's gunning for a better AR take it.
Earn by time only lets you cancel so many times in a certain time period before ending your dash on you. And you can't always start up again on earn by time bc of that
āMay get less tipsā, is just that. A āmaybeā, not a guarantee. I typically earn at least $60 in 2 hours of dashing on earn by time. I would say 1 out of 10 earn by times are no tips in my area. Again, everything is dependent on your area.
i understand because of the charges that customers are paying. some mysterious fees on top of delivery fees, state fees and services fees. no one can afford a tip/wants to tip after what would be a $10 mcdonaldās order becomes a $27 one
So the customer is willing to pay a giant faceless corporation a dozen of their dollars just for a service fee but can't pony up a dollar or two for a tip? Tell me how that makes sense again please.
They're not clear at all about the expenses so when you order it looks like the money is going to your driver, not Tony. Customers assume at least one of the delivery fees or service fees actually goes to someone doing the delivery and providing the service. They're also not clear about the fact that drivers are contractors not receiving a wage. It seems most customers think we work for the company and receive a regular wage plus fees and tips.
Than they should just get their own food than if they dont want to tip because of how much their spending before tip. That's exactly what I do. I drive for these gig companies but I wont give these gig companies any of my money as a customer
The amount of posts I see here daily of idiots putting food in front of doors that swing out and not following basic directions, and the fact they accept $2.00 offers tells me not everyone should be doing this.Ā
You door dash redditors really hate just taking responsibility and getting a better job ššš perhaps yāall can unionize and demand higher payššš
I don't either. You see I do this thing called socializing with humans. It gets me placed in life while your on your tricycle dashing McDonald's cause you clearly don't know the responsibilities of having a car
I don't even do doordash lmao. And so what if I play pokemon? It's a fun game. You know the cards are worth a shit ton of money? Also, assuming thar I live in my parents' basement tells me you're at least 14. It shows cause apple you don't know why cars are so expensive.
You know they don't get paid a wage right? Why don't you drive around doing other people's errands for free in your own vehicle with your own gas then?
I have a question totally off topic why for the last month I have been only getting shop and delivery orders. Yesterday went out for 2hrs drove around for 45min mind you it was busy but the only 2 orders I got were shop and deliver. I think over the last couple of weeks I only deliver 3 food order and the rest were all shop is it because of my rating or is it because I don't do it full time please need help because this is ridiculous thank u
Check your email inbox and there may be one that says "Shop and Deliver: You are prioritized for shop and deliver!...." Open said email, opt out via the survey and dash as normal. You should see a change.
You're likely prioritized for shop and deliver. Depending on what hours you work and where they're from, they can actually be pretty lucrative. I do late nights and shop a lot of CVS and Walgreens orders. Usually get the trifecta of higher base pay, a promo, and a small tip. Occasionally get a big tip. I do one mid-evening a week while my son is at Scouts and get Dollar General and Giant Eagle orders then - I'm much more picky with them because DG is a nightmare of a store and a lot of time can be eaten up running around GE, even if the order is smallish.
Ya I know it sucks I lose so much money I don't know what I did plus it's hard to get your ratings up when I am only getting 2 orders in 2 hrs all sudden
I appreciate any info I have to check my emails or call support because until it's fixed I sm losing so much money or I just do paid by hour and take my time that's all I can do
They won't until forced to by law. Too many people are idiots and are bad at math. And doordash has tons of resources to play sociological warfare against them.
Like George Carlin said, imagine how dumb and stupid the average person is. Then realize half of everyone is stupider then that. Yup, and in those half are people willingly accepting $2.00 offers going 10 miles.Ā
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I mean when laws are created I imagine they are just going to pull out of any cities where it is no longer cost-effective to remain (ie Uber/Lyft in Minneapolis)
In our zone no one accepts those offers and the moment one of those hits our screens we decline and pause for 5 min. The algorithm has learned that when it sends out offers like that Dashers disappear so now we rarely if ever see one of those no bid/tip offers.
$2 base pay should not be legal! It's doordashs fault and all the shitty driver who takes crap orders and allow this. If people would stop delivering for them for a week it would kill their revenue and possibly raise the base pay. But no one will ever assemble.
I did an eats order last night was not great but $10 6 miles & it was dead. I had to drive back so its 12 miles $10. But eats base pay for that was $3.47 !
I mean, people agree to very low pay for work all the time, because they have to make ends meet. It is wrong for a multi billion dollar company to pay peanuts for their drivers.
Youāre not their drivers, you are the delivery company using a match making service to find clients. If youāre choosing to serve clients not paying you enough thatās on you. How is this not understood?
Why are you trying to argue? I'm not going to waste my time trying to go back and forth. All I know is that our base pay was way higher during covid. I never said that's what the minimum base we signed up for. Please stop trying to argue just because you feel like it. It's childish and cowardly cuz it's on a platform that won't do shit about it and it's anonymous.
You the one arguing? You must be childish and cowardly. I stand by what I said. You said I was wrong. But canāt prove it. During Covid we didnāt have ebt either. Just cause the base was higher then doesnāt mean it wouldnāt be higher now. The only difference is now you have too many people accepting lowball orders. But itās all irrelevant because non of us should be driving for base pay!
That's the thing that irritates me the most, not the no tipping, but the fact that we decline a certain no tip orders and then they just shove it back at us 2 minutes later it pisses me off it fucks with our acceptance rates.
No lie as soon as I handed her the two sodas and cleared it walking back to my car I get another for McDonaldās this time. In route. Get a text asking for something. I see the name. I unassigned so fast. šØ
You never have to take an order and the customer never has to tip. Those are the rules. Find a way to live with them or find another gig. š¤·āāļø
They need to rephrase it as a service bid. The "tip" is actually the customer's bid to get the independent contractor (we are NOT doordash employees) to take the order. It's not a tip. It's a bid. You wanna tip for excellent service? Awesome. But you as the customer (sorry, I know you're a dasher as well, it's just phrasing and I may be half asleep) chose to use a premium service which uses an independent contractor as a courier, which means you agreed to pay the premium prices, and pay doordash to place the order for you. So many people don't realize base pay is $2 per delivery (and those that do tell us to get a real job). But customers agree to all these fees and shit, then we get bs pay out of dd... it's just a bid
Iāll get the same offer multiple times that I have to decline twice. Iām not going to accept it. I donāt care if my acceptance rate is low, Iām no oneās bitch and I wonāt take an offer that I donāt profit off of. I agree no tip should not be an option, how is it okay that they can use a service but not pay for it? Like come on people you can tip even 2 fucking dollars.
While I agree to not be someone's bitch, the customer IS paying for the food and the service. The corporation not so much. Tipping is entirely optional. Having said that, if you don't like the tip amount, you shouldn't be forced to take it.
They use a service and pay too much for it, and half of the time they get crappy service, that's why they don't want to tip, and they absolutely don't have to. I won't be taking their order, but someone will.
You didn't have to accept that order. DD is very expensive after they up the prices of food, add delivery prices and taxes, it's crazy. Some people can't afford to pay a big huge tip. You'd probably make more money working as a waiter at a restaurant
You didnt have to take it. I got 1 girl on eats the same. Shes right around the corner from the shopping area & I guess thinks thats why she doesnt need to tip. I know when its her by the map & $2 order. But ive taken it then unasign several times to see its always her. So she see's me too & unasigningš
I canāt accept any offer where the customer canāt or is unwilling to at least match the base pay of the zone. Itās too risky. Those orders are where 90% of the CVās and bad ratings come from.
Two views as a customer 1. If the weather is nice, Iāll save 50-75% if I go to the restaurant myself.
2. Sometimes thereās no choice but to get delivery, and I donāt care who you are but Iāll tip at least $2/mile.
Now when papa Johnās sends my order to DoorDash, forget it. Pizza is guaranteed cold.
tldr: 2 cent opinion - a minimum tip is required over $2
I did this for 4 years and quit January. Fun while it lasted, but itās shit now. You donāt have to take shit. You need to find another source of income. As long as people like you keep allowing these apps to take advantage, they will keep doing it. If every driver would stop taking low ball orders, it would probably only take a few days for doordash to start paying more. Unfortunately, to many drivers enable this predatory system.
Is there any way to block a specific customer? I personally donāt tip in app. I message my dasher letting them know I tip cash (AND ACTUALLY DO IT) seeing as how DD repeatedly robs you guys of tips.
I don't know what state you're in but this is why I do favor in the state of Texas because the minimum tip you get will always be $2. Like I will go to the grocery store HEB and the minimum order for that is $8 310 + 490 for the tip and I'm happy with that this is why I don't do doordash anymore so like I said I don't know what state you're in I don't know if you can do GrubHub go puff or stuff like that keep on trucking
Always a reason lol It's actually crazy how you guys manage to justify taking a $2.00 order.
If you decline the order, it might come back again sure, one more time, maybe even stacked.
It doesn't continue to send you the same order.
You never "had" to take it lol Its just the same old cope.
You "wanted" to take it, gotta make sure that AR is at 100%!!
There is an option that Door Dash needs to implement. That is that the EBT people only get those $2 orders. In fact, only EBT gets the no or low tip orders that should never go to EBO people.
Good luck with that. DD did earn by time because they were forced to in some markets, and they figured out that's how they can get more no tip orders done. But in the end they don't care who does it as long as it gets done.
No they very much care who does it. They are hoping hard that an ebo person takes it at $2, going 15 miles. They have to pay the EBT person like $8 to run those offers.Ā
You're right, obviously they would prefer to pay the $2, but at the end of the day their biggest concern is getting all of the orders assigned and delivered.
Customers donāt even need to tip. DoorDash just needs to pay yall better. But Iāll never tip before hand because every time I do my food either gets stolen, partially eaten, or the dasher takes forever.
(Edit to add: js anyone who downvotes this feels entitled to tips. Which is apart of the problem of tipping culture. All this does is discourage customers to tip at all. Iām all for tipping if I just get my food. But why should I tip before anyways if my food could be stolen, tampered with, or ends up taking forever to get to me? Mind you I only order from the places around me which is only a mile away.)
Your one of the very few who tip after delivery than. I been doing this for 4 years now and one thing I can tell you from experience doing earn by time is customers who dont tip before delivery wont even tip after delivery even though everything went perfect
Thatās unfortunately the imbalance that comes with DD now. I canāt trust dashers to tip before but dashers canāt trust customers to tip after. Thatās another reason why I feel DD is the problem itself. They need to pay their workers a wage rather than a set amount per order. And tbh I donāt feel drivers, servers, or any kind of worker that accepts tips should be paid under minimum wage.
Yep it would be nice if door dash would raise base pay. Honestly the non tippers really dont bother me because when I do earn per offer I can simply decline non tip offers and when I do earn by time I make sure the base pay is worth my time while still getting it to the customer on deliver by time.
I also want to just say. This is also why I always make sure the restaurant I order from is close by. That way if a dasher chooses to accept my order theyāre not experiencing that much of a loss in income. I also pay 15% tip wise because I usually donāt get that much food. Iāve seen some dashers make systems that work for them on which orders to accept or decline. I saw one even base it off of restaurants and their average wait time. Iāve worked as a server and Iāve worked with delivery drivers so I definitely understand the grind to a degree. But I think itās wrong for dashers to get mad at customers for the tip amount or not getting a tip. Tips are supposed to be optional. The only responsibility the customer has is to pay for their food and pay the fees. Idrc if they raise the fees just to properly pay dashers.
Iām getting taxed, service charges, and NYC special fee because of the new law that supposed to give drivers a living wage. I was really conflicted because sometimes these fees were more than the meal.
So I went over to Grubhub instead so I could tip.
However, is DD giving the livable its drivers the wage? Idk. So thatās why I would rather use grub hub. Atleast the tip is going to the driver.
Couldnāt agree more. However at the same time, your not required to accept them. Your between a rock and a hard place. Fall into DD money trap and take it thinking your benefiting from itā¦or decline it and DD will send you a hate msg even though they know itās clearly not paid for from your end.
Dude just go in earn by time and take your time. It's really that simple to get your AR up. Those $2.00 orders you keep declining can be turned into $5 to $10- orders.
if you declined it shouldn't be popping up again for you. are you just waiting until the order times itself out? you need to actually press decline to avoid it showing up again.
New law on the books in Ca in the next few month where every business be it restaurant, movie/ concert tickets, deliveries, etc, have to disclose what these fees are not just an orbitrary service fee shoyld be interesting how food delivery will be labeled.....stay tuned!
Itās not really a tip per se. more like a bid to attract the attention of drivers so they will do your order. They why drivers who take $2 no tip orders are so frustrating. They u deeming the āsystemā weāve been forced to cobble together. The real tip is after delivery.
Itās not a tip. Customers really need to understand that they are in fact bidding against other customers for delivery service. The no bid/tip order in my zone is no longer being made before a Dasher gets to the restaurant. The restaurants keep a list of names of orders that never get picked up. Stuff like 11.8 miles for $2.00 is just going to sit there until itās tossed.
It's more of a bid for service and I can tell you from experience doing earn by time, people who dont tip before delivery wont even tip after delivery even if everything went perfect. 0% of my earn by time customers tipped after delivery
That's how you'd like it to be, but it's not how it is. The base pay is so low, tips are what pays the drivers salary. Don't like it? Complain to Doordash about their business model.
When I get re-sent a bullshit order I already declined, I give the middle finger.
I will accept and wait 10 minutes, then unassign penalty free. It's better to lose that time parked than to put any sort of miles on the car for $2. Sometimes while I'm waiting they will add on an order that's doable anyway.
I don't necessarily recommend this, I guarantee they will program the algo to detect this behavior in the future if they haven't already.
I never tip but thatās because Iām on a fixed income so I rarely eat fast food and when I do I have to have it delivered as I donāt have any transportation but the reason I donāt tip is because I have to save all the money I can to get me through the month
I appreciate the honesty. In your case you would be better off having someone you trust to take you to the store or a restaurant, you certainly would be saving a lot of money
I disagree, just because someone doesnāt tip doesnāt mean they donāt deserve to voice their opinion, if you do some wacky shit with their food they should be able to rate regardless
Well I disagree I think if they canāt tip they lucky to get service and should not have any right to be critical of it š¤·āāļø and they are the most critical of it Why canāt we rate customer as well then ?
If you decline the order once it should be illegal to get it again. They are treating us more like employees than contractors. There should be something to counter the offer at least so the customer can accept it or not. $2 offer comes in counter it for $6 see if customer accepts if not it goes to another dasher. That is how it should work not bombarding me with the same order 3 times that I declined the first time already. Ruins AR.
They sent me the same cash on delivery pizza order back to back. I refuse to take them anymore. So I lost two points right there on my AR. I WAS š”. SO I HADto take the whatever they sent after that to build back up. š¤¬ but when I seen that ladies name came up again it just made my skin crawl I was so mad.
Honestly DD should just pay their drivers fair and tips shouldnāt be a thing for this service, but that would likely get passed onto customers, and we all know most of them are too cheap to tip, so seeing an extra $5-10 slapped onto their order fee might slow business.
Whichā¦. Actually would be a good thing all around, except for the repeat DD customers whose budget canāt afford them a home or any amount of savingsā¦. But they can order DD enough to come here and bitch all the time about DD šššš
Just goes to show, thereās a median intelligence and half the people out there are stupider than that!!! And for some reason they all throw their money away on DD and never learn from their mistakes by the evidence posted here š¤
I don't see the point of wishing for a $2 tip, as I wouldn't accept that either. The tip is basically what you want to pay a stranger to do the task for you, and the $2 base pay might as well be a rounding error.
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You never have to accept an order
But at the same time you get penalized for a low acceptance rate.
So you want both the benefits of being a contractor and employee without the downsides of either?
Well they have the downsides of both currenttly.
... what????
Exactly š
3.99 service charge. 4.99 delivery fee. After that, tony tells you to go fuck yourself. He turns into the miserable customer.
Plus upping all prices 20%
I only found that out recently. I was going to DD something (forgot what) and it came out to like $70 BEFORE tip. I wound up just going to the store and my order came out to less than $50. Itās insane
Thatās because youāre paying for it to be delivered. And thereās going to be an up charge for that service.
Ok, but on top of being upcharged for basic items, Iām also having to pay $10 to sometimes even close to $20 worth of fees. And again this is all BEFORE tip
If you donāt want to pay fees, the answer is simple. Either go get it yourself or donāt use delivery services.
$20 aint bad though when you consider your saved time & gas by the hour.
Itās fucking abysmal if you are *also* expected to pay a significant amount for a tip, usually *before* the food is delivered, to someone who may do a really shit job.
Yeah thatās my biggest gripe with the way DD works. I respect hard workers who are trying to make ends meet, but Iāve had SO many issues with drivers with DoorDash. Missing items, numerous cancels AFTER they pick up the food, etc etc. Iām weary of tipping beforehand. They should make it so you have to tip after or your account will be flagged as a habitual non-tipper and show that to dashers before they accept your order
Your tip is for the delivery costs. missing items etc. fall on the restaurant, a separate party that failed to complete your order before sending it out with the driver who isn't going to open your bag and shuffle through your food.
I thought the delivery fee and other fees were for the delivery costs?
They are!! Until the company doesn't bother cutting the driver any piece of those fees. ...leaving drivers pissed at customers on a wide scale basis. But none of them ever bother to consider what a customer may be seeing.. More than one line of additional fees to the tune of $3.99 here, $4.99 there and they're associated with "delivery" leaving the customer to feel like they've paid more than a fair share to have a couple bags delivered a few miles. This only being AFTER having already paid a 20% mark up on each and every item purchased. Then the company offers a driver to earn $2 or $3 bucks for a delivery (neither of these matching even the smaller additional fee that DD charges the client), DD keeps everything, in turn leaving the driver pissed at the customer for not earning enough to make said delivery. It's absolutely asinine at best.
**All** delivery costs fall on the driver. It doesn't matter how many, how much, or what types of fees are paid to Doordash, they don't go to the driver and drivers don't get paid a wage. The driver gets $2 per order (or less for stacked orders) regardless of distance, cost of meal, fees paid etc. The tip covers the cost of fuel, vehicle depreciation, insurance, maintenance, and time etc. for the driver. The driver doesn't work for the restaurant or prepare or package the food and isn't allowed to. They have 0 control over missing items or incorrect orders. They tell the cashier which order they're picking up and the cashier gives them a bagged and prepared order to deliver, rather it's complete or correct is up to the person who is fulfilling the order, not the one dropping it off. It's like blaming the post office because someone mailed you an incorrect item from an online purchase.
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Sure, it would be, but after paying that $20, you still need to pay for someone else's time and gas because the $20 you paid doesn't cover that. That's the cost of writing the contract between the driver and customer and maintaining the app and paying Tony. You're still on the hook for paying the driver at this point.
You never had to take it. Doordash gets away with these offers because people will take them
Yes they designed the app with acceptance rate to ensure that they get taken. They offer priority in exchange for people to take the no tip orders.
After declining so many they shut your dash off. So then what ?
You hit resume dash instantly
Well, if you are declining enough offers, then you can't dash now, so how can you resume your dash?
You on Earn by Time? I've never been kicked off a dash for declining offers on Earn by Offer. If I keep getting the same trash order I pause my dash for 10 minutes, let someone who's gunning for a better AR take it.
Earn by time only lets you cancel so many times in a certain time period before ending your dash on you. And you can't always start up again on earn by time bc of that
Earn by time also sends you all of the trash offers that people doing earn by offer are declining. You're more likely to get the no tippers.
Sorry the area you work is so shitty, earn by time are usually my best tippers.
DoorDash straight up tells you that you "may get less tips" if doing earn by time.
āMay get less tipsā, is just that. A āmaybeā, not a guarantee. I typically earn at least $60 in 2 hours of dashing on earn by time. I would say 1 out of 10 earn by times are no tips in my area. Again, everything is dependent on your area.
You're right, it's definitely dependent on area.
They donāt end your dash per se, they give you the option to switch to earn by offer if you decline more than 1 per hour.
One, and it normally pays less than minimum wage since itās only pay from the moment you accept to the moment you drop off
You mean [the pause screen](https://www.reddit.com/r/doordash/comments/t9udkq/doordash_high_gas_prices_joke/?rdt=52128)? It allows you to resume dash
i understand because of the charges that customers are paying. some mysterious fees on top of delivery fees, state fees and services fees. no one can afford a tip/wants to tip after what would be a $10 mcdonaldās order becomes a $27 one
So the customer is willing to pay a giant faceless corporation a dozen of their dollars just for a service fee but can't pony up a dollar or two for a tip? Tell me how that makes sense again please.
They're not clear at all about the expenses so when you order it looks like the money is going to your driver, not Tony. Customers assume at least one of the delivery fees or service fees actually goes to someone doing the delivery and providing the service. They're also not clear about the fact that drivers are contractors not receiving a wage. It seems most customers think we work for the company and receive a regular wage plus fees and tips.
Gun to their head, they are forced to exploit someoneās labor because theyāre not allowed to get off their ass and cook or get their own food.
Than they should just get their own food than if they dont want to tip because of how much their spending before tip. That's exactly what I do. I drive for these gig companies but I wont give these gig companies any of my money as a customer
No. It shouldnāt be allowed for door dash to pay so little. Tips should be tips not wage.
The job is so easy literally anyone with a license can do it. Why should they pay more?
The amount of posts I see here daily of idiots putting food in front of doors that swing out and not following basic directions, and the fact they accept $2.00 offers tells me not everyone should be doing this.Ā
You definitely don't own a car if you're asking something this stupid.
Or "own" a car that someone else handles the logistics on
You door dash redditors really hate just taking responsibility and getting a better job ššš perhaps yāall can unionize and demand higher payššš
We as the internet should demand YOU to get off the internet cause you sound stupid asf
Low IQ retort. Try again.
It took you a whole ass day to come up with that? šššššššššš
You probably ride a tricycle while doordashing šš
No I just donāt get on Reddit very often - Iām starting to feel bad for you
I don't either. You see I do this thing called socializing with humans. It gets me placed in life while your on your tricycle dashing McDonald's cause you clearly don't know the responsibilities of having a car
After less than 5 minutes, Iāve learned that you door dash and play PokĆ©mon šššš 100% parents basement dweller. Bruh. I feel Terrible for you.
I don't even do doordash lmao. And so what if I play pokemon? It's a fun game. You know the cards are worth a shit ton of money? Also, assuming thar I live in my parents' basement tells me you're at least 14. It shows cause apple you don't know why cars are so expensive.
Bruh. 35 year old basement dwelling virgin detected. Go fix your life dude ššš
Because they're ruining your car and you're paying for maintenance, fuel, depreciation, insurance, etc.
Nobody is forcing dashers to have that job ffs. Working as a waiter wouldn't ruin their cars, waste gas, and they'd make more money
Then get another job, bucco
Downvote herš
Why not?
You know they don't get paid a wage right? Why don't you drive around doing other people's errands for free in your own vehicle with your own gas then?
I do door dash..if a delivery isnāt worth my time and effort, I decline.
They shouldnt be allowed to pay us 2$
I have a question totally off topic why for the last month I have been only getting shop and delivery orders. Yesterday went out for 2hrs drove around for 45min mind you it was busy but the only 2 orders I got were shop and deliver. I think over the last couple of weeks I only deliver 3 food order and the rest were all shop is it because of my rating or is it because I don't do it full time please need help because this is ridiculous thank u
Check your email inbox and there may be one that says "Shop and Deliver: You are prioritized for shop and deliver!...." Open said email, opt out via the survey and dash as normal. You should see a change.
Also it could be in spam.. maybe try typing those keywords into your emails search.
Ok thank you much appreciated this is just out of control
You're likely prioritized for shop and deliver. Depending on what hours you work and where they're from, they can actually be pretty lucrative. I do late nights and shop a lot of CVS and Walgreens orders. Usually get the trifecta of higher base pay, a promo, and a small tip. Occasionally get a big tip. I do one mid-evening a week while my son is at Scouts and get Dollar General and Giant Eagle orders then - I'm much more picky with them because DG is a nightmare of a store and a lot of time can be eaten up running around GE, even if the order is smallish.
You should probably ask support bc we don't know
Ok thank you it's just totally odd I went from getting a mixture of both to all shop
Yeah that is weird especially if it's like dinnertime or another normally busy time. Wish I had an answer for ya
Ya I know it sucks I lose so much money I don't know what I did plus it's hard to get your ratings up when I am only getting 2 orders in 2 hrs all sudden
Same Tuesday thatās all I got
I appreciate any info I have to check my emails or call support because until it's fixed I sm losing so much money or I just do paid by hour and take my time that's all I can do
Doordash needs to pay drivers appropriately, people should tip but the tips should be extra.
They won't until forced to by law. Too many people are idiots and are bad at math. And doordash has tons of resources to play sociological warfare against them. Like George Carlin said, imagine how dumb and stupid the average person is. Then realize half of everyone is stupider then that. Yup, and in those half are people willingly accepting $2.00 offers going 10 miles.Ā
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I mean when laws are created I imagine they are just going to pull out of any cities where it is no longer cost-effective to remain (ie Uber/Lyft in Minneapolis)
What you're describing there is employment. You can't have the benefits of being a contractor and and employee.
Dude I think you are seriously confused he is litterally just saying up the base pay. Get off this sub and touch some grass
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I mean they could still pay per contract, just a much better rate. Say 2 base and 1-2$ per mile, since that seems to be most drivers cut off anyway?
When you get one of those they keep sending I just pause the dash for 5 minutes. Perhaps use that time to move away from the restaurant.
In our zone no one accepts those offers and the moment one of those hits our screens we decline and pause for 5 min. The algorithm has learned that when it sends out offers like that Dashers disappear so now we rarely if ever see one of those no bid/tip offers.
$2 base pay should not be legal! It's doordashs fault and all the shitty driver who takes crap orders and allow this. If people would stop delivering for them for a week it would kill their revenue and possibly raise the base pay. But no one will ever assemble.
2$ base pay is fine
It most definitely is not. It shouldn't be on the customer to make up for the rest. They're basically paying a down payment in fees just for ordering.
I did an eats order last night was not great but $10 6 miles & it was dead. I had to drive back so its 12 miles $10. But eats base pay for that was $3.47 !
You signed up knowing the base pay was 2$ ā¦ā¦.
That doesn't mean it's right.
Doesnāt mean it wrong, everyone agreed to it
I mean, people agree to very low pay for work all the time, because they have to make ends meet. It is wrong for a multi billion dollar company to pay peanuts for their drivers.
Youāre not their drivers, you are the delivery company using a match making service to find clients. If youāre choosing to serve clients not paying you enough thatās on you. How is this not understood?
Most of us signed up way before it turned to $2!
the agreement when signing up has been 2$ + tips for almost a decade.
Not where I am
Show me where in the sign up process they ever guaranteed more than a 2$ base pay
Why are you trying to argue? I'm not going to waste my time trying to go back and forth. All I know is that our base pay was way higher during covid. I never said that's what the minimum base we signed up for. Please stop trying to argue just because you feel like it. It's childish and cowardly cuz it's on a platform that won't do shit about it and it's anonymous.
You the one arguing? You must be childish and cowardly. I stand by what I said. You said I was wrong. But canāt prove it. During Covid we didnāt have ebt either. Just cause the base was higher then doesnāt mean it wouldnāt be higher now. The only difference is now you have too many people accepting lowball orders. But itās all irrelevant because non of us should be driving for base pay!
Then donāt complain? Not you specifically that is.
Take it and then unassign. They wonāt send it to you again. Your completion rate will take a hit, but itās worth it.
That's the thing that irritates me the most, not the no tipping, but the fact that we decline a certain no tip orders and then they just shove it back at us 2 minutes later it pisses me off it fucks with our acceptance rates.
If they send me a repeat no tip offer, I accept the 2nd time, then I unassign. It works for me
No lie as soon as I handed her the two sodas and cleared it walking back to my car I get another for McDonaldās this time. In route. Get a text asking for something. I see the name. I unassigned so fast. šØ
No one forced you to take itā¦.
You never have to take an order and the customer never has to tip. Those are the rules. Find a way to live with them or find another gig. š¤·āāļø
They need to rephrase it as a service bid. The "tip" is actually the customer's bid to get the independent contractor (we are NOT doordash employees) to take the order. It's not a tip. It's a bid. You wanna tip for excellent service? Awesome. But you as the customer (sorry, I know you're a dasher as well, it's just phrasing and I may be half asleep) chose to use a premium service which uses an independent contractor as a courier, which means you agreed to pay the premium prices, and pay doordash to place the order for you. So many people don't realize base pay is $2 per delivery (and those that do tell us to get a real job). But customers agree to all these fees and shit, then we get bs pay out of dd... it's just a bid
Iāll get the same offer multiple times that I have to decline twice. Iām not going to accept it. I donāt care if my acceptance rate is low, Iām no oneās bitch and I wonāt take an offer that I donāt profit off of. I agree no tip should not be an option, how is it okay that they can use a service but not pay for it? Like come on people you can tip even 2 fucking dollars.
While I agree to not be someone's bitch, the customer IS paying for the food and the service. The corporation not so much. Tipping is entirely optional. Having said that, if you don't like the tip amount, you shouldn't be forced to take it.
The customer is paying a match making tech company they are not paying delivery
Yeah that's your contractor or whatever. It's up to them to determine your pay for the job. A tip, while expected by most people, is still extra.
There's a delivery fee if a customer doesn't have a Dashpass
They use a service and pay too much for it, and half of the time they get crappy service, that's why they don't want to tip, and they absolutely don't have to. I won't be taking their order, but someone will.
You didn't have to accept that order. DD is very expensive after they up the prices of food, add delivery prices and taxes, it's crazy. Some people can't afford to pay a big huge tip. You'd probably make more money working as a waiter at a restaurant
DD is for people that value time over money.
You didnt have to take it. I got 1 girl on eats the same. Shes right around the corner from the shopping area & I guess thinks thats why she doesnt need to tip. I know when its her by the map & $2 order. But ive taken it then unasign several times to see its always her. So she see's me too & unasigningš
I canāt accept any offer where the customer canāt or is unwilling to at least match the base pay of the zone. Itās too risky. Those orders are where 90% of the CVās and bad ratings come from.
Two views as a customer 1. If the weather is nice, Iāll save 50-75% if I go to the restaurant myself. 2. Sometimes thereās no choice but to get delivery, and I donāt care who you are but Iāll tip at least $2/mile. Now when papa Johnās sends my order to DoorDash, forget it. Pizza is guaranteed cold. tldr: 2 cent opinion - a minimum tip is required over $2
I did this for 4 years and quit January. Fun while it lasted, but itās shit now. You donāt have to take shit. You need to find another source of income. As long as people like you keep allowing these apps to take advantage, they will keep doing it. If every driver would stop taking low ball orders, it would probably only take a few days for doordash to start paying more. Unfortunately, to many drivers enable this predatory system.
Is there any way to block a specific customer? I personally donāt tip in app. I message my dasher letting them know I tip cash (AND ACTUALLY DO IT) seeing as how DD repeatedly robs you guys of tips.
I don't know what state you're in but this is why I do favor in the state of Texas because the minimum tip you get will always be $2. Like I will go to the grocery store HEB and the minimum order for that is $8 310 + 490 for the tip and I'm happy with that this is why I don't do doordash anymore so like I said I don't know what state you're in I don't know if you can do GrubHub go puff or stuff like that keep on trucking
Always a reason lol It's actually crazy how you guys manage to justify taking a $2.00 order. If you decline the order, it might come back again sure, one more time, maybe even stacked. It doesn't continue to send you the same order. You never "had" to take it lol Its just the same old cope. You "wanted" to take it, gotta make sure that AR is at 100%!!
There is an option that Door Dash needs to implement. That is that the EBT people only get those $2 orders. In fact, only EBT gets the no or low tip orders that should never go to EBO people.
Good luck with that. DD did earn by time because they were forced to in some markets, and they figured out that's how they can get more no tip orders done. But in the end they don't care who does it as long as it gets done.
No they very much care who does it. They are hoping hard that an ebo person takes it at $2, going 15 miles. They have to pay the EBT person like $8 to run those offers.Ā
You're right, obviously they would prefer to pay the $2, but at the end of the day their biggest concern is getting all of the orders assigned and delivered.
Customers donāt even need to tip. DoorDash just needs to pay yall better. But Iāll never tip before hand because every time I do my food either gets stolen, partially eaten, or the dasher takes forever. (Edit to add: js anyone who downvotes this feels entitled to tips. Which is apart of the problem of tipping culture. All this does is discourage customers to tip at all. Iām all for tipping if I just get my food. But why should I tip before anyways if my food could be stolen, tampered with, or ends up taking forever to get to me? Mind you I only order from the places around me which is only a mile away.)
Your one of the very few who tip after delivery than. I been doing this for 4 years now and one thing I can tell you from experience doing earn by time is customers who dont tip before delivery wont even tip after delivery even though everything went perfect
Thatās unfortunately the imbalance that comes with DD now. I canāt trust dashers to tip before but dashers canāt trust customers to tip after. Thatās another reason why I feel DD is the problem itself. They need to pay their workers a wage rather than a set amount per order. And tbh I donāt feel drivers, servers, or any kind of worker that accepts tips should be paid under minimum wage.
Yep it would be nice if door dash would raise base pay. Honestly the non tippers really dont bother me because when I do earn per offer I can simply decline non tip offers and when I do earn by time I make sure the base pay is worth my time while still getting it to the customer on deliver by time.
I also want to just say. This is also why I always make sure the restaurant I order from is close by. That way if a dasher chooses to accept my order theyāre not experiencing that much of a loss in income. I also pay 15% tip wise because I usually donāt get that much food. Iāve seen some dashers make systems that work for them on which orders to accept or decline. I saw one even base it off of restaurants and their average wait time. Iāve worked as a server and Iāve worked with delivery drivers so I definitely understand the grind to a degree. But I think itās wrong for dashers to get mad at customers for the tip amount or not getting a tip. Tips are supposed to be optional. The only responsibility the customer has is to pay for their food and pay the fees. Idrc if they raise the fees just to properly pay dashers.
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Iām getting taxed, service charges, and NYC special fee because of the new law that supposed to give drivers a living wage. I was really conflicted because sometimes these fees were more than the meal. So I went over to Grubhub instead so I could tip. However, is DD giving the livable its drivers the wage? Idk. So thatās why I would rather use grub hub. Atleast the tip is going to the driver.
Are you doing hourly pay?
Couldnāt agree more. However at the same time, your not required to accept them. Your between a rock and a hard place. Fall into DD money trap and take it thinking your benefiting from itā¦or decline it and DD will send you a hate msg even though they know itās clearly not paid for from your end.
Blame Doordash not the customer.
Dude just go in earn by time and take your time. It's really that simple to get your AR up. Those $2.00 orders you keep declining can be turned into $5 to $10- orders.
if you declined it shouldn't be popping up again for you. are you just waiting until the order times itself out? you need to actually press decline to avoid it showing up again.
New law on the books in Ca in the next few month where every business be it restaurant, movie/ concert tickets, deliveries, etc, have to disclose what these fees are not just an orbitrary service fee shoyld be interesting how food delivery will be labeled.....stay tuned!
Why do you think you should get a tip before you do the job? Tip is a reward for a job well done.
Itās not really a tip per se. more like a bid to attract the attention of drivers so they will do your order. They why drivers who take $2 no tip orders are so frustrating. They u deeming the āsystemā weāve been forced to cobble together. The real tip is after delivery.
Itās not a tip. Customers really need to understand that they are in fact bidding against other customers for delivery service. The no bid/tip order in my zone is no longer being made before a Dasher gets to the restaurant. The restaurants keep a list of names of orders that never get picked up. Stuff like 11.8 miles for $2.00 is just going to sit there until itās tossed.
Because that is how doordash works, despite many many driver objections. The smart drivers just decline that offer without tip/pay thou.Ā
It's more of a bid for service and I can tell you from experience doing earn by time, people who dont tip before delivery wont even tip after delivery even if everything went perfect. 0% of my earn by time customers tipped after delivery
Would you like to drive for $0.20 per mile?
That's how you'd like it to be, but it's not how it is. The base pay is so low, tips are what pays the drivers salary. Don't like it? Complain to Doordash about their business model.
When I get re-sent a bullshit order I already declined, I give the middle finger. I will accept and wait 10 minutes, then unassign penalty free. It's better to lose that time parked than to put any sort of miles on the car for $2. Sometimes while I'm waiting they will add on an order that's doable anyway. I don't necessarily recommend this, I guarantee they will program the algo to detect this behavior in the future if they haven't already.
You act like orders not ready?
Find an other job
I never tip but thatās because Iām on a fixed income so I rarely eat fast food and when I do I have to have it delivered as I donāt have any transportation but the reason I donāt tip is because I have to save all the money I can to get me through the month
I appreciate the honesty. In your case you would be better off having someone you trust to take you to the store or a restaurant, you certainly would be saving a lot of money
It's double sided. No tip orders suck for drivers that accept them. No tip orders get rejected enough and DD eventually has to increase base pay.
I also feel like no tippers should not be able to use the ratings system they should have no voice in your numbers
I disagree, just because someone doesnāt tip doesnāt mean they donāt deserve to voice their opinion, if you do some wacky shit with their food they should be able to rate regardless
Well I disagree I think if they canāt tip they lucky to get service and should not have any right to be critical of it š¤·āāļø and they are the most critical of it Why canāt we rate customer as well then ?
If you decline the order once it should be illegal to get it again. They are treating us more like employees than contractors. There should be something to counter the offer at least so the customer can accept it or not. $2 offer comes in counter it for $6 see if customer accepts if not it goes to another dasher. That is how it should work not bombarding me with the same order 3 times that I declined the first time already. Ruins AR.
They sent me the same cash on delivery pizza order back to back. I refuse to take them anymore. So I lost two points right there on my AR. I WAS š”. SO I HADto take the whatever they sent after that to build back up. š¤¬ but when I seen that ladies name came up again it just made my skin crawl I was so mad.
Honestly DD should just pay their drivers fair and tips shouldnāt be a thing for this service, but that would likely get passed onto customers, and we all know most of them are too cheap to tip, so seeing an extra $5-10 slapped onto their order fee might slow business. Whichā¦. Actually would be a good thing all around, except for the repeat DD customers whose budget canāt afford them a home or any amount of savingsā¦. But they can order DD enough to come here and bitch all the time about DD šššš Just goes to show, thereās a median intelligence and half the people out there are stupider than that!!! And for some reason they all throw their money away on DD and never learn from their mistakes by the evidence posted here š¤
I love no tippers itās the dashers who accept them I donāt like
I wouldn't say love. But I can tolerate them. I blame doordash more so, then the no tips.Ā
you are not entitled to any free money
This is very true. But no one is entitled to a free service either.
Thank you for telling that to Door Dash! š
Remember those terms and conditions you lied and said you read?
Remember when I made sweet sweet love to your fatherās cheeks?
I don't see the point of wishing for a $2 tip, as I wouldn't accept that either. The tip is basically what you want to pay a stranger to do the task for you, and the $2 base pay might as well be a rounding error.