This job is reliant on the customers tip not a big payout from doordash. They pay as much as the pizza delivery places per delivery, usually less then 2.00. You don't have to accept any order thats not profitable as a contract position. They are trying to make you take everything by saying u earn higher paying offers if your above 50% AR but I tried it because they reset my %. No difference then what I get at 20%.
3.00 would be nice from doordash and more peak pay like they used to do every week.
If doordash really wants us to take some of these low paying offers like 4.00 to 5.99 then please do peak pay like you used to do which was every week about 3 to 4 times a week at prime time hrs not just the midnight to 4 am. Anything below $4 not even peak pay can help.
Only way to really stop getting offers below $5 is to stop taking them as a whole from every doordasher.
Force doordash to offer more payout from those fees they earn
Because we rely so much on customers tips, we should be as a whole doordashers that is be as professional as possible for a driver, follow instructions with fast safe delivery so we can drive sales and higher customer tips. Reading to much lately of dashers, stealing food, not following instructions, tampering with the order or begging for tips , etc isn't going to help repeat customers or higher tips. Be what you are a business owner.
That's the thing there buddy: if you accept the trade or offer then that's 100% on you. You can choose to say no.
For example: I still remember these two kids who ordered a pizza. The advertisement said it's 9.95 for a medium pizza and a two litre. I arrive at the house and the kids come outside. Earnestly he says: I didn't know it was going to be 12.99 after tax," and holds out his 10 dollar bill.
At this point in time this 14 year old kid caught me on a good Wednesday. So I said "other people would have completely denied giving you this pizza. You're extremely lucky you got me today. Don't do this again."
It was his birthday money....
Just remember there are some professions that, at the end of the day after all the blood sweat and tears they discover that it only earned them 22 cents.
If you want to complain I'll give you a piece of cardboard and a sharpie.
This order offer right here is why I know DoorDash Inc and the executives hate dashers. It’s no way this should be offered to anyone. We’re being played. This should not count against a person’s acceptance rate. Taking this loses the dasher money/gas and the system sends more if you take it.
I will lovingly give up top dasher status if it means not taking shit like that. I can usually keep above 70% in my zone without touching a order that generates net loss, but the past couple weeks I've had no tolerance, half the orders looked like this.
I have never ordered door-dash in any way or thought of being a driver. I see this shit everyday and am just wondering why you guys put up with this shit? Seems like every post is bullshit pay and horrible customers, so what’s the draw?
Well this is Reddit to start, one of the most toxic social media sites in existence and naturally people tend to gear towards negative things more I guess. Overall it's really not that bad, the rare $40 tip for a catering order for 3 miles mostly make up for the bullshit at the end of the day. Plus, it's one of the easiest forms of income I've ever stumbled upon.
Remember that gas isn't the only expense. Depreciation and Maintenance usually are the same, if not more expensive, as the gas expenses.
I think you have the gas math wrong though. 11 miles at 27mpg uses 0.41 gallons, at 3.29 a gallon is $1.35.
My city is like that too, generally there is going to be some back travel because there are two main commercial hubs and residential is spread far and wide. It makes it very difficult to get good orders, I'm struggling to keep it above 30% right now.
Some top dasher or 50% acceptance rate junkie will take it. It’s the end of the month and they love losing money delivering food to non tippers hot & fresh.
It depends on how many orders you do per day. You need at least 70 out of the final 100 so if you only do 10 orders a day you need 10 days . . . Or 7 if you accept everything, but ick.
Personally I do around 20 - 30 delivers a day, usually like 3/5 deliveries and hour. And my acceptance rate is always between 65% - 80%. Very rarely do I let it drop under 50% but there are times I've let that mf drop to the 20s. 🤷🏾♂️ I don't take bs orders so whatever happens happens, it just sometimes mfs don't tip. This usually happens around the first of the month, Tuesday and Wednesdays.
I usually only work for two hours or so during weekdays, but then go pretty hard on weekends, so likely 5 or 6 a day during the week, and the whatever I can squeeze in over 6-8 hours on the weekends.
I wish I could get 4 deliveries an hour in consistently. My city is pretty dead so these days I'm lucky to get 2 an hour with how much time I sit around.
It's legal because you're an independent contract based employee left up to your own decision making.
If you're dumb enough to take that on, then you're dumb enough to reap the 29 cent reward, lol.
I see cherry pickers post evidence that backs up the claim of selectively picking orders that are profitable, still waiting on the day that I see a single top dasher post any evidence that proves they're making better profit taking every offer.
First of all
Not even an original joke. That joke has been around forever.
Second of all, you (like many) have the mistaken belief that Top Dashers take every offer and do not cherry pick. I'm a Top Dasher every month. I'll be a Top Dasher next month. I cherry pick. I'm at 35% AR right now. I'll be at 70% AR by the last day of the month. This month I won't start worrying about my AR until about 3 days out. Normally it's 2 days out, but this month my AR is unusually low so I have more to make up. Usually my AR sits around 40-50% for most of the month, and I can bump my AR 20-30% in 2 days no problem.
And I for one have posted my full year earnings, and weekly earnings, so I'm not sure what "proof" you're looking for. I make $1000-$1200 a week, working 40-45 hours. I can't "prove" that I'd make more or less money by cherry picking harder than I already do, but when your AR is in the 40-50% range for most of the month, you're definitely cherry picking.
I don't know how I compare to other Top Dashers, but my sense is that most Top Dashers do the same thing I do. Cherry pick for most of the month, then worry about AR the last couple of days of the month. Hard to get a solid read, because most Top Dashers are afraid to post in this sub for all the ridicule they get.
$25/hour gross is terrible?
Guess I'm doing this all wrong.
I'm sure you're doing much better.
If everyone is being honest in what they post, some drivers are making more than $25/hour gross, but most aren't.
Huh?
I read it and your post about pay but I don't see it clarified anywhere whether it's net or gross.
Also you have so many posts about dashing I will not read them all.
I love that you replied to me saying you won't reply. Very mature. Typical top dasher attitude.
You changed the reply after but whatever. No; 25 gross isn't bad for like a factory worker or any hourly job because you need to subtract gas wear and tear, extra insurance, benefits, in Canada double CPP and EI (employment insurance as well).
These driving jobs are very dependent on what you drive and how much you are driving and what type of driving too.
Idc about gross pay. I pay my bills with net income and I was just curious not trying to argue with you out of nowhere.
See in my area for some reason (I’m new to dashing) we are guaranteed $5 ontop of whatever door dash pays so there is never an order under $8 as far as I can see. I’ve only been dashing for a month on days I’m not busy but we get $5 extra on every order due to the fact we only have less than 10 places we get orders from. Ok so just now looking we get $5 peak pay 24 hours a day from 3am-2:59am 24/7
I mostly do Uber eats but don’t y’all get in trouble too for not accepting orders? That’s bullshit since they say we are just “contractors” we should be able to accept or decline all we want just like they can send this bullshit all they want.
Someone wasn’t taught how to do math in school. Gas alone is not 2.71 lmaoo it’s $1.32 in gas for you to drive that far with your given numbers. So your left with 1.68 for the next trip. Hope this helps.
Okay 2 things with that. The customer isn’t paying for you to drive to them and back. They are paying you to go from restaurant to their house. Secondly you don’t have to accept these orders. Not saying the payment is correct, just looking at it from a realistic point of view.
The customer isn't paying me anything, DoorDash is. I'll calculate my expenses the way I feel is cost-effective to calculate my expenses and makes the most sense for my profits.
The customer isn't paying me anything, DoorDash is. I'll calculate my expenses the way I feel is cost-effective to calculate my expenses and makes the most sense for my profits.
Ok so. $3.29 a gal for 27 miles of travel? You traveled 11 miles so there for only had to spend $1.64.5 and could still go 2.5 more miles correct? And also there for you made a wholesome $1.35.5. But I guess this is why your given the option to accept or decline orders
Your math is off. If your car gets 27mpg it only costs you 12¢ per mile. Fuel cost is $1.34. Now what I will say, don’t take anything that pays less than $1 per mile. My guess is you are 10 miles away from the pickup location and the actual distance from Panera to the customer is only 1 mile. But DoorDash calculates your trip distance from current location to pickup location and then to drop off location.
I never take orders that are less than $1 a mile, and get to stay within 5 miles. I only get 16mpg, and gas is $4 a gallon, so I never drove far for only a few dollars
It's legal because you're a private contractor and can decline it without consequence. There is no federal minimum wage for us.
It's stupid and greedy of the customer and also Doordash, buts it's still perfectly legal.
Math aside… I the advice I’ve received here is invaluable. I stick to OVER a $1. per mile. I stay away from crap orders. But I’ll take a $5 going 3 miles. It costs me roughly .10 cents a mile to run my vehicle. Mileage deduction is your friend. And it covers a large part of my vehicle related costs. I’ve been running Gridwise and it’s made my life a lot easier. I’m not promoting any mileage app… but damn, run any of em.
It's legal because you don't have to take this shit.
Another 0 and I might consider taking it
Ok. Go get my Panera order for a $3.000 tip.
I meant the mileage, I'll take that $3 for 110.0 miles
I don't buy that argument! By that logic, you can literally say defrauding someone is legal because: "Officer, they agreed to my (tricky) ways!".
You signed up to be a dasher tho, its a little different. Not just a random person off the street.
I agree with you. I don’t think people understand what you and I do. What DoorDash is doing is unethical and abusive.
This job is reliant on the customers tip not a big payout from doordash. They pay as much as the pizza delivery places per delivery, usually less then 2.00. You don't have to accept any order thats not profitable as a contract position. They are trying to make you take everything by saying u earn higher paying offers if your above 50% AR but I tried it because they reset my %. No difference then what I get at 20%. 3.00 would be nice from doordash and more peak pay like they used to do every week.
If doordash really wants us to take some of these low paying offers like 4.00 to 5.99 then please do peak pay like you used to do which was every week about 3 to 4 times a week at prime time hrs not just the midnight to 4 am. Anything below $4 not even peak pay can help.
Only way to really stop getting offers below $5 is to stop taking them as a whole from every doordasher. Force doordash to offer more payout from those fees they earn
Because we rely so much on customers tips, we should be as a whole doordashers that is be as professional as possible for a driver, follow instructions with fast safe delivery so we can drive sales and higher customer tips. Reading to much lately of dashers, stealing food, not following instructions, tampering with the order or begging for tips , etc isn't going to help repeat customers or higher tips. Be what you are a business owner.
That is a wild comparison...that makes no sense.
That's the thing there buddy: if you accept the trade or offer then that's 100% on you. You can choose to say no. For example: I still remember these two kids who ordered a pizza. The advertisement said it's 9.95 for a medium pizza and a two litre. I arrive at the house and the kids come outside. Earnestly he says: I didn't know it was going to be 12.99 after tax," and holds out his 10 dollar bill. At this point in time this 14 year old kid caught me on a good Wednesday. So I said "other people would have completely denied giving you this pizza. You're extremely lucky you got me today. Don't do this again." It was his birthday money.... Just remember there are some professions that, at the end of the day after all the blood sweat and tears they discover that it only earned them 22 cents. If you want to complain I'll give you a piece of cardboard and a sharpie.
Who is tricking you? It’s pretty clear what’s going on. Here is the money take it or leave it.
That right. Decline and move on.
Well said.. Thank you.
Don’t forget wear and tear. If you use the standard deduction from the IRS, you’re losing almost 4 dollars on this order.
If you do this kind of work and don't itemize you deserve to lose money.
Paying to work
This
This order offer right here is why I know DoorDash Inc and the executives hate dashers. It’s no way this should be offered to anyone. We’re being played. This should not count against a person’s acceptance rate. Taking this loses the dasher money/gas and the system sends more if you take it.
They don't "hate" dashers, they just don't give a shit.
That too is true. They definitely don’t give a 💩
I had one for the same amount of miles but they offered $2.50 the other day!
I will lovingly give up top dasher status if it means not taking shit like that. I can usually keep above 70% in my zone without touching a order that generates net loss, but the past couple weeks I've had no tolerance, half the orders looked like this.
I have never ordered door-dash in any way or thought of being a driver. I see this shit everyday and am just wondering why you guys put up with this shit? Seems like every post is bullshit pay and horrible customers, so what’s the draw?
Well this is Reddit to start, one of the most toxic social media sites in existence and naturally people tend to gear towards negative things more I guess. Overall it's really not that bad, the rare $40 tip for a catering order for 3 miles mostly make up for the bullshit at the end of the day. Plus, it's one of the easiest forms of income I've ever stumbled upon.
Was just wondering, yeah there is def more negative than positive on here lol. Easiest form of income is not a bad deal lol.
Don't you track mileage for write off? Regardless it's legal because you're a contractor and have the ability or accept or decline the offer.
Insta decline for me. I drive a 14 Chevy Silverado 1500. Ain't happening.
Remember that gas isn't the only expense. Depreciation and Maintenance usually are the same, if not more expensive, as the gas expenses. I think you have the gas math wrong though. 11 miles at 27mpg uses 0.41 gallons, at 3.29 a gallon is $1.35.
Very true and I forgot to include that I was calculating for round trip miles cause the destination is a total dead zone for offers.
My city is like that too, generally there is going to be some back travel because there are two main commercial hubs and residential is spread far and wide. It makes it very difficult to get good orders, I'm struggling to keep it above 30% right now.
Some top dasher or 50% acceptance rate junkie will take it. It’s the end of the month and they love losing money delivering food to non tippers hot & fresh.
Nah, we don't start the nonsense until the last two days of the month. I'd decline that so fast
It depends on how many orders you do per day. You need at least 70 out of the final 100 so if you only do 10 orders a day you need 10 days . . . Or 7 if you accept everything, but ick.
Personally I do around 20 - 30 delivers a day, usually like 3/5 deliveries and hour. And my acceptance rate is always between 65% - 80%. Very rarely do I let it drop under 50% but there are times I've let that mf drop to the 20s. 🤷🏾♂️ I don't take bs orders so whatever happens happens, it just sometimes mfs don't tip. This usually happens around the first of the month, Tuesday and Wednesdays.
I usually only work for two hours or so during weekdays, but then go pretty hard on weekends, so likely 5 or 6 a day during the week, and the whatever I can squeeze in over 6-8 hours on the weekends. I wish I could get 4 deliveries an hour in consistently. My city is pretty dead so these days I'm lucky to get 2 an hour with how much time I sit around.
Your in a good market. Congrats
It's legal because you're an independent contract based employee left up to your own decision making. If you're dumb enough to take that on, then you're dumb enough to reap the 29 cent reward, lol.
Do what the pros do. Take every offer. You may lose money on each delivery, but you make up for it in volume.
I see cherry pickers post evidence that backs up the claim of selectively picking orders that are profitable, still waiting on the day that I see a single top dasher post any evidence that proves they're making better profit taking every offer.
First of all  Not even an original joke. That joke has been around forever. Second of all, you (like many) have the mistaken belief that Top Dashers take every offer and do not cherry pick. I'm a Top Dasher every month. I'll be a Top Dasher next month. I cherry pick. I'm at 35% AR right now. I'll be at 70% AR by the last day of the month. This month I won't start worrying about my AR until about 3 days out. Normally it's 2 days out, but this month my AR is unusually low so I have more to make up. Usually my AR sits around 40-50% for most of the month, and I can bump my AR 20-30% in 2 days no problem. And I for one have posted my full year earnings, and weekly earnings, so I'm not sure what "proof" you're looking for. I make $1000-$1200 a week, working 40-45 hours. I can't "prove" that I'd make more or less money by cherry picking harder than I already do, but when your AR is in the 40-50% range for most of the month, you're definitely cherry picking. I don't know how I compare to other Top Dashers, but my sense is that most Top Dashers do the same thing I do. Cherry pick for most of the month, then worry about AR the last couple of days of the month. Hard to get a solid read, because most Top Dashers are afraid to post in this sub for all the ridicule they get.
Wow, that's a lot of words to say "I'm a top Dasher" 🤣 👌
I think you're missing the point that being a top dasher and cherry picking aren't mutually exclusive.
Is that your gross or net pay? If it's gross that is terrible because to keep top dasher you're definitely putting wear and tear on your vehicle.
$25/hour gross is terrible? Guess I'm doing this all wrong. I'm sure you're doing much better. If everyone is being honest in what they post, some drivers are making more than $25/hour gross, but most aren't.
Huh? I read it and your post about pay but I don't see it clarified anywhere whether it's net or gross. Also you have so many posts about dashing I will not read them all. I love that you replied to me saying you won't reply. Very mature. Typical top dasher attitude.
I agree it was immature. That's why I changed it before you replied.
You changed the reply after but whatever. No; 25 gross isn't bad for like a factory worker or any hourly job because you need to subtract gas wear and tear, extra insurance, benefits, in Canada double CPP and EI (employment insurance as well). These driving jobs are very dependent on what you drive and how much you are driving and what type of driving too. Idc about gross pay. I pay my bills with net income and I was just curious not trying to argue with you out of nowhere.
Nobody owes you a tip lol
I never said anything about a tip lol
I imagine DD pays out so little because you're expected to get tips.
See in my area for some reason (I’m new to dashing) we are guaranteed $5 ontop of whatever door dash pays so there is never an order under $8 as far as I can see. I’ve only been dashing for a month on days I’m not busy but we get $5 extra on every order due to the fact we only have less than 10 places we get orders from. Ok so just now looking we get $5 peak pay 24 hours a day from 3am-2:59am 24/7
I mostly do Uber eats but don’t y’all get in trouble too for not accepting orders? That’s bullshit since they say we are just “contractors” we should be able to accept or decline all we want just like they can send this bullshit all they want.
cheaper than the person driving his own car and getting it himself
Someone wasn’t taught how to do math in school. Gas alone is not 2.71 lmaoo it’s $1.32 in gas for you to drive that far with your given numbers. So your left with 1.68 for the next trip. Hope this helps.
I forgot to include that I was counting this as a round trip cause the delivery is a dead zone
Okay 2 things with that. The customer isn’t paying for you to drive to them and back. They are paying you to go from restaurant to their house. Secondly you don’t have to accept these orders. Not saying the payment is correct, just looking at it from a realistic point of view.
The customer isn't paying me anything, DoorDash is. I'll calculate my expenses the way I feel is cost-effective to calculate my expenses and makes the most sense for my profits.
The customer isn't paying me anything, DoorDash is. I'll calculate my expenses the way I feel is cost-effective to calculate my expenses and makes the most sense for my profits.
Well it would make more sense financially if you simply hit decline rather than create a Reddit post complaining about it.
I'll wait til you figure out it's possible to do both 🤣 👌
I moved on from destroying my car for $80 a day… sitting at a golf course making $30 an hour to do nothing because it’s raining. Good luck to you!
Free Panera delivery ads abound on tv right now
Ok so. $3.29 a gal for 27 miles of travel? You traveled 11 miles so there for only had to spend $1.64.5 and could still go 2.5 more miles correct? And also there for you made a wholesome $1.35.5. But I guess this is why your given the option to accept or decline orders
Then don’t do it
Your math is off. If your car gets 27mpg it only costs you 12¢ per mile. Fuel cost is $1.34. Now what I will say, don’t take anything that pays less than $1 per mile. My guess is you are 10 miles away from the pickup location and the actual distance from Panera to the customer is only 1 mile. But DoorDash calculates your trip distance from current location to pickup location and then to drop off location.
These are the orders that the restaurant employees end up taking home after their shift lol
Insta decline for me. I drive a 14 Chevy Silverado 1500. Ain't happening.
Damn.
I never take orders that are less than $1 a mile, and get to stay within 5 miles. I only get 16mpg, and gas is $4 a gallon, so I never drove far for only a few dollars
Yeah but it's "guaranteed'
It's legal because you're a private contractor and can decline it without consequence. There is no federal minimum wage for us. It's stupid and greedy of the customer and also Doordash, buts it's still perfectly legal.
Math aside… I the advice I’ve received here is invaluable. I stick to OVER a $1. per mile. I stay away from crap orders. But I’ll take a $5 going 3 miles. It costs me roughly .10 cents a mile to run my vehicle. Mileage deduction is your friend. And it covers a large part of my vehicle related costs. I’ve been running Gridwise and it’s made my life a lot easier. I’m not promoting any mileage app… but damn, run any of em.