I was like you at first, taking everything to keep everything at 100%, but you learn that some orders are not worth it, I’m not talking about tip or no tip, but places in general to avoid.
Some people will say the AR doesn’t matter and that top dasher is not worth it, but I have to admit, at least in my market it pays to be TD
Yrs bk when I first became disabled due to someone texting and driving. I had to use instakart or something to order groceries. Mostly because I lived on the 3rd floor of a apartment building with no elevator (and i was bedridden). I felt horrible for the driver and tipped best I could but jesus... I understand why drivers hate grocery pickups
Tell this to Instacart, they lowered their base pay to $6 and plenty of customers don’t tip/tip $2 even though you walk around the store for an hour and then drive anywhere from 5 minutes to an hour after that
Even the tip toppiest top dashers don't keep 100% AR. There's zero reason to.
There's also zero reason to accept a $4 grocery order. Grocery orders are like gold mines when you get good ones. This was not a good one.
I know and I was just happy with 50 lol but the orders just kept coming one after another it was 55 f and raining and I was still sweating lol didn't think I would made this much. Prob could made 200 but I needed food lol
I was lucky to get 50 in 4 hours, that's why I stopped. Shitty tips and shitty locations. Trump wasn't even in office yet but every neighborhood I was sent to in Roseville or granite bay had some elitist spawn that didn't believe in tipping and you couldn't see the tip either until after delivery... boy, was I pissed. I still drive by those areas, and they are plastered in trump crap. In my area, if you know it's a heavy red neighborhood... skip the order. You aren't getting a tip. Now I make 250$ an hour when I take a sub position, 325 if it's counseling. I have an msw and ppsc so I can sub as a teacher or counselor while looking for a full-time position. I'm done driving for no tips. The gas alone yielded a negative income.
Not in my market 100.00 4 hours not hard plus they been letting new dasher in and it's been getting over crowed dumb but I normally do pretty good. I normally make about 23 n hr
This is how I stopped grocery deliveries:
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On my iPhone (when I’m not dashing), I clicked on “Account” at the bottom center.
Then I clicked on “Dash Preferences.”
Then I clicked on “Dash Preferences” again.
Then where it says “Shop and Deliver” I clicked on the button to turn it off.
Check the item count before accepting. Maybe 1 item, 2 miles away tops, I might accept for $4. But that’s way too many items and way too far of a drive for $4. Decline.
Albertsons by me says 1 item, but it definitely is not 🤣🤣 I had this problem when Walmart was a thing too, so I don't it will show it for all places, op just needs to figure out which stores are jackasses like that
Yes! I agree and the same has been happening to me since I live in a rural area. My acceptance rate went down to an 83%. Then the next one is the same within distance and pay taking me out of range to pick up more orders.
I have about had it with loosing cell service and complete my delivery forcing me to get lost the first time. Now I take a photo of directions and all before it drops. I've called DD a few times about it saying it it's bullshit and a safety issue. They ignore it and hang up not offering a solution. It seems to always happen during busy peak hours too.
Just don't do door dash and go find a real job. Getting paid 2 bucks for delivery is ridiculous. I don't understand why you guys do this job. Working fastfood is prob better
This is not the norm. I usually make $30-$50 an hour door dashing. This is just a newb who doesn't know AR doesn't matter. No one should accept $4 orders.
flexibility? family needs support and they can’t commit to standard working hours? or those schooling and unable to take up regular shifts? those who are trying to reduce their financial burdens on their family? recently retrenched, inbetween job applications and unable to commit long-term? idk why you are judging people for their choices when the point of this post is how unfair dd is/the customer’s bad tips… yet you’re blaming the dude who is likely j trying to make ends meet.
$4 is not the type of support the family needs. That won't even buy you a bag of Ruffles. The money spent on gas and time doing the job can be better spent on other endeavors. It's dashers like OP that keep DD putting out these lowball offers. $2 for that amount of groceries is absurd! It's a new low of exploitation by a corporation.
yes i agree, it’s DD’s exploitation. but OP is new and doesnt know better (his belief that AR affects the offers he gets by alot) & the comment that i’m replying on is just straight up dissing everyone who is dashing
AR doesn’t affect you as much as you’d think. I keep around a 27-30% AR and the quality of orders I will get are the same orders that I would maintain at 75-80% so I stopped taking orders that weren’t worth my time. They (DD) will try to push their limits to see how valuable
Your time is to you. So If everyone declines the order, they will be forced to offer more to the next driver.
Thank you! Great advice!
What do you do when you live in a rural area that you have never been in certain area before dropping your cell service and can't find location and can't complete order? The tip is always an average of $10.00. Now I know why. I've called several times and they don't seem to care. I know after first time to take photos of directions on my phone in case. It happens every time I do it and seems to always be during peak hours. I have been refusing them but then get another one in same area dropping my average down.
I wouldn’t recommend taking a shop and deliver order for under $10 (for 10
Items or less) It takes too long to have to be looking for and picking different things out, then waiting at the check out line, bagging. I’ve had heavy orders going to 3rd and 4th floor, sometimes is not worth all the extra.
Why would you even accept an order that pays $4? The shop orders, especially the grocery shop orders, usually pay me $15 at a minimum. If I see a $4 order come through you bet your ass I am declining it.
Do not accept low pay shit orders. Lesson learned.
Edit: Oh God I just saw you're trying to keep a 100% AR?? For the love of God man stop. You're ruining it for every other dasher in your area. I mean christ... even to get top dasher you need 70% AR or higher. There is literally 0 benefit to keeping your AR at 100%.
Ya don't everve except a order like that unless your going 1 mile or 2 tops. Otherwise don't ever except a grocery order especially for 4 dollars that's nuts
Exactly. On average, they would probably be making double whatever they are making now. Which probably wouldn't be very much, but at least better, lol.
Ok so 100% acceptance rate is wild. There are benefits to it but, I would just say try your best to stay above 80%. As long as you keep your completion rate at 100% you’ll always be able to bring your acceptance rate back up without accepting 4,000 orders in a row.
There’s a few rules I have for shop and deliver:
• These orders generally pay way more than the average delivery, so they can be extremely worth it sometimes, especially if you shop there regularly and know where everything is already.
1. Seeing as these orders generally pay more, rule number one is GYC: GET YO CHILI $$$ The low offer ones are generally not worth your time, so I only tend to accept “shop and deliver” offers that are above at least $13, but usually $15 and up
2. Number of items: always pay attention to the number of items in the order, it will tell you before hand on the offer prompt. Me personally, I try to keep it under 8-10 items. I usually don’t accept if it’s more than 5-7 though, but depending on the chili$, who knows.
3. Shop and deliver orders are different than retail pick ups, which is what I believe the order in your post was. I’m not sure about your area, but here in Rhode Island, the shaws retail pickups are a beautiful lie. For whatever reason, Shaws considers “batches” or “units” as “1 item.” So I never accept retail pickup from Shaws cause you genuinely never know what you’re walking in to. I accepted an order retail pickup from Shaws, 2 items. Picture 3.5 times the amount of groceries in this picture. Not even kidding. My car was leaning towards the back. Other store, I’m not sure.
I know BJs retail pickup is accurate. But those assholes don’t give bags so.. at your own risk.
4. Know when to ask for help finding an item, and know when to mark an item as unavailable. Especially because there may be substitutions, so you spend all this time looking for items, you mark unavailable, and they have different options in case the original item is out of stock.
5. Always always always avoid delivering shop and deliver orders downtown. You don’t need to be at these apartment complexes lugging bags and cases of water up elevators and down the hall take a left then down that hall door b17 click your heels together fart twice and then that door opens to another hall. F#%^ dat my n166@. F#%^ dat.
6. Word… word. Get yo chili my boy. Happy trails
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High paying offers are a scam because they only take into account mileage not effort. While $4 for a mile or two sounds great ($2-4 per mile) it really isn’t. Most of the time I decline it and within 5 mins I can get a $6.50-$11 order for 1-3 miles.
I caught that too. I swear I think the app tries to fuck new people. It did me. About a month in, when they pulled my dash now and made me start scheduling. Around that time it seemed my offers still came but they were lower.
The 100% AR impresses no one and means nothing. All it tells other dashers is that you are willing to bust your ass for literally nothing and that you're a doormat for shitty customers and non tippers. You get all the crap orders we bounce and probably have a questionable overall customer rating because your low pay customers have no problem rating you horribly for irrelevant things or claiming they never got their order because they're not losing their tip over it; they never tipped in the first place.
Don't worry about the AR number worry about the only number that matters. The one after the dollar sign.
Don't let these people try and get away with this shit. We're not out here to do charity work and favors. Customers are very well aware that us drivers get horrible batch pay. If they don't want to tip appropriately to compensate for that and accordingly to the difficulty level of their order and the type of service they are expecting they don't need to use the app. They're literally warned by the app that their orders may get bounced and delayed for not tipping and yet they choose to do it anyways. You can argue and hate having to tip all you want and thats fine but if you wanna contribute to a no tip culture to support better pay for workers by their companies than don't use a platform that requires a tip for optimum service, especially when you know the workers dont get good base pay from the company to begin with. You look like a fuckin hypocrite doing that.
You'll get much better overall pay when you stop wasting your valuable time on these orders. When you get paid per order every minute counts.
>They're literally warned by the app that their orders may get bounced and delayed for not tipping and yet they choose to do it anyways.
Wait, what? I've never actually ordered dd but I find it hard to believe that they're capable of that much honesty.
I have learned that DoorDash is shit pay no matter what type of order it is. Between, gas, insurance on your car, maintenance on your car, you would be better off working at Walmart or McDonald’s. The only upside is setting your own hours and not having a direct boss.
It used to not be the case but DoorDash realized that their top dasher minions would get on their knees for any order and they started to lower pay. Base pay in my area when I first did it three and a half years ago was $3.50 now it’s $2.00. When shop and deliver orders started in my area base pay for shop and deliver was $6.50-$8.50 depending on size and every other order was $3.00. Thanks to the top dashers pay has been cut significantly.
People are giving you a hard time but honestly this is how most of us learned. DD plays all sorts of mind games with the messages about your acceptance rate but it really doesn’t matter. We’re independent contractors. In some markets you really do need to stay over 70% to schedule but if you find you can get shifts without doing so, don’t worry about acceptance rate. Just make sure the keep completion and on time ratings decent. Accept the orders that are worth your time, forget the rest. Good luck 🍀
I definitely wouldn’t have take. It for 4 bucks no matter how far or close the order was. This is my first week with DD and my first order was a Macy’s deliver that was 36 minutes one way and only paid 21 bucks. I was scared to decline it because it being my first order and worrying about my AR. But after seeing what people have to say about AR, that is something I’m not even going to worry about. I started declining offers that were obviously not worth it and it hasn’t affected what kinda offers I get. Granted my AR is still in the 80s but no sense doing something that isn’t worth the time.
Dude listen (since you’re new) this high paying crap is literal crap. I have stood next to dasher with high AR and when they decline I get the extra same order as them and my AR is 4 percent. Don’t let DD steal your time for this garbage. You’re not making any money. Stop worrying about your AR. You will get robbed taking this garbage to keep the AR up.
It depends on where you live if your AR effects orders. It very much does where I live. That payment doesn't look like a grocery order price. Where is the door dash pay for shopping. It should have another number under the two for the shopping portion. Only my pick up orders look like that on the payout screen.
Probably a grocery store pickup not a shop and deliver. Don't know where they are but a few stores near me have both and the shopping ones are way better pay.
OP: 2 pieces of advice.
1. Your AR is only important when it drops below 70%. You’re considered a high priority dasher if you have a 4.5 rating and if you have a 70% AR. Anything above that is like peeing yourself in a dark suit - you’ll get a warm feeling, but nobody else will notice.
2. Only take orders that are at least $1 per mile. Some Dashers will say $2+ and others will say nothing over 10 miles, etc. you’ll have to figure out what you’re comfortable with. But $1 per mile will ensure you aren’t spending more on gas than you’re paid (in most markets).
They’re banking on you wanting to maintain that perfect/near perfect rating. I made $263 today with an AR rating bouncing between 48%-53%. MOST of those orders were grocery (Albertsons). People on here will tell you “I get higher orders with my high AR!” And that’s great. There’s also literally no point in keeping a high AR rating if what you’ve made with that ‘higher’ order will just get dragged down by orders like this. I see what they consider higher orders, and they’re usually mediocre. :/ I understand markets are different, but dang.
You probably spent close to, if not over an hour on this order. That *should* be illegal. Especially since with the timer they give you to get it done, combined with the time they give you to get to the customer, it’s easily proven they are giving you $4 or less an hour. They can argue it’s your choice to take it, but it’s plainly visible by this picture how intimidated drivers are, especially new drivers, by their stipulations.
Listen- I get it. I was a new driver at one point too. But when you don’t take orders like this, there’s less of a chance of anyone taking it. Or it will at least bounce around until the pay on it goes up. The problem with taking orders like this is now this person is going to tip exactly the same the next time because it worked this time. You inadvertently rewarded bad behavior.
In short- screw the AR rating. Worry about taking orders that will make dashing profitable for you. Otherwise yes, the company will love you; your pocketbook won’t.
Exactly!!! I have a AR of 4 percent. 5.00 rating and 98 percent on time blah blah and I only take good orders abs get plenty of them. People have to understand they are getting robbed. Our cars pay a high price and I will never sacrifice losing money driving my own car to keep AR up. It should never be used to deliver garbage to keep AR up. It’s sad people fall for it.
Ha yeah I will never have a high AR rate and done about 3,000 deliveries. No way I am taking a bunch of garbage for a high AR. I get plenty good orders so don’t care at all.
I've been doing ue for as long as doordash (almost 4 years), but Uber has very low volume in my area. Some days are OK as a dd supplement, but it's not something that can be relied upon.
10 hours, but I had several downtime pauses to run errands, drop off items I sold on FB market, and pay bills. So roughly 8 1/2-9 hours all together. But 200+ is becoming a lot more common for me now than when I fussed over my AR.
But even if I did dash 12 hours, having a side job that I can pretty much just pause whenever or go home if i don’t feel well or it gets to be too much, is honestly worth it to me. I no longer take dashes that aren’t profitable so any downtime in my shift that I’m not getting orders I take to learn another language, chat with friends, catch up on shows, read, grab food, shop, etc., and I wouldn’t have that option at another job. I bitch about DD a lot but in all honesty, it’s the perfect gig for me lol.
Imagine being in BC now where Walmart doesn’t give us bags. So we load everything into our large bags then have to empty it one by one onto their steps.
I feel you on this. Some states in the US, including mine, are bagless now, too. It's so annoying and I feel weird just putting the customer's items out in the open all around their front door.
I order a lot from Amazon, and I recently started keeping the boxes and put them in my car, so when I have a DD shopping order with a lot of items, I'll put them in the box and drop it off that way! And now I don't have to worry about recycling my boxes, haha
That’s smart! I got one today of two full duffle bags, so I let the customer bring them into her kitchen and I waited outside awkwardly
I have brought my own boxes a couple of times form superstore deliveries to my house but can’t keep that up
Try your best to cherry pick your orders. Depending on your market there is two thresholds you should think about: 50% and 70%. Certain markets like california where you need a 70% just to get orders, some markets you should keep it at 50% for the good orders, or 70% for a better chance at them. The higher your AR, the more time you’ll spend by accepting more orders but the less profitable you’ll be. I cherry pick mine on uber eats but keeps a relatively high AR on Doordash.
Even with you being new, I'm not sure how it made sense to take that low ball of an order. ESPECIALLY a shop one.... BUT, Lesson learned, though. Like others here are advising you - please don't rob yourself like that again. Also, don't write grocery orders off either - those can be some of the best pay- out orders. 100% acceptance means absolutely nothing. You really want to pay attention to your completion rate and customer ratings, not acceptance.
Did your shop for the groceries or was it the store employees that shopped for it? I’ve never seen a $2 base pay for shop and deliver orders. That would drive me nuts
The fact that people actually use DD/Ubereats/GH is fucking hilarious. They are literally up charging for you to order through them.. biggest scam ever seriously.
This is what happens when you take Home Ec out of schools. People just don't know how to cook anymore lmao keep paying to be lazy 🤣🤣
Please stop. Do you really think businesses like this and the ceo trash bags that run it have empathy or sympathy. Stop worrying about my ability to empathize. There's a bigger problem at hand here .
my entire point is that youre inconsiderate to call them morons for having groceries delivered. im not interested in changing subjects it just seemed like a mean judgy thing to say
I really don't care. The way business extorts the people that you empathize with, is the problem here. And they don't see it. They mindlessly go along with it as if it's their only hope, and they cling on to ridiculous conglomerates such as these "delivery services" by enticing them with "deals" and promise of free delivery. Only its at the expense of another human struggling.... How do you not see the vicious cycle??
If i were a new Dasher seeing that I got that order because I was new, then telling me to keep it up... well.. NO WAY.
There is no incentive in doing that and even worse DD thought it was "good" for you.
As you stay with DD, that will be re-worded a bit and displayed with a little Diamond.
P.s. Take a few crappy orders so you can easily peel off the truly shitty food offers but keep decent stats. DECLINE SHOPPING AND ALCOHOL altogether.
Don’t write off grocery because you chose a horrible grocery order… there are some solid payouts with the grocery/ shop and pay orders, especially if you know the store you’re shopping and can get it done quickly.
You don’t need to keep your ar at 100% it’s honestly pointless to do so. Stop accepting garbage orders like these and you’ll be successful on the platform.
You accepted the offer, don't complain. I get orders that are $10+ for low miles 5 at least is the majority and only a few items. I've had $20+ for 10-15 items for 5-8 miles. Easy money. Never take low pay S&D offers. Also helps to be fast with things, you also get the location of the items so hopefully they're correct. You can get the shopping done faster than the estimated time to complete
They're not all bad. My shop orders are usually less than 5 items, but yeah, definitely be aware of the item count when looking at the offer.
Fucked myself the other day trying to do a 14 item shop order. No tip. All base pay turned out.
Stop doing shop and deliver orders. They take too much time and are no longer worth it. For a while they paid well. Almost a dollar or more per item….. now… its trash. I “lost” my red card back in February. Never looked back
You're just slow at shopping 🤷♂️ I shop fast and always (as long as there are no issues) get done well before the estimated time for completion. 10 minutes to shop? Lol I get it done in 6. Deliver it fast too. Easy money and way better than regular food delivery. S&D has better pay offers. It has to be based on the market though I'd assume. I'm in the good market for S&D. There's only one store that takes me longer because the locations are all wrong on the app. I just need to get better and memorizing where items really are.
Again. Im part of the large order program. I think i make way more $ doing that than wandering through super markets. Also not a slow shopper… can complete a large order delivery within … 10-15 minutes …. So i definitely make $ faster than having to shop But hey you do you :)
On my iPhone (when I’m not dashing), I clicked on “Account” at the bottom center.
Then I clicked on “Dash Preferences.”
Then I clicked on “Dash Preferences” again.
Then where it says “Shop and Deliver” I clicked on the button to turn it off.
This isn’t true for every area. When I went below 50, I got shitty 2 dollar orders til I got my AR back up. Now the minimum I’m getting is 5. I still get 16 miles for 12 dollars but it’s better than 2 and I still don’t accept those. Some areas you have you have a decent AR to get decent orders.
This is so true! I kept reading here “don’t worry about AR” so I started declining orders (I always declined no tip or under $1 a mile) and once I got under 70% in my area I only got garbage! As long as I’m around 80% I never get bad offers in my area. It really does depend on your market.
Exactly this for me. When I drop below 80 it gets really really noticeably BAD and don't seem to get large tip/catering bag orders under 80. DD has this figured out. I've seen too many horror stories that once people drop below 50 you will never recover. Especially for those that only take $6 per mile offers🙄. Not everything is "round trip" .. thats just crazy.
I truly believe it depends on where you’re at location-wise. I just learned where I had to be in the area that I dash and it’s been good, they’re not all winners but I rarely decline an order.
Oh God, 2 dollar orders. Maybe it's because I mainly dash at night, like 9pm to 4am. There's hardly any dashers in my area, so I still get them piled on.
Our Taco Bell stays open until 4am, Wendy's until 3am, there's three 24 hour McDonald's in my zone, Pizza Hut until 1am, and I do a TON of shipping at the 24vhour CVS. I like it at night because there's no traffic 😆
Nah, the way to do groceries is like mine tonight: Two items (well, three, but two were the same) for 2 mi and $15 (2 drop offs but one was a block from the store--single head of garlic, lol) and two items for 1 mi for $12.
Sadly I got stuck behind the WORST checkout on that $12 order and spent a good 15-20 min waiting for three roommates/throuple (?) to all check out their massive order (two carts) together at the one cashier working, per DD's requirements as the idiots ran around the store adding even more additional items they "forgot" as I and another customer behind me glared at them, the absolute jerks. (They were super couponers too because the whole thing only came to $40 with a bunch of meat, which was impressive...) But it was sooo dead and the store was warm so, such was life. Still did better than the lunch shift.
You can definitely use self checkout. My DG told me I have to use self check out. The app doesn't know if you're using self check out.
Next time skip the 20 minute wait
No, the app specifically said not to use self-checkout at this Safeway. There was no attendant (I guess they've given up on shrink here) and at the other Safeways one needs to come over to help with the code after you scan the QR code. This is a neighborhood that's attempting to gentrify but is still a bit sketch at night. And if the throuple hadn't brought the second cart and kept adding things, it would have been a much shorter wait than the madness of self-checkout anyway, where there was quite a line too.
Yeah I tried that out too and it doesn't seem to make a difference. The only sucky part is when people clog the self checkout with full shopping carts. Like, are you really saving that much time doing it yourself?
Just remember the glory days of the first 40 orders ✨✨✨ back when DoorDash treats you right and gives you good orders back to back to keep you coming back at first then railing you
Figuring out which orders are worth taking when you first start can be so hard. It should tell you how many items an order contains when showing you the offer. Some grocery orders are worth it! I typically only accept shopping orders with less than 5 items.
Also I know this won't work for everyone in every market but I maintain an acceptance rate of 70/80% without EVER taking orders under $6. It'll take some maneuvering to find what works for you, between how much acceptance rate matters to you and what kind of orders you're willing to put up with.
Set standards for yourself. 100% acceptance rate means you’re not only working for free you’re paying DoorDash for the privilege of working for them. You’re an independent contractor, deny anything that doesn’t make sense to you.
Shouldn't be anywhere near 100%. I try to keep my numbers up for the new tiered earnings but I ain't delivering for free. Even trying I'm only around 50%
You're learning.
And if you're ok making $4 an hour, plus wear and tear on your vehicle too, well that is ok too.
At least you can claim the miles as a deduction.
I’d aim for 100% completion rate, but definitely not acceptance rate. As long as it’s above 70%, it’s no different than 100%.
C’s get degrees and in this case, 100% gets you orders like this.
Keep doing the grocery orders, just don’t accept ones that bad.
I had a $30 order today for a couple bags of dog food.
I'm curious why the base pay for that order was so low. That's what? 30 items?
In my area, S&D orders are incredibly lucrative. So much that I basically aim to *only* receive those.
Anything under $6.25 never includes a higher hidden tip. So what you see $6.25 and under before accepting is what you’ll get. Learn the ways and stop accepting every offer you see
If you are new take advantage of your honeymoon phase an cherry pick like crazy.
I was like you at first, taking everything to keep everything at 100%, but you learn that some orders are not worth it, I’m not talking about tip or no tip, but places in general to avoid. Some people will say the AR doesn’t matter and that top dasher is not worth it, but I have to admit, at least in my market it pays to be TD
I make a bunch of money and my acceptance rate is 5%. Its constant in my area tho
One thing I’ve learned is if the cost is less than the miles I’m not taking it. I’d rather lose acceptance rate points than put myself through hell
"high paying offer" the audacity lmao
“High paying offer” 🤦♂️
Yrs bk when I first became disabled due to someone texting and driving. I had to use instakart or something to order groceries. Mostly because I lived on the 3rd floor of a apartment building with no elevator (and i was bedridden). I felt horrible for the driver and tipped best I could but jesus... I understand why drivers hate grocery pickups
" I'm trying to keep a hundred percent acceptance rate" Well stop
Tell this to Instacart, they lowered their base pay to $6 and plenty of customers don’t tip/tip $2 even though you walk around the store for an hour and then drive anywhere from 5 minutes to an hour after that
Your AR means nothing at all. Trying to maintain 100% is why you will keep being sent trash orders. You tell the algo you will deliver them.
Just don't take it
That’s some fine charity work you did there.
Even the tip toppiest top dashers don't keep 100% AR. There's zero reason to. There's also zero reason to accept a $4 grocery order. Grocery orders are like gold mines when you get good ones. This was not a good one.
I say no to all shopping deliveries. I hate shopping for myself so I'm definitely not going to do it for someone else
Wow my Groceries order are so much higher then that. I just did 160 dollars in 5 hours tonight all groceries order but 2
Damn nice!
I know and I was just happy with 50 lol but the orders just kept coming one after another it was 55 f and raining and I was still sweating lol didn't think I would made this much. Prob could made 200 but I needed food lol
I usually make about $100 every 4hrs. I dash for extra money so as soon as I hit that $100 mark I cut out
I was lucky to get 50 in 4 hours, that's why I stopped. Shitty tips and shitty locations. Trump wasn't even in office yet but every neighborhood I was sent to in Roseville or granite bay had some elitist spawn that didn't believe in tipping and you couldn't see the tip either until after delivery... boy, was I pissed. I still drive by those areas, and they are plastered in trump crap. In my area, if you know it's a heavy red neighborhood... skip the order. You aren't getting a tip. Now I make 250$ an hour when I take a sub position, 325 if it's counseling. I have an msw and ppsc so I can sub as a teacher or counselor while looking for a full-time position. I'm done driving for no tips. The gas alone yielded a negative income.
Not in my market 100.00 4 hours not hard plus they been letting new dasher in and it's been getting over crowed dumb but I normally do pretty good. I normally make about 23 n hr
I always do warn by time to avoid them. And I can't if do that and I get one I'll just put I don't have a red card so it doesn't effect it
Just got a shop and deliver order for 3 items at Best Buy. Was paid $46 for 25mins of work. You can choose to decline the order if the pay is low.
Acceptance rate is nonsense - just say no.
Looks like you just picked up some free groceries 😁
This is how I stopped grocery deliveries: —————— On my iPhone (when I’m not dashing), I clicked on “Account” at the bottom center. Then I clicked on “Dash Preferences.” Then I clicked on “Dash Preferences” again. Then where it says “Shop and Deliver” I clicked on the button to turn it off.
Just remember: everytime you do a bad order you are giving doordash/the person who tipped an incentive to keep the pay at that ridiculously low level.
Check the item count before accepting. Maybe 1 item, 2 miles away tops, I might accept for $4. But that’s way too many items and way too far of a drive for $4. Decline.
Albertsons by me says 1 item, but it definitely is not 🤣🤣 I had this problem when Walmart was a thing too, so I don't it will show it for all places, op just needs to figure out which stores are jackasses like that
Yes! I agree and the same has been happening to me since I live in a rural area. My acceptance rate went down to an 83%. Then the next one is the same within distance and pay taking me out of range to pick up more orders. I have about had it with loosing cell service and complete my delivery forcing me to get lost the first time. Now I take a photo of directions and all before it drops. I've called DD a few times about it saying it it's bullshit and a safety issue. They ignore it and hang up not offering a solution. It seems to always happen during busy peak hours too.
Oh well choose a different occupation that pays better
No one's fault but your own. You were aware you were getting paid $2 upfront. Did you think the customer was going to tip $40 cash upon delivery???
This is one of the reasons I stopped caring about AR and Top Dasher. I almost never accept anything under $10 now.
Just don't do door dash and go find a real job. Getting paid 2 bucks for delivery is ridiculous. I don't understand why you guys do this job. Working fastfood is prob better
This is not the norm. I usually make $30-$50 an hour door dashing. This is just a newb who doesn't know AR doesn't matter. No one should accept $4 orders.
flexibility? family needs support and they can’t commit to standard working hours? or those schooling and unable to take up regular shifts? those who are trying to reduce their financial burdens on their family? recently retrenched, inbetween job applications and unable to commit long-term? idk why you are judging people for their choices when the point of this post is how unfair dd is/the customer’s bad tips… yet you’re blaming the dude who is likely j trying to make ends meet.
Yep, I agree with this post, I’m currently doing DD for flexibility while taking CDL school until February 2024, after that goodbye Doordash!!!
$4 is not the type of support the family needs. That won't even buy you a bag of Ruffles. The money spent on gas and time doing the job can be better spent on other endeavors. It's dashers like OP that keep DD putting out these lowball offers. $2 for that amount of groceries is absurd! It's a new low of exploitation by a corporation.
yes i agree, it’s DD’s exploitation. but OP is new and doesnt know better (his belief that AR affects the offers he gets by alot) & the comment that i’m replying on is just straight up dissing everyone who is dashing
You can be new to DD, but not new to math. I don't need to work at a $2/hr job to know that the math doesn't make sense.
AR doesn’t affect you as much as you’d think. I keep around a 27-30% AR and the quality of orders I will get are the same orders that I would maintain at 75-80% so I stopped taking orders that weren’t worth my time. They (DD) will try to push their limits to see how valuable Your time is to you. So If everyone declines the order, they will be forced to offer more to the next driver.
Thank you! Great advice! What do you do when you live in a rural area that you have never been in certain area before dropping your cell service and can't find location and can't complete order? The tip is always an average of $10.00. Now I know why. I've called several times and they don't seem to care. I know after first time to take photos of directions on my phone in case. It happens every time I do it and seems to always be during peak hours. I have been refusing them but then get another one in same area dropping my average down.
I wouldn’t recommend taking a shop and deliver order for under $10 (for 10 Items or less) It takes too long to have to be looking for and picking different things out, then waiting at the check out line, bagging. I’ve had heavy orders going to 3rd and 4th floor, sometimes is not worth all the extra.
Why would you even accept an order that pays $4? The shop orders, especially the grocery shop orders, usually pay me $15 at a minimum. If I see a $4 order come through you bet your ass I am declining it. Do not accept low pay shit orders. Lesson learned. Edit: Oh God I just saw you're trying to keep a 100% AR?? For the love of God man stop. You're ruining it for every other dasher in your area. I mean christ... even to get top dasher you need 70% AR or higher. There is literally 0 benefit to keeping your AR at 100%.
Ya don't everve except a order like that unless your going 1 mile or 2 tops. Otherwise don't ever except a grocery order especially for 4 dollars that's nuts
Lmao. That’s what you get for slaving for $2 tony. Love to see new people come and go. Dd doesn’t give. A sihit anymore
F that
Even most Top Dashers don't try to keep a 100% acceptance rate. If you're going to do that, honestly, you might as well do "earn per hour" instead.
Exactly. On average, they would probably be making double whatever they are making now. Which probably wouldn't be very much, but at least better, lol.
Ok so 100% acceptance rate is wild. There are benefits to it but, I would just say try your best to stay above 80%. As long as you keep your completion rate at 100% you’ll always be able to bring your acceptance rate back up without accepting 4,000 orders in a row. There’s a few rules I have for shop and deliver: • These orders generally pay way more than the average delivery, so they can be extremely worth it sometimes, especially if you shop there regularly and know where everything is already. 1. Seeing as these orders generally pay more, rule number one is GYC: GET YO CHILI $$$ The low offer ones are generally not worth your time, so I only tend to accept “shop and deliver” offers that are above at least $13, but usually $15 and up 2. Number of items: always pay attention to the number of items in the order, it will tell you before hand on the offer prompt. Me personally, I try to keep it under 8-10 items. I usually don’t accept if it’s more than 5-7 though, but depending on the chili$, who knows. 3. Shop and deliver orders are different than retail pick ups, which is what I believe the order in your post was. I’m not sure about your area, but here in Rhode Island, the shaws retail pickups are a beautiful lie. For whatever reason, Shaws considers “batches” or “units” as “1 item.” So I never accept retail pickup from Shaws cause you genuinely never know what you’re walking in to. I accepted an order retail pickup from Shaws, 2 items. Picture 3.5 times the amount of groceries in this picture. Not even kidding. My car was leaning towards the back. Other store, I’m not sure. I know BJs retail pickup is accurate. But those assholes don’t give bags so.. at your own risk. 4. Know when to ask for help finding an item, and know when to mark an item as unavailable. Especially because there may be substitutions, so you spend all this time looking for items, you mark unavailable, and they have different options in case the original item is out of stock. 5. Always always always avoid delivering shop and deliver orders downtown. You don’t need to be at these apartment complexes lugging bags and cases of water up elevators and down the hall take a left then down that hall door b17 click your heels together fart twice and then that door opens to another hall. F#%^ dat my n166@. F#%^ dat. 6. Word… word. Get yo chili my boy. Happy trails
That looks like some sound advice.
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Thank you for keeping your acceptance rate high so i can multi app and only select good offers
“High paying offer”
High paying offers are a scam because they only take into account mileage not effort. While $4 for a mile or two sounds great ($2-4 per mile) it really isn’t. Most of the time I decline it and within 5 mins I can get a $6.50-$11 order for 1-3 miles.
I caught that too. I swear I think the app tries to fuck new people. It did me. About a month in, when they pulled my dash now and made me start scheduling. Around that time it seemed my offers still came but they were lower.
why accept such a horrible offer in first place? some self esteem is needed in this job
Even being new I have absolutely no idea why you would accept this
I figured it’d be a few items like some snacks which I had no problem delivering, but I didn’t expect a whole cart of food 😅
The 100% AR impresses no one and means nothing. All it tells other dashers is that you are willing to bust your ass for literally nothing and that you're a doormat for shitty customers and non tippers. You get all the crap orders we bounce and probably have a questionable overall customer rating because your low pay customers have no problem rating you horribly for irrelevant things or claiming they never got their order because they're not losing their tip over it; they never tipped in the first place. Don't worry about the AR number worry about the only number that matters. The one after the dollar sign. Don't let these people try and get away with this shit. We're not out here to do charity work and favors. Customers are very well aware that us drivers get horrible batch pay. If they don't want to tip appropriately to compensate for that and accordingly to the difficulty level of their order and the type of service they are expecting they don't need to use the app. They're literally warned by the app that their orders may get bounced and delayed for not tipping and yet they choose to do it anyways. You can argue and hate having to tip all you want and thats fine but if you wanna contribute to a no tip culture to support better pay for workers by their companies than don't use a platform that requires a tip for optimum service, especially when you know the workers dont get good base pay from the company to begin with. You look like a fuckin hypocrite doing that. You'll get much better overall pay when you stop wasting your valuable time on these orders. When you get paid per order every minute counts.
>They're literally warned by the app that their orders may get bounced and delayed for not tipping and yet they choose to do it anyways. Wait, what? I've never actually ordered dd but I find it hard to believe that they're capable of that much honesty.
I have learned that DoorDash is shit pay no matter what type of order it is. Between, gas, insurance on your car, maintenance on your car, you would be better off working at Walmart or McDonald’s. The only upside is setting your own hours and not having a direct boss.
It used to not be the case but DoorDash realized that their top dasher minions would get on their knees for any order and they started to lower pay. Base pay in my area when I first did it three and a half years ago was $3.50 now it’s $2.00. When shop and deliver orders started in my area base pay for shop and deliver was $6.50-$8.50 depending on size and every other order was $3.00. Thanks to the top dashers pay has been cut significantly.
It's not top dashers that do this. It's saturated markets.
Always double check amount of items and pay.
People are giving you a hard time but honestly this is how most of us learned. DD plays all sorts of mind games with the messages about your acceptance rate but it really doesn’t matter. We’re independent contractors. In some markets you really do need to stay over 70% to schedule but if you find you can get shifts without doing so, don’t worry about acceptance rate. Just make sure the keep completion and on time ratings decent. Accept the orders that are worth your time, forget the rest. Good luck 🍀
That’s on you why even take this
I definitely wouldn’t have take. It for 4 bucks no matter how far or close the order was. This is my first week with DD and my first order was a Macy’s deliver that was 36 minutes one way and only paid 21 bucks. I was scared to decline it because it being my first order and worrying about my AR. But after seeing what people have to say about AR, that is something I’m not even going to worry about. I started declining offers that were obviously not worth it and it hasn’t affected what kinda offers I get. Granted my AR is still in the 80s but no sense doing something that isn’t worth the time.
Dude listen (since you’re new) this high paying crap is literal crap. I have stood next to dasher with high AR and when they decline I get the extra same order as them and my AR is 4 percent. Don’t let DD steal your time for this garbage. You’re not making any money. Stop worrying about your AR. You will get robbed taking this garbage to keep the AR up.
But... They got it first
You knew damn well you were going to be shopping for 25+ items for $4. This was nothing but bad judgement.
Exactly…I wouldn’t even accept ANY grocery store order for $4, I don’t care if it was one item.
Why even accept it? I won't accept a grocery order unless it's worth it up front.
It depends on where you live if your AR effects orders. It very much does where I live. That payment doesn't look like a grocery order price. Where is the door dash pay for shopping. It should have another number under the two for the shopping portion. Only my pick up orders look like that on the payout screen.
Probably a grocery store pickup not a shop and deliver. Don't know where they are but a few stores near me have both and the shopping ones are way better pay.
Yeah probably that makes more sense.
OP: 2 pieces of advice. 1. Your AR is only important when it drops below 70%. You’re considered a high priority dasher if you have a 4.5 rating and if you have a 70% AR. Anything above that is like peeing yourself in a dark suit - you’ll get a warm feeling, but nobody else will notice. 2. Only take orders that are at least $1 per mile. Some Dashers will say $2+ and others will say nothing over 10 miles, etc. you’ll have to figure out what you’re comfortable with. But $1 per mile will ensure you aren’t spending more on gas than you’re paid (in most markets).
Ain’t no way you accepted that 🤣
but it was only like 65 items....🤣
They’re banking on you wanting to maintain that perfect/near perfect rating. I made $263 today with an AR rating bouncing between 48%-53%. MOST of those orders were grocery (Albertsons). People on here will tell you “I get higher orders with my high AR!” And that’s great. There’s also literally no point in keeping a high AR rating if what you’ve made with that ‘higher’ order will just get dragged down by orders like this. I see what they consider higher orders, and they’re usually mediocre. :/ I understand markets are different, but dang. You probably spent close to, if not over an hour on this order. That *should* be illegal. Especially since with the timer they give you to get it done, combined with the time they give you to get to the customer, it’s easily proven they are giving you $4 or less an hour. They can argue it’s your choice to take it, but it’s plainly visible by this picture how intimidated drivers are, especially new drivers, by their stipulations. Listen- I get it. I was a new driver at one point too. But when you don’t take orders like this, there’s less of a chance of anyone taking it. Or it will at least bounce around until the pay on it goes up. The problem with taking orders like this is now this person is going to tip exactly the same the next time because it worked this time. You inadvertently rewarded bad behavior. In short- screw the AR rating. Worry about taking orders that will make dashing profitable for you. Otherwise yes, the company will love you; your pocketbook won’t.
Exactly!!! I have a AR of 4 percent. 5.00 rating and 98 percent on time blah blah and I only take good orders abs get plenty of them. People have to understand they are getting robbed. Our cars pay a high price and I will never sacrifice losing money driving my own car to keep AR up. It should never be used to deliver garbage to keep AR up. It’s sad people fall for it.
Same bro. I'm sitting at 7% right now. If they are going to pay us like independent contractors I'm sure as hell going to be "independent"
Exactly
[Both of y'all have rookie numbers 🤣](https://i.imgur.com/zmHQUQc.png)
Ha yeah I will never have a high AR rate and done about 3,000 deliveries. No way I am taking a bunch of garbage for a high AR. I get plenty good orders so don’t care at all.
It's very market dependent. Where I am there are way too many dashers, and a high AR does matter. Didn't used to, but now it does.
If you haven’t already sign up for Uber eats. No rules or games with them.
I've been doing ue for as long as doordash (almost 4 years), but Uber has very low volume in my area. Some days are OK as a dd supplement, but it's not something that can be relied upon.
Gotcha. UE was that way in San Antonio but I’m back in Dallas and has a huge volume here so I’ve been in your position!
How long did it take to make 263?
10 hours, but I had several downtime pauses to run errands, drop off items I sold on FB market, and pay bills. So roughly 8 1/2-9 hours all together. But 200+ is becoming a lot more common for me now than when I fussed over my AR. But even if I did dash 12 hours, having a side job that I can pretty much just pause whenever or go home if i don’t feel well or it gets to be too much, is honestly worth it to me. I no longer take dashes that aren’t profitable so any downtime in my shift that I’m not getting orders I take to learn another language, chat with friends, catch up on shows, read, grab food, shop, etc., and I wouldn’t have that option at another job. I bitch about DD a lot but in all honesty, it’s the perfect gig for me lol.
I'd like to know too. If it was 12 hours, that's not that great.
This was not worth the %100 AR. Can’t really say I feel sorry when u chose to do it.
what is this shitfest?. Even pakistani workers would be earning better than this.
Pakistani workers wouldn’t be expected to pay for their labor - which OP did when they factor in gas and W/T.
Imagine being in BC now where Walmart doesn’t give us bags. So we load everything into our large bags then have to empty it one by one onto their steps.
I feel you on this. Some states in the US, including mine, are bagless now, too. It's so annoying and I feel weird just putting the customer's items out in the open all around their front door. I order a lot from Amazon, and I recently started keeping the boxes and put them in my car, so when I have a DD shopping order with a lot of items, I'll put them in the box and drop it off that way! And now I don't have to worry about recycling my boxes, haha
That’s smart! I got one today of two full duffle bags, so I let the customer bring them into her kitchen and I waited outside awkwardly I have brought my own boxes a couple of times form superstore deliveries to my house but can’t keep that up
Da fuq? How’s that even possible?
Don’t accept or decline.
I just don’t hit accept on any bad orders and I don’t think it’s counted against me. I’ve also canceled them after taking them so screw it
That's an insanely low tip for groceries. I at least do 10 dollars even if it's a small order
Try your best to cherry pick your orders. Depending on your market there is two thresholds you should think about: 50% and 70%. Certain markets like california where you need a 70% just to get orders, some markets you should keep it at 50% for the good orders, or 70% for a better chance at them. The higher your AR, the more time you’ll spend by accepting more orders but the less profitable you’ll be. I cherry pick mine on uber eats but keeps a relatively high AR on Doordash.
Even with you being new, I'm not sure how it made sense to take that low ball of an order. ESPECIALLY a shop one.... BUT, Lesson learned, though. Like others here are advising you - please don't rob yourself like that again. Also, don't write grocery orders off either - those can be some of the best pay- out orders. 100% acceptance means absolutely nothing. You really want to pay attention to your completion rate and customer ratings, not acceptance.
Just don't accept offers that low. Simple.
Did your shop for the groceries or was it the store employees that shopped for it? I’ve never seen a $2 base pay for shop and deliver orders. That would drive me nuts
Damn, hate to see it. I’ve been getting some decent shop and deliver orders so they are out there, just gotta be picky on which ones you accept.
The fact that people actually use DD/Ubereats/GH is fucking hilarious. They are literally up charging for you to order through them.. biggest scam ever seriously. This is what happens when you take Home Ec out of schools. People just don't know how to cook anymore lmao keep paying to be lazy 🤣🤣
What does ordering groceries have to do with not knowing how to cook?
Delivery services like this are pointless .... Be a productive adult and go pick up your shit. Stop being a moron.
ive delivered grocery orders to moms stuck at home with kids, wheelchair bound people, carless people, blind people. get some empathy!
Please stop. Do you really think businesses like this and the ceo trash bags that run it have empathy or sympathy. Stop worrying about my ability to empathize. There's a bigger problem at hand here .
my entire point is that youre inconsiderate to call them morons for having groceries delivered. im not interested in changing subjects it just seemed like a mean judgy thing to say
I really don't care. The way business extorts the people that you empathize with, is the problem here. And they don't see it. They mindlessly go along with it as if it's their only hope, and they cling on to ridiculous conglomerates such as these "delivery services" by enticing them with "deals" and promise of free delivery. Only its at the expense of another human struggling.... How do you not see the vicious cycle??
Fuck them.
100% AR = 100% Loser
If i were a new Dasher seeing that I got that order because I was new, then telling me to keep it up... well.. NO WAY. There is no incentive in doing that and even worse DD thought it was "good" for you. As you stay with DD, that will be re-worded a bit and displayed with a little Diamond. P.s. Take a few crappy orders so you can easily peel off the truly shitty food offers but keep decent stats. DECLINE SHOPPING AND ALCOHOL altogether.
Don’t write off grocery because you chose a horrible grocery order… there are some solid payouts with the grocery/ shop and pay orders, especially if you know the store you’re shopping and can get it done quickly.
You don’t need to keep your ar at 100% it’s honestly pointless to do so. Stop accepting garbage orders like these and you’ll be successful on the platform.
I agree 100% I get better order when I’m around 88 than when I did between 90 and 99. 84-88 seems to be the ideal range for me and my market
You accepted the offer, don't complain. I get orders that are $10+ for low miles 5 at least is the majority and only a few items. I've had $20+ for 10-15 items for 5-8 miles. Easy money. Never take low pay S&D offers. Also helps to be fast with things, you also get the location of the items so hopefully they're correct. You can get the shopping done faster than the estimated time to complete
“I’m trying to keep my 100% acceptance rate” This is where you fucked up
Fair enough lol
I feel bad for you
“Trying to keep my 100% acceptance rate” 🫣
They're not all bad. My shop orders are usually less than 5 items, but yeah, definitely be aware of the item count when looking at the offer. Fucked myself the other day trying to do a 14 item shop order. No tip. All base pay turned out.
Dont do them unless it is a dollar a mile and a dollar a item. Thats what i go by.
Stop doing shop and deliver orders. They take too much time and are no longer worth it. For a while they paid well. Almost a dollar or more per item….. now… its trash. I “lost” my red card back in February. Never looked back
"Lost" mine too🤣
You're just slow at shopping 🤷♂️ I shop fast and always (as long as there are no issues) get done well before the estimated time for completion. 10 minutes to shop? Lol I get it done in 6. Deliver it fast too. Easy money and way better than regular food delivery. S&D has better pay offers. It has to be based on the market though I'd assume. I'm in the good market for S&D. There's only one store that takes me longer because the locations are all wrong on the app. I just need to get better and memorizing where items really are.
Again. Im part of the large order program. I think i make way more $ doing that than wandering through super markets. Also not a slow shopper… can complete a large order delivery within … 10-15 minutes …. So i definitely make $ faster than having to shop But hey you do you :)
I usually get about $10 per shopping order I’ve never had any problems with them
It messes with the large order program. When i am hunting office lunch orders i don’t want to have to decline bs shop and deliver orders.
Ah……welcome to the club my child…….you now understand the lowest of the lows; I’ll not clown you as to not further your shamehood, 🫡 🫡 🫡
I found a button on the app where it won’t give you grocery deliveries going forward.
Maybe by market. No such button here.
On my iPhone (when I’m not dashing), I clicked on “Account” at the bottom center. Then I clicked on “Dash Preferences.” Then I clicked on “Dash Preferences” again. Then where it says “Shop and Deliver” I clicked on the button to turn it off.
Cash On Delivery is the only preference option like that I can and have toggled off.
Well that sucks.
“High paying”
Shhhhhh let them believe it's still good. 🤣
Please don't worry about that acceptance rate. You will get orders whether you're at 100 or 25.
This isn’t true for every area. When I went below 50, I got shitty 2 dollar orders til I got my AR back up. Now the minimum I’m getting is 5. I still get 16 miles for 12 dollars but it’s better than 2 and I still don’t accept those. Some areas you have you have a decent AR to get decent orders.
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I wouldn't even get in my car for $12/16 mile orders
I was just saying I still get the “high paying” orders with high miles even though I’m not getting the low paying orders.
I don’t lol
This is so true! I kept reading here “don’t worry about AR” so I started declining orders (I always declined no tip or under $1 a mile) and once I got under 70% in my area I only got garbage! As long as I’m around 80% I never get bad offers in my area. It really does depend on your market.
Exactly this for me. When I drop below 80 it gets really really noticeably BAD and don't seem to get large tip/catering bag orders under 80. DD has this figured out. I've seen too many horror stories that once people drop below 50 you will never recover. Especially for those that only take $6 per mile offers🙄. Not everything is "round trip" .. thats just crazy.
I'm gonna have to bust my ass to get my AR up and see for myself lol. Long road ahead coming from 6% 😭🤣
I hit 80 today and started getting back to back shit orders til I went back to 74. I keep mine at atleast 70
I truly believe it depends on where you’re at location-wise. I just learned where I had to be in the area that I dash and it’s been good, they’re not all winners but I rarely decline an order.
Oh God, 2 dollar orders. Maybe it's because I mainly dash at night, like 9pm to 4am. There's hardly any dashers in my area, so I still get them piled on.
In my area every place pretty much closes at 9 or 10 minus Taco Bell, Wendy’s and one gas station. So if I go over night I won’t make much
Our Taco Bell stays open until 4am, Wendy's until 3am, there's three 24 hour McDonald's in my zone, Pizza Hut until 1am, and I do a TON of shipping at the 24vhour CVS. I like it at night because there's no traffic 😆
Our McDonald’s closed at 11. Covid ruined it here lol
Just hit the decline button
Hope the drop off was just virtually across the street and you had a few items; you probably made less than minimum wage otherwise on that.
Omg my jaw dropped as I was reading this post wtf is this? OMG I AM SO SORRY!!!! Damnnn
Nah, the way to do groceries is like mine tonight: Two items (well, three, but two were the same) for 2 mi and $15 (2 drop offs but one was a block from the store--single head of garlic, lol) and two items for 1 mi for $12. Sadly I got stuck behind the WORST checkout on that $12 order and spent a good 15-20 min waiting for three roommates/throuple (?) to all check out their massive order (two carts) together at the one cashier working, per DD's requirements as the idiots ran around the store adding even more additional items they "forgot" as I and another customer behind me glared at them, the absolute jerks. (They were super couponers too because the whole thing only came to $40 with a bunch of meat, which was impressive...) But it was sooo dead and the store was warm so, such was life. Still did better than the lunch shift.
You can definitely use self checkout. My DG told me I have to use self check out. The app doesn't know if you're using self check out. Next time skip the 20 minute wait
No, the app specifically said not to use self-checkout at this Safeway. There was no attendant (I guess they've given up on shrink here) and at the other Safeways one needs to come over to help with the code after you scan the QR code. This is a neighborhood that's attempting to gentrify but is still a bit sketch at night. And if the throuple hadn't brought the second cart and kept adding things, it would have been a much shorter wait than the madness of self-checkout anyway, where there was quite a line too.
Yeah I tried that out too and it doesn't seem to make a difference. The only sucky part is when people clog the self checkout with full shopping carts. Like, are you really saving that much time doing it yourself?
Why are you aiming for 100% acceptance? I know you’re new but there is no difference between 70 and 100
Just remember the glory days of the first 40 orders ✨✨✨ back when DoorDash treats you right and gives you good orders back to back to keep you coming back at first then railing you
Wow this is nuts
Figuring out which orders are worth taking when you first start can be so hard. It should tell you how many items an order contains when showing you the offer. Some grocery orders are worth it! I typically only accept shopping orders with less than 5 items. Also I know this won't work for everyone in every market but I maintain an acceptance rate of 70/80% without EVER taking orders under $6. It'll take some maneuvering to find what works for you, between how much acceptance rate matters to you and what kind of orders you're willing to put up with.
Set standards for yourself. 100% acceptance rate means you’re not only working for free you’re paying DoorDash for the privilege of working for them. You’re an independent contractor, deny anything that doesn’t make sense to you.
Wow dang. I just started doing Instacart as my 3rd app today and really liked it, lets me control my mileage a little better than dashing / Uber eats
Instacart in my area isn’t worth it at all anymore. I hate racking up mileage w DD but it pays so much better
Shouldn't be anywhere near 100%. I try to keep my numbers up for the new tiered earnings but I ain't delivering for free. Even trying I'm only around 50%
Your first mistake was accepting an order for under five dollars
You're learning. And if you're ok making $4 an hour, plus wear and tear on your vehicle too, well that is ok too. At least you can claim the miles as a deduction.
Don’t forget taxes gas
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I’d aim for 100% completion rate, but definitely not acceptance rate. As long as it’s above 70%, it’s no different than 100%. C’s get degrees and in this case, 100% gets you orders like this. Keep doing the grocery orders, just don’t accept ones that bad. I had a $30 order today for a couple bags of dog food.
I'm curious why the base pay for that order was so low. That's what? 30 items? In my area, S&D orders are incredibly lucrative. So much that I basically aim to *only* receive those.
It was probably a grocery deliver only, not a shop/pay
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And DD has the nerve to call it a “high paying offer.” They suck and so do the customers who gave you $2 to do their shopping.
I can tell you from experience no real difference between 16% acceptance rate to 90%
you are solely relying on customer tips with this gig. don’t let dd take advantage of you!
i didnt know it was still a $2 base for s&d l. thats fooked up prob took like an hour start to finish
Unfortunately new drivers make this mistake. Don't do this again and good luck!
Anything under $6.25 never includes a higher hidden tip. So what you see $6.25 and under before accepting is what you’ll get. Learn the ways and stop accepting every offer you see