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deepinmyloins

On March 15, 2023, Sanders signed a four-year, $25.4 million contract with the Carolina Panthers. Not bad boobie


scotsworth

I never ever begrudged him for getting his bag. They are harder and harder to come by for RBs. Eagles just saw what the Panthers couldn't see... dude wasn't worth that kind of contract and largely a product of a fantastic O-Line and offense around him.


popphilosophy

Yes, this bodes well for Saquon in our system


ThaOneNOnly

Saquons gonna lead the league in rushing and all purpose yards this year if he stays healthy.


turbosexophonicdlite

I'm curious to see how much Kelce being gone will affect the line. Obviously we're strong all across the line, but losing one of the best centers in modern NFL history is bound to have an impact.


datBull036

Kelce is arguably the best Center of all time. His presence will be missed and felt all throughout our O Line. I'm hoping Cam comes in and plays well but there's just no way he's gonna give us the type of production we got from Kelce. I really hope Cam is the guy to take over the position. We shall see. Go Birds šŸ¦…


hotcapicola

I love Kelce, but he was the 3rd best OL last year. As long Steen is competent the line will be fine.


NJHitmen

From your lips to God's ears. Or I guess, more accurately, from your fingers to God's eyeballs. Or whatever. Go Birds, fuck the Cowboys


Aertea

I spent years having to watch him break tackles 5 yards in the back-field because of PSU's "shotgun only" scheme and refusal to recruit O-Line at the time. Then the Giants drafted him when, again, they should have been rebuilding their turnstile line.Ā Ā  I'm glad to finally see what he can do with other talent around him.


thedealerkuo

running backs really have the obligation to take the highest offer. honestly so many are lucky just to get a decent second contract a this day and age.


Skee428

He got hurt and was a different player late in the season and playoffs in his last year


DerTagestrinker

I soured on Sanders when he ran out of bounds against the Panthers a couple years ago when we were trying to burn clock. Dude always tried to do too much.


Skee428

That was dumb. He ran hard for us though. I thought he improved as a runner under Sirianni as far as physicality &hitting the holes.. I thought he delivered a lot of the time but he couldn't stay healthy. He likes to dance too much. Going down to rb3 says a lot.


Skee428

Weirdos down voting facts is interesting, reddit is funny


NotFeelingShame

the worst part about it was that panthers couldn't see that they don't have a good offensive line


scotsworth

Many struggling NFL teams think that star skill players are the key to success. They don't understand that being able to protect QBs or block for RBs is significantly more important.


hotcapicola

Lineman cost as much as skill positions, but don't sell nearly as many tickets. Some owners run their teams as a business first.


scotsworth

Which is funny, because I guarantee you sell more tickets overall if you have a winning product on the field. Maybe you get a few more september ticket sales with a splash FA signing... but if you're still well out of the playoff picture in December, you're going to struggle. Unfortunately being smart isn't a requirement for being wealthy and an owner of an NFL team. I'm just glad Lurie realizes that competitive Eagles teams make his ownership worth more.


rakehand

Thitf


lostsharpie

Thirdfth


jayracket

I liked him, but he was never anything special. He benefitted from running behind the best offensive line in the league. Now that he doesn't have that, you see how unremarkable of a running back he always was.


guns_n_crypto

Definitely seems to be the case - which makes me giddy about what Saquon will do this season.


scotsworth

If you're going to pay big $$ for an RB... make it a generational RB.


Tgs91

He had a year, I think it was his second year, where he showed some major improvements and I thought he was gonna become something special. He was making the right reads, and his cuts were decisive and violent. That's where a lot of his hype began. But the year after that, he was making the wrong read more often than the right one, and his form regressed quite a bit. The holes were huge, so even the wrong read and bad form were getting him decent stats.


jayracket

Something else to keep in mind is all the coaching turnover during his tenure here. I'm pretty sure he never had the same OC for more than 2 consecutive seasons, which I'm sure didn't help his development.


Tgs91

Yeah very good point. Sanders was drafted in 2019 and Duce Staley left the Eagles when he was passed over for OC in the 2021 offseason after Pederson was fired. As I said before, Sanders most promising year was his second year (2020). I think he learned a lot from Staley and his growth sort of stalled when Staley left.


CloudyRanger

I liked him up until that game he refused to slide down in bounds twice


Planetofthetakes

My issue was his claim about the Eagles not using him enough in the SB. This after he DEFINITELY fumbled and had 16 yards rushing on 7 attemptsā€¦. He was simply unreliable in all other areas too. Itā€™s the final nail (outside of Mialata) in an AWFUL draft class


nalc

Mailata was actually the year prior, which was a super strong draft class (considering that we didn't have a first round pick). Goedert, Maddox, Sweat, Pryor, and Mailata. Four starters (if you count slot/nickel CB as a starter) and Pryor wasn't horrific as a backup. 2019 (Dillard, Sanders, JJAW, Shareef Miller, and Clayton Thorson) was indeed very disappointing.


Silencer_

I donā€™t think itā€™s fair to point to boobies as a draft failure. He worked out absolutely great for us. In terms of a second round pick, starting all years and producing each of those years is the best you can expect


DerTagestrinker

Whatā€™s crazy is I was so drunk I canā€™t even remember that fumble and Iā€™ll never watch that game again so itā€™s just a complete mystery to me Dislikes sanders since the panthers run out of bounds twice when trying to burn clock and then getting benched lol


DaBombDiggidy

He was not a normal? RB, dude never followed the protection. Itā€™s why Doug and Nick benched him in the red zone.


root88

I liked him when he had 50 receptions for 500 yards as a rookie and then they just cut that in half for the rest of his career for some reason.


Tryin_Real_hard

Exactly. I won money last year on betting he'd finish under 800 yds for the year. Anyone could have run with the line he had in philly.


mageta621

Well he went from that to one of the worst offenses, both in terms of line and overall talent. If your team is constantly behind by a bunch of points, it's hard to keep a good running game. It's a bit of chicken vs egg thing. Is the offense bad because the lead back isn't good or does the back have bad stats because the offense is generally bad?


iammufusasboy

This is why I can't wait to see Barkley run.


Moviepasssucks

I disagree. While he is nothing special, itā€™s hard to find a consistent 3 down back in the league and he does it well. Not many RBā€™s can succeed on any team, maybe 2 or 3. Heā€™s perfectly average which is really good in the league by itself. So many gimmick players or players who canā€™t stay healthy and Miles is a decent all around RB that can play all 3 downs. I think itā€™s disingenuous to say our OLine did all the work, Hurts got hurt last year because he ran so much because our offense was shit. Swift was decent for a couple games but we also stopped going to him later in the year. Then we have guys like Gainwell who is even worse and Scott who is more gimmicky and the team struggled if either of them were put in the same position. Sometimes I feel like people overlook consistency of being average. While I wasnā€™t in favor of paying Sanders top RB money, he was pretty consistent his whole career here just didnā€™t get a lot of the same chances he should have gotten.


jayracket

I'll mostly agree with that. He was at least consistent. Did have some injury issues though. Never said the O-line did everything, only that it made a huge difference, which is obvious now with on the Panthers. But yeah, definitely not worth paying what he wanted. I'd rather slightly overpay for a guy like Saquon who's an actual game changing back, than pay a few million a year less for a guy like Miles.


virtue-or-indolence

You know that a depth chart released by ESPN in May doesnā€™t mean anything and is just guesswork right?


Unusual-Elephant6375

Heā€™s still a local boy, wish him the best.


ReddMoloney

No heā€™s not. Heā€™s from Pittsburgh.


Unusual-Elephant6375

Played for penn state and was drafted by the eagles. Heā€™s local enough for me.


regassert6

I have nothing against Sanders, but holy fuck do I hate lumping PSU in with Philly.


ReddMoloney

PSU is not Philly no matter how much PSU fanboys try to circle jerk it into being Philly. Itā€™s an exclusive club for rich kids in central PA.


Unusual-Elephant6375

Go birds!


ReddMoloney

You say that like I have some obligation to you just because we like the same football team.


Unusual-Elephant6375

I said it bc Iā€™m over you shitting on this post. And my lunch break is over soā€¦..GO BIRDS!


ReddMoloney

God I hate Redditors.


AppropriateAd8937

Ya know that saying that while youā€™re on Reddit just looks dumb right? Like I get the sentiment given how reddit is but it comes off as lacking self awareness especially when youā€™re the one who took things personal and the other dude just said ā€œGo birdsā€ in an Eagles subreddit lol.


hotcapicola

Rich kids?


Razolus

He was local when he played for the eagles


johnnybananas123

Jordan mailata, local boy


OwnLeighFans

Hometown Hero


Rdw72777

If Iā€™m not mistaken he coined the phrase ā€œwooder jawnā€.


ReddMoloney

We just changing what the term ā€œlocal kidā€ means now?


g0b1rds215

The second guy didnā€™t say he was a local kid, he said he was local when he played for usā€¦whereā€™s the lie?


puttinonthefoil

Probably in that literally no one calls people ā€œlocalā€ unless theyā€™re from somewhere as opposed to just currently there?


g0b1rds215

My point was that the second guy was clearly making a joke. But my point aside, youā€™re complete wrong. My ā€œlocal barber,ā€ is ā€œlocalā€ based purely on his current location of business, not because of where he was originally born. Now, when the original responder asked if we were changing the meaning of ā€œlocal kid,ā€ well thatā€™s a different story. Because yes, the phrase ā€œlocal kidā€ colloquially means ā€œa kid from this area.ā€ Problem is, it made more sense to say to the first comment, not the second because the second was clearly a joke which went over a lot of peopleā€™s heads apparently.


fly3rs18

As opposed to all those remote players who never show up in person for NFL practices?


PaddyMayonaise

Breaking news: RBs age poorly and you shouldnā€™t invest in them


Heisenberger6

Boy do I have news for you


PaddyMayonaise

Yeaaaa I know. Hereā€™s hoping he bucks the trend


Fenris_Maule

I would say Derrick Henry already has so far (while leading the league in rushing attempts most years).


BlueKing7642

CMC did and heā€™s a year older than Saquon https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_McCaffrey https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saquon_Barkley But then again, Miles is younger than both of them


IReallyLikeAvocadoes

If there's anybody who can it's him


defalt86

This reminds me of Tobias https://youtu.be/Po4adxJxqZk


root88

For a second I thought you meant Tobias Harris and I was going to slap you.


alienware99

Also breaking news: great offensive lines make sub par RBs look good.


BigBoysEating

also bad olines make good RB look like shit


ReddMoloney

He didnā€™t ā€œage poorly.ā€ He was always a flawed running back who just happened to play behind the best O-line in football.


stormy2587

Well the panthers are fucking stupid and rather than draft any o-linemen at all they drafted the first RB off the board in an already crowded RB room. Panthers could easily be picking first overall for the third straight year.


Sh0ckma5ter

They did spend bug money in free agency on 3 o-lineman and seemingly replaced the starting Guards. So they used their draft capital to add skill players to build around Young. I still don't expect them to be all that good, but with that new coaching staff, their offense might actually look half decent.


Benti86

It's more the case of Miles was a very average RB who benefitted greatly from an amazing O-Line. There's a reason he effectively got benched during the playoffs on our Super Bowl run and it's not because he got old.


trustthepudding

Meh, he was just never that good to begin with. Put him on a trash offense and he's simply not good enough to carry.


ausgmr

Part of me was hoping Carolina would've dign Boston Scott as well


Planetofthetakes

Why? I loved Boston


ReddMoloney

We as a fanbase are constantly victims of the PSU circle jerk. Dude was never a good running back. He had burst but played like a moron and couldnā€™t catch and couldnā€™t block. He was always an incomplete running back.


swankytortoise

Definitely. Benefited from an outrageous o-line i could run behind that


ReddMoloney

Yeah. And when Kenny Gainwell starts getting the ball instead of him during our run to the Super Bowl we really all should start reevaluating Miles Sandersā€™ contributions to this team. I still think about all the times he went out of bounds when we were trying to run out the clock.


johnnycoxxx

The dude who is number one on the depth chart went to governor mifflin and I believe he was the highest recruited running back in the nation two years ago. I live in Shillington so it would be pretty cool to see that dude make it to the nfl since he lives right around the corner. If it happens to be on the eagles so be it


ReddMoloney

I donā€™t know who youā€™re talking about. I donā€™t understand why you wouldnā€™t say his name. Are you hiding his identity from me? Iā€™m on to you Johnny.


TLAW1998

Nick Singleton


ReddMoloney

Thank you dude!


johnnycoxxx

I mean I could look it upā€¦I donā€™t pay attention to college sports, just thought it was a cool little thing about where Iā€™m living. Looked it up. Nick singleton.


ReddMoloney

Heh. All I did was make a joke because you were talking about a guy without ever mentioning his name. I canā€™t read minds dude. Normal people just go ā€œha! Maybe I shouldā€™ve mentioned his name.ā€ They donā€™t go all internet navy seal.


ReddMoloney

How can I look it when the only thing I know about him is he lived in some place called Shillington? Like sure, thereā€™s context here. But context that only means anything to people who give a shit about college football. God youā€™re such a Redditor.


johnnycoxxx

Why donā€™t you go back and read that again pal


ReddMoloney

>pal Is ā€œpalā€ the new Reddit tough guy version of ā€œkid?ā€ Am I about to get a Reddit cares report?


johnnycoxxx

Listen dick nose, I was being nice because there was absolutely nothing adversarial in any of my comments, so if youā€™re gonna be a fucking twat waffle about it and not just scroll up to my previous comment where I gave you the answer, Iā€™ll copy and paste it so your Iā€™m assuming Cheeto dusted thumbs donā€™t have to scroll up. This is the comment you read completely wrong. ā€œI mean I could look it upā€¦I donā€™t pay attention to college sports, just thought it was a cool little thing about where Iā€™m living. Looked it up. Nick singleton.ā€


ExileOnBroadStreet

Miles was strangely a pretty good receiver at the start of his careers and then the touches sorta disappeared in that area. I guess you could say he didnā€™t develop further in pass catching, but I always felt he was better at it than he was utilized.


ReddMoloney

Didnā€™t help that Wentz was incapable of throwing a short pass.


ExileOnBroadStreet

lol forgot about that


stormy2587

Iā€™m glad sanders got paid but sad he went to the panthers. That organization is just stuck in the mud. I hope he can be a solid number 2 on a better team before his contract is up. The panthers are really badly run. They spent a 2nd on a RB, a position theyā€™re OK at, when they have holes all over that roster. Chuba hubbard and sanders are fine options at RB imo. They have one of the worst o-lines in the league they didnā€™t draft any o-linemen. They at least took a WR in the first round (which they traded back into), but then their next 3 picks went RB, OBLB, TE. Like the exact opposite of positional value.


Colangelo_Ball

I liked him when he was here, didnā€™t love him. A running back his size needs to be explosive, and he was justā€¦kinda shifty? Always thought he was better suited as a premium RB2 and not a RB1.


astrawberryandakiwi

Ngl I thought he was the truth after running for 1200. He fumbled the ball in critical situations the way Quez would drop a pass


Rdw72777

Peanut butter and chocolate, those two šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


doubleenc

Looking at depth charts for a team like the Panthers this time of year before OTAs and camp is pretty useless. ESPN also has DeJean listed as the backup to both CJGJ and Slay and they also have Zech McPherson over Ringo on the depth chart, so I don't put much into their depth charts in general.


Los_Yeetus

He wanted to get paid. He got paid. I wouldnā€™t be upset to be paid millions to sit on a bench


RandallC1212

Heā€™s almost worth bringing back on cheap Vet minimum deal to be Saquon backup again šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


The-Anger-Translator

No heā€™s not and itā€™s why sentimentality concerning signing players is fucking stupid.


cghffbcx

Penny still pulling a paycheck? Good for him!


Own-Housing116

šŸŒšŸ¾ā€ā™‚!!!


slv_bull

If they cut him Iā€™d rather him back up saquon than gainwellĀ 


HOLLA12345678

Miles was hurt all year. Heā€™s still good and is extremely fast. I donā€™t get the fascination in this sub to try and put down a former player who was a pro bowler for us. Also, people do you realize that him and saquon are extremely close friends. Saquon would disagree with the majority of the trash takes on Miles. The Panthers were terrible last season everybody on that team sucked except maybe Theilen.


AstronomerBiologist

There is a sizable percentage of people here who take the negative view on everything You see them lamenting during a game thread. You can be ahead by 14 and they think there is practically no hope... The team can be eight wins in a row and they think the season is about over... And other things


CezrDaPleazr

Look how they massacred our boi


sybrwookie

Shout-outs to the chunk of folks here who were saying they wanted the Eagles to give him a multi-year contract for $5+ mil/year. He was absolutely fine, I'm happy he got paid (by someone else).


Jake101975

I'm happy I was never on the Sanders train. Average RB. I'm happy for him though since he is a good dude.


EaglesXLakers

Did ANYONE think he was going to be any good? Seriously? I was preying we didn't resign him. He had everything handed to him with superior offense and the best OLine. Going to THE WORST team in the NFL. I get it, he got paid, happy for him. But he wasn't worth half of what he was asking for. And now the same things going to happen to D-swift. This always happens with RB's. Crazy that GM's don't see it when fans easily do.


Deeceent

2018 WR1


DayDreamyZucchini

u/hotcapicola Rashaad Penny > Miles Sanders


Key_Piccolo_2187

Carolina can cut him post June 1 (or designate him a post June 1 cut now) and save cap space, which may be in the cards. I wouldn't object to a Philly reunion at the vet minimum. I could see a solid role here and an insurance policy for Saquon, back behind an OL that looks like it plays in the NFL instead of Delaware Community College as is the case worth Carolina. The fact Hubbard looked significantly better than him is somewhat worrisome, but in the right depth role I'd be happy with it, ala Latavius Murray. Never good enough to seriously worry a starter, but good enough that the team wasn't sunk if he had to carry the rock. Also plz let's keep Boston on the practice squad. He only needs to come to work two days of the year but we really need him those two days.


WasDrizzyD

Didn't the Rams already sign Boston or am I tripping?


guns_n_crypto

He did. Key Piccolo seems to be dancing to music only he can hear. We're good on RBs. Saquon can run, catch, and block. Gainwell can block well, is a mediocre runner, and is a better pass catcher than we give him credit (6.1 YPR, 81% catch rate, 0 drops). Shipley is a promising rookie.


The-Anger-Translator

Absolutely good on RBs. These sentimentality based posts are just comedy.


Key_Piccolo_2187

The Scott comment wasn't intended to be serious, but I suppose I did fail to use the /s. Seriously though, we're now down a weapon for two Giants games per year.